[Baypiggies] (Apr) Agenda?, Last call for IDE demonstrators + (May) Survey results, draw + ?

Marilyn Davis marilyn at deliberate.com
Mon Apr 10 16:19:22 CEST 2006

What a busy Sunday!

On Sun, 9 Apr 2006, Stephen McInerney wrote:

> Several issues/comments to clarify for the April and May agendas:
> (Apr 13, Ironport)
> ["Sprint and pair/extreme programming discussion"]
> - Aahz, are you moderating this, or if not who is? Can you please list 
> separate speaker/ moderator names for each agenda item, to avoid a repeat of 
> March's very confused meeting.
> If a topic has no owner, it ain't gonna happen...
> ["We will also have a discussion about BayPIGgies, its leadership, and 
> direction for the future."]
> - anyone tagged to lead this? Can we please at least take the very divisive 
> name issue OFF the table until the survey results come back in May, if not 
> later?
> ["IDEs for Python"] (but *not GUIs* - Aahz - I only mentioned IDEs but not 
> GUIs, can you delete GUIs?)
> * I threw out the topic of IDEs but to avoid any possible confusion, I am 
> *not* organizing it.
> I simply encouraged other people to volunteer - this would make a great 
> new-member speaking opportunity. So far we have only 1/2(?) confirmed 
> volunteers, unless I missed that on the list - can you please identify each 
> speaker and IDE:
> - JJ Behrens/ Vim + ctags
> - Marilyn Davis/ (did you volunteer or just express interest?)

Here's what I said:

>> I can do plain ole emacs, which I love.
>> But, I have to leave by 8:30 and I'd love to see some other
>> presentations.  I'm happy to give mine first and at the advertised
>> start time, even if I'm the only person there.
>> Marilyn Davis

The offer stands.

> - will anyone volunteer to cover IDLE or Scite, Wing, JEdit, Boa 
> Constructor, Komodo, ASPN,  PyDev(Eclipse), plain old emacs etc.? People - 
> please coordinate with Aahz and each other, not with me.
> - I thought we agreed IDEs would get to go first, before the sprint 
> discussion?
> - each presenter would need a fully charged laptop which can project VGA
> (JJ - does Ironport you have a multiplexer (Belkin?) to allow one person to 
> speak while the
> next person connects/disconnects/fiddles with their video card/reboots?)
> - Best to arrive early, test the projector, and arrange speaking order among 
> yourselves.
> You might find the Jonathan Ellis IDE reviews I posted a good basis for 
> feature comparison across IDEs.
> (May 11, Google)
> I would like to present the 2006 survey results for the first 45 minutes (If 
> we have no other speakers, I could use the whole 90 minutes up on this, and 
> I could do extra slides, so please speak up now if you also want to present 
> separately at May?).
> - results, some graphs, top-n topic lists, conclusions and interactive 
> discussion
> - draw for prizes from our goodie box (books, tshirts, conference swag, 
> other items)
> (I may not have a laptop so if someone can commit to lend me theirs to 
> present from?)

Yes.  You may borrow mine.  I'm sure I'm the most convenient since we
are neighbors.  


I just took the survey and it's a very pleasant and interesting
experience.  Now, I want to hear about all those subjects!

Here's the url again, for anyone's convenience:


I think you're right, that the April meeting hasn't jelled enough to
go forward.  Maybe the group needs a breather.

And, given that we'll have survey results for the May meeting, that
would be the time to give the organization a re-think.

I'll try to get the name change poll up in the next few days: just "Do
you want to change the name?", yes/no/abstain.  I think we've talked
about it plenty.

Thanks again for all your hard work and good thoughts, Stephen.


> I know Dennis Reinhardt also offered to speak on ctypes.
> Best,
> Stephen
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