[Baypiggies] Dec. 14 Meeting "Programming Productivity: WhatReally Matters?"

Max Slimmer max at theslimmers.net
Thu Dec 14 20:04:23 CET 2006

Couldn't help myself, just had to comment.  The problem I see with doing the
socialization first and then moving into all be it short presentation, is
that it will require bringing any fun conversations to an abrupt end, and
probably make it difficult to re-capture the moment.  Obviously a difficult
problem, but I would think that a short (timed) presentation first and then
open the rest of the evening up for socializing and snaks etc.


From: baypiggies-bounces at python.org [mailto:baypiggies-bounces at python.org]
On Behalf Of Tony Cappellini
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 9:44 AM
To: Carl J. Van Arsdall
Cc: Python; Dennis Reinhardt
Subject: Re: [Baypiggies] Dec. 14 Meeting "Programming Productivity:
WhatReally Matters?"

>>Just my 2cents.
I see your 2, and raise you 2.
Given that it's the holiday season, I like the idea of a social session too.

On 12/14/06, Carl J. Van Arsdall <cvanarsdall at mvista.com> wrote: 

I think Anna has several good points.  Being that this meeting was toted
originally as a "meet n greet"  I think that it would be most fair to
maintain part of the schedule for that purpose and fit the presentation 
around that, as it propositioned last minute.

I think an informal meet and greet (and not dinner or lobby time) is
important and should be done earlier in this meeting while people are
still fresh and interested in speaking to one another.  After meetings 
is not normally good for social time, presentations make people tired
and not as outgoing (at least in my experience).

Just my 2cents.

Anna Ravenscroft wrote:
> Okay - let me describe what I mean by "socializing". 
> To me, socializing is not:
> "mapping" (mapping is a formal structure grouping up people and the
> grouping process seems to take forever.)
> dinner (getting stuck next to someone I've never met and have nothing 
> in common with and having to make smalltalk with them for the next
> hour is my idea of hell.)
> extending the Q&A session after a presentation - leaving those of us
> who have heard enough stuck with the choice of being *rude* or waiting 
> patiently in hopes that eventually we can stand up and go talk to
> someone we have been wanting to talk with - which usually happens
> about 5 minutes before we're kicked out of the room...
> Milling around in the lobby of google waiting to fill out a badge and
> be shepherded up to a room just in time for the presentation to start.
> Not everyone is there, and we're usually rather distracted. 
> Socializing - what I'm asking for - is a chance to talk to people, _by
> choice_ -- not by enforced proximity or structured format -- including
> the chance to walk around and talk to more than one person. Having 
> snacks and beverages is nice.
> I would like a chance to socialize.
> Cordially,
> Anna
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