[Baypiggies] Is plone fo me?
Shannon -jj Behrens
jjinux at gmail.com
Mon Sep 11 19:22:19 CEST 2006
On 9/8/06, Ken Seehart <ken at seehart.com> wrote:
> I am fairly experienced with Zope. I have heard people complain that
> Zope is monolithic to the point of being annoying. My experience is
> that Zope really isn't all that bad. But from what I've seen so far of
> Plone, by skimming the documentation and attempting to play with it, I
> am starting to get the impression that Plone really is as monolithic as
> I originally thought Zope would be. I'm hoping to hear otherwise.
> What I want to do:
> 1. Get complete control of the main look and feel. I have implemented a
> Zope page template exactly as I want it. The template is a finely tuned
> table with perfectly aligned graphics. Plone seems to want to let me
> plug in bits and pieces to customize aspect of the look, but I need to
> actually control the arrangement of the entire page. In fact, I don't
> think the final result will look much like a Plone page at all.
> 2. Allow users to add content by editing plain text. The user should be
> able to select whether the page is a calendar event, a main menu page,
> etc, and automatically add a link to the appropriate list. (this item
> is why I would look at Plone at all). I will need to implement my own
> page templates with custom scripting to display certain lists.
> 3. I want to implement my own custom regular expression substitutions on
> the structured text content.
> Is Plone too shrink-wrapped for what I need? Should I just stick with
> Zope and implement my own variation on existing structured text tools?
> Here's a link to my prototype: http://www.seehart.com/aikidosantacruz.org
> If you take a look at that link, you will notice that it will use a
> rather small portion of the features available in Plone. What I think
> is annoying about Plone is that it looks like I will spend a bunch of
> time removing unused features from the main page! The default Plone
> page is really fancy, but I would much prefer to start with an empty
> page, and that add what I need. Note that the bottom portion of the
> menu will not be visible to non-authenticated users, who will be in the
> majority. I have no use for things like user customizable skins since
> only a few people will have accounts, and the target audience will be
> anonymous read-only users.
> Plone looks like it has more than enough features for me. I just want
> to start with a clean empty page, not the ridiculously excessive swiss
> army knife of the standard default page.
My opinion is *not biased.* I have my own Web framework (Aquarium),
but I also know Django, Zope, and Plone. I agree that Plone is a good
fit for your needs. I used Plone to build my church's Web site
<http://myallsaints.org>. I agree with pretty much everything Steve
said. I do think you should take the time to read the book.
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