[Baypiggies] [vote] name change

Shannon -jj Behrens jjinux at gmail.com
Thu Feb 1 23:39:32 CET 2007

By the way, on the subject of "bp-announce at python.org", I'm going to
pull that discussion into a new thread now that this poll has

Best Regards,

On 2/1/07, Shannon -jj Behrens <jjinux at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 1/30/07, Shannon -jj Behrens <jjinux at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Ok, let's address the mother of all arguments--the name change ;)
> >
> > Instructions:
> > To change the name of this mailing list, vote +1 and propose an alternate.
> > To keep the existing name, vote -1.
> >
> > Certain of our readers object to the term "baypiggies" due to the
> > negative connotation.  Clearly, a better term might have been
> > "baysmarties", but I digress ;)
> >
> > As we come to conclusion about the direction of this mailing list, it
> > makes sense to bite the bullet and vote on whether to keep the name
> > baypiggies.  As a historical note (Aahz can correct me), baypiggies
> > stands for "Bay Area Python Interest Group", which makes sense.
> >
> > If we change the name baypiggies, we may (arguably) gain a name with a
> > better connotation, but we risk irritating a lot of people who will
> > have to update their mail filters and learn a new email address to
> > send mail to.  Worst of all, there may be instances of this email
> > address in the wild, and I'm not sure if I can set it up as an alias
> > if we decide to go with a new name.
> >
> > Because of the severe drawbacks of this change, I'd like to be
> > conservative and propose that we only change the name if we have 10 or
> > more +1s and no more than half as many -1s.  I think requiring a two
> > to one vote is fair given the advantages vs. the disadvantages of
> > making this change.
> Ok, thank you all for responding.  Thank you too for bearing with the
> volume of email.  Here are the results:
>   Yes:
>     marilyn at deliberate.com
>     carroll at tjc.com
>     DennisR at dair.com (but only for the announce list)
>   No:
>     aahz at pythoncraft.com
>     bdbaddog at gmail.com
>     cvanarsdall at mvista.com
>     dbs at abaca.com
>     DennisR at dair.com
>     doug.durham at yahoo.com
>     ds-bp at sidorof.com
>     eric at ericwalstad.com
>     jjhartley at att.net
>     kenobi at gmail.com
>     krishna2 at krishna2.com
>     mac at wireless.com
>     mrbmahoney at gmail.com
>     richardk at adax.com
>     rstephe at sun.science.wayne.edu
>     spmcinerney at hotmail.com
>     tungwaiyip at yahoo.com
>     webmaven at cox.net
>     wescpy at gmail.com
>     ylchobe at gmail.com
> I think that constitutes clear consensus.  We will not be changing our
> name.  As moderator of this mailing list, I'd like to close this
> discussion for at least two years, which I feel is reasonable and
> moderate.  However, I suspect that in the period of just two years,
> it's unlikely that the consensus will have changed much.
> Ok, now that we're done with that, let's get back to talking about Python!
> Best Regards,
> -jj
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