[Baypiggies] The new PyoP List
marilyn at deliberate.com
Tue Feb 27 20:33:02 CET 2007
Hello Python Fans,
I'm sorry I've been so sluggish about getting the new list going.
I've been so swamped with Python classes and preparation for Python
classes that I haven't been able to give this the thought it deserves
The Python training business has really picked up the last few months!
I had to give up teaching C.
Here's my draft of the material for the new list. If anyone can think
of anything I forgot to address, or has any suggestions, please let me
know. Once this is published, it'll take a 2/3 majority vote to
change anything. I'm hoping to have all bases covered so that admin issues will be minimized.
This list is intended to be technical and social support for Python
enthusiasts who meet face-to-face at the monthly Python meetings at
Google in Mountain View, CA.
Everyone anywhere is welcome to join and participate. But, in the
event of a vote, only members who have actually attended a live
meeting in the last 3 months, or 2 live meetings in the last year, may
vote, or participate in controversial discussion about administrative
For the most part, the "vouch-for" system will be used to determine if
a person has voting privileges. If the current meeting facilitator,
or this list's administrator, or any well-known regular attender can
vouch for your attendance, you get voting privileges; if the current
meeting facilitator, or this list's administrator, or any well-known
regular attender can vouch for someone who can vouch for you, you get
voting privileges. If you wish to keep a low profile at meetings, but
still would like voting privileges, please keep the badges given to
you by Google and be prepared to snail mail them to the current list
administrator, if a vote happens.
Administrative decisions will be made democratically by the members.
The list administrator's role is to facilitate and implement the will
of the group.
The exception is a case in which an emergency decision is required to
immediately revoke an email address's right to post to the list for
violating the list's rules, given in "RULES" below. If such a
decision and action is taken, it can be reversed by majority vote as
described below in "VOTING".
The list administrator has a 2 year term, if a new volunteer is
willing to take on the job. If there are more than one willing
volunteer, an election will be held to decide which candidate will be
the new list administrator.
An election will be held as follows:
1. Two months before the current term ends:
The current list administrator will call for volunteers to be
candidates for the next term. In order to qualify for candidacy,
a volunteer must:
1. have voting privileges on the list.
2. be a list member for at least 1 year.
3. have his candidacy seconded by at least one voting member.
2. One month before the current term ends:
The election will be held by public or private vote, as is
deemed practical by the current administrator. Qualified
voting members will vote range(-5, 6) for each candidate.
The candidate with the most positive votes wins. In case of a
tie, the candidate with the most positive votes, and fewest
negative votes wins. If there is still a tie, the candidate
with the most positive vote, least negative votes and highest
average votes wins. If there is still a tie, the candidates
with the most positive votes, least negative votes, highest
average votes will have their names placed in a hat and the
winner will be picked out of the hat at the next face-to-face
Marilyn Davis is the first list administrator. Her term expires June
1. The name of the list/group is "Python on the Peninsula".
2. Discussion about these rules are welcome but will be clearly
marked with "ADMIN" in the subject line.
3. No flaming. Make your point without attacking the person.
4. If you wish to send private email to a list member, and you want
that mail to remain private, you must first write the list member to
ask permission to engage in a private conversation and receive a
message back encouraging a private conversation.
5. Job ads must be clearly marked with "JOB" in the subject line.
6. Only first-party job ads are allowed; no "head-hunters".
7. Ads for jobs outside the SF Bay Area are not allowed, unless the
prospective employer is offering to pay moving expenses.
To change a list rule, given above:
1. A change is proposed by one member with voting privileges. See
MEMBERSHIP, above, for the definition of a "member with voting
2. The change is seconded by a different member with voting
3. There is a 2 week period for discussion before a poll is taken.
4. Voting is +1 to vote for the proposal
0 to abstain
-1 to reject the proposal
5. The poll is open for 1 month.
6. A 2/3 positive/negative vote is required to change a rule.
To reverse an emergency decision made by the list administrator
(see ADMINISTRATION above):
1. The reversal is proposed by one member with voting privileges.
2. The reversal is seconded by a different member with voting
3. There is a 24 hour period for discussion before a poll is taken.
4. Voting is +1 to vote for the reversal
0 to abstain
-1 to reject the reversal
5. The poll is open for 1 week except in the special case explained
in # 7, below.
6. 51% positive/negative vote is required to reverse an emergency
7. If there is a 2/3 positive/negative vote, and at least 20 voters,
at any time before the 1 week of voting expires, the emergency
decision will be reversed.
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