[Baypiggies] Fwd: Request to mailing list Baypiggies rejected

[Marilyn Davis]

----- On Wednesday, January 10, 2007 whitaker at google.com wrote:

> On 1/10/07, Aahz  wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2007, Russell Whitaker wrote:
>> >
>> > So, the listowner has made the decision that cross-posting to other
>> > lists is not permitted then?
>> >
>> > Look, I'm trying to get something going that involves both the
>> > capabilities security community and the Python community.  This is
>> > related to a specific attempt to assist both.  This rejection seems a
>> > bit hidebound and unnecessary to me.
>>
>> The problem -- as I already said -- is that cross-posting between mailing
>> lists means that the people who reply to your messages will get caught by
>> the requirement to be a list subscriber in order for their messages to be
>> seen.  (This requirement courtesy of spam.) 

That's the problem of the participants, not the moderator.

 It just doesn't work unless
>> a large proportion of people are already on both mailing lists -- and
>> even then it can be irritating as people get multiple copies of messages.
>>
>> There are two reasonably good ways to handle this:
>>
>> * If the topic is particularly relevant to one mailing list, send an
>> invitation to the other mailing list(s) inviting them to subscribe
>>
> 
> This is unnecessary and cumbersome.
> 
>> * If the topic doesn't have a good home, create a new mailing list and
>> invite everyone to join
> 
> In this case, also unnecessary and cumbersome.
> 
> OK, if this is the case, then I'm going to scale back my efforts on the part
> of BayPIGgies, and put my efforts elsewhere with less overhead.  Thanks
> for validating my impressions.

Aahz has no right to do this to us.  Is there any way we can get the power away from him?  From previous exchanges, he will not give up ownership of our list willingly, apparently.  JJ is willing to be our list-owner.

If we cannot get the ownership of the mailing list away from Aahz, we need to start a new group.

Marilyn

p.s.  I'm away and only checking email sporatically.
> 
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