[Baypiggies] Fwd: Request to mailing list Baypiggies rejected

Danny Yoo dyoo at hkn.eecs.berkeley.edu
Wed Jan 10 22:58:52 CET 2007

On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Russell Whitaker wrote:

> So, the listowner has made the decision that cross-posting to other lists
> is not permitted then?

[meta: not really Python related]

Hi Russell,

But this isn't anything too new on any particular mailing list: 
discouraging crossposting is typical -- in fact, expected! --- on almost 
all mailing lists.  Please see:


You may not think this causes a problem for you, but crosstalk between two 
mailing lists does cause a lot of headache for the list admin and the 
members on both lists.

Let me explicitely testify what often happens with crossposting: if a 
crossposted conversation does pick up, then people on different mailing 
lists will have incomplete knowledge about the thread since they are not 
subscribed to both lists.  Furthermore, because of the spam guards, the 
admin then has to go in and continuously moderate the thread.  A lot of 
duplication happens on both lists, and no one is really happy.

This has happened in the past with python-help and python-tutor, and I can 
testify that crossposting really doesn't help improve discussion: it often 
had the opposite effect in my experience.  So the taboo on crossposting 
have good reasons behind it.  If you want a substantial conversation, pick 
one venue and go with it: you'll have a most cohesive conversation that 

Also, I think you're taking this all too personally.  Please note that the 
message that you got:

> "Please trim the recipient list; it is too long.

is a default message that comes preinstalled with the Mailman mailing list 
manager software.  If its tone sounds curt and mean, please understand 
that it's pretty mechanical too.  We're not personally rejecting your 
efforts: we're just rejecting the counterproductive act of crossposting.

I know nothing about capability security systems, but it might be best to 
bring it up on the main comp.lang.python newsgroup if you truly want to 
reach a large audience.  The problem there is that there is the 
possibility of getting drowned out by all the other threads going on 
there.  Ah well.

Anyway, good luck to you!

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