[Baypiggies] pre-registration for Baypiggies meeting

David Cramer dcramer at gmail.com
Mon Jul 9 19:50:26 CEST 2007


I agree -- using the wiki as a place to signup isn't very effective.

On 7/9/07, Warren Stringer <warren at muse.com> wrote:
>
> How about using Meetup.com as the registration vehicle? Several reasons:
>
>         1) many people on meetup.com
>                 a) have expressed an interest in Python
>                 b) don't know about the baypiggies
>
>         2) scheduling via wiki has flaws
>                 a) in general, a wiki is not a calendar
>                 b) the Python Wiki UI is obscure
>
> For example, here's retracing my steps for attending Baypiggies meeting,
> via
> wiki:
>
>         Goto to: http://baypiggies.net/
>         Notice that there isn't a calendar
>         Recall that there is some mention of a wiki
>         Search page for wiki link
>         Click on wiki link
>         New page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings
>         Notice that there isn't a calendar
>         Click on BayPiggies Meetings at Google
>         New Page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies
>         Click on only link: Web site:  http://baypiggies.net
>         Which brings you back to : http://baypiggies.net/
>         Grumble quietly and press the back button
>         Old Page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies
>         Type in search term: "meeting"
>         New Page:
>
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=m
> eeting
>         Grumble again, hit the back button
>         Old page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies
>         Spend a few moments figuring out where to go next
>         Guess and Click on Title Index
>         New Page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/TitleIndex
>         Grumble at the list of everything to do with Python
>         Manual search for "BayPiggies"
>         Search brings you deeper into page
>         Decide whether you should click on
>                 BayPiggies or BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings
>         Click on BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings
>         New page:
>         Utter epithet at no signup
>         Click on "BayPiggies Meetings at Google"
>         Old page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies
>         Swear out loud
>         Hit the back button
>         In Desperation click "Directions to Google:..."
>         New Page: http://www.google.com/corporate/address.html#directions
>         With a feeling of resignation go back
>         Old page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings
>         Spend a few moments wondering what to do next
>         Decide to click on LOGIN
>         New Page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/UserPreferences
>         Wonder why the Login Form is called "UserPreferences"
>         Decide that you -ahem- *prefer* to Login.
>         Spend some time figuring out the overloaded triple purpose input
> form
>                 Where some fields should be ignored depending on
>                         which of the three things I want to do
>                         what button to press
>         Type in your often used username and password
>         Updated page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/UserPreferences
>         Scratch you head that nothing has changed
>         Try again:
>         Updated page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/UserPreferences
>         Search for clues, after input form
>         Try again:
>         Oh! there is status line stuck in the *Middle*
>                 Below the "UserPreferences" which this form isn't
>                 Below the Search field, which this form isn't
>                 Above the TRIPLE Purpose form
>                 In the smallest font on the page
>         Begin to laugh out loud
>         Go through sign up process (many steps here)
>         Login under new user name
>         New page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/UserPreferences
>         Spend some time wondering where to go next
>         Click on Front Page
>         New Page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/FrontPage
>         Shake head in wonderment at generic Python page
>         Decide whether to use search field or scan page
>         Click on "You Recent Pages: BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings"
>         Old page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings
>         Shake off that feeling like you're attempting to join a Masonic
> order
>                 And you're at the first of 39 steps before reaching
> guidodom.
>         Decide to just show up.
>         Give up
>
> That was last month. This month, while attempting to retrieve a password,
> I
> get the message:
>
> {u'': (550, '<None>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local
> recipient table')}
>
> because I attempted to get password based on username. A programmer might
> reply that this is a case of RTFM. A designer might reply that this is a
> case of a turning turning a simple goal of signing up for a meeting into
> your worst nightmare.
>
> May I suggest a peek at another Wiki, a good UI : http://barcamp.org/
> But, this is beside the point. A wiki is NOT a calendar. A usable meetup
> calendar is:  www.meetup.com  and, while you're at it, search on Python
> meetups.
>
> Sorry for any crushed toes; even while I grumble, I appreciate the time to
> support this group.
>
> Cheers,
>
> \~/
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: baypiggies-bounces at python.org [mailto:
> baypiggies-bounces at python.org]
> > On Behalf Of Rick Kwan
> > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 8:39 AM
> > To: Leslie Hawthorn
> > Cc: baypiggies at python.org
> > Subject: Re: [Baypiggies] pre-registration for Baypiggies meeting
> >
> > The wiki sign-up page still said June, with Colin Winter.  I took the
> > liberty of revising it quickly to say July, with the NLTK speakers,
> > and left a pointer to the abstract.
> >
> > I apologize in advance; I have a little page gremlin in me that
> > sometimes escapes to the keyboard...  Feel free to correct his
> > handiwork.
> >
> > --Rick Kwan
> >
> > On 7/9/07, Leslie Hawthorn <lhawthorn at google.com> wrote:
> > > Hello everyone,
> > >
> > > Please pre-register for this Thursday's Baypiggies meeting on the wiki
> > by
> > > PM on Wednesday, 7/11:
> > >
> > > http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > LH
> > >
> > > --
> > > Leslie Hawthorn
> > > Program Manager - Open Source
> > > Google Inc.
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Baypiggies mailing list
> > > Baypiggies at python.org
> > > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
> > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Baypiggies mailing list
> > Baypiggies at python.org
> > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Baypiggies mailing list
> Baypiggies at python.org
> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies
>



-- 
David Cramer
Lead Developer
Curse, Inc.
http://www.curse.com/
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/baypiggies/attachments/20070709/5a4e74e5/attachment-0001.html 


More information about the Baypiggies mailing list