[Baypiggies] pre-registration for Baypiggies meeting
Leslie Hawthorn
lhawthorn at google.com
Mon Jul 9 20:33:36 CEST 2007
Provided meetup.com has an easy means to export the attendee list and I can
have access to it, works for me. I have to provide a list of all attendees
to security in advance, hence listing the names on the wiki. The
alternative is for everyone to sign it at reception upon arrival, which
folks don't like since it means long wait times.
Cheers,
LH
On 7/9/07, David Cramer <dcramer at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I agree -- using the wiki as a place to signup isn't very effective.
>
> On 7/9/07, Warren Stringer <warren at muse.com > wrote:
> >
> > How about using Meetup.com as the registration vehicle? Several reasons:
> >
> >
> > 1) many people on meetup.com
> > a) have expressed an interest in Python
> > b) don't know about the baypiggies
> >
> > 2) scheduling via wiki has flaws
> > a) in general, a wiki is not a calendar
> > b) the Python Wiki UI is obscure
> >
> > For example, here's retracing my steps for attending Baypiggies meeting,
> > via
> > wiki:
> >
> > Goto to: http://baypiggies.net/
> > Notice that there isn't a calendar
> > Recall that there is some mention of a wiki
> > Search page for wiki link
> > Click on wiki link
> > New page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings
> > Notice that there isn't a calendar
> > Click on BayPiggies Meetings at Google
> > New Page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies
> > Click on only link: Web site: http://baypiggies.net
> > Which brings you back to : http://baypiggies.net/
> > Grumble quietly and press the back button
> > Old Page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies
> > Type in search term: "meeting"
> > New Page:
> > http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=m
> >
> > eeting
> > Grumble again, hit the back button
> > Old page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies
> > Spend a few moments figuring out where to go next
> > Guess and Click on Title Index
> > New Page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/TitleIndex
> > Grumble at the list of everything to do with Python
> > Manual search for "BayPiggies"
> > Search brings you deeper into page
> > Decide whether you should click on
> > BayPiggies or BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings
> > Click on BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings
> > New page:
> > Utter epithet at no signup
> > Click on "BayPiggies Meetings at Google"
> > Old page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies
> > Swear out loud
> > Hit the back button
> > In Desperation click "Directions to Google:..."
> > New Page: http://www.google.com/corporate/address.html#directions
> >
> > With a feeling of resignation go back
> > Old page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings
> > Spend a few moments wondering what to do next
> > Decide to click on LOGIN
> > New Page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/UserPreferences
> > Wonder why the Login Form is called "UserPreferences"
> > Decide that you -ahem- *prefer* to Login.
> > Spend some time figuring out the overloaded triple purpose input
> > form
> > Where some fields should be ignored depending on
> > which of the three things I want to do
> > what button to press
> > Type in your often used username and password
> > Updated page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/UserPreferences
> > Scratch you head that nothing has changed
> > Try again:
> > Updated page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/UserPreferences
> > Search for clues, after input form
> > Try again:
> > Oh! there is status line stuck in the *Middle*
> > Below the "UserPreferences" which this form isn't
> > Below the Search field, which this form isn't
> > Above the TRIPLE Purpose form
> > In the smallest font on the page
> > Begin to laugh out loud
> > Go through sign up process (many steps here)
> > Login under new user name
> > New page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/UserPreferences
> > Spend some time wondering where to go next
> > Click on Front Page
> > New Page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/FrontPage
> > Shake head in wonderment at generic Python page
> > Decide whether to use search field or scan page
> > Click on "You Recent Pages: BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings"
> > Old page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings
> > Shake off that feeling like you're attempting to join a Masonic
> > order
> > And you're at the first of 39 steps before reaching
> > guidodom.
> > Decide to just show up.
> > Give up
> >
> > That was last month. This month, while attempting to retrieve a
> > password, I
> > get the message:
> >
> > {u'': (550, '<None>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local
> > recipient table')}
> >
> > because I attempted to get password based on username. A programmer
> > might
> > reply that this is a case of RTFM. A designer might reply that this is a
> > case of a turning turning a simple goal of signing up for a meeting into
> > your worst nightmare.
> >
> > May I suggest a peek at another Wiki, a good UI : http://barcamp.org/
> > But, this is beside the point. A wiki is NOT a calendar. A usable meetup
> > calendar is: www.meetup.com and, while you're at it, search on Python
> > meetups.
> >
> > Sorry for any crushed toes; even while I grumble, I appreciate the time
> > to
> > support this group.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > \~/
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: baypiggies-bounces at python.org [mailto:
> > baypiggies-bounces at python.org]
> > > On Behalf Of Rick Kwan
> > > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 8:39 AM
> > > To: Leslie Hawthorn
> > > Cc: baypiggies at python.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Baypiggies] pre-registration for Baypiggies meeting
> > >
> > > The wiki sign-up page still said June, with Colin Winter. I took the
> > > liberty of revising it quickly to say July, with the NLTK speakers,
> > > and left a pointer to the abstract.
> > >
> > > I apologize in advance; I have a little page gremlin in me that
> > > sometimes escapes to the keyboard... Feel free to correct his
> > > handiwork.
> > >
> > > --Rick Kwan
> > >
> > > On 7/9/07, Leslie Hawthorn <lhawthorn at google.com> wrote:
> > > > Hello everyone,
> > > >
> > > > Please pre-register for this Thursday's Baypiggies meeting on the
> > wiki
> > > by
> > > > PM on Wednesday, 7/11:
> > > >
> > > > http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > LH
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Leslie Hawthorn
> > > > Program Manager - Open Source
> > > > Google Inc.
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