[Baypiggies] pre-registration for Baypiggies meeting
Mikeal Rogers
mikeal at osafoundation.org
Mon Jul 9 22:01:48 CEST 2007
Paying $12/mo for something we could easily write in to the existing
Plone or in seperate django/Pylons app in about an hour seems like a
bit much.
I'm in favor of keeping everything free, and using open source stuff
whenever possible.
-Mikeal
On Jul 9, 2007, at 12:54 PM, Warren Stringer wrote:
> Could do it for next month - thereby no need for porting a list.
> Signup to
> Meetup.com is pretty simple. Don't know how the money flows; $12/mo is
> rather cheap. Pass a hat?
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: baypiggies-bounces at python.org [mailto:baypiggies-
>> bounces at python.org]
>> On Behalf Of Russell Whitaker
>> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 11:51 AM
>> To: Leslie Hawthorn
>> Cc: Python
>> Subject: Re: [Baypiggies] pre-registration for Baypiggies meeting
>>
>> On 7/9/07, Leslie Hawthorn <lhawthorn at google.com> wrote:
>>> Provided meetup.com has an easy means to export the attendee list
>>> and I
>> can
>>> have access to it, works for me. I have to provide a list of all
>> attendees
>>> to security in advance, hence listing the names on the wiki. The
>>> alternative is for everyone to sign it at reception upon arrival,
>>> which
>>> folks don't like since it means long wait times.
>>>
>>
>> Note also that on meetup.com:
>>
>> 1.) Someone has to sign up as the meeting organizer, and pay a fee
>> for the privilege;
>> 2.) Attendees need to be meetup.com members.
>>
>> I do not think an attendee list export function exists there.
>>
>> Russell
>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> LH
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/9/07, David Cramer <dcramer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I agree -- using the wiki as a place to signup isn't very
>>>> effective.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/9/07, Warren Stringer < warren at muse.com > wrote:
>>>>> How about using Meetup.com as the registration vehicle? Several
>> reasons:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) many people on meetup.com
>>>>> a) have expressed an interest in Python
>>>>> b) don't know about the baypiggies
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) scheduling via wiki has flaws
>>>>> a) in general, a wiki is not a calendar
>>>>> b) the Python Wiki UI is obscure
>>>>>
>>>>> For example, here's retracing my steps for attending Baypiggies
>> meeting,
>>> via
>>>>> wiki:
>>>>>
>>>>> Goto to: http://baypiggies.net/
>>>>> Notice that there isn't a calendar
>>>>> Recall that there is some mention of a wiki
>>>>> Search page for wiki link
>>>>> Click on wiki link
>>>>> New page:
>>> http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings
>>>>> Notice that there isn't a calendar
>>>>> Click on BayPiggies Meetings at Google
>>>>> New Page:
>>> http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies
>>>>> Click on only link: Web site: http://baypiggies.net
>>>>> Which brings you back to : http://baypiggies.net/
>>>>> Grumble quietly and press the back button
>>>>> Old Page:
>>> http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies
>>>>> Type in search term: "meeting"
>>>>> New Page:
>>>>>
>>>
>> http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies?
>> action=fullsearch&context=180&value
>> =m
>>>>> eeting
>>>>> Grumble again, hit the back button
>>>>> Old page:
>>> http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies
>>>>> Spend a few moments figuring out where to go next
>>>>> Guess and Click on Title Index
>>>>> New Page:
>>> http://wiki.python.org/moin/TitleIndex
>>>>> Grumble at the list of everything to do with Python
>>>>> Manual search for "BayPiggies"
>>>>> Search brings you deeper into page
>>>>> Decide whether you should click on
>>>>> BayPiggies or BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings
>>>>> Click on BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings
>>>>> New page:
>>>>> Utter epithet at no signup
>>>>> Click on "BayPiggies Meetings at Google"
>>>>> Old page:
>>> http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies
>>>>> Swear out loud
>>>>> Hit the back button
>>>>> In Desperation click "Directions to Google:..."
>>>>> New Page:
>>> http://www.google.com/corporate/address.html#directions
>>>>> With a feeling of resignation go back
>>>>> Old page:
>>> http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings
>>>>> Spend a few moments wondering what to do next
>>>>> Decide to click on LOGIN
>>>>> New Page:
>>> http://wiki.python.org/moin/UserPreferences
>>>>> Wonder why the Login Form is called "UserPreferences"
>>>>> Decide that you -ahem- *prefer* to Login.
>>>>> Spend some time figuring out the overloaded triple purpose
>> input
>>>>> form
>>>>> Where some fields should be ignored depending on
>>>>> which of the three things I want to do
>>>>> what button to press
>>>>> Type in your often used username and password
>>>>> Updated page:
>>> http://wiki.python.org/moin/UserPreferences
>>>>> Scratch you head that nothing has changed
>>>>> Try again:
>>>>> Updated page:
>>> http://wiki.python.org/moin/UserPreferences
>>>>> Search for clues, after input form
>>>>> Try again:
>>>>> Oh! there is status line stuck in the *Middle*
>>>>> Below the "UserPreferences" which this form isn't
>>>>> Below the Search field, which this form isn't
>>>>> Above the TRIPLE Purpose form
>>>>> In the smallest font on the page
>>>>> Begin to laugh out loud
>>>>> Go through sign up process (many steps here)
>>>>> Login under new user name
>>>>> New page:
>>> http://wiki.python.org/moin/UserPreferences
>>>>> Spend some time wondering where to go next
>>>>> Click on Front Page
>>>>> New Page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/FrontPage
>>>>> Shake head in wonderment at generic Python page
>>>>> Decide whether to use search field or scan page
>>>>> Click on "You Recent Pages: BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings"
>>>>> Old page:
>>> http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings
>>>>> Shake off that feeling like you're attempting to join a
>> Masonic
>>>>> order
>>>>> And you're at the first of 39 steps before
>>>>> reaching
>>>>> guidodom.
>>>>> Decide to just show up.
>>>>> Give up
>>>>>
>>>>> That was last month. This month, while attempting to retrieve a
>>> password, I
>>>>> get the message:
>>>>>
>>>>> {u'': (550, '<None>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in
>> local
>>>>> recipient table')}
>>>>>
>>>>> because I attempted to get password based on username. A
>>>>> programmer
>>> might
>>>>> reply that this is a case of RTFM. A designer might reply that
>>>>> this
>> is a
>>>>> case of a turning turning a simple goal of signing up for a
>>>>> meeting
>> into
>>>>> your worst nightmare.
>>>>>
>>>>> May I suggest a peek at another Wiki, a good UI :
>> http://barcamp.org/
>>>>> But, this is beside the point. A wiki is NOT a calendar. A usable
>> meetup
>>>>> calendar is: www.meetup.com and, while you're at it, search on
>> Python
>>>>> meetups.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry for any crushed toes; even while I grumble, I appreciate the
>> time
>>> to
>>>>> support this group.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> \~/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: baypiggies-bounces at python.org
>>> [mailto:baypiggies-bounces at python.org]
>>>>>> On Behalf Of Rick Kwan
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 8:39 AM
>>>>>> To: Leslie Hawthorn
>>>>>> Cc: baypiggies at python.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Baypiggies] pre-registration for Baypiggies meeting
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The wiki sign-up page still said June, with Colin Winter. I took
>> the
>>>>>> liberty of revising it quickly to say July, with the NLTK
>> speakers,
>>>>>> and left a pointer to the abstract.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I apologize in advance; I have a little page gremlin in me that
>>>>>> sometimes escapes to the keyboard... Feel free to correct his
>>>>>> handiwork.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --Rick Kwan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/9/07, Leslie Hawthorn <lhawthorn at google.com > wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please pre-register for this Thursday's Baypiggies meeting on
>> the
>>> wiki
>>>>>> by
>>>>>>> PM on Wednesday, 7/11:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> LH
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Leslie Hawthorn
>>>>>>> Program Manager - Open Source
>>>>>>> Google Inc.
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>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> David Cramer
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>>
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>> Russell Whitaker
>> Google Inc., Mt View, CA
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