[Baypiggies] QCon - introducing a new software developers conference

[David Reid]

On Sep 26, 2007, at 8:40 PM, Rick Kwan wrote:

> I saw a lot of e-mail addresses of BayPIGgies members on the initial
> message.  In fact, was that the full member list?

I think it was just the non-digest list members.  I apparently sent  
the original to /dev/null but i think it was about 370 addresses.   
Mailman reports the non-digest list members as totaling 371.

-David

> --Rick Kwan
>
> On 9/26/07, Shannon -jj Behrens <jjinux at gmail.com> wrote:
>> If this is for developers and by developers, then $1600 is the  
>> *total*
>> cost of the conference, right?  That means we'll only have to spend
>> about $2 each, right?
>>
>> Who do you guys think I am, an Oracle consultant? ;)
>>
>> -jj
>>
>> On 9/26/07, Guido van Rossum <guido at python.org> wrote:
>>> Well said. Especially at $1600 or more (which was stated nowhere in
>>> the email, nor on the front page of the conference website, but only
>>> on the registration page). What's so different about this  
>>> conference?
>>> I very much doubt that if it was really organized "by software
>>> developers, for software developers" it would cost that much. I  
>>> don't
>>> know any software developers who know how to spend that much  
>>> money on
>>> swag.
>>>
>>> On 9/26/07, Alex Martelli <aleax at google.com> wrote:
>>>> On 9/26/07, Liv Beswick Skov <lbs at innovationcenterdenmark.com>  
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hallo Baypiggies,
>>>>
>>>> You *DO* know that the "p" there stands for Python, right?
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The conference is providing a venue for learning, networking,  
>>>>> and tracking
>>>> innovation in the Java, .NET, Ruby, SOA, and Agile communities  
>>>> also with a
>>>>
>>>> Explicitly listing these two languages (Java and Ruby), and just as
>>>> explicitly leaving Python out of the list of languages, makes  
>>>> this sentence
>>>> appear quite inimical to the Python community, by making it  
>>>> clear that the
>>>> Python language is NOT a "first-class citizen" from your point  
>>>> of view when
>>>> compared to Java and Ruby.  Please go spam mailing lists that  
>>>> are devoted to
>>>> the communities you list, and stop spamming lists devoted to  
>>>> languages you
>>>> so blatantly exclude from your purview.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Alex
>>>>
>>>>
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