[Baypiggies] Frequently Argued Objections

Warren Stringer warren at muse.com
Mon Jun 23 17:38:59 CEST 2008

Nope. I don't expect anything to change. I suggested dot-as-self to  
Guido for P3K, but he said it was too late. That's fine. I appreciate  

However, in the context of a FAO, forcing self (along with implicit  
parameter passing) is probably the biggest objection. It was the most  
confusing thing to me, as a newbie and I've heard the same complaint  
from others.  Ignoring the issue or suggesting that someone discuss it  
somewhere else isn't going to make that objection magically disappear.  
I have phrased the objection in the forum that the subject was brought  
up. Three people have replied constructively, including yourself. I  
have replied constructively. I find the suggestion (implicit or other  
ways, hah!) that I then stop my input in this forum and take it  
elsewhere to be less than constructive.

So, I'll raise one more Objection. I will state unequivocally that  
Python is my favorite scripting language. I find a static structure in  
languages  to be useful in making my code and other people's code more  
interchangeable. However, stating the value of a static structure in  
dogmatic terms, such as "we don't do it that way because that is not  
how it is done" will put some people off. Myself included.

Anyway, it is Monday, and I have other things to do that tilt at  



On Jun 23, 2008, at 7:59 AM, Aahz wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 23, 2008, Warren Stringer wrote:
>> As with other languages, 'self' can still be available; simply not
>> required.
> If you really want to debate this, I suggest subscribing to python- 
> ideas
> (it's certainly on-topic for baypiggies, I just think you won't get  
> much
> interest in discussing it after a while).
> -- 
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