From jjinux at gmail.com  Sat Nov  1 10:26:19 2008
From: jjinux at gmail.com (Shannon -jj Behrens)
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 02:26:19 -0700
Subject: [Baypiggies] Possible future meeting topic
In-Reply-To: <db6b5ecc0810291007s3b20ead9ga1e1bb82d390f859@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Fernando Perez <fperez.net at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 2:00 AM, Shannon -jj Behrens <jjinux at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Coding in the shell is great, but sometimes coding in the debugger is
>> like coding in the shell but with all the setup already taken care of
>> ;)  It's a good trick when you want to code in the shell, but you're
>> writing a Web app that requires a full request, etc. and you need to
>> "look around" at all the data in the environ to figure out what to do.
>>  2 minutes looking around in pdb saves 20 minutes looking through
>> middleware documentation ;)
>
> +1.  One of my favorite approaches is to simply drop an explicit
>
> 1/0
>
> at the point in the code where I want to go rooting around.  Then run
> the code (I'm obviously always working in ipython :) and type %debug
> after the exception blows up.  This opens up a slightly nicer pdb
> (with coloring and all-important tab completion), and I often find
> what I need that way very quickly.
>
> If you like this approach, for cases with more complex logic you may
> find the embedded ipython trick useful:
>
> http://ipython.scipy.org/doc/manual/html/interactive/reference.html#embedding-ipython
>
> One line of code and you have a full-blown ipython open at any point
> inside your code.
>
> Cheers,

I think you should cover this at the talk ;)

I use "import pdb; pdb.set_trace()", but since I already use IPython,
I'd love to hear more about %debug.

-jj

-- 
The safest way to do multithreaded programming is to put each thread
in its own process ;)
http://jjinux.blogspot.com/

From john_re at fastmail.us  Sat Nov  1 14:39:10 2008
From: john_re at fastmail.us (john_re)
Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 06:39:10 -0700
Subject: [Baypiggies] BerkeleyTIP Today Nov 1 New Videos. VOIP Online & in
	Berkeley
Message-ID: <1225546750.14381.1282434263@webmail.messagingengine.com>

Scientific Python talk today.

Join with the global GNU(Linux) BSD FreeSW monthly meeting.
 - Online from your home or anywhere, by yourself or with friends
 - Use a microphone & headset for VOIP
OR - Come to the local Berkeley Meeting.

== Great new VIDEOS - See BTG page for times
  DebConf - Welcome talk - introductory session
  DebConf - Debian - 15 years and counting
  Akedemy - The KDE e.V.: Foundation for the Community
  SciPy   - Scientific computing Python workshop - Intro
  Linux   - Kexec/Kdump: Managing Linux crash dumps

DISCUSSION: New: UBUNTU 8.10, Kubuntu w/ KDE4, OPEN OFFICE 3

PROGRAMMING PARTY: VOIP conferencing.

==
BerkeleyTIP-Global & Local meets Nov 1 Satruday 12N-6PM PDST
Monthly Global meeting:  FreeSW GNU(Linux) BSD Distros
  Programming DBs Internet Hardware Applications

Join us online from home, or anywhere - IRC Freenode #BerkeleyTIP
  & using VOIP, Ekiga - (under development)
Or come to the physical meeting at UC Berkeley.

== See the Google Groups for the latest details:
http://groups.google.com/group/BerkTIPGlobal
http://groups.google.com/group/BerkTIP

=================================================
CONTENTS:
1) MEETING Nov 1 Sat 10A-6P PDST - Berkeley
                     12N-6P PDST - Global
2) Join ONLINE using IRC & maybe VOIP-Ekiga
3) VIDEOS - Get them here
4) PROGRAMMING PARTY - VOIP conferencing
5) DISCUSSION: New UBUNTU 8.10, OPEN OFFICE 3
6) No Potluck this meeting

=================================================
1) Meeting Nov 1 Sat 10A-6P PDST - Online everywhere, & in Berkeley
  Berkeley Meeting starts 10AM
  Global Online meeting starts during 11AM PDST, IRC up by 12N
    ADJUST FOR YOUR TIME ZONE: Ex: EDST 3P = PDST 12N
  See the Google Groups for the hourly schedule.
  -- Free Speech Cafe in Moffitt Undergrad Library
  --  WATCH WEB PAGE IN CASE OF LOCATION CHANGE
  -- See BerkTIP Google Group web page for locations details.

PARKING: Football game - Might need to park 5-10 blocks away for
  free street parking.  Garages might charge $5-20.
BART, CALTRAIN, BUS, CARPOOL - GOOD ALTERNATIVES TO DRIVING.

2) Join Online using IRC & maybe VOIP-Ekiga
  Join us online IRC Freenode #BerkeleyTIP
  & using VOIP, Ekiga - (under development)
  VOIP-Ekiga - Get your own VOIP client working
    Ekiga - do a loopback test with mic & headset
http://groups.google.com/group/BerkTIPGlobal/web/irc-voip

3) Videos - Get them here
http://groups.google.com/group/BerkTIPGlobal/web/videos

4) Programming Party - VOIP conferencing
  Work on getting VOIP conferencing going
  Get your own VOIP client working
  http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Fun_Numbers
  Work on gettin a conference call going.

5) DISCUSSION: New UBUNTU 8.10, OPEN OFFICE 3

6) No Potluck this meeting

See you online, or in Berkeley :)

From fperez.net at gmail.com  Sun Nov  2 03:21:52 2008
From: fperez.net at gmail.com (Fernando Perez)
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 19:21:52 -0700
Subject: [Baypiggies] Possible future meeting topic
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On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:26 AM, Shannon -jj Behrens <jjinux at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think you should cover this at the talk ;)

My november talk is about scientific computing and python, ipython may
be mentioned but just in passing as a part of the 'scipy ecosystem'.

Cheers,

f

From slander at unworkable.org  Sun Nov  2 07:10:35 2008
From: slander at unworkable.org (Harry Tormey)
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 23:10:35 -0700
Subject: [Baypiggies] PyGameSF meetup Monday November 3rd 7pm @ Metreon San
	Francisco
Message-ID: <20081102061035.GA2915@unworkable.org>

Hi All,
just writing to say that this months PyGameSF meet up is on Monday
November 3rd from 7pm on at the Metreon food court in San Francisco. This
month's presentations are:

-Tim 'mithro' Ansell "Taking over the universe!The story of Thousand
Parsec project."

About: Thousand Parsec is both a set of games and a framework for
building 4X space empire building games (such as Master of Orion and 
Stars!). Come find out about it's current status, how the project 
developed and where it is going.

http://www.thousandparsec.net/tp/

-Casey Duncan "Getting to know Blender"

About: An introduction to the amazing OSS 3D modeling tool, Blender,
and ways to use it to create assets for your Pythongames. This talk
will cover topics like Subdivision modeling, Rendering for 2D games,
exporting models for 3d games.

PyGame SF is an informal group meet up in San Francisco for Software
engineers interested in python, OpenGL, audio, pygame, SDL,
programming and generally anything to do with multimedia development.
The format of our meetings typically involve several people giving
presentations on projects they are developing followed by
group discussion and feedback.

If anyone else would like to give a micro presentation, show demos or
just talk about what they are doing or generally give examples of any
relevant software they are working on please feel free to head along.

To subscribe to the pygamesf mailing list simply email
pygame-sf+subscribe at unworkable.org

--
Harry Tormey
http://www.pygamesf.org


From donnamsnow at gmail.com  Mon Nov  3 21:55:33 2008
From: donnamsnow at gmail.com (Donna Snow)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:55:33 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] World Plone Day - November 7, 2008
Message-ID: <baf0d46b0811031255rccc190dxe4134eb9af51efc1@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I'm hosting the Silicon Valley version of World Plone Day on Friday of this
week.

http://plone.org/events/wpd/2008/san-jose-california

If you would like to attend please RSVP here.

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=fws1MmRi2vZIJDRm1fjGPA_3d_3d

I've split the event into two sessions, one in the morning and one in the
afternoon. Please let me know which one you'll attend.

I've got two books to raffle off for the event:

Essential SQLAlchemy by Rick Copeland
Python for Unix and Linux System Administration by Noah Gift and Jeremy M
Jones

I also have Google notebooks (hemingway notebooks, small pocket-sized in 4
different colors) to give away.

Love to see some of our BayPiggies at the event :-)

Best Regards,
Donna M Snow, Principal
C Squared Enterprises
illuminating your path to Open Source
http://www.csquaredtech.com
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From donnamsnow at gmail.com  Wed Nov  5 20:45:52 2008
From: donnamsnow at gmail.com (Donna Snow)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 11:45:52 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] World Plone Day - November 7, 2008 - please RSVP
Message-ID: <baf0d46b0811051145i48a6c119r4a436c80498e3f50@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Here is my craigslist posting, if you are attending please RSVP, thank you!

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/eve/907004796.html

If you know of any other "groups" in the area that might be interested in an
informative session on Plone please
feel free to email me offlist and let me know donna at csquaredtech.com

Best Regards,
Donna M Snow, Principal
C Squared Enterprises
illuminating your path to Open Source
http://www.csquaredtech.com
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From donnamsnow at gmail.com  Thu Nov  6 22:20:01 2008
From: donnamsnow at gmail.com (Donna Snow)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 13:20:01 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] [EVENT] World Plone Day - November 7,
	2008 - please RSVP
In-Reply-To: <baf0d46b0811051145i48a6c119r4a436c80498e3f50@mail.gmail.com>
References: <baf0d46b0811051145i48a6c119r4a436c80498e3f50@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <baf0d46b0811061320u6e225541hc8f2adcc17526bbb@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

One last reminder, if you are planning on attending the World Plone Day at
Plug and Play Tech Center tomorrow please RSVP. We will be giving away
Google Notebooks and entering attendees in a book giveaway.

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=fws1MmRi2vZIJDRm1fjGPA_3d_3d

We will also attempt to stream all the other events happening tomorrow.

Best Regards,
Donna M Snow, Principal
C Squared Enterprises
illuminating your path to Open Source
http://www.csquaredtech.com

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Donna Snow <donnamsnow at gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 11:45 AM
Subject: World Plone Day - November 7, 2008 - please RSVP
To: BayPiggies <baypiggies at python.org>


Hi,

Here is my craigslist posting, if you are attending please RSVP, thank you!

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/eve/907004796.html

If you know of any other "groups" in the area that might be interested in an
informative session on Plone please
feel free to email me offlist and let me know donna at csquaredtech.com

Best Regards,
Donna M Snow, Principal
C Squared Enterprises
illuminating your path to Open Source
http://www.csquaredtech.com
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From bsergean at gmail.com  Thu Nov  6 23:09:32 2008
From: bsergean at gmail.com (Benjamin Sergeant)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:09:32 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Possible future meeting topic
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References: <e58a4bea0810122208x31b38cc1u82a86f17e72925ea@mail.gmail.com>
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On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 1:26 AM, Shannon -jj Behrens <jjinux at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Fernando Perez <fperez.net at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 2:00 AM, Shannon -jj Behrens <jjinux at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Coding in the shell is great, but sometimes coding in the debugger is
> >> like coding in the shell but with all the setup already taken care of
> >> ;)  It's a good trick when you want to code in the shell, but you're
> >> writing a Web app that requires a full request, etc. and you need to
> >> "look around" at all the data in the environ to figure out what to do.
> >>  2 minutes looking around in pdb saves 20 minutes looking through
> >> middleware documentation ;)
> >
> > +1.  One of my favorite approaches is to simply drop an explicit
> >
> > 1/0
> >
> > at the point in the code where I want to go rooting around.  Then run
> > the code (I'm obviously always working in ipython :) and type %debug
> > after the exception blows up.  This opens up a slightly nicer pdb
> > (with coloring and all-important tab completion), and I often find
> > what I need that way very quickly.
> >
> > If you like this approach, for cases with more complex logic you may
> > find the embedded ipython trick useful:
> >
> >
> http://ipython.scipy.org/doc/manual/html/interactive/reference.html#embedding-ipython
> >
> > One line of code and you have a full-blown ipython open at any point
> > inside your code.
> >
> > Cheers,
>
> I think you should cover this at the talk ;)
>
> I use "import pdb; pdb.set_trace()", but since I already use IPython,
> I'd love to hear more about %debug.
>


I just tried to sneak
"import pdb; pdb.set_trace()"
in some google app engine code (app, not core) and it didn't work (was
trying to use bdb I think, which is one of the fordidden module ?).

In a talk on pdb, I think a slide with limitations/tricks would be nice. For
example I use that for debuging pyqt apps.

It you see the following message when debuging with pdb:

    Flood message: "QCoreApplication::exec: The event loop is already
running"

Use this pyqt call before:

    from PyQt4 import QtCore, QtGui, QtOpenGL
    QtCore.pyqtRemoveInputHook()

- Benjamin



>
> -jj
>
> --
> The safest way to do multithreaded programming is to put each thread
> in its own process ;)
> http://jjinux.blogspot.com/
> _______________________________________________
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From cappy2112 at gmail.com  Sat Nov  8 18:34:49 2008
From: cappy2112 at gmail.com (Tony Cappellini)
Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 09:34:49 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Baypiggies.net is down again- at least from where I"m
	at in San Jose
Message-ID: <8249c4ac0811080934s4be1489aw622e3d295d2f1e98@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.baypiggies.net/new/plone


Can one of the admins look into this?

Thanks
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From jim at well.com  Sat Nov  8 19:16:05 2008
From: jim at well.com (jim)
Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 10:16:05 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Baypiggies.net is down again- at least from
	where	I"m at in San Jose
In-Reply-To: <8249c4ac0811080934s4be1489aw622e3d295d2f1e98@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8249c4ac0811080934s4be1489aw622e3d295d2f1e98@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1226168165.6358.119.camel@ubuntu>


looks up to me in san francisco. 

On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 09:34 -0800, Tony Cappellini wrote:
> 
> http://www.baypiggies.net/new/plone
> 
> 
> Can one of the admins look into this?
> 
> Thanks
> _______________________________________________
> Baypiggies mailing list
> Baypiggies at python.org
> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies


From donnamsnow at gmail.com  Sat Nov  8 20:02:52 2008
From: donnamsnow at gmail.com (Donna Snow)
Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 11:02:52 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Baypiggies.net is down again- at least from where
	I"m at in San Jose
In-Reply-To: <1226168165.6358.119.camel@ubuntu>
References: <8249c4ac0811080934s4be1489aw622e3d295d2f1e98@mail.gmail.com>
	<1226168165.6358.119.camel@ubuntu>
Message-ID: <baf0d46b0811081102h4fcf9927q38d5504ee935de96@mail.gmail.com>

It's up here for me as well.

Donna

On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 10:16 AM, jim <jim at well.com> wrote:

>
> looks up to me in san francisco.
>
> On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 09:34 -0800, Tony Cappellini wrote:
> >
> > http://www.baypiggies.net/new/plone
> >
> >
> > Can one of the admins look into this?
> >
> > Thanks
> > _______________________________________________
> > Baypiggies mailing list
> > Baypiggies at python.org
> > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies
>
> _______________________________________________
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From donnamsnow at gmail.com  Sat Nov  8 20:06:55 2008
From: donnamsnow at gmail.com (Donna Snow)
Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 11:06:55 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] newbie nugget
Message-ID: <baf0d46b0811081106g31a61cabx2472a22b5b8bb63@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

It was suggested at the World Plone Day event I held yesterday that a newbie
nugget or lightning talk on the new features of Plone 3 might be accepted?
It's been at least a year and a half since I did the Plone
presentation/overview and much has happened since. When is the next newbie
nugget day and/or when do you think we should fit this in.

Donna
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From jim at well.com  Sat Nov  8 20:47:05 2008
From: jim at well.com (jim)
Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 11:47:05 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] newbie nugget
In-Reply-To: <baf0d46b0811081106g31a61cabx2472a22b5b8bb63@mail.gmail.com>
References: <baf0d46b0811081106g31a61cabx2472a22b5b8bb63@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1226173625.6358.173.camel@ubuntu>


   my preference is for discussion among bayPIGgies 
members to settle on topics for meetings. after some 
sense of concensus, a few of us can scramble to set 
things up. 
   currently we have "doctest integration" as the 
newbie nugget for november's meeting. 

---------------------
   here's a list of suggestions we've gathered so far: 

* Starting with pygame!
* using datetime
* using decimal
* using pytz
* file handling basics
* string formatting/templating 

* Function decorators.
* List comprehensions.
* Generators and generator expressions.
* Function pointers and map.
* Using "else" with "for", "while", and "except".
* Using StringIO.
* Using IPython (and installing it with an egg).
* Using "try/finally" with file handles vs. using the "with" statement.
* Using lambda.

* Using IPython (and installing it with an egg) 
* Using "try/finally" with file handles vs. using the "with" statement 

* functional programming stuff like lambdas and higher order functions 

* the new "nonlocal" declaration from PEP 3104 

* the difference between nonlocal and global 

* working through scoping and immutables 
* an introduction to Nose 
* "Python Code Unravelled": looking at Decorators, Method Dispatch, List
Comprehensions, and such as shorthands for longer Python code
---------------------

   here and there people have proposed topics for 
a newbie nugget and then "taken it back" because 
they want to develop it as a full-blown featured 
talk. 
   one form of a helpful response would be along 
the lines of "i wanna do <NEWBIE_NUGGET_TOPIC> 
for december!" 
   another helpful response would reflect your 
enthusiasm (any valid integer could be accepted, 
to be factored by the numbers of persons voting: 
your +65537 for a topic might carry more weight 
than someone's +3, but maybe not much more, and 
lots of +1 votes for a topic would certainly weigh 
more than one person's large integer). 


On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 11:06 -0800, Donna Snow wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 
> It was suggested at the World Plone Day event I held yesterday that a
> newbie nugget or lightning talk on the new features of Plone 3 might
> be accepted? It's been at least a year and a half since I did the
> Plone presentation/overview and much has happened since. When is the
> next newbie nugget day and/or when do you think we should fit this
> in. 
> 
> Donna
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Baypiggies mailing list
> Baypiggies at python.org
> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies


From coryomand at gmail.com  Sun Nov  9 04:58:41 2008
From: coryomand at gmail.com (Cory Omand)
Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 19:58:41 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Baypiggies.net is down again- at least from where
	I"m at in San Jose
In-Reply-To: <baf0d46b0811081102h4fcf9927q38d5504ee935de96@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8249c4ac0811080934s4be1489aw622e3d295d2f1e98@mail.gmail.com>
	<1226168165.6358.119.camel@ubuntu>
	<baf0d46b0811081102h4fcf9927q38d5504ee935de96@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ffd485d70811081958s1b0f16le004fb17ffacfebd@mail.gmail.com>

http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/

On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Donna Snow <donnamsnow at gmail.com> wrote:
> It's up here for me as well.
>
> Donna
>
> On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 10:16 AM, jim <jim at well.com> wrote:
>>
>> looks up to me in san francisco.
>>
>> On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 09:34 -0800, Tony Cappellini wrote:
>> >
>> > http://www.baypiggies.net/new/plone
>> >
>> >
>> > Can one of the admins look into this?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Baypiggies mailing list
>> > Baypiggies at python.org
>> > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
>> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Baypiggies at python.org
>> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
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>
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From donnamsnow at gmail.com  Sun Nov  9 06:07:22 2008
From: donnamsnow at gmail.com (Donna Snow)
Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 21:07:22 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Baypiggies.net is down again- at least from where
	I"m at in San Jose
In-Reply-To: <ffd485d70811081958s1b0f16le004fb17ffacfebd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8249c4ac0811080934s4be1489aw622e3d295d2f1e98@mail.gmail.com>
	<1226168165.6358.119.camel@ubuntu>
	<baf0d46b0811081102h4fcf9927q38d5504ee935de96@mail.gmail.com>
	<ffd485d70811081958s1b0f16le004fb17ffacfebd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <baf0d46b0811082107q301c67cm66401b9280ece2f5@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Cory, I was trying to remember that url, thought I had it bookmarked
:-) (now I do)

Donna

On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 7:58 PM, Cory Omand <coryomand at gmail.com> wrote:

> http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
>
> On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Donna Snow <donnamsnow at gmail.com> wrote:
> > It's up here for me as well.
> >
> > Donna
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 10:16 AM, jim <jim at well.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> looks up to me in san francisco.
> >>
> >> On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 09:34 -0800, Tony Cappellini wrote:
> >> >
> >> > http://www.baypiggies.net/new/plone
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Can one of the admins look into this?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Baypiggies mailing list
> >> > Baypiggies at python.org
> >> > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
> >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Baypiggies mailing list
> >> Baypiggies at python.org
> >> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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From mrbmahoney at gmail.com  Tue Nov 11 04:57:38 2008
From: mrbmahoney at gmail.com (Brian Mahoney)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 19:57:38 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Dinner Announcement - Thursday, November 13, 6 pm
Message-ID: <5538c19b0811101957v49ebc17bq3eab89f30342c63a@mail.gmail.com>

 For Thursday, November 13, I can coordinate a pre-meeting
 dinner in Mountain View, before the BayPIGgies meeting
 at Google .

 Restaurant reservations may be sent to my email until
 Thursday afternoon (earlier is better). We eat family-style,
 there are vegetarian and non-vegetarian dishes.  Cost around
 $10 per person, including tax and tip. Bring cash, please.

 Start dinner at 6pm and I will keep things moving so that we
 finish and get everyone headed towards Google to
 complete sign-in before the 7:30 meeting start.

 The restaurant is Cafe Yulong in downtown Mountain View
 (650) 960-1677
 743 W Dana Street, 1/2 block from Castro where
 Books, Inc is on the corner.
 Parking lots all around, but downtown Mountain View
 parking can be difficult.

 It is a slightly out of the ordinary Chinese
 restaurant.  This link has a downtown map and
 additional information.
 http://www.mountainviewca.net/restaurants/cafeyulong.html

 I've made reservations under "Python" for 6pm
 Thursday.

 If you wish to join us for dinner please e-mail me
 by 3 pm Thursday (earlier is better) so I may confirm
 the headcount.
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From AFife at untangle.com  Wed Nov 12 22:44:16 2008
From: AFife at untangle.com (Andrew Fife)
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:44:16 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] OpenMoko CEO @ BALUG (Tuesday Nov 18)
Message-ID: <9347C2AED406124287DD2A007EB15B130183949C93@EXCHANGE.Untangle.local>

Hi Folks:



Sean Moss-Pultz will be speaking at BALUG on Tuesday (11/18).  Sean

is the CEO and founder of The OpenMoko Project, which makes a open

source linux based cell phone called the NEO FreeRunner.  Sean is a

self described San Diego surfer that landed in Taiwan as a software

developer working on embedded systems, which ultimately led to the

founding of OpenMoko.  More info on Sean, OpenMoko and the Neo

FreeRunner at these links:



http://moss-pultz.com/

http://www.openmoko.com/

http://www.openmoko.com/product.html



We're expecting a great crowd, so if you'd like to join us please RSVP:



  RSVP at balug.org



**Why RSVP??**



Well, don't worry we won't turn you away, but the RSVPs really help the

Four Seas Restaurant plan the meal and they ensure that we're able to eat

upstairs in the private banquet room.  Bottomline:  if we don't have 40

RSVPs the day before the meeting, we don't get the banquet room.



Meeting Details...



  6:30pm

  November 18th, 2008 (Next Tuesday)



  Four Seas Restaurant

  731 Grant Ave.

  San Francisco, CA 94108

  Easy $5 PARKING:  Portsmouth Square Garage at 733 Kearny



Cost: The meetings are always free, but dinner is $13



--

Andrew Fife

Untangle - The Open Source Network Gateway

www.untangle.com/download



650.425.3327 desk

415.806.6028 cell

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From jjinux at gmail.com  Thu Nov 13 01:01:28 2008
From: jjinux at gmail.com (Shannon -jj Behrens)
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:01:28 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] newbie nugget
In-Reply-To: <baf0d46b0811081106g31a61cabx2472a22b5b8bb63@mail.gmail.com>
References: <baf0d46b0811081106g31a61cabx2472a22b5b8bb63@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c41f67b90811121601x46132c4cte1d36b957bb38f75@mail.gmail.com>

> It was suggested at the World Plone Day event I held yesterday that a newbie
> nugget or lightning talk on the new features of Plone 3 might be accepted?
> It's been at least a year and a half since I did the Plone
> presentation/overview and much has happened since. When is the next newbie
> nugget day and/or when do you think we should fit this in.

I'm not sure you could say enough in the time slot allocated for a
Newbie Nugget.  Why not make it either a half talk or a full talk?
I'd be interested in hearing what's new in Plone.

Best Regards,
-jj

-- 
The safest way to do multithreaded programming is to put each thread
in its own process ;)
http://jjinux.blogspot.com/

From donnamsnow at gmail.com  Thu Nov 13 01:24:57 2008
From: donnamsnow at gmail.com (Donna Snow)
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:24:57 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] newbie nugget
In-Reply-To: <c41f67b90811121601x46132c4cte1d36b957bb38f75@mail.gmail.com>
References: <baf0d46b0811081106g31a61cabx2472a22b5b8bb63@mail.gmail.com>
	<c41f67b90811121601x46132c4cte1d36b957bb38f75@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <baf0d46b0811121624rb85772craed322a390a428a4@mail.gmail.com>

I've grown much more comfortable with doing presentations for Plone so I'd
love to do it again.

I could actually fill an entire session with what's new in Plone
(easy_install, buildout, viewlets and a new portlet manager) and the future
of Plone (wsgi, Deliverance, and eggified Products)

Let me know what month we have open and I'll plan for it.

(For those who emailed me about Plone 3 theming training, I'm holding my
first 3 day session March 18 - 20, 2009, see
http://plone.org/events/training/c2e-creating-plone-3-skins-and-custom-views
)

Best Regards,
Donna M Snow, Principal
C Squared Enterprises
illuminating your path to Open Source
408.866.1300


On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Shannon -jj Behrens <jjinux at gmail.com>wrote:

> > It was suggested at the World Plone Day event I held yesterday that a
> newbie
> > nugget or lightning talk on the new features of Plone 3 might be
> accepted?
> > It's been at least a year and a half since I did the Plone
> > presentation/overview and much has happened since. When is the next
> newbie
> > nugget day and/or when do you think we should fit this in.
>
> I'm not sure you could say enough in the time slot allocated for a
> Newbie Nugget.  Why not make it either a half talk or a full talk?
> I'd be interested in hearing what's new in Plone.
>
> Best Regards,
> -jj
>
> --
> The safest way to do multithreaded programming is to put each thread
> in its own process ;)
> http://jjinux.blogspot.com/
>
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From jim at well.com  Thu Nov 13 02:31:39 2008
From: jim at well.com (jim)
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:31:39 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] BayPIGgies meeting Thursday November 13,
	2008: NumPy and SciPy
Message-ID: <1226539899.6358.807.camel@ubuntu>


BayPIGgies meeting Thursday November 13, 2008: 
NumPy and SciPy 
By Fernando Perez 

NumPy and SciPy: how python is becoming the dominant high-level language
for scientific work, who's using it, what we do with it, what the key
projects are, where we're headed, what challenges we have, and where
others can contribute.


Tonight's Newbie Nugget is... 
DocTest by Wesley Chun 

Documentation and testing are traditionally two areas that 
programmers shy away from. With one simple change, namely doctest 
integration, you can get both in a simplistic manner and improve the 
usability of your code as well as get free testing. That is what makes 
doctest so cool! 


Location: Google Campus 
Building 40, the Seville room 
(check in at the lobby in bldg 43)


bayPIGgies meeting information: 
http://baypiggies.net/new/plone

* Please sign up in advance to have your google access badge ready: 
http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings
(no later than close of business on Wednesday.) 


Agenda

..... 7:30 PM ...........................
General hubbub, inventory end-of-meeting announcements, 
any first-minute announcements. 


..... 7:35 PM to 7:45 PM ................
Newbie Nugget: Doctest 
by Wesley Chun 
 

..... 7:45 PM to 8:45 PM ................
Talk 
by Whom 


..... 8:45 PM to 9:00 PM -- After The Talk ................
Mapping and Random Access

Mapping is a rapid-fire audience announcement of topics 
the announcers are interested in. 

Random Access follows immediately to allow follow up 
individually on the announcements and other topics of 
interest.




From john_re at fastmail.us  Thu Nov 13 15:30:08 2008
From: john_re at fastmail.us (john_re)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 06:30:08 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] OT: Google Earth,
	DejaNews/Groups - Python users? at meeting?
Message-ID: <1226586608.14621.1284579743@webmail.messagingengine.com>

I'm interested in speaking with some GE & DN/G people, general questions
about using these tools.  Anyone know if they are python users?  Know if
any of them might likely or are often/occasionally at BayPiggies
meetings?

A few months ago, there was discussion about holding BayPiggies meetings
at some other Google locations, IIRC GEarth was mentioned as a
possibility - correct?  Anyone still interested in doing that?

Thanks.  :)

From jjinux at gmail.com  Thu Nov 13 21:46:41 2008
From: jjinux at gmail.com (Shannon -jj Behrens)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 12:46:41 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] OT: Google Earth,
	DejaNews/Groups - Python users? at meeting?
In-Reply-To: <1226586608.14621.1284579743@webmail.messagingengine.com>
References: <1226586608.14621.1284579743@webmail.messagingengine.com>
Message-ID: <c41f67b90811131246i31cb59f0y6da07eb6b42fec9f@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 6:30 AM, john_re <john_re at fastmail.us> wrote:
> I'm interested in speaking with some GE & DN/G people, general questions
> about using these tools.  Anyone know if they are python users?  Know if
> any of them might likely or are often/occasionally at BayPiggies
> meetings?
>
> A few months ago, there was discussion about holding BayPiggies meetings
> at some other Google locations, IIRC GEarth was mentioned as a
> possibility - correct?  Anyone still interested in doing that?
>
> Thanks.  :)

YouTube expressed interest in holding one or two meetings, but since
they were not able to commit to an ongoing engagement, I decided it
would be too disruptive.  My experience in the past with this group is
that it really doesn't like jumping around between locations.

Best Regards,
-jj

-- 
The safest way to do multithreaded programming is to put each thread
in its own process ;)
http://jjinux.blogspot.com/

From hyperneato at gmail.com  Thu Nov 13 22:04:05 2008
From: hyperneato at gmail.com (Isaac)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 13:04:05 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] BayPIGgies meeting Thursday November 13,
	2008: NumPy and SciPy
In-Reply-To: <1226539899.6358.807.camel@ubuntu>
References: <1226539899.6358.807.camel@ubuntu>
Message-ID: <7260654a0811131304l5dc1244dtae5faadf2cb2199b@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Are you folks able to video tape this session? If you are not able to,
I will try harder to make the 2 hour drive from up North today.

-Isaac

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 5:31 PM, jim <jim at well.com> wrote:
>
> BayPIGgies meeting Thursday November 13, 2008:
> NumPy and SciPy
> By Fernando Perez
>
> NumPy and SciPy: how python is becoming the dominant high-level language
> for scientific work, who's using it, what we do with it, what the key
> projects are, where we're headed, what challenges we have, and where
> others can contribute.
>
>
> Tonight's Newbie Nugget is...
> DocTest by Wesley Chun
>
> Documentation and testing are traditionally two areas that
> programmers shy away from. With one simple change, namely doctest
> integration, you can get both in a simplistic manner and improve the
> usability of your code as well as get free testing. That is what makes
> doctest so cool!
>
>
> Location: Google Campus
> Building 40, the Seville room
> (check in at the lobby in bldg 43)
>
>
> bayPIGgies meeting information:
> http://baypiggies.net/new/plone
>
> * Please sign up in advance to have your google access badge ready:
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings
> (no later than close of business on Wednesday.)
>
>
> Agenda
>
> ..... 7:30 PM ...........................
> General hubbub, inventory end-of-meeting announcements,
> any first-minute announcements.
>
>
> ..... 7:35 PM to 7:45 PM ................
> Newbie Nugget: Doctest
> by Wesley Chun
>
>
> ..... 7:45 PM to 8:45 PM ................
> Talk
> by Whom
>
>
> ..... 8:45 PM to 9:00 PM -- After The Talk ................
> Mapping and Random Access
>
> Mapping is a rapid-fire audience announcement of topics
> the announcers are interested in.
>
> Random Access follows immediately to allow follow up
> individually on the announcements and other topics of
> interest.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Baypiggies mailing list
> Baypiggies at python.org
> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies
>

From wescpy at gmail.com  Thu Nov 13 22:11:41 2008
From: wescpy at gmail.com (wesley chun)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 13:11:41 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] BayPIGgies meeting Thursday November 13,
	2008: NumPy and SciPy
In-Reply-To: <7260654a0811131304l5dc1244dtae5faadf2cb2199b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1226539899.6358.807.camel@ubuntu>
	<7260654a0811131304l5dc1244dtae5faadf2cb2199b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <78b3a9580811131311o37d322c4jc75dbbc3d454bc6a@mail.gmail.com>

> Are you folks able to video tape this session? If you are not able to,
> I will try harder to make the 2 hour drive from up North today.

i believe that Google tries to tape each and eventually make them
available, but the timeframes are inconsistent in my experience.

ppl place their rideshare needs on the pre-registration wiki page so
that in case there are like-minded folks, carpooling is better than
multiple drivers all contributing to and fighting rush hour traffic.

cheers,
-- wesley

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
"Python Fundamentals", Prentice Hall, (c)2009
"Python Web Development with Django", Addison Wesley, (c) 2009

wesley.j.chun :: wescpy-at-gmail.com
python training and technical consulting
cyberweb.consulting : silicon valley, ca
http://cyberwebconsulting.com

From jim at well.com  Thu Nov 13 22:17:09 2008
From: jim at well.com (jim)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 13:17:09 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] BayPIGgies meeting Thursday November 13,
	2008:	NumPy and SciPy
In-Reply-To: <78b3a9580811131311o37d322c4jc75dbbc3d454bc6a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1226539899.6358.807.camel@ubuntu>
	<7260654a0811131304l5dc1244dtae5faadf2cb2199b@mail.gmail.com>
	<78b3a9580811131311o37d322c4jc75dbbc3d454bc6a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1226611029.6373.20.camel@ubuntu>


   is there a central location that is used 
for videos of baypiggies meetings or some 
central web page with links to such? 




On Thu, 2008-11-13 at 13:11 -0800, wesley chun wrote:
> > Are you folks able to video tape this session? If you are not able to,
> > I will try harder to make the 2 hour drive from up North today.
> 
> i believe that Google tries to tape each and eventually make them
> available, but the timeframes are inconsistent in my experience.
> 
> ppl place their rideshare needs on the pre-registration wiki page so
> that in case there are like-minded folks, carpooling is better than
> multiple drivers all contributing to and fighting rush hour traffic.
> 
> cheers,
> -- wesley
> 
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> "Python Fundamentals", Prentice Hall, (c)2009
> "Python Web Development with Django", Addison Wesley, (c) 2009
> 
> wesley.j.chun :: wescpy-at-gmail.com
> python training and technical consulting
> cyberweb.consulting : silicon valley, ca
> http://cyberwebconsulting.com
> _______________________________________________
> Baypiggies mailing list
> Baypiggies at python.org
> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies
> 


From jjinux at gmail.com  Thu Nov 13 22:35:31 2008
From: jjinux at gmail.com (Shannon -jj Behrens)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 13:35:31 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] BayPIGgies meeting Thursday November 13,
	2008: NumPy and SciPy
In-Reply-To: <1226611029.6373.20.camel@ubuntu>
References: <1226539899.6358.807.camel@ubuntu>
	<7260654a0811131304l5dc1244dtae5faadf2cb2199b@mail.gmail.com>
	<78b3a9580811131311o37d322c4jc75dbbc3d454bc6a@mail.gmail.com>
	<1226611029.6373.20.camel@ubuntu>
Message-ID: <c41f67b90811131335i56182198ld76ab618a730b0fb@mail.gmail.com>

Google always tapes the meetings, but I haven't seen a meeting
actually make it to Google Video in over a year, unfortunately.  I
wonder if we can write a MapReduce job to find those lost videos ;)

-jj

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 1:17 PM, jim <jim at well.com> wrote:
>
>   is there a central location that is used
> for videos of baypiggies meetings or some
> central web page with links to such?
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 2008-11-13 at 13:11 -0800, wesley chun wrote:
>> > Are you folks able to video tape this session? If you are not able to,
>> > I will try harder to make the 2 hour drive from up North today.
>>
>> i believe that Google tries to tape each and eventually make them
>> available, but the timeframes are inconsistent in my experience.
>>
>> ppl place their rideshare needs on the pre-registration wiki page so
>> that in case there are like-minded folks, carpooling is better than
>> multiple drivers all contributing to and fighting rush hour traffic.
>>
>> cheers,
>> -- wesley
>>
>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>> "Python Fundamentals", Prentice Hall, (c)2009
>> "Python Web Development with Django", Addison Wesley, (c) 2009
>>
>> wesley.j.chun :: wescpy-at-gmail.com
>> python training and technical consulting
>> cyberweb.consulting : silicon valley, ca
>> http://cyberwebconsulting.com
>> _______________________________________________
>> Baypiggies mailing list
>> Baypiggies at python.org
>> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Baypiggies mailing list
> Baypiggies at python.org
> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies
>



-- 
The safest way to do multithreaded programming is to put each thread
in its own process ;)
http://jjinux.blogspot.com/

From aleax at google.com  Thu Nov 13 22:45:39 2008
From: aleax at google.com (Alex Martelli)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 13:45:39 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] BayPIGgies meeting Thursday November 13,
	2008: NumPy 	and SciPy
In-Reply-To: <c41f67b90811131335i56182198ld76ab618a730b0fb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1226539899.6358.807.camel@ubuntu>
	<7260654a0811131304l5dc1244dtae5faadf2cb2199b@mail.gmail.com>
	<78b3a9580811131311o37d322c4jc75dbbc3d454bc6a@mail.gmail.com>
	<1226611029.6373.20.camel@ubuntu>
	<c41f67b90811131335i56182198ld76ab618a730b0fb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55dc209b0811131345p7d5ed29diba54ff8671dcf1e9@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 1:17 PM, jim <jim at well.com> wrote:
>
>   is there a central location that is used
> for videos of baypiggies meetings or some
> central web page with links to such?

I'd expect a video search for baypiggies would show them all, but it
only finds a dozen or so -- ["bay area python" -baypiggies] finds 4
more -- I have no idea where the rest may be hiding.  Leslie, do you
know who we could ask?

Thanks,

Alex


On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Shannon -jj Behrens <jjinux at gmail.com> wrote:
> Google always tapes the meetings, but I haven't seen a meeting
> actually make it to Google Video in over a year, unfortunately.  I
> wonder if we can write a MapReduce job to find those lost videos ;)
>
> -jj
>
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 1:17 PM, jim <jim at well.com> wrote:
>>
>>   is there a central location that is used
>> for videos of baypiggies meetings or some
>> central web page with links to such?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 2008-11-13 at 13:11 -0800, wesley chun wrote:
>>> > Are you folks able to video tape this session? If you are not able to,
>>> > I will try harder to make the 2 hour drive from up North today.
>>>
>>> i believe that Google tries to tape each and eventually make them
>>> available, but the timeframes are inconsistent in my experience.
>>>
>>> ppl place their rideshare needs on the pre-registration wiki page so
>>> that in case there are like-minded folks, carpooling is better than
>>> multiple drivers all contributing to and fighting rush hour traffic.
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> -- wesley
>>>
>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>> "Python Fundamentals", Prentice Hall, (c)2009
>>> "Python Web Development with Django", Addison Wesley, (c) 2009
>>>
>>> wesley.j.chun :: wescpy-at-gmail.com
>>> python training and technical consulting
>>> cyberweb.consulting : silicon valley, ca
>>> http://cyberwebconsulting.com
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Baypiggies mailing list
>>> Baypiggies at python.org
>>> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Baypiggies mailing list
>> Baypiggies at python.org
>> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies
>>
>
>
>
> --
> The safest way to do multithreaded programming is to put each thread
> in its own process ;)
> http://jjinux.blogspot.com/
> _______________________________________________
> Baypiggies mailing list
> Baypiggies at python.org
> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies
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From bdbaddog at gmail.com  Thu Nov 13 22:46:30 2008
From: bdbaddog at gmail.com (William Deegan)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 13:46:30 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] BayPIGgies meeting Thursday November 13,
	2008: NumPy and SciPy
In-Reply-To: <c41f67b90811131335i56182198ld76ab618a730b0fb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1226539899.6358.807.camel@ubuntu>
	<7260654a0811131304l5dc1244dtae5faadf2cb2199b@mail.gmail.com>
	<78b3a9580811131311o37d322c4jc75dbbc3d454bc6a@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <8540148a0811131346m6856dc8w594bb9a3155581f2@mail.gmail.com>

JJ,

I've been pinging Leslie WRT the videos so we could link to them from the
meeting pages on the baypiggies website.

In fact I just sent a ping to her earlier today to see if she's had any
success in locating them.
As soon as I get the links I'll add them on the website and send out an
email.

-Bill

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Shannon -jj Behrens <jjinux at gmail.com>wrote:

> Google always tapes the meetings, but I haven't seen a meeting
> actually make it to Google Video in over a year, unfortunately.  I
> wonder if we can write a MapReduce job to find those lost videos ;)
>
> -jj
>
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 1:17 PM, jim <jim at well.com> wrote:
> >
> >   is there a central location that is used
> > for videos of baypiggies meetings or some
> > central web page with links to such?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 2008-11-13 at 13:11 -0800, wesley chun wrote:
> >> > Are you folks able to video tape this session? If you are not able to,
> >> > I will try harder to make the 2 hour drive from up North today.
> >>
> >> i believe that Google tries to tape each and eventually make them
> >> available, but the timeframes are inconsistent in my experience.
> >>
> >> ppl place their rideshare needs on the pre-registration wiki page so
> >> that in case there are like-minded folks, carpooling is better than
> >> multiple drivers all contributing to and fighting rush hour traffic.
> >>
> >> cheers,
> >> -- wesley
> >>
> >> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> >> "Python Fundamentals", Prentice Hall, (c)2009
> >> "Python Web Development with Django", Addison Wesley, (c) 2009
> >>
> >> wesley.j.chun :: wescpy-at-gmail.com
> >> python training and technical consulting
> >> cyberweb.consulting : silicon valley, ca
> >> http://cyberwebconsulting.com
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Baypiggies mailing list
> >> Baypiggies at python.org
> >> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies
> >>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Baypiggies mailing list
> > Baypiggies at python.org
> > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies
> >
>
>
>
> --
> The safest way to do multithreaded programming is to put each thread
> in its own process ;)
> http://jjinux.blogspot.com/
> _______________________________________________
> Baypiggies mailing list
> Baypiggies at python.org
> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
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From annaraven at gmail.com  Fri Nov 14 06:44:40 2008
From: annaraven at gmail.com (Anna Ravenscroft)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 21:44:40 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Fwd: [opensource] Stanford Open Source Lab (Un)
	Conference this friday 12-7
In-Reply-To: <491A1C9E.5010108@stanford.edu>
References: <491A1C9E.5010108@stanford.edu>
Message-ID: <cb361a610811132144o1908c5f2gb70c7555161b375b@mail.gmail.com>

On the conference:


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

The Stanford Open Source Lab (Un) Conference
happens this Friday, November 14, 12- 6 p.m. at Wallenberg Hall.

Come learn about open source @ Stanford
Come show off your open source project
Sign up for speaker slots at Noon
Student projects especially encouraged!

For more information, visit: http://opensource.stanford.edu
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=32417735793

Sessions will include:

Rob Lucas - Open Journal Systems
Joy P. Ku - Simbios/open access in biocomputation research
Chris Ridder - Center for Internet and Society: OS licenses 101
Vladimir Bacvanski - inferData: Web 2.0, AJAX, other open source
technologies
Kieran Lal - Drupal/Acquia
Zack Rosen - Chapter3: Drupal, the Howard Dean campaign, Non profits
Mike Linkswayer - Creative Commons
Raj Kumar, Internet Archive: The Importance of Open Source Books.
Tracey Jaquith, Internet Archive - new Ogg Theora video support in
Firefox 3.1, and ...
Ed Chi, PARC - Who edits wikipedia
Henrik Bennetsen, Stanford Humanities Lab - Open discussion about the
future of the Stanford Open Source Lab
John Bickar, Irina Zaks, OSL - Drupal training 101
Mike Krieger, Stanford student - Django courseapp
Alex Kozak, Ben Moskowitz, UC Berkeley students - Students for Free
Culture
Dave Cohen - Facebook for Drupal


cordially,
Anna
--
More than two centuries later: a government of the people, by the people,
for the people, has not perished from this earth!
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From wescpy at gmail.com  Fri Nov 14 08:32:58 2008
From: wescpy at gmail.com (wesley chun)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 23:32:58 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] doctest slides?
Message-ID: <78b3a9580811132332l479da043n85af9970c31d9808@mail.gmail.com>

if anyone wants a PDF of the slides i used for newbie nuggets tonite,
just reply back to me privately.

thx,
-wesley
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
"Core Python Programming", Prentice Hall, (c)2007,2001
"Python Fundamentals", Prentice Hall, (c) 2009
    http://corepython.com

wesley.j.chun :: wescpy-at-gmail.com
python training and technical consulting
cyberweb.consulting : silicon valley, ca
http://cyberwebconsulting.com

From bdbaddog at gmail.com  Fri Nov 14 08:35:52 2008
From: bdbaddog at gmail.com (William Deegan)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 23:35:52 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] doctest slides?
In-Reply-To: <78b3a9580811132332l479da043n85af9970c31d9808@mail.gmail.com>
References: <78b3a9580811132332l479da043n85af9970c31d9808@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8540148a0811132335u78b0a3can44181a29b5ea982@mail.gmail.com>

Wesley,

Would you be o.k. with posting them on the baypiggies site?

-Bill

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 11:32 PM, wesley chun <wescpy at gmail.com> wrote:

> if anyone wants a PDF of the slides i used for newbie nuggets tonite,
> just reply back to me privately.
>
> thx,
> -wesley
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> "Core Python Programming", Prentice Hall, (c)2007,2001
> "Python Fundamentals", Prentice Hall, (c) 2009
>    http://corepython.com
>
> wesley.j.chun :: wescpy-at-gmail.com
> python training and technical consulting
> cyberweb.consulting : silicon valley, ca
> http://cyberwebconsulting.com
> _______________________________________________
> Baypiggies mailing list
> Baypiggies at python.org
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From jim at well.com  Fri Nov 14 16:59:53 2008
From: jim at well.com (jim)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 07:59:53 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] doctest slides?
In-Reply-To: <78b3a9580811132332l479da043n85af9970c31d9808@mail.gmail.com>
References: <78b3a9580811132332l479da043n85af9970c31d9808@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1226678393.6373.72.camel@ubuntu>


me, please ( jim at well.com ) 
that was excellent! 

On Thu, 2008-11-13 at 23:32 -0800, wesley chun wrote:
> if anyone wants a PDF of the slides i used for newbie nuggets tonite,
> just reply back to me privately.
> 
> thx,
> -wesley
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> "Core Python Programming", Prentice Hall, (c)2007,2001
> "Python Fundamentals", Prentice Hall, (c) 2009
>     http://corepython.com
> 
> wesley.j.chun :: wescpy-at-gmail.com
> python training and technical consulting
> cyberweb.consulting : silicon valley, ca
> http://cyberwebconsulting.com
> _______________________________________________
> Baypiggies mailing list
> Baypiggies at python.org
> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies
> 


From aleaxit at gmail.com  Sat Nov 15 01:07:29 2008
From: aleaxit at gmail.com (Alex Martelli)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:07:29 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] introspecting for generator vs non-generator function
Message-ID: <e8a0972d0811141607w1250d84aub5f2d94fc85dced@mail.gmail.com>

Just in case anybody's interested, please see
http://aleaxit.blogspot.com/2008/11/python-introspecting-for-generator-vs.html
.


Alex

From fperez.net at gmail.com  Sat Nov 15 01:19:00 2008
From: fperez.net at gmail.com (Fernando Perez)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:19:00 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Slides from my talk last night on scientific computing
Message-ID: <db6b5ecc0811141619p5bacb2eemc0885017e85eb8f8@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

thanks to those who attended for your comments.  As promised, here are
the slides:

https://cirl.berkeley.edu/fperez/talks/0811_baypig_scipy.pdf

I actually cleaned them up a bit and added some material I intended to
have, but for which I ran out of time while preparing yesterday.  I've
also properly credited all third-party images I used.

Regards,

f

From matt at matt-good.net  Sat Nov 15 04:44:12 2008
From: matt at matt-good.net (Matt Good)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:44:12 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] introspecting for generator vs non-generator
	function
In-Reply-To: <e8a0972d0811141607w1250d84aub5f2d94fc85dced@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e8a0972d0811141607w1250d84aub5f2d94fc85dced@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <401A6C7D-52A5-4DC2-8620-94058396BD3F@matt-good.net>

On Nov 14, 2008, at 4:07 PM, Alex Martelli wrote:

> Just in case anybody's interested, please see
> http://aleaxit.blogspot.com/2008/11/python-introspecting-for-generator-vs.html

There's a co_flags for that:
"The following flag bits are defined for co_flags: ... bit 0x20 is set  
if the function is a generator."

So:
def is_generator(func):
   return bool(func.func_code.co_flags & 0x20)

I also tried posting a comment, but maybe it's awaiting moderation.

-- Matt

From aleaxit at gmail.com  Sat Nov 15 05:04:48 2008
From: aleaxit at gmail.com (Alex Martelli)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:04:48 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] introspecting for generator vs non-generator
	function
In-Reply-To: <401A6C7D-52A5-4DC2-8620-94058396BD3F@matt-good.net>
References: <e8a0972d0811141607w1250d84aub5f2d94fc85dced@mail.gmail.com>
	<401A6C7D-52A5-4DC2-8620-94058396BD3F@matt-good.net>
Message-ID: <e8a0972d0811142004j1d9b45c6tcd9fb2a86b08a12@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 7:44 PM, Matt Good <matt at matt-good.net> wrote:
> On Nov 14, 2008, at 4:07 PM, Alex Martelli wrote:
>
>> Just in case anybody's interested, please see
>>
>> http://aleaxit.blogspot.com/2008/11/python-introspecting-for-generator-vs.html
>
> There's a co_flags for that:
> "The following flag bits are defined for co_flags: ... bit 0x20 is set if
> the function is a generator."
>
> So:
> def is_generator(func):
>  return bool(func.func_code.co_flags & 0x20)
>
> I also tried posting a comment, but maybe it's awaiting moderation.

Yes it was -- I just approved it.  Thanks!  If there's one thing that
makes me even happier than teaching, it's learning!-)

Alex

From wescpy at gmail.com  Sat Nov 15 06:23:36 2008
From: wescpy at gmail.com (wesley chun)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 21:23:36 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] introspecting for generator vs non-generator
	function
In-Reply-To: <e8a0972d0811142004j1d9b45c6tcd9fb2a86b08a12@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e8a0972d0811141607w1250d84aub5f2d94fc85dced@mail.gmail.com>
	<401A6C7D-52A5-4DC2-8620-94058396BD3F@matt-good.net>
	<e8a0972d0811142004j1d9b45c6tcd9fb2a86b08a12@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <78b3a9580811142123v4cb66ee0ufd6f6408fc21abda@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Alex Martelli <aleaxit at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 7:44 PM, Matt Good <matt at matt-good.net> wrote:
>> There's a co_flags for that:
>> "The following flag bits are defined for co_flags: ... bit 0x20 is set if
>> the function is a generator."
>>
>> So:
>> def is_generator(func):
>>  return bool(func.func_code.co_flags & 0x20)
>
> Yes it was -- I just approved it.  Thanks!  If there's one thing that
> makes me even happier than teaching, it's learning!-)


i have to agree with alex... that was a great find matt!  for those
interested in exploring further where he found it, it's in the 2.5.2
docs:

http://www.python.org/doc/2.5.2/ref/types.html
look for the "Internal Types" -> "Code Objects" section where it reads
as follows:

"The following flag bits are defined for co_flags: bit 0x04 is set if
the function uses the "*arguments" syntax to accept an arbitrary
number of positional arguments; bit 0x08 is set if the function uses
the "**keywords" syntax to accept arbitrary keyword arguments; bit
0x20 is set if the function is a generator."

cheers,
-- wesley
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
"Core Python Programming", Prentice Hall, (c)2007,2001
"Python Fundamentals", Prentice Hall, (c)2009
    http://corepython.com

"Python Web Development with Django", Addison Wesley, (c) 2009
http://withdjango.com

wesley.j.chun :: wescpy-at-gmail.com
python training and technical consulting
cyberweb.consulting : silicon valley, ca
http://cyberwebconsulting.com

From bdbaddog at gmail.com  Sat Nov 15 06:49:40 2008
From: bdbaddog at gmail.com (William Deegan)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 21:49:40 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Wesley Chun's Doctest Slides are now on Baypiggies
	Website
Message-ID: <8540148a0811142149s58efbd8cod249312785508e8b@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings,

You'll find them linked in the event:
http://baypiggies.net/new/plone/eventfolder/baypiggies-meeting-november-13-2008

Right under the description of Wesley's presention is : Presentation: Get
Slides Here

Or you can click
this<http://baypiggies.net/new/plone/eventfolder/doctest2bw.pdf>
.

-Bill
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From matt at matt-good.net  Sat Nov 15 20:01:55 2008
From: matt at matt-good.net (Matt Good)
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 11:01:55 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] introspecting for generator vs non-generator
	function
In-Reply-To: <78b3a9580811142123v4cb66ee0ufd6f6408fc21abda@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e8a0972d0811141607w1250d84aub5f2d94fc85dced@mail.gmail.com>
	<401A6C7D-52A5-4DC2-8620-94058396BD3F@matt-good.net>
	<e8a0972d0811142004j1d9b45c6tcd9fb2a86b08a12@mail.gmail.com>
	<78b3a9580811142123v4cb66ee0ufd6f6408fc21abda@mail.gmail.com>
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On Nov 14, 2008, at 9:23 PM, wesley chun wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Alex Martelli <aleaxit at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 7:44 PM, Matt Good <matt at matt-good.net>  
>> wrote:
>>> There's a co_flags for that:
>>> "The following flag bits are defined for co_flags: ... bit 0x20 is  
>>> set if
>>> the function is a generator."
>>>
>>> So:
>>> def is_generator(func):
>>> return bool(func.func_code.co_flags & 0x20)
>>
>> Yes it was -- I just approved it.  Thanks!  If there's one thing that
>> makes me even happier than teaching, it's learning!-)
>
>
> i have to agree with alex... that was a great find matt!  for those
> interested in exploring further where he found it, it's in the 2.5.2
> docs:

Thanks.  I'll admit that I didn't know that one off the top of my  
head, so I just did a quick dump of attributes that differed between  
the two:

for k in dir(f.func_code):
   if getattr(f.func_code, k, None) != getattr(g.func_code, k, None):
     print k

When I saw co_flags I remembered the bit about the generator flag from  
looking into the varargs flags not too long ago.

HTH someone else digging into these esoteric bits of the language :)

-- Matt

From mrjean1 at gmail.com  Sat Nov 15 23:11:28 2008
From: mrjean1 at gmail.com (Jean Brouwers)
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 14:11:28 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] introspecting for generator vs non-generator
	function
In-Reply-To: <1FE8DD2F-08B9-4A46-A1C7-4D2830DA7D93@matt-good.net>
References: <e8a0972d0811141607w1250d84aub5f2d94fc85dced@mail.gmail.com>
	<401A6C7D-52A5-4DC2-8620-94058396BD3F@matt-good.net>
	<e8a0972d0811142004j1d9b45c6tcd9fb2a86b08a12@mail.gmail.com>
	<78b3a9580811142123v4cb66ee0ufd6f6408fc21abda@mail.gmail.com>
	<1FE8DD2F-08B9-4A46-A1C7-4D2830DA7D93@matt-good.net>
Message-ID: <39a48f50811151411i50cb9a02jba199edfb669403a@mail.gmail.com>

Two more (less;-) esoteric bits:
- Function types have a 'func_code' attribute in Python 2.x.  That attribute
is called '__code__'  in Python 3.0.

- There are 'func_code' resp. '__code__' objects which do not have a
'co_flags' attribute, notably a 'getset_descriptor'.

Attached is an attempt to handle those.

HTH too,

/Jean Brouwers


On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Matt Good <matt at matt-good.net> wrote:

> On Nov 14, 2008, at 9:23 PM, wesley chun wrote:
>
>  On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Alex Martelli <aleaxit at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 7:44 PM, Matt Good <matt at matt-good.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> There's a co_flags for that:
>>>> "The following flag bits are defined for co_flags: ... bit 0x20 is set
>>>> if
>>>> the function is a generator."
>>>>
>>>> So:
>>>> def is_generator(func):
>>>> return bool(func.func_code.co_flags & 0x20)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes it was -- I just approved it.  Thanks!  If there's one thing that
>>> makes me even happier than teaching, it's learning!-)
>>>
>>
>>
>> i have to agree with alex... that was a great find matt!  for those
>> interested in exploring further where he found it, it's in the 2.5.2
>> docs:
>>
>
> Thanks.  I'll admit that I didn't know that one off the top of my head, so
> I just did a quick dump of attributes that differed between the two:
>
> for k in dir(f.func_code):
>  if getattr(f.func_code, k, None) != getattr(g.func_code, k, None):
>    print k
>
> When I saw co_flags I remembered the bit about the generator flag from
> looking into the varargs flags not too long ago.
>
> HTH someone else digging into these esoteric bits of the language :)
>
> -- Matt
>
> _______________________________________________
> Baypiggies mailing list
> Baypiggies at python.org
> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
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From AFife at untangle.com  Tue Nov 18 01:10:02 2008
From: AFife at untangle.com (Andrew Fife)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:10:02 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] OpenMoko @ BALUG Tomorrow
Message-ID: <9347C2AED406124287DD2A007EB15B13018394A238@EXCHANGE.Untangle.local>

Hi Folks:



Sean Moss-Pultz will be speaking at BALUG on tomorrow.  Sean

is the CEO and founder of The OpenMoko Project, which makes an open

source, linux-based cell phone called the NEO FreeRunner.  More info

on Sean, OpenMoko and the Neo FreeRunner at these links:



http://moss-pultz.com/

http://www.openmoko.com/

http://www.openmoko.com/product.html



We're expecting a great crowd, so if you'd like to join us please RSVP:



  RSVP at balug.org



**Why RSVP??**



Well, don't worry we won't turn you away, but the RSVPs really help the

Four Seas Restaurant plan the meal and they ensure that we're able to eat

upstairs in the private banquet room.  Bottomline:  if we don't have 40

RSVPs the day before the meeting, we don't get the banquet room.



Meeting Details...



  6:30pm

  November 18th, 2008 (Tomorrow)



  Four Seas Restaurant

  731 Grant Ave.

  San Francisco, CA 94108

  Easy $5 PARKING:  Portsmouth Square Garage at 733 Kearny



Cost: The meetings are always free, but dinner is $13



--

Andrew Fife

Untangle - The Open Source Network Gateway

www.untangle.com/download



650.425.3327 desk

415.806.6028 cell


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From donal at google.com  Thu Nov 20 20:47:13 2008
From: donal at google.com (Donal Mountain)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:47:13 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Google reaching out to App Engine developers
Message-ID: <9c9c4f1e0811201147i5ef2ebf0l8f97665d073f8069@mail.gmail.com>

Hi there,

I a User Experience Researcher at Google, helping the App Engine team
better understand the needs of our Developer users. If you use App
Engine and would like to share your experiences with us, read our blog
post (below) for more information on how to participate in our
upcoming series of developer field visits.

Thanks!

-- Donal Mountain, Google.


-------------------------

Blog Post: http://googleappengine.blogspot.com/2008/11/attention-bay-area-developers.html


Attention Bay Area developers: participate in our developer study!
Posted by Donal Mountain, App Engine Team

Starting later this year the App Engine team will be getting out of
the office for a series of developer visits.

We want to come to your home or office (or wherever you use App
Engine), and look over your shoulder so that we can learn first-hand
about how you use our product. Our goal is to see how App Engine fits
into your development process. We want to learn what's working for you
and what's frustrating you.

The initial round of visits will be to developers in the San Francisco
Bay Area, and then in the new year we will visit developers elsewhere
in the US. If you would like to participate, please take a few minutes
to complete this sign-up form: Sign up:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=pUR-0ZQ-oui9j1beVT7R7Zg
That link also contains information about exactly what's involved in
the field visit. Developers who we end up visiting will receive $150
compensation. For questions and updates check the App Engine
discussion group:
http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/43e2239957e29872

We look forward to meeting as many of you as possible!

From dave at krondo.com  Wed Nov 26 03:42:42 2008
From: dave at krondo.com (Dave Peticolas)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:42:42 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Python web job at Lucasfilm
Message-ID: <492CB7A2.9020701@krondo.com>

Software Engineer (Web Technologies)

Summary:

Lucasfilm is seeking a software engineer with strong Python skills to
develop applications for an existing proprietary content management
system.  This CMS, known as LOIS, stores technical documentation
authored and for use by artists, engineers, and producers at
Industrial Light + Magic, Lucasfilm Animation, Lucasfilm Animation
Singapore, and LucasArts.  It is Lucasfilm's internal hub for sharing
and leveraging cutting-edge proprietary tools and techniques.

This position will offer the opportunity to discover, develop, and
expand knowledge-sharing systems in a dynamic, diverse, and
collaborative environment.


Primary Responsibilities:

* Design and develop Python applications to expand and enhance the
   functionality of LOIS.

* Design and implement interfaces to optimize the authoring and
   reading of documentation.

* Develop interfaces for personalized data consumption.

* Develop features for streaming video content.

* Solicit user feedback to inform development decisions.

* Research and recommend new technologies to make system improvements.

* Integrate various software applications including open-source and
   internally developed applications.

* Interact with authors and users to support best practices and solve
   technical issues.

* Respond to system errors and failures.


Education, Experience and Skills Required:

* 4-5 years minimum development experience with Python, UNIX, DOM,
   HTML, CSS, and Javascript.

* Python Web frameworks are a big plus: Django, TurboGears, Pylons,
   mod_python, mod_wsgi, etc.

* Javascript Frameworks a plus: jQuery, YUI, dojo, etc.

* Familiarity with Linux, Mac, PC.

* Strong knowledge of cross browser compatibility.

* Relational database experience (Oracle, Postgresql and SQL) preferred.

* Knowledge of content management principles and their application to
   content collection, management and publication.

* Proven experience with information design.

* Bachelor's degree or above in Computer Science preferred.

* Exceptional writing, editing, planning, and organizational skills
   strongly preferred.

* Ability to work effectively with little supervision, and focus
   project efforts to hit milestones.

* Strong interpersonal skills; ability to effectively communicate and
   contribute in a team environment.


To submit a resume go to:

https://www.lucasfilm.apply2jobs.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=mExternal.showJob&RID=910&CurrentPage=1

From glaw at slide.com  Thu Nov 27 02:19:56 2008
From: glaw at slide.com (Grace Law)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 17:19:56 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Ben Bangert on Dec 3
Message-ID: <475BFC79-AB58-4D41-91A3-6F0ADB405CA9@slide.com>

Hi baypiggies,

Ben Bangert, creator of Pylons will be speaking on Pylons and WSGI on  
Dec 3 at 7p in SF, easy parking near 301 Brannan.

http://www.meetup.com/sfpython/

Come and network with other python developers.  Please RSVP if you  
are interested in coming so we know how much food to order.

Cheers,

Grace


From charles.merriam at gmail.com  Thu Nov 27 02:34:29 2008
From: charles.merriam at gmail.com (Charles Merriam)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 17:34:29 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Ben Bangert on Dec 3
In-Reply-To: <475BFC79-AB58-4D41-91A3-6F0ADB405CA9@slide.com>
References: <475BFC79-AB58-4D41-91A3-6F0ADB405CA9@slide.com>
Message-ID: <b8c6f6c40811261734g23ae5b1at76c3853e3b1c3d53@mail.gmail.com>

Is there a planned carpool?   Maybe leaving from Neto Cafe around 5:45?

On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Grace Law <glaw at slide.com> wrote:
> Hi baypiggies,
>
> Ben Bangert, creator of Pylons will be speaking on Pylons and WSGI on Dec 3
> at 7p in SF, easy parking near 301 Brannan.
>
> http://www.meetup.com/sfpython/
>
> Come and network with other python developers.  Please RSVP if you are
> interested in coming so we know how much food to order.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Grace
>
> ___________e a ____________________________________
> Baypiggies mailing list
> Baypiggies at python.org
> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies
>

From glaw at slide.com  Thu Nov 27 02:45:20 2008
From: glaw at slide.com (Grace Law)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 17:45:20 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Ben Bangert on Dec 3
In-Reply-To: <b8c6f6c40811261734g23ae5b1at76c3853e3b1c3d53@mail.gmail.com>
References: <475BFC79-AB58-4D41-91A3-6F0ADB405CA9@slide.com>
	<b8c6f6c40811261734g23ae5b1at76c3853e3b1c3d53@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49AA123E-637D-44FD-BE06-C30337AB8E29@slide.com>

Great question!  Not that I know of, yet.   From the meetup page, you  
can send an email to the members, or start a discussion about  
carpooling.  Glen Jarvis is coming, I think he will be coming from  
the peninsular.

Slide's office is about 2 blocks from Cal train ~ 10 minutes walk.

Hope that helps.

Grace

On Nov 26, 2008, at 5:34 PM, Charles Merriam wrote:

> Is there a planned carpool?   Maybe leaving from Neto Cafe around  
> 5:45?
>
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Grace Law <glaw at slide.com> wrote:
>> Hi baypiggies,
>>
>> Ben Bangert, creator of Pylons will be speaking on Pylons and WSGI  
>> on Dec 3
>> at 7p in SF, easy parking near 301 Brannan.
>>
>> http://www.meetup.com/sfpython/
>>
>> Come and network with other python developers.  Please RSVP if you  
>> are
>> interested in coming so we know how much food to order.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Grace
>>
>> ___________e a ____________________________________
>> Baypiggies mailing list
>> Baypiggies at python.org
>> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies
>>


From glen at glenjarvis.com  Thu Nov 27 02:52:54 2008
From: glen at glenjarvis.com (Glen Jarvis)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 17:52:54 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Ben Bangert on Dec 3
In-Reply-To: <49AA123E-637D-44FD-BE06-C30337AB8E29@slide.com>
References: <475BFC79-AB58-4D41-91A3-6F0ADB405CA9@slide.com>
	<b8c6f6c40811261734g23ae5b1at76c3853e3b1c3d53@mail.gmail.com>
	<49AA123E-637D-44FD-BE06-C30337AB8E29@slide.com>
Message-ID: <D48BA301-3BB2-4D6D-8FB5-ABF5E9FE858B@glenjarvis.com>

Actually, I live in the city (SF)... And, I usually take public  
transportation. Slide's  quick bus ride away for me...

Cheers,


Glen

On Nov 26, 2008, at 5:45 PM, Grace Law wrote:

> Great question!  Not that I know of, yet.   From the meetup page,  
> you can send an email to the members, or start a discussion about  
> carpooling.  Glen Jarvis is coming, I think he will be coming from  
> the peninsular.
>
> Slide's office is about 2 blocks from Cal train ~ 10 minutes walk.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Grace


From sriram.thaiyar at gmail.com  Thu Nov 27 09:12:59 2008
From: sriram.thaiyar at gmail.com (Sriram Thaiyar)
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 00:12:59 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] py.edit.js -- a simple python editor in javascript
Message-ID: <3d767a450811270012u2f3dd4c9n8b7b7ad887aa9a3a@mail.gmail.com>

I thought people here might be interested
in a simple, lightweight Python "editor" written in Javascript.
Something to use when blogging or replying to comments.

Its just a proof-of-concept -- something I've had rolling in my head
for a while.

http://py-edit-js.appspot.com/

Features:
  - simplistic auto indent/dedent of lines
  - can output as html, text
  - bookmarklet mode - opens a mini-editor within the current page
  - spaces at the beginning of a line, dedents the next line by that
    many blocks -- an easy way to close blocks.

Bugs:
  - sometimes the Javascript Bookmarklet doesn't close, when the user
    tries to close it

I've tested it with Safari & Firefox under OS X.

-sri

From jjinux at gmail.com  Thu Nov 27 12:26:57 2008
From: jjinux at gmail.com (Shannon -jj Behrens)
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 03:26:57 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Fwd: CorePy 1.0 Release (x86, Cell BE, BSD!)
In-Reply-To: <134843.52913.qm@web111202.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <134843.52913.qm@web111202.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <c41f67b90811270326s2fc23b18ra07b28ea1f758ef6@mail.gmail.com>

This is crazy!

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Chris Mueller <cmueller_dev at yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 7:45 PM
Subject: CorePy 1.0 Release (x86, Cell BE, BSD!)
To: python-announce-list at python.org



Announcing CorePy 1.0 - http://www.corepy.org

We are pleased to announce the latest release of CorePy. CorePy is a
complete system for developing machine-level programs in Python.
CorePy lets developers build and execute assembly-level programs
interactively from the Python command prompt, embed them directly in
Python applications, or export them to standard assembly languages.

CorePy's straightforward APIs enable the creation of complex,
high-performance applications that take advantage of processor
features usually inaccessible from high-level scripting languages,
such as multi-core execution and vector instruction sets (SSE, VMX,
SPU).

This version addresses the two most frequently asked questions about
CorePy:

1) Does CorePy support x86 processors?
   Yes! CorePy now has extensive support for 32/64-bit x86 and SSE
   ISAs on Linux and OS X*.

2) Is CorePy Open Source?
   Yes!  CorePy now uses the standard BSD license.

Of course, CorePy still supports PowerPC and Cell BE SPU processors.
In fact, for this release, the Cell run-time was redesigned from the
ground up to remove the dependency on IBM's libspe and now uses the
system-level interfaces to work directly with the SPUs (and, CorePy is
still the most fun way to program the PS3).

CorePy is written almost entirely in Python.  Its run-time system
does not rely on any external compilers or assemblers.

If you have the need to write tight, fast code from Python, want
to demystify machine-level code generation, or just miss the good-old
days of assembly hacking, check out CorePy!

And, if you don't believe us, here's our favorite user quote:

"CorePy makes assembly fun again!"


__credits__ = """
  CorePy is developed by Chris Mueller, Andrew Friedley, and Ben
  Martin and is supported by the Open Systems Lab at Indiana
  University.

  Chris can be reached at cmueller[underscore]dev[at]yahoo[dot]com.
"""

__footnote__ = """
  *Any volunteers for a Windows port? :)
"""




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