[Baypiggies] [JOB] job posting policy

Stephen McInerney spmcinerney at hotmail.com
Sat Aug 8 21:41:20 CEST 2009

To be clear, my vote was +1, with these changes:
- must put '[JOB]' in subject line

- must clearly state how Pythonic a job is/isn't, avoid boilerplate

- should describe client company's profile e.g. "pre-IPO/post-IPO/second-round startup with n employees" 



From: spmcinerney at hotmail.com
To: baypiggies at python.org
Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 12:37:46 -0700
CC: beau at open-source-staffing.com
Subject: Re: [Baypiggies] [JOB] job posting policy

Regardless whether or not the time has come for a separate
'baypiggies-jobs' list (personally I think it is), let's at least make sure
to require [JOB] is in the subject line.
Beau's postings were good and clear and should be allowed.
Yes, it would be nice if there was more description of the company - see below.
The volume of allowable job postings depends on how Pythonic we say a job
needs to be, and sometimes the job req is unclear of intentionally vague, and
sometimes recruiters get given a req like that, which can cause confusion.
Some companies are notorious for putting meaningless boilerplate like:
"Familiarity with a scripting language (PERL, Python, Tcl) is preferred"
so that 100% of their ads, from techpubs all the way to architect, turn up in
searches on 'Python'.
Two telltale things are when such boilerplate appears towards the end rather
than beginning, and is "desired" or "preferred" rather than "required" or necessary.
Also as to recruiters vs direct, as the economy gets worse, more and more
companies use recruiters as the first-line in sourcing and filtering the
thousands of resumes they get for every position. Basically nobody does direct
cold application any more, in reality. So I suggest we become more relaxed about
known-reputable Pythonic recruiters, and for the rest we make our rules clear,
and educate them gently if they post in error.
Remember that many of our members are unemployed or underemployed.
As to requiring recruiters to describe the client a bit without revealing their
identity, it's useful to require something like "pre-IPO/post-IPO/second-round startup with n employees", should we require that?
Hope this helps,

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