[Baypiggies] Finding work - Company: Keas (S.F.)

[elan.martinez at gmail.com]

I don't doubt it jj! (Et al.) I hope the tone of my replies weren't misread....again!!!;-).  I'm right there with you all, some of those pioneering "old-timers" some with three letter abbreviated names were my pals too.  Having worked on several sides of the table, I know all to well of Rodericks complaints.  Its hasn't happened yet with me, knock on wood, but I'm always on alert and ready to "educate" hiring managers if necessary.  As we all know talent comes in all shapes, sizes and in diminishing numbers at that, and so those who can't recognize this and don't evaluate with a blank slate and open mind are doomed! :-). 

Good weekends to you all!
.   
E.


------Original Message------
From: Shannon -jj Behrens
To: Elan Martinez
Cc: Roderick Llewellyn
Cc: baypiggies at python.org
Sent: Jun 6, 2009 11:04
Subject: Re: [Baypiggies] Finding work - Company: Keas (S.F.)

To be clear, any company would be *lucky* to find an ol' timer like
Roderick.  Some of the older members in our group such as Roderick,
Mike Cheponis, Alex, and many of the others helped *define* the
computer industry.  The actually *did* the stuff that I only read
about.

Actually, me and Mike have a disagreement on this subject.  Mike said,
"I'll be too old to code when I can no longer type C-x C-s."  I
retorted, "I'll be too old when I can no longer type :w".  My guess is
that I'll be coding longer than Mike since ":w" is much easier to type
;)

-jj

On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 10:01 AM,  <elan.martinez at gmail.com> wrote:
> Sorry, last comment.... but just so you are clear, I was describing the environment not the requirements.  Perhaps there is a better way of saying that there are people there of all ages and colors with the common thread being exuberant spirit, etc., and sorry if my descriptive skills weren't adequate but I  think you misread what I wrote.
>
> Cheers,
> E.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Roderick Llewellyn" <roderick at sanfransystems.com>
>
> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 08:33:27
> To: <baypiggies at python.org>
> Subject: [Baypiggies] Finding work - Company: Keas (S.F.)
>
>
> I'm curious what the part of the post that says that Keas is looking for
> people who are "young-ish"/or young at heart means. I've already encountered
> in the computer industry a lot of age discrimination. You all should know
> that it is illegal. It is also immoral, and is no different from racism, or
> sexism, or any other method of turning people down for any reason other than
> their abilities. Older people need work too! What would you all think if
> Keas said they're looking for people who are "white-ish"? Companies get away
> with it because it is very hard to prove in court. Is this company putting
> such a policy in writing? Does their statement of what they're looking for
> mean that, for example, since I'm not a GenX, I have no chance whatsoever of
> being hired there, regardless of my programming ability?
>
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