[Baypiggies] Django CMS or Plone ?

Donna Snow donnamsnow at gmail.com
Thu Mar 12 23:13:40 CET 2009


Ah yes, Glen is right. I am not a python programmer but have been using
Plone since 2002.

>From what I hear, Django is much better at tying into a relational database
and if you want something clean and light, Django is it. Lots of fellow
Plonistas also work with Django.

Plone on the other hand comes with everything you need, security,
membership, workflow, cms functions, and the ability to create more
functionality through product creation. Plone is not easy to learn for the
integrator/customizer . Plone is NOT good for social networking type stuff
(unless you somehow connect to another application for the social networking
stuff).At least right now it's not.

Some other up and coming zope type apps:

Try repoze (http://www.repoze.org), it's a wsgi based application using zope
and it does have a Plone "layer" you can add. I'm actually starting to
experiment with repoze as Plone 4 will be very ajaxy (move elements of your
page in the browser without going back to the server) and definitely more
wsgi so you can incorporate other python layers into Zope/Plone (ie you will
be able to add a word press layer or non-zope ecommerce solution to your
zope app - as long as it's a python egg). Zope/Plone has been very "closed"
for a long time but we are moving towards allowing cross-app integration in
the next year or so.

Grok (http://grok.zope.org/) is another good one to try...

and yeah I really need to learn python lol. I've gotten away with not
knowing it for 7 years but it's time to buckle down and learn this because I
anticipate many more years in Open Source for this old lady :-P

Best Regards,
Donna M Snow, Principal
C Squared Enterprises
illuminating your path to Open Source

On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Glen Jarvis <glen at glenjarvis.com> wrote:

>  A friend of mine is starting up a community e-zine.  He is currently using
>> Joomla (PHP based CMS).  Unfortunately he knows nothing of
>> PHP/HTML/JavaScript, etc.  He has come to me multiple times with questions.
>>  I know enough to be helpful, but have zero interest in spending any more
>> time in Joomla.  As I've been sucked into his project as some sort of tech
>> adviser and its still early enough that it wont be TOO painful of a switch,
>> I would like to move the project to a python based CMS.
> If a Python based CMS is what you're looking for, then I think Plone is
> your best option. I know little of Plone or it's underlying Zope
> architecture. However, I've had this same query time and again from
> customers myself. Plone does seem to be the fastest development and the
> product that best meets your needs. The problems, however, are that you need
> someone who knows enough about Plone architecture to do advise or do
> technical work. (There are some pretty good books out there if you have the
> time to dedicate to learning Plone yourself). Also know there have been some
> necessary backward-incompatible code rewrites that have fragmented the
> technical user base a little (IMHO). But, if you're starting a new project -
> in a new version - this shouldn't be much of an issue.
> You know the person who would be able to help you? Donna Snow. She's also a
> BayPIGgie. She's not a Python programmer, but is a Plone Skinner. Yet, she's
> being doing Plone quite a while -- long enough to build real relationships
> with Plone developers. She's a good contact to get you started on what you
> want.
>  Is there a decent CMS Django application or should I just go with Plone?
> I *believe* (but could well be mistaken) that there's a CMS equivalent in
> the Pylons space. I believe that knowledge came from a technical
> presentation Charles gave a year ago (Buzzwords). But, I could be mistaken
> and Pylons may, or may not, be overkill depending upon your customer's
> needs. As far as I know, there is no decent CMS for Django. If you (or
> anyone reading) find that I'm wrong here, please let me know since I get
> this question a lot myself.
> I'm not sure if that's helpful, Stephen, but I hope it was a little.
> Warmest Regards,
> Glen Jarvis
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