[Baypiggies] draft of pycon talk

[Aaron Maxwell]

Hi Jd,

Thanks for your comments.  One thing I did not mention: the talk is supposed 
to be less than 30 minutes - which means I talk for 25 minutes, then answer 
questions for five.  I can streamline what I said in the MP3 to fit in that 
pretty easily, I think, but I still have to make painful choices about 
eliminating things.

On Tuesday 24 March 2009 04:31:50 jd wrote:
> -- the flow..etc looks good.

ok, that's good to get a comment on - good flow is what I am shooting for.

> -- There is another dimension to automated testing... particularly when ur
> automated tests take say 20 hrs. You need to have categories of tests.

This is a good idea, I will try to work this idea in.

> -- You need to pick one or two of the fwk / compare contrast and recommend.

I more or less do that in the spoken word version.  I basically recommend 
BuildBot for general use unless there is a specific reason otherwise, but I 
don't have time to go into detailed pros and cons of the other frameworks.

> -- There is a lot more to it... like
>    -- how to setup components that makes up application.
>    -- how to set up initial  data from
>       -- for each test
>       -- for each suite.

I think these are more in the scope of the (lower-level) test harness, e.g. at 
the level of tools like the unittest module, py.test, nose, etc., rather than 
the higher-level QA system.  They are certainly good things to talk about, but 
I will have to skip over them for want of time.

> -- U might need to run migration tests every so often.. to make sure that
> new features..etc. would get upgraded correctly at existing deployments.

Again, not a bad idea but I expect I will have to omit this.

> Hope this helps :)

It does, thanks!

> /Jd
>
> --- On Tue, 3/24/09, Aaron Maxwell <amax at redsymbol.net> wrote:
> > From: Aaron Maxwell <amax at redsymbol.net>
> > Subject: [Baypiggies] draft of pycon talk
> > To: baypiggies at python.org
> > Date: Tuesday, March 24, 2009, 1:22 AM
> >
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> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm presenting at Pycon this year, about "Building an
> > Automated QA
> > Infrastructure using Open-Source Python Tools":
> > http://us.pycon.org/2009/conference/schedule/event/22/
> >
> > If anyone has some spare cycles and would like to help me
> > with some
> > feedback, I have a draft which I would sincerely appreciate
> > comments
> > on:
> >
> > http://redsymbol.net/media/pycon-draft/pres1.odp
> > http://redsymbol.net/media/pycon-draft/pres1.ppt
> > http://redsymbol.net/media/pycon-draft/pres1.mp3
> >
> > That last link is a recording I made of myself going
> > through it.  It
> > is about 33 minutes; you can just glance through the slides
> > instead if
> > that's too long.  I pretty obviously tripped over my
> > tongue a few
> > places, which I'll hopefully manage to correct by the time
> > I give the
> > talk, so please focus on the more general content.  In
> > particular, if
> > there is something that I don't explain that should be
> > explained, or I
> > use jargon without defining it, etc., please point that
> > out.  If
> > anything important is missing, or if I put something in
> > there for some
> > reason actually shouldn't be there, that is what I would
> > like to know
> > about.
> >
> > I can say right now that I repeated myself several times
> > and talked too
> > long on some minor points.  So I'll practice to
> > improve those things.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Aaron
> >
> > --
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