[Baypiggies] [RECRUITER] Finding work

Elan elan.martinez at gmail.com
Thu May 21 03:44:26 CEST 2009

Excellent jj (mr. moderator)!  I think this can work.

BTW, to be clear I want to encourage EVERYONE to contribute and not just
recruiters, especially since my guess is that most fee-based recruiters
(definitely not all) will be reluctant to contribute if they are not getting
a fee or if they feel paranoid about other recruiters "stealing" leads or
contacts.  My comment to those recruiters... if you have a strong client
relationship there's no reason to worry, and remember you do not have to
include any clients you are currently working with.  If everyone chips in to
do what they can we will all benefit in the long run.

So jj and everyone else, I would love to start this all off immediately but
I'm going to wait to post my leads until tonight.  I have a couple of
stealth co's in S.F. that I would like to list, but need to confirm that
they are still actively hiring python engineers, who I can list as
preferred contacts and also how much I can divulge about the companies.  I
also have a couple fo non-stealth co's based in S.F. that I will post but
need to confirm the same info.  Please, to those who may post before me, do
the best you can to provide current and relevant information to the job
seekers in this community.


On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Shannon -jj Behrens <jjinux at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Elan <elan.martinez at gmail.com> wrote:
> > <aahz at pythoncraft.com> wrote: "companies aren't always advertising all
> their
> > jobs.  Beyond that, I think you need to figure out which companies use
> > Python and apply to them directly regardless of whether they're
> > advertising (I haven't quite gotten to that stage, but it's my next
> > step)."
> >
> > Aahz, you are absolutely correct with this.  Many companies don't
> advertise
> > some/all/any of their available jobs.  This due to various reasons
> including
> > startups in "stealth mode" who don't want to widely publicize their
> > existence except through very targeted solicitations, or smaller
> companies
> > who don't have an internal HR or Recruiting team and who leave it up to
> > their very busy managers to get  job descriptions written and posted on
> the
> > careers site, or even larger companies that are constantly hiring the
> same
> > skill sets and so keep cycling the same job descriptions regardless or
> > whether or not the jobs are actually "active"... to name just a few
> reasons
> > jobs aren't always publicized or kept up to date.
> >
> > So I am a recruiter (who has connected with and established relationships
> > with a few members here at BayPiggies) and I've adhered to the guidlines
> of
> > not posting any jobs here without first discussing with the moderator
> (which
> > I haven't even done to date mostly because I haven't thought of this
> forum
> > as a job marketing tool) and of course I wouldn't dream of posting unless
> I
> > was directly representing the company:-)... So in the spirit of community
> I
> > would like to suggest that perhaps we start a discussion thread where we
> > help fellow members of this forum who are actively researching new job
> > opportunities by providing information/intelligence/insight/etc. about
> any
> > Bay Area companies who widely use Python and who we know are hiring or
> who
> > have been hiring python developers.
> >
> > If what Ive suggested is amenable to the Moderator and if it hasn't
> already
> > been done, then I would be happy to start the thread by providing the
> names
> > of 2-3 companies who I know are hiring or who have recently been hiring
> > python engineers, including a brief overview of the company and also the
> > best course of contact at the company for any interested parties.   It's
> a
> > tight market out there, let's embrace the spirit of community, and share
> > information that may more readily benefit someone else.   C'mon
> recruiters
> > too!  Karma isn't just a bunch of hooey.
> >
> > Moderator? It's your call.  Assuming you give the go-ahead, I'll suggest
> the
> > following format:
> >
> > -Company Name
> > -website if any
> > -location
> > -Brief overview of the company or as much info as can be divulged if it's
> in
> > "stealth"
> > -Known relevant jobs
> > -Best suggested contact (please only provide specific contact details if
> you
> > have that person's expressed consent to post his/her info, otherwise
> point
> > to generic job seekers email contact)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Elan
> Elan, thanks for following the rules.
> <moderator hat on>
> Ok, I know that a lot of people are struggling to find work, so I'm
> going to make a one time exception.
>  * Recruiters may reply to this thread (note, that "[RECRUITER]" is in
> the subject).  Recruiters may *not* post job listings that are out of
> the area unless telecommuting is an option.  I'm sure there are other
> ways in which this allowance can be abused--please don't.
>  * People looking for work can write a short email describing what
> they are looking for along with a link to their resume.
> This is not a permanent change to our policies.  Rather, this is a
> short window in order to serve our members.  After all, this list
> exists to serve its members--specifically the ones who code in Python
> ;)
> If it gets out of hand, I reserve the right to ask everyone to stop the
> thread.
> I'm sorry to be so draconian, but if I don't enforce the rules to the
> best of my ability, I'll get an earful from the other members ;)
> If you have any complaints: a) I suggest you setup an email filter to
> filter out these messages b) send me email with complaints privately.
> </moderator hat on>
> Best Regards,
> -jj
> --
> In this life we cannot do great things. We can only do small things
> with great love. -- Mother Teresa
> http://jjinux.blogspot.com/
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