[Baypiggies] Fwd: Salary etc.

Patrick Laban laban.patrick at gmail.com
Mon Feb 22 21:42:09 CET 2010

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From: Patrick Laban <laban.patrick at gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Baypiggies] Salary etc.
To: Roderick Llewellyn <roderick at sanfransystems.com>

I would like to think I'm a unemployed qualified candidate, at least at the
entry level.  My experience so far with recruiters is that almost all of
them won't put any serious effort into working with an entry level
candidate, even if the position is hiring at several experience levels.
 I've also had a recruiter quit while she was presenting me to another

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Roderick Llewellyn <
roderick at sanfransystems.com> wrote:

> Aahz says: "Actually, my impression is that the pool of unemployed
> candidates has already dried up around here.  I was thinking this weekend
> that it's time to re-enable the ban on recruiters.  Any opinions?"
> Yes I think you're right. I'm getting actively courted by many internal and
> external recruiters now and likely will have > 1 offer very soon! I'm not
> getting the sneering kind of responses I was getting last year especially
> once they knew I am not GenX. I no longer apply to generic Web/LAMP
> "download much... develop little" type of jobs however, I realized they were
> lost causes, as those places seem religious in tone and don't want you to
> have worked on anything BUT web technologies, want you to be an open source
> contributor (i.e., be part of the choir)... and they DEFINITELY don't want
> to hire Baby Boomers. As I've already said before. The trick was to find
> more specialized companies that need more than just generic web programmers.
> Also I think the economy is heating up again tho more slowly than one might
> like.
> About banning recruiters from this list: If they are describing a specific
> job that seems real (not just resume-fishing with phony jobs as many do) and
> Python-related, it seems like if it leads to one person getting a job and
> feeding his/her family that's a good thing. If they're just spamming "check
> out my jobs and... of course... send those resumes in" I'd cut them.
> Roderick Llewellyn
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