[Baypiggies] BayPIGgies meeting Thursday, May 27, 2010: Django, Lessons Learned in the startup world

[Andrew Akira Toulouse]

Sounds like someone needs to grow a beard. :P I kid, I kid. But I've found
that OS X is usually not a lot of fun to get that stuff tested and up and
running. It uses launchd instead of more traditional daemon scripts (or
whatever rc.d or init.d are best called), and is different in a lot of
subtle ways. I'd actually recommend customizing and install of xampp, and
biting the bullet on Postgres if you need it (XAMPP includes MySQL, but
Postgres *is* pretty sweet). It'll remove maybe 2/3 to 3/4 of the
configuration work IMO (yes, pulled those out of thin air). Alternatively,
you could install a sandbox for him on a remote server (probably on a
different port, too, if you're sharing the same dev server) and have him
mount it via sshfs or something.

--Andy

On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Stephen Lacy <slacy at slacy.com> wrote:

> Um, tried that.  Did you actually read the results?  There's lots of
> "manually download and install" and none of them address mysql, sqlite,
> postgres, etc., nevermind 3rd party django reusable apps.
>
> What I'm used to is "sudo apt-get install mysql python-django
> python-django-registration python-pip; sudo pip install django-haystack"
>
> The equivalent instructions for OSX always seem to be much more obtuse, and
> I wonder if I'm just missing the "easy way" to do it.    Any time someone
> writes instructions that involve manually building and symlinking into
> /usr/local, I start to get suspicious about my ability to upgrade and
> maintain whatever I'm working with.
>
> Steve
>
>
> On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Lee Hinde <leehinde at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> You're working too hard. Google "installing django on snow leopard"
>>
>> --
>> -Lee
>>
>> Sorry if this is terse. I'm sending it from my phone, which encourages
>> brevity.
>>
>> On May 28, 2010, at 9:17 AM, Stephen Lacy <slacy at slacy.com> wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone out there have any development tips for working
>> locally/standalone on a Django project on a Mac?
>>
>> Our production environment is Ubuntu+Apache+mod_wsgi+Django, and when I'm
>> developing, I use ubuntu, a replica of our database, and Django's manage.py
>> runserver.  But, our designer uses a Mac, and would like to have a
>> standalone development environment for doing template work.
>>
>> I spent one evening looking at getting MacPorts + MySQL + Python + Django,
>> and it sure was a bear.  It was taking hours building xorg from scratch, for
>> some reason.  (i.e. via a "sudo port install <somepackage>")   Our project
>> uses several 3rd party reusable apps (django-registration at the very least,
>> but a couple others, like django-haystack) so I'd like something akin to PIP
>> on the Mac as well for installing those packages.
>>
>> I googled around quite a bit, and didn't find an easy solution to this
>> problem.  What do you guys do?
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 2:29 AM, wesley chun < <wescpy at gmail.com>
>> wescpy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> great info tonight about the Django ecosystem tonight!
>>>
>>> i wanted to pass along a couple additional links that may be of
>>> interest to some:
>>>
>>> 1. Getting pure Django apps running on Google App Engine
>>> see django-nonrel and djangoappengine at <http://allbuttonspressed.com>
>>> http://allbuttonspressed.com
>>>
>>> 2. Specifically, getting Django 1.2 running on Google App Engine
>>>  <http://goo.gl/4BmC>http://goo.gl/4BmC
>>>
>>> 3. Shamless plug for the user-friendly Django book i helped write:
>>>  <http://withdjango.com>http://withdjango.com
>>>
>>> cheers.
>>> -- wesley
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>>>
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