[Baypiggies] Let me kick off the discussions

[Simeon Franklin]

Caveat: I have very limited experience so far. But... I like it. I'm
may still find show stopping bugs, but I like it.

I'm writing apps with an eye towards instructing beginners in writing
GUI apps with Python and Kivy fits well into this space - definitely
more user/beginner friendly than Tk! Some bits are downright elegant
like the idea of "properties" (basically a family of pre-built
descriptors which means they can be initted at class definition time
plus some type checking plus the observer pattern so they fire events
when they receive values. Very nice!) I also like the (optional) kv
language for defining layouts - does anybody know if there's a good
gui-builder that spits out kv? That would probably be a good gui app
to work on, come to think of it...

There are some clunky bits - the docs aren't awesome or comprehensive
as the framework seems to be developing at a good clip. Running an app
on a desktop from the .py files is easy, packaging it up is difficult
(building an .apk is a pain). But I'm finding the easy stuff easy and
everything else possible. +1 on Kivy.

-regards
Simeon Franklin


On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Guido van Rossum <guido at python.org> wrote:
> So, that's your opinion of the *talk*. What's your opinion of the software?
>
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Simeon Franklin <simeonf at gmail.com> wrote:
>> And my own mini-review of the talk (as somebody trying to build a Kivy
>> app or two to run on both desktop and android):  Don't bother. I was
>> hoping this would be a tutorial style "here's how you build apps" talk
>> but it was more of a history of the development and explanation of the
>> architecture. This was interesting and will be helpful background down
>> the road... but didn't help me right now at all :)
>>
>> -Simeon
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Glen Jarvis <glen at glenjarvis.com> wrote:
>>> There was a PyCon talk about this:
>>>
>>> https://us.pycon.org/2013/schedule/presentation/63/
>>>
>>> Kivy: Building GUI and Mobile apps with Python
>>> Thomas Hansen, Mathieu Virbel
>>>
>>> Here's' the PyVideo link:
>>>
>>> http://pyvideo.org/video/1701/kivy-building-gui-and-mobile-apps-with-python
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>>
>>> Glen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:46 PM, John Wegis <jwegis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> +1 python on mobile and Kivy framework
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Jacob Alheid <shakefu at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm interested in high performance scalability in python web apps. Topics
>>>>> like "gotchas and best practices with gevent", "the python 3 futures
>>>>> framework", "comparison between twisted, tornado, and futures", "python
>>>>> c-extension basics", and so forth sound pretty interesting to me.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm also interested in python on mobile, so I'd love to hear about the
>>>>> Kivy framework and any others that may be out there.
>>>>> —
>>>>> Sent from Mailbox for iPad
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Glen Jarvis <glen at glenjarvis.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "accounting principles in garbage collectors of the Java VM and the .NET
>>>>>> runtime and how they affect Jython and IronPython"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That actually sounds rather interesting...   :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good call!!!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> G
>>>>>
>>>>>
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