[Catalog-sig] start on static generation, and caching - apache config.

René Dudfield renesd at gmail.com
Sun Jul 8 19:47:17 CEST 2007


Hi,

turning on caching is the plan as well, but after the static files.
See my earlier emails on the subject.

However static pages have their uses too, and are a bit faster than
the cached ones.


On 7/9/07, Phillip J. Eby <pje at telecommunity.com> wrote:
> At 01:48 PM 7/7/2007 -0400, Jim Fulton wrote:
>
> >On Jul 7, 2007, at 12:43 PM, Martin v. Löwis wrote:
> >...
> > > I'm quite skeptical on caching in general (even about the static page
> > > generation). It *should* be possible to make it fast enough so that
> > > it doesn't need caching.
> >
> >Sure, with more hardware than we want to afford.
> >
> > > I consider caching a work-around, not a
> > > solution - and one with severe drawbacks.
> >
> >The pages we're talking about are static.  They change at well-known
> >times. IMO, It's crazy to serve static content dynamically when it's
> >easy to serve it statically.
>
> If they're effectively static, why can't Apache cache
> them?  Shouldn't we be able to simply add Last-Modified/If-Modified
> support to the PyPI output, and enable Apache's disk caching for
> non-logged-in users?
>
> That is, as long as there is a quick last-modified-time query for a
> package, we can use those to process the If-Modified header.  The
> modification time could even be memcached, so as not to need a
> database hit 99% of the time.
>
> While that's not necessarily as fast as static page generation, it's
> a lot less complex to get right, and it saves the main piece of CPU
> load: i.e., doing SQL queries and actually generating the page.
>
> Pages that pertain to more than one package might be a bit more
> complex to do this on, but if I understand correctly it's mainly the
> package-specific pages we're concerned with here, correct?  Even so,
> it's possible to have any updates also update a global "something's
> changed" time, and use that time as the Last-Modified of those pages.
>
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