From chris at simplistix.co.uk  Fri Dec 12 13:20:46 2008
From: chris at simplistix.co.uk (Chris Withers)
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 12:20:46 +0000
Subject: [Catalog-sig] problems with PyPI?
Message-ID: <4942571E.6010605@simplistix.co.uk>

Hi All,

Any idea why my ReST isn't rendering for these packages:

http://pypi.python.org/pypi/testfixtures
http://pypi.python.org/pypi/mailinglogger

Also, the search and front-page-newest-packages appear to be broken...

cheers,

Chris

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From martin at v.loewis.de  Sat Dec 13 00:08:51 2008
From: martin at v.loewis.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Martin_v=2E_L=F6wis=22?=)
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 00:08:51 +0100
Subject: [Catalog-sig] problems with PyPI?
In-Reply-To: <4942571E.6010605@simplistix.co.uk>
References: <4942571E.6010605@simplistix.co.uk>
Message-ID: <4942EF03.5040700@v.loewis.de>

> Any idea why my ReST isn't rendering for these packages:
> 
> http://pypi.python.org/pypi/testfixtures
> http://pypi.python.org/pypi/mailinglogger

Can you elaborate? It looks fine to me.

> Also, the search and front-page-newest-packages appear to be broken...

Again, I can't quite follow. What specifically looks incorrect?

Regards,
Martin

From chris at simplistix.co.uk  Sat Dec 13 00:08:20 2008
From: chris at simplistix.co.uk (Chris Withers)
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 23:08:20 +0000
Subject: [Catalog-sig] problems with PyPI?
In-Reply-To: <4942EF03.5040700@v.loewis.de>
References: <4942571E.6010605@simplistix.co.uk> <4942EF03.5040700@v.loewis.de>
Message-ID: <4942EEE4.9060108@simplistix.co.uk>

Martin v. L?wis wrote:
>> Any idea why my ReST isn't rendering for these packages:
>>
>> http://pypi.python.org/pypi/testfixtures
>> http://pypi.python.org/pypi/mailinglogger
> 
> Can you elaborate? It looks fine to me.

This was a ReST problem.

>> Also, the search and front-page-newest-packages appear to be broken...
> 
> Again, I can't quite follow. What specifically looks incorrect?

http://pypi.python.org/pypi

...lists nothing for me currently, it usually lists the latest added 
packaged.

Also, searching for 'buildout' currently returns nothing, it usually 
returns loads of hits.

Chris

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From martin at v.loewis.de  Sat Dec 13 00:20:23 2008
From: martin at v.loewis.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Martin_v=2E_L=F6wis=22?=)
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 00:20:23 +0100
Subject: [Catalog-sig] problems with PyPI?
In-Reply-To: <4942EEE4.9060108@simplistix.co.uk>
References: <4942571E.6010605@simplistix.co.uk> <4942EF03.5040700@v.loewis.de>
	<4942EEE4.9060108@simplistix.co.uk>
Message-ID: <4942F1B7.5080909@v.loewis.de>

>>
>> Again, I can't quite follow. What specifically looks incorrect?
> 
> http://pypi.python.org/pypi
> 
> ...lists nothing for me currently, it usually lists the latest added
> packaged.

Not so for me. I see the newest package as

2008-12-12  	django-frontendadmin 0.3  	A a set of templatetags to allow
an easy and unobstrusive way to edit model-data in the frontend of your
page.

and the oldest as

2008-12-12  	go 1.2.0  	Quick directory changing (super-cd)

> Also, searching for 'buildout' currently returns nothing, it usually
> returns loads of hits.

I get loads of hits, right now.

Can anybody confirm Chris' observation? Or, better yet, offer an
explanation?

Regards,
Martin

From renesd at gmail.com  Sat Dec 13 00:22:18 2008
From: renesd at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9_Dudfield?=)
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 10:22:18 +1100
Subject: [Catalog-sig] problems with PyPI?
In-Reply-To: <4942F1B7.5080909@v.loewis.de>
References: <4942571E.6010605@simplistix.co.uk> <4942EF03.5040700@v.loewis.de>
	<4942EEE4.9060108@simplistix.co.uk> <4942F1B7.5080909@v.loewis.de>
Message-ID: <64ddb72c0812121522i1ecf45d8qac9f5be7ba209ddf@mail.gmail.com>

Works for me.

Are you logged in?  That could be a difference.



On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 10:20 AM, "Martin v. L?wis" <martin at v.loewis.de> wrote:
>>>
>>> Again, I can't quite follow. What specifically looks incorrect?
>>
>> http://pypi.python.org/pypi
>>
>> ...lists nothing for me currently, it usually lists the latest added
>> packaged.
>
> Not so for me. I see the newest package as
>
> 2008-12-12      django-frontendadmin 0.3        A a set of templatetags to allow
> an easy and unobstrusive way to edit model-data in the frontend of your
> page.
>
> and the oldest as
>
> 2008-12-12      go 1.2.0        Quick directory changing (super-cd)
>
>> Also, searching for 'buildout' currently returns nothing, it usually
>> returns loads of hits.
>
> I get loads of hits, right now.
>
> Can anybody confirm Chris' observation? Or, better yet, offer an
> explanation?
>
> Regards,
> Martin
> _______________________________________________
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>

From chris at simplistix.co.uk  Sat Dec 13 00:21:22 2008
From: chris at simplistix.co.uk (Chris Withers)
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 23:21:22 +0000
Subject: [Catalog-sig] problems with PyPI?
In-Reply-To: <4942F1B7.5080909@v.loewis.de>
References: <4942571E.6010605@simplistix.co.uk> <4942EF03.5040700@v.loewis.de>
	<4942EEE4.9060108@simplistix.co.uk> <4942F1B7.5080909@v.loewis.de>
Message-ID: <4942F1F2.3010409@simplistix.co.uk>

Martin v. L?wis wrote:
> Can anybody confirm Chris' observation? Or, better yet, offer an
> explanation?

I can. I looked mroe closely and both problems are the result of the 
PyPI UI doing a pretty bad job when you own a lot of packages and you're 
logged in.

I have a *lot* of packages that I maintain, so the bar on the right 
pushes any other useful content down way off the bottom of my browser.

Any chance of this getting fixed?

Chris

PS: Management groups would be good too...

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From martin at v.loewis.de  Sat Dec 13 00:36:13 2008
From: martin at v.loewis.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Martin_v=2E_L=F6wis=22?=)
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 00:36:13 +0100
Subject: [Catalog-sig] problems with PyPI?
In-Reply-To: <4942F1F2.3010409@simplistix.co.uk>
References: <4942571E.6010605@simplistix.co.uk> <4942EF03.5040700@v.loewis.de>
	<4942EEE4.9060108@simplistix.co.uk> <4942F1B7.5080909@v.loewis.de>
	<4942F1F2.3010409@simplistix.co.uk>
Message-ID: <4942F56D.3050302@v.loewis.de>

> I can. I looked mroe closely and both problems are the result of the
> PyPI UI doing a pretty bad job when you own a lot of packages and you're
> logged in.
> 
> I have a *lot* of packages that I maintain, so the bar on the right
> pushes any other useful content down way off the bottom of my browser.
> 
> Any chance of this getting fixed?

I wish I knew what "this" is that you want to be fixed. Can you please
make a precise problem description to the PyPI bug tracker?
(explain, in particular, what "a lot of packages" means precisely).

> PS: Management groups would be good too...

I don't understand that remark. What is a "management group"?

Regards,
Martin

From chris at simplistix.co.uk  Sat Dec 13 00:36:52 2008
From: chris at simplistix.co.uk (Chris Withers)
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 23:36:52 +0000
Subject: [Catalog-sig] problems with PyPI?
In-Reply-To: <4942F56D.3050302@v.loewis.de>
References: <4942571E.6010605@simplistix.co.uk> <4942EF03.5040700@v.loewis.de>
	<4942EEE4.9060108@simplistix.co.uk> <4942F1B7.5080909@v.loewis.de>
	<4942F1F2.3010409@simplistix.co.uk> <4942F56D.3050302@v.loewis.de>
Message-ID: <4942F594.3040303@simplistix.co.uk>

Martin v. L?wis wrote:
>> I have a *lot* of packages that I maintain, so the bar on the right
>> pushes any other useful content down way off the bottom of my browser.
>>
>> Any chance of this getting fixed?
> 
> I wish I knew what "this" is that you want to be fixed. 

Generally, 'this' means 'whatever I was just describing', in this case:

 >> I have a *lot* of packages that I maintain, so the bar on the right
 >> pushes any other useful content down way off the bottom of my
 >> browser.

> make a precise problem description to the PyPI bug tracker?

Where's that?

>> PS: Management groups would be good too...
> 
> I don't understand that remark. What is a "management group"?

Currently, packages can only be owned by an individual.
This is annoying when a package is maintained by a group of people, as 
each person in the group has to manually have *all* the packages added 
to their username by someone who already has joint ownership of them.

Launchpad does a pretty good job of this...

Chris

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From martin at v.loewis.de  Sat Dec 13 01:09:06 2008
From: martin at v.loewis.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Martin_v=2E_L=F6wis=22?=)
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 01:09:06 +0100
Subject: [Catalog-sig] problems with PyPI?
In-Reply-To: <4942F594.3040303@simplistix.co.uk>
References: <4942571E.6010605@simplistix.co.uk> <4942EF03.5040700@v.loewis.de>
	<4942EEE4.9060108@simplistix.co.uk> <4942F1B7.5080909@v.loewis.de>
	<4942F1F2.3010409@simplistix.co.uk> <4942F56D.3050302@v.loewis.de>
	<4942F594.3040303@simplistix.co.uk>
Message-ID: <4942FD22.1080101@v.loewis.de>

>> make a precise problem description to the PyPI bug tracker?
> 
> Where's that?

Follow the link "Bug reports", to

http://sourceforge.net/tracker2/?group_id=66150&atid=513503

>> I don't understand that remark. What is a "management group"?
> 
> Currently, packages can only be owned by an individual.
> This is annoying when a package is maintained by a group of people, as
> each person in the group has to manually have *all* the packages added
> to their username by someone who already has joint ownership of them.

(I had to read it three times to understand what you mean - you want to
have people join a group, and then make the group owner of the package)

Feel free to submit a bug report/feature request. This is a significant
change, so in absence of a patch, don't expect that PyPI will change
here any time soon.

Regards,
Martin

From jantod at gmail.com  Thu Dec 18 15:20:29 2008
From: jantod at gmail.com (Janto Dreijer)
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:20:29 +0200
Subject: [Catalog-sig] date of a package release
Message-ID: <cbc7eb430812180620t298c43bcj827dfb38123eb900@mail.gmail.com>

Hi!

I'm creating an index of the various SciPy SciKits (
http://scikits.appspot.com/ ), and the date of a package release would
be helpful.

I have yet to see a DOAP record on PyPI with the
Project.release.Version.created RDF value filled in. Why is this?
The XML-RPC interface also doesn't return any dates. (Except for the
changelog method. But I can't really use that as Google App Engine
truncates data from remote servers if it gets too long.)

So my question: how do I go about getting the release date of a package?

Regards
Janto

From martin at v.loewis.de  Fri Dec 19 00:27:07 2008
From: martin at v.loewis.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Martin_v=2E_L=F6wis=22?=)
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 00:27:07 +0100
Subject: [Catalog-sig] date of a package release
In-Reply-To: <cbc7eb430812180620t298c43bcj827dfb38123eb900@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cbc7eb430812180620t298c43bcj827dfb38123eb900@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <494ADC4B.8040604@v.loewis.de>

> So my question: how do I go about getting the release date of a package?

You can find out the file release dates from the http file index
listings. The package release date itself is available only from
the changelog, which is available through XML-RPC.

Regards,
Martin

From jantod at gmail.com  Fri Dec 19 00:44:13 2008
From: jantod at gmail.com (Janto Dreijer)
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 01:44:13 +0200
Subject: [Catalog-sig] date of a package release
In-Reply-To: <494ADC4B.8040604@v.loewis.de>
References: <cbc7eb430812180620t298c43bcj827dfb38123eb900@mail.gmail.com>
	<494ADC4B.8040604@v.loewis.de>
Message-ID: <cbc7eb430812181544j14bf2a64g2a6ef389c1d0fe0b@mail.gmail.com>

Maybe I'm just being stupid, but what do you mean "http file index listing"?

Unfortunately I can't parse the results of the changelog method as
Google App Engine's quotas and XML's verbosity is not working that
well together.

Is there a reason the XML-RPC release_data() method doesn't return a date?

Regards
Janto

On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 1:27 AM, "Martin v. L?wis" <martin at v.loewis.de> wrote:
>> So my question: how do I go about getting the release date of a package?
>
> You can find out the file release dates from the http file index
> listings. The package release date itself is available only from
> the changelog, which is available through XML-RPC.
>
> Regards,
> Martin
>

From martin at v.loewis.de  Fri Dec 19 07:13:39 2008
From: martin at v.loewis.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Martin_v=2E_L=F6wis=22?=)
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 07:13:39 +0100
Subject: [Catalog-sig] date of a package release
In-Reply-To: <cbc7eb430812181544j14bf2a64g2a6ef389c1d0fe0b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cbc7eb430812180620t298c43bcj827dfb38123eb900@mail.gmail.com>	
	<494ADC4B.8040604@v.loewis.de>
	<cbc7eb430812181544j14bf2a64g2a6ef389c1d0fe0b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <494B3B93.3070502@v.loewis.de>

> Maybe I'm just being stupid, but what do you mean "http file index listing"?

http://pypi.python.org/packages/source/h/hatom2atom/

> Is there a reason the XML-RPC release_data() method doesn't return a date?

Yes: the release data in the database don't have a date stored, so it
can't return one.

Regards,
Martin

From jantod at gmail.com  Fri Dec 19 10:39:39 2008
From: jantod at gmail.com (Janto Dreijer)
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 11:39:39 +0200
Subject: [Catalog-sig] date of a package release
In-Reply-To: <494B3B93.3070502@v.loewis.de>
References: <cbc7eb430812180620t298c43bcj827dfb38123eb900@mail.gmail.com>
	<494ADC4B.8040604@v.loewis.de>
	<cbc7eb430812181544j14bf2a64g2a6ef389c1d0fe0b@mail.gmail.com>
	<494B3B93.3070502@v.loewis.de>
Message-ID: <cbc7eb430812190139v6e064f09ifa7e3b3b8a95c4bc@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 8:13 AM, "Martin v. L?wis" <martin at v.loewis.de> wrote:
>> Maybe I'm just being stupid, but what do you mean "http file index listing"?
>
> http://pypi.python.org/packages/source/h/hatom2atom/
>

Oh, I see! Thankyou!

Regards
Janto

From james.utter at gmail.com  Tue Dec 23 04:21:25 2008
From: james.utter at gmail.com (James Utter)
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:21:25 +1100
Subject: [Catalog-sig] PIL download link broken
Message-ID: <6c90b3e90812221921s2810aa0bg7141979b95122a76@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I don't know if this is the right place to report this, so please
direct me elsewhere if necessary.

I have noticed that the download link for the Python Imaging Libraries
1.1.6 is broken.
It does not point to the package, but rather a website where the
package is located.

This breaks it's installation with easy_install and pip.

Thanks,

James Utter

$ easy_install PIL
Searching for PIL
Reading http://pypi.python.org/simple/PIL/
Reading http://www.pythonware.com/products/pil
Reading http://effbot.org/zone/pil-changes-115.htm
Reading http://effbot.org/downloads/#Imaging
No local packages or download links found for PIL

$ easy_install Imaging
Searching for Imaging
Reading http://pypi.python.org/simple/Imaging/
Couldn't find index page for 'Imaging' (maybe misspelled?)
Scanning index of all packages (this may take a while)
Reading http://pypi.python.org/simple/
No local packages or download links found for Imaging
error: Could not find suitable distribution for Requirement.parse('Imaging')

$ pip install -E venv PIL==1.1.6
Downloading/unpacking PIL==1.1.6
  Could not fetch URL http://pypi.python.org/simple/PIL/1.1.6: HTTP
Error 404: Not Found
  Will skip URL http://pypi.python.org/simple/PIL/1.1.6 when looking
for download links for PIL==1.1.6
  Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement PIL==1.1.6
(from versions: wmf-1.0b2-20040224)
No distributions matching the version for PIL==1.1.6
Storing complete log in ./pip-log.txt

From lists at zopyx.com  Tue Dec 23 06:36:08 2008
From: lists at zopyx.com (Andreas Jung)
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 06:36:08 +0100
Subject: [Catalog-sig] PIL download link broken
In-Reply-To: <6c90b3e90812221921s2810aa0bg7141979b95122a76@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6c90b3e90812221921s2810aa0bg7141979b95122a76@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <495078C8.5020009@zopyx.com>

On 23.12.2008 4:21 Uhr, James Utter wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I don't know if this is the right place to report this, so please
> direct me elsewhere if necessary.

Contact the package maintainers - in this case: Pythonware

-aj
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