From james at atlantixeng.com  Thu Dec  1 19:42:42 2011
From: james at atlantixeng.com (James -- Atlantix)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 13:42:42 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] IPython
Message-ID: <017001ccb059$03d10670$0b731350$@atlantixeng.com>

With regards to parallel programming, it seems IPython is quite the choice.
Particularly, with it's large database of documentation and even the high
performance computing (HPC) Vision tool. 

 

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From eric at intellovations.com  Thu Dec  1 22:34:04 2011
From: eric at intellovations.com (Eric Floehr)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 16:34:04 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] Columbus IT Survey
Message-ID: <CAJzarMOfgD+cH-JCcgvsazOYi0+yLrwh0rxZco0rRWKD0kh10g@mail.gmail.com>

Ben Blanquera is a tireless champion for technology in Columbus, and small
business in general.  He asked me to forward on this survey about your
experiences and perceptions of IT jobs in Central Ohio and what you are
looking for in a position.  Please take a moment to fill out the brief
survey...

Here is his original email:

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Hello,

My name is Ben Blanquera <http://www.linkedin.com/in/benblanquera>  and I'd
really appreciate it if you could take a few minute to fill in this survey
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The goal of this survey is to understand what IT professionals are looking
for from their employers. The results of this survey will be shared (in
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We will also share the results on the http://techlifeohio.com website.


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From eric at intellovations.com  Thu Dec  1 21:58:15 2011
From: eric at intellovations.com (Eric Floehr)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 15:58:15 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] IPython
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Fernando Perez (the creator of IPython) had a good talk at SciPy 2011 with
a good intro to IPython that shows what it's capable of...

http://www.archive.org/details/Wednesday-203-6-IpythonANewArchitectureForInteractiveAndParallel

and the slides:
http://conference.scipy.org/scipy2011/slides/perez_ipython.pdf

I didn't realize IPython now has a QT shell...

-Eric


On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 1:42 PM, James -- Atlantix <james at atlantixeng.com>wrote:

> With regards to parallel programming, it seems IPython is quite the
> choice. Particularly, with it?s large database of documentation and even
> the high performance computing (HPC) Vision tool. ****
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From james at atlantixeng.com  Fri Dec  2 03:40:32 2011
From: james at atlantixeng.com (James -- Atlantix)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 21:40:32 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] IPython
Message-ID: <01fa01ccb09b$c38f4e30$4aadea90$@atlantixeng.com>

I have found the documentation on IPython to be quite extensive, and along
with their new release, has significant support for parallel computation, in
a variety of forms. Also nice Qt/PySide support has been added. 

 

Has anyone used IPython for parallel computation? James

 

 

 

 

 

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From james at atlantixeng.com  Fri Dec  2 09:23:03 2011
From: james at atlantixeng.com (James -- Atlantix)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 03:23:03 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] More on IPython Parallel Computing
Message-ID: <001001ccb0cb$9d533f30$d7f9bd90$@atlantixeng.com>

I have been further impressed by the sheer volume of detailed documentation
on IPython; and it's evolving capabilities. -James

 

http://ipython.org/ipython-doc/dev/parallel/parallel_intro.html

 

 

 

From: James -- Atlantix [mailto:james at atlantixeng.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 9:41 PM
To: centraloh at python.org
Subject: IPython

 

I have found the documentation on IPython to be quite extensive, and along
with their new release, has significant support for parallel computation, in
a variety of forms. Also nice Qt/PySide support has been added. 

 

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From douglas.m.stanley at gmail.com  Fri Dec  2 14:56:17 2011
From: douglas.m.stanley at gmail.com (Douglas Stanley)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 08:56:17 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] Python on Ubuntu Question
In-Reply-To: <00da01ccaf8c$91fed120$b5fc7360$@atlantixeng.com>
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For vim fans (and I guess emacs too) check out pida. It wraps your favorite
editor with some ide style addons.

Just thought I'd throw that out there.

Doug
On Nov 30, 2011 1:26 PM, "James -- Atlantix" <james at atlantixeng.com> wrote:

> Hello Folks; I am doing some work with Python 2.7 on Ubuntu these days,
> and since this is my first foray from Windows into Linux in some time, I
> have some general questions. My Unix graduate school daze still remain with
> me, so I am okay with general setup. Maybe some of you could provide  your
> thoughts. The first question is would you install setuptools and use
> easy_install OR would you tend to use the Synaptic package manager within
> Ubuntu . . . i.e. ****
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From mark at microenh.com  Sat Dec  3 03:58:54 2011
From: mark at microenh.com (Mark Erbaugh)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 21:58:54 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] Simple XY Graphing
Message-ID: <E90432B6-69DC-4275-A493-3C026A68AF25@microenh.com>

What are folks recommendations for a Python module/library for creating a simple XY graph to display on a web page?

Thanks,
Mark

From eric at intellovations.com  Sat Dec  3 15:16:57 2011
From: eric at intellovations.com (Eric Floehr)
Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 09:16:57 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] Simple XY Graphing
In-Reply-To: <E90432B6-69DC-4275-A493-3C026A68AF25@microenh.com>
References: <E90432B6-69DC-4275-A493-3C026A68AF25@microenh.com>
Message-ID: <CAJzarMOC-yMuAJ5_BkdqwTC3=pFzzB1wO97CFFd_8UfiVyZXhg@mail.gmail.com>

Mark,

I'd use matplotlib.  The book "Matplotlib for Python Developers" has
examples for dynamically generating graphs within Django and Pylons.  I'm
sure there are also examples on the web.

If you want to use a client library, so you can have hover-overs, etc. or
ajax... I use the javascript plotting library Highcharts
http://www.highcharts.com/  it's free for non-commercial use.

-Eric


On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Mark Erbaugh <mark at microenh.com> wrote:

> What are folks recommendations for a Python module/library for creating a
> simple XY graph to display on a web page?
>
> Thanks,
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From mark at microenh.com  Sat Dec  3 16:02:12 2011
From: mark at microenh.com (Mark Erbaugh)
Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 10:02:12 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] Simple XY Graphing
In-Reply-To: <CAJzarMOC-yMuAJ5_BkdqwTC3=pFzzB1wO97CFFd_8UfiVyZXhg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E90432B6-69DC-4275-A493-3C026A68AF25@microenh.com>
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On Dec 3, 2011, at 9:16 AM, Eric Floehr wrote:

> Mark,
> 
> I'd use matplotlib.  The book "Matplotlib for Python Developers" has examples for dynamically generating graphs within Django and Pylons.  I'm sure there are also examples on the web.
> 
> If you want to use a client library, so you can have hover-overs, etc. or ajax... I use the javascript plotting library Highcharts http://www.highcharts.com/  it's free for non-commercial use.
> 
> -Eric

Eric,

Thanks.  I don't know anything about it, but I wonder if Matplotlib is overkill for what I need.  I don't need the hover-overs (at least not now).

Mark
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From winningham at gmail.com  Sat Dec  3 16:13:30 2011
From: winningham at gmail.com (Thomas Winningham)
Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 10:13:30 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] Simple XY Graphing
In-Reply-To: <F712B581-9B3F-4963-BA3E-1A91521C4E6A@microenh.com>
References: <E90432B6-69DC-4275-A493-3C026A68AF25@microenh.com>
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For fully customized and accurate scatter plots for statistics, I
think Eric's suggestion can't be beat on Python. I've played with a
lot of other libraries for just really basic and general drawing, and
those include PyCairo, PySVG, Python Imaging Library (just manipulate
pixels) and then OpenGL things such as PyGame, NodeBox, etc ...
PyCairo and PySVG are great for print, but the fastest way to get a
bitmap is maybe PIL?

On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Mark Erbaugh <mark at microenh.com> wrote:
>
> On Dec 3, 2011, at 9:16 AM, Eric Floehr wrote:
>
> Mark,
> I'd use matplotlib. ?The book "Matplotlib for Python Developers" has examples for dynamically generating graphs within Django and Pylons. ?I'm sure there are also examples on the web.
> If you want to use a client library, so you can have hover-overs, etc. or ajax... I use the javascript plotting library Highcharts?http://www.highcharts.com/? it's free for non-commercial use.
> -Eric
>
> Eric,
> Thanks. ?I don't know anything about it, but I wonder if Matplotlib is overkill for what I need. ?I don't need the hover-overs (at least not now).
> Mark
> _______________________________________________
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From godber at gmail.com  Sat Dec  3 21:48:21 2011
From: godber at gmail.com (Austin Godber)
Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 13:48:21 -0700
Subject: [CentralOH] Simple XY Graphing
In-Reply-To: <CAJShLf9UmxxH7jp7My1hy0WVdhK74Xdk2hX-NzezM4kZPffAvg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E90432B6-69DC-4275-A493-3C026A68AF25@microenh.com>
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You could generate the data in python and then use a javascript
library to generate a chart.

http://dygraphs.com/

Or any of the things here http://delicious.com/godber/javascript+chart

The benefit is you could do more dynamic things than with an image
(reporting values while hovering over the points).  A disadvantage of
course is that static images are readily supported across browsers.

This

On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 8:13 AM, Thomas Winningham <winningham at gmail.com> wrote:
> For fully customized and accurate scatter plots for statistics, I
> think Eric's suggestion can't be beat on Python. I've played with a
> lot of other libraries for just really basic and general drawing, and
> those include PyCairo, PySVG, Python Imaging Library (just manipulate
> pixels) and then OpenGL things such as PyGame, NodeBox, etc ...
> PyCairo and PySVG are great for print, but the fastest way to get a
> bitmap is maybe PIL?
>
> On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Mark Erbaugh <mark at microenh.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Dec 3, 2011, at 9:16 AM, Eric Floehr wrote:
>>
>> Mark,
>> I'd use matplotlib. ?The book "Matplotlib for Python Developers" has examples for dynamically generating graphs within Django and Pylons. ?I'm sure there are also examples on the web.
>> If you want to use a client library, so you can have hover-overs, etc. or ajax... I use the javascript plotting library Highcharts?http://www.highcharts.com/? it's free for non-commercial use.
>> -Eric
>>
>> Eric,
>> Thanks. ?I don't know anything about it, but I wonder if Matplotlib is overkill for what I need. ?I don't need the hover-overs (at least not now).
>> Mark
>> _______________________________________________
>> CentralOH mailing list
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>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/centraloh
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From mark at microenh.com  Sat Dec  3 22:46:28 2011
From: mark at microenh.com (Mark Erbaugh)
Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 16:46:28 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] Simple XY Graphing
In-Reply-To: <CAMBaWcWSq-VLQgKRrpqFP9MRuPVHOqcKkke=XMeztt5CFzAhAg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E90432B6-69DC-4275-A493-3C026A68AF25@microenh.com>
	<CAJzarMOC-yMuAJ5_BkdqwTC3=pFzzB1wO97CFFd_8UfiVyZXhg@mail.gmail.com>
	<F712B581-9B3F-4963-BA3E-1A91521C4E6A@microenh.com>
	<CAJShLf9UmxxH7jp7My1hy0WVdhK74Xdk2hX-NzezM4kZPffAvg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAMBaWcWSq-VLQgKRrpqFP9MRuPVHOqcKkke=XMeztt5CFzAhAg@mail.gmail.com>
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Austin,

Thanks.  I think my graphing needs are really simple. No need for anything fancy. I think a simple image (bmp or png or gif).  Right now the rest of the application runs w/o Javascript.

Mark

On Dec 3, 2011, at 3:48 PM, Austin Godber wrote:

> You could generate the data in python and then use a javascript
> library to generate a chart.
> 
> http://dygraphs.com/
> 
> Or any of the things here http://delicious.com/godber/javascript+chart
> 
> The benefit is you could do more dynamic things than with an image
> (reporting values while hovering over the points).  A disadvantage of
> course is that static images are readily supported across browsers.
> 
> This
> 
> On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 8:13 AM, Thomas Winningham <winningham at gmail.com> wrote:
>> For fully customized and accurate scatter plots for statistics, I
>> think Eric's suggestion can't be beat on Python. I've played with a
>> lot of other libraries for just really basic and general drawing, and
>> those include PyCairo, PySVG, Python Imaging Library (just manipulate
>> pixels) and then OpenGL things such as PyGame, NodeBox, etc ...
>> PyCairo and PySVG are great for print, but the fastest way to get a
>> bitmap is maybe PIL?
>> 
>> On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Mark Erbaugh <mark at microenh.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Dec 3, 2011, at 9:16 AM, Eric Floehr wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mark,
>>> I'd use matplotlib.  The book "Matplotlib for Python Developers" has examples for dynamically generating graphs within Django and Pylons.  I'm sure there are also examples on the web.
>>> If you want to use a client library, so you can have hover-overs, etc. or ajax... I use the javascript plotting library Highcharts http://www.highcharts.com/  it's free for non-commercial use.
>>> -Eric
>>> 
>>> Eric,
>>> Thanks.  I don't know anything about it, but I wonder if Matplotlib is overkill for what I need.  I don't need the hover-overs (at least not now).
>>> Mark
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> CentralOH mailing list
>>> CentralOH at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/centraloh
>>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> CentralOH mailing list
>> CentralOH at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/centraloh
> _______________________________________________
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> CentralOH at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/centraloh


From eric at intellovations.com  Sat Dec  3 23:02:17 2011
From: eric at intellovations.com (Eric Floehr)
Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 17:02:17 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] Simple XY Graphing
In-Reply-To: <F712B581-9B3F-4963-BA3E-1A91521C4E6A@microenh.com>
References: <E90432B6-69DC-4275-A493-3C026A68AF25@microenh.com>
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Message-ID: <CAJzarMNfZZgej8ZjWXFm3rxsCx5q4tgg0ncRNhPao5Ch9OsHDA@mail.gmail.com>

Mark,



> Eric,
>
> Thanks.  I don't know anything about it, but I wonder if Matplotlib is
> overkill for what I need.  I don't need the hover-overs (at least not now).
>
> Mark
>
>

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by overkill... yes matplotlib has a lot
of capability.  But that doesn't mean it's hard to use or get started with
for simple xy plots:

import matplotlib.pyplot as plt
x = range(6)
plt.plot(x, [xi**2 for xi in x])  # x and y, plots y=x^2 for six points
plt.savefig('plot.png')  # plt.show() will show instead of save

I don't think you can get much simpler that that.

-Eric






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From mark at microenh.com  Sat Dec  3 23:10:34 2011
From: mark at microenh.com (Mark Erbaugh)
Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 17:10:34 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] Simple XY Graphing
In-Reply-To: <CAJzarMNfZZgej8ZjWXFm3rxsCx5q4tgg0ncRNhPao5Ch9OsHDA@mail.gmail.com>
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On Dec 3, 2011, at 5:02 PM, Eric Floehr wrote:

> Mark,
> 
>  
> Eric,
> 
> Thanks.  I don't know anything about it, but I wonder if Matplotlib is overkill for what I need.  I don't need the hover-overs (at least not now).
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> I'm not exactly sure what you mean by overkill... yes matplotlib has a lot of capability.  But that doesn't mean it's hard to use or get started with for simple xy plots:
> 
> import matplotlib.pyplot as plt
> x = range(6)
> plt.plot(x, [xi**2 for xi in x])  # x and y, plots y=x^2 for six points
> plt.savefig('plot.png')  # plt.show() will show instead of save
> 
> I don't think you can get much simpler that that.

Okay, that's about as simple as my need, so it's worth looking into. I was concerned that there was a big (i.e MATLAB style) learning curve.

This will probably make it into my presentation for Monday <g>.

Thanks,
Mark

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From eric at intellovations.com  Sat Dec  3 23:04:48 2011
From: eric at intellovations.com (Eric Floehr)
Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 17:04:48 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] Simple XY Graphing
In-Reply-To: <CAJzarMNfZZgej8ZjWXFm3rxsCx5q4tgg0ncRNhPao5Ch9OsHDA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E90432B6-69DC-4275-A493-3C026A68AF25@microenh.com>
	<CAJzarMOC-yMuAJ5_BkdqwTC3=pFzzB1wO97CFFd_8UfiVyZXhg@mail.gmail.com>
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Oh, and here is the plot that those four lines of code make:

http://i.imgur.com/3uzjl.png

-Eric



On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Eric Floehr <eric at intellovations.com> wrote:

> Mark,
>
>
>
>>  Eric,
>>
>> Thanks.  I don't know anything about it, but I wonder if Matplotlib is
>> overkill for what I need.  I don't need the hover-overs (at least not now).
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>
> I'm not exactly sure what you mean by overkill... yes matplotlib has a lot
> of capability.  But that doesn't mean it's hard to use or get started with
> for simple xy plots:
>
> import matplotlib.pyplot as plt
> x = range(6)
> plt.plot(x, [xi**2 for xi in x])  # x and y, plots y=x^2 for six points
> plt.savefig('plot.png')  # plt.show() will show instead of save
>
> I don't think you can get much simpler that that.
>
> -Eric
>
>
>
>
>
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From eric at intellovations.com  Sat Dec  3 23:17:51 2011
From: eric at intellovations.com (Eric Floehr)
Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 17:17:51 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] Simple XY Graphing
In-Reply-To: <61DBCA93-ABA5-4FF8-A497-870EC262201F@microenh.com>
References: <E90432B6-69DC-4275-A493-3C026A68AF25@microenh.com>
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Mark,



> Okay, that's about as simple as my need, so it's worth looking into. I was
> concerned that there was a big (i.e MATLAB style) learning curve.
>
> This will probably make it into my presentation for Monday <g>.
>
>
Cool!  Matplotlib's documentation is stellar... it's a model for any
project.  There's a nice gallery with source code you can rip off to
recreate similar plots.  Also, the tutorial is worth looking at to take the
next steps after those four lines:
http://matplotlib.sourceforge.net/users/pyplot_tutorial.html

The nice thing is, that at least on linux (maybe Windows too, I don't
know), plt.show() will pop up a GUI window with the plot, even if you are
running in a local terminal.  So it's very interactive.

-Eric
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From godber at gmail.com  Sun Dec  4 00:09:30 2011
From: godber at gmail.com (Austin Godber)
Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 16:09:30 -0700
Subject: [CentralOH] Simple XY Graphing
In-Reply-To: <4413B2F1-093B-4503-8D94-E106B6ACE903@microenh.com>
References: <E90432B6-69DC-4275-A493-3C026A68AF25@microenh.com>
	<CAJzarMOC-yMuAJ5_BkdqwTC3=pFzzB1wO97CFFd_8UfiVyZXhg@mail.gmail.com>
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Matplotlib is fantastic, I don't dispute that in the slightest. ?But
as it turns out, the dygraphs library is pretty simple. ?I have been
wanting to provide dynamic plots of spectra, rather than just static
image (mainly to easily enable and disable different lines).

With just some simple HTML and an already existing CSV file, I can put
this graph up in just a few seconds:

http://s3.godber.org/spectra/index.html (see the source)

http://s3.godber.org/spectra/mcwmonof0_norm_debayer_B.csv

Austin



On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Mark Erbaugh <mark at microenh.com> wrote:
> Austin,
>
> Thanks. ?I think my graphing needs are really simple. No need for anything fancy. I think a simple image (bmp or png or gif). ?Right now the rest of the application runs w/o Javascript.
>
> Mark
>
> On Dec 3, 2011, at 3:48 PM, Austin Godber wrote:
>
>> You could generate the data in python and then use a javascript
>> library to generate a chart.
>>
>> http://dygraphs.com/
>>
>> Or any of the things here http://delicious.com/godber/javascript+chart
>>
>> The benefit is you could do more dynamic things than with an image
>> (reporting values while hovering over the points). ?A disadvantage of
>> course is that static images are readily supported across browsers.
>>
>> This
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 8:13 AM, Thomas Winningham <winningham at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> For fully customized and accurate scatter plots for statistics, I
>>> think Eric's suggestion can't be beat on Python. I've played with a
>>> lot of other libraries for just really basic and general drawing, and
>>> those include PyCairo, PySVG, Python Imaging Library (just manipulate
>>> pixels) and then OpenGL things such as PyGame, NodeBox, etc ...
>>> PyCairo and PySVG are great for print, but the fastest way to get a
>>> bitmap is maybe PIL?
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Mark Erbaugh <mark at microenh.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 3, 2011, at 9:16 AM, Eric Floehr wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Mark,
>>>> I'd use matplotlib. ?The book "Matplotlib for Python Developers" has examples for dynamically generating graphs within Django and Pylons. ?I'm sure there are also examples on the web.
>>>> If you want to use a client library, so you can have hover-overs, etc. or ajax... I use the javascript plotting library Highcharts http://www.highcharts.com/ ?it's free for non-commercial use.
>>>> -Eric
>>>>
>>>> Eric,
>>>> Thanks. ?I don't know anything about it, but I wonder if Matplotlib is overkill for what I need. ?I don't need the hover-overs (at least not now).
>>>> Mark
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From jep200404 at columbus.rr.com  Tue Dec  6 03:58:53 2011
From: jep200404 at columbus.rr.com (jep200404 at columbus.rr.com)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 21:58:53 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] Places
Message-ID: <20111205215853.4c55ea9d.jep200404@columbus.rr.com>

Two regular gatherings were mentioned at tonight's Python meeting: 

   Code and Coffee
   7am Thursdays at 
   1277 Grandview Avenue
   http://www.staufs.com/content.aspx?page=grandviewstore

   tech lunch (cars, computers, electronics, planes, ...)
   lunchtime on Fridays
   find empty seat at big table, sit down and introduce yourself
   Yin-Yue Restaurant
   1236 E Hudson St (0.9 East of I-71)
   http://yinyue-rest.com/index.html


From huwigs at acm.org  Tue Dec  6 14:17:24 2011
From: huwigs at acm.org (Steven Huwig)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 08:17:24 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] Python on Ubuntu Question
In-Reply-To: <CADYFESFB17_MgXFyTBSobe=jmSWYEA2qPjDpdbiwDcnfYiB+8Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <00da01ccaf8c$91fed120$b5fc7360$@atlantixeng.com>
	<CAJShLf8rUO2_N0kNLtn4pN-Qd1x+sHPQXXc0T_h0kPOj5VNCbA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CADYFESFB17_MgXFyTBSobe=jmSWYEA2qPjDpdbiwDcnfYiB+8Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A059FB29-A156-40E1-BB36-4AC761FF1780@acm.org>

As I recall, there are many reasons Stackless isn't now in Python:

- it would break existing C library bindings, and make embedding and extending CPython much more difficult.

- when it was active, it targeted x86 only, but SPARC and PowerPC were significant players among many Python users.

- It would be too difficult to support its semantics in Jython

- It would be much more work for the maintainers.

It was basically a pronouncement from Guido that it won't go in. Frankly I think it was the right choice -- PyPy is a much better long-term platform for that kind of work than CPython is.

Thanks,
Steve

On Nov 30, 2011, at 1:46 PM, Bryan Harris wrote:

> If you want to get higher performance out of a python program by using
> more than one core, you basically have to use stackless or processing.
> Threading can never use more than one core.
> 
> Stackless sounds like a nice solution and frankly I don't know why
> stackless hasn't just merged into the main python tree.  As it is,
> stackless is a PITA to get set up and the performance isn't that
> different for most things.  It would be nice to take away recursion
> limits and such.
> 
> Does anybody know what the disadvantages of stackless are?  Why hasn't
> default python interpreter gone stackless?  Is there a performance hit
> in some situations?
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From jep200404 at columbus.rr.com  Tue Dec  6 18:57:25 2011
From: jep200404 at columbus.rr.com (jep200404 at columbus.rr.com)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 12:57:25 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] Meeting Dates
Message-ID: <20111206125725.67b945cd.jep200404@columbus.rr.com>

Which Mondays does Central Ohio Python normally meet on? 
Fourth Mondays or last Mondays? 


From eric at intellovations.com  Tue Dec  6 19:06:49 2011
From: eric at intellovations.com (Eric Floehr)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 13:06:49 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] Meeting Dates
In-Reply-To: <20111206125725.67b945cd.jep200404@columbus.rr.com>
References: <20111206125725.67b945cd.jep200404@columbus.rr.com>
Message-ID: <CAJzarMP9tQMGMWbaUdzTxiBELNxWOVvOMZxWhVba8ubiu4K8Mg@mail.gmail.com>

It meets on the last Monday of the month, save for November/December which
due to the holidays is a single combined meeting historically in early
December.

The next meeting will be January 30, 2012.

-Eric


On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 12:57 PM, <jep200404 at columbus.rr.com> wrote:

> Which Mondays does Central Ohio Python normally meet on?
> Fourth Mondays or last Mondays?
>
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From jep200404 at columbus.rr.com  Tue Dec  6 04:06:58 2011
From: jep200404 at columbus.rr.com (jep200404 at columbus.rr.com)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 22:06:58 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] Places: Code and Coffee URL
In-Reply-To: <20111205215853.4c55ea9d.jep200404@columbus.rr.com>
References: <20111205215853.4c55ea9d.jep200404@columbus.rr.com>
Message-ID: <20111205220658.1aab4e94.jep200404@columbus.rr.com>

On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 21:58:53 -0500, jep200404 at columbus.rr.com wrote:

>    Code and Coffee
>    7am Thursdays at 
>    1277 Grandview Avenue
>    http://www.staufs.com/content.aspx?page=grandviewstore

http://codeandcoffee.info/location/list


From mark at microenh.com  Wed Dec  7 20:05:27 2011
From: mark at microenh.com (Mark Erbaugh)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 14:05:27 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] Determine Travel Time
Message-ID: <2B3F6B3C-75C2-439D-91D9-36646F09BDD5@microenh.com>

I have an idea for a website (Pyramid-based, of course) that needs to calculate approximate travel time between addresses.  At this point, I'm not interested in driving directions or maps, just travel time.  It looks like this usage is not consistent with Google Maps terms of service, even for the Premier level. Also pricing for the Premier level "starts" at $10K.

Is anyone aware of alternatives?

FWIW, the travel time calculation doesn't have to be done online. It could be set up so that I periodically download the addresses to one of my own computers, do the calculations there and upload the results.

I was considering something like Microsoft or DeLorme travel planning software. I have older versions of both, but neither seem to have an API that could be used to feed in addresses and get results, they appear to be designed for "manual" processing.  Does anyone know if newer versions are any different?  Is anyone aware of a Python API to either program?

I also briefly looked at OpenStreetMap, but didn't get too far with that.  Does anyone know of Python interfaces to OpenStreetMap and whether it might be usable in my project? 

Thanks,
Mark

From brian.costlow at gmail.com  Wed Dec  7 20:39:31 2011
From: brian.costlow at gmail.com (Brian Costlow)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 14:39:31 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] Determine Travel Time
In-Reply-To: <2B3F6B3C-75C2-439D-91D9-36646F09BDD5@microenh.com>
References: <2B3F6B3C-75C2-439D-91D9-36646F09BDD5@microenh.com>
Message-ID: <CACLJ_dGY-i+8u_v2GbPdtjfZ33QhZaovw44DmhdUdTVLZLqU6w@mail.gmail.com>

Mark,

Don't know of anything personally that I have used, but I saw a
presentation on Postgresql geospcial stuff a few years ago where they were
adding the PostGIS and PgRouting add-ons to Postgres, using a tool that (I
think) came with PgRouting to get OpenStreetMap data bulk loaded into
Postgres.

They then had a Python script that would generate charts of shortest
driving distance between two points by querying Postgres.

I don't know if drive *times* are available from the data though.

But it might be a place to start.



On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Mark Erbaugh <mark at microenh.com> wrote:

> I have an idea for a website (Pyramid-based, of course) that needs to
> calculate approximate travel time between addresses.  At this point, I'm
> not interested in driving directions or maps, just travel time.  It looks
> like this usage is not consistent with Google Maps terms of service, even
> for the Premier level. Also pricing for the Premier level "starts" at $10K.
>
> Is anyone aware of alternatives?
>
> FWIW, the travel time calculation doesn't have to be done online. It could
> be set up so that I periodically download the addresses to one of my own
> computers, do the calculations there and upload the results.
>
> I was considering something like Microsoft or DeLorme travel planning
> software. I have older versions of both, but neither seem to have an API
> that could be used to feed in addresses and get results, they appear to be
> designed for "manual" processing.  Does anyone know if newer versions are
> any different?  Is anyone aware of a Python API to either program?
>
> I also briefly looked at OpenStreetMap, but didn't get too far with that.
>  Does anyone know of Python interfaces to OpenStreetMap and whether it
> might be usable in my project?
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
> _______________________________________________
> CentralOH mailing list
> CentralOH at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/centraloh
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From scott.scites at railcar88.com  Thu Dec  8 07:04:51 2011
From: scott.scites at railcar88.com (Scott Scites)
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 01:04:51 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] Pyramid Tweens
Message-ID: <CA+p7dVomE6mC6Q2Pt5_iC+_9Wvf-VBNzGEAX_SH3U34Zcv2vpA@mail.gmail.com>

At the Monday, COhPy meeting, there was a question about what Pyramid
Tweens are and how they might be useful.

A timely Alex Conrad blog post appeared tonight about tweens:
http://www.alexconrad.org/

He explains what it is, how it works and why it may be useful.

Here is the Pyramid Tweens link to the presention slides:
http://www.slideshare.net/aconrad/alex-conrad-pyramid-tweens-ploneconf-2011

Here is the link to the presentation video (Warning: it uses Flash):
https://www.fuzemeeting.com/replay_meeting/e8fc89a0/2204297

Happy hacking!

Scott Scites
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From mark at microenh.com  Thu Dec  8 15:45:33 2011
From: mark at microenh.com (Mark Erbaugh)
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 09:45:33 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] (Pyramid) Web Design
Message-ID: <01FD4723-FC9D-42B3-B5E9-96DBE8E079F5@microenh.com>

In the demo pump sizing application that I showed during my presentation Monday night, I was keeping state information in a user record which is tied to the user id. That seemed like a good idea at the time, but what if two users log on with the same credentials? Obviously, the state information would become confused. 

One solution would be to use a different mechanism to hold state information. Perhaps there could be a unique record for each login, not just each user. The problem here would be how to expire the record, otherwise the database would fill up.

A better (IMO) solution would be to prevent the second logon with the same user id. The problem here is that the first user could have left the application wiithout formally logging out, which means if the application sets a flag indicating that the user is logged in, that flag might not get reset when the user is actually done.

How is this handled in real-world applications?

Thanks,
Mark

From winningham at gmail.com  Thu Dec  8 16:11:34 2011
From: winningham at gmail.com (Thomas Winningham)
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 10:11:34 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] (Pyramid) Web Design
In-Reply-To: <01FD4723-FC9D-42B3-B5E9-96DBE8E079F5@microenh.com>
References: <01FD4723-FC9D-42B3-B5E9-96DBE8E079F5@microenh.com>
Message-ID: <CAJShLf-YMBzXt9amU8Aw1Hr_=H8v102uExPdY7-NeK+pQ2MUGA@mail.gmail.com>

No you're spot on, session is maintained as a separate collection of a
state outside of credentials. I know Gmail for instance likes to also
inform you at the bottom of the page where all it has registered
sessions and what IP they come from and are currently, or have been,
logged in using your credentials.

Expiration is to just pick some time in the future to expire the data.
The stuff you'd want to expire would be things that need to be unique
per session only... everything else it makes sense that two logins
would see that data identically as it is updated and as they refresh.
You'd ideally want to make sure the database couldn't block or lock,
but I think those kinds of things are working better by default these
days.

Just my 2c! I wish you luck!!

On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Mark Erbaugh <mark at microenh.com> wrote:
> In the demo pump sizing application that I showed during my presentation Monday night, I was keeping state information in a user record which is tied to the user id. That seemed like a good idea at the time, but what if two users log on with the same credentials? Obviously, the state information would become confused.
>
> One solution would be to use a different mechanism to hold state information. Perhaps there could be a unique record for each login, not just each user. The problem here would be how to expire the record, otherwise the database would fill up.
>
> A better (IMO) solution would be to prevent the second logon with the same user id. The problem here is that the first user could have left the application wiithout formally logging out, which means if the application sets a flag indicating that the user is logged in, that flag might not get reset when the user is actually done.
>
> How is this handled in real-world applications?
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
> _______________________________________________
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> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/centraloh

From raymondchandleriii at gmail.com  Fri Dec  9 00:43:58 2011
From: raymondchandleriii at gmail.com (Raymond Chandler III)
Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 17:43:58 -0600
Subject: [CentralOH] CentralOH Digest, Vol 56, Issue 8
In-Reply-To: <mailman.29.1323342002.11617.centraloh@python.org>
References: <mailman.29.1323342002.11617.centraloh@python.org>
Message-ID: <4EE14BBE.3020006@gmail.com>

Mark,

Checkout PostGIS and GeoDjango. It's not pyramid but Django has a great 
GIS backend and integrates well with Google Maps.

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> I have an idea for a website (Pyramid-based, of course) that needs to calculate approximate travel time between addresses.  At this point, I'm not interested in driving directions or maps, just travel time.  It looks like this usage is not consistent with Google Maps terms of service, even for the Premier level. Also pricing for the Premier level "starts" at $10K.
>
> Is anyone aware of alternatives?
>
> FWIW, the travel time calculation doesn't have to be done online. It could be set up so that I periodically download the addresses to one of my own computers, do the calculations there and upload the results.
>
> I was considering something like Microsoft or DeLorme travel planning software. I have older versions of both, but neither seem to have an API that could be used to feed in addresses and get results, they appear to be designed for "manual" processing.  Does anyone know if newer versions are any different?  Is anyone aware of a Python API to either program?
>
> I also briefly looked at OpenStreetMap, but didn't get too far with that.  Does anyone know of Python interfaces to OpenStreetMap and whether it might be usable in my project?
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 14:39:31 -0500
> From: Brian Costlow<brian.costlow at gmail.com>
> To: "Mailing list for Central Ohio Python User Group (COhPy)"
> 	<centraloh at python.org>
> Subject: Re: [CentralOH] Determine Travel Time
> Message-ID:
> 	<CACLJ_dGY-i+8u_v2GbPdtjfZ33QhZaovw44DmhdUdTVLZLqU6w at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Mark,
>
> Don't know of anything personally that I have used, but I saw a
> presentation on Postgresql geospcial stuff a few years ago where they were
> adding the PostGIS and PgRouting add-ons to Postgres, using a tool that (I
> think) came with PgRouting to get OpenStreetMap data bulk loaded into
> Postgres.
>
> They then had a Python script that would generate charts of shortest
> driving distance between two points by querying Postgres.
>
> I don't know if drive *times* are available from the data though.
>
> But it might be a place to start.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Mark Erbaugh<mark at microenh.com>  wrote:
>
>> I have an idea for a website (Pyramid-based, of course) that needs to
>> calculate approximate travel time between addresses.  At this point, I'm
>> not interested in driving directions or maps, just travel time.  It looks
>> like this usage is not consistent with Google Maps terms of service, even
>> for the Premier level. Also pricing for the Premier level "starts" at $10K.
>>
>> Is anyone aware of alternatives?
>>
>> FWIW, the travel time calculation doesn't have to be done online. It could
>> be set up so that I periodically download the addresses to one of my own
>> computers, do the calculations there and upload the results.
>>
>> I was considering something like Microsoft or DeLorme travel planning
>> software. I have older versions of both, but neither seem to have an API
>> that could be used to feed in addresses and get results, they appear to be
>> designed for "manual" processing.  Does anyone know if newer versions are
>> any different?  Is anyone aware of a Python API to either program?
>>
>> I also briefly looked at OpenStreetMap, but didn't get too far with that.
>>   Does anyone know of Python interfaces to OpenStreetMap and whether it
>> might be usable in my project?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mark
>> _______________________________________________
>> CentralOH mailing list
>> CentralOH at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/centraloh
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 01:04:51 -0500
> From: Scott Scites<scott.scites at railcar88.com>
> To: centraloh<centraloh at python.org>
> Subject: [CentralOH] Pyramid Tweens
> Message-ID:
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> At the Monday, COhPy meeting, there was a question about what Pyramid
> Tweens are and how they might be useful.
>
> A timely Alex Conrad blog post appeared tonight about tweens:
> http://www.alexconrad.org/
>
> He explains what it is, how it works and why it may be useful.
>
> Here is the Pyramid Tweens link to the presention slides:
> http://www.slideshare.net/aconrad/alex-conrad-pyramid-tweens-ploneconf-2011
>
> Here is the link to the presentation video (Warning: it uses Flash):
> https://www.fuzemeeting.com/replay_meeting/e8fc89a0/2204297
>
> Happy hacking!
>
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From jep200404 at columbus.rr.com  Tue Dec 13 21:30:03 2011
From: jep200404 at columbus.rr.com (jep200404 at columbus.rr.com)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:30:03 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] Missing Exceptions?
Message-ID: <20111213153003.2f49a454.jep200404@columbus.rr.com>

I wrote: 

    try:
        float(s)
    except (ValueError):

Later I realized that I had missed an exception, 
so the code was updated to: 

    try:
        float(s)
    except (ValueError, TypeError):  # !!! What exception names am I missing?

How does one determine what all the relevant exceptions are? 
How does one conclude that the the list of exceptions is complete? 

Those questions are general, about all try/except stuff, 
not just my little example. 


From jep200404 at columbus.rr.com  Tue Dec 13 22:09:24 2011
From: jep200404 at columbus.rr.com (jep200404 at columbus.rr.com)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:09:24 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] =?utf-8?b?bWVudGlvbmVkIGF0IOmBk+WgtA==?=
Message-ID: <20111213160924.29061e8c.jep200404@columbus.rr.com>

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Netcat
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/GNU_Screen
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Tmux
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Disown_(unix)
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Nohup

From winningham at gmail.com  Tue Dec 13 22:16:17 2011
From: winningham at gmail.com (Thomas Winningham)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:16:17 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] Missing Exceptions?
In-Reply-To: <20111213153003.2f49a454.jep200404@columbus.rr.com>
References: <20111213153003.2f49a454.jep200404@columbus.rr.com>
Message-ID: <CAJShLf9oEfiR5tEB5+o8rqALorwrnNN-i=M=CGQdn9XU8ntBig@mail.gmail.com>

You should be able to capture anything that is a subclass of the Base
Exception, and then infer the type of exception from there. The only
real need for itemizing exceptions is when there is one you know will
happen that you have a solution for, so you want the operation of the
program to continue, but you want other exceptions to go ahead and not
be caught and then let the whole program fall on the floor at that
point.

If you want to just completely implement your own error handling as a
whole and allow operation to continue short of a segfault or some
other nasty bug or just running out of memory something, then you can
just catch any and all exceptions.

Sorry I don't have specific examples, but I wanted to provide a
general narrative around the concept. For a lot of other languages
that are strongly typed, you pretty much have to specify what
exceptions you are trapping for right? I guess I'm thinking Java,
maybe.

Anyway, best of luck, I'm sure someone else has some ideas?

On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:30 PM,  <jep200404 at columbus.rr.com> wrote:
> I wrote:
>
> ? ?try:
> ? ? ? ?float(s)
> ? ?except (ValueError):
>
> Later I realized that I had missed an exception,
> so the code was updated to:
>
> ? ?try:
> ? ? ? ?float(s)
> ? ?except (ValueError, TypeError): ?# !!! What exception names am I missing?
>
> How does one determine what all the relevant exceptions are?
> How does one conclude that the the list of exceptions is complete?
>
> Those questions are general, about all try/except stuff,
> not just my little example.
>
> _______________________________________________
> CentralOH mailing list
> CentralOH at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/centraloh

From brian.costlow at gmail.com  Tue Dec 13 22:24:13 2011
From: brian.costlow at gmail.com (Brian Costlow)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:24:13 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] Missing Exceptions?
In-Reply-To: <20111213153003.2f49a454.jep200404@columbus.rr.com>
References: <20111213153003.2f49a454.jep200404@columbus.rr.com>
Message-ID: <CACLJ_dFqeppfA3yOpogM5u4Rik9tnHXPF9Nh3L_=W3zFVmkTVA@mail.gmail.com>

You can look at the doc for the module in question, or just trawl the
source.

But that might not even help, because the source will show you exceptions
the module explicitly raises, but not all the ones that code the module
calls might raise.

But IMHO the zen of exceptions is to catch the ones you can handle and do
something about at a given point.

Otherwise, let them bubble up to something that can, especially if you're
writing module/library code that calls modules that you didn't write.

Even if you are writing an app, probably better to just catch what you can
handle in local try blocks, let everything else bubble, and catch anything
not handled elsewhere in main just so you can exit the app with a graceful
message to the user instead of dumping a stack trace.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:30 PM, <jep200404 at columbus.rr.com> wrote:

> I wrote:
>
>    try:
>        float(s)
>    except (ValueError):
>
> Later I realized that I had missed an exception,
> so the code was updated to:
>
>    try:
>        float(s)
>    except (ValueError, TypeError):  # !!! What exception names am I
> missing?
>
> How does one determine what all the relevant exceptions are?
> How does one conclude that the the list of exceptions is complete?
>
> Those questions are general, about all try/except stuff,
> not just my little example.
>
> _______________________________________________
> CentralOH mailing list
> CentralOH at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/centraloh
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From eric at intellovations.com  Tue Dec 13 21:40:50 2011
From: eric at intellovations.com (Eric Floehr)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:40:50 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] Missing Exceptions?
In-Reply-To: <20111213153003.2f49a454.jep200404@columbus.rr.com>
References: <20111213153003.2f49a454.jep200404@columbus.rr.com>
Message-ID: <CAJzarMNiP9BK9ensSr3ckVF6Ds9X4gSF-gAujFJByHoK-oQq0Q@mail.gmail.com>

Since Python is a dynamic language, there is no "compiler enforced"
exception listing, like say with Java.  So there is no way to know other
than via method documentation or code inspection.

In cases where you don't know, you can chain multiple except clauses
catching different exceptions if you want different behavior, and the last
one can just be a raw except which acts as a wildcard and catch all
exceptions not previously trapped, like:

try:
    ...
except:
    print "Unexpected error:", sys.exc_info()[0]
    raise # (or sys.exit(1) or whatever)

-Eric


On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:30 PM, <jep200404 at columbus.rr.com> wrote:

> I wrote:
>
>    try:
>        float(s)
>    except (ValueError):
>
> Later I realized that I had missed an exception,
> so the code was updated to:
>
>    try:
>        float(s)
>    except (ValueError, TypeError):  # !!! What exception names am I
> missing?
>
> How does one determine what all the relevant exceptions are?
> How does one conclude that the the list of exceptions is complete?
>
> Those questions are general, about all try/except stuff,
> not just my little example.
>
> _______________________________________________
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From jep200404 at columbus.rr.com  Tue Dec 13 23:01:56 2011
From: jep200404 at columbus.rr.com (jep200404 at columbus.rr.com)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 17:01:56 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] Missing Exceptions?: Empty except to be avoided?
In-Reply-To: <CAJzarMNiP9BK9ensSr3ckVF6Ds9X4gSF-gAujFJByHoK-oQq0Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20111213153003.2f49a454.jep200404@columbus.rr.com>
	<CAJzarMNiP9BK9ensSr3ckVF6Ds9X4gSF-gAujFJByHoK-oQq0Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20111213170156.3f9504fb.jep200404@columbus.rr.com>

On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:40:50 -0500, Eric Floehr <eric at intellovations.com> wrote:

> > How does one determine what all the relevant exceptions are?
> > How does one conclude that the the list of exceptions is complete?

> ... there is no way to know other
> than via method documentation or code inspection.

Ugg. 

> ... a raw except which acts as a wildcard and catch all
> exceptions not previously trapped, like:
> 
> try:
>     ...
> except:
>     print "Unexpected error:", sys.exc_info()[0]
>     raise # (or sys.exit(1) or whatever)

I thought that empty except clauses were usually to be 
avoided. For example, because they might catch exceptions 
unrelated to the try code, such as a keyboard interrupt.[1]

[1] p885 of Learning Python 4th ed. 2011-05-20 printing


From winningham at gmail.com  Wed Dec 14 00:23:53 2011
From: winningham at gmail.com (Thomas Winningham)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 18:23:53 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] Missing Exceptions?: Empty except to be avoided?
In-Reply-To: <20111213170156.3f9504fb.jep200404@columbus.rr.com>
References: <20111213153003.2f49a454.jep200404@columbus.rr.com>
	<CAJzarMNiP9BK9ensSr3ckVF6Ds9X4gSF-gAujFJByHoK-oQq0Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<20111213170156.3f9504fb.jep200404@columbus.rr.com>
Message-ID: <CAJShLf9UFHNqJthLD5cptOKx4vONGNUHfrjrJqjqXcX+O7QOyA@mail.gmail.com>

Well, yes, that's very very true, in fact I'd go on to say that using
exception handling might be an extreme measure in Python. Some use
exception handling as a means to test validity, when just codifying
the idea of validity directly against the input, rather than waiting
for an exception.

I think in Java it makes a lot of sense, because you're accounting for
all types and just everything about the life cycle of objects usually,
short of perhaps removal if you want to rely on the garbage collector
like Python, but the static type nature of everything allows for
rigorous adherence and all the pros and cons that entails.

It all depends on how you frame the problem, and at what level you
want to operate. The only time I feel that I've used try/catch in
Python is with completely untrusted data, where I can't make any
assumptions or even check it perhaps because the possibilities would
be endless, or for capturing things like ctrl+break to allow me to
shut down threads nicely.

However in Java an exception can be a valid result from a function
call because that's the formal API to library, or this is a mechanism
by which multiple states can be returned. Again even in Java you don't
have to do this, but it is a common method. You can operate that way
in Python as well, the convention is to perhaps deal with items
outside of try/catch.

Introspection in the command line can be a great help, and with
Test-Driven Development you can achieve the formalism you're looking
for even with non-documented code on the fly, given that your test
cases represent the extent of your problem.

I think you're not crazy in feeling that Python is sloppy or doesn't
make sense in this regard, but under the context of dynamic
programming, it isn't too terrible, and perhaps encourages not over
using exceptions as a whole, for the philosophical reason that if you
expect there to be some kind of problem, then that isn't technically a
low-level exception, but rather more logic that just needs to be
coded, and perhaps even without an exception.

Best of luck, you're not wrong, and any way you do it is the right way!

Thomas

On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 5:01 PM,  <jep200404 at columbus.rr.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:40:50 -0500, Eric Floehr <eric at intellovations.com> wrote:
>
>> > How does one determine what all the relevant exceptions are?
>> > How does one conclude that the the list of exceptions is complete?
>
>> ... there is no way to know other
>> than via method documentation or code inspection.
>
> Ugg.
>
>> ... a raw except which acts as a wildcard and catch all
>> exceptions not previously trapped, like:
>>
>> try:
>> ? ? ...
>> except:
>> ? ? print "Unexpected error:", sys.exc_info()[0]
>> ? ? raise # (or sys.exit(1) or whatever)
>
> I thought that empty except clauses were usually to be
> avoided. For example, because they might catch exceptions
> unrelated to the try code, such as a keyboard interrupt.[1]
>
> [1] p885 of Learning Python 4th ed. 2011-05-20 printing
>
> _______________________________________________
> CentralOH mailing list
> CentralOH at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/centraloh

From mark at microenh.com  Wed Dec 14 21:51:29 2011
From: mark at microenh.com (Mark Erbaugh)
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 15:51:29 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] Virtualenv and Idle on the Mac
Message-ID: <D7134F1B-0645-4F11-B265-DE0A373B887B@microenh.com>

I use virtualenv for most of my Python development.  I also like the Idle Python IDE. Unfortunately, on Mac OSX 10.6, IDLE is seriously broken.  See http://www.python.org/download/mac/tcltk/. Even in a virtualenv, the default idle is /usr/bin/idle which runs doesn't respect the virtualenv and has a bunch of other problems, so I copy my idle script to the bin directory of the virtualenv.  Here's the idle script I came up with:

> #! /usr/bin/env python
> 
> import os
> 
> def fork_idle():
>     pid = os.fork()
>     if pid == 0:
>         from idlelib import macosxSupport
>         macosxSupport._appbundle = True
>         from idlelib.PyShell import main
>         main()
> 
> if __name__ == '__main__':
>     fork_idle()


This forks a process so that once I launch idle in a terminal window, I can continue to use the terminal window and so that idle will continue to run if I close the terminal window. It also causes idle to run as an OSX app which slightly changes the GUI appearance to comply with Mac OSX guidelines.

The one thing that is still broken with this script is the Python Docs option under the Help menu. This loads the documentation from the python.org website rather than the local copy into the web browser.  This is setup in idlelib.EditorWindow and I determined that if I set up a symlink to /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Resources named Resources in the virtualenv home folder the Python Docs option would load the local copy.

So my process was create a virtualenv, copy my idle script to the bin folder and create the symlink in the home folder. I poked around in virtualenv.py and found that if present, it will call an after_install function. Here's what I came up with that automatically sets up idle in the new virtualenv:

> IDLE = """#! /usr/bin/env python
> 
> import os
> 
> def fork_idle():
>     pid = os.fork()
>     if pid == 0:
>         from idlelib import macosxSupport
>         macosxSupport._appbundle = True
>         from idlelib.PyShell import main
>         main()
> 
> if __name__ == '__main__':
>     fork_idle()"""
> 
> 
> def after_install(options, home_dir):
>     idle_name = os.path.join(home_dir, 'bin', 'idle')
>     with open(idle_name, 'wt') as f:
>         f.write(IDLE)
>     os.chmod(idle_name, 0755)
>     os.symlink('/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Resources',
>                os.path.join(home_dir, 'Resources'))


I hope this helps someone.

Mark


BTW, I normally use vi to edit Python files, but for poking around and trying things out idle is quite useful.  When I edit virtualenv.py in vi, I discovered an anomoly.  I have syntax coloring enabled and at the top of the file it works fine. If I jump to the bottom, the syntax coloring is messed up.  Above the if __name__ == '__main__' idiom at the bottom of the file there are several base64 encoded binary strings. It seems like one (or more) of these is messing up the syntax coloring.  Hitting ctrl-L from the bottom of the file doesn't fix the syntax coloring, but if I page up (ctrl-B) a page and hit ctrl-L it does fix syntax coloring.


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From jep200404 at columbus.rr.com  Sun Dec 18 14:46:22 2011
From: jep200404 at columbus.rr.com (jep200404 at columbus.rr.com)
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 08:46:22 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] GitHub Repository For Pygame Examples
Message-ID: <20111218084622.080f83bc.jep200404@columbus.rr.com>

GitHub Repository For Pygame Examples
http://flossstuff.wordpress.com/2011/12/17/github-repository-for-pygame-examples/

From brian at python.org  Fri Dec 23 03:04:39 2011
From: brian at python.org (Brian Curtin)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 20:04:39 -0600
Subject: [CentralOH] PyCon 2012 News - Tutorials, Talks, and Tickets
Message-ID: <4EF3E1B7.3010505@python.org>

We are now 75 days away from PyCon 2012 in Santa Clara ? it's hard to think about how quickly time has flown since PyCon 2011! We've lined up some great keynote and plenary speakers, announced the tutorial and talk selections, opened ticket sales, and have expanded financial aid opportunities. The community and our amazing array of sponsors have helped us break several records already, so we hope you're as excited about PyCon 2012 as we are. The conference runs March 7-15 at the Santa Clara Convention Center in Santa Clara, CA.

The keynote speakers include Y Combinator investor Paul Graham and Mozilla's Head of Developer Engagement, Stormy Peters. Both of them bring interesting experience to the table, and they're both captivating speakers. Speaking of captivating, Dave Beazley was announced on the plenary track, with more to be added in the coming weeks. Guido ? our Benevolent Dictator For Life ? will also be joining the line up!

With 483 tutorial, talk, and poster proposals submitted this year, the program committee had their hands full paring that list down to 95 talks, 32 tutorials, and 36 posters (which we're still accepting). In the little time since we made these announcements we've heard a lot of excitement. You can see the tutorial selections at https://us.pycon.org/2012/schedule/lists/tutorials/, with talks available at https://us.pycon.org/2012/schedule/lists/talks/.

Tickets are now available with early bird rates available until January 10, 2012 at https://us.pycon.org/2012/registration. Tutorial and admission prices continue unchanged; if you've been following along the last few years, these rates are the same as they have been for several years. Our team's dedication to keeping PyCon cost-effective, community driven, and grassroots continues thanks to the hard work and support of the team and sponsors (https://us.pycon.org/2012/sponsors/).

If financial assistance would make PyCon a possibility for you, we encourage you to apply to this year's expanded assistance program. With a deadline of January 7, 2012 (extended from January 2) and a new web-based application, the financial aid committee aims to make the trip, lodging, and a ticket a possibility for everyone. Thanks to a new partnership with the PyLadies organization, we're able to provide grants to women in the community who are interested in experiencing the conference. For full details see https://us.pycon.org/2012/assistance.

For more information about PyCon 2012, see our site at https://us.pycon.org/2012/. We also publish news on our blog: http://pycon.blogspot.com/.

Jesse Noller - Chairman
jnoller at python.org

Brian Curtin - Publicity Coordinator
brian at python.org

From brandon at rhodesmill.org  Fri Dec 23 03:48:19 2011
From: brandon at rhodesmill.org (Brandon Craig Rhodes)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 21:48:19 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] PyCon 2012 News - Tutorials, Talks, and Tickets
In-Reply-To: <4EF3E1B7.3010505@python.org> (Brian Curtin's message of "Thu, 22
	Dec 2011 20:04:39 -0600")
References: <4EF3E1B7.3010505@python.org>
Message-ID: <877h1oype4.fsf@asaph.rhodesmill.org>

With March coming up quickly, it will help me to have the chance to
practice my two presentations that have been accepted for PyCon 2012:

    Flexing SQLAlchemy's Relational Power
    Python, Linkers, and Virtual Memory

Would there be any chance of my presenting one of these at the January,
and the other at the February, COhPy meeting?  (And when exactly is the
January meeting, by the way - I am going to attend CodeMash, and have
been hoping the dates do not conflict?)

I also will be giving two tutorials at PyCon, one of which I have never
given before:

    SQL for Python Developers

I might be tempted to drive into Columbus early in the day of the
Feburary COhPy meeting, and give the tutorial for free that afternoon to
anyone who wants to show up and help me debug it; we will see if anyone
is interested!

-- 
Brandon Craig Rhodes   brandon at rhodesmill.org   http://rhodesmill.org/brandon

From brian.costlow at gmail.com  Fri Dec 23 06:20:38 2011
From: brian.costlow at gmail.com (Brian Costlow)
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 00:20:38 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] PyCon 2012 News - Tutorials, Talks, and Tickets
In-Reply-To: <877h1oype4.fsf@asaph.rhodesmill.org>
References: <4EF3E1B7.3010505@python.org> <877h1oype4.fsf@asaph.rhodesmill.org>
Message-ID: <CACLJ_dGWsS=hiepuZtQ5e66G98KnzV2niDEb7fz2FhmX7GJw7A@mail.gmail.com>

Brandon,

I know we don't have a speaker yet for February, so you are on for sure
then.

I don't think we have one for January yet either, but Eric may have
something lined up I don't know about.

Meetings are always the last Monday of the month, except for November and
December. (We have a combined Nov-Dec meeting in early December because of
the holidays). So January will be on the 30th.



On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Brandon Craig Rhodes <
brandon at rhodesmill.org> wrote:

> With March coming up quickly, it will help me to have the chance to
> practice my two presentations that have been accepted for PyCon 2012:
>
>    Flexing SQLAlchemy's Relational Power
>    Python, Linkers, and Virtual Memory
>
> Would there be any chance of my presenting one of these at the January,
> and the other at the February, COhPy meeting?  (And when exactly is the
> January meeting, by the way - I am going to attend CodeMash, and have
> been hoping the dates do not conflict?)
>
> I also will be giving two tutorials at PyCon, one of which I have never
> given before:
>
>    SQL for Python Developers
>
> I might be tempted to drive into Columbus early in the day of the
> Feburary COhPy meeting, and give the tutorial for free that afternoon to
> anyone who wants to show up and help me debug it; we will see if anyone
> is interested!
>
> --
> Brandon Craig Rhodes   brandon at rhodesmill.org
> http://rhodesmill.org/brandon
> _______________________________________________
> CentralOH mailing list
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From brian.costlow at gmail.com  Fri Dec 23 06:24:06 2011
From: brian.costlow at gmail.com (Brian Costlow)
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 00:24:06 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] Looking for meeting space.
Message-ID: <CACLJ_dG3ujM_X2+OJ4R-UnH84Ccbacmtgi2t9zW3OtC10BTSiA@mail.gmail.com>

All,

We are still looking for meeting space for our January 30th meeting.

If anyone has any ideas (or you or employer can provide space) please
contact Eric or me.

Thanks,

Brian
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From mark at microenh.com  Fri Dec 23 12:58:07 2011
From: mark at microenh.com (Mark Erbaugh)
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 06:58:07 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] Looking for meeting space.
In-Reply-To: <CACLJ_dG3ujM_X2+OJ4R-UnH84Ccbacmtgi2t9zW3OtC10BTSiA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACLJ_dG3ujM_X2+OJ4R-UnH84Ccbacmtgi2t9zW3OtC10BTSiA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FCABFF49-50CC-4DF8-9586-4C23CD5CA881@microenh.com>

Would people be interested in meeting at the Westland Public Library (site of the DoJo West)? It is located about 1 mile west of 270 on W Broad St. The only limitation is that the library closes (and we must be out) promptly at 9pm.


On Dec 23, 2011, at 12:24 AM, Brian Costlow wrote:

> All,
> 
> We are still looking for meeting space for our January 30th meeting.
> 
> If anyone has any ideas (or you or employer can provide space) please contact Eric or me.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Brian


From brian.costlow at gmail.com  Fri Dec 23 16:22:52 2011
From: brian.costlow at gmail.com (Brian Costlow)
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 10:22:52 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] Looking for meeting space.
In-Reply-To: <FCABFF49-50CC-4DF8-9586-4C23CD5CA881@microenh.com>
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Since it's in the same general area as 2CO, for those who have been to
both, which is better?



On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 6:58 AM, Mark Erbaugh <mark at microenh.com> wrote:

> Would people be interested in meeting at the Westland Public Library (site
> of the DoJo West)? It is located about 1 mile west of 270 on W Broad St.
> The only limitation is that the library closes (and we must be out)
> promptly at 9pm.
>
>
> On Dec 23, 2011, at 12:24 AM, Brian Costlow wrote:
>
> > All,
> >
> > We are still looking for meeting space for our January 30th meeting.
> >
> > If anyone has any ideas (or you or employer can provide space) please
> contact Eric or me.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Brian
>
> _______________________________________________
> CentralOH mailing list
> CentralOH at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/centraloh
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From mark at microenh.com  Fri Dec 23 16:38:50 2011
From: mark at microenh.com (Mark Erbaugh)
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 10:38:50 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] Looking for meeting space.
In-Reply-To: <CACLJ_dHCz6YMUjPnhBgziB-gtWrzibH01RYyw8=4YmULf3UChQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Between the two, I'd prefer 2CO.

Mark


On Dec 23, 2011, at 10:22 AM, Brian Costlow wrote:

> Since it's in the same general area as 2CO, for those who have been to both, which is better?
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 6:58 AM, Mark Erbaugh <mark at microenh.com> wrote:
> Would people be interested in meeting at the Westland Public Library (site of the DoJo West)? It is located about 1 mile west of 270 on W Broad St. The only limitation is that the library closes (and we must be out) promptly at 9pm.
> 
> 
> On Dec 23, 2011, at 12:24 AM, Brian Costlow wrote:
> 
> > All,
> >
> > We are still looking for meeting space for our January 30th meeting.
> >
> > If anyone has any ideas (or you or employer can provide space) please contact Eric or me.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Brian
> 
> _______________________________________________
> CentralOH mailing list
> CentralOH at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/centraloh
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From eric at intellovations.com  Fri Dec 23 17:01:40 2011
From: eric at intellovations.com (Eric Floehr)
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 11:01:40 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] PyCon 2012 News - Tutorials, Talks, and Tickets
In-Reply-To: <CACLJ_dGWsS=hiepuZtQ5e66G98KnzV2niDEb7fz2FhmX7GJw7A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4EF3E1B7.3010505@python.org> <877h1oype4.fsf@asaph.rhodesmill.org>
	<CACLJ_dGWsS=hiepuZtQ5e66G98KnzV2niDEb7fz2FhmX7GJw7A@mail.gmail.com>
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I have a flexible commitment for January, but can move him to March.  Will
be great to have the first three months of the year buttoned up!  Thanks
for volunteering and looking forward to your talks!

-Eric


On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 12:20 AM, Brian Costlow <brian.costlow at gmail.com>wrote:

> Brandon,
>
> I know we don't have a speaker yet for February, so you are on for sure
> then.
>
> I don't think we have one for January yet either, but Eric may have
> something lined up I don't know about.
>
> Meetings are always the last Monday of the month, except for November and
> December. (We have a combined Nov-Dec meeting in early December because of
> the holidays). So January will be on the 30th.
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Brandon Craig Rhodes <
> brandon at rhodesmill.org> wrote:
>
>> With March coming up quickly, it will help me to have the chance to
>> practice my two presentations that have been accepted for PyCon 2012:
>>
>>    Flexing SQLAlchemy's Relational Power
>>    Python, Linkers, and Virtual Memory
>>
>> Would there be any chance of my presenting one of these at the January,
>> and the other at the February, COhPy meeting?  (And when exactly is the
>> January meeting, by the way - I am going to attend CodeMash, and have
>> been hoping the dates do not conflict?)
>>
>> I also will be giving two tutorials at PyCon, one of which I have never
>> given before:
>>
>>    SQL for Python Developers
>>
>> I might be tempted to drive into Columbus early in the day of the
>> Feburary COhPy meeting, and give the tutorial for free that afternoon to
>> anyone who wants to show up and help me debug it; we will see if anyone
>> is interested!
>>
>> --
>> Brandon Craig Rhodes   brandon at rhodesmill.org
>> http://rhodesmill.org/brandon
>> _______________________________________________
>> CentralOH mailing list
>> CentralOH at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/centraloh
>>
>
>
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From brandon at rhodesmill.org  Fri Dec 23 17:23:35 2011
From: brandon at rhodesmill.org (Brandon Craig Rhodes)
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 11:23:35 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] PyCon 2012 News - Tutorials, Talks, and Tickets
In-Reply-To: <CACLJ_dGWsS=hiepuZtQ5e66G98KnzV2niDEb7fz2FhmX7GJw7A@mail.gmail.com>
	(Brian Costlow's message of "Fri, 23 Dec 2011 00:20:38 -0500")
References: <4EF3E1B7.3010505@python.org> <877h1oype4.fsf@asaph.rhodesmill.org>
	<CACLJ_dGWsS=hiepuZtQ5e66G98KnzV2niDEb7fz2FhmX7GJw7A@mail.gmail.com>
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Brian Costlow <brian.costlow at gmail.com> writes:

> I don't think we have one for January yet either, but Eric may have
> something lined up I don't know about.

What is the typical meeting format - how many people speak, and for how
long?  A PyCon talk is only 25 minutes, and thus will not make much of a
meeting, unless a *long* Q&A session ensues :) - or unless your meetings
are shorter than the two hours we usually aimed for (and usually
overshot!) for Python Atlanta?

-- 
Brandon Craig Rhodes   brandon at rhodesmill.org   http://rhodesmill.org/brandon

From gjigsaw at gmail.com  Fri Dec 23 18:07:05 2011
From: gjigsaw at gmail.com (Jason Green)
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 12:07:05 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] Looking for meeting space.
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Seconded.

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Mark Erbaugh <mark at microenh.com> wrote:

> Between the two, I'd prefer 2CO.
>
> Mark
>
>
> On Dec 23, 2011, at 10:22 AM, Brian Costlow wrote:
>
> Since it's in the same general area as 2CO, for those who have been to
> both, which is better?
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 6:58 AM, Mark Erbaugh <mark at microenh.com> wrote:
>
>> Would people be interested in meeting at the Westland Public Library
>> (site of the DoJo West)? It is located about 1 mile west of 270 on W Broad
>> St. The only limitation is that the library closes (and we must be out)
>> promptly at 9pm.
>>
>>
>> On Dec 23, 2011, at 12:24 AM, Brian Costlow wrote:
>>
>> > All,
>> >
>> > We are still looking for meeting space for our January 30th meeting.
>> >
>> > If anyone has any ideas (or you or employer can provide space) please
>> contact Eric or me.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Brian
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> CentralOH mailing list
>> CentralOH at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/centraloh
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From jon at hogue.org  Fri Dec 23 18:52:52 2011
From: jon at hogue.org (Jonathan Hogue)
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 12:52:52 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] Looking for meeting space.
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Any interest in Tech Columbus. As a member, I think we can get space
there for free.

Or I'd be happy to host at 2co.

From jon at hogue.org  Fri Dec 23 18:53:16 2011
From: jon at hogue.org (Jonathan Hogue)
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 12:53:16 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] Looking for meeting space.
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Correction: Any interest in Tech Columbus?

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Jonathan Hogue <jon at hogue.org> wrote:
> Any interest in Tech Columbus. As a member, I think we can get space
> there for free.
>
> Or I'd be happy to host at 2co.

From raymondchandleriii at gmail.com  Fri Dec 23 19:11:32 2011
From: raymondchandleriii at gmail.com (Raymond Chandler)
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 13:11:32 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] CentralOH Digest, Vol 56, Issue 15
In-Reply-To: <mailman.21310.1324657417.27777.centraloh@python.org>
References: <mailman.21310.1324657417.27777.centraloh@python.org>
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Why not tech columbus?

On Dec 23, 2011 11:23 AM, <centraloh-request at python.org> wrote:
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>   4. Re: PyCon 2012 News - Tutorials, Talks, and Tickets (Eric Floehr)
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>      (Brandon Craig Rhodes)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 06:58:07 -0500
> From: Mark Erbaugh <mark at microenh.com>
> To: "Mailing list for Central Ohio Python User Group \(COhPy\)"
>        <centraloh at python.org>
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> Would people be interested in meeting at the Westland Public Library
(site of the DoJo West)? It is located about 1 mile west of 270 on W Broad
St. The only limitation is that the library closes (and we must be out)
promptly at 9pm.
>
>
> On Dec 23, 2011, at 12:24 AM, Brian Costlow wrote:
>
> > All,
> >
> > We are still looking for meeting space for our January 30th meeting.
> >
> > If anyone has any ideas (or you or employer can provide space) please
contact Eric or me.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Brian
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 10:22:52 -0500
> From: Brian Costlow <brian.costlow at gmail.com>
> To: "Mailing list for Central Ohio Python User Group (COhPy)"
>        <centraloh at python.org>
> Subject: Re: [CentralOH] Looking for meeting space.
> Message-ID:
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>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Since it's in the same general area as 2CO, for those who have been to
> both, which is better?
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 6:58 AM, Mark Erbaugh <mark at microenh.com> wrote:
>
> > Would people be interested in meeting at the Westland Public Library
(site
> > of the DoJo West)? It is located about 1 mile west of 270 on W Broad St.
> > The only limitation is that the library closes (and we must be out)
> > promptly at 9pm.
> >
> >
> > On Dec 23, 2011, at 12:24 AM, Brian Costlow wrote:
> >
> > > All,
> > >
> > > We are still looking for meeting space for our January 30th meeting.
> > >
> > > If anyone has any ideas (or you or employer can provide space) please
> > contact Eric or me.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Brian
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CentralOH mailing list
> > CentralOH at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/centraloh
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> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 10:38:50 -0500
> From: Mark Erbaugh <mark at microenh.com>
> To: "Mailing list for Central Ohio Python User Group \(COhPy\)"
>        <centraloh at python.org>
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> Between the two, I'd prefer 2CO.
>
> Mark
>
>
> On Dec 23, 2011, at 10:22 AM, Brian Costlow wrote:
>
> > Since it's in the same general area as 2CO, for those who have been to
both, which is better?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 6:58 AM, Mark Erbaugh <mark at microenh.com> wrote:
> > Would people be interested in meeting at the Westland Public Library
(site of the DoJo West)? It is located about 1 mile west of 270 on W Broad
St. The only limitation is that the library closes (and we must be out)
promptly at 9pm.
> >
> >
> > On Dec 23, 2011, at 12:24 AM, Brian Costlow wrote:
> >
> > > All,
> > >
> > > We are still looking for meeting space for our January 30th meeting.
> > >
> > > If anyone has any ideas (or you or employer can provide space) please
contact Eric or me.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Brian
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CentralOH mailing list
> > CentralOH at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/centraloh
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> From: Eric Floehr <eric at intellovations.com>
> To: "Mailing list for Central Ohio Python User Group (COhPy)"
>        <centraloh at python.org>
> Subject: Re: [CentralOH] PyCon 2012 News - Tutorials, Talks, and
>        Tickets
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> I have a flexible commitment for January, but can move him to March.  Will
> be great to have the first three months of the year buttoned up!  Thanks
> for volunteering and looking forward to your talks!
>
> -Eric
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 12:20 AM, Brian Costlow <brian.costlow at gmail.com
>wrote:
>
> > Brandon,
> >
> > I know we don't have a speaker yet for February, so you are on for sure
> > then.
> >
> > I don't think we have one for January yet either, but Eric may have
> > something lined up I don't know about.
> >
> > Meetings are always the last Monday of the month, except for November
and
> > December. (We have a combined Nov-Dec meeting in early December because
of
> > the holidays). So January will be on the 30th.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Brandon Craig Rhodes <
> > brandon at rhodesmill.org> wrote:
> >
> >> With March coming up quickly, it will help me to have the chance to
> >> practice my two presentations that have been accepted for PyCon 2012:
> >>
> >>    Flexing SQLAlchemy's Relational Power
> >>    Python, Linkers, and Virtual Memory
> >>
> >> Would there be any chance of my presenting one of these at the January,
> >> and the other at the February, COhPy meeting?  (And when exactly is the
> >> January meeting, by the way - I am going to attend CodeMash, and have
> >> been hoping the dates do not conflict?)
> >>
> >> I also will be giving two tutorials at PyCon, one of which I have never
> >> given before:
> >>
> >>    SQL for Python Developers
> >>
> >> I might be tempted to drive into Columbus early in the day of the
> >> Feburary COhPy meeting, and give the tutorial for free that afternoon
to
> >> anyone who wants to show up and help me debug it; we will see if anyone
> >> is interested!
> >>
> >> --
> >> Brandon Craig Rhodes   brandon at rhodesmill.org
> >> http://rhodesmill.org/brandon
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> CentralOH mailing list
> >> CentralOH at python.org
> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/centraloh
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> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 11:23:35 -0500
> From: Brandon Craig Rhodes <brandon at rhodesmill.org>
> To: "Mailing list for Central Ohio Python User Group \(COhPy\)"
>        <centraloh at python.org>
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> Brian Costlow <brian.costlow at gmail.com> writes:
>
> > I don't think we have one for January yet either, but Eric may have
> > something lined up I don't know about.
>
> What is the typical meeting format - how many people speak, and for how
> long?  A PyCon talk is only 25 minutes, and thus will not make much of a
> meeting, unless a *long* Q&A session ensues :) - or unless your meetings
> are shorter than the two hours we usually aimed for (and usually
> overshot!) for Python Atlanta?
>
> --
> Brandon Craig Rhodes   brandon at rhodesmill.org
http://rhodesmill.org/brandon
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From eric at intellovations.com  Fri Dec 23 19:45:06 2011
From: eric at intellovations.com (Eric Floehr)
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 13:45:06 -0500
Subject: [CentralOH] Looking for meeting space.
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That's where we used to meet, as I was CTO of a company there, but OSU took
over the only conference room that fit us for an Medical Center IT rollout
(not sure when it is until) and the main auditorium was booked until the
end of the year on meeting days.

Could you inquire where TechColumbus meeting space stands?

Thanks!
-Eric


On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Jonathan Hogue <jon at hogue.org> wrote:

> Correction: Any interest in Tech Columbus?
>
> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Jonathan Hogue <jon at hogue.org> wrote:
> > Any interest in Tech Columbus. As a member, I think we can get space
> > there for free.
> >
> > Or I'd be happy to host at 2co.
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From wmoore at 2co.com  Sat Dec 24 04:58:49 2011
From: wmoore at 2co.com (Warner Moore)
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 03:58:49 +0000
Subject: [CentralOH] Looking for meeting space.
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                You're always welcome at 2CO! =)

Warner

From: centraloh-bounces+wmoore=2co.com at python.org [mailto:centraloh-bounces+wmoore=2co.com at python.org] On Behalf Of Brian Costlow
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2011 12:24 AM
To: centraloh
Subject: [CentralOH] Looking for meeting space.

All,

We are still looking for meeting space for our January 30th meeting.

If anyone has any ideas (or you or employer can provide space) please contact Eric or me.

Thanks,

Brian

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