From jep200404 at columbus.rr.com Mon Jul 2 15:46:04 2012 From: jep200404 at columbus.rr.com (jep200404 at columbus.rr.com) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 09:46:04 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] Westland Library Message-ID: <20120702094604.3a723fd3.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> The Westland Library (dojo site) has power and is open. http://swpl.org/about-spl/info/library-locations-a-hours/64-westland-area-library From mark at microenh.com Mon Jul 2 18:08:40 2012 From: mark at microenh.com (Mr Mark E Erbaugh) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 12:08:40 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] Westland Library In-Reply-To: <20120702094604.3a723fd3.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> References: <20120702094604.3a723fd3.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> Message-ID: <510355D4-7B09-4AB6-A985-14DFD14298DF@microenh.com> Jim, My internet is back on. Thanks. I confirmed that by phone, though I forgot to ask about the curtains. I'll bring the projector anyways. I just got a call from Fendi checking to see if the DoJo was on. He said he'd be there. Mark On Jul 2, 2012, at 9:46 AM, jep200404 at columbus.rr.com wrote: > The Westland Library (dojo site) has power and is open. > > http://swpl.org/about-spl/info/library-locations-a-hours/64-westland-area-library > > _______________________________________________ > CentralOH mailing list > CentralOH at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/centraloh From brian.costlow at gmail.com Tue Jul 3 02:46:16 2012 From: brian.costlow at gmail.com (Brian Costlow) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 20:46:16 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] PyOhio T-Shirt Deadline is fast approaching. Message-ID: Hey everyone, if you want to get a cool PyOhio T-Shirt this year ( http://t.co/k3OZ5UNo), you need to register for PyOhio by July 5th. We didn't get a T-Shirt sponsor this year, so we're asking folks to donate $20.00 for a shirt if you want one. To guarantee we'll have one for you in your size, you need to register by midnight EDT on July 5th?and check the box that says you want a shirt. About PyOhio PyOhio is one of the largest Python conferences in the US, and the largest entirely free Python conference anywhere. PyOhio 2012 will take place Saturday-Sunday, July 28-29, 2012 at the Ohio State University in Columbus, Ohio. A variety of activities are planned, including tutorials, scheduled talks, Lightning Talks, Open Spaces and Sprints. This year we doubled the number of talk proposals from last year, and will be adding a fourth track of talks and tutorials. If Registration is Free, Why Should I Register? The more people that register in advance, the better we can plan for space, snacks, drinks, etc. How Do I Register? http://pyohio.org/register/ I'm Coming In From Out Of Town, Where Can I Stay? There is no officially designated PyOhio hotel, but the nearest one to the Ohio Union is the Blackwell: http://www.theblackwell.com/ We've arranged a rate of $119.00 per night for PyOhio attendees (while the block lasts). To get the $119 rate, you need to reserve by phone (866-247-4003) and ask for the PyOhio rate. Here are some other hotels in the vicinity: http://www.hipmunk.com/#!ohio+union+columbus+oh,Jul27.Jul29;1739+High+St+Columbus+OH+43210,Jul27.Jul29 at 1 How Can I Help? PyOhio is entirely volunteer run. If you would like to volunteer, check the "Contact Me, I'd Like To Volunteer" box when registering. Or go here and add your name: http://pyohio.org/Volunteer/ Since the conference is free to attend, and volunteer-run, we rely on generous sponsors for things we have to pay for, like the venue, refreshments, printing, and videography. If you can sponsor the conference, or put us in touch with someone who might become a sponsor, respond back to this email with your contact information. Thanks! The PyOhio 2012 Organizing Committee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From jep200404 at columbus.rr.com Tue Jul 24 22:00:48 2012 From: jep200404 at columbus.rr.com (jep200404 at columbus.rr.com) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 16:00:48 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] Using Projectors; General Presentation Stuff Message-ID: <20120724160048.54693b50.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> This is about a technical aspect of giving presentations, particularly about how to get a projector to work with a computer. At the 2011 PyOhio, many presenters had difficulty getting their computers to work with the presenters. This was most noticeable during the "Lightning Talks" where each presentation was limited to five minutes. Some presentation struggled with connecting to the projectors longer than their presentations. There were some presenters that were unable to give their presentations because they could not figure out how to use the projectors with their laptop. It's frustrating and embarrassing to struggle with getting projectors to work with one's computer, in front of a crowd. So the need to prepare for using projectors at presentations became obvious. In short: Don't wing it. Practice connecting to external displays. Much of what follows are things to think about and things to try, but not pat answers. One will need to read the manuals and experiment. Many examples below are particular to Xubuntu 11.10, so details will differ for various computers and operating systems, but many of the concepts apply across various operating systems. Connection Get _something_, _anything_ to display. This is the hardest part. Coping with stuck off displays (both external and internal). Here are some things to try to get unstuck. Switch "consoles": then Cycle through Unplug and replug external display. Open and close laptop lid. Check for bent pins in video connectors. On external display, manually select input. Manually select resolution. External display's automatic input selection and laptop's automatic output driving, do hide and seek dance. _If_ manually selecting output resolution, start with low resolution, such as 640x480, then 800x600, then 1024x768. Restart GUI display settings program. Reboot. ssh into the dark computer and execute command to bring the computer display back to sanity. Figuring the right command can be difficult. RTFM. Sometimes one will settle for a graceful shutdown or reboot. Although one should read manuals, many of the interactions between software and hardware for using external displays is highly idiomatic, for which there is no documentation. For example of idiomatic behavior, with the same operating system on two different laptops, closing and opening the lid on one of them tends to turn on all displays, and provoke a pop-up asking which displays I want on, while the other laptop tends to lock up. One will have to just figure things out by brute force experimentation and testing. Keep notes of what one does and what the results were. Practice connecting to different external displays. Practice, practice, practice. Making it look good. After one has something displayed on a projector, then one can progress to making it look _good_. Adjust projector settings. I have experienced maladjusted displays. Be prepared to change projector settings. Consider changing to normal or "factory" settings, then tweaking as needed. Manually select input. This can be helpful when the projector has multiple inputs and can not "find" the connected computer. Reset brightness and contrast to normal. "Optical" keystone correction is good. "Digital" keystone correction can cause Moire patterns. Disable automatic ("digital") keystone correction. Set keystone correction to none (in middle). Use actual native resolution of external display Displays look best when driving an external display at its actual resolution. Most external displays will _tolerate_ several resolutions, but the actual native resolution looks best, so output from one's computer, the actual resolution of the external display. xrandr usually indicates the "preferred" resolution. bad effects of mismatched resolution: blurriness from stretching or squishing Provoke with: xterm window full of 'W' characters. xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 640x480 xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 800x600 xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1024x768 Moir? pattern Provoke with: xterm window full of 'W' characters. jam_video_mode 1016 764 jam_video_mode 1024 760 jam_video_mode 1024 768 71 xterm window full of 'E' characters. xrandr --output VGA1 --transform 1,0,0,0,1.01,0,0,0,1 Make background that shows common resolutions. The following seems like overkill, but shows the idea. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Vector_Video_Standards2.svg Xubuntu 11.10 defaults to automatically showing the size of smaller display as a shaded region on the display that has more resolution. Consider having presentation on different workspaces, one workspace per resolution, already tweaked to go. have xrandr commands for that resolution ready to go. Laptops with displays that have more resolution than the external display are nice. One can use the extra space to privately display things such as notes and the time remaining. Also, one can position the output to show only the presentation content on the external display, focusing the audience's attention on that presentation and avoiding distractions such as operating system toolbars and icons. That also avoids wasting space on the external display. By the way, most projectors have 1024x768 or 800x600 resolution. Programs to control display outputs GUI programs Of course they are intuitive. When they work well, they help. When things aren't working well, they often get in the way. Many GUI tools have bugs. For example, xfce4-display-settings will often not correctly update the options available for the remaining display, when an external display is unplugged while xfce4-display-settings is running. (A workaround is to kill that instance of xfce4-display-settings and restart it.) All GUI tools have limitations: Can not choose resolution not on list. (most) Can not overlap displays of different resolutions. (Unity) Can not arbitrarily align displays (most) Aspect ratio mismatches. Consider making one's GUI wrapper for xrandr commands. Command line programs Command line programs offer the greatest flexibility and control. They can also be used when the screen is dark, either by knowing what to type (without seeing what one is typing), or by ssh'ing into a dark computer. They also require effort to learn how to us. aspect ratio: Most projectors have 4:3 aspect ratio. Many laptops have 16:9 aspect ratio. xrandr will only allow one to choose one of the resolutions that the display says that it likes. Often a display likes only resolutions with the same aspect ratio as the actual display resolution. However, many displays will show resolutions that they don't actually like. When a laptop's display has a different aspect ratio than the external display, it can be difficult to choose resolutions that one needs. The jam_video_mode[1] command can make and try to use an arbitrary resolution. Need to see laptop display because presenter is facing audience. When the presenter is facing away from the external display, the presenter has to rely on the laptop's display. Some laptops, especially 'netbooks', have less resolution that the external display, so the presenter can not see what the audience sees. See the --scale option in the example xrandr commands below for a way to cope with such a situation. Example commands to study and play with. xrandr --output VGA1 --off xrandr --output VGA1 --auto xrandr --output VGA1 --preferred xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1024x768 xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 800x600 xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 640x480 xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1024x768 --rate 60 jam_video_mode 1024 768 71 # show how setting position can be used to crop window of interest xrandr --output VGA1 --pos 1x72 # for Xfce Terminal Emulator xrandr --output VGA1 --pos 50x50 # The --same-as option is a short cut for --pos 0x0. # There are other positioning options that are also short cuts for --pos. xrandr --output VGA1 --same-as LVDS1 --mode 1024x768 # Each time one hits return key, the external display position # is changed randomly. awk '{x=128*rand();y=128*rand();system(sprintf("xrandr --output VGA1 --pos %dx%d \n",x,y))}' # The --scale option can be helpful when using external displays with more # resolution than the laptop display has, especially when can see the laptop # display, but is facing away from the projector screen. It's a compromise. # The squished laptop display will not look as good as the projector screen, # but at least one will be able to see all that the audience sees. xrandr --output LVDS1 --scale 1.3333x1.3333 # 1920x1200 / 1440x900 # Following is great for using 1024x768 projector with 1024x600 netbook. xrandr --output LVDS1 --scale 1x1.28 # 1024x768 / 1024x600 # default brightness is 1. # It is not unusual to need to tweak this. # First consider setting projector's brightness to normal. xrandr --output VGA1 --brightness 1 xrandr --output VGA1 --brightness 2 xrandr --output VGA1 --brightness 0.5 xrandr --output VGA1 --brightness 0 # default gamma is 1:1:1 xrandr --output VGA1 --gamma 1:1:1 xrandr --output VGA1 --gamma 2:2:2 xrandr --output VGA1 --gamma 0.5:0.5:0.5 # http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma_correction xrandr --output VGA1 --rotate normal xrandr --output VGA1 --rotate left xrandr --output VGA1 --rotate right xrandr --output VGA1 --rotate inverted # default transform is 1,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,1 xrandr --output VGA1 --transform 1,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,1 xrandr --output VGA1 --transform 0.707,-0.707,0,0.707,0.707,0,0,0,1 xrandr --output VGA1 --transform 0.9,-0.507,0,0.707,0.707,0,0,0,1 xrandr --output VGA1 --transform 0.9,-0.207,0,0.707,0.707,0,0,0,1 xrandr --output VGA1 --transform 1,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,1 xrandr --output VGA1 --transform 1,0,0,0,1.01,0,0,0,1 xrandr --output VGA1 --transform 1,0,0,0,1.02,0,0,0,1 xrandr --output VGA1 --transform 1,0,0,0,1.03,0,0,0,1 # transform is slow (likely software based) # transform seems to do anti-aliasing ################################################################################ More general comments about technical side of giving presentations. Arrive early to futz with projector and internet, to get them working _before_ your presentation starts. Have menus or commands to control display, ready to execute. Don't rely in internet access. Internet access is unreliable. If you are going to use network, work out those details early. If you really want to do live demo of stuff from internet, be sure to have backup that shows how it should look. Done right, the audience will not even not that anything is amiss. KISS: Have content in simple or well-supported formats. plain text PDFs browser based (from local content on local computer) Brandon's presentation restructured text, html, css, browser. Backups: Presentation on USB flash drives. If you can not present from your laptop, borrow somebody else's laptop, with your USB flash drive plugged into it. This works well when your content is an a format (such as in KISS section above) that stock software on most laptops is likely to be able to show. Bootable flash drive with OS and presentation. If your presentation relies on software that most people are not likely to have installed on their laptops, then this is a useful option. Have all the needed software installed in the flash drive. One can consider presenting from content on a USB flash drive as the main way of giving a presentation. For backup, have extra USB flash drives. Have presentation on the web. Use this ONLY as backup, not as main way of presenting. Have URL written on _paper_. extension cord outlet strip 3-prong to 2-prong adapter spare laptop spare fully-charged battery (or batteries) display time remaining to oneself. display notes to oneself in part of laptop display that audience can not see. [1] jam_video_mode is a little script to create and use video modes of arbitrary resolution and frequencies. For finer control, tweak the output of cvt. $ cat ~/bin/jam_video_mode #!/bin/sh cvt $* \ | awk -f ~/bin/jam_video_mode.awk \ | tee ~/jam.log \ | sh -v # cat jam.log $ cat ~/bin/jam_video_mode.awk /^Modeline / { sub("^Modeline ","") print "xrandr --delmode VGA1 "$1" 2>/dev/null" print "#sleep 1" print "xrandr --rmmode "$1" 2>/dev/null" print "#sleep 1" print "xrandr --newmode " $0 print "#sleep 1" print "xrandr --addmode VGA1 "$1 print "#sleep 1" print "xrandr --output VGA1 --mode "$1 } $ Get rid of the custom modes created by jam_video_mode. xrandr | awk '/_/ {print $1}' | xargs -n 1 xrandr --delmode VGA1 xrandr | awk '/_/ {print $1}' | xargs -n 1 xrandr --rmmode From jep200404 at columbus.rr.com Tue Jul 24 22:16:40 2012 From: jep200404 at columbus.rr.com (jep200404 at columbus.rr.com) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 16:16:40 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] Using Projectors: Disconnect Gracefully In-Reply-To: <20120724160048.54693b50.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> References: <20120724160048.54693b50.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> Message-ID: <20120724161640.70df8b46.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 16:00:48 -0400, jep200404 at columbus.rr.com wrote: > This is about a technical aspect of giving presentations, > particularly about how to get a projector to work with a > computer. I forgot to mention: Disconnect gracefully Before disconnecting from an external display, make sure that windows and controls will be accessible on the laptop display and disable output to the external display. Sometimes when an external display is disconnected before output to it is disabled, one gets stuck because something one needs, such as a shutdown control or screen control program, is not visible on the laptop's screen. From jep200404 at columbus.rr.com Wed Jul 25 00:04:33 2012 From: jep200404 at columbus.rr.com (jep200404 at columbus.rr.com) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 18:04:33 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] 2012-07-23 Message-ID: <20120724180433.25e15d03.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> Mainly about preparing for PyOhio. Schedule is posted on web at last: http://pyohio.org/schedule/ http://pyohio.org/schedule/lists/talks/ Jason Green is handling volunteers. Carl Karsten (aka Carl Shotwell) is doing video http://nextdayvideo.com/ https://launchpad.net/~carlfk https://twitter.com/cfkarsten http://pyvideo.org/category/12/pyohio-2011 Brandon Rhodes talked about his presentation design patterns http://pyohio.org/schedule/presentations/69/ Design Patterns and Gang of Four http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_Patterns Zope http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zope behavior driven development (BDD) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavior_Driven_Development cucumber http://cukes.info/ James Tauber http://jtauber.com/ https://twitter.com/jtauber http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mojibake http://pettermahlen.com/2012/05/23/bdd-using-lettuce-vs-cucumber-jvm/ https://github.com/cucumber/ https://github.com/cucumber/gherkin Lettuce http://lettuce.it/ http://lettuce.it/intro/overview.html#intro-overview http://pettermahlen.com/2012/05/23/bdd-using-lettuce-vs-cucumber-jvm/ Michael Foord Mock - Mocking and Testing Library http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/mock/ Using Projectors; General Presentation Stuff http://mail.python.org/pipermail/centraloh/2012-July/001336.html Mike Rehner will give a presentation http://pyohio.org/schedule/presentations/56/ Ruby has good test automation support. Ruby has good JVM support. Python has good documentation. monkey patch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_patch sudo make me a sandwich http://xkcd.com/149/ http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/sandwich.png Zooproot(spelling ???) web design http://www.zooproot.com/ http://twitter.com/zooproot W.G. Grinders for unofficial Friday sprints (on High Street south of Ohio Union) Brazenhead 1027 West Fifth Avenue Haskell: clean like Python; academic; different mindset Aetion Technologies LLC http://business-bankruptcies.com/cases/aetion-technologies-llc https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Haskell_(programming_language) Python on microcontrollers i7 is a warmed over 4004 (think hamburger helper) ARM clean PIC awkward Parallax Propeller bit bang video https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallax_Propeller SMD common; DIP uncommon Python on microcontrollers (links please) Armduino https://github.com/Railstars/ARMduino http://www.delabs.net/news/tag/arm/ http://tenettech.com/category.php?id_category=285 http://www.edtp.com/ http://www.dtweed.com/circuitcellar/caj00190.htm#3280 raspberry pi as MythTV client From kurtis.mullins at gmail.com Wed Jul 25 17:32:18 2012 From: kurtis.mullins at gmail.com (Kurtis Mullins) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 11:32:18 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] Cheaper Hotels for PyOhio? Message-ID: Hey, I'm interested in going to PyOhio. I live in Kettering which is just far enough away to make a Hotel worth it. But, I'm a little tight, financially, at the moment. Does anyone know of some cheaper hotels that are assumed decently safe? I don't need any great accommodations -- just somewhere to sleep and shower. I plan on riding my bike (motorcycle) so I'd rather not stay in a bad area where it might get stolen or vandalized. I did see on the site that there's a hotel special-price of a bit more than $100 per night but I really can't afford to spend that much at the moment. All good suggestions are welcome. Thanks! - Kurtis Mullins -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brian.costlow at gmail.com Wed Jul 25 22:03:25 2012 From: brian.costlow at gmail.com (Brian Costlow) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 16:03:25 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] Cheaper Hotels for PyOhio? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Kurtis, Last I checked, the Blackwell, where we had a discount rate, was fully booked for Saturday night; not just the cheaper block, but sold out entirely. Catherine ginned up a nifty Hipmunk search we've been putting in our list emails that might help: http://www.hipmunk.com/#!ohio+union+columbus+oh,Jul27.Jul29;1739+High+St+Columbus+OH+43210,Jul27.Jul29 at 1 There's just not a lot there at the under $88 price. Also, I have no clue about safety, I used to live near the Varsity Inn, but that was in 1983, no idea what it's like down there now. On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Kurtis Mullins wrote: > Hey, > > I'm interested in going to PyOhio. I live in Kettering which is just far > enough away to make a Hotel worth it. But, I'm a little tight, financially, > at the moment. Does anyone know of some cheaper hotels that are assumed > decently safe? > > I don't need any great accommodations -- just somewhere to sleep and > shower. I plan on riding my bike (motorcycle) so I'd rather not stay in a > bad area where it might get stolen or vandalized. I did see on the site > that there's a hotel special-price of a bit more than $100 per night but I > really can't afford to spend that much at the moment. > > All good suggestions are welcome. > > Thanks! > - Kurtis Mullins > > _______________________________________________ > CentralOH mailing list > CentralOH at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/centraloh > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kurtis.mullins at gmail.com Wed Jul 25 22:18:33 2012 From: kurtis.mullins at gmail.com (Kurtis Mullins) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 16:18:33 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] Cheaper Hotels for PyOhio? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Brian Costlow wrote: > > > Last I checked, the Blackwell, where we had a discount rate, was fully > booked for Saturday night; not just the cheaper block, but sold out > entirely. > Wow! That's a really great turn-out. > Catherine ginned up a nifty Hipmunk search we've been putting in our list > emails that might help: > > > http://www.hipmunk.com/#!ohio+union+columbus+oh,Jul27.Jul29;1739+High+St+Columbus+OH+43210,Jul27.Jul29 at 1 > > There's just not a lot there at the under $88 price. > Yep, tons of hotels but the prices aren't any less than what I just paid down on Clearwater Beach two weeks ago :P I did find a Ho*s*tel that supposedly starts at $23.00/night but I haven't called to verify the prices or openings. If anyone else is looking, the link for it is here: http://www.hostels.com/hostels/columbus-oh/the-wayfaring-buckeye-hostel/44280. Although Hostels might not be for everyone. Thanks for the info! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jep200404 at columbus.rr.com Wed Jul 25 23:00:14 2012 From: jep200404 at columbus.rr.com (jep200404 at columbus.rr.com) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 17:00:14 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] Cheaper Hotels for PyOhio? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120725170014.739a5466.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 16:18:33 -0400, Kurtis Mullins wrote: > On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Brian Costlow > wrote: > > Last I checked, the Blackwell, where we had a discount rate, was fully > > booked for Saturday night; not just the cheaper block, but sold out > > entirely. > Wow! That's a really great turn-out. ... for the Ohio State Fair that started today. So expect many hotels to be full, especially close to the fairgrounds. The fairgrounds are about a mile east of OSU. The fairgrounds are near I-71, so expect lodging along I-71 to be full. SR 315 goes along the opposite side of OSU. Expect better luck along SR 315, or further west. From jon at hogue.org Wed Jul 25 23:10:49 2012 From: jon at hogue.org (Jonathan Hogue) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 17:10:49 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] Cheaper Hotels for PyOhio? In-Reply-To: <20120725170014.739a5466.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> References: <20120725170014.739a5466.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> Message-ID: I've had luck here. It's just barely good enough to stay at, and really good rates. 20 minute drive to the venue. It's not the best part of town, but not that bad. Typical of cheap hotel area. The last time I stayed, the wifi worked. Lots of chain stuff in the area. Value Innmore info? 1947 Stringtown Road Grove City, OH 43123 (614) 875-1800 americasbestvalueinn.com? If you go east of this hotel, across route 71, it's a better area, but more expensive. Also, the 70W and Hilliard Rome Road area is another hotel cluster that's likely to be open. Nicer part of town, but also more expensive. 20 minute drive to the venue. This area of town is a 5-10 minute drive to the venue. a healthy 40-50 minute walk. Mostly students and hotels in this area. https://maps.google.com/maps?q=hotel&hl=en&ll=40.022044,-83.020828&spn=0.014608,0.027874&sll=40.016901,-83.027072&sspn=0.014609,0.027874&t=m&radius=0.89&hq=hotel&z=16 From kurtis.mullins at gmail.com Wed Jul 25 23:16:24 2012 From: kurtis.mullins at gmail.com (Kurtis Mullins) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 17:16:24 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] Cheaper Hotels for PyOhio? In-Reply-To: References: <20120725170014.739a5466.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> Message-ID: Thanks Jonathan! It looks like they do have openings for the weekend and it's only about $65/night. This is the address I looked into, though; I don't have a clue on the distance from the event but I plan on driving anyways, assuming parking is still going to be available. 1313 St James Lutheran Ln Columbus, OH 43228 United States On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Jonathan Hogue wrote: > I've had luck here. It's just barely good enough to stay at, and > really good rates. 20 minute drive to the venue. It's not the best > part of town, but not that bad. Typical of cheap hotel area. The last > time I stayed, the wifi worked. Lots of chain stuff in the area. > > Value Innmore info? > 1947 Stringtown Road > Grove City, OH 43123 > (614) 875-1800 > americasbestvalueinn.com? > > If you go east of this hotel, across route 71, it's a better area, but > more expensive. > > Also, the 70W and Hilliard Rome Road area is another hotel cluster > that's likely to be open. Nicer part of town, but also more expensive. > 20 minute drive to the venue. > > This area of town is a 5-10 minute drive to the venue. a healthy 40-50 > minute walk. Mostly students and hotels in this area. > > https://maps.google.com/maps?q=hotel&hl=en&ll=40.022044,-83.020828&spn=0.014608,0.027874&sll=40.016901,-83.027072&sspn=0.014609,0.027874&t=m&radius=0.89&hq=hotel&z=16 > _______________________________________________ > CentralOH mailing list > CentralOH at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/centraloh > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jon at hogue.org Wed Jul 25 23:21:40 2012 From: jon at hogue.org (Jonathan Hogue) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 17:21:40 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] Cheaper Hotels for PyOhio? In-Reply-To: References: <20120725170014.739a5466.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> Message-ID: Google maps says 20 minutes. I'd agree with that estimate. On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Kurtis Mullins wrote: > Thanks Jonathan! > > It looks like they do have openings for the weekend and it's only about > $65/night. This is the address I looked into, though; I don't have a clue on > the distance from the event but I plan on driving anyways, assuming parking > is still going to be available. > > 1313 St James Lutheran Ln Columbus, OH 43228 United States > > > On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Jonathan Hogue wrote: >> >> I've had luck here. It's just barely good enough to stay at, and >> really good rates. 20 minute drive to the venue. It's not the best >> part of town, but not that bad. Typical of cheap hotel area. The last >> time I stayed, the wifi worked. Lots of chain stuff in the area. >> >> Value Innmore info? >> 1947 Stringtown Road >> Grove City, OH 43123 >> (614) 875-1800 >> americasbestvalueinn.com? >> >> If you go east of this hotel, across route 71, it's a better area, but >> more expensive. >> >> Also, the 70W and Hilliard Rome Road area is another hotel cluster >> that's likely to be open. Nicer part of town, but also more expensive. >> 20 minute drive to the venue. >> >> This area of town is a 5-10 minute drive to the venue. a healthy 40-50 >> minute walk. Mostly students and hotels in this area. >> >> https://maps.google.com/maps?q=hotel&hl=en&ll=40.022044,-83.020828&spn=0.014608,0.027874&sll=40.016901,-83.027072&sspn=0.014609,0.027874&t=m&radius=0.89&hq=hotel&z=16 >> _______________________________________________ >> CentralOH mailing list >> CentralOH at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/centraloh > > > > _______________________________________________ > CentralOH mailing list > CentralOH at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/centraloh > From jep200404 at columbus.rr.com Wed Jul 25 23:29:01 2012 From: jep200404 at columbus.rr.com (jep200404 at columbus.rr.com) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 17:29:01 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] Parking In-Reply-To: References: <20120725170014.739a5466.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> Message-ID: <20120725172901.116a4ceb.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 17:16:24 -0400, Kurtis Mullins wrote: > ... assuming parking is still going to be available. Parking rules and laws are enforced on and around campus with more "enthusiasm" than football fans have. You have been warned. There's an expensive parking garage next to the Ohio Union. Is there some free motorcycle parking close to the Ohio Union? Expect a "good" walk from free parking. From lenjaffe at jaffesystems.com Wed Jul 25 23:49:45 2012 From: lenjaffe at jaffesystems.com (Len Jaffe) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 17:49:45 -0400 Subject: [CentralOH] Parking In-Reply-To: <20120725172901.116a4ceb.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> References: <20120725170014.739a5466.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> <20120725172901.116a4ceb.jep200404@columbus.rr.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 5:29 PM, wrote: > On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 17:16:24 -0400, Kurtis Mullins < > kurtis.mullins at gmail.com> wrote: > > > ... assuming parking is still going to be available. > > Parking rules and laws are enforced on and around campus with > more "enthusiasm" than football fans have. You have been warned. > > There's an expensive parking garage next to the Ohio Union. > Is there some free motorcycle parking close to the Ohio Union? > There are garages on High Street near the union. They are far cheaper than paying to get your car back form the towing trolls. If you're coming in from out of the vicinity, do not forget to stop at buckeye donut. -- lenjaffe at jaffesystems.com 614-404-4214 www.volunteerable.net Proprietor: http://www.theycomewithcheese.com/ - An Homage to Fromage Greenbar : Grubmaster: 2012-2009, Grub Asst: 2008, Trained: 2007. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(Though they try to provide notice with the construction signs a few days before hand) On 07/25/2012 05:29 PM, jep200404 at columbus.rr.com wrote: > On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 17:16:24 -0400, Kurtis Mullins wrote: > >> ... assuming parking is still going to be available. > > Parking rules and laws are enforced on and around campus with > more "enthusiasm" than football fans have. You have been warned. > > There's an expensive parking garage next to the Ohio Union. > Is there some free motorcycle parking close to the Ohio Union? > > Expect a "good" walk from free parking. > > _______________________________________________ > CentralOH mailing list > CentralOH at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/centraloh > -- Michael Yanovich -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 5:11 PM, wrote: > Send CentralOH mailing list submissions to > centraloh at python.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/centraloh > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > centraloh-request at python.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > centraloh-owner at python.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of CentralOH digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Cheaper Hotels for PyOhio? (Kurtis Mullins) > 2. Re: Cheaper Hotels for PyOhio? (Brian Costlow) > 3. Re: Cheaper Hotels for PyOhio? (Kurtis Mullins) > 4. Re: Cheaper Hotels for PyOhio? (jep200404 at columbus.rr.com) > 5. Re: Cheaper Hotels for PyOhio? (Jonathan Hogue) > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Kurtis Mullins > To: CentralOH at python.org > Cc: > Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 11:32:18 -0400 > Subject: [CentralOH] Cheaper Hotels for PyOhio? > Hey, > > I'm interested in going to PyOhio. I live in Kettering which is just far > enough away to make a Hotel worth it. But, I'm a little tight, financially, > at the moment. Does anyone know of some cheaper hotels that are assumed > decently safe? > > I don't need any great accommodations -- just somewhere to sleep and > shower. I plan on riding my bike (motorcycle) so I'd rather not stay in a > bad area where it might get stolen or vandalized. I did see on the site > that there's a hotel special-price of a bit more than $100 per night but I > really can't afford to spend that much at the moment. > > All good suggestions are welcome. > > Thanks! > - Kurtis Mullins > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Brian Costlow > To: "Mailing list for Central Ohio Python User Group (COhPy)" < > centraloh at python.org> > Cc: > Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 16:03:25 -0400 > Subject: Re: [CentralOH] Cheaper Hotels for PyOhio? > Hi Kurtis, > > Last I checked, the Blackwell, where we had a discount rate, was fully > booked for Saturday night; not just the cheaper block, but sold out > entirely. > > Catherine ginned up a nifty Hipmunk search we've been putting in our list > emails that might help: > > > http://www.hipmunk.com/#!ohio+union+columbus+oh,Jul27.Jul29;1739+High+St+Columbus+OH+43210,Jul27.Jul29 at 1 > > There's just not a lot there at the under $88 price. > > Also, I have no clue about safety, I used to live near the Varsity Inn, > but that was in 1983, no idea what it's like down there now. > > > > On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Kurtis Mullins > wrote: > >> Hey, >> >> I'm interested in going to PyOhio. I live in Kettering which is just far >> enough away to make a Hotel worth it. But, I'm a little tight, financially, >> at the moment. Does anyone know of some cheaper hotels that are assumed >> decently safe? >> >> I don't need any great accommodations -- just somewhere to sleep and >> shower. I plan on riding my bike (motorcycle) so I'd rather not stay in a >> bad area where it might get stolen or vandalized. I did see on the site >> that there's a hotel special-price of a bit more than $100 per night but I >> really can't afford to spend that much at the moment. >> >> All good suggestions are welcome. >> >> Thanks! >> - Kurtis Mullins >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CentralOH mailing list >> CentralOH at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/centraloh >> >> > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Kurtis Mullins > To: "Mailing list for Central Ohio Python User Group (COhPy)" < > centraloh at python.org> > Cc: > Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 16:18:33 -0400 > Subject: Re: [CentralOH] Cheaper Hotels for PyOhio? > On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Brian Costlow > wrote: >> >> >> Last I checked, the Blackwell, where we had a discount rate, was fully >> booked for Saturday night; not just the cheaper block, but sold out >> entirely. >> > > Wow! That's a really great turn-out. > > >> Catherine ginned up a nifty Hipmunk search we've been putting in our list >> emails that might help: >> >> >> http://www.hipmunk.com/#!ohio+union+columbus+oh,Jul27.Jul29;1739+High+St+Columbus+OH+43210,Jul27.Jul29 at 1 >> >> There's just not a lot there at the under $88 price. >> > > Yep, tons of hotels but the prices aren't any less than what I just paid > down on Clearwater Beach two weeks ago :P > > I did find a Ho*s*tel that supposedly starts at $23.00/night but I > haven't called to verify the prices or openings. If anyone else is looking, > the link for it is here: > http://www.hostels.com/hostels/columbus-oh/the-wayfaring-buckeye-hostel/44280. > Although Hostels might not be for everyone. > > Thanks for the info! > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: jep200404 at columbus.rr.com > To: "Mailing list for Central Ohio Python User Group \(COhPy\)" < > centraloh at python.org> > Cc: > Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 17:00:14 -0400 > Subject: Re: [CentralOH] Cheaper Hotels for PyOhio? > On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 16:18:33 -0400, Kurtis Mullins < > kurtis.mullins at gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Brian Costlow > > wrote: > > > > Last I checked, the Blackwell, where we had a discount rate, was fully > > > booked for Saturday night; not just the cheaper block, but sold out > > > entirely. > > > Wow! That's a really great turn-out. > > ... for the Ohio State Fair that started today. > So expect many hotels to be full, especially close to the fairgrounds. > > The fairgrounds are about a mile east of OSU. > The fairgrounds are near I-71, so expect lodging along I-71 to > be full. SR 315 goes along the opposite side of OSU. > Expect better luck along SR 315, or further west. > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Jonathan Hogue > To: "Mailing list for Central Ohio Python User Group (COhPy)" < > centraloh at python.org> > Cc: > Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 17:10:49 -0400 > Subject: Re: [CentralOH] Cheaper Hotels for PyOhio? > I've had luck here. It's just barely good enough to stay at, and > really good rates. 20 minute drive to the venue. It's not the best > part of town, but not that bad. Typical of cheap hotel area. The last > time I stayed, the wifi worked. Lots of chain stuff in the area. > > Value Innmore info? > 1947 Stringtown Road > Grove City, OH 43123 > (614) 875-1800 > americasbestvalueinn.com? > > If you go east of this hotel, across route 71, it's a better area, but > more expensive. > > Also, the 70W and Hilliard Rome Road area is another hotel cluster > that's likely to be open. Nicer part of town, but also more expensive. > 20 minute drive to the venue. > > This area of town is a 5-10 minute drive to the venue. a healthy 40-50 > minute walk. Mostly students and hotels in this area. > > https://maps.google.com/maps?q=hotel&hl=en&ll=40.022044,-83.020828&spn=0.014608,0.027874&sll=40.016901,-83.027072&sspn=0.014609,0.027874&t=m&radius=0.89&hq=hotel&z=16 > > > _______________________________________________ > CentralOH mailing list > CentralOH at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/centraloh > > -- Regards Srini -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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