[CentralOH] Notes from COhPy November 2021

[joe friedrich]

Thanks for the summary, Damien.

Super handy!

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021, 8:13 PM Damien Calloway <damiencalloway at fastmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello !
>
> COhPy November 2021 recap
>
> Jeff Allman presented a talk on unittest and pytest - with a bit of
> Selenium added in at the end for good measure. We had a number of new
> people in attendance, peaking at about 22.
>
> Jeff prefers pytest but gave a demo of both tools, and shared some good
> insight on how to use testing when writing Python code. He also showed how
> to test web pages with Selenium at the end.
>
> "Friends don't let friends use unittest" - Jason Green
>
> Justin Freyermuth wanted to know about a few beginner friendly resources.
> Shelby recommended the freecodecamp channel on YouTube, and Real Python.
> Mike S pointed out the importance of learning by doing :
>
> "@Justin - Reading books and watching videos is "inhaling".  The real
> learning comes from "exhanling"... the typing and running and debugging.
> Learn to type fast and a lot :-)"
>
> I suggested Automate the Boring Stuff, because that book is 1) online
> available for free, and 2) dos a good job of presenting short projects that
> solve real world problems. One can then use that as a jumping off point to
> do their own thing.
>
> When discussing how to test code that already exists, but has no tests
> written, Jim Pryor recommended the book "Working Effectively with Legacy
> Code" by Michael Feathers :
>
> "Feather's definition of legacy code is code without tests.
>
> If you just some code without tests, that is legacy code according to
> Feathers."
>
> ===========
>
>
>
> Resources mentioned during this talk - and the sidebar conversations :
>
> unittest (built into Python) -
> https://docs.python.org/3/library/unittest.html
>
> pytest - https://docs.pytest.org/en/6.2.x/
>
> selenium - https://selenium-python.readthedocs.io/
>
> Real Python - https://realpython.com
>
> w3schools - https://www.w3schools.com/python/
>
> Automate the Boring Stuff - https://automatetheboringstuff.com/
>
> Working Effectively with Legacy Code by Michael Feathers -
> https://www.amazon.com/Working-Effectively-Legacy-Michael-Feathers/dp/0131177052
>
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