[Chennaipy] Talks for the next meetup

[Gaurav Sehrawat]

*My thoughts:* Meetup group has evolved over the period of time in the
sense people are no more newbies as compared to meetings 6 months ago. We
are seeing regular faces now with little newbies at meetups. People have
reached the threshold of python. They want some practical knowledge and
implementation.

Kudos to IMSc for being awesome venue, we can mix handons with full length
talk. For this we want people to come forward a little bit, slack is there,
mailing list is there, just open up a little bit if you are attending or
want to. Ideas never dies, they just multiply.Humble request to other
members.

Execution is what mattters, we will definitely need involvement from
people.

*Idea :* After one week of meetup, we can have a live meeting on slack to
brainstorm on talks. From there we can pick a talk which will qualify to be
a full length talk. This live meeting on slack will be *only once in a
month *say 2-3 hours to brainstorm and off we go. Take it as a productivity
tool rather than time waste.

Thanks
Cheers

On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Shrayas rajagopal <shrayasr at gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Vijay Kumar <vijaykumar at bravegnu.org>
> wrote:
> > I am not sure of this. If we want to get down to the details, let's do it
> > as a workshop. For me, "full length" talks are half cooked. Here are
> > the problems:
> >
> >   1. With a large audience, not everybody might be interested in the
> topic.
> >   2. Not everybody might have the required background to understand the
> >      talk.
> >   3. Not all speakers are proficient, and not many can keep the audience
> >      attentive throughout.
>
> You put forth some rather irrefutable points :)
>
> But my argument here is that this could be used as an opportunity to
> learn the exact things that you are talking about. A meetup, as
> opposed to a conference is a much smaller affair and might just be the
> right stage and environment for people to experiment with this sort of
> talking. Instead of expecting everyone to inherently be good at
> conveying a message or catching attention of all the people, some of
> us who are more experienced than the others could help them out in
> this.
>
> >   4. In general, the attention span of the human brain is only 10-15 min.
> >      So anything after that is just a waste of time and energy.
>
> I disagree with this.I think if the topic is (made) interesting
> enough, most people cling on to it and be interested. The meetup is a
> python meetup and there is a lot to learn from every domain where
> python is used. Even though I don't use it for scientific programming
> or for embedded systems (for eg.), I find the concepts put forth very
> interesting from a language point of view itself.
>
> > With workshops most of these problems are negated.
> >
> >   1. Only people with interested and the required background attend.
> >   2. Since workshop will be hands-on and interactive, speaker proficiency
> >      will be secondary.
> >   3. The attention span problem will not hit workshops, since it is going
> >      be hands-on and interactive.
>
> Not everything needs to / can be a workshop. Because of the following
> reasons:
>
> 1. The person speaking at a workshop is expected to know quite a good
> sum about that topic and that might not actually be the case
> everytime. The person might have just used it for a while but be
> proficient in those parts alone
> 2. Workshops are meant for teaching, the person might not want to
> teach it (because of say, point #1) but just share the idea and see
> how people think about it.
> 3. I think it takes a LOT more practice to do a workshop as opposed to
> a 10 minute talk. The focus is more on you during the workshop than
> during the talk and that requires a lot more self confidence.
>
> ---
>
> One talk per meetup would be a good balance in my opinion. We could
> either start with this talk or end with this. It can also be done on
> public opinion - What do people want as a deep dive session (maybe a
> poll in the previous meetup by show of hands) and see who is ready to
> do this.
>
> We can also provide mentoring to people who think that they are
> nervous or not able to put out their points while engaging the
> audience. This is completely time dependent. I understand that this
> can take up a LOT of our time but I hope that other people would
> volunteer in this effort too. Its just an idea i'm winging out to see
> if it catches fire.
>
> ---
>
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