[Chicago] [OT] Dijit Widgets

Fri Nov 2 16:36:42 CET 2007

That is pretty much what we are using over here at Optaros; lots of
prototype/scriptaculous for general things, yui for widgets and yui
grids/font/reset and blueprints for css.

ExtJS is also starting to be put into heavy rotation; while I have not
personally used it, the developers that have speak pretty highly of
it.

The others that I would add to the list are Mootools and jQuery. I
personally try to sneak Mootool in if the site does need a lot of
scriptaculous like effects. I don't have a lot of experience with
jQuery, but I know that it is what the Drupal community uses in most
of their plugins and most developers that have used it say that it is
pretty convenient. From personal experience jQuery is only library
that allows a convenient way to rename its $() notation so that it can
be used in conjunction with Prototype or Mootools.

I have used most of these libraries in Django projects with much
success :) While there is nothing builtin like RoR, template tags and
an additional views file named ajax_views.py keep everything pretty
manageable.

Cheers,
Stephen

On Nov 1, 2007 6:17 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com> wrote:
> I'm +1 on YUI too. Until then I had been using prototypejs but YUI has
> lots of people using it,  which translates into results when you are
> searching.  When I get a minute to breathe I plan on trying out ExtJS.
>
> -Jeff
>
>
> On 11/1/07, Chuck Martin <cwurld at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I am not sure what you mean by "forces you to use
> > Yahoo services". I can't speak for the whole package,
> > but the parts I am using seem to be self contained
> > javascript that can run independent of the yahoo
> > website.
> >
> > Maybe the confusion comes from the 2 ways you can use
> > the code. You can download it and serve it from your
> > own server. Or you can have the yahoo server serve the
> > code for you. The advantage of having yahoo serve it
> > is you will always have the most recent version. Since
> > they are so active, I think that is a big plus.
> >
> > Or the confusion may come from one of yahoo's css
> > files. They have one that they encourage all users to
> > use. What is does is explicitly set a bunch of styles.
> > They say the reason they do this is to create a
> > consistent starting point. Without that css, each
> > browser sets defaults for all those styles. Using this
> > style sheet is optional. I found that it helped me
> > avoid a lot of problems and made my webpage behave
> > more consistently across browsers. But even with this
> > style sheet, I can set my styles to whatever I want.
> >
> > I'm sorry, I don't recall what version of Dojo I used.
> > It was 9 months ago. It looked promising then. If I
> > had to start from scratch today, I would definitely
> > look into dojo.
> >
> >
> > --- Adam Jenkins <emperorcezar at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I've heard good things, but I've also heard that YUI
> > > "forces" (defaults) you
> > > into using Yahoo services?
> > > Yea, I heard about Dojo having incomplete
> > > documentation. Could I ask, what
> > > version were you using? They seem to be up to 0.9
> > > and 1.0 beta.
> > >
> > > On 11/1/07, Chuck Martin <cwurld at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > About 9 months ago, I tried using dojo with my
> > > Django
> > > > site. Although dojo looked promising, I found it
> > > > frustrating to use. The documentation was
> > > incomplete
> > > > and sometimes contradictory. I had the most luck
> > > when
> > > > I used their unit tests as documentation.
> > > >
> > > > About the same time, I also explored Yahoo's User
> > > > Interface (YUI) library. I had much better luck
> > > with
> > > > it. It has better documentation and lots of
> > > examples.
> > > > So dropped Dojo and am using YUI exclusively.
> > > >
> > > > YUI also has an incredibly active Yahoo Users
> > > Group
> > > > and it appears that they have people on the
> > > payroll
> > > > who work on this code full time.
> > > >
> > > > One thing that real amazed me was I was using
> > > their
> > > > layout code and ran into troubles with Safari. So
> > > I
> > > > posted a note on the message board. Some one
> > > responded
> > > > quickly and we exchanged several messages. I turns
> > > out
> > > > he was one of the Yahoo developers. Since I could
> > > not
> > > > resolve the problem, he actually logged into my
> > > > webpage and worked on the problem for several
> > > hours.
> > > > Unfortunately he could not resolve it, but I
> > > applaud
> > > > the effort.
> > > >
> > > > I think putting YUI in the public domain is good
> > > for
> > > > Yahoo and good for the rest of us. They get a huge
> > > > group of testers for free and we get some pretty
> > > > robust code.
> > > >
> > > > Chuck
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Chris McAvoy <chris.mcavoy at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I just recently caught up with Dojo...these
> > > neat-o
> > > > > "Dijits" seem like
> > > > > they're God's gift to Javascript, which makes me
> > > > > sort of weary.
> > > > > Especially as I can't find anyone actually using
> > > > > them, and the demo
> > > > > page on the main Dojo site appears broken.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is anyone using these things?  I'm really hoping
> > > > > they're awesome, as I
> > > > > dislike layout and design, and love data.
> > > > >
> > > > > Chris
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