[Chicago] New Member

Kumar McMillan kumar.mcmillan at gmail.com
Mon Oct 6 17:05:34 CEST 2008

On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 9:54 AM, Jordan Sherer <jordan at widefido.com> wrote:
> I *am* planning on attending the meet-up on Thursday. However, since this
> will be my first ChiPy meetup I am unsure about giving a talk. If people
> have enough interest in desktop apps built with Python, I can give a quick
> one.

fwiw, I can't imagine my talk being longer than 10 - 15 min.  Quick
talks are good.  If you want to plan a talk for 5 min then I'd say go
for it.  We have done meetings with just lightning talks before
(strict time limit) and usually those turn out well.

> A few questions:
> What is the atmosphere like for talks?

very informal.  the audience varies in size, it seems that we've been
getting a lot more people to meetings lately.  Some people make
slides, others just talk.  Some demo code and break stuff.

> Are there any general recommendations for giving a talk?
> Is there anything in particular that people would like to hear about Python
> powered desktop apps?

personally, I'm always curious to see how people write automated tests
for desktop apps.  and when writing black box tests, what strategies
people have for getting meaningful failures.

> Do you think I should wait until the November meet-up to talk?
> Thanks!
> Best,
> Jordan
> On Oct 6, 2008, at Oct 6   9:41 AM, Kumar McMillan wrote:
>> Hi Allan, welcome.
>> On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Allan Spale <allan2600 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> My name is Allan and I am interested in learning more about the Chicago
>>> Python users group and where and when your next meeting will occur.
>> Our next meeting will be the best ever.  I just updated the wiki with
>> details: http://chipy.org/
>> Chris is giving a talk on Miro and I'll be giving a talk on freebase
>> but I'm not an expert on it.  I think Jordan Sherer might also give a
>> talk on desktop apps?
>> If there's time for discussion, maybe we can talk about the future of
>> "semantic web" -- freebase is just one of the semantic tools emerging
>> but I also don't know much about this so-called movement.
>> Kaleidoscope looks interesting but ambitious.  I get overwhelmed
>> easily when I hear of tools designed to organize all the data of the
>> world.  Not that I don't think it's possible, it just seems really
>> hard.  One thing is for sure, the Google model is far from perfect and
>> if something comes along and does it better then they will be in
>> trouble.  Freebase is pretty ambitious too.  But then again so was
>> wikipedia and that worked.
>> -Kumar
>>> To give you some background about myself...I have been working on an
>>> internet startup for the past year or so in which I am developing an
>>> open-source semantic database system that takes some of the ideas from
>>> Freebase but goes into a somewhat different direction. You can read more
>>> about the system here: http://my-kaleidoscope.org/platform.html. The
>>> datastore I am using is pybsddb (BerkeleyDB module for Python), but the
>>> system was designed in such a way to support any datastore whether it is
>>> a
>>> traditional SQL system or something more non-traditional like Amazon S3.
>>> I
>>> did a very scaled down demo at the O'Reilly Web 2.0 Expo in New York City
>>> a
>>> few weeks ago doing a mashup of the working parts of my database system
>>> and
>>> using Twitter as a frontend:
>>> http://en.oreilly.com/webexny2008/public/schedule/detail/5266. I would
>>> invite all of you to take a look at it, but I am having a terrible time
>>> trying to get my code to work on the web server space that I listed (the
>>> demo was a hack of running mostly local and partially on the webserver).
>>> Attending this conference made me realize that I am probably not a good
>>> candidate for funding my startup, but as I look for a job now (any leads
>>> would be appreciated), I still want to develop this system for the Python
>>> community. So, I am also interested in meeting developers who might be
>>> interested in working on this project because my established codebase is
>>> fairly large (about 15000 lines) even without many features being
>>> implemented.
>>> I look forward to meeting all of you at the next meeting.
>>> Allan
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