[Chicago] Capistrano alternatives

Garrett Smith g at rrett.us.com
Fri Jan 2 19:45:34 CET 2009

Jason, your insight into the power of Python is quite keen. It's a wonder that frameworks exist at all -- just fire off a thread or two!

Of course, one is tempted to find useful abstractions that are proven in the community.

Thanks for the tips though.

----- "Jason Huggins" <jason at jrandolph.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Garrett Smith wrote:
> > I'm noticing that Capistrano is showing up in projects that need to
> deploy
> > and configure software across multiple servers. That's cool.
> > The Makefile + Ruby syntax is NOT cool.
> ...
> > Has anyone dabbled in this and have some insights?
> I *used* to flirt with the idea of creating a Rake clone for Python
> and call it "Snake"... :-) But I've matured since then.
> (Now get your hands and fingers ready for some serious "air quote"
> action coming up in the next paragraph.)
> I currently use an amazingly super awesome server deployment language
> called "Python". I define a sequence of build and deployment actions
> into units-of-work that I call "functions", and then I group all of
> these "functions" into one file that I call a "Python script". If any
> "functions" need to be run in parallel to each other, I either use
> something I call "threads" or other things I call "forked child
> processes". All told, my "Python scripts" are truly a wonder to
> behold
> and  represent a giant leap forward in server deployment
> state-of-the-art.
> Forgive my snarkiness, but my real belief is that "POP" (Plain Old
> Python) is an excellent tool for server deployment (at least for
> simple deployments). Specifically, os.system is your friend. Talk to
> it. (People smarter than I will point out, however, that the
> "subprocess" module is now favored over using os.system.)
> If your needs are really complex, however, you might want to
> investigate Engine Yard's recently open sourced "Vertebra" (
> http://www.engineyard.com/vertebra ). The integration point is XMPP,
> so even though the server bits of Vertebra are written in Ruby and
> Erlang, you can write your "real" deployment stuff in Python.
> Vertebra
> was partially created as a reaction to Cap. (proof: slides 21-25 of
> this: http://www.slideshare.net/ezmobius/vertebra ) (Side note: Along
> with ejabberd, I use the Twisted project's XMPP library heavily in my
> company's server deployment and maintenance scheme -- but again,
> POP+libraries rules the day for me.)
> cheers,
>   hugs
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