From waltaskew at gmail.com  Tue Jun  1 20:53:50 2010
From: waltaskew at gmail.com (Walter Askew)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 13:53:50 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Chicago Digest, Vol 58, Issue 1
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MySQLdb is a very no-frills package.  No-frills as in it doesn't support anything fancy like 'laziness' or 'real prepared statements'.  
I'm not joking about the no prepared statements thing.  You can write stuff like this:
c=db.cursor()
max_price=5
c.execute("""SELECT spam, eggs, sausage FROM breakfast
          WHERE price < %s""", (max_price,))
And it's pretty much what it looks like -- string interpolation.
For more featureful libraries, there's oursql (I've never used it myself) and the ever popular SQLAlchemy

I'm not sure how big of a project this is, but I've only used MySQLdb for writing one-off scripts (for which it's great.)  Especially for a larger project, using an ORM like SQLAlchemy can definitely be more pleasant than writing SQL by hand.  Plus, seriously, real prepared statements and laziness.

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> I would like to migrate a project from a custom database to using MySQL. The target system is a Linux system where I have unprivileged shell access and setuptools is installed. After playing around with easy_install and setting my PYTHONPATH, I have MySQLdb working, or at least importing.
> 
> Before I go further, I wanted to ask opinions on preferred ways of dealing with MySQL from Python. Is there any one package which is strongly preferred, and in particular is MySQLdb a choice to warn about, or a sane choice with sensible adherents?
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From g at rre.tt  Tue Jun  1 20:59:09 2010
From: g at rre.tt (Garrett Smith)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 13:59:09 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Chicago Digest, Vol 58, Issue 1
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I use MySQLdb quite a bit and have no complaints. Personally, I'd
start there unless I had requirements it obviously can't meet.

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Walter Askew <waltaskew at gmail.com> wrote:
> MySQLdb is a very no-frills package. ?No-frills as in it doesn't support
> anything fancy like 'laziness' or 'real prepared statements'.
> I'm not joking about the no prepared statements thing. ?You can write stuff
> like this:
>
> c=db.cursor()
> max_price=5
> c.execute("""SELECT spam, eggs, sausage FROM breakfast
>           WHERE price < %s""", (max_price,))
>
> And it's pretty much what it looks like -- string interpolation.
> For more featureful libraries, there's?oursql?(I've never used it myself)
> and the ever popular?SQLAlchemy
> I'm not sure how big of a project this is, but I've only used MySQLdb for
> writing one-off scripts (for which it's great.) ?Especially for a larger
> project, using an ORM like SQLAlchemy can definitely be more pleasant than
> writing SQL by hand. ?Plus, seriously, real prepared statements and
> laziness.
> On Jun 1, 2010, at 5:00 AM, chicago-request at python.org wrote:
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> From: Jonathan Hayward <christos.jonathan.hayward at gmail.com>
> Date: May 31, 2010 10:55:48 AM CDT
> To: The Chicago Python Users Group <chicago at python.org>
> Subject: [Chicago] MySQL from unprivileged account
> Reply-To: The Chicago Python Users Group <chicago at python.org>
>
>
> I would like to migrate a project from a custom database to using MySQL. The
> target system is a Linux system where I have unprivileged shell access and
> setuptools is installed. After playing around with easy_install and setting
> my PYTHONPATH, I have MySQLdb working, or at least importing.
> Before I go further, I wanted to ask opinions on preferred ways of dealing
> with MySQL from Python. Is there any one package which is strongly
> preferred, and in particular is MySQLdb a choice to warn about, or a sane
> choice with sensible adherents?
> --
> ? Jonathan Hayward, christos.jonathan.hayward at gmail.com
> ? An Orthodox Christian author: theology, literature, et cetera.
> ? My award-winning collection is available for free reading online:
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From tal.liron at threecrickets.com  Wed Jun  2 03:43:15 2010
From: tal.liron at threecrickets.com (Tal Liron)
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 20:43:15 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Chicago Digest, Vol 58, Issue 1
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  My experience with MySQLdb is less happy: it has severe memory leaks 
in Unicode mode (documented! not fixed for years!), and unclear 
(=undocumented!) thread safety.

As a latecomer to Python, I took the sad state of MySQL support in 
Python to be a very clear endorsement of Postgres. OK, I get it: 
Postgres is better.

-Tal

On 06/01/2010 01:59 PM, Garrett Smith wrote:
> I use MySQLdb quite a bit and have no complaints. Personally, I'd
> start there unless I had requirements it obviously can't meet.
>
> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Walter Askew<waltaskew at gmail.com>  wrote:
>> MySQLdb is a very no-frills package.  No-frills as in it doesn't support
>> anything fancy like 'laziness' or 'real prepared statements'.
>> I'm not joking about the no prepared statements thing.  You can write stuff
>> like this:
>>
>> c=db.cursor()
>> max_price=5
>> c.execute("""SELECT spam, eggs, sausage FROM breakfast
>>            WHERE price<  %s""", (max_price,))
>>
>> And it's pretty much what it looks like -- string interpolation.
>> For more featureful libraries, there's oursql (I've never used it myself)
>> and the ever popular SQLAlchemy
>> I'm not sure how big of a project this is, but I've only used MySQLdb for
>> writing one-off scripts (for which it's great.)  Especially for a larger
>> project, using an ORM like SQLAlchemy can definitely be more pleasant than
>> writing SQL by hand.  Plus, seriously, real prepared statements and
>> laziness.
>> On Jun 1, 2010, at 5:00 AM, chicago-request at python.org wrote:
>>
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>>
>> From: Jonathan Hayward<christos.jonathan.hayward at gmail.com>
>> Date: May 31, 2010 10:55:48 AM CDT
>> To: The Chicago Python Users Group<chicago at python.org>
>> Subject: [Chicago] MySQL from unprivileged account
>> Reply-To: The Chicago Python Users Group<chicago at python.org>
>>
>>
>> I would like to migrate a project from a custom database to using MySQL. The
>> target system is a Linux system where I have unprivileged shell access and
>> setuptools is installed. After playing around with easy_install and setting
>> my PYTHONPATH, I have MySQLdb working, or at least importing.
>> Before I go further, I wanted to ask opinions on preferred ways of dealing
>> with MySQL from Python. Is there any one package which is strongly
>> preferred, and in particular is MySQLdb a choice to warn about, or a sane
>> choice with sensible adherents?
>> --
>> ? Jonathan Hayward, christos.jonathan.hayward at gmail.com
>> ? An Orthodox Christian author: theology, literature, et cetera.
>> ? My award-winning collection is available for free reading online:
>> ? I invite you to visit my main site at http://JonathansCorner.com/
>>
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From pfein at pobox.com  Thu Jun  3 00:01:32 2010
From: pfein at pobox.com (Pete)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 15:01:32 -0700
Subject: [Chicago] ANN: Twiggy, a more Pythonic logger
Message-ID: <C4C62070-7334-4025-8DAF-F3D392A09AB8@pobox.com>

Hiya-

I'm pleased to announce the initial public release of Twiggy, a more Pythonic logger.  It was conceived at Pycon, at the prodding of Jesse Noller.  It features:

 * a clean, powerful syntax for logging using method chaining
 * loose coupling between log targets and emitters
 * glue vaguely inspired by Django's url dispatcher
 * easy support for structured logging
 * fixes for your personal pet peeves
 * features!

For a quick introduction, see: http://python-twiggy.googlecode.com/hg/notes.html
For a longer discussion and demo, see: http://carlfk.blip.tv/file/3551150/

Get it hot from the cheeseshop: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/Twiggy/
Feedback, help and donuts are always welcome.

--Pete

From tal.liron at threecrickets.com  Thu Jun  3 01:39:21 2010
From: tal.liron at threecrickets.com (Tal Liron)
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 18:39:21 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Chicago Digest, Vol 58, Issue 1
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  Another option is to use Jython with zxJDBC. This uses MySQL's 
official connector. I've had no issues with it thus far.

SQLAlchemy also explicitly supports the Jython/MySQL combination.

-Tal

On 06/01/2010 01:59 PM, Garrett Smith wrote:
> I use MySQLdb quite a bit and have no complaints. Personally, I'd
> start there unless I had requirements it obviously can't meet.

From carl at personnelware.com  Sat Jun  5 02:00:28 2010
From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 19:00:28 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] reminder: next meeting is next Thurs June 10
Message-ID: <AANLkTikObjE9ye9zljZanUqdMDOgEXbrFoa7rAWegNdS@mail.gmail.com>

Just a friendly reminder that there is a meeting next week.
I don't know what the talks will be, trying to get that together now.

From alex.gaynor at gmail.com  Sat Jun  5 02:10:20 2010
From: alex.gaynor at gmail.com (Alex Gaynor)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 19:10:20 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] reminder: next meeting is next Thurs June 10
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On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Carl Karsten <carl at personnelware.com> wrote:
> Just a friendly reminder that there is a meeting next week.
> I don't know what the talks will be, trying to get that together now.
> _______________________________________________
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If no one has volunteered yet I could do a talk on Making Python Fast,
Unladen Swallow and PyPy (roughly a preview of a talk I'll be doing at
PyOhio).

Alex

-- 
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your
right to say it." -- Voltaire
"The people's good is the highest law." -- Cicero
"Code can always be simpler than you think, but never as simple as you
want" -- Me

From carl at personnelware.com  Sat Jun  5 02:21:15 2010
From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 19:21:15 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] reminder: next meeting is next Thurs June 10
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On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 7:10 PM, Alex Gaynor <alex.gaynor at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Carl Karsten <carl at personnelware.com> wrote:
>> Just a friendly reminder that there is a meeting next week.
>> I don't know what the talks will be, trying to get that together now.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>
>
> If no one has volunteered yet I could do a talk on Making Python Fast,
> Unladen Swallow and PyPy (roughly a preview of a talk I'll be doing at
> PyOhio).
>

I just sent an email to the folks that wanted to talk last month but
didn't get enough votes, even though once the votes were counted about
100 people said "oh, I wanted to hear that one!"

I did hear back from one: no Twisted talk this month.  That leaves
Brian's Django Admin tricks and Chris's Blender magic.   Neither will
be quick talks, and I would want to give you enough time to do your
whole talk (great for practice.)   PyOhio is the end of July - you
available for ChiPy on July 8?



> Alex
>
> --
> "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your
> right to say it." -- Voltaire
> "The people's good is the highest law." -- Cicero
> "Code can always be simpler than you think, but never as simple as you
> want" -- Me
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-- 
Carl K

From alex.gaynor at gmail.com  Sat Jun  5 02:23:15 2010
From: alex.gaynor at gmail.com (Alex Gaynor)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 19:23:15 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] reminder: next meeting is next Thurs June 10
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On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Carl Karsten <carl at personnelware.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 7:10 PM, Alex Gaynor <alex.gaynor at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Carl Karsten <carl at personnelware.com> wrote:
>>> Just a friendly reminder that there is a meeting next week.
>>> I don't know what the talks will be, trying to get that together now.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Chicago mailing list
>>> Chicago at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>
>>
>> If no one has volunteered yet I could do a talk on Making Python Fast,
>> Unladen Swallow and PyPy (roughly a preview of a talk I'll be doing at
>> PyOhio).
>>
>
> I just sent an email to the folks that wanted to talk last month but
> didn't get enough votes, even though once the votes were counted about
> 100 people said "oh, I wanted to hear that one!"
>
> I did hear back from one: no Twisted talk this month. ?That leaves
> Brian's Django Admin tricks and Chris's Blender magic. ? Neither will
> be quick talks, and I would want to give you enough time to do your
> whole talk (great for practice.) ? PyOhio is the end of July - you
> available for ChiPy on July 8?
>
>
>
>> Alex
>>
>> --
>> "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your
>> right to say it." -- Voltaire
>> "The people's good is the highest law." -- Cicero
>> "Code can always be simpler than you think, but never as simple as you
>> want" -- Me
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Carl K
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
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> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>

Barring anything unforseen, next month is fine for me.

Alex

-- 
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your
right to say it." -- Voltaire
"The people's good is the highest law." -- Cicero
"Code can always be simpler than you think, but never as simple as you
want" -- Me

From danieltpeters at gmail.com  Sat Jun  5 18:20:11 2010
From: danieltpeters at gmail.com (Daniel Peters)
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 11:20:11 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] reminder: next meeting is next Thurs June 10
Message-ID: <AANLkTikE9vw8qqA0t_k7pVUXRdwKlN5VJ0iB4-FbguDA@mail.gmail.com>

+1 for the django admin talk whenever there's time for that.
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From brianhray at gmail.com  Sat Jun  5 22:56:21 2010
From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray)
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 15:56:21 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] reminder: next meeting is next Thurs June 10
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+1 for django admin :D
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From carl at personnelware.com  Sat Jun  5 23:23:22 2010
From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 16:23:22 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Thurs June 10 talks
Message-ID: <AANLkTikLNPxLjnwn-NIEsF6QzP9AbAwfPHjFSg5zrNpz@mail.gmail.com>

bam - official coming soon but for now:

Django admin - Brian Ray
Pizza - Imaginary Landscape (prolly, will know for sure monday)
Blender - Christopher Allan Webber
Books Giveaway - yet another pile of books, maybe some new titles.

-- 
Carl K

From tonkinjs at yahoo.com  Tue Jun  8 16:34:34 2010
From: tonkinjs at yahoo.com (Jonathan Tonkin)
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 07:34:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Chicago] Several items that may be of interest to group members
Message-ID: <823222.15693.qm@web111307.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hello,

While this may not be directly related to group topics, here are several items that may be of interest to group members.

1.) (shortest first) The Chicago Chapter of the ACM is now on Facebook and Twitter.? Join our Facebook Group (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=59120137059) or follow us on Twitter (username:? chicagoacm).

2.)? Next ACM Meeting: June 9, 2010 

A joint meeting with the Loyola University Computer Science Department

Speaker: Griffin Caprio

"Trimming the Fat: An Intro to Lean Software Development"

Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 6:30 pm
5:30 pm -6:30 pm (Social Hour)

Loyola University Water Tower Campus (Chicago/Michigan Area)
820 N. Michigan, Chicago IL 60611
Beane Ballroom (13th Floor, Lewis Towers)

Campus map: http://www.luc.edu/about/pdfs/wtc_may09.pdf 

Admission: Free (General Admission, No Reserved Seats)

Reservations:
To make a reservation, use this form:
(http://spreadsheets.google.com/a/chicagoacm.org/viewform?hl=en&formkey=dGNfTVR3OFhXOU9LX2tiRDVEVVV3Y3c6MA)
or send an e-mail to greg at neumarke.net. ?

About the Topic:

Lean software development optimizes flow through your development process, letting you achieve increased levels of output not possible with traditional processes.

This talk will teach you about adopting lean as a development process and, in addition, you will learn how you can integrate lean principles into your existing process. We'll be covering lean at a basic level, while mixing in some complementary topics such as the Theory of Constraints, achieving delivery flow, how to optimize your work queues and more. 

About the Speaker: 

Griffin Caprio is a technologist and entrepreneur who has been helping companies of all shapes and sizes with their technology needs for over 10 years. Since 2008, he has been running his own company here in Chicago, leading development teams, providing lean consulting, and playing the role of Part Time CTO for startups in the area. He also runs the Chicago Lean Startup Circle and Chicago Semantic Web Meetup.

More details at: http://www.chicagoacm.org/


Thanks,

Jonathan Tonkin 



      
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From carl at personnelware.com  Wed Jun  9 16:46:19 2010
From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 09:46:19 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] ANN: ChiPy at ITA Wed June 9, 7p
Message-ID: <AANLkTimVUaB_IRyS9mFF79GsUmbrrUhts23Uj62zmUu4@mail.gmail.com>

ChiPy
=========================

When: 7 PM Wednesday June 9, 2010
Where: ITA



Topics
------
 1. 7:00 Customizing the Django Admin (Brian Ray)
 2. 7:45 Pizza (Imaginary Landscape)
 3. 8:00 Automating Blender (Christopher Allan Webber)
 4. 8:45 Book Giveaway (Carl Karsten)


Details
-------

1. Customizing the Django Admin
Brian Ray
 * Registering Models in the Admin
 * Customizing the filtering, search, general display
 * Adding Actions
 * Inlines
 * Custom Forms
 * Making Fields Readonly by inheriting
 * Integrating jQuery
 * Custom Widgets like Image thumbnails
 * Changing look and feel

I plan on showing a live example and customizing as we go.

This will be a pretty mid-level talk and should be interesting to
those not familiar, those who know django and considered using the
admin, and for djangonuts who want to do some pretty advanced stuff.



2. Pizza
Imaginary Landscape
Local Python shop wants to make sure we don't pass out from
starvation. Select your toppings when you sign up for the meeting.
Return the favor by visiting http://chicagopython.com



3. Automating Blender
Christopher Allan Webber
Using Python to create blender objects.



4. Book Giveaway
Carl Karsten
Giving a talk, signing up, signing up on time and ordering pizza all
increase your chances to win.




Location
--------
Illinois Technology Association (ITA)
200 S. Wacker Drive
15th Floor
Chicago, IL 60606

312.435.2805
http://www.illinoistech.org

Metra: exit on Adams St, walk East across the bridge, first door on the right.

Show your ID to security.  Be on the list or they will be sad.  See
http://chipy.org for sign up instructions.

About the group
---------------
ChiPy is made up of people of all levels of programming and Python
knowledge. At every meeting we have had both beginning programmers,
people who are just starting to use Python, as well as experienced
Python programmers. Don't be intimidated about coming to a meeting.

Note that ChiPy is not a formal organization. We collect no dues,
elect no officers, and keep no roster. Signing up for the mailing list
carries no obligation. Nor does showing up at the meetings. Nor, at
least so far, does anything else we have done, although we always
appreciate it when our presenters show up. (They usually do!)

http://chipy.org

-- 
Carl K

From danieltpeters at gmail.com  Wed Jun  9 17:49:17 2010
From: danieltpeters at gmail.com (Daniel Peters)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 10:49:17 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] sigh.
Message-ID: <AANLkTilUhxwoQgQtCLUh2OjGDVPMMzTyVGiRgaN-y1sr@mail.gmail.com>

Who's got two thumbs and forgot where the meeting is this month?  This guy.
Is it at ITA again?
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From matt at mattokeefe.com  Wed Jun  9 17:59:52 2010
From: matt at mattokeefe.com (Matthew O'Keefe)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 10:59:52 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] polyglot and poly-paradigm programming presentation
Message-ID: <AANLkTimv-dN4UYwY2kU36-8aAJOV8ieu7prsN-bo8jkg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all-

You might enjoy this upcoming talk by Dean Wampler:
http://www.meetup.com/Morningstar-Tech-Talks/calendar/13682775/

-Matt
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From alex.gaynor at gmail.com  Wed Jun  9 18:03:03 2010
From: alex.gaynor at gmail.com (Alex Gaynor)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 11:03:03 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] sigh.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilUhxwoQgQtCLUh2OjGDVPMMzTyVGiRgaN-y1sr@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilUhxwoQgQtCLUh2OjGDVPMMzTyVGiRgaN-y1sr@mail.gmail.com>
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Yep!

Alex

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Daniel Peters <danieltpeters at gmail.com> wrote:
> Who's got two thumbs and forgot where the meeting is this month?? This guy.
> Is it at ITA again?
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>
>



-- 
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your
right to say it." -- Voltaire
"The people's good is the highest law." -- Cicero
"Code can always be simpler than you think, but never as simple as you
want" -- Me

From carl at personnelware.com  Wed Jun  9 18:21:19 2010
From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 11:21:19 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] ANN: correction: ChiPy at ITA Thu June 10, 7p
Message-ID: <AANLkTikhN2DkKXIWNC60dQduNSOtsP7s-mLcJX2P2-2P@mail.gmail.com>

ChiPy
=========================

When: 7 PM Thursday June 10, 2010
Where: ITA

Best meeting ever!

Topics
------
 1. 7:00 Customizing the Django Admin (Brian Ray)
 2. 7:45 Pizza (Imaginary Landscape)
 3. 8:00 Using Python for Blender Animations (Christopher Allan Webber)
 4. 8:45 Book Giveaway (Carl Karsten)


Details
-------

1. Customizing the Django Admin
Brian Ray
 * Registering Models in the Admin
 * Customizing the filtering, search, general display
 * Adding Actions
 * Inlines
 * Custom Forms
 * Making Fields Readonly by inheriting
 * Integrating jQuery
 * Custom Widgets like Image thumbnails
 * Changing look and feel

I plan on showing a live example and customizing as we go.

This will be a pretty mid-level talk and should be interesting to
those not familiar, those who know django and considered using the
admin, and for djangonuts who want to do some pretty advanced stuff.



2. Pizza
Imaginary Landscape
Local Python shop wants to make sure we don't pass out from
starvation. Select your toppings when you sign up for the meeting.
Return the favor by visiting http://chicagopython.com



3. Using Python for Blender Animations
Christopher Allan Webber
Creating tools with Python and Blender 2.5's bpy API -  A walk through
using Blender 2.5's new Python API to automate various animation
tasks, using examples from the film Patent Absurdity:
http://patentabsurdity.com/
 http://patentabsurdity.com/fsf_patent_anims.tar.gz has the sources of
the animations demonstrated



4. Book Giveaway
Carl Karsten
Giving a talk, signing up, signing up on time and ordering pizza all
increase your chances to win.




Location
--------
Illinois Technology Association (ITA)
200 S. Wacker Drive
15th Floor
Chicago, IL 60606

312.435.2805
http://www.illinoistech.org

Metra: exit on Adams St, walk East across the bridge, first door on the right.

Show your ID to security.  Be on the list or they will be sad.  See
http://chipy.org/FrontPage#sign-up for details.

About the group
---------------
ChiPy is made up of people of all levels of programming and Python
knowledge. At every meeting we have had both beginning programmers,
people who are just starting to use Python, as well as experienced
Python programmers. Don't be intimidated about coming to a meeting.

Note that ChiPy is not a formal organization. We collect no dues,
elect no officers, and keep no roster. Signing up for the mailing list
carries no obligation. Nor does showing up at the meetings. Nor, at
least so far, does anything else we have done, although we always
appreciate it when our presenters show up. (They usually do!)

http://chipy.org

From m-rich at northwestern.edu  Wed Jun  9 18:15:51 2010
From: m-rich at northwestern.edu (Matthew Rich)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 11:15:51 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] sigh.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikNjFKKB4PDFfD1IooJ8buwTl-o_3k5Vm7-rObc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilUhxwoQgQtCLUh2OjGDVPMMzTyVGiRgaN-y1sr@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikNjFKKB4PDFfD1IooJ8buwTl-o_3k5Vm7-rObc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikK9jkh7AReAmmwgHQ8uRBJWC2Otl-iWdWecxW0@mail.gmail.com>

And it's tonight (Wednesday), not tomorrow night (Thursday)?

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Alex Gaynor <alex.gaynor at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yep!
>
> Alex
>
> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Daniel Peters <danieltpeters at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Who's got two thumbs and forgot where the meeting is this month?  This
> guy.
> > Is it at ITA again?
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Chicago mailing list
> > Chicago at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your
> right to say it." -- Voltaire
> "The people's good is the highest law." -- Cicero
> "Code can always be simpler than you think, but never as simple as you
> want" -- Me
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>



-- 
Matthew Rich
Senior Web Application Developer
Northwestern University
School of Education and Social Policy
Annenberg Hall, Room 249
+1 847 467 2819
m-rich at northwestern.edu
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From alex.gaynor at gmail.com  Wed Jun  9 18:26:04 2010
From: alex.gaynor at gmail.com (Alex Gaynor)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 11:26:04 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] sigh.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikK9jkh7AReAmmwgHQ8uRBJWC2Otl-iWdWecxW0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilUhxwoQgQtCLUh2OjGDVPMMzTyVGiRgaN-y1sr@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikNjFKKB4PDFfD1IooJ8buwTl-o_3k5Vm7-rObc@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikK9jkh7AReAmmwgHQ8uRBJWC2Otl-iWdWecxW0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikML_pqzn8Oft9GG0FXbdBPAOvkK_w0jp-nJG-z@mail.gmail.com>

The email Carl just sent has the 10th in the title, so I'd assume...

Alex

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Matthew Rich <m-rich at northwestern.edu> wrote:
> And it's tonight (Wednesday), not tomorrow night (Thursday)?
>
> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Alex Gaynor <alex.gaynor at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Yep!
>>
>> Alex
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Daniel Peters <danieltpeters at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Who's got two thumbs and forgot where the meeting is this month?? This
>> > guy.
>> > Is it at ITA again?
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Chicago mailing list
>> > Chicago at python.org
>> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your
>> right to say it." -- Voltaire
>> "The people's good is the highest law." -- Cicero
>> "Code can always be simpler than you think, but never as simple as you
>> want" -- Me
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>
>
>
> --
> Matthew Rich
> Senior Web Application Developer
> Northwestern University
> School of Education and Social Policy
> Annenberg Hall, Room 249
> +1 847 467 2819
> m-rich at northwestern.edu
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>
>



-- 
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your
right to say it." -- Voltaire
"The people's good is the highest law." -- Cicero
"Code can always be simpler than you think, but never as simple as you
want" -- Me

From heflin.rosst at gmail.com  Wed Jun  9 20:10:23 2010
From: heflin.rosst at gmail.com (Ross Heflin)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 13:10:23 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] sigh.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikML_pqzn8Oft9GG0FXbdBPAOvkK_w0jp-nJG-z@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilUhxwoQgQtCLUh2OjGDVPMMzTyVGiRgaN-y1sr@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikNjFKKB4PDFfD1IooJ8buwTl-o_3k5Vm7-rObc@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikK9jkh7AReAmmwgHQ8uRBJWC2Otl-iWdWecxW0@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikML_pqzn8Oft9GG0FXbdBPAOvkK_w0jp-nJG-z@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilSUknkm6EbLeUrnVxBkhiR-kTV1sBiCQZ4lvlK@mail.gmail.com>

Who in their right mind would schedule something in Chicago on an
evening when the Blackhawks are playing game 6 of the finals?  I'm
thinking its still on Thursday.

Just a thought.  *straps on flame-retardant PJs*

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Alex Gaynor <alex.gaynor at gmail.com> wrote:
> The email Carl just sent has the 10th in the title, so I'd assume...
>
> Alex
>
> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Matthew Rich <m-rich at northwestern.edu> wrote:
>> And it's tonight (Wednesday), not tomorrow night (Thursday)?
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Alex Gaynor <alex.gaynor at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yep!
>>>
>>> Alex
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Daniel Peters <danieltpeters at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Who's got two thumbs and forgot where the meeting is this month?? This
>>> > guy.
>>> > Is it at ITA again?
>>> >
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > Chicago mailing list
>>> > Chicago at python.org
>>> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your
>>> right to say it." -- Voltaire
>>> "The people's good is the highest law." -- Cicero
>>> "Code can always be simpler than you think, but never as simple as you
>>> want" -- Me
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Chicago mailing list
>>> Chicago at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Matthew Rich
>> Senior Web Application Developer
>> Northwestern University
>> School of Education and Social Policy
>> Annenberg Hall, Room 249
>> +1 847 467 2819
>> m-rich at northwestern.edu
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your
> right to say it." -- Voltaire
> "The people's good is the highest law." -- Cicero
> "Code can always be simpler than you think, but never as simple as you
> want" -- Me
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>



-- 
>From the desk of Ross Heflin
phone number: (847) <23,504,826th decimal place of pi>

From carl at personnelware.com  Wed Jun  9 20:13:05 2010
From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 13:13:05 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] sigh.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilSUknkm6EbLeUrnVxBkhiR-kTV1sBiCQZ4lvlK@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilUhxwoQgQtCLUh2OjGDVPMMzTyVGiRgaN-y1sr@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikNjFKKB4PDFfD1IooJ8buwTl-o_3k5Vm7-rObc@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikK9jkh7AReAmmwgHQ8uRBJWC2Otl-iWdWecxW0@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikML_pqzn8Oft9GG0FXbdBPAOvkK_w0jp-nJG-z@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTilSUknkm6EbLeUrnVxBkhiR-kTV1sBiCQZ4lvlK@mail.gmail.com>
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No one in their right mind would schedule game 6 on the same night as ChiPy.

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Ross Heflin <heflin.rosst at gmail.com> wrote:
> Who in their right mind would schedule something in Chicago on an
> evening when the Blackhawks are playing game 6 of the finals? ?I'm
> thinking its still on Thursday.
>
> Just a thought. ?*straps on flame-retardant PJs*
>
> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Alex Gaynor <alex.gaynor at gmail.com> wrote:
>> The email Carl just sent has the 10th in the title, so I'd assume...
>>
>> Alex
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Matthew Rich <m-rich at northwestern.edu> wrote:
>>> And it's tonight (Wednesday), not tomorrow night (Thursday)?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Alex Gaynor <alex.gaynor at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yep!
>>>>
>>>> Alex
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Daniel Peters <danieltpeters at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > Who's got two thumbs and forgot where the meeting is this month?? This
>>>> > guy.
>>>> > Is it at ITA again?
>>>> >
>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>> > Chicago mailing list
>>>> > Chicago at python.org
>>>> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your
>>>> right to say it." -- Voltaire
>>>> "The people's good is the highest law." -- Cicero
>>>> "Code can always be simpler than you think, but never as simple as you
>>>> want" -- Me
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Chicago mailing list
>>>> Chicago at python.org
>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Matthew Rich
>>> Senior Web Application Developer
>>> Northwestern University
>>> School of Education and Social Policy
>>> Annenberg Hall, Room 249
>>> +1 847 467 2819
>>> m-rich at northwestern.edu
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Chicago mailing list
>>> Chicago at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your
>> right to say it." -- Voltaire
>> "The people's good is the highest law." -- Cicero
>> "Code can always be simpler than you think, but never as simple as you
>> want" -- Me
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>
>
>
>
> --
> >From the desk of Ross Heflin
> phone number: (847) <23,504,826th decimal place of pi>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>



-- 
Carl K

From orblivion at gmail.com  Wed Jun  9 20:21:22 2010
From: orblivion at gmail.com (Dan Krol)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 13:21:22 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] sigh.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin8ZjYeMqdcoWetkiV0FyhjHM1KIctiO-81mqYQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilUhxwoQgQtCLUh2OjGDVPMMzTyVGiRgaN-y1sr@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikNjFKKB4PDFfD1IooJ8buwTl-o_3k5Vm7-rObc@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikK9jkh7AReAmmwgHQ8uRBJWC2Otl-iWdWecxW0@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikML_pqzn8Oft9GG0FXbdBPAOvkK_w0jp-nJG-z@mail.gmail.com>
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Is it possible to upvote Carl's email?

On 6/9/10, Carl Karsten <carl at personnelware.com> wrote:
> No one in their right mind would schedule game 6 on the same night as ChiPy.
>
>
>  On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Ross Heflin <heflin.rosst at gmail.com> wrote:
>  > Who in their right mind would schedule something in Chicago on an
>  > evening when the Blackhawks are playing game 6 of the finals?  I'm
>  > thinking its still on Thursday.
>  >
>  > Just a thought.  *straps on flame-retardant PJs*
>  >
>  > On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Alex Gaynor <alex.gaynor at gmail.com> wrote:
>  >> The email Carl just sent has the 10th in the title, so I'd assume...
>  >>
>  >> Alex
>  >>
>  >> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Matthew Rich <m-rich at northwestern.edu> wrote:
>  >>> And it's tonight (Wednesday), not tomorrow night (Thursday)?
>  >>>
>  >>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Alex Gaynor <alex.gaynor at gmail.com> wrote:
>  >>>>
>  >>>> Yep!
>  >>>>
>  >>>> Alex
>  >>>>
>  >>>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Daniel Peters <danieltpeters at gmail.com>
>  >>>> wrote:
>  >>>> > Who's got two thumbs and forgot where the meeting is this month?  This
>  >>>> > guy.
>  >>>> > Is it at ITA again?
>  >>>> >
>  >>>> > _______________________________________________
>  >>>> > Chicago mailing list
>  >>>> > Chicago at python.org
>  >>>> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>  >>>> >
>  >>>> >
>  >>>>
>  >>>>
>  >>>>
>  >>>> --
>  >>>> "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your
>  >>>> right to say it." -- Voltaire
>  >>>> "The people's good is the highest law." -- Cicero
>  >>>> "Code can always be simpler than you think, but never as simple as you
>  >>>> want" -- Me
>  >>>> _______________________________________________
>  >>>> Chicago mailing list
>  >>>> Chicago at python.org
>  >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>> --
>  >>> Matthew Rich
>  >>> Senior Web Application Developer
>  >>> Northwestern University
>  >>> School of Education and Social Policy
>  >>> Annenberg Hall, Room 249
>  >>> +1 847 467 2819
>  >>> m-rich at northwestern.edu
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>> _______________________________________________
>  >>> Chicago mailing list
>  >>> Chicago at python.org
>  >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> --
>  >> "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your
>  >> right to say it." -- Voltaire
>  >> "The people's good is the highest law." -- Cicero
>  >> "Code can always be simpler than you think, but never as simple as you
>  >> want" -- Me
>  >> _______________________________________________
>  >> Chicago mailing list
>  >> Chicago at python.org
>  >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>  >>
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > --
>  > >From the desk of Ross Heflin
>  > phone number: (847) <23,504,826th decimal place of pi>
>  > _______________________________________________
>  > Chicago mailing list
>  > Chicago at python.org
>  > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>  >
>
>
>
>
> --
>  Carl K
>
> _______________________________________________
>  Chicago mailing list
>  Chicago at python.org
>  http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>

From heflin.rosst at gmail.com  Wed Jun  9 20:36:52 2010
From: heflin.rosst at gmail.com (Ross Heflin)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 13:36:52 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] sigh.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinGtnXJ59XsMxdQn9WZQrjKDN6Vs25PROQSCApQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilUhxwoQgQtCLUh2OjGDVPMMzTyVGiRgaN-y1sr@mail.gmail.com>
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	<AANLkTin8ZjYeMqdcoWetkiV0FyhjHM1KIctiO-81mqYQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinGtnXJ59XsMxdQn9WZQrjKDN6Vs25PROQSCApQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilNSk-14L7CfCJRPCzj4Swv79utIXjZdIB3z9Kl@mail.gmail.com>

what can I say... I love hockey.... even when its ~80 degrees outside

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Dan Krol <orblivion at gmail.com> wrote:
> Is it possible to upvote Carl's email?
>
> On 6/9/10, Carl Karsten <carl at personnelware.com> wrote:
>> No one in their right mind would schedule game 6 on the same night as ChiPy.
>>
>>
>> ?On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Ross Heflin <heflin.rosst at gmail.com> wrote:
>> ?> Who in their right mind would schedule something in Chicago on an
>> ?> evening when the Blackhawks are playing game 6 of the finals? ?I'm
>> ?> thinking its still on Thursday.
>> ?>
>> ?> Just a thought. ?*straps on flame-retardant PJs*
>> ?>
>> ?> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Alex Gaynor <alex.gaynor at gmail.com> wrote:
>> ?>> The email Carl just sent has the 10th in the title, so I'd assume...
>> ?>>
>> ?>> Alex
>> ?>>
>> ?>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Matthew Rich <m-rich at northwestern.edu> wrote:
>> ?>>> And it's tonight (Wednesday), not tomorrow night (Thursday)?
>> ?>>>
>> ?>>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Alex Gaynor <alex.gaynor at gmail.com> wrote:
>> ?>>>>
>> ?>>>> Yep!
>> ?>>>>
>> ?>>>> Alex
>> ?>>>>
>> ?>>>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Daniel Peters <danieltpeters at gmail.com>
>> ?>>>> wrote:
>> ?>>>> > Who's got two thumbs and forgot where the meeting is this month? ?This
>> ?>>>> > guy.
>> ?>>>> > Is it at ITA again?
>> ?>>>> >
>> ?>>>> > _______________________________________________
>> ?>>>> > Chicago mailing list
>> ?>>>> > Chicago at python.org
>> ?>>>> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>> ?>>>> >
>> ?>>>> >
>> ?>>>>
>> ?>>>>
>> ?>>>>
>> ?>>>> --
>> ?>>>> "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your
>> ?>>>> right to say it." -- Voltaire
>> ?>>>> "The people's good is the highest law." -- Cicero
>> ?>>>> "Code can always be simpler than you think, but never as simple as you
>> ?>>>> want" -- Me
>> ?>>>> _______________________________________________
>> ?>>>> Chicago mailing list
>> ?>>>> Chicago at python.org
>> ?>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>> ?>>>
>> ?>>>
>> ?>>>
>> ?>>> --
>> ?>>> Matthew Rich
>> ?>>> Senior Web Application Developer
>> ?>>> Northwestern University
>> ?>>> School of Education and Social Policy
>> ?>>> Annenberg Hall, Room 249
>> ?>>> +1 847 467 2819
>> ?>>> m-rich at northwestern.edu
>> ?>>>
>> ?>>>
>> ?>>> _______________________________________________
>> ?>>> Chicago mailing list
>> ?>>> Chicago at python.org
>> ?>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>> ?>>>
>> ?>>>
>> ?>>
>> ?>>
>> ?>>
>> ?>> --
>> ?>> "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your
>> ?>> right to say it." -- Voltaire
>> ?>> "The people's good is the highest law." -- Cicero
>> ?>> "Code can always be simpler than you think, but never as simple as you
>> ?>> want" -- Me
>> ?>> _______________________________________________
>> ?>> Chicago mailing list
>> ?>> Chicago at python.org
>> ?>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>> ?>>
>> ?>
>> ?>
>> ?>
>> ?> --
>> ?> >From the desk of Ross Heflin
>> ?> phone number: (847) <23,504,826th decimal place of pi>
>> ?> _______________________________________________
>> ?> Chicago mailing list
>> ?> Chicago at python.org
>> ?> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>> ?>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> ?Carl K
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> ?Chicago mailing list
>> ?Chicago at python.org
>> ?http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>



-- 
>From the desk of Ross Heflin
phone number: (847) <23,504,826th decimal place of pi>

From d-beazley at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jun 10 07:19:17 2010
From: d-beazley at sbcglobal.net (David Beazley)
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 00:19:17 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Django Tutorial - June 24 - Last Chance
In-Reply-To: <mailman.4485.1276100512.32708.chicago@python.org>
References: <mailman.4485.1276100512.32708.chicago@python.org>
Message-ID: <4268A602-8922-4CA4-98A1-13A034C9A0A3@sbcglobal.net>

Chipy,

Just a quick note to say that there is still one opening left in the "Jamming with Django" course being taught by Chad Glendenin and Rodrigo Guzman on June 24th.   Come up Clark Street to Andersonville, find free parking, eat evil pastries, and spend the day learning about Django.   What more could you want?   Further details at http://www.dabeaz.com/chicago/index.html

Cheers,
Dave





From carl at personnelware.com  Thu Jun 10 15:13:11 2010
From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 08:13:11 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] pizza order going in soon
Message-ID: <AANLkTinRGQD1rNL2ntgqsxxlctXdOMkRubGlzcmzVwNR@mail.gmail.com>

I am starting to gather up the pizza orders, which typically takes me
hours between now and when I actually send, so if you have been
meaning to put in your order, now is the time.   Or maybe if you are
reading this hours from now, it may be too late.

-- 
Carl K

From carl at personnelware.com  Thu Jun 10 17:21:00 2010
From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 10:21:00 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] RSVP for tonights meeting
Message-ID: <AANLkTillIjmf0JLpxuBZ3aQf9_IznAMSoD6fFAtMQ8FQ@mail.gmail.com>

If you might attend, please sign up so that security has your name:
http://chipy.org/FrontPage#sign-up

add your pizza order in the comments.  and they are personal pizzas,
so saying you will eat what ever is there is saying you will hope
someone shares their pizza with you.  which they will, but seems goofy
to plan on that when you could just get your own.

I need to make this stuff more clear-er next time.

Need to run to the post office to see how much it will cost to ship AV
gear to PyCon Australia.  I'll put the order in when I get back from
that.

-- 
Carl K

From carl at personnelware.com  Thu Jun 10 17:44:22 2010
From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 10:44:22 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] RSVP for tonights meeting
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTillIjmf0JLpxuBZ3aQf9_IznAMSoD6fFAtMQ8FQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTillIjmf0JLpxuBZ3aQf9_IznAMSoD6fFAtMQ8FQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimLEgqnoGNT8YyVBRysf1gF6GiqnX0xdJ_8oY0A@mail.gmail.com>

Don't email me.

Well, feel free to email me, I will converse with anyone.  But don't
expect me to add your name to the list or put in your pizza order.
Unless you can give me an interesting explanation why you need me to.
jpeg or it didn't happen.

On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Carl Karsten <carl at personnelware.com> wrote:
> If you might attend, please sign up so that security has your name:
> http://chipy.org/FrontPage#sign-up
>
> add your pizza order in the comments. ?and they are personal pizzas,
> so saying you will eat what ever is there is saying you will hope
> someone shares their pizza with you. ?which they will, but seems goofy
> to plan on that when you could just get your own.
>
> I need to make this stuff more clear-er next time.
>
> Need to run to the post office to see how much it will cost to ship AV
> gear to PyCon Australia. ?I'll put the order in when I get back from
> that.
>
> --
> Carl K
>



-- 
Carl K

From alex.gaynor at gmail.com  Thu Jun 10 17:57:58 2010
From: alex.gaynor at gmail.com (Alex Gaynor)
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 10:57:58 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] RSVP for tonights meeting
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimLEgqnoGNT8YyVBRysf1gF6GiqnX0xdJ_8oY0A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTillIjmf0JLpxuBZ3aQf9_IznAMSoD6fFAtMQ8FQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimLEgqnoGNT8YyVBRysf1gF6GiqnX0xdJ_8oY0A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim8J2CVwiYA17VGJFrBntJPacLbF59yJ_kUSG_5@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Carl Karsten <carl at personnelware.com> wrote:
> Don't email me.
>
> Well, feel free to email me, I will converse with anyone. ?But don't
> expect me to add your name to the list or put in your pizza order.
> Unless you can give me an interesting explanation why you need me to.
> jpeg or it didn't happen.
>
> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Carl Karsten <carl at personnelware.com> wrote:
>> If you might attend, please sign up so that security has your name:
>> http://chipy.org/FrontPage#sign-up
>>
>> add your pizza order in the comments. ?and they are personal pizzas,
>> so saying you will eat what ever is there is saying you will hope
>> someone shares their pizza with you. ?which they will, but seems goofy
>> to plan on that when you could just get your own.
>>
>> I need to make this stuff more clear-er next time.
>>
>> Need to run to the post office to see how much it will cost to ship AV
>> gear to PyCon Australia. ?I'll put the order in when I get back from
>> that.
>>
>> --
>> Carl K
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Carl K
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>

Surely you mean PNG...


Alex

-- 
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your
right to say it." -- Voltaire
"The people's good is the highest law." -- Cicero
"Code can always be simpler than you think, but never as simple as you
want" -- Me

From carl at personnelware.com  Thu Jun 10 20:54:09 2010
From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:54:09 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] pizza order gone
Message-ID: <AANLkTimloZKAeBVMTKQW54vmyQmf7jXHY9H7QmORaEp1@mail.gmail.com>

Woosh!

That was the sound of the INTERNET.

-- 
Carl K

From brianhray at gmail.com  Fri Jun 11 01:50:47 2010
From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray)
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 18:50:47 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Meeting Running later
Message-ID: <AANLkTil3NG-gTdD9BKtxpqRggXuUi09bb1oogNJ4Vtxa@mail.gmail.com>

Since our AV superstar, Carl, is running a little late, we will start the
meeting at 7:30 instead of 7:00.
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From helen.tan at manifestdigital.com  Wed Jun  9 23:11:43 2010
From: helen.tan at manifestdigital.com (Helen Tan)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 16:11:43 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Django Developer (Contract) Needed!
Message-ID: <AANLkTimNzIg11TONYdq9BWBIJs_AJk8SkIEC8mjS9hzY@mail.gmail.com>

*SUMMARY*

Why did you wake up today? If you're like us, you crawled out of bed and
pulled on your boots to figure out how to do something wildly, insanely,
great. (Because you'd go a little mad if you didn't.) We know. We get it.

We're *Manifest/Kerosene*. The brainchild of two of the most compelling,
competitive digital agencies in the business. Seen some cool LEGO stuff
lately? That's us. Tinkered with any award winning social networking
executions for Bally Total Fitness or McDonalds? Yep, us too. Been knocked
out by an online experience for one of Hollywood's latest blockbusters?
Again, yours truly.

For us it's not truly great if it doesn't blow our own minds first? long
before we get to yours. But it isn't creative for creativity's sake. It's
creative with purpose. We design to inspire, spark conversation, and engage
people in the most compelling, meaningful ways.

Today, we're looking to step things up. Recent investments have allowed us
to fire up the after-burners, propelling us head-on to one simple goal...
create the best new agency the world has never seen... and we need your help
to bring it to fruition.

Join us. Be a part of defining our biggest chapter yet: in Chicago, in L.A.
and wherever we decide to set up shop next.

Manifest Digital is seeking a knowledgeable *Django developer* to join a 10
week custom application development project for a major online food
publication.  Prospective candidates will have Django code available at the
ready to convey their skills and familiarity with the framework (a GitHub
account with forked repos or custom apps is ideal).  Experience integrating
with Facebook Connect and other RESTful web services is highly desired, but
not necessary.   This role will expect familiarity in developing both the
frontend (HTML/CSS/JS) and backend of a web application.  If you are
interested and meet the following qualifications, please contact Manifest
Digital Recruiting at recruiting at manifestdigital.com.



*QUALIFICATIONS*

?         3+ years web development and python experience

?         1+ years django custom application development experience

?         Comfort with DVCS git

?         Knowledge of pip and virtualenv a plus

?         Familiarity with RDBMS, specifically PostgreSQL, preferred

?         Welcome knowledgeable developers that aren't afraid of voicing
their opinion on production stack deployment, but not necessary

Founded in 2001, Manifest has offices in Chicago and Los Angeles. Our
clients include LEGO, Universal Pictures, Warner Bros, Bally Total Fitness,
McDonalds, Sony Pictures, 20th Century Fox, Avon, Coca-Cola, Nike, Burton
Snowboards, Namco Bandai Games? and many, many more.

Here's a few samples of recent work:

LEGO ATLANTIS http://atlantis.lego.com

ROBIN HOOD, official movie website http://www.robinhoodthemovie.com

And our temporary homebases: http://www.kerosenecreative.com,
http://www.manifestdigital.com.


-- 
Helen Tan
HR Coordinator

Manifest Digital
600 W. Chicago Ave. Suite 290
Chicago, IL 60654
Direct (312) 589-6808
Fax (312) 803-9669
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From carl at personnelware.com  Thu Jun 17 16:47:06 2010
From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 09:47:06 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] WindyCityDB discount
Message-ID: <AANLkTiklxutTXZOOB6_uR42InIzhxbTKOGN9ijczS71q@mail.gmail.com>

"""
WindyCityDB (http://windycitydb.org) is nine days away, and we're
offering a discount code for your members:

    Discount code =  CHIPY
"""

I know nothing about the event, other than there will be a talk about Hadoop.

-- 
Carl K

From dgriff1 at gmail.com  Thu Jun 17 17:01:11 2010
From: dgriff1 at gmail.com (Daniel Griffin)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 10:01:11 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] WindyCityDB discount
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTiklxutTXZOOB6_uR42InIzhxbTKOGN9ijczS71q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTiklxutTXZOOB6_uR42InIzhxbTKOGN9ijczS71q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTil4uoZG9n-Xgw2ee4pf4F0foZM6c6zc5MBUZZxU@mail.gmail.com>

I will be there for my employer who is pushing CouchDB. If you want to know
about the broad DBs under the NoSQL name then you can see a talk about every
kind. Hadoop, Riak, CouchDB etc.

Dan

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Carl Karsten <carl at personnelware.com>wrote:

> """
> WindyCityDB (http://windycitydb.org) is nine days away, and we're
> offering a discount code for your members:
>
>    Discount code =  CHIPY
> """
>
> I know nothing about the event, other than there will be a talk about
> Hadoop.
>
> --
> Carl K
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>
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From brianherman at gmail.com  Thu Jun 17 17:19:00 2010
From: brianherman at gmail.com (Brian Herman)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 10:19:00 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] WindyCityDB discount
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil4uoZG9n-Xgw2ee4pf4F0foZM6c6zc5MBUZZxU@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTiklxutTXZOOB6_uR42InIzhxbTKOGN9ijczS71q@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTil4uoZG9n-Xgw2ee4pf4F0foZM6c6zc5MBUZZxU@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTil_F9EidXWz-W3Xt-2PRTmuPIeGW9qNSFInnaDm@mail.gmail.com>

Discount code expired already?
Is it that good?

Thanks,
Brian Herman

brianjherman.com
Research Assistant
University Of Illinois at Chicago



On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Daniel Griffin <dgriff1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I will be there for my employer who is pushing CouchDB. If you want to know
> about the broad DBs under the NoSQL name then you can see a talk about every
> kind. Hadoop, Riak, CouchDB etc.
>
> Dan
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Carl Karsten <carl at personnelware.com>wrote:
>
>> """
>> WindyCityDB (http://windycitydb.org) is nine days away, and we're
>> offering a discount code for your members:
>>
>>    Discount code =  CHIPY
>> """
>>
>> I know nothing about the event, other than there will be a talk about
>> Hadoop.
>>
>> --
>> Carl K
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>
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From carl at personnelware.com  Thu Jun 17 17:27:50 2010
From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 10:27:50 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] WindyCityDB discount
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil_F9EidXWz-W3Xt-2PRTmuPIeGW9qNSFInnaDm@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTiklxutTXZOOB6_uR42InIzhxbTKOGN9ijczS71q@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTil4uoZG9n-Xgw2ee4pf4F0foZM6c6zc5MBUZZxU@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTil_F9EidXWz-W3Xt-2PRTmuPIeGW9qNSFInnaDm@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimlXO-YTZQq8N5wGsdLnWHw-Ia-2P7wOu3EKuKA@mail.gmail.com>

DOH!

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Brian Herman <brianherman at gmail.com> wrote:
> Discount code expired already?
> Is it that good?
>
> Thanks,
> Brian Herman
>
> brianjherman.com
> Research Assistant
> University Of Illinois at Chicago
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Daniel Griffin <dgriff1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I will be there for my employer who is pushing CouchDB. If you want to
>> know about the broad DBs under the NoSQL name then you can see a talk about
>> every kind. Hadoop, Riak, CouchDB etc.
>> Dan
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Carl Karsten <carl at personnelware.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> """
>>> WindyCityDB (http://windycitydb.org) is nine days away, and we're
>>> offering a discount code for your members:
>>>
>>> ? ?Discount code = ?CHIPY
>>> """
>>>
>>> I know nothing about the event, other than there will be a talk about
>>> Hadoop.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Carl K
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Chicago mailing list
>>> Chicago at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>
>



-- 
Carl K

From brianherman at gmail.com  Sat Jun 19 04:25:27 2010
From: brianherman at gmail.com (Brian Herman)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 21:25:27 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Google Command Line tool
Message-ID: <AANLkTinbbI5HM9vYlmHSVDSXIdoAkuPZy75h8U95vOIk@mail.gmail.com>

http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2010/06/introducing-google-command-line-tool.html
<http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2010/06/introducing-google-command-line-tool.html>
WOWZERS!

Thanks,
Brian Herman

brianjherman.com
Research Assistant
University Of Illinois at Chicago
brianherman at acm.org
Consultant
University of Chicago
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From rth at wisdomgroup.com  Thu Jun 17 17:54:59 2010
From: rth at wisdomgroup.com (Raymond T. Hightower)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 10:54:59 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] WindyCityDB discount
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimlXO-YTZQq8N5wGsdLnWHw-Ia-2P7wOu3EKuKA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTiklxutTXZOOB6_uR42InIzhxbTKOGN9ijczS71q@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTil4uoZG9n-Xgw2ee4pf4F0foZM6c6zc5MBUZZxU@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTil_F9EidXWz-W3Xt-2PRTmuPIeGW9qNSFInnaDm@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimlXO-YTZQq8N5wGsdLnWHw-Ia-2P7wOu3EKuKA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilRFAa_5O3dO_tN8nW5Po2BQv7JdEqT7XNE8wT6@mail.gmail.com>

Carl, Brian, Dan-

Sorry about the expiration problem. We've corrected it. Discount code =
CHIPY for http://windycitydb.org. Feel free to email me if you run into any
other snags.

Thanks,
Ray

________________________________
Raymond T. Hightower, President
WisdomGroup
http://WisdomGroup.com
http://WindyCityDB.org
312.842.2200 (phone)
312.803.0768 (fax)


On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Carl Karsten <carl at personnelware.com>wrote:

> DOH!
>
> On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Brian Herman <brianherman at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Discount code expired already?
> > Is it that good?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Brian Herman
> >
> > brianjherman.com
> > Research Assistant
> > University Of Illinois at Chicago
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Daniel Griffin <dgriff1 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I will be there for my employer who is pushing CouchDB. If you want to
> >> know about the broad DBs under the NoSQL name then you can see a talk
> about
> >> every kind. Hadoop, Riak, CouchDB etc.
> >> Dan
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Carl Karsten <carl at personnelware.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> """
> >>> WindyCityDB (http://windycitydb.org) is nine days away, and we're
> >>> offering a discount code for your members:
> >>>
> >>>    Discount code =  CHIPY
> >>> """
> >>>
> >>> I know nothing about the event, other than there will be a talk about
> >>> Hadoop.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Carl K
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Chicago mailing list
> >>> Chicago at python.org
> >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Chicago mailing list
> >> Chicago at python.org
> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
> >>
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Chicago mailing list
> > Chicago at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Carl K
>
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From: richard at thelawyermarket.com (Richard Komaiko)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 11:48:35 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Programmer Wanted
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now considering bringing on an additional programmer, or at least an intern.
 We are on the lookout for Chicago area python programmers.  If anyone is
interested, please contact me for more information.

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-- 
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From shekay at pobox.com  Mon Jun 28 17:09:04 2010
From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:09:04 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] hadoop and python?
Message-ID: <AANLkTimfETo7kcFmI1Q9fAgQiAvwoFd9LCkPPnIwKHln@mail.gmail.com>

Are any of you using hadoop? I'm soliciting talks for the hadoop user group.

-- 
sheila

From brianhray at gmail.com  Mon Jun 28 17:21:44 2010
From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:21:44 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] hadoop and python?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimfETo7kcFmI1Q9fAgQiAvwoFd9LCkPPnIwKHln@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimfETo7kcFmI1Q9fAgQiAvwoFd9LCkPPnIwKHln@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikmJVCGJBMAlTM0mZotMoW_wsRhFrAfSWxVdRLT@mail.gmail.com>

I was talking with someone about Cloud computing and was giving my
testimony of having some fairly positive experiences deploying a
Python powered solution under Amazon Elastic Compute Cloud (EC2).
They started talking about how they were going to use hadoop. It was
not until I googled it did I realize we are talking about two
different things entirely.  It seems like "Cloud" computing needs some
disambiguation.  Then I also recall that this part deploys their
technology under .NET.  I do not even see how they could use hadoop.
It seems more likely a Java or Jython thing, correct?  I really have
no clue about hadoop but would like to learn about it. On the other
hand, I do know a growing amount about EC2 pros and cons.  Hopefully,
someone can shed some light on the distinction.

-- Brian

From dgriff1 at gmail.com  Mon Jun 28 17:29:05 2010
From: dgriff1 at gmail.com (Daniel Griffin)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:29:05 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] hadoop and python?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikmJVCGJBMAlTM0mZotMoW_wsRhFrAfSWxVdRLT@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimfETo7kcFmI1Q9fAgQiAvwoFd9LCkPPnIwKHln@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikmJVCGJBMAlTM0mZotMoW_wsRhFrAfSWxVdRLT@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikTek6U2goWWVcJ7CSAhziofAloi5WgLXmQGDhI@mail.gmail.com>

Hadoop lets you essentially do map reduce queries large datasets across
large numbers of systems. Its a way to process huge amounts of data. Since
Map/Reduce can be kind of difficult to write there are other libraries and
projects around to let you generate the Map/Reduce functions from stuff like
a SQL-like language and custom languages like pig.

There are a bunch of projects built on top of Hadoop also, but none are
really similar to EC2.



On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Brian Ray <brianhray at gmail.com> wrote:

> I was talking with someone about Cloud computing and was giving my
> testimony of having some fairly positive experiences deploying a
> Python powered solution under Amazon Elastic Compute Cloud (EC2).
> They started talking about how they were going to use hadoop. It was
> not until I googled it did I realize we are talking about two
> different things entirely.  It seems like "Cloud" computing needs some
> disambiguation.  Then I also recall that this part deploys their
> technology under .NET.  I do not even see how they could use hadoop.
> It seems more likely a Java or Jython thing, correct?  I really have
> no clue about hadoop but would like to learn about it. On the other
> hand, I do know a growing amount about EC2 pros and cons.  Hopefully,
> someone can shed some light on the distinction.
>
> -- Brian
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
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From shekay at pobox.com  Mon Jun 28 17:46:21 2010
From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:46:21 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] hadoop and python?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikmJVCGJBMAlTM0mZotMoW_wsRhFrAfSWxVdRLT@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimfETo7kcFmI1Q9fAgQiAvwoFd9LCkPPnIwKHln@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTikmJVCGJBMAlTM0mZotMoW_wsRhFrAfSWxVdRLT@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilvbuo-RDf5pj3tyoR0XR1yWE6kvRrLEMcXfsXt@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Brian Ray <brianhray at gmail.com> wrote:

> different things entirely. ?It seems like "Cloud" computing needs some
> disambiguation. ?Then I also recall that this part deploys their

I agree with that. I think this use of "cloud" seems to be about
running map/reduce queries against a cluster of nodes.

> technology under .NET. ?I do not even see how they could use hadoop.
> It seems more likely a Java or Jython thing, correct? ?I really have

It looks like there are different libraries to be able to submit
queries. One guy gave a talk about using R with hadoop running on EC2.

> no clue about hadoop but would like to learn about it. On the other
> hand, I do know a growing amount about EC2 pros and cons. ?Hopefully,
> someone can shed some light on the distinction.

You could run a hadoop cluster on EC2.



-- 
sheila

From brianherman at gmail.com  Mon Jun 28 18:18:59 2010
From: brianherman at gmail.com (Brian Herman)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:18:59 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Better than grep
Message-ID: <AANLkTikbxPuD-xIgef5pSleYtOkSGEffyXBjJLGfqjzq@mail.gmail.com>

Dear user groups,
Its in perl and can tackle large heterogeneous source trees in a single
command!
Even though it is perl it acts like the famous import this line:

Simple is better than complex.

For example one command in my local source repository of the
etherpad<http://etherpad.org> open
source project.
> ack admin



OUTPUT

trunk/etherpad/pad/debian/config
40:db_input high "etherpad/admin_password" || true

trunk/etherpad/pad/debian/postinst
38:db_get "etherpad/admin_password"
39:db_admin_password="$RET"
71: -D __db_admin_password__="$db_admin_password" \

trunk/etherpad/pad/etherpad/etc/etherpad.localdev-default.properties
5:etherpad.adminPass = password

trunk/etherpad/pad/etherpad/src/etherpad/admin/shell.js
123:  body.push(A({href: '/ep/admin/'}, html("&laquo; Admin")));

trunk/etherpad/pad/etherpad/src/etherpad/billing/team_billing.js
417:    billingAdminLink: "https://"+subDomain+".
etherpad.com/ep/admin/billing/"

trunk/etherpad/pad/etherpad/src/etherpad/control/admin/pluginmanager.js
28:import("etherpad.admin.plugins");
61:  renderHtml("admin/pluginmanager.ejs",

trunk/etherpad/pad/etherpad/src/etherpad/control/admincontrol.js
37:import("etherpad.admin.shell");
54:import("etherpad.admin.plugins");
55:import("etherpad.control.admin.pluginmanager");
69:  return (getSession().adminAuth === true);
102:    response.redirect('/ep/admin/auth');
110:    [PrefixMatcher('/ep/admin/pluginmanager/'), forward(pluginmanager)],
111:    [PrefixMatcher('/ep/admin/usagestats/'), forward(statscontrol)]
134:      P("Are you an admin?"),
142:    if (pass === appjet.config['etherpad.adminPass']) {
143:      getSession().adminAuth = true;
147:        response.redirect("/ep/admin/main");
166:  plugins.callHook("adminMenu").forEach(addMenuItem);
170:    div.push(P(A({href: "/ep/admin/setadminmode?v=false"},
174:    div.push(P(A({href: "/ep/admin/setadminmode?v=true"},
211:  body.push(A({href: '/ep/admin/'}, html("&laquo; Admin")));
255:// Note: This function is called by the PNE dashboard
(pro_admin_control.js)!  Be careful.
283:// Note: This function is called by the PNE dashboard
(pro_admin_control.js)!  Be careful.
320:// Note: This function is called by the PNE dashboard
(pro_admin_control.js)!  Be careful.
355:// Note: This function is called by the PNE dashboard
(pro_admin_control.js)!  Be careful.
667:  response.write(P(A({href: '/ep/admin/timingsreset'}, "reset all")));
703:  response.redirect('/ep/admin/timings');
1235:      tr.push(TD(A({href:
'/ep/admin/pne-tracker-lookup-keyhash?hash='+d.keyHash}, d.keyHash)));
1325:    P(FORM({action: '/ep/admin/beta-valve-toggle', method: "post"},
1344:  d.push(FORM({action: '/ep/admin/beta-invite-multisend', method:
'post'},
1359:      tr.push(TD(FORM({action: '/ep/admin/beta-invite-send', method:
'post'},
1373:  response.redirect('/ep/admin/beta-valve');
1379:  response.redirect('/ep/admin/beta-valve');
1397:  response.redirect('/ep/admin/beta-valve');
1401:  response.redirect("/ep/admin/usagestats/");
1408:function render_setadminmode() {
1411:  response.redirect("/ep/admin/");
1453:      var admins = pro_accounts.listAllDomainAdmins(domain.id);
1454:      body.push(P("Domain ", domain.subDomain, ".", request.domain, ";
admins:"));
1456:      admins.forEach(function(admin) {
1457:        p.push(LI(admin.fullName, " <", admin.email, ">"));

trunk/etherpad/pad/etherpad/src/etherpad/control/pad/pad_control.js
705:            "If you have forgotten a pad's password, contact your site
administrator.",
706:            " Site administrators can recover lost pad text through the
\"Admin\" tab.")

trunk/etherpad/pad/etherpad/src/etherpad/control/pro/account_control.js
290:// create-admin-account (eepnet only)
293:function render_create_admin_account_get() {
295:    renderFramedError("An admin account already exists on this
domain.");
298:  _renderTemplate('create-admin-account', {});
301:function render_create_admin_account_post() {

trunk/etherpad/pad/etherpad/src/etherpad/control/pro/admin/account_manager_control.js
26:import("etherpad.control.pro.admin.pro_admin_control");
83:  pro_admin_control.renderAdminPage('account-manager', {
91:  pro_admin_control.renderAdminPage('new-account', {
110:      A({href: "/ep/admin/billing/", id: "billinglink"}, "Manage
billing")));
116:    response.redirect('/ep/admin/account-manager/');
155:  response.redirect('/ep/admin/account-manager/');
165:    adminAccount: getSessionProAccount(),
177:               A({href: '/ep/admin/pne-config'}, "Configured SMTP on
this server", "?")));
190:  pro_admin_control.renderAdminPage('manage-account', {
199:    response.redirect('/ep/admin/account-manager/');
209:    _err("You cannot remove your own administrator privileges.");
223:  response.redirect('/ep/admin/account-manager/');
232:  pro_admin_control.renderAdminPage('delete-account', {
240:    response.redirect("/ep/admin/account-manager/account/"+accountId);
245:    response.redirect("/ep/admin/account-manager/account/"+accountId);
256:  response.redirect("/ep/admin/account-manager/");

trunk/etherpad/pad/etherpad/src/etherpad/control/pro/admin/license_manager_control.js
25:import("etherpad.control.pro.admin.pro_admin_control");
34:  return '/ep/admin/pne-license-manager/';
57:  pro_admin_control.renderAdminPage('pne-license-manager',
76:  pro_admin_control.renderAdminPage('pne-license-manager',

trunk/etherpad/pad/etherpad/src/etherpad/control/pro/admin/pro_admin_control.js
22:import("etherpad.control.admincontrol");
23:import("etherpad.control.pro.admin.license_manager_control");
24:import("etherpad.control.pro.admin.account_manager_control");
25:import("etherpad.control.pro.admin.pro_config_control");
26:import("etherpad.control.pro.admin.team_billing_control");
30:import("etherpad.admin.shell");
40:var _pathPrefix = '/ep/admin/';
113:  appjet.requestCache.proTopNavSelection = 'admin';
118:      return renderTemplateAsString('pro/admin/'+p+'.ejs', data);
121:  renderFramed('pro/admin/admin-template.ejs', {
134:    [DirMatcher('/ep/admin/account-manager/'),
forward(account_manager_control)],
135:    [DirMatcher('/ep/admin/pro-config/'), forward(pro_config_control)],
136:    [DirMatcher('/ep/admin/billing/'), forward(team_billing_control)],
148://  renderAdminPage('admin');
149:  response.redirect('/ep/admin/account-manager/')
154:    renderUptime: admincontrol.renderServerUptime,
155:    renderResponseCodes: admincontrol.renderResponseCodes,
156:    renderPadConnections: admincontrol.renderPadConnections,
157:    renderTransportStats: admincontrol.renderCometStats,
170:  'etherpad.adminPass',
191:  response.redirect("/ep/admin/shell");
198:  appjet.requestCache.proTopNavSelection = 'admin';

trunk/etherpad/pad/etherpad/src/etherpad/control/pro/admin/pro_config_control.js
20:import("etherpad.control.pro.admin.pro_admin_control");
40:  pro_admin_control.renderAdminPage('pro-config', {

trunk/etherpad/pad/etherpad/src/etherpad/control/pro/admin/team_billing_control.js
28:import("etherpad.control.pro.admin.pro_admin_control");
144:  pro_admin_control.renderAdminPage('manage-billing', {
192:  response.redirect('/ep/admin/billing/edit');
335:    response.redirect('/ep/admin/billing/');
341:    response.redirect('/ep/admin/billing')
394:    response.redirect("/ep/admin/billing/");
430:    pro_admin_control.renderAdminPage('single-invoice', {
440:    pro_admin_control.renderAdminPage('billing-invoices', {

trunk/etherpad/pad/etherpad/src/etherpad/control/pro/pro_main_control.js
35:import("etherpad.control.pro.admin.pro_admin_control");
36:import("etherpad.control.pro.admin.account_manager_control");
46:    [DirMatcher('/ep/admin/'), forward(pro_admin_control)],
141:  var adminList = pro_accounts.listAllDomainAdmins();
146:    adminList: adminList

trunk/etherpad/pad/etherpad/src/etherpad/control/pro_signup_control.js
31:import("etherpad.control.pro.admin.account_manager_control");

trunk/etherpad/pad/etherpad/src/etherpad/control/static_control.js
22:import("etherpad.admin.plugins");

trunk/etherpad/pad/etherpad/src/etherpad/control/statscontrol.js
755://   body.push(A({id: "backtoadmin", href: "/ep/admin/"},
html("&laquo;"), " back to admin"));
772://   helpers.includeCss('admin/admin-stats.css');
804:      links.push(toHTML(A({href:
"/ep/admin/usagestats/data?statName="+statName}, statName)));
879://         A({href:
'/ep/admin/usagestats/graph?size=1080x420&statName='+statName},
880://                IMG({src:
'/ep/admin/usagestats/graph?size=400x200&statName='+statName,
885://                     href:
'/ep/admin/usagestats/data?statName='+statName}, "(data)")))
962://     body.push(P(A({href: "/ep/admin/usagestats/?cat="+catname},
catname)));
1131://     div.push(A({href:
'/ep/admin/usagestats/graph?size=1080x420&statName='+statName},
1132://                IMG({src:
'/ep/admin/usagestats/graph?size=400x200&statName='+statName,
1137://                     href:
'/ep/admin/usagestats/data?statName='+statName}, "(data)")));
1184://   response.redirect('/ep/admin/usagestats');

trunk/etherpad/pad/etherpad/src/etherpad/control/store/storecontrol.js
28:import("etherpad.control.pro.admin.team_billing_control");

trunk/etherpad/pad/etherpad/src/etherpad/importexport/importexport.js
144:    return "EtherPad is not configured to import or export formats other
than <strong>txt</strong> and <strong>html</strong>. Please contact your
system administrator for details.";

trunk/etherpad/pad/etherpad/src/etherpad/pad/model.js
33:import("etherpad.admin.plugins");

trunk/etherpad/pad/etherpad/src/etherpad/pad/pad_security.js
114:  if (!isProDomainRequest() && (request.path ==
"/ep/admin/padinspector")) {
222:  if (stringutils.startsWith(request.path, "/ep/admin/recover-padtext"))
{

trunk/etherpad/pad/etherpad/src/etherpad/pne/pne_utils.js
126:  'etherpad.adminPass',

trunk/etherpad/pad/etherpad/src/etherpad/pro/pro_accounts.js
129:  _withCache('does-domain-admin-exist', function(cache) {
143:               admin: isAdmin});
206:              admin: account.isAdmin,
214:  return _withCache('does-domain-admin-exist', function(cache) {
217:      var admins = sqlobj.selectMulti('pro_accounts', {domainId:
domainId, isAdmin: true}, {});
218:      cache[domainId] = (admins.length > 0);
348:    return "LDAP not yet configured. Please contact your system
admininstrator.";
353:    return getLDAP().error + " Please contact your system
administrator.";
545:  _withCache('does-domain-admin-exist', function(cache) {

trunk/etherpad/pad/etherpad/src/etherpad/pro/pro_ldap_support.js
196://   "principal"    : "uid=admin,ou=system",

trunk/etherpad/pad/etherpad/src/etherpad/pro/pro_pad_db.js
89:// Not a normal part of the UI.  This is only called from admin
interface,
110:    return; // etherpad admins

trunk/etherpad/pad/etherpad/src/etherpad/pro/pro_padlist.js
180:            // excludes etherpad admin user

trunk/etherpad/pad/etherpad/src/etherpad/pro/pro_quotas.js
106:    notice.push("  ", A({href: "/ep/admin/billing/"}, "Manage billing"),
".");
110:      A({href: "/ep/payment-required"}, "contact a site administrator"),
".");
132:       startsWith(request.path, "/ep/admin/") ||

trunk/etherpad/pad/etherpad/src/etherpad/pro/pro_utils.js
99:  // if it's PNE and there is no admin account, allow them to create an
admin
107:    if (request.path != '/ep/account/create-admin-account') {
109:      response.redirect('/ep/account/create-admin-account');

trunk/etherpad/pad/etherpad/src/etherpad/utils.js
38:import("etherpad.admin.plugins");

trunk/etherpad/pad/etherpad/src/main.js
37:import("etherpad.control.admincontrol");
47:import("etherpad.control.pro.admin.license_manager_control");
71:import("etherpad.admin.plugins");
317:    '/ep/admin',      // pro and main site
393:    [DirMatcher('/ep/admin/'), forward(admincontrol)],

trunk/etherpad/pad/etherpad/src/static/css/admin/admin-stats.css
1:#backtoadmin {

trunk/etherpad/pad/etherpad/src/static/css/pro/pro-admin.css
2:/* admin leftnav */
5:#admin-layout-table {
9:#admin-layout-table td {
12:#admin-leftnav {
20:#admin-leftnav .leftnav-title {
24:#admin-leftnav ul {
29:#admin-leftnav ul ul {
33:#admin-leftnav li {
39:#admin-leftnav li a {
45:#admin-leftnav li a:hover {
50:#admin-leftnav li.selected a {
57:/* admin content area */
60:#admin-right {
64:#admin-right h3 {
72:#admin-right h3.top {

trunk/etherpad/pad/etherpad/src/static/js/pad_impexp.js
152:          " system administrator for details.");

trunk/etherpad/pad/infrastructure/ace/www/domline.js
2:// %APPJET%: import("etherpad.admin.plugins");

trunk/etherpad/pad/infrastructure/ace/www/linestylefilter.js
3:// %APPJET%: import("etherpad.admin.plugins");

trunk/etherpad/pad/infrastructure/framework-src/modules/dispatch.js
38:// Like PrefixMatcher, but makes trailing '/' optional, as in /ep/admin
or /ep/admin/.

Thanks,
Brian Herman

brianjherman.com
Research Assistant
University Of Illinois at Chicago
brianherman at acm.org
Consultant
University of Chicago
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From shekay at pobox.com  Mon Jun 28 18:46:07 2010
From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:46:07 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] [chicago-androids] Better than grep
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikbxPuD-xIgef5pSleYtOkSGEffyXBjJLGfqjzq@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikbxPuD-xIgef5pSleYtOkSGEffyXBjJLGfqjzq@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimaFkinKtbS7_8HUlS7gjWSgCITsEydnG7yARRp@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Brian Herman <brianherman at gmail.com> wrote:

> For example one command in my local source repository of the?etherpad?open
> source project.

geez, don't use such a big example.

>> ack admin

I use ack a lot. I love it.

note, in ubuntu the package is called ack-grep, but in centos (and I
don't know what else) it is ack.

http://betterthangrep.com/

-- 
sheila

From cwebber at dustycloud.org  Mon Jun 28 18:52:45 2010
From: cwebber at dustycloud.org (Christopher Allan Webber)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:52:45 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] hadoop and python?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikmJVCGJBMAlTM0mZotMoW_wsRhFrAfSWxVdRLT@mail.gmail.com>
	(Brian Ray's message of "Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:21:44 -0500")
References: <AANLkTimfETo7kcFmI1Q9fAgQiAvwoFd9LCkPPnIwKHln@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikmJVCGJBMAlTM0mZotMoW_wsRhFrAfSWxVdRLT@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <87wrtjxfoi.fsf@dustycloud.org>

Brian Ray <brianhray at gmail.com> writes:

> It seems like "Cloud" computing needs some disambiguation.

Understatement of the year :)

Cloud computing is the computer industry's current buzzword baby.  Like
all buzzwords it really doesn't mean anything because everyone's
throwing their particular favorite issue/service into that bucket, to
the point where it's overflowing with only tangentally related terms.
Cloud computing more so than most buzzword buckets, even.

I really think it's a good idea if people refer to the specific
technology concepts they're advocating rather than ambiguous catch-alls.
Non-relational databases, mapreduce, on-the-fly virtualization, software
as a service... these are all very different ideas, and we're all much
better off if people actually say what they mean.

 - cwebb

From johnstoner2 at gmail.com  Mon Jun 28 19:54:29 2010
From: johnstoner2 at gmail.com (John Stoner)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 12:54:29 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] hadoop and python?
In-Reply-To: <87wrtjxfoi.fsf@dustycloud.org>
References: <AANLkTimfETo7kcFmI1Q9fAgQiAvwoFd9LCkPPnIwKHln@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikmJVCGJBMAlTM0mZotMoW_wsRhFrAfSWxVdRLT@mail.gmail.com>
	<87wrtjxfoi.fsf@dustycloud.org>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim0DF9_0HrIlD-RYjfl7Qa0iZfZCeFX4cdlKPD8@mail.gmail.com>

Hadoop is built in Java but it seems to have shell-based interfaces probably
useful across a variety of platforms. From the Hadoop Streaming page:

http://wiki.apache.org/hadoop/HadoopStreaming

Using the streaming system you can develop working hadoop jobs with *
extremely* limited knowldge of Java. At it's simplest your development task
is to write two shell scripts that work well together, let's call them *
shellMapper.sh* and *shellReducer.sh*. On a machine that doesn't even have
hadoop installed you can get first drafts of these working by writing them
to work in this way:

cat someInputFile | shellMapper.sh | shellReducer.sh > someOutputFile

With streaming, Hadoop basically becomes a system for making pipes from
shell-scripting work (with some fudging) on a cluster. There's a strong
logical correspondence between the unix shell scripting environment and
hadoop streaming jobs....



On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Christopher Allan Webber <
cwebber at dustycloud.org> wrote:

> Brian Ray <brianhray at gmail.com> writes:
>
> > It seems like "Cloud" computing needs some disambiguation.
>
> Understatement of the year :)
>
> Cloud computing is the computer industry's current buzzword baby.  Like
> all buzzwords it really doesn't mean anything because everyone's
> throwing their particular favorite issue/service into that bucket, to
> the point where it's overflowing with only tangentally related terms.
> Cloud computing more so than most buzzword buckets, even.
>
> I really think it's a good idea if people refer to the specific
> technology concepts they're advocating rather than ambiguous catch-alls.
> Non-relational databases, mapreduce, on-the-fly virtualization, software
> as a service... these are all very different ideas, and we're all much
> better off if people actually say what they mean.
>
>  - cwebb
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From jason at panopta.com  Mon Jun 28 21:24:20 2010
From: jason at panopta.com (Jason Abate)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:24:20 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] hadoop and python?
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Has anyone used Dumbo <http://klbostee.github.com/dumbo/>?  We're 
starting to experiment with it as a cleaner, more Pythonic way to write 
Hadoop jobs rather than the raw streaming interface.  The streaming 
interface is simple to get started with, but seems to have some 
limitations as you start writing more involved M/R jobs.

Would love to hear any thoughts on writing real systems with Dumbo, 
either positive or negative.

-jason



On 06/28/2010 12:54 PM, John Stoner wrote:
> Hadoop is built in Java but it seems to have shell-based interfaces 
> probably useful across a variety of platforms. From the Hadoop 
> Streaming page:
>
> http://wiki.apache.org/hadoop/HadoopStreaming
>
> Using the streaming system you can develop working hadoop jobs with 
> /extremely/ limited knowldge of Java. At it's simplest your 
> development task is to write two shell scripts that work well 
> together, let's call them *shellMapper.sh* and *shellReducer.sh*. On a 
> machine that doesn't even have hadoop installed you can get first 
> drafts of these working by writing them to work in this way:
>
> cat someInputFile | shellMapper.sh | shellReducer.sh>  someOutputFile
>
> With streaming, Hadoop basically becomes a system for making pipes 
> from shell-scripting work (with some fudging) on a cluster. There's a 
> strong logical correspondence between the unix shell scripting 
> environment and hadoop streaming jobs....
>
>    
>
> On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Christopher Allan Webber 
> <cwebber at dustycloud.org <mailto:cwebber at dustycloud.org>> wrote:
>
>     Brian Ray <brianhray at gmail.com <mailto:brianhray at gmail.com>> writes:
>
>     > It seems like "Cloud" computing needs some disambiguation.
>
>     Understatement of the year :)
>
>     Cloud computing is the computer industry's current buzzword baby.
>      Like
>     all buzzwords it really doesn't mean anything because everyone's
>     throwing their particular favorite issue/service into that bucket, to
>     the point where it's overflowing with only tangentally related terms.
>     Cloud computing more so than most buzzword buckets, even.
>
>     I really think it's a good idea if people refer to the specific
>     technology concepts they're advocating rather than ambiguous
>     catch-alls.
>     Non-relational databases, mapreduce, on-the-fly virtualization,
>     software
>     as a service... these are all very different ideas, and we're all much
>     better off if people actually say what they mean.
>
>      - cwebb
>     _______________________________________________
>     Chicago mailing list
>     Chicago at python.org <mailto:Chicago at python.org>
>     http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> blogs:
> http://www.generosity.org/stoner/
> http://boogiepants.typepad.com/
> 'In knowledge is power; in  wisdom, humility.'
>
>
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> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
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From brianherman at gmail.com  Mon Jun 28 21:37:17 2010
From: brianherman at gmail.com (Brian Herman)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:37:17 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] hadoop and python?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim0DF9_0HrIlD-RYjfl7Qa0iZfZCeFX4cdlKPD8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimfETo7kcFmI1Q9fAgQiAvwoFd9LCkPPnIwKHln@mail.gmail.com> 
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Plus hadoop's mascot could crush the python mascot.
[image: Hadoop-logo.jpg]
It does look like it is having a funny walk though....
But in all seriousness hadoop is a great apache project.
My brother Josh at University of Illinois at Chicago has setup hadoop
instances for research projects.
That is why you saw that blank email.
One warning do not under any circumstances waste your time installing hadoop
on redhat without a package.
That will just be annoying. And waste your time.

Elephants never forget....
Snakes just bite elephants and turn them into spam..
MMMMMM spammmmm.

Thanks,
Brian Herman

brianjherman.com
Research Assistant
University Of Illinois at Chicago
brianherman at acm.org
Consultant
University of Chicago


On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 12:54 PM, John Stoner <johnstoner2 at gmail.com> wrote:

> platforms. From the Hadoop
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From matt at mattokeefe.com  Tue Jun 29 05:03:46 2010
From: matt at mattokeefe.com (Matthew O'Keefe)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 22:03:46 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] hadoop and python
Message-ID: <AANLkTimjSQf0PxCWEwVBovj6lLfbzMHnv6uvkZDdExEZ@mail.gmail.com>

You might want to check out http://discoproject.org/. It is erlang under the
hood but you write the map and reduce functions in python. We are evaluating
it at Morningstar.

-Matt
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From jdugan at x1024.net  Tue Jun 29 18:31:53 2010
From: jdugan at x1024.net (Jon Dugan)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 11:31:53 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] hadoop and python
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On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Matthew O'Keefe <matt at mattokeefe.com> wrote:
> You might want to check out http://discoproject.org/. It is erlang under the
> hood but you write the map and reduce functions in python. We are evaluating
> it at Morningstar.

I would definitely be interested in hearing more about people's
experiences with Disco (and Hadoop) in Python.  It's something I've
been on the verge of exploring at work for some time now.

Cheers,

Jon