[Chicago] Python and web

[Jonathan Hayward]

On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Jonathan Hayward <
christos.jonathan.hayward at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Massimo Di Pierro <
> mdipierro at cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jonathan,
>>
>> web2py is doing well.
>>
>> We we have 1700 users on the mailing list and we have added lots of
>> features over time. We have 2-10 commits every day. Almost all of them are
>> about new features. We always managed to do so without breaking backward
>> compatibility. We are now at version 1.76.5.
>>
>> The big discussion on our mailing list these days is plugins. We have a
>> plugin system (mostly a web interface to package a subset of an app and
>> install a subset of a app). We also have a system of "components" i.e.
>> sub-model-view-controllers that work as autonomous entities and can be
>> embedded in pages via ajax. plugins usually define components (like
>> comments, tagging, etc) but can be more general that that.
>>
>> Some people are asking for new/different features. Some people want a
>> strict set of rules to make sure plugins can "plug and play" without any
>> tweaking (I agree with that). Some people want to re-factor the current
>> system and not to allow any application subset to be a plugin only
>> components. This would provide more isolation of plugins but limit what they
>> can do. Other people want web2py level plugins as opposed to application
>> level plugins. This would make plugins reusable across multiple apps but
>> would make apps not portable and introduce dependencies.
>>
>> We are moving to a new web server (Rocket).
>>
>> We have completely re-factored the Database Abstraction Layer so that it
>> is still backward compatible but much more modular and the code is cleaner.
>> It will be easy to build adapters for the various NoDBs out there. It is in
>> trunk but has not replaced the current DAL yet because needs more tests.
>>
>> What's up with you?
>>
>>
> Right now I've been jobhunting and I may be writing a technical book soon.
> I've been continuing to write for my website. Things have been a bit quiet.
>

P.S. My website is at http://JonathansCorner.com/ , with an open source
section at http://JonathansCorner.com/open-source/ . The most recent posting
to the website as a whole is an akathist hymn to St. Philaret, at
http://JonathansCorner.com/philaret/ .


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>
>> Massimo
>>
>>
>> On Mar 13, 2010, at 5:48 PM, Jonathan Hayward wrote:
>>
>> Good to hear from you! How are you? How is web2py progressing?
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Massimo Di Pierro <
>> mdipierro at cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> You said: "Jonathan Hayward, a Senior Web Developer who cares deeply
>>> about usability"
>>> so I thought I should mention I use web2py. ;-)
>>>
>>> Massimo
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 13, 2010, at 3:38 PM, Jonathan Hayward wrote:
>>>
>>> Thank you all.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Atul Varma <varmaa at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I use bare WSGI (PEP 333) to implement REST APIs which are used by JS
>>>> code running in browsers.
>>>>
>>>> - Atul
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Carl Karsten <cfkarsten at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Jonathan Hayward
>>>>> <christos.jonathan.hayward at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> > Could I ask a brief and informal survey:
>>>>> > For those of you who are using Python for the web, what are you
>>>>> using?
>>>>> > Python and bare CGI? Python and a homebrew framework? Python and
>>>>> Django?
>>>>> > Python and TurboGears? Python and something else?
>>>>>
>>>>> Django.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am looking into using another layer on top of Django:
>>>>> http://www.pinaxproject.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> In the next month or so I will likely redo one of my sites using it.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Carl K
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>> usability
>> → www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanhayward • jonathan.hayward at pobox.com
>> → Ajax, CGI, CMS, CSS, HTML, IA, JSON, JavaScript, LAMP, Linux, Perl, PHP,
>> Python, SQL, UI, Unix, Usability, UX, XHTML, XML
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>> and websites a joy to use
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> --
> → Jonathan Hayward, a Senior Web Developer who cares deeply about usability
> → www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanhayward • jonathan.hayward at pobox.com
> → Ajax, CGI, CMS, CSS, HTML, IA, JSON, JavaScript, LAMP, Linux, Perl, PHP,
> Python, SQL, UI, Unix, Usability, UX, XHTML, XML
> → With a good interest in the human side of computing and making software
> and websites a joy to use
>



-- 
→ Jonathan Hayward, a Senior Web Developer who cares deeply about usability
→ www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanhayward • jonathan.hayward at pobox.com
→ Ajax, CGI, CMS, CSS, HTML, IA, JSON, JavaScript, LAMP, Linux, Perl, PHP,
Python, SQL, UI, Unix, Usability, UX, XHTML, XML
→ With a good interest in the human side of computing and making software
and websites a joy to use
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