[Chicago] Erlang to Python

[Joshua Herman]

Brother don't feel bad. The best trolls are ones that don't even seem
like trolls.

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On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 11:20 PM, Brian Herman <bherma3 at uic.edu> wrote:
> Sorry, guys I didn't know this was a massive troll.
>
> On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Daniel Griffin <dgriff1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> It seems like they could have rewritten it better in Erlang. It also seems
>> like if they ever want to scale past 1 process running on one core they are
>> going to have to figure out how to share those global stateful data
>> structures. Language only matters so much.
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Garrett Smith <g at rre.tt> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 11:19 PM, Brian Herman <bherma3 at uic.edu> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > http://code.mixpanel.com/2011/08/05/how-and-why-we-switched-from-erlang-to-python/
>>>
>>> I'm looking forward to the next post: "Why We Stopped Asking Interns
>>> to Rewrite Performance Critical Systems".
>>>
>>> >From what I can see, the only reason for the "switch" is that no one
>>> there knew Erlang.
>>>
>>> But that's hardly a very fun assessment. So, at the intern's expense...
>>>
>>> "This server needs to scale, which for Python means using asynchronous
>>> I/O"
>>>
>>> Of course this is utter nonsense. But oh, the fine puzzles that derive
>>> from it!
>>>
>>> "string processing is very frequently the limiting factor in networked
>>> systems because you have to serialize data every time you want to
>>> transfer it"
>>>
>>> That, and waiting for *really* slow things like disks and networks.
>>> But having blazing fast string processing is a fun problem to solve.
>>> For interns.
>>>
>>> Not that anyone should care because "string processing" is typically
>>> not a bottleneck, but Erlang has a C-based JSON library that's just as
>>> fast as the other C-based JSON libraries.
>>>
>>> "Finally, we use a few stateful, global data structures..."
>>>
>>> I read this a couple time before concluding it was actually a troll
>>> script from one of the talking bear videos.
>>>
>>> "I’ve learned a lot about how to scale a real service in the couple of
>>> weeks I’ve been here."
>>>
>>> Oh intern, would that I could return to my own youth -- rife with
>>> sweet, blissful ignorance.
>>>
>>> Garrett
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