From christopherbartolone at gmail.com Tue Mar 1 18:54:17 2011 From: christopherbartolone at gmail.com (Christopher Bartolone) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 11:54:17 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Need Some Help Developing a Web Application Message-ID: All fellow developers, A friend and I are in the process of developing a web application using Python, Django, and Jinja2. We need a few hands that can pitch in part time or as a side job for a percent of ownership. The application is essentially a location based event finder. There is a lot more behind it which we'd like to discuss with you in person. The great thing about our project is that advertising will also be location based and has the capability of becoming very profitable due to the project's large target audience. If you are interested in learning more, please reply or give me a call. I'll set up a meeting to discuss this with me and my partner. 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URL: From brianhray at gmail.com Wed Mar 2 19:23:15 2011 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 12:23:15 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Chipy Meeting next Thursday Message-ID: Looking for a highly-technical advanced Python talk for next week. Let me know if you think you can pull it off. The meeting will be on Thursday and so far we have the spothero presentation. So something highly technical, scientific, advanced... would go well here. Any offers? I think one year we did a anti-pycon meeting :P We have reserved the upstairs at Sully's House for this month's meeting. I am sure many of you who requested this will be happy. On a side note, for the following week at the North Meeting Only we have one presentation on ?MQ \zeromq\: ? The socket library that acts as a concurrency framework. Thanks, brian -- Brian Ray From lifestyleignition at gmail.com Wed Mar 2 19:55:57 2011 From: lifestyleignition at gmail.com (Mark Lawrence) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 12:55:57 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Chipy Meeting next Thursday In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Looking forward to seeing you all there! Mark On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > Looking for a highly-technical advanced Python talk for next week. Let > me know if you think you can pull it off. > > The meeting will be on Thursday and so far we have the spothero > presentation. So something highly technical, scientific, advanced... > would go well here. Any offers? I think one year we did a anti-pycon > meeting :P > > We have reserved the upstairs at Sully's House for this month's > meeting. I am sure many of you who requested this will be happy. > > On a side note, for the following week at the North Meeting Only we > have one presentation on ?MQ \zeromq\: ? The socket library that acts > as a concurrency framework. > > > Thanks, brian > > > > -- > > Brian Ray > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- Mark Lawrence http://www.lifestyleignition.com Co-Founder SpotHero Inc. http://spothero.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kenschutte at gmail.com Wed Mar 2 20:59:02 2011 From: kenschutte at gmail.com (Ken Schutte) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 13:59:02 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Chipy Meeting next Thursday In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: A while ago (http://mail.python.org/pipermail/chicago/2010-December/007331.html) I said I could maybe say something about audio processing, numpy, spectral analysis, etc. I could try to do something along those lines for next week. Ken On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > Looking for a highly-technical advanced Python talk for next week. Let > me know if you think you can pull it off. > > The meeting will be on Thursday and so far we have the spothero > presentation. So something highly technical, scientific, advanced... > would go well here. Any offers? ?I think one year we did a anti-pycon > meeting :P > > We have reserved the upstairs at Sully's House for this month's > meeting. I am sure many of you who requested this will be happy. > > On a side note, for the following week at the North Meeting Only we > have one presentation on ?MQ \zeromq\: ? The socket library that acts > as a concurrency framework. > > > Thanks, brian > > > > -- > > Brian Ray > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > From dpmcgee at gmail.com Wed Mar 2 21:05:37 2011 From: dpmcgee at gmail.com (Dan McGee) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 14:05:37 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Chipy Meeting next Thursday In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Ken Schutte wrote: > A while ago (http://mail.python.org/pipermail/chicago/2010-December/007331.html) > I said I could maybe say something about audio processing, numpy, > spectral analysis, etc. ?I could try to do something along those lines > for next week. I'd give this a +1, I think it would be very interesting. I dabbled (rather unsuccessfully) a few weeks ago and I'd love to see someone's work that actually knows what they are doing. -Dan From carl at personnelware.com Wed Mar 2 21:08:51 2011 From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 14:08:51 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Chipy Meeting next Thursday In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Dan McGee wrote: > On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Ken Schutte wrote: >> A while ago (http://mail.python.org/pipermail/chicago/2010-December/007331.html) >> I said I could maybe say something about audio processing, numpy, >> spectral analysis, etc. ?I could try to do something along those lines >> for next week. > > I'd give this a +1, I think it would be very interesting. I dabbled > (rather unsuccessfully) a few weeks ago and I'd love to see someone's > work that actually knows what they are doing. yeah, me too... grumble... -- Carl K From dgriff1 at gmail.com Wed Mar 2 21:13:20 2011 From: dgriff1 at gmail.com (Daniel Griffin) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 14:13:20 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Chipy Meeting next Thursday In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I am going to do 0MQ for Chipy North(the cooler chipy). It's a good motivator to learn more about MQ's and the amazing magic that 0MQ is supposed to contain. On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: > On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Dan McGee wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Ken Schutte > wrote: > >> A while ago ( > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/chicago/2010-December/007331.html) > >> I said I could maybe say something about audio processing, numpy, > >> spectral analysis, etc. I could try to do something along those lines > >> for next week. > > > > I'd give this a +1, I think it would be very interesting. I dabbled > > (rather unsuccessfully) a few weeks ago and I'd love to see someone's > > work that actually knows what they are doing. > > yeah, me too... grumble... > > -- > Carl K > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jsudlow at gmail.com Thu Mar 3 02:36:45 2011 From: jsudlow at gmail.com (Jon Sudlow) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 19:36:45 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Windows end-of-line and Python In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I had to grapple with this very issue when parsing a 3d data set. I just used a regex and cut the \n and the \rs out of it so it wouldn't get confused. Show your friend some data structures in python, that will change their mind. As to whether its a bug or not Im not sure. -Jon On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 6:22 PM, Jonathan Hayward < jonathan.hayward at pobox.com> wrote: > Today I was visiting with a friend and installing OSS on his computer. On > an x86_64 Windows 7 box, he had already installed Apache, and I installed > Python with a python.org installer. I opened up Notepad and created a > "Hello world" Python CGI script, put it in the cgi-bin directory, saw it > crash, and looked in the logs. > > The log message complained that I had tried to "import cgi\r": in other > words, Python on Windows was choking because the file I made in Notepad used > "\r\n" for line breaks. (The equivalent script made with vim, and presumably > "\n" for line breaks worked predictably.) > > Isn't it a defect/design flaw for Python on Windows to choke on > "\r\n"-separated files? Should I file a bug, or is this a side effect of > decisions that are now non-negotiable? (I wasn't thrilled, after trying to > sell my friend on the idea that Python is a good language with a low barrier > to entry, to find that it choked on a Notepad-edited "Hello world!" CGI > script.) > > -- > ? Jonathan Hayward, Author, Django JavaScript Integration: AJAX and jQuery > > ? Author Bio ? LinkedIn > Profile ? > jonathan.hayward at pobox.com > ? Ajax, CGI, CMS, CSS, Django, HTML, IA, JSON, JavaScript, LAMP, Linux, > MVC, Perl, PHP, Python, SQL, UI, Unix, Usability, UX, XHTML, XML > ? With a good interest in the human side of computing and making websites a > joy to use > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fawad at fawad.net Thu Mar 3 03:21:05 2011 From: fawad at fawad.net (Fawad Halim) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 20:21:05 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Windows end-of-line and Python In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It seems extremely unlikely that Python would not like \r\n in source code. Have you tried reducing the problem to a simple case? The Python Language Reference says that any of the platform line separators can be used for newlines. -fawad On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 6:22 PM, Jonathan Hayward < jonathan.hayward at pobox.com> wrote: > Today I was visiting with a friend and installing OSS on his computer. On > an x86_64 Windows 7 box, he had already installed Apache, and I installed > Python with a python.org installer. I opened up Notepad and created a > "Hello world" Python CGI script, put it in the cgi-bin directory, saw it > crash, and looked in the logs. > > The log message complained that I had tried to "import cgi\r": in other > words, Python on Windows was choking because the file I made in Notepad used > "\r\n" for line breaks. (The equivalent script made with vim, and presumably > "\n" for line breaks worked predictably.) > > Isn't it a defect/design flaw for Python on Windows to choke on > "\r\n"-separated files? Should I file a bug, or is this a side effect of > decisions that are now non-negotiable? (I wasn't thrilled, after trying to > sell my friend on the idea that Python is a good language with a low barrier > to entry, to find that it choked on a Notepad-edited "Hello world!" CGI > script.) > > -- > ? Jonathan Hayward, Author, Django JavaScript Integration: AJAX and jQuery > > ? Author Bio ? LinkedIn > Profile ? > jonathan.hayward at pobox.com > ? Ajax, CGI, CMS, CSS, Django, HTML, IA, JSON, JavaScript, LAMP, Linux, > MVC, Perl, PHP, Python, SQL, UI, Unix, Usability, UX, XHTML, XML > ? With a good interest in the human side of computing and making websites a > joy to use > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ken.wasetis at contextualcorp.com Thu Mar 3 04:10:21 2011 From: ken.wasetis at contextualcorp.com (Ken Wasetis [Contextual Corp.]) Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 21:10:21 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Windows end-of-line and Python In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D6F069D.4010406@contextualcorp.com> When I have a client that runs python on Windows, the de facto, FOSS Python IDE that I use is the IDLE editor that either gets installed by the Windows installer (.exe) that you downloaded from python.org (check the Start menu) or that comes from installing the pywin32 package - can't recall which, but it's more than a Notepad replacement, if you haven't used it. It has pythonic syntax highlighting and makes debugging your python script in a shell window that it can also open, a very trivial thing to do. 4 stars. This is what I'd have your client get used to using on Windows, if they have no interest in other, more robust editors. Does the trick. Ken On 2/19/11 6:22 PM, Jonathan Hayward wrote: > Today I was visiting with a friend and installing OSS on his computer. > On an x86_64 Windows 7 box, he had already installed Apache, and I > installed Python with a python.org installer. I > opened up Notepad and created a "Hello world" Python CGI script, put > it in the cgi-bin directory, saw it crash, and looked in the logs. > > The log message complained that I had tried to "import cgi\r": in > other words, Python on Windows was choking because the file I made in > Notepad used "\r\n" for line breaks. (The equivalent script made with > vim, and presumably "\n" for line breaks worked predictably.) > > Isn't it a defect/design flaw for Python on Windows to choke on > "\r\n"-separated files? Should I file a bug, or is this a side effect > of decisions that are now non-negotiable? (I wasn't thrilled, after > trying to sell my friend on the idea that Python is a good language > with a low barrier to entry, to find that it choked on a > Notepad-edited "Hello world!" CGI script.) > > -- > ? Jonathan Hayward, Author, Django JavaScript Integration: AJAX and jQuery > > > ? Author Bio > ? > LinkedIn Profile ? > jonathan.hayward at pobox.com > ? Ajax, CGI, CMS, CSS, Django, HTML, IA, JSON, JavaScript, LAMP, > Linux, MVC, Perl, PHP, Python, SQL, UI, Unix, Usability, UX, XHTML, XML > ? With a good interest in the human side of computing and making > websites a joy to use > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It > has pythonic syntax highlighting and makes debugging your python script in a > shell window that it can also open, a very trivial thing to do. 4 stars. > This is what I'd have your client get used to using on Windows, if they have > no interest in other, more robust editors. Does the trick. > > Ken > IDLE comes with the standard python.org distribution. PythonWin comes from the pywin32 project and it's also packaged with the ActiveState distribution. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From malcolm.newsome at gmail.com Sat Mar 5 23:34:17 2011 From: malcolm.newsome at gmail.com (Malcolm Newsome) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 16:34:17 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] How could I make this better? Message-ID: <002e01cbdb85$778be020$66a3a060$@gmail.com> Hey all. I wrote this simple program for my children today. I'm wondering if there was a more efficient alternative to the way I wrote it. # guess.py # a simple number guessing game import random def main(): print "Do you think you're smarter than me?" print "I guess we'll see!" print "I'm thinking of a number between 0 - 100. Can you guess what it is?" print guess = input("Type a number between 0 - 100: ") random_num = random.randrange(0,100,1) if guess == random_num: print "You got it! I guess you are smarter than me!" elif guess < random_num: # user gets second chance if number is too low guess_iflow = input("You were too low. Type another number: ") if guess_iflow == random_num: print """That was right! I guess you're smarter than me... even though it took you another try!""" else: print "Nope! I'm smarter than you!" print "I was thinking of the number: ", random_num elif guess > random_num: # user gets second chance if number is too high guess_ifhigh = input("You were too high. Type another number: ") if guess_ifhigh == random_num: print """That was right! I guess you're smarter than me... even though it took you another try!""" else: print "Nope! I'm smarter than you!" print "I was thinking of the number: ", random_num else: print "Nope! I'm smarter than you!" print "I was thinking of the number: ", random_num main() -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kirby.urner at gmail.com Sun Mar 6 00:28:10 2011 From: kirby.urner at gmail.com (kirby urner) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 17:28:10 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] How could I make this better? In-Reply-To: <002e01cbdb85$778be020$66a3a060$@gmail.com> References: <002e01cbdb85$778be020$66a3a060$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Is you goal to share the source code with your kids? Dunno how young, but you might wanna make the if / elif / else stuff less deep. Just ifs, without elifs or elses might be cool. I'd probably make it a while True loop (with break conditions). A blank guess might mean "I give up" (nice to have an escape route). Chances of guessing the number in one or two guesses is about nil. I'd think the proposer of this puzzle wan't very smart if I had to play such a game. :) Note that in Python 3, input returns a string, not an integer (so convert -- but you can catch a blank first, as distinct from 0). If your goal is to teach Python to your kids, I'd recommend Python 3. Kirby On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Malcolm Newsome wrote: > Hey all. I wrote this simple program for my children today. I?m wondering > if there was a more efficient alternative to the way I wrote it. > > > > > > > > # guess.py > > # a simple number guessing game > > > > import random > > > > def main(): > > > > print "Do you think you're smarter than me?" > > print "I guess we'll see!" > > print "I'm thinking of a number between 0 - 100. Can you guess what it > is?" > > print > > > > guess = input("Type a number between 0 - 100: ") > > > > random_num = random.randrange(0,100,1) > > > > if guess == random_num: > > print "You got it! I guess you are smarter than me!" > > > > elif guess < random_num: > > # user gets second chance if number is too low > > guess_iflow = input("You were too low. Type another number: ") > > > > if guess_iflow == random_num: > > print """That was right! I guess you're smarter than me... > > even though it took you another try!""" > > > > else: > > print "Nope! I'm smarter than you!" > > print "I was thinking of the number: ", random_num > > > > elif guess > random_num: > > # user gets second chance if number is too high > > guess_ifhigh = input("You were too high. Type another number: > ") > > > > if guess_ifhigh == random_num: > > print """That was right! I guess you're smarter than me... > > even though it took you another try!""" > > > > else: > > print "Nope! I'm smarter than you!" > > print "I was thinking of the number: ", random_num > > > > else: > > print "Nope! I'm smarter than you!" > > print "I was thinking of the number: ", random_num > > > > main() > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jmwebstuff at yahoo.com Sun Mar 6 01:38:06 2011 From: jmwebstuff at yahoo.com (Julie Bell) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 16:38:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Chicago] How could I make this better? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <322778.98984.qm@web130123.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I am not a true python programmer. But I'd put the repeating messages into a subroutine. 1. To save on code space 2.? To be able to change message in one place 3. Easier Readability of program The other thing I would do is put it into a loop the tries. ?#simple number guessing game import random def correct(): ??????? print "You got it! I guess you are smarter than me!" ??? return def correct2(): ??????? print """That was right! I guess you're smarter than me... ??????? even though it took you another try!""" ??? return def wrong(random_num): ??????? print "Nope! I'm smarter than you!" ??????? print "I was thinking of the number: ", random_num ??? return def main(): ??? print "Do you think you're smarter than me?" ??? print "I guess we'll see!" ??? print "I'm thinking of a number between 0 - 100.? Can you guess what it is?" ??? print ??? guess = input("Type a number between 0 - 100: ") ??? random_num = random.randrange(0,100,1) ??? if guess == random_num: ??? correct() ? ??? elif guess < random_num: ??????????? # user gets second chance if number is too low ??????????? guess_iflow = input("You were too low. Type another number: ") ??????????? if guess_iflow == random_num: ??? ??? correct2() ??????????? else: ??? ??? wrong(random_num) ??? elif guess > random_num: ??????????? # user gets second chance if number is too high ??????????? guess_ifhigh = input("You were too high. Type another number: ") ??????????? if guess_ifhigh == random_num: ??? ??? correct2() ??????????? else: ??? ??? wrong(random_num) ??? else: ??? wrong(random_num) main() --- On Sat, 3/5/11, kirby urner wrote: From: kirby urner Subject: Re: [Chicago] How could I make this better? To: "The Chicago Python Users Group" Date: Saturday, March 5, 2011, 5:28 PM Is you goal to share the source code with your kids? Dunno how young, but you might wanna make the if / elif / else stuff less deep. ?Just ifs, without elifs or elses might be cool. I'd probably make it a while True loop (with break conditions). ?A blank guess might mean "I give up" (nice to have an escape route). Chances of guessing the number in one?or two guesses is about nil. I'd think the proposer of this puzzle wan't very smart if I had to play such a game. ?:) Note that in Python 3, input returns a string, not an integer (so convert -- but you can catch a blank first, as distinct from 0). If your goal is to teach Python to your kids, I'd recommend Python 3. Kirby On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Malcolm Newsome wrote: Hey all.? I wrote this simple program for my children today.? I?m wondering if there was a more efficient alternative to the way I wrote it. ???# guess.py# a simple number guessing game?import random ?def main():??? ?print "Do you think you're smarter than me?"??? print "I guess we'll see!" ??? print "I'm thinking of a number between 0 - 100.? Can you guess what it is?"??? print???? guess = input("Type a number between 0 - 100: ") ???? random_num = random.randrange(0,100,1)???? if guess == random_num:??????? print "You got it! I guess you are smarter than me!" ???? elif guess < random_num:??????????? # user gets second chance if number is too low??????????? guess_iflow = input("You were too low. Type another number: ") ???????????? if guess_iflow == random_num:??????????????? print """That was right! I guess you're smarter than me... ??????????????? even though it took you another try!"""?????? ??????else:??????????????? print "Nope! I'm smarter than you!" ??????????????? print "I was thinking of the number: ", random_num???? elif guess > random_num:??????????? # user gets second chance if number is too high ??????????? guess_ifhigh = input("You were too high. Type another number: ")???????????? if guess_ifhigh == random_num: ??????????????? print """That was right! I guess you're smarter than me...??????????????? even though it took you another try!"""? ??????????? else:??????????????? print "Nope! I'm smarter than you!"??????????????? print "I was thinking of the number: ", random_num ???? else:??????? print "Nope! I'm smarter than you!"??????? print "I was thinking of the number: ", random_num ?main()? _______________________________________________ Chicago mailing list Chicago at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Chicago mailing list Chicago at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jsudlow at gmail.com Sun Mar 6 11:31:26 2011 From: jsudlow at gmail.com (Jon Sudlow) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 04:31:26 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] How could I make this better? In-Reply-To: <322778.98984.qm@web130123.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <322778.98984.qm@web130123.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: why are printing the string using three quotes? I know three means a doc string... just not sure. if guess_iflow == random_num: print """That was right! I guess you're smarter than me... even though it took you another try!""" Ok you said this program is for children. I think the flow of ifs and elifs might be a little complex for a child. Why not set it up like this for a first try for a child programmer? Generate random number Ask for a guess if guess is too high say "to high" if guess is too low say "to low" if guess equeals the random number "you got it, exit" repeat You can eliminate that whole second flow if you just have it repeat the process each time with a new guess input from the child. This also enables you to guess an unlimited amount of times at the answer each time comming closer and closer. Its kind of a cool game for a first try. On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Julie Bell wrote: > I am not a true python programmer. But I'd put the repeating messages into > a subroutine. > 1. To save on code space > 2. To be able to change message in one place > 3. Easier Readability of program > > The other thing I would do is put it into a loop the tries. > > > #simple number guessing game > > import random > > def correct(): > > print "You got it! I guess you are smarter than me!" > return > > def correct2(): > > print """That was right! I guess you're smarter than me... > even though it took you another try!""" > return > > def wrong(random_num): > > > print "Nope! I'm smarter than you!" > print "I was thinking of the number: ", random_num > return > > def main(): > > print "Do you think you're smarter than me?" > print "I guess we'll see!" > print "I'm thinking of a number between 0 - 100. Can you guess what it > is?" > print > > > guess = input("Type a number between 0 - 100: ") > random_num = random.randrange(0,100,1) > > if guess == random_num: > correct() > > > elif guess < random_num: > > # user gets second chance if number is too low > guess_iflow = input("You were too low. Type another number: ") > > if guess_iflow == random_num: > correct2() > else: > wrong(random_num) > > > elif guess > random_num: > > # user gets second chance if number is too high > guess_ifhigh = input("You were too high. Type another number: > ") > > if guess_ifhigh == random_num: > correct2() > else: > wrong(random_num) > else: > wrong(random_num) > > main() > > > --- On *Sat, 3/5/11, kirby urner * wrote: > > > From: kirby urner > Subject: Re: [Chicago] How could I make this better? > To: "The Chicago Python Users Group" > Date: Saturday, March 5, 2011, 5:28 PM > > > Is you goal to share the source code with your kids? > > Dunno how young, but you might wanna make the if / elif / else stuff less > deep. Just ifs, without elifs or elses might be cool. > > I'd probably make it a while True loop (with break conditions). A blank > guess might mean "I give up" (nice to have an escape route). > > Chances of guessing the number in one or two guesses is about nil. > > I'd think the proposer of this puzzle wan't very smart if I had to play > such a game. :) > > Note that in Python 3, input returns a string, not an integer (so convert > -- but you can catch a blank first, as distinct from 0). > > If your goal is to teach Python to your kids, I'd recommend Python 3. > > Kirby > > On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Malcolm Newsome > > wrote: > > Hey all. I wrote this simple program for my children today. I?m wondering > if there was a more efficient alternative to the way I wrote it. > > > > > > > > # guess.py > > # a simple number guessing game > > > > import random > > > > def main(): > > > > print "Do you think you're smarter than me?" > > print "I guess we'll see!" > > print "I'm thinking of a number between 0 - 100. Can you guess what it > is?" > > print > > > > guess = input("Type a number between 0 - 100: ") > > > > random_num = random.randrange(0,100,1) > > > > if guess == random_num: > > print "You got it! I guess you are smarter than me!" > > > > elif guess < random_num: > > # user gets second chance if number is too low > > guess_iflow = input("You were too low. Type another number: ") > > > > if guess_iflow == random_num: > > print """That was right! I guess you're smarter than me... > > even though it took you another try!""" > > > > else: > > print "Nope! I'm smarter than you!" > > print "I was thinking of the number: ", random_num > > > > elif guess > random_num: > > # user gets second chance if number is too high > > guess_ifhigh = input("You were too high. Type another number: > ") > > > > if guess_ifhigh == random_num: > > print """That was right! I guess you're smarter than me... > > even though it took you another try!""" > > > > else: > > print "Nope! I'm smarter than you!" > > print "I was thinking of the number: ", random_num > > > > else: > > print "Nope! I'm smarter than you!" > > print "I was thinking of the number: ", random_num > > > > main() > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carl at personnelware.com Sun Mar 6 15:44:31 2011 From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 08:44:31 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] doc strings Was: How could I make this better? Message-ID: On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 4:31 AM, Jon Sudlow wrote: > why are printing the string using three quotes? I know three means a doc > string... > Not exactly, and it's good to understand the subtle differences. Strings can be delimited with the single quote char, double quote char or 3 double quote chars: ' " """ Single and double are interchangeable. 2 exist to make it easy to embed one of the other: "don't" and 'he said, "The parrot is dead."' and if you need both you can escape: >>> print 'he said, "It\'s napping"' he said, "It's napping" Neither of these let you span lines: >>> print 'he said, "It\'s napping SyntaxError: EOL while scanning string literal Tripple quotes let you embed either of the quote chars and span lines: >>> print """double quote:" ... single quote:'""" double quote:" single quote:' on doc strings: python lets you put an expression on a line without assigning it to anything. This lets you call functions that do something but don't return a value you care to save: >>> print('how do you feel?') how do you feel? constants are expressions. I can't give a demo using the command prompt, because this is where the python shell's features and running code diverge. shell sends return values to stdout, running code does not. Doc strings are just a multi line string (a constant) sitting in code. being at the top of a module/function/class makes it a doc string. There are helper tools (like the help function) that will look there for a string. -- Carl K -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vceder at gmail.com Sun Mar 6 15:55:47 2011 From: vceder at gmail.com (Vern Ceder) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 09:55:47 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] doc strings Was: How could I make this better? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Carl Karsten wrote: > On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 4:31 AM, Jon Sudlow wrote: >> >> why are printing the string using three quotes? I know three means a doc >> string... > > Not exactly, and it's good to understand the subtle differences. > > Strings can be delimited with the single quote char, double quote char or 3 > double quote chars: ' " """ One minor thing to add is that you can also use triple *single* quotes, although it's not common for some reason, so ''' does exactly the same thing as """. Cheers, Vern > > Single and double are interchangeable.? 2 exist to make it easy to embed one > of the other:? "don't"? and 'he said, "The parrot is dead."'? and if you > need both you can escape: >>>> print 'he said, "It\'s napping"' > he said, "It's napping" > > Neither of these let you span lines: >>>> print 'he said, "It\'s napping > SyntaxError: EOL while scanning string literal > > Tripple quotes let you embed either of the quote chars and span lines: >>>> print """double quote:" > ... single quote:'""" > double quote:" > single quote:' > > on doc strings: > python lets you put an expression on a line without assigning it to > anything.? This lets you call functions that do something but don't return a > value you care to save: > >>>> print('how do you feel?') > how do you feel? > > constants are expressions.? I can't give a demo using the command prompt, > because this is where the python shell's features and running code > diverge.?? shell sends return values to stdout, running code does not. > > Doc strings are just a multi line string (a constant) sitting in code. > being at the top of a module/function/class makes it a doc string.? There > are helper tools (like the help function) that will look there for a string. > > > -- > Carl K > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -- Vern Ceder vceder at gmail.com, vceder at dogsinmotion.com The Quick Python Book, 2nd Ed - http://bit.ly/bRsWDW From vceder at gmail.com Mon Mar 7 01:47:50 2011 From: vceder at gmail.com (Vern Ceder) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 19:47:50 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] An introduction Message-ID: Hi everyone, I just thought I'd say hello as a new member of the list. I just joined a couple of days ago after accepting a job as a Python developer at a new company in Mundelein a week ago. I plan on moving to the area to start work by the beginning of April. And I should also mention that my new company (Zoro Tools) is looking for a couple more people with experience in some combination of Python, Linux, EC2, web apps and UI, Netsuite, CSS, Javascript, etc. If you have any interest, email me off list and I'll fill you in more and hook you up with the right person. As to my background, I'm a PyCon organizer (poster session chair), the author of The Quick Python Book, 2nd ed. (see link in sig) and coder and teacher - my current job is as the tech director at Canterbury School in Ft Wayne, IN and I also teach Python to kids online through Northwestern's Gifted Learning Links. Finally, coming from a somewhat smaller place like Ft Wayne, I'm really jazzed to be moving to an area with not one, but TWO Python groups! :) Cheers, Vern -- Vern Ceder vceder at gmail.com, vceder at dogsinmotion.com The Quick Python Book, 2nd Ed - http://bit.ly/bRsWDW From brianherman at gmail.com Mon Mar 7 01:54:04 2011 From: brianherman at gmail.com (Brian Herman) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 18:54:04 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] An introduction In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What is netsuite? Thanks, Brian Herman brianjherman.com brianherman at acm.org On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Vern Ceder wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I just thought I'd say hello as a new member of the list. I just > joined a couple of days ago after accepting a job as a Python > developer at a new company in Mundelein a week ago. I plan on moving > to the area to start work by the beginning of April. > > And I should also mention that my new company (Zoro Tools) is looking > for a couple more people with experience in some combination of > Python, Linux, EC2, web apps and UI, Netsuite, CSS, Javascript, etc. > If you have any interest, email me off list and I'll fill you in more > and hook you up with the right person. > > As to my background, I'm a PyCon organizer (poster session chair), the > author of The Quick Python Book, 2nd ed. (see link in sig) and coder > and teacher - my current job is as the tech director at Canterbury > School in Ft Wayne, IN and I also teach Python to kids online through > Northwestern's Gifted Learning Links. > > Finally, coming from a somewhat smaller place like Ft Wayne, I'm > really jazzed to be moving to an area with not one, but TWO Python > groups! :) > > Cheers, > Vern > > -- > Vern Ceder > vceder at gmail.com, vceder at dogsinmotion.com > The Quick Python Book, 2nd Ed - http://bit.ly/bRsWDW > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vceder at gmail.com Mon Mar 7 02:01:42 2011 From: vceder at gmail.com (Vern Ceder) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 20:01:42 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] An introduction In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Brian, Netsuite is a cloud based, SaaS, fully buzzword compliant enterprise ERP, CRM, inventory, financials, etc. package, which will be our backend. I don't have netsuite experience myself, and don't know too much about it, other than it does expose an API and there are Python libraries to access it. I'm sure I'll be learning way more in the next few weeks. Cheers, Vern On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Brian Herman wrote: > What is netsuite? > Thanks, > Brian Herman > > brianjherman.com > brianherman at acm.org > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Vern Ceder wrote: >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> I just thought I'd say hello as a new member of the list. I just >> joined a couple of days ago after accepting a job as a Python >> developer at a new company in Mundelein a week ago. I plan on moving >> to the area to start work by the beginning of April. >> >> And I should also mention that my new company (Zoro Tools) is looking >> for a couple more people with experience in some combination of >> Python, Linux, EC2, web apps and UI, Netsuite, CSS, Javascript, etc. >> If you have any interest, email me off list and I'll fill you in more >> and hook you up with the right person. >> >> As to my background, I'm a PyCon organizer (poster session chair), the >> author of The Quick Python Book, 2nd ed. (see link in sig) and coder >> and teacher - my current job is as the tech director at Canterbury >> School in Ft Wayne, IN and I also teach Python to kids online through >> Northwestern's Gifted Learning Links. >> >> Finally, coming from a somewhat smaller place like Ft Wayne, I'm >> really jazzed to be moving to an area with not one, but TWO Python >> groups! :) >> >> Cheers, >> Vern >> >> -- >> Vern Ceder >> vceder at gmail.com, vceder at dogsinmotion.com >> The Quick Python Book, 2nd Ed - http://bit.ly/bRsWDW >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -- Vern Ceder vceder at gmail.com, vceder at dogsinmotion.com The Quick Python Book, 2nd Ed - http://bit.ly/bRsWDW From malcolm.newsome at gmail.com Mon Mar 7 02:30:02 2011 From: malcolm.newsome at gmail.com (Malcolm Newsome) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 19:30:02 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] An introduction Message-ID: <007e01cbdc67$2f5ff0b0$8e1fd210$@gmail.com> Great to meet you Vern! I live a couple of towns over from Mundelein...look forward to seeing you at one of the meetings. Also, I'm brand new to Python (and programming in general)...good to know there's an educator nearby! :) Malcolm From aphor at me.com Mon Mar 7 18:17:33 2011 From: aphor at me.com (Jeremy McMillan) Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 11:17:33 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] pedantic guessing game demo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6E3B8FB8-4664-430C-A6EB-B63EA7693DBA@me.com> I'd assume you're intending to demonstrate procedural/imperative programming: Make the computer do this, then this other thing, and then yet another thing, which will always get the results we intend (describe elsewhere). I also noticed your program lies. First you tell the player "I'm thinking of a number between 0 - 100..." Then the player guesses, and then the program actually "thinks of a number between 0 - 100." While this is of little consequence here, a child who accepts this as correct might grow up to be a programmer that accepts all kinds of garbage as correct, ergo producing a lifetime of buggy foggy-headed programs inflicting inestimable damage possibly even for longer than the child will ever live. What a disservice! So to answer your question, "efficient" depends entirely on your goal. Maybe your children are older or more sophisticated and you want to demonstrate that you've monkey patched their 'input' and 'random.randrange' implementations to guarantee that the generator will never produce a number that has been recently accepted as input. In this (esoteric) case, I'd say your setup is very elegant and efficient. I don't think this is a very efficient program for minimally demonstrating conditional code in Python to the broadest audience of children though. Maybe try this? --- # guess.py # Subject your friends to a simple game that is almost impossible to win! def game(min = 1, max = 2, step = 1): print "Do you think you're smarter than me?" print "I guess we'll see!" secret_number = random.randrange(min, max, step) print "I'm thinking of a number between %d - %d. Can you guess what it is?" % (min, max) guess = input("Type a number between 0 - 100: ") if guess == secret_number: print "You got it! I guess you are smarter than me!" else: if guess < secret_number: reason = "too low" else: reason = "too high" print "%d is %s, but you can guess again." % (guess, reason) second_guess = input("Type another number: ") if second_guess == secret_number: print """That was right! I guess you're smarter than me... even though it took you another try!""" else: print "Nope! I'm smarter than you!" print "I was thinking of the number: ", secret_number print "We can't go out like that! Let's try something easier?" game() game(min = 1, max = 100) --- On Mar 5, 2011, at 6:44 PM, chicago-request at python.org wrote: > From: "Malcolm Newsome" > To: > Subject: [Chicago] How could I make this better? > Message-ID: <002e01cbdb85$778be020$66a3a060$@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hey all. I wrote this simple program for my children today. I'm > wondering > if there was a more efficient alternative to the way I wrote it. > > ... > print "I'm thinking of a number between 0 - 100. Can you guess > what it > is?" > print > guess = input("Type a number between 0 - 100: ") > random_num = random.randrange(0,100,1) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tottinge at gmail.com Mon Mar 7 21:23:16 2011 From: tottinge at gmail.com (Tim Ottinger) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 14:23:16 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] pedantic guessing game demo In-Reply-To: <6E3B8FB8-4664-430C-A6EB-B63EA7693DBA@me.com> References: <6E3B8FB8-4664-430C-A6EB-B63EA7693DBA@me.com> Message-ID: For children, I think this is a good start. Without introducing looping, and barely introducing subroutines, it's not bad for kids. I took a copy and started by running autonose in the directory and writing unit tests. That drove me to make a lot of changes. I ended up breaking out a game object, introducing member functions, isolating the input and output from the core game, etc. It was a fun thing to do. I even got to play with 'mock' a little bit. I'm teaching my son to work in python. He's a high school freshman. We're going to start with unit tests and build a version of 'battleship' together. I will chronicle the process. I'm sure it will be interesting to start with tests and functions and objects and move on to data and data storage, networking, and the rest. Tim -- ------------------------------------- http://agileinaflash.com/ http://agileotter.blogspot.com/ http://tottinge.blogsome.com From joe at germuska.com Mon Mar 7 21:42:16 2011 From: joe at germuska.com (Joe Germuska) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 14:42:16 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] pedantic guessing game demo In-Reply-To: References: <6E3B8FB8-4664-430C-A6EB-B63EA7693DBA@me.com> Message-ID: <9D7E8E13-D4B8-4789-BF48-A12B9D605A10@germuska.com> On Mar 7, 2011, at 2:23 PM, Tim Ottinger wrote: > We're going to start with unit tests and build a version of > 'battleship' together. I will chronicle the process. I'll look forward to reading about this. Joe -- Joe Germuska Joe at Germuska.com * http://blog.germuska.com * http://twitter.com/JoeGermuska "Participation. That's what's gonna save the human race." --Pete Seeger From verisimilidude at gmail.com Mon Mar 7 23:16:00 2011 From: verisimilidude at gmail.com (Phil Robare) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 16:16:00 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] pedantic guessing game demo In-Reply-To: References: <6E3B8FB8-4664-430C-A6EB-B63EA7693DBA@me.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Tim Ottinger wrote: > For children, I think this is a good start. Without introducing > looping, and barely introducing subroutines, it's not bad for kids. > > I took a copy and started by running ?autonose in the directory and > writing unit tests. That drove me to make a lot > of changes. ?I ended up breaking out a game object, introducing member > functions, isolating the input and output from the core game, etc. This mirrors my thoughts when I looked at the code. It is all written in one large function, with no distinction between user interaction, processing or data manipulation. There are no tests, and no easy way to inject testing. I started to think about a data object that would initialize itself and compare itself against a guess. I considered proposing a user interface object that would read its strings externally so it could easily be moved to different languages. And a process controller that would isolate the looping constructs could be added. But then again it's a one page function that has no plans to grow. All the above is premature optimization and should be done as part of refactoring processes as the code is prepped for the addition of the next step. Actually, If I was trying to get my kids interested, I would modify this into a web app where they could see the HTML and start to understand how the web is technology not magic. Being able to put in a background image and change the look of the page is fun. And when you show them that if they view the page source they can find the 'secret' number in the text of a hidden field they feel a thrill like they are cracking a secret of the universe. Phil From brianhray at gmail.com Mon Mar 7 23:48:50 2011 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 16:48:50 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] [ANN] ChiPy Monthly Downtown Meeting this Thursday Message-ID: Chicago Python User Group ========================= This will be one of our best meetings... Presentations range from the business side of Python to advanced audio processing with Python. Hope you can make it! Facility kindly provided by Sully's house http://www.sullyshouse.com/. We have the upstairs reserved for this event. Full cash bar and kitchen. A/V provided. Come early and get your food orders. No need to RSVP. (forward this announcement to all interested parties) When ---- Thursday, March 10th, 7pm. Topics ------ Spothero startup chooses Python (:30 Thirty Minutes) By: Mark Lawrence SpotHero is an online parking application being built which allows someone to rent out their parking spot to someone when they are not using it. Conversely, it allows somebody to rent it out temporarily when they are not using it. This can be for a sporting event, concert, festival, airport park and ride, etc. We would be willing to let those interested look at the code at the meeting which is currently being pushed to github. Audio Processing With Python (:30 Thirty Minutes) By: Ken Schutte Advanced Python topic: audio processing, numpy, and spectral analysis. ChiPy Website Changes (:15 Fifteen Minutes) By: Brian Ray I quick presentation on the new chipy.org website. Location -------- :: Sully's House Tap Room & Grill 1501 North Dayton Street Chicago, IL 60642 (773) 244-1234 Subway: North/Clybourn About the group --------------- ChiPy is made up of people of all levels of programming and Python knowledge. At every meeting we have had both beginning programmers, people who are just starting to use Python, as well as experienced Python programmers. Don't be intimidated about coming to a meeting. Note that ChiPy is not a formal organization. We collect no dues, elect no officers, and keep no roster. Signing up for the mailing list carries no obligation. Nor does showing up at the meetings. Nor, at least so far, does anything else we have done, although we always appreciate it when our presenters show up. (They usually do!) http://chipy.org From adrian at holovaty.com Tue Mar 8 00:18:27 2011 From: adrian at holovaty.com (Adrian Holovaty) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 17:18:27 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Recording Thursday's audio talk Message-ID: Hey, I'll be at PyCon and am really bummed I'll be missing Ken's audio processing talk. Any chance it can be recorded? Adrian On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > Chicago Python User Group > ========================= > > This will be one of our best meetings... Presentations range from the > business side of Python to advanced audio processing with Python. > Hope you can make it! > > Facility kindly provided by Sully's house http://www.sullyshouse.com/. > ?We have the upstairs reserved for this event. Full cash bar and > kitchen. A/V provided. Come early and get your food orders. No need to > RSVP. > > (forward this announcement to all interested parties) > > When > ---- > > Thursday, March 10th, 7pm. > > Topics > ------ > > Spothero startup chooses Python > (:30 Thirty Minutes) > By: Mark Lawrence > SpotHero is an online parking application being built which allows > someone to rent out their parking spot to someone when they are not > using it. Conversely, it allows somebody to rent it out temporarily > when they are not using it. This can be for a sporting event, concert, > festival, airport park and ride, etc. We would be willing to let those > interested look at the code at the meeting which is currently being > pushed to github. > > Audio Processing With Python > (:30 Thirty Minutes) > By: Ken Schutte > Advanced Python topic: audio processing, numpy, and spectral analysis. > > ChiPy Website Changes > (:15 Fifteen Minutes) > By: Brian Ray > I quick presentation on the new chipy.org website. > > Location > -------- > > :: > > ?Sully's House Tap Room & Grill > ?1501 North Dayton Street > ?Chicago, IL 60642 > ?(773) 244-1234 > ?Subway: North/Clybourn > > > About the group > --------------- > ChiPy is made up of people of all levels of programming and Python > knowledge. At every meeting we have had both beginning programmers, > people who are just starting to use Python, as well as experienced > Python programmers. Don't be intimidated about coming to a meeting. > > Note that ChiPy is not a formal organization. We collect no dues, > elect no officers, and keep no roster. Signing up for the mailing list > carries no obligation. Nor does showing up at the meetings. Nor, at > least so far, does anything else we have done, although we always > appreciate it when our presenters show up. (They usually do!) > > http://chipy.org > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > From carl at personnelware.com Tue Mar 8 00:34:47 2011 From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 17:34:47 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Recording Thursday's audio talk In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That's what I was thinking too ;) On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Adrian Holovaty wrote: > Hey, I'll be at PyCon and am really bummed I'll be missing Ken's audio > processing talk. Any chance it can be recorded? > > Adrian > > > On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Brian Ray wrote: >> Chicago Python User Group >> ========================= >> >> This will be one of our best meetings... Presentations range from the >> business side of Python to advanced audio processing with Python. >> Hope you can make it! >> >> Facility kindly provided by Sully's house http://www.sullyshouse.com/. >> ?We have the upstairs reserved for this event. Full cash bar and >> kitchen. A/V provided. Come early and get your food orders. No need to >> RSVP. >> >> (forward this announcement to all interested parties) >> >> When >> ---- >> >> Thursday, March 10th, 7pm. >> >> Topics >> ------ >> >> Spothero startup chooses Python >> (:30 Thirty Minutes) >> By: Mark Lawrence >> SpotHero is an online parking application being built which allows >> someone to rent out their parking spot to someone when they are not >> using it. Conversely, it allows somebody to rent it out temporarily >> when they are not using it. This can be for a sporting event, concert, >> festival, airport park and ride, etc. We would be willing to let those >> interested look at the code at the meeting which is currently being >> pushed to github. >> >> Audio Processing With Python >> (:30 Thirty Minutes) >> By: Ken Schutte >> Advanced Python topic: audio processing, numpy, and spectral analysis. >> >> ChiPy Website Changes >> (:15 Fifteen Minutes) >> By: Brian Ray >> I quick presentation on the new chipy.org website. >> >> Location >> -------- >> >> :: >> >> ?Sully's House Tap Room & Grill >> ?1501 North Dayton Street >> ?Chicago, IL 60642 >> ?(773) 244-1234 >> ?Subway: North/Clybourn >> >> >> About the group >> --------------- >> ChiPy is made up of people of all levels of programming and Python >> knowledge. At every meeting we have had both beginning programmers, >> people who are just starting to use Python, as well as experienced >> Python programmers. Don't be intimidated about coming to a meeting. >> >> Note that ChiPy is not a formal organization. We collect no dues, >> elect no officers, and keep no roster. Signing up for the mailing list >> carries no obligation. Nor does showing up at the meetings. Nor, at >> least so far, does anything else we have done, although we always >> appreciate it when our presenters show up. (They usually do!) >> >> http://chipy.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- Carl K From malcolm.newsome at gmail.com Tue Mar 8 01:48:43 2011 From: malcolm.newsome at gmail.com (Malcolm Newsome) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 18:48:43 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] pedantic guessing game demo Message-ID: <00d101cbdd2a$957bbaf0$c07330d0$@gmail.com> Hey All! I don't think my last message went through.I used the wrong subject line. I should clarify. I'm the one who's new to programming. I put a simple program together that we (my kids are 7 and 3) could have a little fun playing. I've been doing some Python exercises, but this was my first attempt at writing a program on my own... from scratch. I haven't learned much about conditionals and loops yet, so I knew there would be some really neat ways to improve the code. Thanks everyone for your feedback! PS - One thing programming is teaching me (albeit very slowly apparently) is to be much more specific when I write! J -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tottinge at gmail.com Tue Mar 8 07:15:18 2011 From: tottinge at gmail.com (Tim Ottinger) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 00:15:18 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] pedantic guessing game demo In-Reply-To: <00d101cbdd2a$957bbaf0$c07330d0$@gmail.com> References: <00d101cbdd2a$957bbaf0$c07330d0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Well, then, you still did well enough on a first attempt. This is a good starting place to learn about more techniques, like using methods, loops, and conditionals. Learning to use loops and functions will probably be next for you. Keep reading up on python, maybe using one of the nice online books or the tutorial that comes with it. You will learn about classes, functions, conditionals, loops and many exciting other features of our favorite programming language. It actually is a bit of fun to rewrite the program using Test-Driven Development (when you get that far along). -- ------------------------------------- http://agileinaflash.com/ http://agileotter.blogspot.com/ http://tottinge.blogsome.com From kenschutte at gmail.com Tue Mar 8 18:21:18 2011 From: kenschutte at gmail.com (Ken Schutte) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 11:21:18 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Recording Thursday's audio talk In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'll be writing up some slides and some sample code which I can post online if it's not recorded (or even if it is). I'm not sure what I can/should fit in. If anyone has any requests on the topic, let me know by tomorrow. I'm thinking of something like, - scientific python: numpy and friends - audio - FFTs, spectrograms - some simple filters Ken On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: > That's what I was thinking too ;) > > On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Adrian Holovaty wrote: >> Hey, I'll be at PyCon and am really bummed I'll be missing Ken's audio >> processing talk. Any chance it can be recorded? >> >> Adrian >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Brian Ray wrote: >>> Chicago Python User Group >>> ========================= >>> >>> This will be one of our best meetings... Presentations range from the >>> business side of Python to advanced audio processing with Python. >>> Hope you can make it! >>> >>> Facility kindly provided by Sully's house http://www.sullyshouse.com/. >>> ?We have the upstairs reserved for this event. Full cash bar and >>> kitchen. A/V provided. Come early and get your food orders. No need to >>> RSVP. >>> >>> (forward this announcement to all interested parties) >>> >>> When >>> ---- >>> >>> Thursday, March 10th, 7pm. >>> >>> Topics >>> ------ >>> >>> Spothero startup chooses Python >>> (:30 Thirty Minutes) >>> By: Mark Lawrence >>> SpotHero is an online parking application being built which allows >>> someone to rent out their parking spot to someone when they are not >>> using it. Conversely, it allows somebody to rent it out temporarily >>> when they are not using it. This can be for a sporting event, concert, >>> festival, airport park and ride, etc. We would be willing to let those >>> interested look at the code at the meeting which is currently being >>> pushed to github. >>> >>> Audio Processing With Python >>> (:30 Thirty Minutes) >>> By: Ken Schutte >>> Advanced Python topic: audio processing, numpy, and spectral analysis. >>> >>> ChiPy Website Changes >>> (:15 Fifteen Minutes) >>> By: Brian Ray >>> I quick presentation on the new chipy.org website. >>> >>> Location >>> -------- >>> >>> :: >>> >>> ?Sully's House Tap Room & Grill >>> ?1501 North Dayton Street >>> ?Chicago, IL 60642 >>> ?(773) 244-1234 >>> ?Subway: North/Clybourn >>> >>> >>> About the group >>> --------------- >>> ChiPy is made up of people of all levels of programming and Python >>> knowledge. At every meeting we have had both beginning programmers, >>> people who are just starting to use Python, as well as experienced >>> Python programmers. Don't be intimidated about coming to a meeting. >>> >>> Note that ChiPy is not a formal organization. We collect no dues, >>> elect no officers, and keep no roster. Signing up for the mailing list >>> carries no obligation. Nor does showing up at the meetings. Nor, at >>> least so far, does anything else we have done, although we always >>> appreciate it when our presenters show up. (They usually do!) >>> >>> http://chipy.org >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > > > -- > Carl K > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > From kumar.mcmillan at gmail.com Tue Mar 8 19:30:34 2011 From: kumar.mcmillan at gmail.com (Kumar McMillan) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 12:30:34 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Recording Thursday's audio talk In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Adrian Holovaty wrote: > Hey, I'll be at PyCon and am really bummed I'll be missing Ken's audio > processing talk. Any chance it can be recorded? > Same here. All of these talks look really amazing: Spothero, audio processing, and the new Pinax website (nice!). Don't we usually take the month off for PyCon? Maybe postpone til next month or next week? :D > Adrian > > > On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Brian Ray wrote: >> Chicago Python User Group >> ========================= >> >> This will be one of our best meetings... Presentations range from the >> business side of Python to advanced audio processing with Python. >> Hope you can make it! >> >> Facility kindly provided by Sully's house http://www.sullyshouse.com/. >> ?We have the upstairs reserved for this event. Full cash bar and >> kitchen. A/V provided. Come early and get your food orders. No need to >> RSVP. >> >> (forward this announcement to all interested parties) >> >> When >> ---- >> >> Thursday, March 10th, 7pm. >> >> Topics >> ------ >> >> Spothero startup chooses Python >> (:30 Thirty Minutes) >> By: Mark Lawrence >> SpotHero is an online parking application being built which allows >> someone to rent out their parking spot to someone when they are not >> using it. Conversely, it allows somebody to rent it out temporarily >> when they are not using it. This can be for a sporting event, concert, >> festival, airport park and ride, etc. We would be willing to let those >> interested look at the code at the meeting which is currently being >> pushed to github. >> >> Audio Processing With Python >> (:30 Thirty Minutes) >> By: Ken Schutte >> Advanced Python topic: audio processing, numpy, and spectral analysis. >> >> ChiPy Website Changes >> (:15 Fifteen Minutes) >> By: Brian Ray >> I quick presentation on the new chipy.org website. >> >> Location >> -------- >> >> :: >> >> ?Sully's House Tap Room & Grill >> ?1501 North Dayton Street >> ?Chicago, IL 60642 >> ?(773) 244-1234 >> ?Subway: North/Clybourn >> >> >> About the group >> --------------- >> ChiPy is made up of people of all levels of programming and Python >> knowledge. At every meeting we have had both beginning programmers, >> people who are just starting to use Python, as well as experienced >> Python programmers. Don't be intimidated about coming to a meeting. >> >> Note that ChiPy is not a formal organization. We collect no dues, >> elect no officers, and keep no roster. Signing up for the mailing list >> carries no obligation. Nor does showing up at the meetings. Nor, at >> least so far, does anything else we have done, although we always >> appreciate it when our presenters show up. (They usually do!) >> >> http://chipy.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > From brianhray at gmail.com Tue Mar 8 19:39:04 2011 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 12:39:04 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Recording Thursday's audio talk In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think it will be recorded; although, not professionally this time since I think Carl is probably recording PyCon right now. In a way, I think we are trying to make up for the fact some of are not there. For those of you who can make, this is going to be great :P Perhaps best ever! -- Brian Ray From brian.curtin at gmail.com Tue Mar 8 19:43:20 2011 From: brian.curtin at gmail.com (Brian Curtin) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 12:43:20 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Recording Thursday's audio talk In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:39, Brian Ray wrote: > I think it will be recorded; although, not professionally this time > since I think Carl is probably recording PyCon right now. > > In a way, I think we are trying to make up for the fact some of are > not there. For those of you who can make, this is going to be great :P > Perhaps best ever! Sully's makes meetings even better than the best ever. Bestest, perhaps. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We need a few hands that can pitch in part time or as a side job for a percent of ownership. > > The application is essentially a location based event finder. There is a lot more behind it which we'd like to discuss with you in person. > > The great thing about our project is that advertising will also be location based and has the capability of becoming very profitable due to the project's large target audience. > > If you are interested in learning more, please reply or give me a call. I'll set up a meeting to discuss this with me and my partner. > > Regards, > > Chris Bartolone > ChristopherBartolone at gmail.com > 630-209-5218 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Malcolm -----Original Message----- From: chicago-bounces+malcolm.newsome=gmail.com at python.org [mailto:chicago-bounces+malcolm.newsome=gmail.com at python.org] On Behalf Of chicago-request at python.org Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 6:45 PM To: chicago at python.org Subject: Chicago Digest, Vol 67, Issue 6 Send Chicago mailing list submissions to chicago at python.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to chicago-request at python.org You can reach the person managing the list at chicago-owner at python.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Chicago digest..." From cwebber at dustycloud.org Wed Mar 9 01:09:50 2011 From: cwebber at dustycloud.org (Christopher Allan Webber) Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 18:09:50 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Recording Thursday's audio talk In-Reply-To: (Brian Ray's message of "Tue, 8 Mar 2011 12:39:04 -0600") References: Message-ID: <87mxl55f3l.fsf@dustycloud.org> Brian Ray writes: > In a way, I think we are trying to make up for the fact some of are > not there. For those of you who can make, this is going to be great :P > Perhaps best ever! best chipy ever VS best pycon ever Round 1. FIGHT!!!! -- ??????????? ????? ?????? From malcolm.newsome at gmail.com Wed Mar 9 16:15:55 2011 From: malcolm.newsome at gmail.com (Malcolm Newsome) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 09:15:55 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] pedantic guessing game demo Message-ID: <005301cbde6c$eb726c90$c25745b0$@gmail.com> Thanks Tim! From clydeforrester at gmail.com Wed Mar 9 16:51:06 2011 From: clydeforrester at gmail.com (Clyde Forrester) Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 09:51:06 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] How could I make this better? In-Reply-To: <002e01cbdb85$778be020$66a3a060$@gmail.com> References: <002e01cbdb85$778be020$66a3a060$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4D77A1EA.8050204@gmail.com> Malcolm Newsome wrote: > Hey all. I wrote this simple program for my children today. I?m > wondering if there was a more efficient alternative to the way I wrote it. Interesting program. I have 3 concerns: 1. Your decision tree. Your major possibilities include: 1. == 2. < 3. > or D. None of the above. Condition D should never happen. You should either consider the possibilities better, or throw a diagnostic fail if D happens. 2. Range of numbers. The range of integers from 0 through 100 covers 101 integers. This is a common boundary condition problem. It relates to my next point. 3. Integer vs floating point. If you want integers, and you ask for a random floating point number, you have some figuring to do. For a range of integers from 1 to 100, you would get a floating point random in the range of 0 to 100, and then what? Recast as an integer? How? If you round to nearest, then 0 and 100 have a .5% chance each. If you round up, that could work better. But it might be much easier to use something like random.randint(1,100). So, thanks for contributing. Great programming exercise for you. Great code review exercise for the rest of us. c4 From jonathan.hayward at pobox.com Thu Mar 10 16:14:37 2011 From: jonathan.hayward at pobox.com (Jonathan Hayward) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:14:37 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Keywords: Heard it Message-ID: Different languages have different purposes. Pascal is for students. BASIC is for children. COBOL is for business. Fortran is for number crunching. SQL is for databases. PHP is for web. Perl is for system administration. Lisp is for Emacs users. But Python is for programmers. -- [image: Christos Jonathan Hayward] Jonathan Hayward, an Orthodox Christian author. Author Bio ? Books ? *Email * ? Facebook ? LinkedIn ? Twitter ? *Web * ? What's New? I invite you to visit my "theology, literature, and other creative works" site. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brianhray at gmail.com Fri Mar 11 01:43:02 2011 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 18:43:02 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Mac Book Pro to VGA Message-ID: If someone has an adapter, pls bring it for the meeting. Thx, Brian From brianhray at gmail.com Fri Mar 11 15:58:14 2011 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 08:58:14 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] ChiPy North Message-ID: ChiPy North will happen next Thursday. We had a great Loop meeting last night and the videos will be posted sometime within the next week. Where did we leave off finding a venue for next weeks meeting? Can someone confirm they found a venue? -- Brian Ray From malcolm.newsome at gmail.com Fri Mar 11 16:50:48 2011 From: malcolm.newsome at gmail.com (Malcolm Newsome) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 09:50:48 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] ChiPy North Meeting for March Message-ID: <012601cbe004$183fda80$48bf8f80$@gmail.com> Hey All, Are we still planning to have a ChiPy meeting in the North this month? Malcolm From tottinge at gmail.com Fri Mar 11 17:10:28 2011 From: tottinge at gmail.com (Tim Ottinger) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 10:10:28 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] ChiPy North Meeting for March In-Reply-To: <012601cbe004$183fda80$48bf8f80$@gmail.com> References: <012601cbe004$183fda80$48bf8f80$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Please? I would love to have something, even if it amounts to a few of us having nachos someplace. I would love it to be a proper meeting a dozen people, but we should not call it off even if attendance is very light. On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Malcolm Newsome wrote: > > Hey All, > > Are we still planning to have a ChiPy meeting in the North this month? > > Malcolm > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- ------------------------------------- http://agileinaflash.com/ http://agileotter.blogspot.com/ http://tottinge.blogsome.com From brianhray at gmail.com Fri Mar 11 17:18:18 2011 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 10:18:18 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] ChiPy North Meeting for March In-Reply-To: References: <012601cbe004$183fda80$48bf8f80$@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Tim Ottinger wrote: > Please? I would love to have something, even if it amounts to a few of us > having > nachos someplace. I would love it to be a proper meeting a dozen people, > but we > should not call it off even if attendance is very light. > > Agreed. And we do have one presenter so we need to meet somewhere to accommodate. That is the only constraint. -- Brian Ray (773) 669-7717 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ken.wasetis at contextualcorp.com Fri Mar 11 17:21:10 2011 From: ken.wasetis at contextualcorp.com (Ken Wasetis [Contextual Corp.]) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 10:21:10 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] ChiPy North Meeting for March In-Reply-To: References: <012601cbe004$183fda80$48bf8f80$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4D7A4BF6.7060305@contextualcorp.com> I can't make it this month, but will be at the April ChiPy North meeting. Just wanted to reaffirm interest. And I'd agree - even if there are only 4-5 people who can make it next month, I'd still attend. -Ken On 3/11/11 10:10 AM, Tim Ottinger wrote: > Please? I would love to have something, even if it amounts to a few of us having > nachos someplace. I would love it to be a proper meeting a dozen people, but we > should not call it off even if attendance is very light. > > On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Malcolm Newsome > wrote: >> Hey All, >> >> Are we still planning to have a ChiPy meeting in the North this month? >> >> Malcolm >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > From dgriff1 at gmail.com Fri Mar 11 17:27:24 2011 From: dgriff1 at gmail.com (Daniel Griffin) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 10:27:24 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] ChiPy North Meeting for March In-Reply-To: <4D7A4BF6.7060305@contextualcorp.com> References: <012601cbe004$183fda80$48bf8f80$@gmail.com> <4D7A4BF6.7060305@contextualcorp.com> Message-ID: I do want to present on 0MQ because it is super cool. If it is going to be a small gathering we can mess around with it informally. On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Ken Wasetis [Contextual Corp.] < ken.wasetis at contextualcorp.com> wrote: > I can't make it this month, but will be at the April ChiPy North meeting. > > Just wanted to reaffirm interest. And I'd agree - even if there are only > 4-5 people who can make it next month, I'd still attend. > > -Ken > > > On 3/11/11 10:10 AM, Tim Ottinger wrote: > >> Please? I would love to have something, even if it amounts to a few of us >> having >> nachos someplace. I would love it to be a proper meeting a dozen people, >> but we >> should not call it off even if attendance is very light. >> >> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Malcolm Newsome >> wrote: >> >>> Hey All, >>> >>> Are we still planning to have a ChiPy meeting in the North this month? >>> >>> Malcolm >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I have a few topics to talk about there including security, integration, legacy databases, and more ActiveMQ/Stomp topics. Our offices are always available for hosting meetings at Praxis (94 an 60) if we can't get another venue. Dean On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Daniel Griffin wrote: > I do want to present on 0MQ because it is super cool. If it is going to be > a small gathering we can mess around with it informally. > > > On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Ken Wasetis [Contextual Corp.] < > ken.wasetis at contextualcorp.com> wrote: > >> I can't make it this month, but will be at the April ChiPy North meeting. >> >> Just wanted to reaffirm interest. And I'd agree - even if there are only >> 4-5 people who can make it next month, I'd still attend. >> >> -Ken >> >> >> On 3/11/11 10:10 AM, Tim Ottinger wrote: >> >>> Please? I would love to have something, even if it amounts to a few of us >>> having >>> nachos someplace. I would love it to be a proper meeting a dozen people, >>> but we >>> should not call it off even if attendance is very light. >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Malcolm Newsome >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hey All, >>>> >>>> Are we still planning to have a ChiPy meeting in the North this month? >>>> >>>> Malcolm >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chicago mailing list >>>> Chicago at python.org >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'll present on MongoDB and PyMongo since there was a lot of discussion on the topic at the last north meeting and it's almost as awesome as 0MQ. Dean On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > > > On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Dean Sellis wrote: > >> >> Our offices are always available for hosting meetings at Praxis (94 an 60) >> if we can't get another venue. >> >> > +1 > > Dean, Thanks for your offer to host and present. You have a good venue so > let's do it. It will be up chipy site shortly. > > -- > > Brian Ray > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tathagatadg at gmail.com Sat Mar 12 07:50:16 2011 From: tathagatadg at gmail.com (Tathagata Dasgupta) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 00:50:16 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Looking for a well designed yet sizable project to read Message-ID: Hi all, It was great meeting the Python enthusiasts of Chicago, and listening to two very different flavored talks this Thursday. Looking forward to the next meetup ... I've been playing around with Python for some time and it has totally taken over as my default language now. The initial leap was easy enough, but now I feeling a bit stuck with so much power in hand. With Java/C++ it was immediately obvious how to design the code, primarily because of the language structure, but here its a bit different. Most of my codes are becoming a bunch of .py, .pyc files functioning like pretty bash scripts on python steroids which hardly care about being encapsulated into user defined classes. Can you point me to some manageable sized project which I can read to understand how I should design my projects in Python? Links and tips of best practices would be really great to have ... And lastly no Python programmer would probably feel good to let django slip away from his toolkit; there are too many resources out there too ... but any django 101 talk coming up anytime soon? -- Cheers, Tathagata From kumar.mcmillan at gmail.com Sat Mar 12 15:16:26 2011 From: kumar.mcmillan at gmail.com (Kumar McMillan) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 08:16:26 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Looking for a well designed yet sizable project to read In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 12:50 AM, Tathagata Dasgupta wrote: > > Can you point me to some manageable sized project which I can read to > understand how I should design my projects in Python? > Links and tips of best practices would be really great to have ... > > And lastly no Python programmer would probably feel good to let django > slip away from his toolkit; there are too many resources out there too > ... but any django 101 talk coming up anytime soon? Hello Tathagata. I was sorry to miss this meeting but it conflicted with PyCon :( Big ChiPy representation here in ATL though! Since you also mention your interest in Django you could take a look at a project I work on called Zamboni: https://github.com/jbalogh/zamboni/ It's very large so the code base will take some time to grok. There are install docs which explains how to set everything up: http://jbalogh.github.com/zamboni/topics/installation/ This is a Django app that powers https://addons.mozilla.org/ , which is has a lot of features for scaling and enhanced security that you don't get using out-of-the-box Django. Actually, the core of it has been extracted out into a skeleton you could use for your own Django apps if you wanted: https://github.com/mozilla/playdoh It's a bit heavyweight since it's intended mainly for high traffic sites localized in many languages--sites that kiddies spend all day trying to hack--so it may not be for everyone. The Zamboni code is well designed IMO (I only started working on it recently); it follows PEP8 standards, it follows general Django standards, has pretty good docs, has about 1800 tests, and uses lots of helpful 3rd party and custom modules. The one thing that's a little odd about it is it doesn't use virtualenv for production (although we use it for development). I wouldn't necessary suggest following this pattern although it has some benefits. For Mozilla, it was necessary because we have 24 webheads that run Django and it slowed us down pulling in packages from a PyPI server for each deploy on each webhead. Instead, all dependencies are checked into git so that you can just run git pull to get diffs applied. Let me know if you have any questions. Kumar From tathagatadg at gmail.com Sat Mar 12 16:59:45 2011 From: tathagatadg at gmail.com (Tathagata Dasgupta) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:59:45 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Looking for a well designed yet sizable project to read In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you so much for the reply Kumar... Umm, ... Zamboni and playdoh looks like Megatron, compared to my Python mileage, (I haven't yet written a django app :( ... ). But these'll be great resources to look up - robust on security, scalability and standards. But the projects that I have to finish by the end of the semester, is something like a code-documentation traceability link finder and does not need to have a web ui/usability (but I'm purposely trying to add it, and some nice guy on SO suggested to use http://bottlepy.org/ for my simplistic need). Of course, after last Thursday I can't think of leaving out matplotlib (thanks Ken :) ) to show some nice petty plots. BTW, there seems to be a number of projects that exist like monolithic .py file - is that good design? On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 8:16 AM, Kumar McMillan wrote: > On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 12:50 AM, Tathagata Dasgupta > wrote: >> >> Can you point me to some manageable sized project which I can read to >> understand how I should design my projects in Python? >> Links and tips of best practices would be really great to have ... >> >> And lastly no Python programmer would probably feel good to let django >> slip away from his toolkit; there are too many resources out there too >> ... but any django 101 talk coming up anytime soon? > > Hello Tathagata. > > I was sorry to miss this meeting but it conflicted with PyCon :( ?Big > ChiPy representation here in ATL though! > > Since you also mention your interest in Django you could take a look > at a project I work on called Zamboni: > https://github.com/jbalogh/zamboni/ > > It's very large so the code base will take some time to grok. ?There > are install docs which explains how to set everything up: > http://jbalogh.github.com/zamboni/topics/installation/ > > This is a Django app that powers https://addons.mozilla.org/ , which > is has a lot of features for scaling and enhanced security that you > don't get using out-of-the-box Django. ?Actually, the core of it has > been extracted out into a skeleton you could use for your own Django > apps if you wanted: https://github.com/mozilla/playdoh ?It's a bit > heavyweight since it's intended mainly for high traffic sites > localized in many languages--sites that kiddies spend all day trying > to hack--so it may not be for everyone. > > The Zamboni code is well designed IMO (I only started working on it > recently); it follows PEP8 standards, it follows general Django > standards, has pretty good docs, has about 1800 tests, and uses lots > of helpful 3rd party and custom modules. ?The one thing that's a > little odd about it is it doesn't use virtualenv for production > (although we use it for development). ?I wouldn't necessary suggest > following this pattern although it has some benefits. ?For Mozilla, it > was necessary because we have 24 webheads that run Django and it > slowed us down pulling in packages from a PyPI server for each deploy > on each webhead. ?Instead, all dependencies are checked into git so > that you can just run git pull to get diffs applied. > > Let me know if you have any questions. > > Kumar > -- Cheers, Tathagata Graduate Student Department of Computer Science University of Illinois, Chicago From malcolm.newsome at gmail.com Sat Mar 12 17:28:20 2011 From: malcolm.newsome at gmail.com (Malcolm Newsome) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 10:28:20 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] ChiPy North Meeting for March Message-ID: <009901cbe0d2$80dcd060$82967120$@gmail.com> +1 Malcolm From brian.curtin at gmail.com Sun Mar 13 14:43:56 2011 From: brian.curtin at gmail.com (Brian Curtin) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 09:43:56 -0400 Subject: [Chicago] Looking for a well designed yet sizable project to read In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mar 12, 2011 11:04 AM, "Tathagata Dasgupta" wrote: > > BTW, there seems to be a number of projects that exist like monolithic > .py file - is that good design? It's certainly not bad design - it just depends on the needs of your project. "Flat is better than nested" is a common theme in Python which applies to a lot of things - project layout included. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From maney at two14.net Mon Mar 14 05:43:54 2011 From: maney at two14.net (Martin Maney) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 23:43:54 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Looking for a well designed yet sizable project to read In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20110314044354.GB32740@furrr.two14.net> On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 09:43:56AM -0400, Brian Curtin wrote: > On Mar 12, 2011 11:04 AM, "Tathagata Dasgupta" > wrote: > > > > BTW, there seems to be a number of projects that exist like monolithic > > .py file - is that good design? > > It's certainly not bad design - it just depends on the needs of your > project. "Flat is better than nested" is a common theme in Python which > applies to a lot of things - project layout included. Yeah. I've escaped from the tyranny of "real" OOD and now use whatever mix of objects, functions, higher-order functions, and that Python special, namespaces, that the work in hand seems to call for. As the design is proven it often becomes apparent where parts of it should crystallize into objects, but starting with them... well, I'm not opposed in principle, just don't often feel moved to. And always gotta remember how easy it is to organize stuff in a namespace. Classes are a sometimes-useful special case of namespaces. :-) -- I'm not proud. We really haven't done everything we could to protect our customers ... Our products just aren't engineered for security. -- Brian Valentine, Microsoft Senior VP in charge of the Windows development team From aishahalim at gmail.com Mon Mar 14 15:58:30 2011 From: aishahalim at gmail.com (Aisha Halim) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 09:58:30 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Registration open at Flourish! 2011, Apr 1st - 3rd Message-ID: I know you're probably recovering from PyCon at the moment, but we have Flourish coming up very soon, and a whole new line-up for this year. You might want to check it out, and maybe, register for that cute free t-shirt :D See more information below the sign off. -Aisha CELEBRATE INNOVATION WITH CHICAGO'S LINUX & OPEN-SOURCE SOFTWARE ENTHUSIASTS AT FLOURISH! 2011 *From April 1 - 3, Free Technology Conference Brings Fifth Year of Insightful Talks and Hands-on Workshops about Open-source Software, Technology, and Culture* WHAT An annual gathering of, for, and by enthusiasts of open-source software, technology, and culture, taking place at the University of Illinois at Chicago. This year, you can also take your exams for certification by the Linux Professional Institute (LPI) and BSD Certification Group (BSDCG). FEATURED SPEAKERS and TOPICS Flourish! 2011's list of speakers include: - Chris Palmer, Technology Director of the Electronic Frontier Foundation, on Internet decentralization efforts - Chris McAvoy, VP of Technology at Threadless, on "What Should You Build?" - Ryan "Icculus" Gordon, professional Linux 3D game developer - Vinod Kutty, CME Group, on migrating to Linux on x86 - Cathy Malmrose, CEO of ZaReason, on stress-testing Linux hardware - Mark Meeker, Principal UI Engineer for Orbitz Worldwide, on real-world Web development - Edward R. Swiderski III, partner at GreenCanyon, on "Is Software Licensing Still Relevant?" - Daliah Saper, Principal of SaperLaw, on the legal aspects of open source - Italo Vignoli, The Document Foundation, LibreOffice - Mitch Altman, CEO of Cornfield Electronics, on forming communities - Dru Lavigne, Community Manager of PC-BSD, on the PC-BSD desktop - Dean Wampler, Principal of Aspect Research Associates, on Scala Complete list of speakers at http://www.flourishconf.com/2011/speakers WHEN April 1 - 3, 2011 April 1, Evening Program Reception 4:00 - 4:30 p.m. Keynotes start at 4:30 p.m. April 2, Day-Long Program Morning Reception 9:00 a.m. - 10:00 a.m. Main conference starts at 10:00 a.m. April 3, Mid-Day Program Morning Reception 10:00 - 11:00 a.m. Day starts at 11:00 a.m Certification exams take place from 11am - 3pm. Go to the Flourish! website for more details: http://www.flourishconf.com/2011/exams Complete schedule will be available at http://www.flourishconf.com/2011/schedule WHERE UIC Student Center East 750 South Halsted Street Chicago, IL WHO Flourish! is organized by the Computer Science department of the University of Illinois at Chicago's (UIC's) School of Engineering, as well as the University's Linux user group and chapter of the Association of Computing Machinery (ACM). The conference is sponsored in part by GreenCanyon, Linux Journal, the Linux Professional Institute, Orbitz, O'Reilly, SourceForge, Times Two Technology, Threadless and Ubuntu. HOW Registration is free at http://www.flourishconf.com/2011/registration Join us on Facebook at http://facebook.com/flourishconf/ Conference updates and conversation-starters on Twitter at http://twitter.com/flourishconf/. From tonkinjs at yahoo.com Tue Mar 15 23:22:28 2011 From: tonkinjs at yahoo.com (Jonathan Tonkin) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 15:22:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Chicago] Several items that may be of interest to group members Message-ID: <140687.55401.qm@web111314.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hello, While this may not be directly related to group topics, here are several items that may be of interest to group members. 1.) (shortest first) The Chicago Chapter of the ACM is now on Facebook and Twitter.? Join our Facebook Group (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=59120137059) or follow us on Twitter (username:? chicagoacm). 2.)? Next ACM Meeting: March 16, 2011 A joint meeting with the Loyola University Computer Science Department Panel: Steve Jones, Peter Schraeder, Peter Dordal Topic: "Social Networks and Political Revolution - Fact or Fiction?" Wednesday, March 16, 2011, 6:30 pm 5:30 pm -6:30 pm (Social Hour) Loyola University Water Tower Campus (Chicago/Michigan Area) 820 N Michigan, Chicago IL 60611 Beane Ballroom (13th Floor, Lewis Towers) Campus map: http://www.luc.edu/about/pdfs/wtc_may09.pdf Admission: Free (General Admission, No Reserved Seats) Reservations: To make a reservation, use this form: (https://spreadsheets.google.com/a/chicagoacm.org/viewform?authkey=COLGwuYP&formkey=dHVPTGQ1dGZGRGhBLVVIY09FT1dyZ3c6MA&ndplr=1#gid=0) or send an e-mail to greg at neumarke.net. About the Topic: Media accounts of recent events in Egypt and Tunisia cite bloggers, anonymous or otherwise, as key catalysts. Do these social networking "players" actually affect social change or are they just casually and vicariously involved spectators to greater events? In addition to the question of effectiveness, who really controls these networks and what is their agenda - if any? About the Panel: Steve Jones of UIC's Department of Communication, a noted contributor to WBEZ. Peter Schraeder of Loyola's Political Science Department, who was in Tunisia at the time of its revolution. Peter Dordal of Loyola's Computer Science Department, a networks specialist who has an interest in social, ethical, and legal issues in computing. Thanks, Jonathan Tonkin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cwebber at dustycloud.org Tue Mar 15 23:25:55 2011 From: cwebber at dustycloud.org (Christopher Allan Webber) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 17:25:55 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Looking for a well designed yet sizable project to read In-Reply-To: (Tathagata Dasgupta's message of "Sat, 12 Mar 2011 00:50:16 -0600") References: Message-ID: <87r5a83tsc.fsf@dustycloud.org> Maybe you can find a project to read and contribute to on http://openhatch.org ? Tathagata Dasgupta writes: > Hi all, > It was great meeting the Python enthusiasts of Chicago, and listening > to two very different flavored talks this Thursday. Looking forward to > the next meetup ... > > I've been playing around with Python for some time and it has totally > taken over as my default language now. The initial leap was easy > enough, but now I feeling a bit stuck with so much power in hand. With > Java/C++ it was immediately obvious how to design the code, primarily > because of the language structure, but here its a bit different. Most > of my codes are becoming a bunch of .py, .pyc files functioning like > pretty bash scripts on python steroids which hardly care about being > encapsulated into user defined classes. > > Can you point me to some manageable sized project which I can read to > understand how I should design my projects in Python? > Links and tips of best practices would be really great to have ... > > And lastly no Python programmer would probably feel good to let django > slip away from his toolkit; there are too many resources out there too > ... but any django 101 talk coming up anytime soon? -- ??????????? ????? ?????? From tathagatadg at gmail.com Tue Mar 15 23:43:20 2011 From: tathagatadg at gmail.com (Tathagata Dasgupta) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 17:43:20 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Looking for a well designed yet sizable project to read In-Reply-To: <87r5a83tsc.fsf@dustycloud.org> References: <87r5a83tsc.fsf@dustycloud.org> Message-ID: Yeah, I've been to openhatch before, felt excited, and then somehow forgotten all about it.... Thanks :) I'm slowly starting to get out of design paralysis after some encouraging posts here... will never get it right the first time; that's what refactoring is there for. On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Christopher Allan Webber wrote: > Maybe you can find a project to read and contribute to on > http://openhatch.org ? > > Tathagata Dasgupta writes: > >> Hi all, >> It was great meeting the Python enthusiasts of Chicago, and listening >> to two very different flavored talks this Thursday. Looking forward to >> the next meetup ... >> >> I've been playing around with Python for some time and it has totally >> taken over as my default language now. The initial leap was easy >> enough, but now I feeling a bit stuck with so much power in hand. With >> Java/C++ it was immediately obvious how to design the code, primarily >> because of the language structure, but here its a bit different. Most >> of my codes are becoming a bunch of .py, .pyc files functioning like >> pretty bash scripts on python steroids which hardly care about being >> encapsulated into user defined classes. >> >> Can you point me to some manageable sized project which I can read to >> understand how I should design my projects in Python? >> Links and tips of best practices would be really great to have ... >> >> And lastly no Python programmer would probably feel good to let django >> slip away from his toolkit; there are too many resources out there too >> ... but any django 101 talk coming up anytime soon? > > -- > ??????????? ????? ?????? > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- Cheers, Tathagata Graduate Student Department of Computer Science University of Illinois, Chicago From eviljoel at linux.com Wed Mar 16 03:57:54 2011 From: eviljoel at linux.com (eviljoel) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 22:57:54 -0400 Subject: [Chicago] Sprint Coach Needed for PSF Python Sprint at Flourish 2011! - April 1st - 3rd Message-ID: Hello All, I see my friend Aisha announced to you yesterday that Flourish registration is open, so I'll spare you the details about our conference. If you need details about the conference in general, please refer to http://www.flourishconf.com/. I've been in contact with Brian Curtin and a couple others about setting up an official PSF sponsored Python Sprint at Flourish 2011. More on Python Sprints can be found at http://pythonsprints.com/. Unfortunately, Brain can only be a Sprint Coach on Sunday. We currently do not have a Sprint Coach locked down for Friday night and Saturday. If being a Sprint Coach at Flourish is something that interests you, please reply and let me know. What exactly we'll be coding at the Python Sprint is still to be determined. I am waiting to see what our second Sprint Coach is interested in working on before committing to a specific type of project. However, the Python Sprints website has the following suggestions: - Python Core work, e.g, bug triage, documentation - Porting libraries/applications to Python 3 - PyPI and packaging related improvements - Contribution to Python VMs, e.g., PyPy, IronPython - Contribution to other Python projects, e.g., Django, PIL, pywin32 and so on... If you are interested in contributing during the Python Sprint itself but are not up for being a Sprint Coach, please send me an e-mail (joel at flourishconf.com) and I'll keep you informed about this event as details are established. Oh, and please excuse me if word about this proposed sprint already got out to you via this list. I checked the archives before sending this e-mail, but I still might have missed it. One last request. I notice you have a meeting this Thursday in the north suburbs. I would greatly appreciate it if someone could announce Flourish and our search for a Sprint Coach at this meeting. I would attend it myself but it seems impossible to get up there via public transportation. Thank you, Joel Luellwitz From brianhray at gmail.com Wed Mar 16 04:19:34 2011 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 22:19:34 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] [ANN] ChiPy Monthly North Meeting this Thursday Message-ID: Chicago Python User Group ========================= Save the date, This will be the best North meeting ever. (forward this announcement to all interested parties) When: Thursday March 17th 2011 7 p.m. Where: Praxis Management International 100 North Field Drive, Suite 150 Lake Forest, IL 60045 (847) 295-7160 ** BYOB -- Bring your own Food and Refreshments and coordinate with others on the list if you wish to order delivery ** Not Required, but RSVP if you get a chance https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dHVLOTNTU3oxTzJKYjB3RmV4eVZkMEE6MA Topics: ?MQ (:30 Thirty Minutes) By: Daniel Griffin zeromq Less is More ?MQ \zeromq\: The socket library that acts as a concurrency framework. MongoDB and PyMongo (:30 Thirty Minutes) By: Dean Sellis PyMongo is a Python distribution containing tools for working with MongoDB, and is the recommended way to work with MongoDB from Python. About the group --------------- ChiPy is made up of people of all levels of programming and Python knowledge. At every meeting we have had both beginning programmers, people who are just starting to use Python, as well as experienced Python programmers. Don't be intimidated about coming to a meeting. Note that ChiPy is not a formal organization. We collect no dues, elect no officers, and keep no roster. Signing up for the mailing list carries no obligation. Nor does showing up at the meetings. Nor, at least so far, does anything else we have done, although we always appreciate it when our presenters show up. (They usually do!) http://chipy.org -- From brianherman at gmail.com Wed Mar 16 07:13:41 2011 From: brianherman at gmail.com (Brian Herman) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 01:13:41 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Need Some Help Developing a Web Application In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Do you have any funding? Thanks, Brian Herman brianjherman.com brianherman at acm.org On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Christopher Bartolone < christopherbartolone at gmail.com> wrote: > Hey all, > > Not much for responses yet and we are getting closer to a drop dead date. > The sooner you can partner with us the better your percentage will be. Come > join us to create the new Chicago based start up company, the next Groupon. > I will be posting the site as soon as we have a working copy. I appreciate > any feedback. Thanks all! > > Regards, > > Chris Bartolone > ChristopherBartolone at gmail.com > 630-209-5218 > > On Mar 1, 2011, at 11:54 AM, Christopher Bartolone < > christopherbartolone at gmail.com> wrote: > > All fellow developers, > > A friend and I are in the process of developing a web application using > Python, Django, and Jinja2. We need a few hands that can pitch in part time > or as a side job for a percent of ownership. > > The application is essentially a location based event finder. There is a > lot more behind it which we'd like to discuss with you in person. > > The great thing about our project is that advertising will also be location > based and has the capability of becoming very profitable due to the > project's large target audience. > > If you are interested in learning more, please reply or give me a call. > I'll set up a meeting to discuss this with me and my partner. > > Regards, > > Chris Bartolone > > ChristopherBartolone at gmail.com > 630-209-5218 > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The delivery date for the first 2 phases is approximately 60 days from commencement which is expected to be within 2 weeks. To summarize, knowledge of the following is required: Python Django Twisted MongoDB PostgreSQL (negotiable) The work can be performed remotely, but please note that occasional in-person meetings will be required (we'll travel to you). Rate-wise, there is a great deal of flexibility and premium rates are available to candidates who closely meet the requirements and possess a solid understanding of ecommerce system design. For the sake of disclosure, I am the end user, not a recruiter. Interested parties may reach me directly at kgormat /at/ gmail.com. Regards, Kent -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shekay at pobox.com Wed Mar 16 16:36:52 2011 From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 10:36:52 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] permalink for meeting announcements? Message-ID: I am starting to post announcements to a twitteresque work thing, and I'd like to post permalink urls to an announcement on chipy.org rather than chipy.org plainly, since by the time someone clicks it the content I want them to see might be gone. Though I guess I could give a link to the mailing list post. -- sheila From brianherman at gmail.com Wed Mar 16 16:44:27 2011 From: brianherman at gmail.com (Brian Herman) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 10:44:27 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] permalink for meeting announcements? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Why is the front page not like a wiki it looks different. Thanks, Brian Herman brianjherman.com brianherman at acm.org On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 10:36 AM, sheila miguez wrote: > I am starting to post announcements to a twitteresque work thing, and > I'd like to post permalink urls to an announcement on chipy.org rather > than chipy.org plainly, since by the time someone clicks it the > content I want them to see might be gone. > > Though I guess I could give a link to the mailing list post. > > -- > sheila > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brianhray at gmail.com Wed Mar 16 16:57:13 2011 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 10:57:13 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] permalink for meeting announcements? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 10:36 AM, sheila miguez wrote: > I am starting to post announcements to a twitteresque work thing, and > I'd like to post permalink urls to an announcement on chipy.org rather > than chipy.org plainly, since by the time someone clicks it the > content I want them to see might be gone. > > The permalink to the next meeting is: http://chipy.org/meetings/next/ If it has not yet been planned, it will say "We are still working out the details for the next ChiPy meeting." -- Brian Ray -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tottinge at gmail.com Wed Mar 16 21:42:59 2011 From: tottinge at gmail.com (Tim Ottinger) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 15:42:59 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] permalink for meeting announcements? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dudes, we need a google calendar. Location, time, cancellation status, everything there. We can subscribe to it from our phones, and set reminders. So much better than an url for most of us. Tim -- ------------------------------------- http://agileinaflash.com/ http://agileotter.blogspot.com/ http://tottinge.blogsome.com From kenschutte at gmail.com Wed Mar 16 22:19:29 2011 From: kenschutte at gmail.com (Ken Schutte) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 16:19:29 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Recording Thursday's audio talk In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I finally got around to posting these notes/code from last week, http://kenschutte.com/python-audio-demo Ken On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Ken Schutte wrote: > I'll be writing up some slides and some sample code which I can post > online if it's not recorded (or even if it is). > > I'm not sure what I can/should fit in. ?If anyone has any requests on > the topic, let me know by tomorrow. ?I'm thinking of something like, > > - scientific python: numpy and friends > - audio > - FFTs, spectrograms > - some simple filters > > Ken > > > On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: >> That's what I was thinking too ;) >> >> On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Adrian Holovaty wrote: >>> Hey, I'll be at PyCon and am really bummed I'll be missing Ken's audio >>> processing talk. Any chance it can be recorded? >>> >>> Adrian >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Brian Ray wrote: >>>> Chicago Python User Group >>>> ========================= >>>> >>>> This will be one of our best meetings... Presentations range from the >>>> business side of Python to advanced audio processing with Python. >>>> Hope you can make it! >>>> >>>> Facility kindly provided by Sully's house http://www.sullyshouse.com/. >>>> ?We have the upstairs reserved for this event. Full cash bar and >>>> kitchen. A/V provided. Come early and get your food orders. No need to >>>> RSVP. >>>> >>>> (forward this announcement to all interested parties) >>>> >>>> When >>>> ---- >>>> >>>> Thursday, March 10th, 7pm. >>>> >>>> Topics >>>> ------ >>>> >>>> Spothero startup chooses Python >>>> (:30 Thirty Minutes) >>>> By: Mark Lawrence >>>> SpotHero is an online parking application being built which allows >>>> someone to rent out their parking spot to someone when they are not >>>> using it. Conversely, it allows somebody to rent it out temporarily >>>> when they are not using it. This can be for a sporting event, concert, >>>> festival, airport park and ride, etc. We would be willing to let those >>>> interested look at the code at the meeting which is currently being >>>> pushed to github. >>>> >>>> Audio Processing With Python >>>> (:30 Thirty Minutes) >>>> By: Ken Schutte >>>> Advanced Python topic: audio processing, numpy, and spectral analysis. >>>> >>>> ChiPy Website Changes >>>> (:15 Fifteen Minutes) >>>> By: Brian Ray >>>> I quick presentation on the new chipy.org website. >>>> >>>> Location >>>> -------- >>>> >>>> :: >>>> >>>> ?Sully's House Tap Room & Grill >>>> ?1501 North Dayton Street >>>> ?Chicago, IL 60642 >>>> ?(773) 244-1234 >>>> ?Subway: North/Clybourn >>>> >>>> >>>> About the group >>>> --------------- >>>> ChiPy is made up of people of all levels of programming and Python >>>> knowledge. At every meeting we have had both beginning programmers, >>>> people who are just starting to use Python, as well as experienced >>>> Python programmers. Don't be intimidated about coming to a meeting. >>>> >>>> Note that ChiPy is not a formal organization. We collect no dues, >>>> elect no officers, and keep no roster. Signing up for the mailing list >>>> carries no obligation. Nor does showing up at the meetings. Nor, at >>>> least so far, does anything else we have done, although we always >>>> appreciate it when our presenters show up. (They usually do!) >>>> >>>> http://chipy.org >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chicago mailing list >>>> Chicago at python.org >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Carl K >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > From shekay at pobox.com Thu Mar 17 16:18:29 2011 From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 10:18:29 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] permalink for meeting announcements? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: While that would be nice, I still would like a permalink to a specific meeting announcement. If I post somewhere the announcement, the link I provide will not be stale, refer to a different meeting. and it is a nice bit of chipy history for the archaeologists. I'd love a google calendar, because half the time I forget which week it is and then, boom, today is thursday. On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Tim Ottinger wrote: > Dudes, we need a google calendar. > Location, time, cancellation status, everything there. We can > subscribe to it from our phones, and set reminders. So much better > than an url for most of us. > > Tim > > > > > -- > ------------------------------------- > http://agileinaflash.com/ > http://agileotter.blogspot.com/ > http://tottinge.blogsome.com > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- sheila From brianhray at gmail.com Thu Mar 17 17:22:47 2011 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 11:22:47 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Tonight's North Meeting Message-ID: Praxis has kindly offered to provide food / drink. Please RSVP so I can get an accurate count: https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dHVLOTNTU3oxTzJKYjB3RmV4eVZkMEE6MA -- Brian Ray From steder at gmail.com Fri Mar 18 15:06:15 2011 From: steder at gmail.com (Mike Steder) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 09:06:15 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Tonight's North Meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I just wanted to say that this last meeting was very fun and informative and I'm looking forward to next month. I realize it is early to be asking but do we have speakers or topics for the next session? Thanks again to Dan and Dean for presenting and thanks to Praxis for hosting. ~Mike On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > Praxis has kindly offered to provide food / drink. > > Please RSVP so I can get an accurate count: > > ?https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dHVLOTNTU3oxTzJKYjB3RmV4eVZkMEE6MA > > -- > > Brian Ray > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > From brianhray at gmail.com Fri Mar 18 15:12:55 2011 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 09:12:55 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Tonight's North Meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Mike Steder wrote: > I just wanted to say that this last meeting was very fun and > informative and I'm looking forward to next month. > > I realize it is early to be asking but do we have speakers or topics > for the next session? > Too Early.... never. We must start bracing ourselves for the best meeting next month EVER! One note, when talking about meetings we need to be careful to state that which meeting (North or Loop) we are talking about. Also, for that same reason, I try to hold off talking too much about what is going on in the North Meeting around planning of the Loop meeting (The week of). Mike, did you want to present on something next month? -- Brian Ray From dgriff1 at gmail.com Fri Mar 18 15:17:55 2011 From: dgriff1 at gmail.com (Daniel Griffin) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 09:17:55 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Tonight's North Meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If anyone wants to see the code I had its here: https://github.com/dgriff1/zeromq-chipy The examples are taken and modified from http://zguide.zeromq.org/page:all I made the poller non-blocking and generally added a lot of output everywhere to make things clearer. I like the idea of theming meetings, there seemed to be a lot of interest in web frameworks. Dan On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Mike Steder wrote: > I just wanted to say that this last meeting was very fun and > informative and I'm looking forward to next month. > > I realize it is early to be asking but do we have speakers or topics > for the next session? > > Thanks again to Dan and Dean for presenting and thanks to Praxis for > hosting. > > ~Mike > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > > Praxis has kindly offered to provide food / drink. > > > > Please RSVP so I can get an accurate count: > > > > > https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dHVLOTNTU3oxTzJKYjB3RmV4eVZkMEE6MA > > > > -- > > > > Brian Ray > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tathagatadg at gmail.com Fri Mar 18 16:30:41 2011 From: tathagatadg at gmail.com (Tathagata Dasgupta) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 10:30:41 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Tonight's North Meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, Were these talks recorded? @Daniel: Thanks for sharing the code snippets. It would be very nice if the links and contents for both the talks could added to meeting notice page ... gets difficult to dig them out from the inbox at a later time. Voting for a "django with non-relational databases" talk for the next loop metup. Would be great if you can make it beginner friendly on both the aspects ... On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Daniel Griffin wrote: > If anyone wants to see the code I had its > here:?https://github.com/dgriff1/zeromq-chipy > The examples are taken and modified from?http://zguide.zeromq.org/page:all > I made the poller non-blocking and generally added a lot of output > everywhere to make things clearer. > I like the idea of theming meetings, there seemed to be a lot of interest in > web frameworks. > Dan > > On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Mike Steder wrote: >> >> I just wanted to say that this last meeting was very fun and >> informative and I'm looking forward to next month. >> >> I realize it is early to be asking but do we have speakers or topics >> for the next session? >> >> Thanks again to Dan and Dean for presenting and thanks to Praxis for >> hosting. >> >> ~Mike >> >> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >> > Praxis has kindly offered to provide food / drink. >> > >> > Please RSVP so I can get an accurate count: >> > >> > >> > ?https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dHVLOTNTU3oxTzJKYjB3RmV4eVZkMEE6MA >> > >> > -- >> > >> > Brian Ray >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Chicago mailing list >> > Chicago at python.org >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -- Cheers, Tathagata Graduate Student Department of Computer Science University of Illinois, Chicago From carl at personnelware.com Fri Mar 18 16:42:34 2011 From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 10:42:34 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] permalink for meeting announcements? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If the pycon website code base ever gets finished I am hoping to use it to manage meeting stuff, and assuming it can handle multiple events then it should provide the feature you are looking for. Given I am not going to bother trying to use it until I see a trace of "json" in https://github.com/eldarion/pycon/blob/master/pycon_project/apps/schedule/views.py I would not rely on it being used for ChiPy. So here comes the typical open-source reply: patches welcome! Easy solution for now: when the meeting announcement comes out, cut/paste it into a chipy.org wiki page. On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 10:18 AM, sheila miguez wrote: > While that would be nice, I still would like a permalink to a specific > meeting announcement. If I post somewhere the announcement, the link I > provide will not be stale, refer to a different meeting. and it is a > nice bit of chipy history for the archaeologists. > > I'd love a google calendar, because half the time I forget which week > it is and then, boom, today is thursday. > > On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Tim Ottinger wrote: >> Dudes, we need a google calendar. >> Location, time, cancellation status, everything there. We can >> subscribe to it from our phones, and set reminders. So much better >> than an url for most of us. >> >> Tim >> >> >> >> >> -- >> ------------------------------------- >> http://agileinaflash.com/ >> http://agileotter.blogspot.com/ >> http://tottinge.blogsome.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > > > -- > sheila > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- Carl K From carl at personnelware.com Fri Mar 18 16:53:51 2011 From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 10:53:51 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Tonight's North Meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Tathagata Dasgupta wrote: > Hi, > Were these talks recorded? > @Daniel: Thanks for sharing the code snippets. > It would be very nice if the links and contents for both the talks > could added to meeting notice page ... gets difficult to dig them out > from the inbox at a later time. patches welcome! http://chipy.org/meetings/past/ Um... what happened to all the content that used to be there? OK, I am sensing the site is no longer a wiki like thing that people can randomly work on. I have 0.0 clue what's going on. > > Voting for a "django with non-relational databases" talk for the next > loop metup. Would be great if you can make it beginner friendly on > both the aspects ... > > > On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Daniel Griffin wrote: >> If anyone wants to see the code I had its >> here:?https://github.com/dgriff1/zeromq-chipy >> The examples are taken and modified from?http://zguide.zeromq.org/page:all >> I made the poller non-blocking and generally added a lot of output >> everywhere to make things clearer. >> I like the idea of theming meetings, there seemed to be a lot of interest in >> web frameworks. >> Dan >> >> On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Mike Steder wrote: >>> >>> I just wanted to say that this last meeting was very fun and >>> informative and I'm looking forward to next month. >>> >>> I realize it is early to be asking but do we have speakers or topics >>> for the next session? >>> >>> Thanks again to Dan and Dean for presenting and thanks to Praxis for >>> hosting. >>> >>> ~Mike >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >>> > Praxis has kindly offered to provide food / drink. >>> > >>> > Please RSVP so I can get an accurate count: >>> > >>> > >>> > ?https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dHVLOTNTU3oxTzJKYjB3RmV4eVZkMEE6MA >>> > >>> > -- >>> > >>> > Brian Ray >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Chicago mailing list >>> > Chicago at python.org >>> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > > > > -- > Cheers, > Tathagata > Graduate Student > Department of Computer Science > University of Illinois, Chicago > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- Carl K From skip at pobox.com Fri Mar 18 18:23:20 2011 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 12:23:20 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Tonight's North Meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <19843.38152.581828.731561@montanaro.dyndns.org> Mike> I realize it is early to be asking but do we have speakers or Mike> topics for the next session? Would it be okay to make a presentation with the hopes of trying to get people interested in contributing to the subject project? I'm thinking of SpamBayes: http://www.spambayes.org/ I am currently the only more-or-less active developer. ("Active" should probably be in air quotes.) The major stumbling block is that I have no Windows expertise and thus obviously don't use Outlook, which is the majority platform for SpamBayes these days. With Windows 7 64-bit gaining in popularity there are all sorts of bumps in the road for Outlook users, who never seem to be programmers for some reason. I'd really like some help with that part of the system. So, if a blatant pitch here or in the next North meeting is okay, I can try to put together a simple presentation about SpamBayes. Skip From christopherbartolone at gmail.com Wed Mar 16 21:22:53 2011 From: christopherbartolone at gmail.com (Christopher Bartolone) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 15:22:53 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Need Some Help Developing a Web Application In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47571B68-684C-4E8D-943D-071E28004660@gmail.com> To all that have wrote I appreciate your feedback. We currently are teaming up with a web development company to assist with the remaining development. This is necessary for a speedy completion. In the future if we are able to hire I will send out another email to the group. As for funding, that will be the next step. Our funding will be primarily for marketing since the web development has been negotiated as a percentage. I will be looking for investors if anyone knows of any leads please send them my way. Regards, Chris Bartolone ChristopherBartolone at gmail.com 630-209-5218 On Mar 16, 2011, at 1:13 AM, Brian Herman wrote: > Do you have any funding? > Thanks, > Brian Herman > > brianjherman.com > brianherman at acm.org > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Christopher Bartolone wrote: > Hey all, > > Not much for responses yet and we are getting closer to a drop dead date. The sooner you can partner with us the better your percentage will be. Come join us to create the new Chicago based start up company, the next Groupon. I will be posting the site as soon as we have a working copy. I appreciate any feedback. Thanks all! > > Regards, > > Chris Bartolone > ChristopherBartolone at gmail.com > 630-209-5218 > > On Mar 1, 2011, at 11:54 AM, Christopher Bartolone wrote: > >> All fellow developers, >> >> A friend and I are in the process of developing a web application using Python, Django, and Jinja2. We need a few hands that can pitch in part time or as a side job for a percent of ownership. >> >> The application is essentially a location based event finder. There is a lot more behind it which we'd like to discuss with you in person. >> >> The great thing about our project is that advertising will also be location based and has the capability of becoming very profitable due to the project's large target audience. >> >> If you are interested in learning more, please reply or give me a call. I'll set up a meeting to discuss this with me and my partner. >> >> Regards, >> >> Chris Bartolone >> ChristopherBartolone at gmail.com >> 630-209-5218 > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From szybalski at gmail.com Mon Mar 21 04:19:28 2011 From: szybalski at gmail.com (Lukasz Szybalski) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 22:19:28 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Fwd: Internship/Part Time Job - IT/Programmer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: *Internship/Part **T**ime **J**ob * *at** Unique Insurance Company* Job Description: IT/Programmer Unique Insurance Company is looking for a IT/Programmer. At Unique Insurance we import thousands of insurance policies a month, we maintain and develop new features in our current insurance software, we build reports to better understand our business, we utilize open-source software to provide additional features, and bridge the gap of what users, clients, and agents expect from an insurance company. Job duties will range from help desk, setting up new machines, testing new software functionality, gathering software requirements, create stored procedures. We are looking for a person that is: smart, multitasking, enjoys working with a lot of different software and is able to program, and wants start applying its knowledge in a real life applications. Candidates should be a ?Computer Science? or ?Math and Computer Science? major or recent graduate. Candidate should know how to programming and have at least 6 months previous programming experience. Software you should be familiar with: - parse xml/csv/flat files, read and write to a database - python experience preferred ( sqlalchemy, familiar with creating web framework, xml/csv parsing) - Demonstrate a general proficiency with Linux operating systems, being able to use it on a daily basis. - Familiar with Windows XP/7 and Windows Server - Able to understand database structure. - Basic economics/insurance understanding a plus. This is an Internship opportunity/part time job. We can accommodate a changing schedule. Ability to work 40 hours during non-school weeks and at least 16 hours during the school week. Hourly wage: $15 an hour. Contact: Please email your resume to lszybalski at uniqueinsuranceco.com, IT Manager: Lucas Szybalski, 773-299-7527 Unique Insurance, 4245 N. Knox Ave Chicago IL, 60641 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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At Unique > Insurance we import thousands of insurance policies a month, we maintain and > develop new features in our current insurance software, we build reports to > better understand our business, we utilize open-source software to provide > additional features, and bridge the gap of what users, clients, and agents > expect from an insurance company. > > Job duties will range from help desk, setting up new machines, testing > new software functionality, gathering software requirements, create stored > procedures. We are looking for a person that is: smart, multitasking, enjoys > working with a lot of different software and is able to program, and wants > start applying its knowledge in a real life applications. > > Candidates should be a ?Computer Science? or ?Math and Computer Science? > major or recent graduate. Candidate should know how to programming and have > at least 6 months previous programming experience. > > Software you should be familiar with: > > - > > parse xml/csv/flat files, read and write to a database > - > > python experience preferred ( sqlalchemy, familiar with creating web > framework, xml/csv parsing) > - > > Demonstrate a general proficiency with Linux operating systems, being > able to use it on a daily basis. > - > > Familiar with Windows XP/7 and Windows Server > - > > Able to understand database structure. > - > > Basic economics/insurance understanding a plus. > > This is an Internship opportunity/part time job. We can accommodate a > changing schedule. Ability to work 40 hours during non-school weeks and at > least 16 hours during the school week. Hourly wage: $15 an hour. > > > Contact: > > Please email your resume to lszybalski at uniqueinsuranceco.com, > IT Manager: Lucas Szybalski, 773-299-7527 > > Unique Insurance, > 4245 N. 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Candidate should know how to programming and have > at least 6 months previous programming experience. > > parse xml/csv/flat files, read and write to a database > > python experience preferred ( sqlalchemy, familiar with creating web > framework, xml/csv parsing) day 1: parse xml/csv day 2: creating web framework, day 3: xml/csv parsing -- Carl K From brianherman at gmail.com Mon Mar 21 06:40:13 2011 From: brianherman at gmail.com (Brian Herman) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 00:40:13 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Fwd: Internship/Part Time Job - IT/Programmer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: day4: ??? day5: Profit !!! Thanks, Brian Herman brianjherman.com brianherman at acm.org On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 11:53 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: > On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 10:19 PM, Lukasz Szybalski > wrote: > > > > Internship/Part Time Job > > > Candidates should be a ?Computer Science? or ?Math and Computer Science? > > major or recent graduate. Candidate should know how to programming and > have > > at least 6 months previous programming experience. > > > > > parse xml/csv/flat files, read and write to a database > > > > python experience preferred ( sqlalchemy, familiar with creating web > > framework, xml/csv parsing) > > day 1: parse xml/csv > day 2: creating web framework, > day 3: xml/csv parsing > > -- > Carl K > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Tim.Norman at dreamworks.com Mon Mar 21 17:03:05 2011 From: Tim.Norman at dreamworks.com (Norman, Tim) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 09:03:05 -0700 Subject: [Chicago] Looking for a well designed yet sizable project to read In-Reply-To: <87r5a83tsc.fsf@dustycloud.org> References: <87r5a83tsc.fsf@dustycloud.org> Message-ID: <57E24B0263A3594EB66EEABC419CA40742AB4A7EA6@EXCLUSGLD1.win.dreamworks.com> Hello, all. Dreamworks Animation is looking for Production/Pipeline Engineers to help build our production software. If you are a Python and/or C++ Developer interested in working at either our Redwood City or Glendale, CAcampus, send your resume to: tim.norman at dreamworks.com. Thanks Tim- Tim Norman Dreamworks Animation Ph 818.695 7801 www.dreamworks.com From Tim.Norman at dreamworks.com Mon Mar 21 18:49:41 2011 From: Tim.Norman at dreamworks.com (Norman, Tim) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 10:49:41 -0700 Subject: [Chicago] Looking for a well designed yet sizable project to read In-Reply-To: <57E24B0263A3594EB66EEABC419CA40742AB4A7EAD@EXCLUSGLD1.win.dreamworks.com> References: <87r5a83tsc.fsf@dustycloud.org> <57E24B0263A3594EB66EEABC419CA40742AB4A7EA6@EXCLUSGLD1.win.dreamworks.com> <57E24B0263A3594EB66EEABC419CA40742AB4A7EAD@EXCLUSGLD1.win.dreamworks.com> Message-ID: <57E24B0263A3594EB66EEABC419CA40742ABF8846D@EXCLUSGLD1.win.dreamworks.com> Dear ChiPy, Please see below email from Brian, the ChiPy Organizer. I was not aware it was against the rules to send job opportunities to the user group. It will make sure Dreamworks Animation does not use the ChiPy email address. And, thanks Brian, for not publicly scorning me as you mentioned in your email. :) Thanks all and have a great year. Tim- Tim Norman Dreamworks Animation Ph 818.695 7801 www.dreamworks.com ________________________________ From: Norman, Tim Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 10:42 AM To: 'Brian Ray' Subject: RE: [Chicago] Looking for a well designed yet sizable project to read Brian, It never occurred to me that it would be considered poor judgment to offer folks a potential position at a great company. We post all over the world and actively relocate nationally and internationally. However, I did know it was against the rules. I would not want to violate the group's rules and I do apologize. I will post a retraction. Tim- Tim Norman Dreamworks Animation Ph 818.695 7801 www.dreamworks.com ________________________________ From: Brian Ray [mailto:brianhray at gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 10:26 AM To: Norman, Tim Subject: Re: [Chicago] Looking for a well designed yet sizable project to read Tim: It is poor taste and poor judgment to post to a Chicago based user group a job that will require our members to move out of Chicago. IMHO, it reflects poorly on your judgment and on dreamworks as a whole. Not to memtion it is against our rules. Consider posting an apology to prevent me from publicly scorning you--often times recruiters need reminded of the rules. If it were a job in Chicago or where someone could work remotely, I think the posting would have been well accepted. Regards, Brian ChiPy Organizer On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Norman, Tim > wrote: Hello, all. Dreamworks Animation is looking for Production/Pipeline Engineers to help build our production software. If you are a Python and/or C++ Developer interested in working at either our Redwood City or Glendale, CAcampus, send your resume to: tim.norman at dreamworks.com. Thanks Tim- Tim Norman Dreamworks Animation Ph 818.695 7801 www.dreamworks.com _______________________________________________ Chicago mailing list Chicago at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -- Brian Ray (773) 669-7717 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chris.mcavoy at gmail.com Mon Mar 21 19:01:40 2011 From: chris.mcavoy at gmail.com (Chris McAvoy) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 13:01:40 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Threadless loves Python Message-ID: Hey All, We're moving a bunch of our legacy PHP stuff to Django, and need a hand. We have a job listed that's squarely in the Python realm. http://www.threadless.com/jobs has details. <3 Chris -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brianherman at gmail.com Mon Mar 21 19:03:51 2011 From: brianherman at gmail.com (Brian Herman) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 13:03:51 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Threadless loves Python In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: More details Education - BS in Computer Science, related degree, or equivalent experience Experience - 3 to 5 years development, testing and implementation experience - Examples of launched projects - Experience writing scalable and efficient code - Hands-on experience refactoring production code, experience with refactoring trade-offs / phasing - Specific scaling experience (sharding, caching, etc.) - Experience with i18n, REST APIs, memcached - Experience developing social applications - Mixture of web development experience - front-end, back-end, data access Knowledge - Knowledge of design patterns and object-oriented experience, knowledge / practical use of OO frameworks - Excellent knowledge of programming languages - Working knowledge of Python and PHP, with a healthy dose of Django for flavor - Love of MySQL Professional Skills - Solid web presence - Speaking experience - Love of the written word - Thanks, Brian Herman brianjherman.com brianherman at acm.org On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Chris McAvoy wrote: > Hey All, > > We're moving a bunch of our legacy PHP stuff to Django, and need a hand. > We have a job listed that's squarely in the Python realm. > http://www.threadless.com/jobs has details. > > <3 > Chris > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chris.mcavoy at gmail.com Mon Mar 21 19:06:26 2011 From: chris.mcavoy at gmail.com (Chris McAvoy) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 13:06:26 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Looking for a well designed yet sizable project to read In-Reply-To: <57E24B0263A3594EB66EEABC419CA40742ABF8846D@EXCLUSGLD1.win.dreamworks.com> References: <87r5a83tsc.fsf@dustycloud.org> <57E24B0263A3594EB66EEABC419CA40742AB4A7EA6@EXCLUSGLD1.win.dreamworks.com> <57E24B0263A3594EB66EEABC419CA40742AB4A7EAD@EXCLUSGLD1.win.dreamworks.com> <57E24B0263A3594EB66EEABC419CA40742ABF8846D@EXCLUSGLD1.win.dreamworks.com> Message-ID: Where are our rules? We have rules? On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Norman, Tim wrote: > Dear ChiPy, > > > > Please see below email from Brian, the ChiPy Organizer. I was not aware it > was against the rules to send job opportunities to the user group. It will > make sure Dreamworks Animation does not use the ChiPy email address. And, > thanks Brian, for not publicly scorning me as you mentioned in your email. > J > > > Thanks all and have a great year. > > > > Tim- > > > > > > Tim Norman > > Dreamworks Animation > > Ph 818.695 7801 > > www.dreamworks.com > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Norman, Tim > *Sent:* Monday, March 21, 2011 10:42 AM > *To:* 'Brian Ray' > *Subject:* RE: [Chicago] Looking for a well designed yet sizable project > to read > > > > Brian, > > > > It never occurred to me that it would be considered poor judgment to offer > folks a potential position at a great company. We post all over the world > and actively relocate nationally and internationally. > > > > However, I did know it was against the rules. I would not want to violate > the group?s rules and I do apologize. > > > > I will post a retraction. > > > Tim- > > > > > > > > Tim Norman > > Dreamworks Animation > > Ph 818.695 7801 > > www.dreamworks.com > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Brian Ray [mailto:brianhray at gmail.com] > *Sent:* Monday, March 21, 2011 10:26 AM > *To:* Norman, Tim > *Subject:* Re: [Chicago] Looking for a well designed yet sizable project > to read > > > > Tim: > > It is poor taste and poor judgment to post to a Chicago based user group a > job that will require our members to move out of Chicago. IMHO, it reflects > poorly on your judgment and on dreamworks as a whole. Not to memtion it is > against our rules. Consider posting an apology to prevent me from publicly > scorning you--often times recruiters need reminded of the rules. > > If it were a job in Chicago or where someone could work remotely, I think > the posting would have been well accepted. > > Regards, > > Brian > ChiPy Organizer > > On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Norman, Tim > wrote: > > Hello, all. > > Dreamworks Animation is looking for Production/Pipeline Engineers to help > build our production software. > > If you are a Python and/or C++ Developer interested in working at either > our Redwood City or Glendale, CAcampus, send your resume to: > > tim.norman at dreamworks.com. > > Thanks > > Tim- > > > > Tim Norman > Dreamworks Animation > Ph 818.695 7801 > www.dreamworks.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > -- > > Brian Ray > > (773) 669-7717 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skip at pobox.com Mon Mar 21 19:15:04 2011 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 13:15:04 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Looking for a well designed yet sizable project to read In-Reply-To: References: <87r5a83tsc.fsf@dustycloud.org> <57E24B0263A3594EB66EEABC419CA40742AB4A7EA6@EXCLUSGLD1.win.dreamworks.com> <57E24B0263A3594EB66EEABC419CA40742AB4A7EAD@EXCLUSGLD1.win.dreamworks.com> <57E24B0263A3594EB66EEABC419CA40742ABF8846D@EXCLUSGLD1.win.dreamworks.com> Message-ID: <19847.38312.734202.694063@montanaro.dyndns.org> Chris> Where are our rules? We have rules? I don't know that we have rules, per se. When I see a posting held for moderation which looks like a job posting not geographically related to the Chicago area, I reject it and nudge the poster in the direction of the Python Job Board (http://www.python.org/community/jobs/). If some geographically inappropriate postings slip through, that's either because the poster is subscribed (and the moderators don't see their posts) or maybe because of a moderator brain freeze (on my part, at least). That said, if people are fine with job postings outside the Chicago metro area, or don't want to see job postings at all, I'm happy to change the moderation settings inside my head to suit. Skip From brianhray at gmail.com Mon Mar 21 19:18:46 2011 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 13:18:46 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Looking for a well designed yet sizable project to read In-Reply-To: <19847.38312.734202.694063@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <87r5a83tsc.fsf@dustycloud.org> <57E24B0263A3594EB66EEABC419CA40742AB4A7EA6@EXCLUSGLD1.win.dreamworks.com> <57E24B0263A3594EB66EEABC419CA40742AB4A7EAD@EXCLUSGLD1.win.dreamworks.com> <57E24B0263A3594EB66EEABC419CA40742ABF8846D@EXCLUSGLD1.win.dreamworks.com> <19847.38312.734202.694063@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: No worries, Tim. Skip, We also discussed not allowing recrieters to post on our user list at all. However, we have some recruiters who were willing to step up in recent years and support our meetings finically. They are in Chicago. Generally, it does not seem appropriate to post jobs on the ChiPy list that: * Are not in Chicago (duh) * and are not Python jobs (duh**2) Regards, Brian On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 1:15 PM, wrote: > > ? ?Chris> Where are our rules? ?We have rules? > > I don't know that we have rules, per se. ?When I see a posting held for > moderation which looks like a job posting not geographically related to the > Chicago area, I reject it and nudge the poster in the direction of the > Python Job Board (http://www.python.org/community/jobs/). ?If some > geographically inappropriate postings slip through, that's either because > the poster is subscribed (and the moderators don't see their posts) or maybe > because of a moderator brain freeze (on my part, at least). > > That said, if people are fine with job postings outside the Chicago metro > area, or don't want to see job postings at all, I'm happy to change the > moderation settings inside my head to suit. > > Skip > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- Brian Ray (773) 669-7717 From brianhray at gmail.com Mon Mar 21 19:23:21 2011 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 13:23:21 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] news-oriented ChiPy meeting April 14th Chicago Tribune Message-ID: Group, the Chicago Tribune crew has offered a meeting location and topic for our next downtown meeting, April 14th. They had some presentations on hacker journalism stuff at PyCon and would like to stick with this topic. We had one previous meeting there which was a huge success. This may be the best meeting ever. Your thoughts? Regards, Brian -- Brian Ray From lifestyleignition at gmail.com Mon Mar 21 19:29:53 2011 From: lifestyleignition at gmail.com (Mark Lawrence) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 13:29:53 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] news-oriented ChiPy meeting April 14th Chicago Tribune In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sounds awesome Brian! Jeremy and I will be there! On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > Group, the Chicago Tribune crew has offered a meeting location and > topic for our next downtown meeting, April 14th. > > They had some presentations on hacker journalism stuff at PyCon and > would like to stick with this topic. > > We had one previous meeting there which was a huge success. This may > be the best meeting ever. Your thoughts? > > Regards, Brian > > -- > > Brian Ray > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- Mark Lawrence http://www.lifestyleignition.com Co-Founder SpotHero Inc. http://spothero.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, Brian From Tim.Norman at dreamworks.com Mon Mar 21 19:49:37 2011 From: Tim.Norman at dreamworks.com (Norman, Tim) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 11:49:37 -0700 Subject: [Chicago] Looking for a well designed yet sizable project to read In-Reply-To: References: <87r5a83tsc.fsf@dustycloud.org> <57E24B0263A3594EB66EEABC419CA40742AB4A7EA6@EXCLUSGLD1.win.dreamworks.com> <57E24B0263A3594EB66EEABC419CA40742AB4A7EAD@EXCLUSGLD1.win.dreamworks.com> <57E24B0263A3594EB66EEABC419CA40742ABF8846D@EXCLUSGLD1.win.dreamworks.com> <19847.38312.734202.694063@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <57E24B0263A3594EB66EEABC419CA40742ABF8846F@EXCLUSGLD1.win.dreamworks.com> Sorry, all. Did not mean to create work for anyone. Tim- Tim Norman Dreamworks Animation Ph 818.695 7801 www.dreamworks.com -----Original Message----- From: Brian Ray [mailto:brianhray at gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 11:19 AM To: skip at pobox.com; Norman, Tim Cc: The Chicago Python Users Group Subject: Re: [Chicago] Looking for a well designed yet sizable project to read No worries, Tim. Skip, We also discussed not allowing recrieters to post on our user list at all. However, we have some recruiters who were willing to step up in recent years and support our meetings finically. They are in Chicago. Generally, it does not seem appropriate to post jobs on the ChiPy list that: * Are not in Chicago (duh) * and are not Python jobs (duh**2) Regards, Brian On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 1:15 PM, wrote: > > ? ?Chris> Where are our rules? ?We have rules? > > I don't know that we have rules, per se. ?When I see a posting held for > moderation which looks like a job posting not geographically related to the > Chicago area, I reject it and nudge the poster in the direction of the > Python Job Board (http://www.python.org/community/jobs/). ?If some > geographically inappropriate postings slip through, that's either because > the poster is subscribed (and the moderators don't see their posts) or maybe > because of a moderator brain freeze (on my part, at least). > > That said, if people are fine with job postings outside the Chicago metro > area, or don't want to see job postings at all, I'm happy to change the > moderation settings inside my head to suit. > > Skip > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- Brian Ray (773) 669-7717 From m-rich at northwestern.edu Mon Mar 21 20:03:38 2011 From: m-rich at northwestern.edu (Matthew T Rich) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 14:03:38 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] news-oriented ChiPy meeting April 14th Chicago Tribune In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8469DB4F-D669-48AB-B24C-290FE6FA298C@northwestern.edu> +1 On Mar 21, 2011, at 1:23 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > Group, the Chicago Tribune crew has offered a meeting location and > topic for our next downtown meeting, April 14th. > > They had some presentations on hacker journalism stuff at PyCon and > would like to stick with this topic. > > We had one previous meeting there which was a huge success. This may > be the best meeting ever. Your thoughts? > > Regards, Brian > > -- > > Brian Ray > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -- Matthew Rich Senior Web Application Developer Northwestern University School of Education and Social Policy Annenberg Hall, Room 249 +1 847 467 2819 m-rich at northwestern.edu From danieltpeters at gmail.com Mon Mar 21 20:45:09 2011 From: danieltpeters at gmail.com (Daniel Peters) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 14:45:09 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] news-oriented ChiPy meetin April 14th Chicago Tribune Message-ID: Huge +1 On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 2:30 PM, wrote: > Send Chicago mailing list submissions to > chicago at python.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > chicago-request at python.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > chicago-owner at python.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Chicago digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Looking for a well designed yet sizable project to read > (Brian Ray) > 2. news-oriented ChiPy meeting April 14th Chicago Tribune (Brian Ray) > 3. Re: news-oriented ChiPy meeting April 14th Chicago Tribune > (Mark Lawrence) > 4. Re: Looking for a well designed yet sizable project to read > (Brian Ray) > 5. Re: Looking for a well designed yet sizable project to read > (Norman, Tim) > 6. Re: news-oriented ChiPy meeting April 14th Chicago Tribune > (Matthew T Rich) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 13:18:46 -0500 > From: Brian Ray > To: skip at pobox.com, "Norman, Tim" > Cc: The Chicago Python Users Group > Subject: Re: [Chicago] Looking for a well designed yet sizable project > to read > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > No worries, Tim. > > Skip, We also discussed not allowing recrieters to post on our user > list at all. However, we have some recruiters who were willing to step > up in recent years and support our meetings finically. They are in > Chicago. > > Generally, it does not seem appropriate to post jobs on the ChiPy list > that: > > * Are not in Chicago (duh) > * and are not Python jobs (duh**2) > > Regards, Brian > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 1:15 PM, wrote: > > > > ? ?Chris> Where are our rules? ?We have rules? > > > > I don't know that we have rules, per se. ?When I see a posting held for > > moderation which looks like a job posting not geographically related to > the > > Chicago area, I reject it and nudge the poster in the direction of the > > Python Job Board (http://www.python.org/community/jobs/). ?If some > > geographically inappropriate postings slip through, that's either because > > the poster is subscribed (and the moderators don't see their posts) or > maybe > > because of a moderator brain freeze (on my part, at least). > > > > That said, if people are fine with job postings outside the Chicago metro > > area, or don't want to see job postings at all, I'm happy to change the > > moderation settings inside my head to suit. > > > > Skip > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > > -- > > Brian Ray > (773) 669-7717 > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 13:23:21 -0500 > From: Brian Ray > To: The Chicago Python Users Group > Subject: [Chicago] news-oriented ChiPy meeting April 14th Chicago > Tribune > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Group, the Chicago Tribune crew has offered a meeting location and > topic for our next downtown meeting, April 14th. > > They had some presentations on hacker journalism stuff at PyCon and > would like to stick with this topic. > > We had one previous meeting there which was a huge success. This may > be the best meeting ever. Your thoughts? > > Regards, Brian > > -- > > Brian Ray > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 13:29:53 -0500 > From: Mark Lawrence > To: The Chicago Python Users Group > Subject: Re: [Chicago] news-oriented ChiPy meeting April 14th Chicago > Tribune > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Sounds awesome Brian! Jeremy and I will be there! > > On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > > > Group, the Chicago Tribune crew has offered a meeting location and > > topic for our next downtown meeting, April 14th. > > > > They had some presentations on hacker journalism stuff at PyCon and > > would like to stick with this topic. > > > > We had one previous meeting there which was a huge success. This may > > be the best meeting ever. Your thoughts? > > > > Regards, Brian > > > > -- > > > > Brian Ray > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > > -- > Mark Lawrence > http://www.lifestyleignition.com > Co-Founder SpotHero Inc. > http://spothero.com > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/chicago/attachments/20110321/48d8357d/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 13:53:46 -0500 > From: Brian Ray > To: The Chicago Python Users Group > Subject: Re: [Chicago] Looking for a well designed yet sizable project > to read > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Chris McAvoy > wrote: > > Where are our rules? > > > > We have rules? > > > > The other rule is no PERL presentations, unless your name is Chris McAvoy! > > Oh, and btw, this thread is sooo off topic. Nonetheless, I can vouch > that threadless (your job posting) is in Chicago, has hosted some of > the best ChiPy meetings (at the old location), and has a strong > current/former list of well respected staff. > > Regards, Brian > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 11:49:37 -0700 > From: "Norman, Tim" > To: "'Brian Ray'" , "'skip at pobox.com'" > > Cc: 'The Chicago Python Users Group' > Subject: Re: [Chicago] Looking for a well designed yet sizable project > to read > Message-ID: > < > 57E24B0263A3594EB66EEABC419CA40742ABF8846F at EXCLUSGLD1.win.dreamworks.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Sorry, all. Did not mean to create work for anyone. > > Tim- > > > > Tim Norman > Dreamworks Animation > Ph 818.695 7801 > www.dreamworks.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Ray [mailto:brianhray at gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 11:19 AM > To: skip at pobox.com; Norman, Tim > Cc: The Chicago Python Users Group > Subject: Re: [Chicago] Looking for a well designed yet sizable project to > read > > No worries, Tim. > > Skip, We also discussed not allowing recrieters to post on our user > list at all. However, we have some recruiters who were willing to step > up in recent years and support our meetings finically. They are in > Chicago. > > Generally, it does not seem appropriate to post jobs on the ChiPy list > that: > > * Are not in Chicago (duh) > * and are not Python jobs (duh**2) > > Regards, Brian > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 1:15 PM, wrote: > > > > ? ?Chris> Where are our rules? ?We have rules? > > > > I don't know that we have rules, per se. ?When I see a posting held for > > moderation which looks like a job posting not geographically related to > the > > Chicago area, I reject it and nudge the poster in the direction of the > > Python Job Board (http://www.python.org/community/jobs/). ?If some > > geographically inappropriate postings slip through, that's either because > > the poster is subscribed (and the moderators don't see their posts) or > maybe > > because of a moderator brain freeze (on my part, at least). > > > > That said, if people are fine with job postings outside the Chicago metro > > area, or don't want to see job postings at all, I'm happy to change the > > moderation settings inside my head to suit. > > > > Skip > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > > -- > > Brian Ray > (773) 669-7717 > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 14:03:38 -0500 > From: Matthew T Rich > To: The Chicago Python Users Group > Subject: Re: [Chicago] news-oriented ChiPy meeting April 14th Chicago > Tribune > Message-ID: <8469DB4F-D669-48AB-B24C-290FE6FA298C at northwestern.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > +1 > > On Mar 21, 2011, at 1:23 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > > > Group, the Chicago Tribune crew has offered a meeting location and > > topic for our next downtown meeting, April 14th. > > > > They had some presentations on hacker journalism stuff at PyCon and > > would like to stick with this topic. > > > > We had one previous meeting there which was a huge success. This may > > be the best meeting ever. Your thoughts? > > > > Regards, Brian > > > > -- > > > > Brian Ray > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -- > Matthew Rich > Senior Web Application Developer > Northwestern University > School of Education and Social Policy > Annenberg Hall, Room 249 > +1 847 467 2819 > m-rich at northwestern.edu > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > End of Chicago Digest, Vol 67, Issue 31 > *************************************** > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From jason at hostedlabs.com Tue Mar 22 15:07:39 2011 From: jason at hostedlabs.com (Jason Rexilius) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 09:07:39 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Dedicated Server Hosting Recommendations? In-Reply-To: <005601cbe89a$24c06fb0$6e414f10$@gmail.com> References: <005601cbe89a$24c06fb0$6e414f10$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4D88AD2B.8010101@hostedlabs.com> I've used RealNets.com for a number of years. Very inexpensive, datacenter is on Jackson. Not the greatest bandwidth but just fine for most needs. ServerCentral is pricier, but higher quality. On 3/22/11 9:05 AM, Malcolm Newsome wrote: > Hey ChiPy, > > I?m on the hunt for the ?best? price/performance for dedicated > (non-managed) server hosting. Does anyone have any recommendations? > > Something with specs similar to this will do just fine, but obviously > looking to get the most bang for my buck. > > * OS: Linux CentOS > * CPU: Intel Core? 2 Duo - 2.66 GHz > * RAM: 4 GB > * Storage: 2 x 300 GB hard drives > * Bandwidth: 1,500 GB per month > > > Also, does anyone have experience using dedicated servers overseas for > hosting? Is this something I should consider or absolutely stay away > from (given that most traffic will be coming from the US)? > > Thanks! > > Malcolm > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago From steder at gmail.com Tue Mar 22 15:24:09 2011 From: steder at gmail.com (Mike Steder) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 09:24:09 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Dedicated Server Hosting Recommendations? In-Reply-To: <4D88AD2B.8010101@hostedlabs.com> References: <005601cbe89a$24c06fb0$6e414f10$@gmail.com> <4D88AD2B.8010101@hostedlabs.com> Message-ID: RealNet's looks like managed hosting? Was I missing something on their site? It is cool that it's located in Chicago though. Anyway, Malcolm you looked into AWS? A large instance with the following specs: Large Instance 7.5 GB memory 4 EC2 Compute Units (2 virtual cores with 2 EC2 Compute Units each) 850 GB instance storage 64-bit platform I/O Performance: High API name: m1.large runs about $90 a month. Of course, I suspect you don't need a machine that beefy for just experimenting and testing. What are you looking to host on a box like that? I'm only asking because you can save quite a bit a month by choosing a smaller machine and if you're just looking to host a simple web app in Python you can probably get by on less. The cool thing about Amazon though is that you can scale up and down pretty easily without a huge monthly commitment if that's not what you want. For instance, you could pay the $0.68 cents an hour to run that large instance and experiment and test with it and just shut it down when you aren't using it. ~Mike On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Jason Rexilius wrote: > I've used RealNets.com for a number of years. Very inexpensive, datacenter > is on Jackson. ?Not the greatest bandwidth but just fine for most needs. > > ServerCentral is pricier, but higher quality. > > > > > > On 3/22/11 9:05 AM, Malcolm Newsome wrote: >> >> Hey ChiPy, >> >> I?m on the hunt for the ?best? price/performance for dedicated >> (non-managed) server hosting. Does anyone have any recommendations? >> >> Something with specs similar to this will do just fine, but obviously >> looking to get the most bang for my buck. >> >> ? ?* OS: Linux CentOS >> ? ?* CPU: Intel Core? 2 Duo - 2.66 GHz >> ? ?* RAM: 4 GB >> ? ?* Storage: 2 x 300 GB hard drives >> ? ?* Bandwidth: 1,500 GB per month >> >> >> Also, does anyone have experience using dedicated servers overseas for >> hosting? Is this something I should consider or absolutely stay away >> from (given that most traffic will be coming from the US)? >> >> Thanks! >> >> Malcolm >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > From lmatteis at gmail.com Tue Mar 22 15:32:53 2011 From: lmatteis at gmail.com (Luca Matteis) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 15:32:53 +0100 Subject: [Chicago] Dedicated Server Hosting Recommendations? In-Reply-To: References: <005601cbe89a$24c06fb0$6e414f10$@gmail.com> <4D88AD2B.8010101@hostedlabs.com> Message-ID: You might want to take a look at Google AppEngine if you're starting a project from scratch. It leverages development standards and totally supports Python. Plus you don't have to worry about maintenance - you just pay for what you use. My team has just started using it and we feel like this is totally the future. Luca On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Mike Steder wrote: > RealNet's looks like managed hosting? ?Was I missing something on > their site? ?It is cool that it's located in Chicago though. > > Anyway, Malcolm you looked into AWS? > > A large instance with the following specs: > > Large Instance > > 7.5 GB memory > 4 EC2 Compute Units (2 virtual cores with 2 EC2 Compute Units each) > 850 GB instance storage > 64-bit platform > I/O Performance: High > API name: m1.large > > runs about $90 a month. > > Of course, I suspect you don't need a machine that beefy for just > experimenting and testing. ?What are you looking to host on a box like > that? ?I'm only asking because you can save quite a bit a month by > choosing a smaller machine and if you're just looking to host a simple > web app in Python you can probably get by on less. ?The cool thing > about Amazon though is that you can scale up and down pretty easily > without a huge monthly commitment if that's not what you want. ?For > instance, you could pay the $0.68 cents an hour to run that large > instance and experiment and test with it and just shut it down when > you aren't using it. > > ~Mike > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Jason Rexilius wrote: >> I've used RealNets.com for a number of years. Very inexpensive, datacenter >> is on Jackson. ?Not the greatest bandwidth but just fine for most needs. >> >> ServerCentral is pricier, but higher quality. >> >> >> >> >> >> On 3/22/11 9:05 AM, Malcolm Newsome wrote: >>> >>> Hey ChiPy, >>> >>> I?m on the hunt for the ?best? price/performance for dedicated >>> (non-managed) server hosting. Does anyone have any recommendations? >>> >>> Something with specs similar to this will do just fine, but obviously >>> looking to get the most bang for my buck. >>> >>> ? ?* OS: Linux CentOS >>> ? ?* CPU: Intel Core? 2 Duo - 2.66 GHz >>> ? ?* RAM: 4 GB >>> ? ?* Storage: 2 x 300 GB hard drives >>> ? ?* Bandwidth: 1,500 GB per month >>> >>> >>> Also, does anyone have experience using dedicated servers overseas for >>> hosting? Is this something I should consider or absolutely stay away >>> from (given that most traffic will be coming from the US)? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Malcolm >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > From steder at gmail.com Tue Mar 22 15:48:49 2011 From: steder at gmail.com (Mike Steder) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 09:48:49 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Dedicated Server Hosting Recommendations? In-Reply-To: References: <005601cbe89a$24c06fb0$6e414f10$@gmail.com> <4D88AD2B.8010101@hostedlabs.com> Message-ID: AppEngine is definitely cool tech but the downside of it is that it's also very opinionated. That is, as a platform-as-a-service provider it places some design constraints on you that you may find frustrating rather than helpful. Obviously, ymmv. The nice thing about infrastructure services like AWS (or maybe Windows Azure if you're more interested in IronPython?) is that you can do just about anything you like with those machines. ~Mike On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Luca Matteis wrote: > You might want to take a look at Google AppEngine if you're starting a > project from scratch. It leverages development standards and totally > supports Python. Plus you don't have to worry about maintenance - you > just pay for what you use. > > My team has just started using it and we feel like this is totally the future. > > Luca > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Mike Steder wrote: >> RealNet's looks like managed hosting? ?Was I missing something on >> their site? ?It is cool that it's located in Chicago though. >> >> Anyway, Malcolm you looked into AWS? >> >> A large instance with the following specs: >> >> Large Instance >> >> 7.5 GB memory >> 4 EC2 Compute Units (2 virtual cores with 2 EC2 Compute Units each) >> 850 GB instance storage >> 64-bit platform >> I/O Performance: High >> API name: m1.large >> >> runs about $90 a month. >> >> Of course, I suspect you don't need a machine that beefy for just >> experimenting and testing. ?What are you looking to host on a box like >> that? ?I'm only asking because you can save quite a bit a month by >> choosing a smaller machine and if you're just looking to host a simple >> web app in Python you can probably get by on less. ?The cool thing >> about Amazon though is that you can scale up and down pretty easily >> without a huge monthly commitment if that's not what you want. ?For >> instance, you could pay the $0.68 cents an hour to run that large >> instance and experiment and test with it and just shut it down when >> you aren't using it. >> >> ~Mike >> >> On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Jason Rexilius wrote: >>> I've used RealNets.com for a number of years. Very inexpensive, datacenter >>> is on Jackson. ?Not the greatest bandwidth but just fine for most needs. >>> >>> ServerCentral is pricier, but higher quality. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 3/22/11 9:05 AM, Malcolm Newsome wrote: >>>> >>>> Hey ChiPy, >>>> >>>> I?m on the hunt for the ?best? price/performance for dedicated >>>> (non-managed) server hosting. Does anyone have any recommendations? >>>> >>>> Something with specs similar to this will do just fine, but obviously >>>> looking to get the most bang for my buck. >>>> >>>> ? ?* OS: Linux CentOS >>>> ? ?* CPU: Intel Core? 2 Duo - 2.66 GHz >>>> ? ?* RAM: 4 GB >>>> ? ?* Storage: 2 x 300 GB hard drives >>>> ? ?* Bandwidth: 1,500 GB per month >>>> >>>> >>>> Also, does anyone have experience using dedicated servers overseas for >>>> hosting? Is this something I should consider or absolutely stay away >>>> from (given that most traffic will be coming from the US)? >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> Malcolm >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chicago mailing list >>>> Chicago at python.org >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > From skip at pobox.com Tue Mar 22 16:51:39 2011 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 10:51:39 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Dedicated Server Hosting Recommendations? In-Reply-To: <005601cbe89a$24c06fb0$6e414f10$@gmail.com> References: <005601cbe89a$24c06fb0$6e414f10$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <19848.50571.609216.265268@montanaro.dyndns.org> Malcolm> I'm on the hunt for the "best" price/performance for dedicated Malcolm> (non-managed) server hosting. Does anyone have any Malcolm> recommendations? I use tummy.com. I'm sure they are not the cheapest, and my virtual host was created several years ago and probably doesn't run on state-of-the-art hardware anymore, but they do a bang-up job keeping my OS up-to-date and squashing network problems. They also offer dedicated hosting if that's what you want. On top of that, Sean Reifschneider, co-founder and CTO, is involved in the Python community generally, and more specifically, he keeps many parts of the python.org hardware infrastructure coherent and up-to-date. (I think he almost single-handedly rescued the wireless network at PyCon 2008.) This being open source, he does all that for free, so I like to think I'm paying him back in some small way for his largesse. I should also point out that my son works for Gigenet in Arlington Heights. I'm sure I could get a better deal there (maybe even free), but I consider my money well-spent at tummy.com. Here's /proc/cpuinfo from my virtual server: $ cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 6 model : 23 model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz stepping : 7 cpu MHz : 2826.250 cache size : 6144 KB fdiv_bug : no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug : no coma_bug : no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 10 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss nx lm constant_tsc up arch_perfmon pebs bts pni ssse3 cx16 sse4_1 lahf_lm bogomips : 5652.50 clflush size : 64 power management: Malcolm> Also, does anyone have experience using dedicated servers Malcolm> overseas for hosting? Is this something I should consider or Malcolm> absolutely stay away from (given that most traffic will be Malcolm> coming from the US)? The python.org servers (except for bugs.python.org) are hosted at XS4ALL.net in the Netherlands. I don't know if they offer retail hosting (I don't read Dutch), but if they do, they obviously have the capability to host busy servers which have large amounts of US-based traffic. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.smontanaro.net/ From brianherman at gmail.com Tue Mar 22 21:12:57 2011 From: brianherman at gmail.com (Brian Herman) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 15:12:57 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] news-oriented ChiPy meeting April 14th Chicago Tribune In-Reply-To: <8469DB4F-D669-48AB-B24C-290FE6FA298C@northwestern.edu> References: <8469DB4F-D669-48AB-B24C-290FE6FA298C@northwestern.edu> Message-ID: +2 Thanks, Brian Herman brianjherman.com brianherman at acm.org On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Matthew T Rich wrote: > +1 > > On Mar 21, 2011, at 1:23 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > > > Group, the Chicago Tribune crew has offered a meeting location and > > topic for our next downtown meeting, April 14th. > > > > They had some presentations on hacker journalism stuff at PyCon and > > would like to stick with this topic. > > > > We had one previous meeting there which was a huge success. This may > > be the best meeting ever. Your thoughts? > > > > Regards, Brian > > > > -- > > > > Brian Ray > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -- > Matthew Rich > Senior Web Application Developer > Northwestern University > School of Education and Social Policy > Annenberg Hall, Room 249 > +1 847 467 2819 > m-rich at northwestern.edu > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brianherman at gmail.com Tue Mar 22 21:58:39 2011 From: brianherman at gmail.com (Brian Herman) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 15:58:39 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Dedicated Server Hosting Recommendations? In-Reply-To: <19848.50571.609216.265268@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <005601cbe89a$24c06fb0$6e414f10$@gmail.com> <19848.50571.609216.265268@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: linode? Storage *48GB Ram **1536MB Transfer **600GB **$59.95* http://www.linode.com/features.cfm - Deploy multiple Linux distributions - Create Configuration Profiles which associate disk images and device nodes - Boot between configuration profiles - Share disk images between configuration profiles - Resize disk images - Network and CPU usage graphs - Multiple IP address support - Managed/hosted DNS service with slave support - Custom reverse DNS (rdns) - Access Out of band console access using Lish - Lish menu system to issue jobs to your Linode - Lish access via SSH keys - Support for booting into single user mode, init=/bin/bash - Support for booting with a custom "root=" kernel parameter - Support for booting with an initrd - Bootable recovery distribution (Finnix) - Add and remove extra resources to and from your Linode - Shutdown Watchdog will automatically reboot your Linode in case of a crash - Clone a Linode to another - Move IPs from one Linode to another - IP address fail over support for high availability setups Thanks, Brian Herman brianjherman.com brianherman at acm.org On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:51 AM, wrote: > > Malcolm> I'm on the hunt for the "best" price/performance for dedicated > Malcolm> (non-managed) server hosting. Does anyone have any > Malcolm> recommendations? > > I use tummy.com. I'm sure they are not the cheapest, and my virtual host > was created several years ago and probably doesn't run on state-of-the-art > hardware anymore, but they do a bang-up job keeping my OS up-to-date and > squashing network problems. They also offer dedicated hosting if that's > what you want. > > On top of that, Sean Reifschneider, co-founder and CTO, is involved in the > Python community generally, and more specifically, he keeps many parts of > the python.org hardware infrastructure coherent and up-to-date. (I think > he > almost single-handedly rescued the wireless network at PyCon 2008.) This > being open source, he does all that for free, so I like to think I'm paying > him back in some small way for his largesse. > > I should also point out that my son works for Gigenet in Arlington Heights. > I'm sure I could get a better deal there (maybe even free), but I consider > my money well-spent at tummy.com. > > Here's /proc/cpuinfo from my virtual server: > > $ cat /proc/cpuinfo > processor : 0 > vendor_id : GenuineIntel > cpu family : 6 > model : 23 > model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz > stepping : 7 > cpu MHz : 2826.250 > cache size : 6144 KB > fdiv_bug : no > hlt_bug : no > f00f_bug : no > coma_bug : no > fpu : yes > fpu_exception : yes > cpuid level : 10 > wp : yes > flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge > mca > cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss nx lm constant_tsc > up > arch_perfmon pebs bts pni ssse3 cx16 sse4_1 lahf_lm > bogomips : 5652.50 > clflush size : 64 > power management: > > Malcolm> Also, does anyone have experience using dedicated servers > Malcolm> overseas for hosting? Is this something I should consider or > Malcolm> absolutely stay away from (given that most traffic will be > Malcolm> coming from the US)? > > The python.org servers (except for bugs.python.org) are hosted at > XS4ALL.net > in the Netherlands. I don't know if they offer retail hosting (I don't > read > Dutch), but if they do, they obviously have the capability to host busy > servers which have large amounts of US-based traffic. > > -- > Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.smontanaro.net/ > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brianherman at gmail.com Tue Mar 22 22:01:32 2011 From: brianherman at gmail.com (Brian Herman) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 16:01:32 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Dedicated Server Hosting Recommendations? In-Reply-To: References: <005601cbe89a$24c06fb0$6e414f10$@gmail.com> <19848.50571.609216.265268@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: I have personally used http://www.rapidxen.net/ and Amazon web services. I love both of those. Thanks, Brian Herman brianjherman.com brianherman at acm.org On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Brian Herman wrote: > linode? > Storage > *48GB > Ram > **1536MB > Transfer > **600GB > **$59.95* > http://www.linode.com/features.cfm > > - Deploy multiple Linux distributions > - Create Configuration Profiles which associate disk images and device > nodes > - Boot between configuration profiles > - Share disk images between configuration profiles > - Resize disk images > - Network and CPU usage graphs > - Multiple IP address support > - Managed/hosted DNS service with slave support > - Custom reverse DNS (rdns) > - Access Out of band console access using Lish > - Lish menu system to issue jobs to your Linode > - Lish access via SSH keys > - Support for booting into single user mode, init=/bin/bash > - Support for booting with a custom "root=" kernel parameter > - Support for booting with an initrd > - Bootable recovery distribution (Finnix) > - Add and remove extra resources to and from your Linode > - Shutdown Watchdog will automatically reboot your Linode in case of a > crash > - Clone a Linode to another > - Move IPs from one Linode to another > - IP address fail over support for high availability setups > > > > Thanks, > Brian Herman > > brianjherman.com > brianherman at acm.org > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:51 AM, wrote: > >> >> Malcolm> I'm on the hunt for the "best" price/performance for dedicated >> Malcolm> (non-managed) server hosting. Does anyone have any >> Malcolm> recommendations? >> >> I use tummy.com. I'm sure they are not the cheapest, and my virtual host >> was created several years ago and probably doesn't run on state-of-the-art >> hardware anymore, but they do a bang-up job keeping my OS up-to-date and >> squashing network problems. They also offer dedicated hosting if that's >> what you want. >> >> On top of that, Sean Reifschneider, co-founder and CTO, is involved in the >> Python community generally, and more specifically, he keeps many parts of >> the python.org hardware infrastructure coherent and up-to-date. (I think >> he >> almost single-handedly rescued the wireless network at PyCon 2008.) This >> being open source, he does all that for free, so I like to think I'm >> paying >> him back in some small way for his largesse. >> >> I should also point out that my son works for Gigenet in Arlington >> Heights. >> I'm sure I could get a better deal there (maybe even free), but I consider >> my money well-spent at tummy.com. >> >> Here's /proc/cpuinfo from my virtual server: >> >> $ cat /proc/cpuinfo >> processor : 0 >> vendor_id : GenuineIntel >> cpu family : 6 >> model : 23 >> model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz >> stepping : 7 >> cpu MHz : 2826.250 >> cache size : 6144 KB >> fdiv_bug : no >> hlt_bug : no >> f00f_bug : no >> coma_bug : no >> fpu : yes >> fpu_exception : yes >> cpuid level : 10 >> wp : yes >> flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge >> mca >> cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss nx lm constant_tsc >> up >> arch_perfmon pebs bts pni ssse3 cx16 sse4_1 lahf_lm >> bogomips : 5652.50 >> clflush size : 64 >> power management: >> >> Malcolm> Also, does anyone have experience using dedicated servers >> Malcolm> overseas for hosting? Is this something I should consider or >> Malcolm> absolutely stay away from (given that most traffic will be >> Malcolm> coming from the US)? >> >> The python.org servers (except for bugs.python.org) are hosted at >> XS4ALL.net >> in the Netherlands. I don't know if they offer retail hosting (I don't >> read >> Dutch), but if they do, they obviously have the capability to host busy >> servers which have large amounts of US-based traffic. >> >> -- >> Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.smontanaro.net/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tal.liron at threecrickets.com Tue Mar 22 22:37:52 2011 From: tal.liron at threecrickets.com (Tal Liron) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 16:37:52 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Dedicated Server Hosting Recommendations? In-Reply-To: <005601cbe89a$24c06fb0$6e414f10$@gmail.com> References: <005601cbe89a$24c06fb0$6e414f10$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Cannot beat their prices: prgmr.com. Barebones Xen hosting. No webby control panely things, so you better know your stuff. Minimal human support (though they very fairly give free months for any downtime). I've found the quality to be exceptional for the price. On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Malcolm Newsome wrote: > Hey ChiPy, > > > > I?m on the hunt for the ?best? price/performance for dedicated > (non-managed) server hosting. Does anyone have any recommendations? > > > > Something with specs similar to this will do just fine, but obviously > looking to get the most bang for my buck. > > - OS: Linux CentOS > - CPU: Intel Core? 2 Duo - 2.66 GHz > - RAM: 4 GB > - Storage: 2 x 300 GB hard drives > - Bandwidth: 1,500 GB per month > > > Also, does anyone have experience using dedicated servers overseas for > hosting? Is this something I should consider or absolutely stay away from > (given that most traffic will be coming from the US)? > > > > Thanks! > > > > Malcolm > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From szybalski at gmail.com Wed Mar 23 05:02:29 2011 From: szybalski at gmail.com (Lukasz Szybalski) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 23:02:29 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Fwd: Internship/Part Time Job - IT/Programmer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mar 20, 2011 11:57 PM, "Carl Karsten" wrote: > On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 10:19 PM, Lukasz Szybalski wrote: >> >> Internship/Part Time Job > >> Candidates should be a ?Computer Science? or ?Math and Computer Science? >> major or recent graduate. Candidate should know how to programming and have >> at least 6 months previous programming experience. > >> Answers from previous post: Which server version: Windows 2000,2003,2008 and sql 2000,2008 Which web framework: "Turbogears2" >> parse xml/csv/flat files, read and write to a database There is a lot of parsing flat files -> acord xml -> soap service windows 2000 -> acord xml -> soap acord xml -> mysql -> turbogears mysql -> csv ms sql 2008 -> csv sql2008 stored procedure -> mysql -> flat files. ....list just keeps on going. Let me know if you know somebody that might be interested. Thanks, Lucas >> >> python experience preferred ( sqlalchemy, familiar with creating web >> framework, xml/csv parsing) > > day 1: parse xml/csv > day 2: creating web framework, > day 3: xml/csv parsing > > -- > Carl K > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From malcolm.newsome at gmail.com Wed Mar 23 14:12:54 2011 From: malcolm.newsome at gmail.com (Malcolm Newsome) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 08:12:54 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Dedicated Server Hosting Recommendations? Message-ID: <016e01cbe95c$067d7760$13786620$@gmail.com> Thank you all for the recommendations! Malcolm ____________________________________________________________________________ _____________________________ I have personally used http://www.rapidxen.net/ and Amazon web services. I love both of those. Thanks, Brian Herman brianjherman.com brianherman at acm.org On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Brian Herman wrote: > linode? > Storage > *48GB > Ram > **1536MB > Transfer > **600GB > **$59.95* > http://www.linode.com/features.cfm > > - Deploy multiple Linux distributions > - Create Configuration Profiles which associate disk images and device > nodes > - Boot between configuration profiles > - Share disk images between configuration profiles > - Resize disk images > - Network and CPU usage graphs > - Multiple IP address support > - Managed/hosted DNS service with slave support > - Custom reverse DNS (rdns) > - Access Out of band console access using Lish > - Lish menu system to issue jobs to your Linode > - Lish access via SSH keys > - Support for booting into single user mode, init=/bin/bash > - Support for booting with a custom "root=" kernel parameter > - Support for booting with an initrd > - Bootable recovery distribution (Finnix) > - Add and remove extra resources to and from your Linode > - Shutdown Watchdog will automatically reboot your Linode in case of a > crash > - Clone a Linode to another > - Move IPs from one Linode to another > - IP address fail over support for high availability setups > > > > Thanks, > Brian Herman > > brianjherman.com > brianherman at acm.org > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:51 AM, wrote: > >> >> Malcolm> I'm on the hunt for the "best" price/performance for dedicated >> Malcolm> (non-managed) server hosting. Does anyone have any >> Malcolm> recommendations? >> >> I use tummy.com. I'm sure they are not the cheapest, and my virtual host >> was created several years ago and probably doesn't run on state-of-the-art >> hardware anymore, but they do a bang-up job keeping my OS up-to-date and >> squashing network problems. They also offer dedicated hosting if that's >> what you want. >> >> On top of that, Sean Reifschneider, co-founder and CTO, is involved in the >> Python community generally, and more specifically, he keeps many parts of >> the python.org hardware infrastructure coherent and up-to-date. (I think >> he >> almost single-handedly rescued the wireless network at PyCon 2008.) This >> being open source, he does all that for free, so I like to think I'm >> paying >> him back in some small way for his largesse. >> >> I should also point out that my son works for Gigenet in Arlington >> Heights. >> I'm sure I could get a better deal there (maybe even free), but I consider >> my money well-spent at tummy.com. >> >> Here's /proc/cpuinfo from my virtual server: >> >> $ cat /proc/cpuinfo >> processor : 0 >> vendor_id : GenuineIntel >> cpu family : 6 >> model : 23 >> model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz >> stepping : 7 >> cpu MHz : 2826.250 >> cache size : 6144 KB >> fdiv_bug : no >> hlt_bug : no >> f00f_bug : no >> coma_bug : no >> fpu : yes >> fpu_exception : yes >> cpuid level : 10 >> wp : yes >> flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge >> mca >> cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss nx lm constant_tsc >> up >> arch_perfmon pebs bts pni ssse3 cx16 sse4_1 lahf_lm >> bogomips : 5652.50 >> clflush size : 64 >> power management: >> >> Malcolm> Also, does anyone have experience using dedicated servers >> Malcolm> overseas for hosting? Is this something I should consider or >> Malcolm> absolutely stay away from (given that most traffic will be >> Malcolm> coming from the US)? >> >> The python.org servers (except for bugs.python.org) are hosted at >> XS4ALL.net >> in the Netherlands. I don't know if they offer retail hosting (I don't >> read >> Dutch), but if they do, they obviously have the capability to host busy >> servers which have large amounts of US-based traffic. >> >> -- >> Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.smontanaro.net/ From brianherman at gmail.com Wed Mar 23 17:44:08 2011 From: brianherman at gmail.com (Brian Herman) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 11:44:08 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Dedicated Server Hosting Recommendations? In-Reply-To: <016e01cbe95c$067d7760$13786620$@gmail.com> References: <016e01cbe95c$067d7760$13786620$@gmail.com> Message-ID: You have to tell us which one you picked. The suspense is killing us. Thanks, Brian Herman brianjherman.com brianherman at acm.org On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 8:12 AM, Malcolm Newsome wrote: > Thank you all for the recommendations! > > Malcolm > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > _____________________________ > > I have personally used http://www.rapidxen.net/ and Amazon web services. I > love both of those. > > Thanks, > Brian Herman > > brianjherman.com > brianherman at acm.org > > > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Brian Herman > wrote: > > > linode? > > Storage > > *48GB > > Ram > > **1536MB > > Transfer > > **600GB > > **$59.95* > > http://www.linode.com/features.cfm > > > > - Deploy multiple Linux distributions > > - Create Configuration Profiles which associate disk images and device > > nodes > > - Boot between configuration profiles > > - Share disk images between configuration profiles > > - Resize disk images > > - Network and CPU usage graphs > > - Multiple IP address support > > - Managed/hosted DNS service with slave support > > - Custom reverse DNS (rdns) > > - Access Out of band console access using Lish > > - Lish menu system to issue jobs to your Linode > > - Lish access via SSH keys > > - Support for booting into single user mode, init=/bin/bash > > - Support for booting with a custom "root=" kernel parameter > > - Support for booting with an initrd > > - Bootable recovery distribution (Finnix) > > - Add and remove extra resources to and from your Linode > > - Shutdown Watchdog will automatically reboot your Linode in case of a > > crash > > - Clone a Linode to another > > - Move IPs from one Linode to another > > - IP address fail over support for high availability setups > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > Brian Herman > > > > brianjherman.com > > brianherman at acm.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:51 AM, wrote: > > > >> > >> Malcolm> I'm on the hunt for the "best" price/performance for > dedicated > >> Malcolm> (non-managed) server hosting. Does anyone have any > >> Malcolm> recommendations? > >> > >> I use tummy.com. I'm sure they are not the cheapest, and my virtual > host > >> was created several years ago and probably doesn't run on > state-of-the-art > >> hardware anymore, but they do a bang-up job keeping my OS up-to-date and > >> squashing network problems. They also offer dedicated hosting if that's > >> what you want. > >> > >> On top of that, Sean Reifschneider, co-founder and CTO, is involved in > the > >> Python community generally, and more specifically, he keeps many parts > of > >> the python.org hardware infrastructure coherent and up-to-date. (I > think > >> he > >> almost single-handedly rescued the wireless network at PyCon 2008.) > This > >> being open source, he does all that for free, so I like to think I'm > >> paying > >> him back in some small way for his largesse. > >> > >> I should also point out that my son works for Gigenet in Arlington > >> Heights. > >> I'm sure I could get a better deal there (maybe even free), but I > consider > >> my money well-spent at tummy.com. > >> > >> Here's /proc/cpuinfo from my virtual server: > >> > >> $ cat /proc/cpuinfo > >> processor : 0 > >> vendor_id : GenuineIntel > >> cpu family : 6 > >> model : 23 > >> model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz > >> stepping : 7 > >> cpu MHz : 2826.250 > >> cache size : 6144 KB > >> fdiv_bug : no > >> hlt_bug : no > >> f00f_bug : no > >> coma_bug : no > >> fpu : yes > >> fpu_exception : yes > >> cpuid level : 10 > >> wp : yes > >> flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr > pge > >> mca > >> cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss nx lm > constant_tsc > >> up > >> arch_perfmon pebs bts pni ssse3 cx16 sse4_1 lahf_lm > >> bogomips : 5652.50 > >> clflush size : 64 > >> power management: > >> > >> Malcolm> Also, does anyone have experience using dedicated servers > >> Malcolm> overseas for hosting? Is this something I should consider > or > >> Malcolm> absolutely stay away from (given that most traffic will be > >> Malcolm> coming from the US)? > >> > >> The python.org servers (except for bugs.python.org) are hosted at > >> XS4ALL.net > >> in the Netherlands. I don't know if they offer retail hosting (I don't > >> read > >> Dutch), but if they do, they obviously have the capability to host busy > >> servers which have large amounts of US-based traffic. > >> > >> -- > >> Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.smontanaro.net/ > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From malcolm.newsome at gmail.com Thu Mar 24 16:26:15 2011 From: malcolm.newsome at gmail.com (Malcolm Newsome) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 10:26:15 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Dedicated Server Hosting Recommendations? Message-ID: I definitely don't want to be the cause of any email thread related deaths! I'll definitely report back once I've checked out your recommendations and made a selection :-) Malcolm From: Brian Herman > > You have to tell us which one you picked. > The suspense is killing us. > Thanks, > Brian Herman > > brianjherman.com > brianherman at acm.org > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 8:12 AM, Malcolm Newsome < > malcolm.newsome at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thank you all for the recommendations! >> >> Malcolm >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________________________ >> _____________________________ >> >> I have personally used http://www.rapidxen.net/ and Amazon web services. >> I >> love both of those. >> >> Thanks, >> Brian Herman >> >> brianjherman.com >> brianherman at acm.org >> >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Brian Herman >> wrote: >> >> > linode? >> > Storage >> > *48GB >> > Ram >> > **1536MB >> > Transfer >> > **600GB >> > **$59.95* >> > http://www.linode.com/features.cfm >> > >> > - Deploy multiple Linux distributions >> > - Create Configuration Profiles which associate disk images and >> device >> > nodes >> > - Boot between configuration profiles >> > - Share disk images between configuration profiles >> > - Resize disk images >> > - Network and CPU usage graphs >> > - Multiple IP address support >> > - Managed/hosted DNS service with slave support >> > - Custom reverse DNS (rdns) >> > - Access Out of band console access using Lish >> > - Lish menu system to issue jobs to your Linode >> > - Lish access via SSH keys >> > - Support for booting into single user mode, init=/bin/bash >> > - Support for booting with a custom "root=" kernel parameter >> > - Support for booting with an initrd >> > - Bootable recovery distribution (Finnix) >> > - Add and remove extra resources to and from your Linode >> > - Shutdown Watchdog will automatically reboot your Linode in case of >> a >> > crash >> > - Clone a Linode to another >> > - Move IPs from one Linode to another >> > - IP address fail over support for high availability setups >> > >> > >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Brian Herman >> > >> > brianjherman.com >> > brianherman at acm.org >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:51 AM, wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> Malcolm> I'm on the hunt for the "best" price/performance for >> dedicated >> >> Malcolm> (non-managed) server hosting. Does anyone have any >> >> Malcolm> recommendations? >> >> >> >> I use tummy.com. I'm sure they are not the cheapest, and my virtual >> host >> >> was created several years ago and probably doesn't run on >> state-of-the-art >> >> hardware anymore, but they do a bang-up job keeping my OS up-to-date >> and >> >> squashing network problems. They also offer dedicated hosting if >> that's >> >> what you want. >> >> >> >> On top of that, Sean Reifschneider, co-founder and CTO, is involved in >> the >> >> Python community generally, and more specifically, he keeps many parts >> of >> >> the python.org hardware infrastructure coherent and up-to-date. (I >> think >> >> he >> >> almost single-handedly rescued the wireless network at PyCon 2008.) >> This >> >> being open source, he does all that for free, so I like to think I'm >> >> paying >> >> him back in some small way for his largesse. >> >> >> >> I should also point out that my son works for Gigenet in Arlington >> >> Heights. >> >> I'm sure I could get a better deal there (maybe even free), but I >> consider >> >> my money well-spent at tummy.com. >> >> >> >> Here's /proc/cpuinfo from my virtual server: >> >> >> >> $ cat /proc/cpuinfo >> >> processor : 0 >> >> vendor_id : GenuineIntel >> >> cpu family : 6 >> >> model : 23 >> >> model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz >> >> stepping : 7 >> >> cpu MHz : 2826.250 >> >> cache size : 6144 KB >> >> fdiv_bug : no >> >> hlt_bug : no >> >> f00f_bug : no >> >> coma_bug : no >> >> fpu : yes >> >> fpu_exception : yes >> >> cpuid level : 10 >> >> wp : yes >> >> flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr >> pge >> >> mca >> >> cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss nx lm >> constant_tsc >> >> up >> >> arch_perfmon pebs bts pni ssse3 cx16 sse4_1 lahf_lm >> >> bogomips : 5652.50 >> >> clflush size : 64 >> >> power management: >> >> >> >> Malcolm> Also, does anyone have experience using dedicated servers >> >> Malcolm> overseas for hosting? Is this something I should consider >> or >> >> Malcolm> absolutely stay away from (given that most traffic will be >> >> Malcolm> coming from the US)? >> >> >> >> The python.org servers (except for bugs.python.org) are hosted at >> >> XS4ALL.net >> >> in the Netherlands. I don't know if they offer retail hosting (I don't >> >> read >> >> Dutch), but if they do, they obviously have the capability to host busy >> >> servers which have large amounts of US-based traffic. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.smontanaro.net/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ben.rathbone at gmail.com Thu Mar 24 17:05:56 2011 From: ben.rathbone at gmail.com (Ben Rathbone) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:05:56 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Chicago Djangonauts meetup, April 7th Message-ID: For Django enthusiasts.... Invitation: Chicago Djangonauts meetup, April 7th After several years on life support, Imaginary Landscape is resurrecting the Chicago Djangonauts user group with a meetup at our offices. Date/Time: Thursday, April 7th @ 7pm Location: Imaginary Landscape 5121 N. Ravenswood Ave. Chicago, IL 60640 Overview: Rackspace Cloud and Django, a Live Demonstration Join us for a live demonstration as we create a server within the Rackspace cloud and build a simple site using Django and DjangoCMS. Imaginary Landscape has been evaluating the cloud as a production environment for our Django clients. You'll see the process from the ground up in real time in addition to Q&A with Imaginary technical staff. In addition, we will open the floor for a discussion on reviving Chicago Djangonaut meetings on a regular basis as well as content plans for future meetings. Imaginary will provide pizza, beer and soft drinks. Background: Having just returned from the largest PyCon ever, we are energized by the continued adoption of Python and have supported ChiPy for years. However as a Django shop, we miss the Chicago Djangonauts and would like to ressurect a Django-specific users group in Chicago. Please drop by for the cloud demo, some food/drink as well as a meet and greet. Imaginary Landscape is a 4-time sponsor of PyCon, a 2-time sponsor of DjangoCon and frequent sponsor of ChiPy meetings. We've been creating websites using Python since 1999 and Django since 2007. Additional background can be found in the blog post, "PyCon, Django in Chicago and general musings." http://chicagodjango.com/blog/pycon-django-chicago-general-musings/ Action: RSVP through our Facebook event page or our contact form so we know how much beer to buy! Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=185265348184736 Contact form: http://chicagodjango.com/contact/ From eviljoel at linux.com Sat Mar 26 05:06:17 2011 From: eviljoel at linux.com (eviljoel) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 00:06:17 -0400 Subject: [Chicago] Official PSF Sponsored Python Sprint at Flourish 2011! - April 1st - 3rd Message-ID: Hello All, I wanted to let all of you know that Flourish's application for an official Python Sprint has been approved by the Python Software Foundation (PSF)! Flourish is even mentioned on their website (http://pythonsprints.com/). If you are interested in contributing to core python or one of its popular frameworks, please attend the Flourish 2011 Python Sprint. More information about the Python Sprint is located here: http://www.flourishconf.com/2011/pythonsprint While we are still looking for a Sprint Coach to help us on the first two days of the sprint, I don't think we necessarily need an official coach to be productive. I am working hard with Brian Curtin (our coach on Sunday) to make sure that everyone who shows up to code on Friday and Saturday has something concrete to work on. I'll be sitting down with him on Sunday and he is going to show me everything (well, maybe not everything) a new developer needs to get started. That being said, if you are interested in helping us run the sprint as a Sprint Coach, please contact me directly. Our Flourish team has already spammed this list with information about Flourish, but in case you have been living under a rock, Flourish is a FREE conference intended to promote Open Source Software and Open Culture. The conference will take place on April 1st through 3rd at the University of Illinois at Chicago. More information is available at http://www.flourishconf.com/. Thank you, Joel Luellwitz On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 10:57 PM, eviljoel wrote: > Hello All, > > I see my friend Aisha announced to you yesterday that Flourish > registration is open, so I'll spare you the details about our > conference. ?If you need details about the conference in general, > please refer to http://www.flourishconf.com/. > > I've been in contact with Brian Curtin and a couple others about > setting up an official PSF sponsored Python Sprint at Flourish 2011. > More on Python Sprints can be found at http://pythonsprints.com/. > Unfortunately, Brain can only be a Sprint Coach on Sunday. ?We > currently do not have a Sprint Coach locked down for Friday night and > Saturday. ?If being a Sprint Coach at Flourish is something that > interests you, please reply and let me know. > > What exactly we'll be coding at the Python Sprint is still to be > determined. ?I am waiting to see what our second Sprint Coach is > interested in working on before committing to a specific type of > project. ?However, the Python Sprints website has the following > suggestions: > - Python Core work, e.g, bug triage, documentation > - Porting libraries/applications to Python 3 > - PyPI and packaging related improvements > - Contribution to Python VMs, e.g., PyPy, IronPython > - Contribution to other Python projects, e.g., Django, PIL, pywin32 and so on... > > If you are interested in contributing during the Python Sprint itself > but are not up for being a Sprint Coach, please send me an e-mail > (joel at flourishconf.com) and I'll keep you informed about this event as > details are established. > > Oh, and please excuse me if word about this proposed sprint already > got out to you via this list. ?I checked the archives before sending > this e-mail, but I still might have missed it. > > One last request. ?I notice you have a meeting this Thursday in the > north suburbs. ?I would greatly appreciate it if someone could > announce Flourish and our search for a Sprint Coach at this meeting. > I would attend it myself but it seems impossible to get up there via > public transportation. > > Thank you, > Joel Luellwitz > From brianherman at gmail.com Sat Mar 26 06:47:09 2011 From: brianherman at gmail.com (Brian Herman) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 00:47:09 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Official PSF Sponsored Python Sprint at Flourish 2011! - April 1st - 3rd In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sounds good I hear they give out free t-shirts and food! Thanks, Brian Herman brianjherman.com brianherman at acm.org On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 11:06 PM, eviljoel wrote: > Hello All, > > I wanted to let all of you know that Flourish's application for an > official Python Sprint has been approved by the Python Software > Foundation (PSF)! Flourish is even mentioned on their website > (http://pythonsprints.com/). If you are interested in contributing to > core python or one of its popular frameworks, please attend the > Flourish 2011 Python Sprint. More information about the Python Sprint > is located here: http://www.flourishconf.com/2011/pythonsprint > > While we are still looking for a Sprint Coach to help us on the first > two days of the sprint, I don't think we necessarily need an official > coach to be productive. I am working hard with Brian Curtin (our > coach on Sunday) to make sure that everyone who shows up to code on > Friday and Saturday has something concrete to work on. I'll be > sitting down with him on Sunday and he is going to show me everything > (well, maybe not everything) a new developer needs to get started. > That being said, if you are interested in helping us run the sprint as > a Sprint Coach, please contact me directly. > > Our Flourish team has already spammed this list with information about > Flourish, but in case you have been living under a rock, Flourish is a > FREE conference intended to promote Open Source Software and Open > Culture. The conference will take place on April 1st through 3rd at > the University of Illinois at Chicago. More information is available > at http://www.flourishconf.com/. > > Thank you, > Joel Luellwitz > > > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 10:57 PM, eviljoel wrote: > > Hello All, > > > > I see my friend Aisha announced to you yesterday that Flourish > > registration is open, so I'll spare you the details about our > > conference. If you need details about the conference in general, > > please refer to http://www.flourishconf.com/. > > > > I've been in contact with Brian Curtin and a couple others about > > setting up an official PSF sponsored Python Sprint at Flourish 2011. > > More on Python Sprints can be found at http://pythonsprints.com/. > > Unfortunately, Brain can only be a Sprint Coach on Sunday. We > > currently do not have a Sprint Coach locked down for Friday night and > > Saturday. If being a Sprint Coach at Flourish is something that > > interests you, please reply and let me know. > > > > What exactly we'll be coding at the Python Sprint is still to be > > determined. I am waiting to see what our second Sprint Coach is > > interested in working on before committing to a specific type of > > project. However, the Python Sprints website has the following > > suggestions: > > - Python Core work, e.g, bug triage, documentation > > - Porting libraries/applications to Python 3 > > - PyPI and packaging related improvements > > - Contribution to Python VMs, e.g., PyPy, IronPython > > - Contribution to other Python projects, e.g., Django, PIL, pywin32 and > so on... > > > > If you are interested in contributing during the Python Sprint itself > > but are not up for being a Sprint Coach, please send me an e-mail > > (joel at flourishconf.com) and I'll keep you informed about this event as > > details are established. > > > > Oh, and please excuse me if word about this proposed sprint already > > got out to you via this list. I checked the archives before sending > > this e-mail, but I still might have missed it. > > > > One last request. I notice you have a meeting this Thursday in the > > north suburbs. I would greatly appreciate it if someone could > > announce Flourish and our search for a Sprint Coach at this meeting. > > I would attend it myself but it seems impossible to get up there via > > public transportation. > > > > Thank you, > > Joel Luellwitz > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eviljoel at linux.com Sat Mar 26 06:52:03 2011 From: eviljoel at linux.com (eviljoel) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 01:52:03 -0400 Subject: [Chicago] Official PSF Sponsored Python Sprint at Flourish 2011! - April 1st - 3rd In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Actually, Python Sprinters might get extra food from the sponsorship money from the PSF. Later, EJ On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 1:47 AM, Brian Herman wrote: > Sounds good I hear they give out free t-shirts and food! > > Thanks, > Brian Herman > > brianjherman.com > brianherman at acm.org > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 11:06 PM, eviljoel wrote: >> >> Hello All, >> >> I wanted to let all of you know that Flourish's application for an >> official Python Sprint has been approved by the Python Software >> Foundation (PSF)! ?Flourish is even mentioned on their website >> (http://pythonsprints.com/). ?If you are interested in contributing to >> core python or one of its popular frameworks, please attend the >> Flourish 2011 Python Sprint. ?More information about the Python Sprint >> is located here: ?http://www.flourishconf.com/2011/pythonsprint >> >> While we are still looking for a Sprint Coach to help us on the first >> two days of the sprint, I don't think we necessarily need an official >> coach to be productive. ?I am working hard with Brian Curtin (our >> coach on Sunday) to make sure that everyone who shows up to code on >> Friday and Saturday has something concrete to work on. ?I'll be >> sitting down with him on Sunday and he is going to show me everything >> (well, maybe not everything) a new developer needs to get started. >> That being said, if you are interested in helping us run the sprint as >> a Sprint Coach, please contact me directly. >> >> Our Flourish team has already spammed this list with information about >> Flourish, but in case you have been living under a rock, Flourish is a >> FREE conference intended to promote Open Source Software and Open >> Culture. ?The conference will take place on April 1st through 3rd at >> the University of Illinois at Chicago. ?More information is available >> at http://www.flourishconf.com/. >> >> Thank you, >> Joel Luellwitz >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 10:57 PM, eviljoel wrote: >> > Hello All, >> > >> > I see my friend Aisha announced to you yesterday that Flourish >> > registration is open, so I'll spare you the details about our >> > conference. ?If you need details about the conference in general, >> > please refer to http://www.flourishconf.com/. >> > >> > I've been in contact with Brian Curtin and a couple others about >> > setting up an official PSF sponsored Python Sprint at Flourish 2011. >> > More on Python Sprints can be found at http://pythonsprints.com/. >> > Unfortunately, Brain can only be a Sprint Coach on Sunday. ?We >> > currently do not have a Sprint Coach locked down for Friday night and >> > Saturday. ?If being a Sprint Coach at Flourish is something that >> > interests you, please reply and let me know. >> > >> > What exactly we'll be coding at the Python Sprint is still to be >> > determined. ?I am waiting to see what our second Sprint Coach is >> > interested in working on before committing to a specific type of >> > project. ?However, the Python Sprints website has the following >> > suggestions: >> > - Python Core work, e.g, bug triage, documentation >> > - Porting libraries/applications to Python 3 >> > - PyPI and packaging related improvements >> > - Contribution to Python VMs, e.g., PyPy, IronPython >> > - Contribution to other Python projects, e.g., Django, PIL, pywin32 and >> > so on... >> > >> > If you are interested in contributing during the Python Sprint itself >> > but are not up for being a Sprint Coach, please send me an e-mail >> > (joel at flourishconf.com) and I'll keep you informed about this event as >> > details are established. >> > >> > Oh, and please excuse me if word about this proposed sprint already >> > got out to you via this list. ?I checked the archives before sending >> > this e-mail, but I still might have missed it. >> > >> > One last request. ?I notice you have a meeting this Thursday in the >> > north suburbs. ?I would greatly appreciate it if someone could >> > announce Flourish and our search for a Sprint Coach at this meeting. >> > I would attend it myself but it seems impossible to get up there via >> > public transportation. >> > >> > Thank you, >> > Joel Luellwitz >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > From malcolm.newsome at gmail.com Sat Mar 26 22:24:33 2011 From: malcolm.newsome at gmail.com (Malcolm Newsome) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 16:24:33 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] pedantic guessing game demo Message-ID: *Hey All, Here's a rewrite of the guessing game taking into account some of your suggestions. There's a few more things I need to figure out. But, I'm pleased with how it has progressed so far. All the best! Malcolm # guess.py # a simple number guessing game import random #---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- def nope_message(random_num): return "Nope! I'm smarter than you!\nI was thinking of the number: %d" % int(random_num) def right_message(retried=False): message = "That was right! I guess you ARE smarter than me" if retried: message += "... even though it took you another try!" return message def reread_input(message): return int(input("You were too %s. Type another number: " % message)) def retry(message, random_num): guess_iflow = reread_input(message) if guess_iflow == random_num: return right_message(True) else: return nope_message(random_num) #--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- def main(): print "Do you think you're smarter than me?" print "I guess we'll see!" print "I'm thinking of a number between 1 - 100. Can you guess what it is?" random_num = random.randint(1, 100) guess = int(input("Type a number between 1 - 100: ")) error = guess < 1, guess < 100 if guess == random_num: print right_message() elif guess < random_num:# user gets second chance if number is too low print retry("low", random_num) elif guess > random_num:# user gets second chance if number is too high print retry("high", random_num) else: print nope_message(random_num) if __name__ == "__main__": main() Tue Mar 8 07:15:18 CET 2011* Well, then, you still did well enough on a first attempt. This is a good starting place to learn about more techniques, like using methods, loops, and conditionals. Learning to use loops and functions will probably be next for you. Keep reading up on python, maybe using one of the nice online books or the tutorial that comes with it. You will learn about classes, functions, conditionals, loops and many exciting other features of our favorite programming language. It actually is a bit of fun to rewrite the program using Test-Driven Development (when you get that far along). On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Tim Ottinger > wrote: >* For children, I think this is a good start. Without introducing *>* looping, and barely introducing subroutines, it's not bad for kids. *>* *>* I took a copy and started by running autonose in the directory and *>* writing unit tests. That drove me to make a lot *>* of changes. I ended up breaking out a game object, introducing member *>* functions, isolating the input and output from the core game, etc. * This mirrors my thoughts when I looked at the code. It is all written in one large function, with no distinction between user interaction, processing or data manipulation. There are no tests, and no easy way to inject testing. I started to think about a data object that would initialize itself and compare itself against a guess. I considered proposing a user interface object that would read its strings externally so it could easily be moved to different languages. And a process controller that would isolate the looping constructs could be added. But then again it's a one page function that has no plans to grow. All the above is premature optimization and should be done as part of refactoring processes as the code is prepped for the addition of the next step. Actually, If I was trying to get my kids interested, I would modify this into a web app where they could see the HTML and start to understand how the web is technology not magic. Being able to put in a background image and change the look of the page is fun. And when you show them that if they view the page source they can find the 'secret' number in the text of a hidden field they feel a thrill like they are cracking a secret of the universe. Phil -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brianhray at gmail.com Sat Mar 26 22:40:28 2011 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 16:40:28 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] pedantic guessing game demo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Fun... One comment on: * print "I'm thinking of a number between 1 - 100. Can you guess what it is?" > > random_num = random.randint(1, 100) > > guess = int(input("Type a number between 1 - 100: ")) > > > error = guess < 1, guess < 100 > > * > > I think that error was put in there so you can handle errors correct, one way to add some error handing there is add something like: while True: guess = int(input("Type a number between 1 - 100: ")) if guess < 1 or guess > 100: print "%s out of range try again" % guess continue break - Brian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From malcolm.newsome at gmail.com Sun Mar 27 00:05:52 2011 From: malcolm.newsome at gmail.com (Malcolm Newsome) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 18:05:52 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] pedantic guessing game demo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Brian. That's precisely what I needed! Malcolm On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > Fun... One comment on: > > * print "I'm thinking of a number between 1 - 100. Can you guess what it is?" >> >> random_num = random.randint(1, 100) >> >> guess = int(input("Type a number between 1 - 100: ")) >> >> >> error = guess < 1, guess < 100 >> >> * >> >> I think that error was put in there so you can handle errors correct, one > way to add some error handing there is add something like: > > while True: > > guess = int(input("Type a number between 1 - 100: ")) > if guess < 1 or guess > 100: > print "%s out of range try again" % guess > continue > > break > > > - Brian > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kirby.urner at gmail.com Sun Mar 27 00:53:45 2011 From: kirby.urner at gmail.com (kirby urner) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 16:53:45 -0700 Subject: [Chicago] pedantic guessing game demo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Malcolm Newsome wrote: > Thanks Brian. That's precisely what I needed! > > Malcolm > > > > On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Brian Ray wrote: >> >> Fun... One comment on: >> And then if the real goal is to teach programming (more than to play this little guessing game) a next step would be to challenge a learner to modify it slightly to where it says "Too high" or "Too low" on any guess that's not right.** Another challenge would be to come up with several variants of this program the exercise different features, even try: / except: if you wanna get creative. Python rocks, party on! Kirby ** PSF chairman Holden uses just this approach in his courseware for OST. >>> print "I'm thinking of a number between 1 - 100. Can you guess what >>> it is?" >>> >>> >>> random_num = random.randint(1, 100) >>> >>> guess = int(input("Type a number between 1 - 100: ")) >>> From kirby.urner at gmail.com Sun Mar 27 00:55:01 2011 From: kirby.urner at gmail.com (kirby urner) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 16:55:01 -0700 Subject: [Chicago] pedantic guessing game demo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 4:53 PM, kirby urner wrote: > On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Malcolm Newsome > to where it says "Too high" or "Too low" on any guess that's not right.** > Oh duh! You already did exactly that earlier in the thread. My bad for not scanning completely! Kirby > Another challenge would be to come up with several variants of this program > the exercise different features, even try: / except: if you wanna get creative. > > Python rocks, party on! > > Kirby > > ** PSF chairman Holden uses just this approach in his courseware for OST. > > >>>> ? ? print "I'm thinking of a number between 1 - 100. ?Can you guess what >>>> it is?" >>>> >>>> >>>> ? ? random_num = random.randint(1, 100) >>>> >>>> ? ? guess = int(input("Type a number between 1 - 100: ")) >>>> > From brianherman at gmail.com Sun Mar 27 09:10:47 2011 From: brianherman at gmail.com (Brian Herman) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 02:10:47 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Greenlet Message-ID: Does anyone know about the py.magic.greenlit library? Thanks, Brian Herman brianjherman.com brianherman at acm.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Allan On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 5:09 AM, Brantley Harris wrote: > It lives on in Eventlet > > It's absolutely awesome, and might give a talk about it one of these days. > > So, yes. If you have any questions, I'd be glad to help. > > On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 2:10 AM, Brian Herman > wrote: > > Does anyone know about the py.magic.greenlit library? > > Thanks, > > Brian Herman > > > > brianjherman.com > > brianherman at acm.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From steve at cugnet.net Thu Mar 24 19:07:24 2011 From: steve at cugnet.net (Steven McGrath) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 13:07:24 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Dedicated Server Hosting Recommendations? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <-6621734520820404675@unknownmsgid> I ended up just doing it myself with a coloed server, KVM, lvm, and a little scripting. Cugnet.net ;) Sent from my iPhone On Mar 24, 2011, at 10:30, Malcolm Newsome wrote: I definitely don't want to be the cause of any email thread related deaths! I'll definitely report back once I've checked out your recommendations and made a selection :-) Malcolm From: Brian Herman > > You have to tell us which one you picked. > The suspense is killing us. > Thanks, > Brian Herman > > brianjherman.com > brianherman at acm.org > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 8:12 AM, Malcolm Newsome < > malcolm.newsome at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thank you all for the recommendations! >> >> Malcolm >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________________________ >> _____________________________ >> >> I have personally used http://www.rapidxen.net/ and Amazon web services. >> I >> love both of those. >> >> Thanks, >> Brian Herman >> >> brianjherman.com >> brianherman at acm.org >> >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Brian Herman >> wrote: >> >> > linode? >> > Storage >> > *48GB >> > Ram >> > **1536MB >> > Transfer >> > **600GB >> > **$59.95* >> > http://www.linode.com/features.cfm >> > >> > - Deploy multiple Linux distributions >> > - Create Configuration Profiles which associate disk images and >> device >> > nodes >> > - Boot between configuration profiles >> > - Share disk images between configuration profiles >> > - Resize disk images >> > - Network and CPU usage graphs >> > - Multiple IP address support >> > - Managed/hosted DNS service with slave support >> > - Custom reverse DNS (rdns) >> > - Access Out of band console access using Lish >> > - Lish menu system to issue jobs to your Linode >> > - Lish access via SSH keys >> > - Support for booting into single user mode, init=/bin/bash >> > - Support for booting with a custom "root=" kernel parameter >> > - Support for booting with an initrd >> > - Bootable recovery distribution (Finnix) >> > - Add and remove extra resources to and from your Linode >> > - Shutdown Watchdog will automatically reboot your Linode in case of >> a >> > crash >> > - Clone a Linode to another >> > - Move IPs from one Linode to another >> > - IP address fail over support for high availability setups >> > >> > >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Brian Herman >> > >> > brianjherman.com >> > brianherman at acm.org >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:51 AM, wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> Malcolm> I'm on the hunt for the "best" price/performance for >> dedicated >> >> Malcolm> (non-managed) server hosting. Does anyone have any >> >> Malcolm> recommendations? >> >> >> >> I use tummy.com. I'm sure they are not the cheapest, and my virtual >> host >> >> was created several years ago and probably doesn't run on >> state-of-the-art >> >> hardware anymore, but they do a bang-up job keeping my OS up-to-date >> and >> >> squashing network problems. They also offer dedicated hosting if >> that's >> >> what you want. >> >> >> >> On top of that, Sean Reifschneider, co-founder and CTO, is involved in >> the >> >> Python community generally, and more specifically, he keeps many parts >> of >> >> the python.org hardware infrastructure coherent and up-to-date. (I >> think >> >> he >> >> almost single-handedly rescued the wireless network at PyCon 2008.) >> This >> >> being open source, he does all that for free, so I like to think I'm >> >> paying >> >> him back in some small way for his largesse. >> >> >> >> I should also point out that my son works for Gigenet in Arlington >> >> Heights. >> >> I'm sure I could get a better deal there (maybe even free), but I >> consider >> >> my money well-spent at tummy.com. >> >> >> >> Here's /proc/cpuinfo from my virtual server: >> >> >> >> $ cat /proc/cpuinfo >> >> processor : 0 >> >> vendor_id : GenuineIntel >> >> cpu family : 6 >> >> model : 23 >> >> model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz >> >> stepping : 7 >> >> cpu MHz : 2826.250 >> >> cache size : 6144 KB >> >> fdiv_bug : no >> >> hlt_bug : no >> >> f00f_bug : no >> >> coma_bug : no >> >> fpu : yes >> >> fpu_exception : yes >> >> cpuid level : 10 >> >> wp : yes >> >> flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr >> pge >> >> mca >> >> cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss nx lm >> constant_tsc >> >> up >> >> arch_perfmon pebs bts pni ssse3 cx16 sse4_1 lahf_lm >> >> bogomips : 5652.50 >> >> clflush size : 64 >> >> power management: >> >> >> >> Malcolm> Also, does anyone have experience using dedicated servers >> >> Malcolm> overseas for hosting? Is this something I should consider >> or >> >> Malcolm> absolutely stay away from (given that most traffic will be >> >> Malcolm> coming from the US)? >> >> >> >> The python.org servers (except for bugs.python.org) are hosted at >> >> XS4ALL.net >> >> in the Netherlands. I don't know if they offer retail hosting (I don't >> >> read >> >> Dutch), but if they do, they obviously have the capability to host busy >> >> servers which have large amounts of US-based traffic. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.smontanaro.net/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > _______________________________________________ Chicago mailing list Chicago at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Also on the agenda: * Jason Grotto (Chicago Tribune) and Jeff Kelly Lowenstein (Hoy, formerly Chicago Reporter) will present brief case studies of computer assisted reporting projects they've done, explaining the theory and practice of finding stories in data * Larry Adams and Nate Nichols will present the how and why of using Python to create domain specific languages (DSLs) as part of Narrative Science's algorithmic news production process. * Lightning talks: each speaker has exactly five minutes to present on any topic of likely interest to the audience. News Apps team members will be presenting on projects, tools and/or tricks of the trade. You can present as well! If you're interested in presenting a lightning talk on anything pertinent to news and technology, please send an email to jgermuska at tribune.com ? only people who make contact before the event will be allowed to present, and if we get too much advance interest, we may need to subject the list of topics to some kind of vote. Don't be shy, five minutes is not long?you probably have something interesting to share. If you have a topic that might be longer than lightning-talk length, email jgermuska at tribune.com with a brief description of the topic and the timing, and we can see if it fits in. ADVANCE RSVP IS REQUIRED in order to gain admission to Tribune Tower. RSVP at http://meetupchicago.hackshackers.com/ or by email to jgermuska at tribune.com -- Joe Germuska Joe at Germuska.com * http://blog.germuska.com * http://twitter.com/JoeGermuska "I felt so good I told the leader how to follow." -- Sly Stone -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks guys.... this will be legendary. > > > >> >> >> > -- > > Brian Ray > (773) 669-7717 > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Michael at phoronix.com Thu Mar 31 14:51:58 2011 From: Michael at phoronix.com (Michael Larabel) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 07:51:58 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Chicago X.Org Developers' Summit Message-ID: <4D9478EE.5050903@phoronix.com> Hi, I was recommended by an Ubuntu LoCo member to ask a Chicago organization here. I'm organizing the 2011 X.Org Developers' Conference/Summit and looking to host it in Chicago this September. The X.Org Foundation is looking for a venue for around ~60 developers that ideally can offer us a large room for a period of about three days, at ideally little or no cost. I wanted to see from the Ubuntu Chicago list if anyone has any potential leads or recommendations for such a venue? I've contacted the CS departments at area universities and a few of them look potentially hopeful while I am still waiting on others. http://www.x.org/wiki/Events/XDC2011 Additionally, before or after the event the X.Org Foundation is looking to host a smaller book-sprint where they hope to write 'A New Developer's Guide To X.Org'. For this sprint to last a few days it can be at a different venue as they are just expecting ~10 people. Thanks for any information. Michael Larabel