[Chicago] LISP was Factoring fun with functions in Python

Damon Wang damonwang at uchicago.edu
Wed Nov 14 06:19:40 CET 2012

2012/11/13 Frank Duncan <herbieman2000 at gmail.com>

> http://www.lispworks.com/documentation/HyperSpec/Front/X_AllSym.htm
> Most of the symbols seem self explanatory to me...?
I never realized these were all defined.  After I discovered they went all
the way up to four levels deep, I assumed it was implemented using some
horrible hack, like a reader macro that transformed /c[ad]*r/ into the
appropriate series of car/cdr calls at read-time.


> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Tal Liron <tal.liron at threecrickets.com>wrote:
>>  Heh, also great for neurotics, when you need to punch in 20
>> close-parentheses signs in succession... )))))))))))))))))))))
>> On 11/13/2012 02:48 PM, Randall Baxley wrote:
>>   LISP like APL was born in a time of doing things with four byte words
>> and many learned machine languages or assembly before a higher level
>> language which builds a sort of language all of it's own and English words
>> get shortened to three or four letter replacements.  Major dmag to spln as
>> well.  Great for slow fingers though.
>> --- On *Tue, 11/13/12, Tal Liron <tal.liron at threecrickets.com><tal.liron at threecrickets.com>
>> * wrote:
>> 3) This cuts a bite close to home: part of what I hate, hate, hate about
>> the Lisp world (which I otherwise love) is its fetishization of
>> succinctness. Functions have the weirdest, shortest names that tell you
>> basically nothing about what they do. You just, like, gotta be in the know,
>> you know? People in that world love to have philosophical discussions about
>> how succinctness == clarity, but some of us like to get work done in the
>> real world, don't we.
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