[Chicago] GitHub & SpamBayes

Adam "Cezar" Jenkins emperorcezar at gmail.com
Tue Feb 5 16:18:56 CET 2013

I think this use to be the case. These days I've found it more than
adequate. It's a stright forward form, and you can "watch" it to get
updates. Not sure it could get much simpler than

On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Tal Liron <tal.liron at threecrickets.com>wrote:

>  Yes.
> The disadvantage of GitHub is its abominable issue system. It makes it
> hard for people to open bugs, harder for you track them, etc. So, while you
> may get more code contributions on GitHub, you will get fewer bug reports
> from users who have trouble (and can't be bothered to patch, fork/pull, and
> generally learn git).
> I use git, but host all my projects on Google Code. The reason is Google
> Code's dead simple issue system: it is by far the easiest to use. If anyone
> cares about an issue, they just "star" it and get updates. Very easy to
> report a bug or see all open issues on a project and their current status.
> It is also possible to use a hybrid system. I've seen a lot of projects
> use Google Code's issue system while hosting the repository on GitHub. I
> personally find it awkward.
> Google Code has also made it easier recently to clone gits, but they yet
> to implement something as marvelous as GitHub pull requests.
> -Tal
> On 02/04/2013 06:37 PM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins wrote:
> Will it solve all your problems? No. Will you get pull requests? Yes.
>  Github makes it orders of magnitude easier to contribute to a project.
> IF someone is there to actually go through and merge in the pull requests.
>  I became a maintainer of Django-recurrence because it was on launchpad
> and I just pulled down the code and put it on Github. All the sudden I was
> getting pull requests and interest in the project.
>  People can litteraly edit code using the web interface and create a pull
> request. If I have to svn down your code from Sourceforge, create a patch,
> then email someone, it's not going to happen. It's not a few button pushes
> away.
> On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Skip Montanaro <skip at pobox.com> wrote:
>> Based on the thread asking for people's GitHub info, there seem to be
>> some GitHub experts here.  Indulge me for a moment to ask a question about
>> GitHub and what it can "do for me." (In my defense, SpamBayes is a
>> Python-based project.)
>> I'm one of the SpamBayes developers (http://www.spambayes.org/), but we
>> have all moved onto other things.  Consequently, it's been pretty dormant
>> for at least three or four years.  The bulk of the infrequent questions
>> sent to the spambayes at python.org mailing list these days relate to the
>> Outlook plugin which Mark Hammond, Tim Peters and Tony Meyer developed.  (I
>> think it's telling that Outlook users still have no better spam filtering
>> solution than a long dormant open source tool, but that's a conversation
>> for another day.)  As you probably know, Windows hasn't stood still over
>> the past few years.  We've had Windows 7, Windows 8, 64-bit versions of
>> Outlook, and who knows what all else.  Consequently, it can be challenging
>> for your typical Windows user to get SpamBayes installed and functioning,
>> if, in fact, they even can.  More commonly, people upgrade their OS or
>> Outlook versions and find SpamBayes stops working.
>> During a recent thread about SpamBayes' (lack of) Windows support, one
>> correspondent wrote:
>> *This is where you officially move the project(s) to GitHub and pay
>> attention to pull requests.  You're more likely to get people contributing
>> on GitHub than SourceForge.  Forking, modifying, and submitting pull
>> requests is just as easy as merging and accepting the pull request into the
>> main branch.  If you don't want to do any development (the hard part
>> anyway), the key is to stay on top of pull requests and don't let them sit
>> around in the queue for more than a couple weeks.  The work on your end
>> becomes rather minimal - taking more of a hands-off managerial role.*
>>  It seemed to me that the author was suggesting that if I would just move
>> the project to GitHub, all my cares will disappear.  Elves with Windows
>> experience will sneak into my workshop at night and solve all my problems,
>> leaving pull requests for me to respond to in the morning.  As you might
>> expect, I'm just a little skeptical.
>>  What do the assembled GitHub experts think?  Will Windows elves
>> magically appear to fix Windows support if I simply move SpamBayes from
>> SourceForge to GitHub?  Where will these pull requests come from?  Do I
>> need to come up with a clever Super Bowl commercial to attract developers?
>>  Thanks,
>>  Skip
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