From brianhray at gmail.com Wed Jan 2 16:28:56 2013 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 09:28:56 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Happy 2013 Message-ID: Happy new year. This will be the best year ever! Sounds like we have Tal on board for next weeks highly anticipated meeting. Tal is famous for pushing things to a new level and this one sounds no different. We are now looking for an awesome venue. Any preferences Tal? -- Brian Ray @brianray (773) 669-7717 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brianhray at gmail.com Wed Jan 2 17:46:46 2013 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 10:46:46 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Happy 2013 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey folks, We *do* have a host for next week's meeting. It is the Nerdery! Can I see a +1? Thanks, Brian On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > Happy new year. This will be the best year ever! > > Sounds like we have Tal on board for next weeks highly anticipated > meeting. Tal is famous for pushing things to a new level and this one > sounds no different. We are now looking for an awesome venue. Any > preferences Tal? > > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > -- Brian Ray @brianray (773) 669-7717 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From emperorcezar at gmail.com Wed Jan 2 17:48:32 2013 From: emperorcezar at gmail.com (Adam "Cezar" Jenkins) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 10:48:32 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Happy 2013 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: +1 On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > Hey folks, > > We *do* have a host for next week's meeting. It is the Nerdery! Can I see a > +1? > > Thanks, Brian > > > On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >> >> Happy new year. This will be the best year ever! >> >> Sounds like we have Tal on board for next weeks highly anticipated >> meeting. Tal is famous for pushing things to a new level and this one sounds >> no different. We are now looking for an awesome venue. Any preferences Tal? >> >> >> -- >> Brian Ray >> @brianray >> (773) 669-7717 > > > > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > From zitterbewegung at gmail.com Wed Jan 2 17:59:52 2013 From: zitterbewegung at gmail.com (Joshua Herman) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 10:59:52 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Happy 2013 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: +1 ---Profile:--- http://www.google.com/profiles/zitterbewegung On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins wrote: > +1 > > On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >> Hey folks, >> >> We *do* have a host for next week's meeting. It is the Nerdery! Can I see a >> +1? >> >> Thanks, Brian >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >>> >>> Happy new year. This will be the best year ever! >>> >>> Sounds like we have Tal on board for next weeks highly anticipated >>> meeting. Tal is famous for pushing things to a new level and this one sounds >>> no different. We are now looking for an awesome venue. Any preferences Tal? >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Brian Ray >>> @brianray >>> (773) 669-7717 >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Brian Ray >> @brianray >> (773) 669-7717 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago From jp at zavteq.com Wed Jan 2 18:53:45 2013 From: jp at zavteq.com (JP Bader) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 11:53:45 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Happy 2013 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: +1 On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Joshua Herman wrote: > +1 > ---Profile:--- > http://www.google.com/profiles/zitterbewegung > > > > On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins > wrote: >> +1 >> >> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >>> Hey folks, >>> >>> We *do* have a host for next week's meeting. It is the Nerdery! Can I see a >>> +1? >>> >>> Thanks, Brian >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >>>> >>>> Happy new year. This will be the best year ever! >>>> >>>> Sounds like we have Tal on board for next weeks highly anticipated >>>> meeting. Tal is famous for pushing things to a new level and this one sounds >>>> no different. We are now looking for an awesome venue. Any preferences Tal? >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Brian Ray >>>> @brianray >>>> (773) 669-7717 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Brian Ray >>> @brianray >>> (773) 669-7717 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -- JP Bader Principal Zavteq, Inc. @lordB8r | jp at zavteq.com 608.692.2468 From gkettler at gmail.com Wed Jan 2 18:54:22 2013 From: gkettler at gmail.com (Greg Kettler) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 11:54:22 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Happy 2013 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: +1 On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Joshua Herman wrote: > +1 > ---Profile:--- > http://www.google.com/profiles/zitterbewegung > > > > On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins > wrote: >> +1 >> >> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >>> Hey folks, >>> >>> We *do* have a host for next week's meeting. It is the Nerdery! Can I see a >>> +1? >>> >>> Thanks, Brian >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >>>> >>>> Happy new year. This will be the best year ever! >>>> >>>> Sounds like we have Tal on board for next weeks highly anticipated >>>> meeting. Tal is famous for pushing things to a new level and this one sounds >>>> no different. We are now looking for an awesome venue. Any preferences Tal? >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Brian Ray >>>> @brianray >>>> (773) 669-7717 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Brian Ray >>> @brianray >>> (773) 669-7717 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago From tal.liron at threecrickets.com Wed Jan 2 19:09:36 2013 From: tal.liron at threecrickets.com (Tal Liron) Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2013 12:09:36 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Happy 2013 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <50E477E0.9050501@threecrickets.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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There's a lot of > interest from outside Chicago in this topic. > > -Tal > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -- Brian Ray @brianray (773) 669-7717 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shekay at pobox.com Wed Jan 2 23:23:44 2013 From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 16:23:44 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Happy 2013 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Where is the Nerdery? googly finds http://nerdery.com/contact The Nerdery 300 N Elizabeth St Suite 500C Chicago, IL 60607 That place? On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > Hey folks, > > We *do* have a host for next week's meeting. It is the Nerdery! Can I see a > +1? > > Thanks, Brian > > > On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >> >> Happy new year. This will be the best year ever! >> >> Sounds like we have Tal on board for next weeks highly anticipated >> meeting. Tal is famous for pushing things to a new level and this one sounds >> no different. We are now looking for an awesome venue. Any preferences Tal? >> >> >> -- >> Brian Ray >> @brianray >> (773) 669-7717 > > > > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- sheila From robert.sulzer at gmail.com Wed Jan 2 23:34:51 2013 From: robert.sulzer at gmail.com (Robert Sulzer) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 16:34:51 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Happy 2013 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: +1 Great place to have a meeting. I want to see their Gotham City conference room.. On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 4:23 PM, sheila miguez wrote: > Where is the Nerdery? > > googly finds > http://nerdery.com/contact > > The Nerdery > 300 N Elizabeth St > Suite 500C > Chicago, IL 60607 > > That place? > > On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > > Hey folks, > > > > We *do* have a host for next week's meeting. It is the Nerdery! Can I > see a > > +1? > > > > Thanks, Brian > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > >> > >> Happy new year. This will be the best year ever! > >> > >> Sounds like we have Tal on board for next weeks highly anticipated > >> meeting. Tal is famous for pushing things to a new level and this one > sounds > >> no different. We are now looking for an awesome venue. Any preferences > Tal? > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Brian Ray > >> @brianray > >> (773) 669-7717 > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Brian Ray > > @brianray > > (773) 669-7717 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > > -- > sheila > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From emperorcezar at gmail.com Wed Jan 2 23:36:09 2013 From: emperorcezar at gmail.com (Adam "Cezar" Jenkins) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 16:36:09 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Happy 2013 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yup. That's the place. On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 4:23 PM, sheila miguez wrote: > Where is the Nerdery? > > googly finds > http://nerdery.com/contact > > The Nerdery > 300 N Elizabeth St > Suite 500C > Chicago, IL 60607 > > That place? > > On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >> Hey folks, >> >> We *do* have a host for next week's meeting. It is the Nerdery! Can I see a >> +1? >> >> Thanks, Brian >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >>> >>> Happy new year. This will be the best year ever! >>> >>> Sounds like we have Tal on board for next weeks highly anticipated >>> meeting. Tal is famous for pushing things to a new level and this one sounds >>> no different. We are now looking for an awesome venue. Any preferences Tal? >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Brian Ray >>> @brianray >>> (773) 669-7717 >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Brian Ray >> @brianray >> (773) 669-7717 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > > > -- > sheila > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago From shekay at pobox.com Wed Jan 2 23:42:43 2013 From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 16:42:43 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Happy 2013 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sounds interesting. I've heard that Carl is going to record some event in Montreal at some point this month, but I don't know if it collides with Chipy or not. I just bugged him to get him to check. Assuming he can record Chipy (hopefully) then he needs contact with the host so that he can work out logistics (e.g. have access to loading docks, learn what type of hookups are available in the meeting room, etc.). I don't remember if we've had a meeting at the Nerdery before, so Carl might not already know all of that stuff. On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins wrote: > Yup. That's the place. > > On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 4:23 PM, sheila miguez wrote: >> Where is the Nerdery? >> >> googly finds >> http://nerdery.com/contact >> >> The Nerdery >> 300 N Elizabeth St >> Suite 500C >> Chicago, IL 60607 >> >> That place? >> >> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >>> Hey folks, >>> >>> We *do* have a host for next week's meeting. It is the Nerdery! Can I see a >>> +1? >>> >>> Thanks, Brian >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >>>> >>>> Happy new year. This will be the best year ever! >>>> >>>> Sounds like we have Tal on board for next weeks highly anticipated >>>> meeting. Tal is famous for pushing things to a new level and this one sounds >>>> no different. We are now looking for an awesome venue. Any preferences Tal? >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Brian Ray >>>> @brianray >>>> (773) 669-7717 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Brian Ray >>> @brianray >>> (773) 669-7717 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> sheila >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -- sheila From brianhray at gmail.com Wed Jan 2 23:47:52 2013 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 16:47:52 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Happy 2013 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I am not sure if the host is on this list or listening to this thread so I just made an introduction off the list. Regards, Brian On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 4:42 PM, sheila miguez wrote: > Sounds interesting. > > I've heard that Carl is going to record some event in Montreal at some > point this month, but I don't know if it collides with Chipy or not. I > just bugged him to get him to check. > > Assuming he can record Chipy (hopefully) then he needs contact with > the host so that he can work out logistics (e.g. have access to > loading docks, learn what type of hookups are available in the meeting > room, etc.). I don't remember if we've had a meeting at the Nerdery > before, so Carl might not already know all of that stuff. > > > On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins > wrote: > > Yup. That's the place. > > > > On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 4:23 PM, sheila miguez wrote: > >> Where is the Nerdery? > >> > >> googly finds > >> http://nerdery.com/contact > >> > >> The Nerdery > >> 300 N Elizabeth St > >> Suite 500C > >> Chicago, IL 60607 > >> > >> That place? > >> > >> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > >>> Hey folks, > >>> > >>> We *do* have a host for next week's meeting. It is the Nerdery! Can I > see a > >>> +1? > >>> > >>> Thanks, Brian > >>> > >>> > >>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Happy new year. This will be the best year ever! > >>>> > >>>> Sounds like we have Tal on board for next weeks highly anticipated > >>>> meeting. Tal is famous for pushing things to a new level and this one > sounds > >>>> no different. We are now looking for an awesome venue. Any > preferences Tal? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Brian Ray > >>>> @brianray > >>>> (773) 669-7717 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Brian Ray > >>> @brianray > >>> (773) 669-7717 > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Chicago mailing list > >>> Chicago at python.org > >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> sheila > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Chicago mailing list > >> Chicago at python.org > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > -- > sheila > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- Brian Ray @brianray (773) 669-7717 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From danieltpeters at gmail.com Wed Jan 2 23:52:21 2013 From: danieltpeters at gmail.com (Daniel Peters) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 16:52:21 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Happy 2013 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: fwiw, if I remember correctly, they've got some level of AV going on. I know they have a projector. They do a weekly video thing with beer on friday, so they might have a camera too? On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > I am not sure if the host is on this list or listening to this thread so I > just made an introduction off the list. > > Regards, Brian > > > On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 4:42 PM, sheila miguez wrote: > >> Sounds interesting. >> >> I've heard that Carl is going to record some event in Montreal at some >> point this month, but I don't know if it collides with Chipy or not. I >> just bugged him to get him to check. >> >> Assuming he can record Chipy (hopefully) then he needs contact with >> the host so that he can work out logistics (e.g. have access to >> loading docks, learn what type of hookups are available in the meeting >> room, etc.). I don't remember if we've had a meeting at the Nerdery >> before, so Carl might not already know all of that stuff. >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins >> wrote: >> > Yup. That's the place. >> > >> > On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 4:23 PM, sheila miguez wrote: >> >> Where is the Nerdery? >> >> >> >> googly finds >> >> http://nerdery.com/contact >> >> >> >> The Nerdery >> >> 300 N Elizabeth St >> >> Suite 500C >> >> Chicago, IL 60607 >> >> >> >> That place? >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Brian Ray >> wrote: >> >>> Hey folks, >> >>> >> >>> We *do* have a host for next week's meeting. It is the Nerdery! Can I >> see a >> >>> +1? >> >>> >> >>> Thanks, Brian >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Brian Ray >> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> Happy new year. This will be the best year ever! >> >>>> >> >>>> Sounds like we have Tal on board for next weeks highly anticipated >> >>>> meeting. Tal is famous for pushing things to a new level and this >> one sounds >> >>>> no different. We are now looking for an awesome venue. Any >> preferences Tal? >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> -- >> >>>> Brian Ray >> >>>> @brianray >> >>>> (773) 669-7717 >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Brian Ray >> >>> @brianray >> >>> (773) 669-7717 >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Chicago mailing list >> >>> Chicago at python.org >> >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> sheila >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Chicago mailing list >> >> Chicago at python.org >> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Chicago mailing list >> > Chicago at python.org >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> >> >> -- >> sheila >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robert.sulzer at gmail.com Wed Jan 2 23:56:24 2013 From: robert.sulzer at gmail.com (Robert Sulzer) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 16:56:24 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Happy 2013 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My buddy works there and says that they have AV equipment and a camera as well. On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Daniel Peters wrote: > fwiw, if I remember correctly, they've got some level of AV going on. I > know they have a projector. They do a weekly video thing with beer on > friday, so they might have a camera too? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pete at wearpants.org Thu Jan 3 16:07:36 2013 From: pete at wearpants.org (Peter Fein) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 10:07:36 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Work for Hire? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Getting rolling with my freelance software development business after a short delay. Thanks again to everyone on this list for the advice & support, it's been invaluable & deeply appreciated. I wanted to ask about work for hire/copyright assignment clauses- I'm used to seeing these as an employee, but it seems the rules are a bit different for contract work. My generally awesome new lawyer said not to included it in my contract, and to charge more if a client wants it. What's typical? More on work for hire: basically, as an author, you retain full copyright in your creations by default, even if they're commissioned (payer is granted a license to use). With work for hire, you assign all rights to the client. Http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Work_for_hire http://www.keepyourcopyrights.org/copyright/rights/work-for-hire After a bit more reading, it's not clear work for hire is even legally applicable for software, and assigning rights like this may turn the freelance relationship into an employee one?! http://www.metrocorpcounsel.com/articles/9954/work-hire-doctrine-almost-never-works-software-development-contracts http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/default.asp?biz.5.736364.4 Blech, copyright. Help? Pete -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From emperorcezar at gmail.com Thu Jan 3 16:19:37 2013 From: emperorcezar at gmail.com (Adam "Cezar" Jenkins) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 09:19:37 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Work for Hire? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I know that typically the arrangement for webdev is that work you do is under your copyright. Then at the end of the contract you sell those rights on contract completion. It's typically done this way so that you have leverage. If the client doesn't pay. You have the right to take down the site since it's all your copyright. Of course IANAL, and I don't do much contract work. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Peter Fein wrote: > Getting rolling with my freelance software development business after a > short delay. Thanks again to everyone on this list for the advice & support, > it's been invaluable & deeply appreciated. > > I wanted to ask about work for hire/copyright assignment clauses- I'm used > to seeing these as an employee, but it seems the rules are a bit different > for contract work. My generally awesome new lawyer said not to included it > in my contract, and to charge more if a client wants it. What's typical? > > More on work for hire: basically, as an author, you retain full copyright in > your creations by default, even if they're commissioned (payer is granted a > license to use). With work for hire, you assign all rights to the client. > > Http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Work_for_hire > http://www.keepyourcopyrights.org/copyright/rights/work-for-hire > > After a bit more reading, it's not clear work for hire is even legally > applicable for software, and assigning rights like this may turn the > freelance relationship into an employee one?! > > http://www.metrocorpcounsel.com/articles/9954/work-hire-doctrine-almost-never-works-software-development-contracts > http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/default.asp?biz.5.736364.4 > > Blech, copyright. Help? > > Pete > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > From wilson.tamarrie at gmail.com Thu Jan 3 18:15:26 2013 From: wilson.tamarrie at gmail.com (T Wilson) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 11:15:26 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Happy 2013 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Are we meeting This week? On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Robert Sulzer wrote: > My buddy works there and says that they have AV equipment and a camera as > well. > > On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Daniel Peters wrote: > >> fwiw, if I remember correctly, they've got some level of AV going on. I >> know they have a projector. They do a weekly video thing with beer on >> friday, so they might have a camera too? > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From laserschgo at comcast.net Thu Jan 3 18:15:10 2013 From: laserschgo at comcast.net (Mike Werner) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 11:15:10 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Work for Hire? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000e01cde9d5$e3114c80$a933e580$@net> Hi Pete, I would suggest pricing your services to include the "work for hire" included. 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From: Chicago [mailto:chicago-bounces+laserschgo=comcast.net at python.org] On Behalf Of Peter Fein Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 9:08 AM To: chicago at python.org Subject: [Chicago] Work for Hire? Getting rolling with my freelance software development business after a short delay. Thanks again to everyone on this list for the advice & support, it's been invaluable & deeply appreciated. I wanted to ask about work for hire/copyright assignment clauses- I'm used to seeing these as an employee, but it seems the rules are a bit different for contract work. My generally awesome new lawyer said not to included it in my contract, and to charge more if a client wants it. What's typical? More on work for hire: basically, as an author, you retain full copyright in your creations by default, even if they're commissioned (payer is granted a license to use). With work for hire, you assign all rights to the client. Http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Work_for_hire http://www.keepyourcopyrights.org/copyright/rights/work-for-hire After a bit more reading, it's not clear work for hire is even legally applicable for software, and assigning rights like this may turn the freelance relationship into an employee one?! http://www.metrocorpcounsel.com/articles/9954/work-hire-doctrine-almost-neve r-works-software-development-contracts http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/default.asp?biz.5.736364.4 Blech, copyright. Help? Pete -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From shekay at pobox.com Thu Jan 3 19:30:02 2013 From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 12:30:02 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] pandas/pydata workshop/sprint proposal Message-ID: This workshop that happened recently in nyc looks like fun and I'd like to participate in something like that. https://openhatch.org/blog/2012/pandas-pydata-workshop-in-nyc/ If no one steps up to run one for me to participate in, it is something I could try to organize but I'll need to bug people for there to be some ratio of volunteers to attendees. We also would need to apply for a psf grant if we need to fly anyone out to run it like the nyc group did unless there is someone who can fill the roles of Asheesh and Chang She did. I know some of you have enough knowledge to demo pandas and walk through it (I've done some log scrapping to get data in to a form such that I could use pandas on it) but what I want is someone(s) with the knowledge + teaching ability + sprint leader ability + time. Maybe a half or full day with some prep time at a python office hours ahead of the workshop. -- sheila From randy7771026 at gmail.com Thu Jan 3 19:48:35 2013 From: randy7771026 at gmail.com (Randy Baxley) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 12:48:35 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] pandas/pydata workshop/sprint proposal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Question: raises hand. Being as I am still only a student of Python and maybe also thinking Django may be something a developer wants in their bag this is truly just a naive question. Do you want the Sprint to be in Panda and where would one find what type of applications it is that would cause us to have an interest in Panda? On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 12:30 PM, sheila miguez wrote: > This workshop that happened recently in nyc looks like fun and I'd > like to participate in something like that. > > https://openhatch.org/blog/2012/pandas-pydata-workshop-in-nyc/ > > If no one steps up to run one for me to participate in, it is > something I could try to organize but I'll need to bug people for > there to be some ratio of volunteers to attendees. We also would need > to apply for a psf grant if we need to fly anyone out to run it like > the nyc group did unless there is someone who can fill the roles of > Asheesh and Chang She did. I know some of you have enough knowledge to > demo pandas and walk through it (I've done some log scrapping to get > data in to a form such that I could use pandas on it) but what I want > is someone(s) with the knowledge + teaching ability + sprint leader > ability + time. Maybe a half or full day with some prep time at a > python office hours ahead of the workshop. > > > -- > sheila > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dnfehrenbach at gmail.com Thu Jan 3 19:51:44 2013 From: dnfehrenbach at gmail.com (Daniel Fehrenbach) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 12:51:44 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] pandas/pydata workshop/sprint proposal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I don't have the expertise to lead the group but would really like to participate/help make this happen. Dan On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Randy Baxley wrote: > Question: raises hand. > > Being as I am still only a student of Python and maybe also thinking Django > may be something a developer wants in their bag this is truly just a naive > question. Do you want the Sprint to be in Panda and where would one find > what type of applications it is that would cause us to have an interest in > Panda? > > > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 12:30 PM, sheila miguez wrote: >> >> This workshop that happened recently in nyc looks like fun and I'd >> like to participate in something like that. >> >> https://openhatch.org/blog/2012/pandas-pydata-workshop-in-nyc/ >> >> If no one steps up to run one for me to participate in, it is >> something I could try to organize but I'll need to bug people for >> there to be some ratio of volunteers to attendees. We also would need >> to apply for a psf grant if we need to fly anyone out to run it like >> the nyc group did unless there is someone who can fill the roles of >> Asheesh and Chang She did. I know some of you have enough knowledge to >> demo pandas and walk through it (I've done some log scrapping to get >> data in to a form such that I could use pandas on it) but what I want >> is someone(s) with the knowledge + teaching ability + sprint leader >> ability + time. Maybe a half or full day with some prep time at a >> python office hours ahead of the workshop. >> >> >> -- >> sheila >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > From brian at python.org Thu Jan 3 20:00:50 2013 From: brian at python.org (Brian Curtin) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 13:00:50 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] pandas/pydata workshop/sprint proposal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Randy Baxley wrote: > Question: raises hand. > > Being as I am still only a student of Python and maybe also thinking Django > may be something a developer wants in their bag this is truly just a naive > question. Do you want the Sprint to be in Panda and where would one find > what type of applications it is that would cause us to have an interest in > Panda? Django is for web development, Pandas is for data analysis. From randy7771026 at gmail.com Thu Jan 3 20:25:40 2013 From: randy7771026 at gmail.com (Randy Baxley) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 13:25:40 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] pandas/pydata workshop/sprint proposal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Like SPSS or like Mathematica or something else? On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Brian Curtin wrote: > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Randy Baxley > wrote: > > Question: raises hand. > > > > Being as I am still only a student of Python and maybe also thinking > Django > > may be something a developer wants in their bag this is truly just a > naive > > question. Do you want the Sprint to be in Panda and where would one find > > what type of applications it is that would cause us to have an interest > in > > Panda? > > Django is for web development, Pandas is for data analysis. > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joe at germuska.com Thu Jan 3 20:38:22 2013 From: joe at germuska.com (Joe Germuska) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 13:38:22 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] pandas/pydata workshop/sprint proposal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Randy Baxley wrote: > Like SPSS or like Mathematica or something else? > Something like SPSS. More like R, I think. I'm pretty sure pandas was written mostly as a response to R's wonky syntax. I am pretty noob in pandas, but aspire to be more than that. I'd love to see an event. I'd help how I can, acknowledging my pretty novice status. (I've poked through Wes's book for O'Reilly, but haven't really tried to solve real problems) Joe -- Joe Germuska Joe at Germuska.com * http://blog.germuska.com "I felt so good I told the leader how to follow." -- Sly Stone -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shekay at pobox.com Thu Jan 3 20:39:01 2013 From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 13:39:01 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] pandas/pydata workshop/sprint proposal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Similar. Read the blog post about the workshop to see what they did so that you can get a better idea on what a pandas sprint entails. There was a quick intro, and then people worked on bite sized tasks from . If you are curious about how someone has used it, with a very quick quick intro, see this talk at PyCon Canada about it. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Randy Baxley wrote: > Like SPSS or like Mathematica or something else? > > > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Brian Curtin wrote: >> >> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Randy Baxley >> wrote: >> > Question: raises hand. >> > >> > Being as I am still only a student of Python and maybe also thinking >> > Django >> > may be something a developer wants in their bag this is truly just a >> > naive >> > question. Do you want the Sprint to be in Panda and where would one >> > find >> > what type of applications it is that would cause us to have an interest >> > in >> > Panda? >> >> Django is for web development, Pandas is for data analysis. -- sheila From dnfehrenbach at gmail.com Thu Jan 3 20:39:59 2013 From: dnfehrenbach at gmail.com (Daniel Fehrenbach) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 13:39:59 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] pandas/pydata workshop/sprint proposal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://pandas.pydata.org It's less like specific math software and more like R, if you are familiar with that. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Randy Baxley wrote: > Like SPSS or like Mathematica or something else? > > > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Brian Curtin wrote: >> >> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Randy Baxley >> wrote: >> > Question: raises hand. >> > >> > Being as I am still only a student of Python and maybe also thinking >> > Django >> > may be something a developer wants in their bag this is truly just a >> > naive >> > question. Do you want the Sprint to be in Panda and where would one >> > find >> > what type of applications it is that would cause us to have an interest >> > in >> > Panda? >> >> Django is for web development, Pandas is for data analysis. >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > From trubetskoy.vasa at gmail.com Thu Jan 3 20:44:33 2013 From: trubetskoy.vasa at gmail.com (Vasily Trubetskoy) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 13:44:33 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] pandas/pydata workshop/sprint proposal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: With my limited experience with Pandas, it is quite similar to R in that it aims to be an environment in which data analysis is performed. Sounds vague, but R and pandas solve some common problems when getting a feel for a data set: simple regression, applying a kernel across some data, plotting, etc. A big draw is supporting libraries for stuff like statistics, and data structures (dataframes!) that support these common tasks. I would be very interested in attending something like this! vasa On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Randy Baxley wrote: > Like SPSS or like Mathematica or something else? > > > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Brian Curtin wrote: > >> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Randy Baxley >> wrote: >> > Question: raises hand. >> > >> > Being as I am still only a student of Python and maybe also thinking >> Django >> > may be something a developer wants in their bag this is truly just a >> naive >> > question. Do you want the Sprint to be in Panda and where would one >> find >> > what type of applications it is that would cause us to have an interest >> in >> > Panda? >> >> Django is for web development, Pandas is for data analysis. >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shekay at pobox.com Thu Jan 3 20:45:38 2013 From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 13:45:38 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] pandas/pydata workshop/sprint proposal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Spiffy, it sounds like more than one (me) person is interested. So I will say that I can help presuming we have some people helping like Asheesh or another wonderful person from OpenHatch. He estimates that the local person who wanted the event spent 20% on organizational stuff versus 80% on participating, and I can deal with that. Assuming Redhat is willing to host (They hosted a python workshop for me and their space was excellent!) then we will have room for aprox 25 people. So, I should figure out pre-reqs for the event. I will need to talk to OpenHatch folks for a tack on that. If someone else can do the 20% bit, then we can have this soon (sometime in January?) if other people are available, else it would be sometimes in the first quarter of this year (March has Pycon and Pycon sprints!). On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Joe Germuska wrote: > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Randy Baxley wrote: >> >> Like SPSS or like Mathematica or something else? > > > Something like SPSS. More like R, I think. I'm pretty sure pandas was > written mostly as a response to R's wonky syntax. > > I am pretty noob in pandas, but aspire to be more than that. I'd love to see > an event. I'd help how I can, acknowledging my pretty novice status. (I've > poked through Wes's book for O'Reilly, but haven't really tried to solve > real problems) > > Joe > > -- > Joe Germuska > Joe at Germuska.com * http://blog.germuska.com > > "I felt so good I told the leader how to follow." > -- Sly Stone > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- sheila From shekay at pobox.com Thu Jan 3 20:55:54 2013 From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 13:55:54 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] pandas/pydata workshop/sprint proposal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: btw I've done something similar but less sophisticated than Taavi (he knows more about pandas and plotting things etc.) for analysing log data from orbitz logs. Before I found out about pandas I was doing things by hand using numpy and matplotlib mostly and some hand rolled things to spit out tables in our wiki format (confluence). nothing enough for me to give a chipy talk on. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:39 PM, sheila miguez wrote: > Similar. > > Read the blog post about the workshop to see what they did so that you > can get a better idea on what a pandas sprint entails. There was a > quick intro, and then people worked on bite sized tasks from > . > > If you are curious about how someone has used it, with a very quick > quick intro, see this talk at PyCon Canada about it. > > > > > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Randy Baxley wrote: >> Like SPSS or like Mathematica or something else? >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Brian Curtin wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Randy Baxley >>> wrote: >>> > Question: raises hand. >>> > >>> > Being as I am still only a student of Python and maybe also thinking >>> > Django >>> > may be something a developer wants in their bag this is truly just a >>> > naive >>> > question. Do you want the Sprint to be in Panda and where would one >>> > find >>> > what type of applications it is that would cause us to have an interest >>> > in >>> > Panda? >>> >>> Django is for web development, Pandas is for data analysis. > > > > > -- > sheila -- sheila From randy7771026 at gmail.com Fri Jan 4 01:08:44 2013 From: randy7771026 at gmail.com (Randy Baxley) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 18:08:44 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Music for Pythonating Message-ID: I have been very much enjoying Joe's archives while doing mini projects for the Rice Course. Joe Germuska > Joe at Germuska.com * http://blog.germuska.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From danieltpeters at gmail.com Fri Jan 4 01:17:21 2013 From: danieltpeters at gmail.com (Daniel Peters) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 18:17:21 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] anyone else going to chipy office hours? Message-ID: is it still going on tonight? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carl at personnelware.com Fri Jan 4 01:26:19 2013 From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 18:26:19 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] anyone else going to chipy office hours? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 3 of us are here now :) On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Daniel Peters wrote: > is it still going on tonight? > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- Carl K From shekay at pobox.com Fri Jan 4 01:30:20 2013 From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 18:30:20 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] anyone else going to chipy office hours? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: In fact we are here early! omg! On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: > 3 of us are here now :) > > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Daniel Peters wrote: >> is it still going on tonight? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > > > -- > Carl K > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -- sheila From danieltpeters at gmail.com Fri Jan 4 02:24:37 2013 From: danieltpeters at gmail.com (Daniel Peters) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 19:24:37 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] anyone else going to chipy office hours? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: just had dinner, on my way now! On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 6:30 PM, sheila miguez wrote: > In fact we are here early! omg! > > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Carl Karsten > wrote: > > 3 of us are here now :) > > > > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Daniel Peters > wrote: > >> is it still going on tonight? > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Chicago mailing list > >> Chicago at python.org > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Carl K > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > -- > sheila > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 7:24 PM, Daniel Peters wrote: > just had dinner, on my way now! > > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 6:30 PM, sheila miguez wrote: > >> In fact we are here early! omg! >> >> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Carl Karsten >> wrote: >> > 3 of us are here now :) >> > >> > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Daniel Peters >> wrote: >> >> is it still going on tonight? >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Chicago mailing list >> >> Chicago at python.org >> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Carl K >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Chicago mailing list >> > Chicago at python.org >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> >> >> -- >> sheila >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:19 PM, T Wilson wrote: > Wait i asked if we were meeting today. what happen? > > > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 7:24 PM, Daniel Peters > wrote: >> >> just had dinner, on my way now! >> >> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 6:30 PM, sheila miguez wrote: >>> >>> In fact we are here early! omg! >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Carl Karsten >>> wrote: >>> > 3 of us are here now :) >>> > >>> > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Daniel Peters >>> > wrote: >>> >> is it still going on tonight? >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Chicago mailing list >>> >> Chicago at python.org >>> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Carl K >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Chicago mailing list >>> > Chicago at python.org >>> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> sheila >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- Carl K From shekay at pobox.com Fri Jan 4 03:22:48 2013 From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 20:22:48 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] anyone else going to chipy office hours? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It's not chipy today, it's python office hours at ps1 http://wiki.pumpingstationone.org/Python_Office_Hours On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:19 PM, T Wilson wrote: > Wait i asked if we were meeting today. what happen? > > > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 7:24 PM, Daniel Peters > wrote: >> >> just had dinner, on my way now! >> >> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 6:30 PM, sheila miguez wrote: >>> >>> In fact we are here early! omg! >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Carl Karsten >>> wrote: >>> > 3 of us are here now :) >>> > >>> > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Daniel Peters >>> > wrote: >>> >> is it still going on tonight? >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Chicago mailing list >>> >> Chicago at python.org >>> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Carl K >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Chicago mailing list >>> > Chicago at python.org >>> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> sheila >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- sheila From tathagatadg at gmail.com Fri Jan 4 20:21:26 2013 From: tathagatadg at gmail.com (Tathagata Dasgupta) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 13:21:26 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Python Equivalent of Effective Java Message-ID: Hello folks, I was reading Joshua Bloch's Effective Java and wondering if there's similar book for Python. If there is none, what would you suggest reading to avoid common pitfalls and write better python? -- Cheers, T -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From livne at uchicago.edu Fri Jan 4 23:11:25 2013 From: livne at uchicago.edu (Oren Livne) Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2013 16:11:25 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Closest Index Message-ID: <50E7538D.6040509@uchicago.edu> Dear All, I have an sorted array A of size 3.4M of positive integers and an array B of size 300,000 of positive integers. I would like to output for each x in B the value in A that is closest to it. This is easy to do for a single element, but I need an efficient implementation for the entire of B. Any suggestions? Thanks, Oren -- A person is just about as big as the things that make him angry. From dgriff1 at gmail.com Sat Jan 5 00:01:17 2013 From: dgriff1 at gmail.com (Daniel Griffin) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 16:01:17 -0700 Subject: [Chicago] Closest Index In-Reply-To: <50E7538D.6040509@uchicago.edu> References: <50E7538D.6040509@uchicago.edu> Message-ID: You can keep partitioning A until you find whatever "close" means. Since A is sorted you can keep splitting it in half until you find what you want. If B is also sorted you could keep restricting where you search in A by the position of the last thing you found in A. On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Oren Livne wrote: > Dear All, > > I have an sorted array A of size 3.4M of positive integers and an array B > of size 300,000 of positive integers. I would like to output for each x in > B the value in A that is closest to it. This is easy to do for a single > element, but I need an efficient implementation for the entire of B. Any > suggestions? > > Thanks, > Oren > > -- > A person is just about as big as the things that make him angry. > > ______________________________**_________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brianhray at gmail.com Sat Jan 5 00:01:31 2013 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 17:01:31 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Closest Index In-Reply-To: <50E7538D.6040509@uchicago.edu> References: <50E7538D.6040509@uchicago.edu> Message-ID: Maybe you can use numpy abs for each in b using map after sort? Just take A - (value in b) run abs an then .argmin(). That should return the index that is closest in A. On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Oren Livne wrote: > Dear All, > > I have an sorted array A of size 3.4M of positive integers and an array B > of size 300,000 of positive integers. I would like to output for each x in > B the value in A that is closest to it. This is easy to do for a single > element, but I need an efficient implementation for the entire of B. Any > suggestions? > > Thanks, > Oren > > -- > A person is just about as big as the things that make him angry. > > ______________________________**_________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- Brian Ray @brianray (773) 669-7717 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rajeshxsankaran at gmail.com Sat Jan 5 00:20:21 2013 From: rajeshxsankaran at gmail.com (Rajesh Sankaran) Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2013 17:20:21 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Closest Index In-Reply-To: <50E7538D.6040509@uchicago.edu> References: <50E7538D.6040509@uchicago.edu> Message-ID: What about sorting B ( cost - O(nlog(n)))? Once sorted, as you advance in B array, your A pointer will only move forward. You will go through each of the two arrays only once (cost O(m+n)). -- Raj On Fri, 04 Jan 2013 16:11:25 -0600, Oren Livne wrote: > Dear All, > > I have an sorted array A of size 3.4M of positive integers and an array > B of size 300,000 of positive integers. I would like to output for each > x in B the value in A that is closest to it. This is easy to do for a > single element, but I need an efficient implementation for the entire of > B. Any suggestions? > > Thanks, > Oren From livne at uchicago.edu Sat Jan 5 14:13:08 2013 From: livne at uchicago.edu (Oren Livne) Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2013 07:13:08 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Closest Index In-Reply-To: References: <50E7538D.6040509@uchicago.edu> Message-ID: <50E826E4.3010502@uchicago.edu> Thanks so much to all of you! I can sort B and sweep through both arrays once, as suggest. Oren On 1/4/2013 5:20 PM, Rajesh Sankaran wrote: > What about sorting B ( cost - O(nlog(n)))? Once sorted, as you > advance in B array, your A pointer will only move forward. > You will go through each of the two arrays only once (cost O(m+n)). > > -- > Raj > > On Fri, 04 Jan 2013 16:11:25 -0600, Oren Livne > wrote: > >> Dear All, >> >> I have an sorted array A of size 3.4M of positive integers and an >> array B of size 300,000 of positive integers. I would like to output >> for each x in B the value in A that is closest to it. This is easy to >> do for a single element, but I need an efficient implementation for >> the entire of B. Any suggestions? >> >> Thanks, >> Oren -- A person is just about as big as the things that make him angry. From shekay at pobox.com Sat Jan 5 16:21:06 2013 From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez) Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2013 09:21:06 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Closest Index In-Reply-To: <50E826E4.3010502@uchicago.edu> References: <50E7538D.6040509@uchicago.edu> <50E826E4.3010502@uchicago.edu> Message-ID: I have naive questions. How did A get constructed? If an example of integers in A is 1,1,2,3,3,3 is it a list of that, or a counter 2,1,3 or something else? What is the distribution of A? When you do the work do you have to construct A every time or will it live around for a while? On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 7:13 AM, Oren Livne wrote: > Thanks so much to all of you! I can sort B and sweep through both arrays > once, as suggest. > Oren > > > On 1/4/2013 5:20 PM, Rajesh Sankaran wrote: >> >> What about sorting B ( cost - O(nlog(n)))? Once sorted, as you advance in >> B array, your A pointer will only move forward. >> You will go through each of the two arrays only once (cost O(m+n)). >> >> -- >> Raj >> >> On Fri, 04 Jan 2013 16:11:25 -0600, Oren Livne wrote: >> >>> Dear All, >>> >>> I have an sorted array A of size 3.4M of positive integers and an array B >>> of size 300,000 of positive integers. I would like to output for each x in B >>> the value in A that is closest to it. This is easy to do for a single >>> element, but I need an efficient implementation for the entire of B. Any >>> suggestions? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Oren > > > > -- > A person is just about as big as the things that make him angry. > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -- sheila From livne at uchicago.edu Sat Jan 5 16:26:53 2013 From: livne at uchicago.edu (Oren Livne) Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2013 09:26:53 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Closest Index In-Reply-To: References: <50E7538D.6040509@uchicago.edu> <50E826E4.3010502@uchicago.edu> Message-ID: <50E8463D.7070907@uchicago.edu> Dear Shelia These are great questions. A is a set of positions of genetic markers on a chromosome. It is read from an input data file and is sorted. As such, A has no duplicate elements. A's values have variable density along the chromosome. It is not easy to characterize. Can be locally dense. A is used once. However, I have 22 different (A,B) pairs for 22 autosomal chromosomes. Oren On 1/5/2013 9:21 AM, sheila miguez wrote: > I have naive questions. > > How did A get constructed? If an example of integers in A is > 1,1,2,3,3,3 is it a list of that, or a counter 2,1,3 or something > else? What is the distribution of A? When you do the work do you have > to construct A every time or will it live around for a while? From brianhray at gmail.com Sat Jan 5 17:05:16 2013 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2013 10:05:16 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Closest Index In-Reply-To: <50E8463D.7070907@uchicago.edu> References: <50E7538D.6040509@uchicago.edu> <50E826E4.3010502@uchicago.edu> <50E8463D.7070907@uchicago.edu> Message-ID: Oren: Why don't we carve out some time in our next meeting (Thurs) and talk about possible approaches? Are you open to leading that discussion? On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Oren Livne wrote: > Dear Shelia > > These are great questions. > A is a set of positions of genetic markers on a chromosome. It is read > from an input data file and is sorted. > As such, A has no duplicate elements. > A's values have variable density along the chromosome. It is not easy to > characterize. Can be locally dense. > A is used once. However, I have 22 different (A,B) pairs for 22 autosomal > chromosomes. > > Oren > > > On 1/5/2013 9:21 AM, sheila miguez wrote: > >> I have naive questions. >> >> How did A get constructed? If an example of integers in A is >> 1,1,2,3,3,3 is it a list of that, or a counter 2,1,3 or something >> else? What is the distribution of A? When you do the work do you have >> to construct A every time or will it live around for a while? >> > > ______________________________**_________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- Brian Ray @brianray (773) 669-7717 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From randy7771026 at gmail.com Sat Jan 5 22:42:17 2013 From: randy7771026 at gmail.com (Randy Baxley) Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2013 15:42:17 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Installing Linux on a Raspberry Pi by Dr. Chuck Video Message-ID: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pX6nC_qEwgc&feature=em-uploademail -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From livne at uchicago.edu Sun Jan 6 14:32:02 2013 From: livne at uchicago.edu (Oren Livne) Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2013 07:32:02 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Closest Index In-Reply-To: References: <50E7538D.6040509@uchicago.edu> <50E826E4.3010502@uchicago.edu> <50E8463D.7070907@uchicago.edu> Message-ID: <50E97CD2.4030503@uchicago.edu> Hi Brian, I would love to! Unfortunately I can never attend on Thursday nights due to another obligation. If I ever get the chance I'll let you know. In fact I think the discussion should be expanded more generally to python problems arising in genetic applications. Shelia: the data sets are public. The A-array is in each of the files of http://hapmap.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/downloads/recombination/2011-01_phaseII_B37/genetic_map_HapMapII_GRCh37.tar.gz The B-arrays are the subset of positions on the product http://www.affymetrix.com/browse/products.jsp?productId=131532&navMode=34000&navAction=jump&aId=productsNav#1_1 I don't know if they have a public download for their marker list. Or maybe the AWS data set has them - look for Affymetrix chip 5.0 or 6.0. Yes, there would be natural applications for map-reduce parallelization. Not this particular task, but other far-more extensive tasks. Would be great to discuss in the ChiPy meeting. This is truly a great mailing list. Oren On 1/5/2013 10:05 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > Oren: > > Why don't we carve out some time in our next meeting (Thurs) and talk > about possible approaches? Are you open to leading that discussion? > > > On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Oren Livne > wrote: > > Dear Shelia > > These are great questions. > A is a set of positions of genetic markers on a chromosome. It is > read from an input data file and is sorted. > As such, A has no duplicate elements. > A's values have variable density along the chromosome. It is not > easy to characterize. Can be locally dense. > A is used once. However, I have 22 different (A,B) pairs for 22 > autosomal chromosomes. > > Oren > > > On 1/5/2013 9:21 AM, sheila miguez wrote: > > I have naive questions. > > How did A get constructed? If an example of integers in A is > 1,1,2,3,3,3 is it a list of that, or a counter 2,1,3 or something > else? What is the distribution of A? When you do the work do > you have > to construct A every time or will it live around for a while? > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -- A person is just about as big as the things that make him angry. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skip at pobox.com Sun Jan 6 21:24:06 2013 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2013 14:24:06 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Good Django hosting? Message-ID: Can someone recommend a good Django-friendly hosting service? Shell access not required. 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URL: From rlbax777 at swbell.net Sun Jan 6 23:15:38 2013 From: rlbax777 at swbell.net (Randall Baxley) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2013 14:15:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Chicago] Closest Index In-Reply-To: <50E97CD2.4030503@uchicago.edu> Message-ID: <1357510538.15987.YahooMailClassic@web185002.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> The group also likes to do Sprints. ?I originally left biology for computer science back when I had hopes that one could model the lymphatic system using computers. Perhaps this could be a nice Sprint. --- On Sun, 1/6/13, Oren Livne wrote: From: Oren Livne Subject: Re: [Chicago] Closest Index To: "The Chicago Python Users Group" Date: Sunday, January 6, 2013, 7:32 AM Hi Brian, I would love to! Unfortunately I can never attend on Thursday nights due to another obligation. If I ever get the chance I'll let you know. In fact I think the discussion should be expanded more generally to python problems arising in genetic applications. Shelia: the data sets are public. The A-array is in each of the files of http://hapmap.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/downloads/recombination/2011-01_phaseII_B37/genetic_map_HapMapII_GRCh37.tar.gz The B-arrays are the subset of positions on the product http://www.affymetrix.com/browse/products.jsp?productId=131532&navMode=34000&navAction=jump&aId=productsNav#1_1 I don't know if they have a public download for their marker list. Or maybe the AWS data set has them - look for Affymetrix chip 5.0 or 6.0. Yes, there would be natural applications for map-reduce parallelization. Not this particular task, but other far-more extensive tasks. Would be great to discuss in the ChiPy meeting. This is truly a great mailing list. Oren On 1/5/2013 10:05 AM, Brian Ray wrote: Oren: Why don't we carve out some time in our next meeting (Thurs) and talk about possible approaches? Are you open to leading that discussion? On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Oren Livne wrote: Dear Shelia These are great questions. A is a set of positions of genetic markers on a chromosome. It is read from an input data file and is sorted. As such, A has no duplicate elements. A's values have variable density along the chromosome. It is not easy to characterize. Can be locally dense. A is used once. However, I have 22 different (A,B) pairs for 22 autosomal chromosomes. Oren On 1/5/2013 9:21 AM, sheila miguez wrote: I have naive questions. How did A get constructed? If an example of integers in A is 1,1,2,3,3,3 is it a list of that, or a counter 2,1,3 or something else? What is the distribution of A? When you do the work do you have to construct A every time or will it live around for a while? _______________________________________________ Chicago mailing list Chicago at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -- Brian Ray? @brianray (773) 669-7717 _______________________________________________ Chicago mailing list Chicago at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -- A person is just about as big as the things that make him angry. -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Chicago mailing list Chicago at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skip at pobox.com Sun Jan 6 23:31:46 2013 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2013 16:31:46 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Good Django hosting? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Alex Gaynor wrote: > Heroku is probably just about the easiest thing http://heroku.com/ Thanks good people. I'll check it out. Skip From sean.michael.farley at gmail.com Sun Jan 6 23:33:52 2013 From: sean.michael.farley at gmail.com (Sean Farley) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2013 16:33:52 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Closest Index In-Reply-To: <50E97CD2.4030503@uchicago.edu> References: <50E7538D.6040509@uchicago.edu> <50E826E4.3010502@uchicago.edu> <50E8463D.7070907@uchicago.edu> <50E97CD2.4030503@uchicago.edu> Message-ID: On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 7:32 AM, Oren Livne wrote: > Hi Brian, > > I would love to! Unfortunately I can never attend on Thursday nights due to > another obligation. If I ever get the chance I'll let you know. In fact I > think the discussion should be expanded more generally to python problems > arising in genetic applications. > > Shelia: the data sets are public. The A-array is in each of the files of > http://hapmap.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/downloads/recombination/2011-01_phaseII_B37/genetic_map_HapMapII_GRCh37.tar.gz > > The B-arrays are the subset of positions on the product > http://www.affymetrix.com/browse/products.jsp?productId=131532&navMode=34000&navAction=jump&aId=productsNav#1_1 > I don't know if they have a public download for their marker list. Or maybe > the AWS data set has them - look for Affymetrix chip 5.0 or 6.0. > > Yes, there would be natural applications for map-reduce parallelization. Not > this particular task, but other far-more extensive tasks. Would be great to > discuss in the ChiPy meeting. This is truly a great mailing list. Hmm, since you are already in the large-data-set regime you might want to look into the trie structure [1]. It has a better performance in big-O terms but a larger coefficient. Since you're data is in the millions (billions?) then this might be worth it, especially since this is genome data (which I'm guessing is a hash table-type structure). [1] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trie From shekay at pobox.com Mon Jan 7 17:55:12 2013 From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 10:55:12 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Closest Index In-Reply-To: <50E97CD2.4030503@uchicago.edu> References: <50E7538D.6040509@uchicago.edu> <50E826E4.3010502@uchicago.edu> <50E8463D.7070907@uchicago.edu> <50E97CD2.4030503@uchicago.edu> Message-ID: Would you be interested in a sprint or workshop? There is another thread I started asking whether people would be interested in a pandas/pydata/etc sprint. I know a couple of the people who ran one in NYC recently. We could apply for a sprint or PSF O&E grant to cover lunch and perhaps travel for someone to lead a sprint (the NYC group had a pandas contributor there). Perhaps you aren't interested in contributing to a library but instead would like guidance on using them in general. Maybe in that case chipy folk could adapt material targeted towards scientific programmers for a workshop. The software-carpentry.org group provides their material under a permissive license. From an naive perspective, perhaps it doesn't make sense to have a general workshop vs. tailored. e.g. for computational biologists? anyway, I think it would be fun in general for chipy to have some hands-on events in addition to the talking format. On Jan 6, 2013 7:54 AM, "Oren Livne" wrote: > > Hi Brian, > > I would love to! Unfortunately I can never attend on Thursday nights due to another obligation. If I ever get the chance I'll let you know. In fact I think the discussion should be expanded more generally to python problems arising in genetic applications. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Maybe in that case chipy folk > could adapt material targeted towards scientific programmers for a > workshop. The software-carpentry.org group provides their material under > a permissive license. From an naive perspective, perhaps it doesn't make > sense to have a general workshop vs. tailored. e.g. for computational > biologists? > > anyway, I think it would be fun in general for chipy to have some hands-on > events in addition to the talking format. > > On Jan 6, 2013 7:54 AM, "Oren Livne" wrote: > > > > Hi Brian, > > > > I would love to! Unfortunately I can never attend on Thursday nights due > to another obligation. If I ever get the chance I'll let you know. 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On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Randy Baxley wrote: > > Is it wrong when I can understand scientific programming to be playing with > this Pong game? > > Is it even more wrong that having gotten to step nine of twelve that I am > just sitting here digesting my lunch and watching the ball float around > instead of doing steps 10 - 12 and commenting my code? > > http://www.codeskulptor.org/#user8-paYp6vO6lS-4.py > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- Carl K From lance at roytalman.com Mon Jan 7 19:30:07 2013 From: lance at roytalman.com (Lance Hassan) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 12:30:07 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Fun with Pong In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1AAF941D1C57C14BBAAAA4F112A95BF8022DA1F832@DFW1MBX22.mex07a.mlsrvr.com> Not necessarily, degenerate maybe, right and wrong in this case would be ambiguous. From: Chicago [mailto:chicago-bounces+lance=roytalman.com at python.org] On Behalf Of Randy Baxley Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 12:05 PM To: The Chicago Python Users Group Subject: [Chicago] Fun with Pong Is it wrong when I can understand scientific programming to be playing with this Pong game? Is it even more wrong that having gotten to step nine of twelve that I am just sitting here digesting my lunch and watching the ball float around instead of doing steps 10 - 12 and commenting my code? http://www.codeskulptor.org/#user8-paYp6vO6lS-4.py -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tal.liron at threecrickets.com Mon Jan 7 19:52:15 2013 From: tal.liron at threecrickets.com (Tal Liron) Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2013 12:52:15 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Happy 2013 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <50EB195F.50800@threecrickets.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shekay at pobox.com Mon Jan 7 20:02:15 2013 From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 13:02:15 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Happy 2013 In-Reply-To: <50EB195F.50800@threecrickets.com> References: <50EB195F.50800@threecrickets.com> Message-ID: There has been back channel talk with Carl. I'll ping him to make him ack. On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Tal Liron wrote: > Hey guys, no word from Carl, as far as I can tell. We have the A/V > equipment, but would someone be able to record it? We can see about editing > later. > > I think the talk would be very useful as a recording -- there's almost no > info out there about Genie, and it would be a friendly contribution from > ChiPy to the world. Think of the children. > > -Tal > > > On 01/02/2013 04:56 PM, Robert Sulzer wrote: > > My buddy works there and says that they have AV equipment and a camera as > well. > > On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Daniel Peters > wrote: >> >> fwiw, if I remember correctly, they've got some level of AV going on. I >> know they have a projector. They do a weekly video thing with beer on >> friday, so they might have a camera too? > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- sheila From randy7771026 at gmail.com Mon Jan 7 21:19:23 2013 From: randy7771026 at gmail.com (Randy Baxley) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 14:19:23 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Fun with Pong In-Reply-To: <1AAF941D1C57C14BBAAAA4F112A95BF8022DA1F832@DFW1MBX22.mex07a.mlsrvr.com> References: <1AAF941D1C57C14BBAAAA4F112A95BF8022DA1F832@DFW1MBX22.mex07a.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: Thank you, Lance, I shoot for derelict but will accept degenerate. On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Lance Hassan wrote: > Not necessarily, degenerate maybe, right and wrong in this case would be > ambiguous.**** > > ** ** > > *From:* Chicago [mailto:chicago-bounces+lance=roytalman.com at python.org] *On > Behalf Of *Randy Baxley > *Sent:* Monday, January 07, 2013 12:05 PM > *To:* The Chicago Python Users Group > *Subject:* [Chicago] Fun with Pong**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > Is it wrong when I can understand scientific programming to be playing > with this Pong game?**** > > ** ** > > Is it even more wrong that having gotten to step nine of twelve that I am > just sitting here digesting my lunch and watching the ball float around > instead of doing steps 10 - 12 and commenting my code?**** > > ** ** > > http://www.codeskulptor.org/#user8-paYp6vO6lS-4.py**** > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Is > that expected ? > > On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Randy Baxley > wrote: > > > > Is it wrong when I can understand scientific programming to be playing > with > > this Pong game? > > > > Is it even more wrong that having gotten to step nine of twelve that I am > > just sitting here digesting my lunch and watching the ball float around > > instead of doing steps 10 - 12 and commenting my code? > > > > http://www.codeskulptor.org/#user8-paYp6vO6lS-4.py > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > > -- > Carl K > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carl at personnelware.com Tue Jan 8 03:52:33 2013 From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 20:52:33 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Happy 2013 In-Reply-To: <50EB195F.50800@threecrickets.com> References: <50EB195F.50800@threecrickets.com> Message-ID: I'll be able to video. Can you submit your talk description into: http://beta.flourishconf.com That is the code base pycon uses, trying to use it for a local conference. I'll use the chipy meeting as a smoke test. On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Tal Liron wrote: > Hey guys, no word from Carl, as far as I can tell. We have the A/V > equipment, but would someone be able to record it? We can see about editing > later. > > I think the talk would be very useful as a recording -- there's almost no > info out there about Genie, and it would be a friendly contribution from > ChiPy to the world. Think of the children. > > -Tal > > > On 01/02/2013 04:56 PM, Robert Sulzer wrote: > > My buddy works there and says that they have AV equipment and a camera as > well. > > On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Daniel Peters > wrote: >> >> fwiw, if I remember correctly, they've got some level of AV going on. I >> know they have a projector. They do a weekly video thing with beer on >> friday, so they might have a camera too? > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- Carl K From jongman at gmail.com Tue Jan 8 06:03:50 2013 From: jongman at gmail.com (JongMan Koo) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 23:03:50 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Closest Index In-Reply-To: <50E826E4.3010502@uchicago.edu> References: <50E7538D.6040509@uchicago.edu> <50E826E4.3010502@uchicago.edu> Message-ID: I guess I'm probably late to the party -- but since your dataset is relatively modest in size, you can afford to be a little more slow for the benefit of shorter code. The following function will basically do it: import numpy as np def closest_index(a, b): idx2 = np.minimum(len(a) - 1, np.searchsorted(a, b)) idx1 = np.maximum(0, idx2 - 1) np.putmask(idx1, np.abs(a[idx1] - b) > np.abs(a[idx2] - b), idx2) return idx1 For some explanation.. when you call np.searchsorted(a, b[i]), it will return an index x where following holds: a[x-1] < b[i] <= a[x]. So after you get that x, there are only two candidates for b[i]: x-1 or x. The rest is just vectorizing that using numpy's array manipulation functions, and some bound checking. The time complexity for this would be O(m*lgn) which is slightly inferior to O(n+m+mlgm) but numpy functions are in C and they are blazing fast. Here's a little more verbose version complete with tests: https://gist.github.com/4481357 2013/1/5 Oren Livne > Thanks so much to all of you! I can sort B and sweep through both arrays > once, as suggest. > Oren > > > On 1/4/2013 5:20 PM, Rajesh Sankaran wrote: > >> What about sorting B ( cost - O(nlog(n)))? Once sorted, as you advance >> in B array, your A pointer will only move forward. >> You will go through each of the two arrays only once (cost O(m+n)). >> >> -- >> Raj >> >> On Fri, 04 Jan 2013 16:11:25 -0600, Oren Livne >> wrote: >> >> Dear All, >>> >>> I have an sorted array A of size 3.4M of positive integers and an array >>> B of size 300,000 of positive integers. I would like to output for each x >>> in B the value in A that is closest to it. This is easy to do for a single >>> element, but I need an efficient implementation for the entire of B. Any >>> suggestions? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Oren >>> >> > > -- > A person is just about as big as the things that make him angry. > > ______________________________**_________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tal.liron at threecrickets.com Tue Jan 8 09:55:03 2013 From: tal.liron at threecrickets.com (Tal Liron) Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 02:55:03 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] More Genie Message-ID: <50EBDEE7.3070101@threecrickets.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brianhray at gmail.com Tue Jan 8 15:13:04 2013 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 08:13:04 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Thursday and talk proposal Message-ID: RSVP is open http://chipy.org I gave Tal a big spot 50minutes. However I also would like to give a short talk 20min on Marmir if it would interest some of you: Marmir (https://github.com/brianray/mm) takes Python data structures and > turns them into spreadsheets (think xlwt on steroids). This is a high level > Intro to the project, current status, goals, and to solicit any > contributions. This talk will look into how Marmir internals do things > like: measure fonts to fit columns, preserve data types (dates, numbers), > allow advanced look and feel customization of spreadsheets (colors > alignment number formats). Later down the road, I would like to have a > separate talk on Marmir internals and how it may be customized to do things > like, convert Django model data directly to spreadsheets, integrate with > google spreadsheets. Any +1's? I am also open to holding off on my talk if someone else has something short they wish to talk about. 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This talk will look into how Marmir internals do things like: >> measure fonts to fit columns, preserve data types (dates, numbers), allow >> advanced look and feel customization of spreadsheets (colors alignment >> number formats). Later down the road, I would like to have a separate talk >> on Marmir internals and how it may be customized to do things like, convert >> Django model data directly to spreadsheets, integrate with google >> spreadsheets. > > > Any +1's? > > I am also open to holding off on my talk if someone else has something short > they wish to talk about. > > Cheers, Brian > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > From brianhray at gmail.com Tue Jan 8 16:54:40 2013 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 09:54:40 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] we have fans... 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Later down the road, I would like to have a >> separate talk on Marmir internals and how it may be customized to do things >> like, convert Django model data directly to spreadsheets, integrate with >> google spreadsheets. > > > Any +1's? > > I am also open to holding off on my talk if someone else has something > short they wish to talk about. > > Cheers, Brian > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This talk will look into how Marmir internals do things >>> like: measure fonts to fit columns, preserve data types (dates, numbers), >>> allow advanced look and feel customization of spreadsheets (colors >>> alignment number formats). Later down the road, I would like to have a >>> separate talk on Marmir internals and how it may be customized to do things >>> like, convert Django model data directly to spreadsheets, integrate with >>> google spreadsheets. >> >> >> Any +1's? >> >> I am also open to holding off on my talk if someone else has something >> short they wish to talk about. >> >> Cheers, Brian >> >> -- >> Brian Ray >> @brianray >> (773) 669-7717 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carl at personnelware.com Tue Jan 8 21:14:59 2013 From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 14:14:59 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Talk submission UI help Message-ID: I want this weeks ChiPy presenters to enter their talk data into http://beta.flourishconf.com but it isn't obvious how. Will someone figure out how to enter a talk, and give feedback on how to make it clear? This is the codebase that PyCon uses for https://us.pycon.org/2013/ Which now that I look at it I don't see a clear path either. -- Carl K From brianhray at gmail.com Tue Jan 8 21:17:29 2013 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 14:17:29 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Talk submission UI help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I do not mind entering the talks; however, I do mind it if it is a big hassle. Are you saying it is not clear on how to enter talks? On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: > I want this weeks ChiPy presenters to enter their talk data into > http://beta.flourishconf.com but it isn't obvious how. > Will someone figure out how to enter a talk, and give feedback on how > to make it clear? > > This is the codebase that PyCon uses for > https://us.pycon.org/2013/ > > Which now that I look at it I don't see a clear path either. > > -- > Carl K > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- Brian Ray @brianray (773) 669-7717 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It's not clear at all...so we'll probably have to add some links in the front page or contact. -Aisha On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: > I want this weeks ChiPy presenters to enter their talk data into > http://beta.flourishconf.com but it isn't obvious how. > Will someone figure out how to enter a talk, and give feedback on how > to make it clear? > > This is the codebase that PyCon uses for > https://us.pycon.org/2013/ > > Which now that I look at it I don't see a clear path either. > > -- > Carl K > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aishahalim at gmail.com Tue Jan 8 21:20:05 2013 From: aishahalim at gmail.com (Aisha Halim) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 14:20:05 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Talk submission UI help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Woops, thought this was the flourish list -- we, as in with that flourish beta, will. -Aisha On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Aisha Halim wrote: > If you sign up for an account, login, click Dashboard on top right hand > corner, a view for submitting talk proposal or speaker proposal will appear. > > It's not clear at all...so we'll probably have to add some links in the > front page or contact. > > > -Aisha > > > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: > >> I want this weeks ChiPy presenters to enter their talk data into >> http://beta.flourishconf.com but it isn't obvious how. >> Will someone figure out how to enter a talk, and give feedback on how >> to make it clear? >> >> This is the codebase that PyCon uses for >> https://us.pycon.org/2013/ >> >> Which now that I look at it I don't see a clear path either. >> >> -- >> Carl K >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From emperorcezar at gmail.com Tue Jan 8 21:22:51 2013 From: emperorcezar at gmail.com (Adam "Cezar" Jenkins) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 14:22:51 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Talk submission UI help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yea, this is for flourish and just to help them out. The new Chipy site talk submission is really simple. chipy.herokuapp.com Note that I still don't have it connecting different types of accounts yet. If you use your google, then your github you'll have two seperate accounts. On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > I do not mind entering the talks; however, I do mind it if it is a big > hassle. Are you saying it is not clear on how to enter talks? > > > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: >> >> I want this weeks ChiPy presenters to enter their talk data into >> http://beta.flourishconf.com but it isn't obvious how. >> Will someone figure out how to enter a talk, and give feedback on how >> to make it clear? >> >> This is the codebase that PyCon uses for >> https://us.pycon.org/2013/ >> >> Which now that I look at it I don't see a clear path either. >> >> -- >> Carl K >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > From brianhray at gmail.com Tue Jan 8 21:35:54 2013 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 14:35:54 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Talk submission UI help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Carl: I will do my best to add the talks to the Flourish test install. Adam: Good work. Can we port all existing accounts over, as well? On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins wrote: > Yea, this is for flourish and just to help them out. The new Chipy > site talk submission is really simple. chipy.herokuapp.com > > Note that I still don't have it connecting different types of accounts > yet. If you use your google, then your github you'll have two seperate > accounts. > > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > > I do not mind entering the talks; however, I do mind it if it is a big > > hassle. Are you saying it is not clear on how to enter talks? > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Carl Karsten > wrote: > >> > >> I want this weeks ChiPy presenters to enter their talk data into > >> http://beta.flourishconf.com but it isn't obvious how. > >> Will someone figure out how to enter a talk, and give feedback on how > >> to make it clear? > >> > >> This is the codebase that PyCon uses for > >> https://us.pycon.org/2013/ > >> > >> Which now that I look at it I don't see a clear path either. > >> > >> -- > >> Carl K > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Chicago mailing list > >> Chicago at python.org > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Brian Ray > > @brianray > > (773) 669-7717 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- Brian Ray @brianray (773) 669-7717 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From emperorcezar at gmail.com Tue Jan 8 21:47:48 2013 From: emperorcezar at gmail.com (Adam "Cezar" Jenkins) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 14:47:48 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Site accounts Message-ID: You'll notice it's doesn't have usernames and passwords, just OpenID accounts (with nice buttons to click). I assume almost everyone has a google, github, bitbucket, stack overflow, yahoo, etc account. I have Google, Github, and generic OpenID already turned on and can easily add others. I did this, because honestly, it's likely to sit around with very little maintainace for a long time and I didn't want to take the security burden of storing passwords for a site that's not going to be watched over that much. Especially when the only things we need an account for are talk submissions and rsvps As much as I wish they didn't, people use the same passwords for other sites and I don't want to find out that we got compromised and peoples passwords got out there because we forgot to update Django or something else. That said. If there is a big outcry we can turn on password based accounts and registration. I have been known to be wrong. I will port old meeting information over, the models are very similar, and I'll just have to write some minor glue code. On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > Carl: > > I will do my best to add the talks to the Flourish test install. > > > Adam: > > Good work. Can we port all existing accounts over, as well? > > > > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins > wrote: >> >> Yea, this is for flourish and just to help them out. The new Chipy >> site talk submission is really simple. chipy.herokuapp.com >> >> Note that I still don't have it connecting different types of accounts >> yet. If you use your google, then your github you'll have two seperate >> accounts. >> >> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Brian Ray wrote: >> > I do not mind entering the talks; however, I do mind it if it is a big >> > hassle. Are you saying it is not clear on how to enter talks? >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Carl Karsten >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> I want this weeks ChiPy presenters to enter their talk data into >> >> http://beta.flourishconf.com but it isn't obvious how. >> >> Will someone figure out how to enter a talk, and give feedback on how >> >> to make it clear? >> >> >> >> This is the codebase that PyCon uses for >> >> https://us.pycon.org/2013/ >> >> >> >> Which now that I look at it I don't see a clear path either. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Carl K >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Chicago mailing list >> >> Chicago at python.org >> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Brian Ray >> > @brianray >> > (773) 669-7717 >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Chicago mailing list >> > Chicago at python.org >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > From brianhray at gmail.com Tue Jan 8 22:10:12 2013 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 15:10:12 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Site accounts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I like the openID, as long as it returns the correct full name as it is required for RSVP for security at front desk reasons. I also have used emails to do things like invite to social networking sites and poke speakers who decide to disappear. On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins wrote: > You'll notice it's doesn't have usernames and passwords, just OpenID > accounts (with nice buttons to click). I assume almost everyone has a > google, github, bitbucket, stack overflow, yahoo, etc account. I have > Google, Github, and generic OpenID already turned on and can easily > add others. > > I did this, because honestly, it's likely to sit around with very > little maintainace for a long time and I didn't want to take the > security burden of storing passwords for a site that's not going to be > watched over that much. Especially when the only things we need an > account for are talk submissions and rsvps > > As much as I wish they didn't, people use the same passwords for other > sites and I don't want to find out that we got compromised and peoples > passwords got out there because we forgot to update Django or > something else. > > That said. If there is a big outcry we can turn on password based > accounts and registration. I have been known to be wrong. > > I will port old meeting information over, the models are very similar, > and I'll just have to write some minor glue code. > > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > > Carl: > > > > I will do my best to add the talks to the Flourish test install. > > > > > > Adam: > > > > Good work. Can we port all existing accounts over, as well? > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins > > wrote: > >> > >> Yea, this is for flourish and just to help them out. The new Chipy > >> site talk submission is really simple. chipy.herokuapp.com > >> > >> Note that I still don't have it connecting different types of accounts > >> yet. If you use your google, then your github you'll have two seperate > >> accounts. > >> > >> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > >> > I do not mind entering the talks; however, I do mind it if it is a big > >> > hassle. Are you saying it is not clear on how to enter talks? > >> > > >> > > >> > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Carl Karsten > >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> I want this weeks ChiPy presenters to enter their talk data into > >> >> http://beta.flourishconf.com but it isn't obvious how. > >> >> Will someone figure out how to enter a talk, and give feedback on how > >> >> to make it clear? > >> >> > >> >> This is the codebase that PyCon uses for > >> >> https://us.pycon.org/2013/ > >> >> > >> >> Which now that I look at it I don't see a clear path either. > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Carl K > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> Chicago mailing list > >> >> Chicago at python.org > >> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Brian Ray > >> > @brianray > >> > (773) 669-7717 > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Chicago mailing list > >> > Chicago at python.org > >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Chicago mailing list > >> Chicago at python.org > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Brian Ray > > @brianray > > (773) 669-7717 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- Brian Ray @brianray (773) 669-7717 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From emperorcezar at gmail.com Tue Jan 8 22:14:45 2013 From: emperorcezar at gmail.com (Adam "Cezar" Jenkins) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 15:14:45 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Site accounts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: See, I had this problem. My real name is Adam, but I go by Cezar almost exclusively, even in Google. It confuses security. You'll notice, if after you login and click you name -> account. You can set your display name. http://cl.ly/image/1T142d3o3Y37 OpenID pulls in the users emails. http://cl.ly/image/1D1q231r0J26 On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > I like the openID, as long as it returns the correct full name as it is > required for RSVP for security at front desk reasons. I also have used > emails to do things like invite to social networking sites and poke speakers > who decide to disappear. > > > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins > wrote: >> >> You'll notice it's doesn't have usernames and passwords, just OpenID >> accounts (with nice buttons to click). I assume almost everyone has a >> google, github, bitbucket, stack overflow, yahoo, etc account. I have >> Google, Github, and generic OpenID already turned on and can easily >> add others. >> >> I did this, because honestly, it's likely to sit around with very >> little maintainace for a long time and I didn't want to take the >> security burden of storing passwords for a site that's not going to be >> watched over that much. Especially when the only things we need an >> account for are talk submissions and rsvps >> >> As much as I wish they didn't, people use the same passwords for other >> sites and I don't want to find out that we got compromised and peoples >> passwords got out there because we forgot to update Django or >> something else. >> >> That said. If there is a big outcry we can turn on password based >> accounts and registration. I have been known to be wrong. >> >> I will port old meeting information over, the models are very similar, >> and I'll just have to write some minor glue code. >> >> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Brian Ray wrote: >> > Carl: >> > >> > I will do my best to add the talks to the Flourish test install. >> > >> > >> > Adam: >> > >> > Good work. Can we port all existing accounts over, as well? >> > >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Yea, this is for flourish and just to help them out. The new Chipy >> >> site talk submission is really simple. chipy.herokuapp.com >> >> >> >> Note that I still don't have it connecting different types of accounts >> >> yet. If you use your google, then your github you'll have two seperate >> >> accounts. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Brian Ray wrote: >> >> > I do not mind entering the talks; however, I do mind it if it is a >> >> > big >> >> > hassle. Are you saying it is not clear on how to enter talks? >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Carl Karsten >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> I want this weeks ChiPy presenters to enter their talk data into >> >> >> http://beta.flourishconf.com but it isn't obvious how. >> >> >> Will someone figure out how to enter a talk, and give feedback on >> >> >> how >> >> >> to make it clear? >> >> >> >> >> >> This is the codebase that PyCon uses for >> >> >> https://us.pycon.org/2013/ >> >> >> >> >> >> Which now that I look at it I don't see a clear path either. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> Carl K >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Chicago mailing list >> >> >> Chicago at python.org >> >> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Brian Ray >> >> > @brianray >> >> > (773) 669-7717 >> >> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > Chicago mailing list >> >> > Chicago at python.org >> >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Chicago mailing list >> >> Chicago at python.org >> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Brian Ray >> > @brianray >> > (773) 669-7717 >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Chicago mailing list >> > Chicago at python.org >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > From brianhray at gmail.com Tue Jan 8 22:24:48 2013 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 15:24:48 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Site accounts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Display Name sounds like a handle. On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins wrote: > See, I had this problem. My real name is Adam, but I go by Cezar > almost exclusively, even in Google. It confuses security. You'll > notice, if after you login and click you name -> account. You can set > your display name. > > http://cl.ly/image/1T142d3o3Y37 > > OpenID pulls in the users emails. http://cl.ly/image/1D1q231r0J26 > > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > > I like the openID, as long as it returns the correct full name as it is > > required for RSVP for security at front desk reasons. I also have used > > emails to do things like invite to social networking sites and poke > speakers > > who decide to disappear. > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins > > wrote: > >> > >> You'll notice it's doesn't have usernames and passwords, just OpenID > >> accounts (with nice buttons to click). I assume almost everyone has a > >> google, github, bitbucket, stack overflow, yahoo, etc account. I have > >> Google, Github, and generic OpenID already turned on and can easily > >> add others. > >> > >> I did this, because honestly, it's likely to sit around with very > >> little maintainace for a long time and I didn't want to take the > >> security burden of storing passwords for a site that's not going to be > >> watched over that much. Especially when the only things we need an > >> account for are talk submissions and rsvps > >> > >> As much as I wish they didn't, people use the same passwords for other > >> sites and I don't want to find out that we got compromised and peoples > >> passwords got out there because we forgot to update Django or > >> something else. > >> > >> That said. If there is a big outcry we can turn on password based > >> accounts and registration. I have been known to be wrong. > >> > >> I will port old meeting information over, the models are very similar, > >> and I'll just have to write some minor glue code. > >> > >> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > >> > Carl: > >> > > >> > I will do my best to add the talks to the Flourish test install. > >> > > >> > > >> > Adam: > >> > > >> > Good work. Can we port all existing accounts over, as well? > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins > >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Yea, this is for flourish and just to help them out. The new Chipy > >> >> site talk submission is really simple. chipy.herokuapp.com > >> >> > >> >> Note that I still don't have it connecting different types of > accounts > >> >> yet. If you use your google, then your github you'll have two > seperate > >> >> accounts. > >> >> > >> >> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Brian Ray > wrote: > >> >> > I do not mind entering the talks; however, I do mind it if it is a > >> >> > big > >> >> > hassle. Are you saying it is not clear on how to enter talks? > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Carl Karsten < > carl at personnelware.com> > >> >> > wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> I want this weeks ChiPy presenters to enter their talk data into > >> >> >> http://beta.flourishconf.com but it isn't obvious how. > >> >> >> Will someone figure out how to enter a talk, and give feedback on > >> >> >> how > >> >> >> to make it clear? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> This is the codebase that PyCon uses for > >> >> >> https://us.pycon.org/2013/ > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Which now that I look at it I don't see a clear path either. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> -- > >> >> >> Carl K > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> >> Chicago mailing list > >> >> >> Chicago at python.org > >> >> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > -- > >> >> > Brian Ray > >> >> > @brianray > >> >> > (773) 669-7717 > >> >> > > >> >> > _______________________________________________ > >> >> > Chicago mailing list > >> >> > Chicago at python.org > >> >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >> >> > > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> Chicago mailing list > >> >> Chicago at python.org > >> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Brian Ray > >> > @brianray > >> > (773) 669-7717 > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Chicago mailing list > >> > Chicago at python.org > >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Chicago mailing list > >> Chicago at python.org > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Brian Ray > > @brianray > > (773) 669-7717 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- Brian Ray @brianray (773) 669-7717 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From emperorcezar at gmail.com Tue Jan 8 22:26:19 2013 From: emperorcezar at gmail.com (Adam "Cezar" Jenkins) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 15:26:19 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Site accounts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Good point. I can change the wording and add some help text. On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > Display Name sounds like a handle. > > > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins > wrote: >> >> See, I had this problem. My real name is Adam, but I go by Cezar >> almost exclusively, even in Google. It confuses security. You'll >> notice, if after you login and click you name -> account. You can set >> your display name. >> >> http://cl.ly/image/1T142d3o3Y37 >> >> OpenID pulls in the users emails. http://cl.ly/image/1D1q231r0J26 >> >> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Brian Ray wrote: >> > I like the openID, as long as it returns the correct full name as it is >> > required for RSVP for security at front desk reasons. I also have used >> > emails to do things like invite to social networking sites and poke >> > speakers >> > who decide to disappear. >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> You'll notice it's doesn't have usernames and passwords, just OpenID >> >> accounts (with nice buttons to click). I assume almost everyone has a >> >> google, github, bitbucket, stack overflow, yahoo, etc account. I have >> >> Google, Github, and generic OpenID already turned on and can easily >> >> add others. >> >> >> >> I did this, because honestly, it's likely to sit around with very >> >> little maintainace for a long time and I didn't want to take the >> >> security burden of storing passwords for a site that's not going to be >> >> watched over that much. Especially when the only things we need an >> >> account for are talk submissions and rsvps >> >> >> >> As much as I wish they didn't, people use the same passwords for other >> >> sites and I don't want to find out that we got compromised and peoples >> >> passwords got out there because we forgot to update Django or >> >> something else. >> >> >> >> That said. If there is a big outcry we can turn on password based >> >> accounts and registration. I have been known to be wrong. >> >> >> >> I will port old meeting information over, the models are very similar, >> >> and I'll just have to write some minor glue code. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Brian Ray wrote: >> >> > Carl: >> >> > >> >> > I will do my best to add the talks to the Flourish test install. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Adam: >> >> > >> >> > Good work. Can we port all existing accounts over, as well? >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Yea, this is for flourish and just to help them out. The new Chipy >> >> >> site talk submission is really simple. chipy.herokuapp.com >> >> >> >> >> >> Note that I still don't have it connecting different types of >> >> >> accounts >> >> >> yet. If you use your google, then your github you'll have two >> >> >> seperate >> >> >> accounts. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Brian Ray >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> > I do not mind entering the talks; however, I do mind it if it is a >> >> >> > big >> >> >> > hassle. Are you saying it is not clear on how to enter talks? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Carl Karsten >> >> >> > >> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I want this weeks ChiPy presenters to enter their talk data into >> >> >> >> http://beta.flourishconf.com but it isn't obvious how. >> >> >> >> Will someone figure out how to enter a talk, and give feedback on >> >> >> >> how >> >> >> >> to make it clear? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> This is the codebase that PyCon uses for >> >> >> >> https://us.pycon.org/2013/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Which now that I look at it I don't see a clear path either. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> Carl K >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> >> Chicago mailing list >> >> >> >> Chicago at python.org >> >> >> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> > Brian Ray >> >> >> > @brianray >> >> >> > (773) 669-7717 >> >> >> > >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> >> > Chicago mailing list >> >> >> > Chicago at python.org >> >> >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Chicago mailing list >> >> >> Chicago at python.org >> >> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Brian Ray >> >> > @brianray >> >> > (773) 669-7717 >> >> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > Chicago mailing list >> >> > Chicago at python.org >> >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Chicago mailing list >> >> Chicago at python.org >> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Brian Ray >> > @brianray >> > (773) 669-7717 >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Chicago mailing list >> > Chicago at python.org >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > From jordanb at hafd.org Tue Jan 8 22:21:27 2013 From: jordanb at hafd.org (Jordan Bettis) Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 15:21:27 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Site accounts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <50EC8DD7.9030501@hafd.org> On 01/08/2013 02:47 PM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins wrote: > As much as I wish they didn't, people use the same passwords for other > sites and I don't want to find out that we got compromised and peoples > passwords got out there because we forgot to update Django or > something else. Isn't it kinda nannyish to assume that a bunch of python programmers are going to have bad password hygiene and therefore shouldn't be allowed to create their own password for the site if they want to? PS: We shouldn't need an account to RSVP From brian at python.org Tue Jan 8 22:32:06 2013 From: brian at python.org (Brian Curtin) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 15:32:06 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Site accounts In-Reply-To: <50EC8DD7.9030501@hafd.org> References: <50EC8DD7.9030501@hafd.org> Message-ID: On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Jordan Bettis wrote: > On 01/08/2013 02:47 PM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins wrote: >> As much as I wish they didn't, people use the same passwords for other >> sites and I don't want to find out that we got compromised and peoples >> passwords got out there because we forgot to update Django or >> something else. > > Isn't it kinda nannyish to assume that a bunch of python programmers are > going to have bad password hygiene and therefore shouldn't be allowed to > create their own password for the site if they want to? No. - speaking as someone involved with the current wiki.python.org issues since it was recently compromised due to vulnerabilities. From emperorcezar at gmail.com Tue Jan 8 22:37:00 2013 From: emperorcezar at gmail.com (Adam "Cezar" Jenkins) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 15:37:00 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Site accounts In-Reply-To: <50EC8DD7.9030501@hafd.org> References: <50EC8DD7.9030501@hafd.org> Message-ID: On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Jordan Bettis wrote: > On 01/08/2013 02:47 PM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins wrote: >> As much as I wish they didn't, people use the same passwords for other >> sites and I don't want to find out that we got compromised and peoples >> passwords got out there because we forgot to update Django or >> something else. > > Isn't it kinda nannyish to assume that a bunch of python programmers are > going to have bad password hygiene and therefore shouldn't be allowed to > create their own password for the site if they want to? Not assuming a bunch, assuming a few. Whether we like it or not, some people don't have good password hygene. Statistically it's going to be the case. If the site were something that was someone's paying job to look over, or did something complex that would be fine. As it is, I'd rather Google's security team deal with the latest threats than laying that on the shoulder of some chipy person. > > PS: We shouldn't need an account to RSVP This is on the to-do list. It's difficult because you want to allow someone to reverse their RSVP also. Doing so without an account is something that will take some UX consideration. Which I would love feedback on. > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago From randy7771026 at gmail.com Tue Jan 8 23:47:52 2013 From: randy7771026 at gmail.com (Randy Baxley) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 16:47:52 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Marmir, Pong, Thursday Message-ID: At Office Hours last week there was a man who wanted to go web based with some excel type things. I have been playing with PONG some more but also going back into HTML some with a Udacity course. http://www.codeskulptor.org/#user8-paYp6vO6lS-14.py Looking forward to the best ChiPy meeting ever tomorrow night. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brianhray at gmail.com Tue Jan 8 23:54:34 2013 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 16:54:34 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] [ANN] January ChiPy Meeting Message-ID: When: Thursday January 10th 2013 7 p.m. Where: Nerdery 300 N Elizabeth St, Suite 500C, Chicago, IL 60607, in the building with the large "Chicago Bancorp" marquee on the top. Getting There: Via the el, Nerdery, are pretty much right in the middle between the Morgan and Ashland stops on the Pink/Green line. The closest bus lines are the 65 (Grand) and the 9 (Ashland). Driving is fairly easy as well, though there is really only street parking available, though at 7PM, there should be enough spots along the street. Google maps would give the best directions for driving. Meeting Ranking: Best EVER! RSVP: http://chipy.org Topics: 1) Genie By: Tal Liron Tal will talk on Python inspired Genie. He will use his Gamelauncher example http://code.google.com/p/gamelauncher/ as an example. He will detail some reasons to use Genie: 1) If Python isn't fast enough for your needs, you can optimize bottlenecks by "dropping" to Genie and then elegantly call that code from Python. Avoid paradigm switching. 2) Need to run Python on your embedded toaster? Genie compiles to standard ANSI C and is as portable as anything. 3) If you're writing a Python library, but want to allow it to be used from many other languages (Ruby, JS, C++, etc.) then Genie might be better. 4) If you're not actually using much of the Python standard libraries or ecosystem, there are many advantages in writing your application from scratch in Genie. This is actually what I'm working on right now. 2) Intro to Marmir: Spreadsheets on steroids By: Brian Ray Marmir (https://github.com/brianray/mm) takes Python data structures and turns them into spreadsheets (think xlwt on steroids). This is a high level Intro to the project, current status, goals, and to solicit any contributions. This talk will look into how Marmir internals do things like: measure fonts to fit columns, preserve data types (dates, numbers), allow advanced look and feel customization of spreadsheets. Later down the road, I would like to have a separate talk on Marmir internals and how it may be customized to do things like, convert Django model data directly to spreadsheets, integrate with google spreadsheets. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Randy Baxley wrote: > >> Looking forward to the best ChiPy meeting ever tomorrow night. > > > Me too... however, meeting is Thursday, day after tomorrow. > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carl at personnelware.com Wed Jan 9 01:42:37 2013 From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 18:42:37 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Talk submission UI help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Brian, Figure out how to enter a talk, Enter yours. Post feedback on how to make it more clear. Tal, try to follow Brain's feedback On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > Carl: > > I will do my best to add the talks to the Flourish test install. > > > Adam: > > Good work. Can we port all existing accounts over, as well? > > > > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins > wrote: >> >> Yea, this is for flourish and just to help them out. The new Chipy >> site talk submission is really simple. chipy.herokuapp.com >> >> Note that I still don't have it connecting different types of accounts >> yet. If you use your google, then your github you'll have two seperate >> accounts. >> >> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Brian Ray wrote: >> > I do not mind entering the talks; however, I do mind it if it is a big >> > hassle. Are you saying it is not clear on how to enter talks? >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Carl Karsten >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> I want this weeks ChiPy presenters to enter their talk data into >> >> http://beta.flourishconf.com but it isn't obvious how. >> >> Will someone figure out how to enter a talk, and give feedback on how >> >> to make it clear? >> >> >> >> This is the codebase that PyCon uses for >> >> https://us.pycon.org/2013/ >> >> >> >> Which now that I look at it I don't see a clear path either. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Carl K >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Chicago mailing list >> >> Chicago at python.org >> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Brian Ray >> > @brianray >> > (773) 669-7717 >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Chicago mailing list >> > Chicago at python.org >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- Carl K From tal.liron at threecrickets.com Wed Jan 9 03:46:08 2013 From: tal.liron at threecrickets.com (Tal Liron) Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 20:46:08 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] [ANN] January ChiPy Meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <50ECD9F0.3080207@threecrickets.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skip at pobox.com Wed Jan 9 20:57:01 2013 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 13:57:01 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Marmir, Pong, Thursday In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Good thing I have a calender and a wife. And not necessarily in that order. Skip who is liking what he's seen so far of Django and Heroku... From livne at uchicago.edu Wed Jan 9 22:27:09 2013 From: livne at uchicago.edu (Oren Livne) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2013 15:27:09 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Closest Index In-Reply-To: References: <50E7538D.6040509@uchicago.edu> <50E826E4.3010502@uchicago.edu> <50E8463D.7070907@uchicago.edu> <50E97CD2.4030503@uchicago.edu> Message-ID: <50EDE0AD.5080700@uchicago.edu> Dear Shelia and All, Yes, I would be interested. I could cover problems arising in statistical genetics, the algorithms I currently have, and seek input from the audience on how to improve them. Thanks Oren On 01/07/2013 10:55 AM, sheila miguez wrote: > > Would you be interested in a sprint or workshop? > > There is another thread I started asking whether people would be > interested in a pandas/pydata/etc sprint. I know a couple of the > people who ran one in NYC recently. > > We could apply for a sprint or PSF O&E grant to cover lunch and > perhaps travel for someone to lead a sprint (the NYC group had a > pandas contributor there). > > Perhaps you aren't interested in contributing to a library but instead > would like guidance on using them in general. Maybe in that case chipy > folk could adapt material targeted towards scientific programmers for > a workshop. The software-carpentry.org > group provides their material under a permissive license. From an > naive perspective, perhaps it doesn't make sense to have a general > workshop vs. tailored. e.g. for computational biologists? > > anyway, I think it would be fun in general for chipy to have some > hands-on events in addition to the talking format. > > On Jan 6, 2013 7:54 AM, "Oren Livne" > wrote: > > > > Hi Brian, > > > > I would love to! Unfortunately I can never attend on Thursday nights > due to another obligation. If I ever get the chance I'll let you know. > In fact I think the discussion should be expanded more generally to > python problems arising in genetic applications. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins wrote: > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Jordan Bettis wrote: > > On 01/08/2013 02:47 PM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins wrote: > >> As much as I wish they didn't, people use the same passwords for other > >> sites and I don't want to find out that we got compromised and peoples > >> passwords got out there because we forgot to update Django or > >> something else. > > > > Isn't it kinda nannyish to assume that a bunch of python programmers are > > going to have bad password hygiene and therefore shouldn't be allowed to > > create their own password for the site if they want to? > > Not assuming a bunch, assuming a few. Whether we like it or not, some > people don't have good password hygene. Statistically it's going to be > the case. If the site were something that was someone's paying job to > look over, or did something complex that would be fine. > > As it is, I'd rather Google's security team deal with the latest > threats than laying that on the shoulder of some chipy person. > > > > > PS: We shouldn't need an account to RSVP > > This is on the to-do list. It's difficult because you want to allow > someone to reverse their RSVP also. Doing so without an account is > something that will take some UX consideration. Which I would love > feedback on. > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- @tsaylor http://www.timsaylor.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From emperorcezar at gmail.com Thu Jan 10 01:54:19 2013 From: emperorcezar at gmail.com (Adam "Cezar" Jenkins) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 18:54:19 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Site accounts In-Reply-To: References: <50EC8DD7.9030501@hafd.org> Message-ID: That's a good idea. I was rolling that around in my head and I think it might work. On Jan 9, 2013 5:41 PM, "Tim Saylor" wrote: > You could do it the craigslist posting way and send them an email with a > link to modify their rsvp. > > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins < > emperorcezar at gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Jordan Bettis wrote: >> > On 01/08/2013 02:47 PM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins wrote: >> >> As much as I wish they didn't, people use the same passwords for other >> >> sites and I don't want to find out that we got compromised and peoples >> >> passwords got out there because we forgot to update Django or >> >> something else. >> > >> > Isn't it kinda nannyish to assume that a bunch of python programmers are >> > going to have bad password hygiene and therefore shouldn't be allowed to >> > create their own password for the site if they want to? >> >> Not assuming a bunch, assuming a few. Whether we like it or not, some >> people don't have good password hygene. Statistically it's going to be >> the case. If the site were something that was someone's paying job to >> look over, or did something complex that would be fine. >> >> As it is, I'd rather Google's security team deal with the latest >> threats than laying that on the shoulder of some chipy person. >> >> > >> > PS: We shouldn't need an account to RSVP >> >> This is on the to-do list. It's difficult because you want to allow >> someone to reverse their RSVP also. Doing so without an account is >> something that will take some UX consideration. Which I would love >> feedback on. >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Chicago mailing list >> > Chicago at python.org >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > > > -- > @tsaylor > http://www.timsaylor.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From emperorcezar at gmail.com Thu Jan 10 15:27:54 2013 From: emperorcezar at gmail.com (Adam "Cezar" Jenkins) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 08:27:54 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] The Nerdery is awesome In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: In my experience their kegerator must keep flowing else it will foam. So we need a constant stream of people drinking. Who can help me with this endevour? On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:24 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > They will be providing pizza and beverage service tonight as well as > providing tonight's venue. > > Wow, Nerds are cool! > > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > From brian at python.org Thu Jan 10 15:52:31 2013 From: brian at python.org (Brian Curtin) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 08:52:31 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] =?windows-1252?q?Python_Tools_for_Visual_Studio=85_2012?= =?windows-1252?q?_Express=3F?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:35 PM, Chad Glendenin wrote: > I hope this isn't a stupid question, but I've spent some time googling it > already, and I'm not finding a good answer. Do the Python Tools for Visual > Studio (PTVS) work with Visual Studio 2012 Express? > > I already installed Visual Studio 2012 "Express for Web" in a Windows 7 VM > to play around with VS's TypeScript support. Then I wanted to try PTVS (with > IronPython), but the installer says something like "Visual Studio 2012 is > required" and refuses to install. > > I thought I already had VS 2012. :-/ Does PTVS require a *non-Express* > version of VS 2012? > > I found some docs about installing PTVS in VS 2010 "integrated shell," > whatever the heck that is, but I've already spent a bunch of time installing > VS 2012, so I'm nervous about mucking around with it too much and breaking > what's already working. > > I appreciate any pointers or advice. Express does not support plugins, extensions, or whatever they call things like PTVS these days. You should be able to just install the integrated shell alongside your current setup and then try PTVS again. I did something like this a few years back with an IDE project that came before PTVS that *required* the integrated shell and couldn't work inside the full VS. From carl at personnelware.com Thu Jan 10 15:55:26 2013 From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 08:55:26 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] video talk data Message-ID: What magic do I need to preform to get someone to figure out how to enter talk data so that I can produce the videos? -- Carl K From emperorcezar at gmail.com Thu Jan 10 15:57:22 2013 From: emperorcezar at gmail.com (Adam "Cezar" Jenkins) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 08:57:22 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] video talk data In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Enter it where? On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Carl Karsten wrote: > What magic do I need to preform to get someone to figure out how to > enter talk data so that I can produce the videos? > > -- > Carl K > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago From brianhray at gmail.com Thu Jan 10 16:01:50 2013 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 09:01:50 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] video talk data In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: He wants us to enter it here http://beta.flourishconf.com/ I have submitted my talk, we may need some additional instructions, Carl. On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins < emperorcezar at gmail.com> wrote: > Enter it where? > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Carl Karsten > wrote: > > What magic do I need to preform to get someone to figure out how to > > enter talk data so that I can produce the videos? > > > > -- > > Carl K > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- Brian Ray @brianray (773) 669-7717 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carl at personnelware.com Thu Jan 10 16:45:42 2013 From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 09:45:42 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] video talk data In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I know we need some additional instructions., I asked for them. Given you figured it out, please provide said docs so Tal can take care his talk. On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > He wants us to enter it here http://beta.flourishconf.com/ > > I have submitted my talk, we may need some additional instructions, Carl. > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins > wrote: >> >> Enter it where? >> >> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Carl Karsten >> wrote: >> > What magic do I need to preform to get someone to figure out how to >> > enter talk data so that I can produce the videos? >> > >> > -- >> > Carl K >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Chicago mailing list >> > Chicago at python.org >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- Carl K From emperorcezar at gmail.com Thu Jan 10 17:01:10 2013 From: emperorcezar at gmail.com (Adam "Cezar" Jenkins) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 10:01:10 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Site accounts In-Reply-To: <50EC8DD7.9030501@hafd.org> References: <50EC8DD7.9030501@hafd.org> Message-ID: Just a note that this isn't that uncomon of a practice http://2013.djangocon.eu/vote/ On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Jordan Bettis wrote: > On 01/08/2013 02:47 PM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins wrote: >> As much as I wish they didn't, people use the same passwords for other >> sites and I don't want to find out that we got compromised and peoples >> passwords got out there because we forgot to update Django or >> something else. > > Isn't it kinda nannyish to assume that a bunch of python programmers are > going to have bad password hygiene and therefore shouldn't be allowed to > create their own password for the site if they want to? > > PS: We shouldn't need an account to RSVP > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago From carl at personnelware.com Thu Jan 10 19:17:47 2013 From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:17:47 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] video talk data In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: For those that submit a talk, which so far is just me and Brian, How much of a hassle was it? Answer in terms of how much effort should be put into changing it, and realize that forking the code adds hassle on my end. Personally, I think it is just fine. On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > He wants us to enter it here http://beta.flourishconf.com/ > > I have submitted my talk, we may need some additional instructions, Carl. > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins > wrote: >> >> Enter it where? >> >> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Carl Karsten >> wrote: >> > What magic do I need to preform to get someone to figure out how to >> > enter talk data so that I can produce the videos? >> > >> > -- >> > Carl K >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Chicago mailing list >> > Chicago at python.org >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- Carl K From brianhray at gmail.com Thu Jan 10 19:21:16 2013 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:21:16 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] video talk data In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <68A8DBDB-902F-47B8-9DA8-7443A70857FD@gmail.com> It was easy enough. On Jan 10, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: > For those that submit a talk, which so far is just me and Brian, > > How much of a hassle was it? > > Answer in terms of how much effort should be put into changing it, and > realize that forking the code adds hassle on my end. Personally, I > think it is just fine. > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >> He wants us to enter it here http://beta.flourishconf.com/ >> >> I have submitted my talk, we may need some additional instructions, Carl. >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins >> wrote: >>> >>> Enter it where? >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Carl Karsten >>> wrote: >>>> What magic do I need to preform to get someone to figure out how to >>>> enter talk data so that I can produce the videos? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Carl K >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chicago mailing list >>>> Chicago at python.org >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Brian Ray >> @brianray >> (773) 669-7717 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > -- > Carl K > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago From carl at personnelware.com Thu Jan 10 20:10:34 2013 From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:10:34 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] video talk data In-Reply-To: <68A8DBDB-902F-47B8-9DA8-7443A70857FD@gmail.com> References: <68A8DBDB-902F-47B8-9DA8-7443A70857FD@gmail.com> Message-ID: good. I still want docs or something to help those that can't figure it out and someone other than you to enter Tals talk. It is wearying that people aren't willing to lend a helping hand. I am having trouble understanding why. I am pretty sure that it will be harder for me to find a parking spot, eh? On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > It was easy enough. > > On Jan 10, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: > >> For those that submit a talk, which so far is just me and Brian, >> >> How much of a hassle was it? >> >> Answer in terms of how much effort should be put into changing it, and >> realize that forking the code adds hassle on my end. Personally, I >> think it is just fine. >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >>> He wants us to enter it here http://beta.flourishconf.com/ >>> >>> I have submitted my talk, we may need some additional instructions, Carl. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Enter it where? >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Carl Karsten >>>> wrote: >>>>> What magic do I need to preform to get someone to figure out how to >>>>> enter talk data so that I can produce the videos? >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Carl K >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Chicago mailing list >>>>> Chicago at python.org >>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chicago mailing list >>>> Chicago at python.org >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Brian Ray >>> @brianray >>> (773) 669-7717 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> >> >> -- >> Carl K >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -- Carl K From jordanb at hafd.org Thu Jan 10 20:39:22 2013 From: jordanb at hafd.org (Jordan Bettis) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:39:22 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Site accounts In-Reply-To: References: <50EC8DD7.9030501@hafd.org> Message-ID: <50EF18EA.2070705@hafd.org> Yeah if the Europeans do it, that's proof that it's not nannyish. :P On 01/10/2013 10:01 AM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins wrote: > Just a note that this isn't that uncomon of a practice > http://2013.djangocon.eu/vote/ > > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Jordan Bettis wrote: >> On 01/08/2013 02:47 PM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins wrote: >>> As much as I wish they didn't, people use the same passwords for other >>> sites and I don't want to find out that we got compromised and peoples >>> passwords got out there because we forgot to update Django or >>> something else. >> >> Isn't it kinda nannyish to assume that a bunch of python programmers are >> going to have bad password hygiene and therefore shouldn't be allowed to >> create their own password for the site if they want to? >> >> PS: We shouldn't need an account to RSVP >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago From brianhray at gmail.com Thu Jan 10 20:51:35 2013 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:51:35 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] video talk data In-Reply-To: References: <68A8DBDB-902F-47B8-9DA8-7443A70857FD@gmail.com> Message-ID: Well, as with any effort to get people to cooperate, one must be patient and also clearly define the goals. I am not sure any of us are clear exactly what you are trying to accomplish or why. Perhaps, at the meeting tonight, get up and explain what you want. I am sure more than a couple people will be willing to help you. On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: > good. > > I still want docs or something to help those that can't figure it out > and someone other than you to enter Tals talk. > > It is wearying that people aren't willing to lend a helping hand. > I am having trouble understanding why. > > I am pretty sure that it will be harder for me to find a parking spot, eh? > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > > It was easy enough. > > > > On Jan 10, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Carl Karsten > wrote: > > > >> For those that submit a talk, which so far is just me and Brian, > >> > >> How much of a hassle was it? > >> > >> Answer in terms of how much effort should be put into changing it, and > >> realize that forking the code adds hassle on my end. Personally, I > >> think it is just fine. > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > >>> He wants us to enter it here http://beta.flourishconf.com/ > >>> > >>> I have submitted my talk, we may need some additional instructions, > Carl. > >>> > >>> > >>> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Enter it where? > >>>> > >>>> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Carl Karsten > > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> What magic do I need to preform to get someone to figure out how to > >>>>> enter talk data so that I can produce the videos? > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Carl K > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Chicago mailing list > >>>>> Chicago at python.org > >>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Chicago mailing list > >>>> Chicago at python.org > >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Brian Ray > >>> @brianray > >>> (773) 669-7717 > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Chicago mailing list > >>> Chicago at python.org > >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Carl K > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Chicago mailing list > >> Chicago at python.org > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > -- > Carl K > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- Brian Ray @brianray (773) 669-7717 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From heflin.rosst at gmail.com Thu Jan 10 20:54:54 2013 From: heflin.rosst at gmail.com (Ross Heflin) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:54:54 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] The Nerdery is awesome In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm in depending on the contents. On Jan 10, 2013 8:36 AM, "Adam "Cezar" Jenkins" wrote: > In my experience their kegerator must keep flowing else it will foam. > So we need a constant stream of people drinking. Who can help me with > this endevour? > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:24 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > > They will be providing pizza and beverage service tonight as well as > > providing tonight's venue. > > > > Wow, Nerds are cool! > > > > > > -- > > Brian Ray > > @brianray > > (773) 669-7717 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From randy7771026 at gmail.com Thu Jan 10 20:59:57 2013 From: randy7771026 at gmail.com (Randy Baxley) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:59:57 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] video talk data In-Reply-To: References: <68A8DBDB-902F-47B8-9DA8-7443A70857FD@gmail.com> Message-ID: So you want just any of us to try entering Tal's talk info as if it were our own? Should I have gotten an email to confirm my email from the beta? On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: > good. > > I still want docs or something to help those that can't figure it out > and someone other than you to enter Tals talk. > > It is wearying that people aren't willing to lend a helping hand. > I am having trouble understanding why. > > I am pretty sure that it will be harder for me to find a parking spot, eh? > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > > It was easy enough. > > > > On Jan 10, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Carl Karsten > wrote: > > > >> For those that submit a talk, which so far is just me and Brian, > >> > >> How much of a hassle was it? > >> > >> Answer in terms of how much effort should be put into changing it, and > >> realize that forking the code adds hassle on my end. Personally, I > >> think it is just fine. > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > >>> He wants us to enter it here http://beta.flourishconf.com/ > >>> > >>> I have submitted my talk, we may need some additional instructions, > Carl. > >>> > >>> > >>> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Enter it where? > >>>> > >>>> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Carl Karsten > > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> What magic do I need to preform to get someone to figure out how to > >>>>> enter talk data so that I can produce the videos? > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Carl K > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Chicago mailing list > >>>>> Chicago at python.org > >>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Chicago mailing list > >>>> Chicago at python.org > >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Brian Ray > >>> @brianray > >>> (773) 669-7717 > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Chicago mailing list > >>> Chicago at python.org > >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Carl K > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Chicago mailing list > >> Chicago at python.org > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > -- > Carl K > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carl at personnelware.com Thu Jan 10 21:04:28 2013 From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:04:28 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] video talk data In-Reply-To: References: <68A8DBDB-902F-47B8-9DA8-7443A70857FD@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Randy Baxley wrote: > So you want just any of us to try entering Tal's talk info as if it were our > own? Yes. > Should I have gotten an email to confirm my email from the beta? > Yes, but seems that isn't working, so no. > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Carl Karsten > wrote: >> >> good. >> >> I still want docs or something to help those that can't figure it out >> and someone other than you to enter Tals talk. >> >> It is wearying that people aren't willing to lend a helping hand. >> I am having trouble understanding why. >> >> I am pretty sure that it will be harder for me to find a parking spot, eh? >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Brian Ray wrote: >> > It was easy enough. >> > >> > On Jan 10, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Carl Karsten >> > wrote: >> > >> >> For those that submit a talk, which so far is just me and Brian, >> >> >> >> How much of a hassle was it? >> >> >> >> Answer in terms of how much effort should be put into changing it, and >> >> realize that forking the code adds hassle on my end. Personally, I >> >> think it is just fine. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >> >>> He wants us to enter it here http://beta.flourishconf.com/ >> >>> >> >>> I have submitted my talk, we may need some additional instructions, >> >>> Carl. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins >> >>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> Enter it where? >> >>>> >> >>>> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Carl Karsten >> >>>> >> >>>> wrote: >> >>>>> What magic do I need to preform to get someone to figure out how to >> >>>>> enter talk data so that I can produce the videos? >> >>>>> >> >>>>> -- >> >>>>> Carl K >> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>> Chicago mailing list >> >>>>> Chicago at python.org >> >>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> Chicago mailing list >> >>>> Chicago at python.org >> >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Brian Ray >> >>> @brianray >> >>> (773) 669-7717 >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Chicago mailing list >> >>> Chicago at python.org >> >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Carl K >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Chicago mailing list >> >> Chicago at python.org >> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Chicago mailing list >> > Chicago at python.org >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> >> >> -- >> Carl K >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- Carl K From tal.liron at threecrickets.com Thu Jan 10 21:23:12 2013 From: tal.liron at threecrickets.com (Tal Liron) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:23:12 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] video talk data In-Reply-To: References: <68A8DBDB-902F-47B8-9DA8-7443A70857FD@gmail.com> Message-ID: <50EF2330.1030509@threecrickets.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carl at personnelware.com Thu Jan 10 21:29:44 2013 From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:29:44 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] video talk data In-Reply-To: References: <68A8DBDB-902F-47B8-9DA8-7443A70857FD@gmail.com> Message-ID: I have been on this for over a year. guessing 2 or 3 now. that's pretty patient. goal: help me produce videos. looks like right now Brian is the only one interested enough to figure out how to help, but only a little. I asked for some docs, I see no docs. If you or anyone is interested and don't understand what I am asking for, ask. I see the lack of interest as very few people caring about videos, and that sucks the motivation out of me to do it. I guarantee what I am asking for is way less work/trouble/hassle/money than doing the videos. Pretty sure it is way less than someone else coming in and making a crappy video too. On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > Well, as with any effort to get people to cooperate, one must be patient and > also clearly define the goals. I am not sure any of us are clear exactly > what you are trying to accomplish or why. Perhaps, at the meeting tonight, > get up and explain what you want. I am sure more than a couple people will > be willing to help you. > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Carl Karsten > wrote: >> >> good. >> >> I still want docs or something to help those that can't figure it out >> and someone other than you to enter Tals talk. >> >> It is wearying that people aren't willing to lend a helping hand. >> I am having trouble understanding why. >> >> I am pretty sure that it will be harder for me to find a parking spot, eh? >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Brian Ray wrote: >> > It was easy enough. >> > >> > On Jan 10, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Carl Karsten >> > wrote: >> > >> >> For those that submit a talk, which so far is just me and Brian, >> >> >> >> How much of a hassle was it? >> >> >> >> Answer in terms of how much effort should be put into changing it, and >> >> realize that forking the code adds hassle on my end. Personally, I >> >> think it is just fine. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >> >>> He wants us to enter it here http://beta.flourishconf.com/ >> >>> >> >>> I have submitted my talk, we may need some additional instructions, >> >>> Carl. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins >> >>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> Enter it where? >> >>>> >> >>>> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Carl Karsten >> >>>> >> >>>> wrote: >> >>>>> What magic do I need to preform to get someone to figure out how to >> >>>>> enter talk data so that I can produce the videos? >> >>>>> >> >>>>> -- >> >>>>> Carl K >> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>> Chicago mailing list >> >>>>> Chicago at python.org >> >>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> Chicago mailing list >> >>>> Chicago at python.org >> >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Brian Ray >> >>> @brianray >> >>> (773) 669-7717 >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Chicago mailing list >> >>> Chicago at python.org >> >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Carl K >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Chicago mailing list >> >> Chicago at python.org >> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Chicago mailing list >> > Chicago at python.org >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> >> >> -- >> Carl K >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- Carl K From carl at personnelware.com Thu Jan 10 21:30:54 2013 From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:30:54 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] video talk data In-Reply-To: <50EF2330.1030509@threecrickets.com> References: <68A8DBDB-902F-47B8-9DA8-7443A70857FD@gmail.com> <50EF2330.1030509@threecrickets.com> Message-ID: Didn't you ask for your talk to be recorded? On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Tal Liron wrote: > I am so confused. > > I'll arrive and give a talk. Maybe it will describe itself. > > > > On 01/10/2013 02:04 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Randy Baxley > wrote: > > So you want just any of us to try entering Tal's talk info as if it were our > own? > > Yes. > > > Should I have gotten an email to confirm my email from the beta? > > Yes, but seems that isn't working, so no. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- Carl K From tal.liron at threecrickets.com Thu Jan 10 21:34:20 2013 From: tal.liron at threecrickets.com (Tal Liron) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:34:20 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] video talk data In-Reply-To: References: <68A8DBDB-902F-47B8-9DA8-7443A70857FD@gmail.com> Message-ID: <50EF25CC.1020605@threecrickets.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brianhray at gmail.com Thu Jan 10 21:41:16 2013 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:41:16 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] video talk data In-Reply-To: <50EF25CC.1020605@threecrickets.com> References: <68A8DBDB-902F-47B8-9DA8-7443A70857FD@gmail.com> <50EF25CC.1020605@threecrickets.com> Message-ID: haha, love it. Carl and Tal, here are my notes: 1. go to http://beta.flourishconf.com/ 2. create an account 3. create a speaker profile 4. propose a talk http://beta.flourishconf.com/proposals/submit/ 5. choose talk or go here http://beta.flourishconf.com/proposals/submit/talk/ 6. enter details 7. Hit Save 8. drink beer 9. give carl a hug On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Tal Liron wrote: > I declare today, Jan 10, to be International Carl Karsten Appreciation > Day. I think you've provided an incredibly important service to the Python > and free software community at large by helping spread information and > strengthen community ties. > > My confusion was specific: I didn't find out where to enter my talk > description, nor am I clear how it is related to recording the talk, but > I'm willing to relinquish the latter and just do the former. Anyway, you > are now saying that the site doesn't work, so am now confused as to whether > this is still necessary. > > > On 01/10/2013 02:29 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: > > I have been on this for over a year. guessing 2 or 3 now. that's > pretty patient. > > goal: help me produce videos. > > looks like right now Brian is the only one interested enough to figure > out how to help, but only a little. I asked for some docs, I see no > docs. If you or anyone is interested and don't understand what I am > asking for, ask. > > I see the lack of interest as very few people caring about videos, and > that sucks the motivation out of me to do it. I guarantee what I am > asking for is way less work/trouble/hassle/money than doing the > videos. Pretty sure it is way less than someone else coming in and > making a crappy video too. > > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > > Well, as with any effort to get people to cooperate, one must be patient and > also clearly define the goals. I am not sure any of us are clear exactly > what you are trying to accomplish or why. Perhaps, at the meeting tonight, > get up and explain what you want. I am sure more than a couple people will > be willing to help you. > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Carl Karsten > wrote: > > good. > > I still want docs or something to help those that can't figure it out > and someone other than you to enter Tals talk. > > It is wearying that people aren't willing to lend a helping hand. > I am having trouble understanding why. > > I am pretty sure that it will be harder for me to find a parking spot, eh? > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > > It was easy enough. > > On Jan 10, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Carl Karsten > wrote: > > > For those that submit a talk, which so far is just me and Brian, > > How much of a hassle was it? > > Answer in terms of how much effort should be put into changing it, and > realize that forking the code adds hassle on my end. Personally, I > think it is just fine. > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > > He wants us to enter it here http://beta.flourishconf.com/ > > I have submitted my talk, we may need some additional instructions, > Carl. > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins wrote: > > Enter it where? > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Carl Karsten > wrote: > > What magic do I need to preform to get someone to figure out how to > enter talk data so that I can produce the videos? > > -- > Carl K > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing listChicago at python.orghttp://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing listChicago at python.orghttp://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray(773) 669-7717 > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing listChicago at python.orghttp://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > -- > Carl K > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing listChicago at python.orghttp://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing listChicago at python.orghttp://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > -- > Carl K > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing listChicago at python.orghttp://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray(773) 669-7717 > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing listChicago at python.orghttp://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -- Brian Ray @brianray (773) 669-7717 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From randy7771026 at gmail.com Thu Jan 10 21:41:12 2013 From: randy7771026 at gmail.com (Randy Baxley) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:41:12 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] video talk data In-Reply-To: References: <68A8DBDB-902F-47B8-9DA8-7443A70857FD@gmail.com> <50EF2330.1030509@threecrickets.com> Message-ID: Your ProposalsTitleSession typeStatusActionsTal's 2nd talk on Genie talkSubmitted** Edit ** Manage Additional Speakers On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: > Didn't you ask for your talk to be recorded? > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Tal Liron > wrote: > > I am so confused. > > > > I'll arrive and give a talk. Maybe it will describe itself. > > > > > > > > On 01/10/2013 02:04 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Randy Baxley > > wrote: > > > > So you want just any of us to try entering Tal's talk info as if it were > our > > own? > > > > Yes. > > > > > > Should I have gotten an email to confirm my email from the beta? > > > > Yes, but seems that isn't working, so no. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > > -- > Carl K > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From randy7771026 at gmail.com Thu Jan 10 21:45:35 2013 From: randy7771026 at gmail.com (Randy Baxley) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:45:35 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] video talk data In-Reply-To: References: <68A8DBDB-902F-47B8-9DA8-7443A70857FD@gmail.com> <50EF25CC.1020605@threecrickets.com> Message-ID: Will a handshake do? BTW, Pong is a lot more fun with two and I am almost through playing with it. http://www.codeskulptor.org/#user8-paYp6vO6lS-16.py On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > haha, love it. > > Carl and Tal, here are my notes: > > > 1. go to http://beta.flourishconf.com/ > 2. create an account > 3. create a speaker profile > 4. propose a talk http://beta.flourishconf.com/proposals/submit/ > 5. choose talk or go here > http://beta.flourishconf.com/proposals/submit/talk/ > 6. enter details > 7. Hit Save > 8. drink beer > 9. give carl a hug > > > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Tal Liron wrote: > >> I declare today, Jan 10, to be International Carl Karsten Appreciation >> Day. I think you've provided an incredibly important service to the Python >> and free software community at large by helping spread information and >> strengthen community ties. >> >> My confusion was specific: I didn't find out where to enter my talk >> description, nor am I clear how it is related to recording the talk, but >> I'm willing to relinquish the latter and just do the former. Anyway, you >> are now saying that the site doesn't work, so am now confused as to whether >> this is still necessary. >> >> >> On 01/10/2013 02:29 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: >> >> I have been on this for over a year. guessing 2 or 3 now. that's >> pretty patient. >> >> goal: help me produce videos. >> >> looks like right now Brian is the only one interested enough to figure >> out how to help, but only a little. I asked for some docs, I see no >> docs. If you or anyone is interested and don't understand what I am >> asking for, ask. >> >> I see the lack of interest as very few people caring about videos, and >> that sucks the motivation out of me to do it. I guarantee what I am >> asking for is way less work/trouble/hassle/money than doing the >> videos. Pretty sure it is way less than someone else coming in and >> making a crappy video too. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Brian Ray wrote: >> >> Well, as with any effort to get people to cooperate, one must be patient and >> also clearly define the goals. I am not sure any of us are clear exactly >> what you are trying to accomplish or why. Perhaps, at the meeting tonight, >> get up and explain what you want. I am sure more than a couple people will >> be willing to help you. >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Carl Karsten >> wrote: >> >> good. >> >> I still want docs or something to help those that can't figure it out >> and someone other than you to enter Tals talk. >> >> It is wearying that people aren't willing to lend a helping hand. >> I am having trouble understanding why. >> >> I am pretty sure that it will be harder for me to find a parking spot, eh? >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Brian Ray wrote: >> >> It was easy enough. >> >> On Jan 10, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Carl Karsten >> wrote: >> >> >> For those that submit a talk, which so far is just me and Brian, >> >> How much of a hassle was it? >> >> Answer in terms of how much effort should be put into changing it, and >> realize that forking the code adds hassle on my end. Personally, I >> think it is just fine. >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >> >> He wants us to enter it here http://beta.flourishconf.com/ >> >> I have submitted my talk, we may need some additional instructions, >> Carl. >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins wrote: >> >> Enter it where? >> >> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Carl Karsten >> wrote: >> >> What magic do I need to preform to get someone to figure out how to >> enter talk data so that I can produce the videos? >> >> -- >> Carl K >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing listChicago at python.orghttp://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing listChicago at python.orghttp://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> >> >> -- >> Brian Ray >> @brianray(773) 669-7717 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing listChicago at python.orghttp://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> >> -- >> Carl K >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing listChicago at python.orghttp://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing listChicago at python.orghttp://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> >> -- >> Carl K >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing listChicago at python.orghttp://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> >> >> -- >> Brian Ray >> @brianray(773) 669-7717 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing listChicago at python.orghttp://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > haha, love it. > > Carl and Tal, here are my notes: > > > 1. go to http://beta.flourishconf.com/ > 2. create an account > 3. create a speaker profile > 4. propose a talk http://beta.flourishconf.com/proposals/submit/ > 5. choose talk or go here > http://beta.flourishconf.com/proposals/submit/talk/ > 6. enter details > 7. Hit Save > 8. drink beer > 9. give carl a hug > > > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Tal Liron wrote: > >> I declare today, Jan 10, to be International Carl Karsten Appreciation >> Day. I think you've provided an incredibly important service to the Python >> and free software community at large by helping spread information and >> strengthen community ties. >> >> My confusion was specific: I didn't find out where to enter my talk >> description, nor am I clear how it is related to recording the talk, but >> I'm willing to relinquish the latter and just do the former. Anyway, you >> are now saying that the site doesn't work, so am now confused as to whether >> this is still necessary. >> >> >> On 01/10/2013 02:29 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: >> >> I have been on this for over a year. guessing 2 or 3 now. that's >> pretty patient. >> >> goal: help me produce videos. >> >> looks like right now Brian is the only one interested enough to figure >> out how to help, but only a little. I asked for some docs, I see no >> docs. If you or anyone is interested and don't understand what I am >> asking for, ask. >> >> I see the lack of interest as very few people caring about videos, and >> that sucks the motivation out of me to do it. I guarantee what I am >> asking for is way less work/trouble/hassle/money than doing the >> videos. Pretty sure it is way less than someone else coming in and >> making a crappy video too. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Brian Ray wrote: >> >> Well, as with any effort to get people to cooperate, one must be patient and >> also clearly define the goals. I am not sure any of us are clear exactly >> what you are trying to accomplish or why. Perhaps, at the meeting tonight, >> get up and explain what you want. I am sure more than a couple people will >> be willing to help you. >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Carl Karsten >> wrote: >> >> good. >> >> I still want docs or something to help those that can't figure it out >> and someone other than you to enter Tals talk. >> >> It is wearying that people aren't willing to lend a helping hand. >> I am having trouble understanding why. >> >> I am pretty sure that it will be harder for me to find a parking spot, eh? >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Brian Ray wrote: >> >> It was easy enough. >> >> On Jan 10, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Carl Karsten >> wrote: >> >> >> For those that submit a talk, which so far is just me and Brian, >> >> How much of a hassle was it? >> >> Answer in terms of how much effort should be put into changing it, and >> realize that forking the code adds hassle on my end. Personally, I >> think it is just fine. >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >> >> He wants us to enter it here http://beta.flourishconf.com/ >> >> I have submitted my talk, we may need some additional instructions, >> Carl. >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins wrote: >> >> Enter it where? >> >> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Carl Karsten >> wrote: >> >> What magic do I need to preform to get someone to figure out how to >> enter talk data so that I can produce the videos? >> >> -- >> Carl K >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing listChicago at python.orghttp://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing listChicago at python.orghttp://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> -- >> Brian Ray >> @brianray(773) 669-7717 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing listChicago at python.orghttp://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> -- >> Carl K >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing listChicago at python.orghttp://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing listChicago at python.orghttp://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> -- >> Carl K >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing listChicago at python.orghttp://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> -- >> Brian Ray >> @brianray(773) 669-7717 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing listChicago at python.orghttp://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -- JP Bader Principal Zavteq, Inc. @lordB8r | jp at zavteq.com 608.692.2468 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carl at personnelware.com Thu Jan 10 21:50:12 2013 From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:50:12 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] video talk data In-Reply-To: <50EF25CC.1020605@threecrickets.com> References: <68A8DBDB-902F-47B8-9DA8-7443A70857FD@gmail.com> <50EF25CC.1020605@threecrickets.com> Message-ID: More than one person has said the site is confusing. I have been working with various versions of it for around 5 years, so it is easy for me. I have no idea what is appropriate docs or UI or whatever. I am sure someone can help with this. I see someone else figured out how to enter data... title: "Tal's 2nd talk on Genie" I hope you want a better title. Use the Instructions Brian just posted. Let me know what you think.. I'll weed out any redundant entries. heroku is having a problem: "remaining connection slots are reserved for non-replication superuser connections" been happening on and off for a day. it seems to come and go. 0,0 clue why no one here has mentioned it. here is some official report: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13640871/heroku-psql-fatal-remaining-connection-slots-are-reserved-for-non-replication On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Tal Liron wrote: > I declare today, Jan 10, to be International Carl Karsten Appreciation Day. > I think you've provided an incredibly important service to the Python and > free software community at large by helping spread information and > strengthen community ties. > > My confusion was specific: I didn't find out where to enter my talk > description, nor am I clear how it is related to recording the talk, but I'm > willing to relinquish the latter and just do the former. Anyway, you are now > saying that the site doesn't work, so am now confused as to whether this is > still necessary. > > > On 01/10/2013 02:29 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: > > I have been on this for over a year. guessing 2 or 3 now. that's > pretty patient. > > goal: help me produce videos. > > looks like right now Brian is the only one interested enough to figure > out how to help, but only a little. I asked for some docs, I see no > docs. If you or anyone is interested and don't understand what I am > asking for, ask. > > I see the lack of interest as very few people caring about videos, and > that sucks the motivation out of me to do it. I guarantee what I am > asking for is way less work/trouble/hassle/money than doing the > videos. Pretty sure it is way less than someone else coming in and > making a crappy video too. > > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > > Well, as with any effort to get people to cooperate, one must be patient and > also clearly define the goals. I am not sure any of us are clear exactly > what you are trying to accomplish or why. Perhaps, at the meeting tonight, > get up and explain what you want. I am sure more than a couple people will > be willing to help you. > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Carl Karsten > wrote: > > good. > > I still want docs or something to help those that can't figure it out > and someone other than you to enter Tals talk. > > It is wearying that people aren't willing to lend a helping hand. > I am having trouble understanding why. > > I am pretty sure that it will be harder for me to find a parking spot, eh? > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > > It was easy enough. > > On Jan 10, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Carl Karsten > wrote: > > For those that submit a talk, which so far is just me and Brian, > > How much of a hassle was it? > > Answer in terms of how much effort should be put into changing it, and > realize that forking the code adds hassle on my end. Personally, I > think it is just fine. > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > > He wants us to enter it here http://beta.flourishconf.com/ > > I have submitted my talk, we may need some additional instructions, > Carl. > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins > wrote: > > Enter it where? > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Carl Karsten > > wrote: > > What magic do I need to preform to get someone to figure out how to > enter talk data so that I can produce the videos? > > -- > Carl K > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > -- > Carl K > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > -- > Carl K > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- Carl K From emperorcezar at gmail.com Thu Jan 10 21:52:18 2013 From: emperorcezar at gmail.com (Adam "Cezar" Jenkins) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:52:18 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] video talk data In-Reply-To: <50EF25CC.1020605@threecrickets.com> References: <68A8DBDB-902F-47B8-9DA8-7443A70857FD@gmail.com> <50EF25CC.1020605@threecrickets.com> Message-ID: I'm totally gonna hug Carl. On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Tal Liron wrote: > I declare today, Jan 10, to be International Carl Karsten Appreciation Day. > I think you've provided an incredibly important service to the Python and > free software community at large by helping spread information and > strengthen community ties. > > My confusion was specific: I didn't find out where to enter my talk > description, nor am I clear how it is related to recording the talk, but I'm > willing to relinquish the latter and just do the former. Anyway, you are now > saying that the site doesn't work, so am now confused as to whether this is > still necessary. > > > On 01/10/2013 02:29 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: > > I have been on this for over a year. guessing 2 or 3 now. that's > pretty patient. > > goal: help me produce videos. > > looks like right now Brian is the only one interested enough to figure > out how to help, but only a little. I asked for some docs, I see no > docs. If you or anyone is interested and don't understand what I am > asking for, ask. > > I see the lack of interest as very few people caring about videos, and > that sucks the motivation out of me to do it. I guarantee what I am > asking for is way less work/trouble/hassle/money than doing the > videos. Pretty sure it is way less than someone else coming in and > making a crappy video too. > > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > > Well, as with any effort to get people to cooperate, one must be patient and > also clearly define the goals. I am not sure any of us are clear exactly > what you are trying to accomplish or why. Perhaps, at the meeting tonight, > get up and explain what you want. I am sure more than a couple people will > be willing to help you. > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Carl Karsten > wrote: > > good. > > I still want docs or something to help those that can't figure it out > and someone other than you to enter Tals talk. > > It is wearying that people aren't willing to lend a helping hand. > I am having trouble understanding why. > > I am pretty sure that it will be harder for me to find a parking spot, eh? > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > > It was easy enough. > > On Jan 10, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Carl Karsten > wrote: > > For those that submit a talk, which so far is just me and Brian, > > How much of a hassle was it? > > Answer in terms of how much effort should be put into changing it, and > realize that forking the code adds hassle on my end. Personally, I > think it is just fine. > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > > He wants us to enter it here http://beta.flourishconf.com/ > > I have submitted my talk, we may need some additional instructions, > Carl. > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins > wrote: > > Enter it where? > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Carl Karsten > > wrote: > > What magic do I need to preform to get someone to figure out how to > enter talk data so that I can produce the videos? > > -- > Carl K > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > -- > Carl K > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > -- > Carl K > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > From aishahalim at gmail.com Thu Jan 10 21:57:08 2013 From: aishahalim at gmail.com (Aisha Halim) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:57:08 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] video talk data In-Reply-To: References: <68A8DBDB-902F-47B8-9DA8-7443A70857FD@gmail.com> <50EF25CC.1020605@threecrickets.com> Message-ID: I'll take a look for Heroku db errors. Thanks for the stack overflow post -- sorry none of us on the flourish end noticed this. -Aisha On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: > More than one person has said the site is confusing. I have been > working with various versions of it for around 5 years, so it is easy > for me. I have no idea what is appropriate docs or UI or whatever. I > am sure someone can help with this. > > I see someone else figured out how to enter data... > > title: "Tal's 2nd talk on Genie" > > I hope you want a better title. > > Use the Instructions Brian just posted. > > Let me know what you think.. > > I'll weed out any redundant entries. > > > heroku is having a problem: "remaining connection slots are reserved > for non-replication superuser connections" been happening on and > off for a day. it seems to come and go. 0,0 clue why no one here has > mentioned it. > here is some official report: > > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13640871/heroku-psql-fatal-remaining-connection-slots-are-reserved-for-non-replication > > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Tal Liron > wrote: > > I declare today, Jan 10, to be International Carl Karsten Appreciation > Day. > > I think you've provided an incredibly important service to the Python and > > free software community at large by helping spread information and > > strengthen community ties. > > > > My confusion was specific: I didn't find out where to enter my talk > > description, nor am I clear how it is related to recording the talk, but > I'm > > willing to relinquish the latter and just do the former. Anyway, you are > now > > saying that the site doesn't work, so am now confused as to whether this > is > > still necessary. > > > > > > On 01/10/2013 02:29 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: > > > > I have been on this for over a year. guessing 2 or 3 now. that's > > pretty patient. > > > > goal: help me produce videos. > > > > looks like right now Brian is the only one interested enough to figure > > out how to help, but only a little. I asked for some docs, I see no > > docs. If you or anyone is interested and don't understand what I am > > asking for, ask. > > > > I see the lack of interest as very few people caring about videos, and > > that sucks the motivation out of me to do it. I guarantee what I am > > asking for is way less work/trouble/hassle/money than doing the > > videos. Pretty sure it is way less than someone else coming in and > > making a crappy video too. > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > > > > Well, as with any effort to get people to cooperate, one must be patient > and > > also clearly define the goals. I am not sure any of us are clear exactly > > what you are trying to accomplish or why. Perhaps, at the meeting > tonight, > > get up and explain what you want. I am sure more than a couple people > will > > be willing to help you. > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Carl Karsten > > wrote: > > > > good. > > > > I still want docs or something to help those that can't figure it out > > and someone other than you to enter Tals talk. > > > > It is wearying that people aren't willing to lend a helping hand. > > I am having trouble understanding why. > > > > I am pretty sure that it will be harder for me to find a parking spot, > eh? > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > > > > It was easy enough. > > > > On Jan 10, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Carl Karsten > > wrote: > > > > For those that submit a talk, which so far is just me and Brian, > > > > How much of a hassle was it? > > > > Answer in terms of how much effort should be put into changing it, and > > realize that forking the code adds hassle on my end. Personally, I > > think it is just fine. > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > > > > He wants us to enter it here http://beta.flourishconf.com/ > > > > I have submitted my talk, we may need some additional instructions, > > Carl. > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins > > wrote: > > > > Enter it where? > > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Carl Karsten > > > > wrote: > > > > What magic do I need to preform to get someone to figure out how to > > enter talk data so that I can produce the videos? > > > > -- > > Carl K > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > > > > -- > > Brian Ray > > @brianray > > (773) 669-7717 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > > -- > > Carl K > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > > -- > > Carl K > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > > > > -- > > Brian Ray > > @brianray > > (773) 669-7717 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > > -- > Carl K > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From emperorcezar at gmail.com Thu Jan 10 22:00:10 2013 From: emperorcezar at gmail.com (Adam "Cezar" Jenkins) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:00:10 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] video talk data In-Reply-To: References: <68A8DBDB-902F-47B8-9DA8-7443A70857FD@gmail.com> <50EF25CC.1020605@threecrickets.com> Message-ID: We already figured out the cause of the errors I believe, just haven't had the time yet to put in a pull request. On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Aisha Halim wrote: > I'll take a look for Heroku db errors. > > Thanks for the stack overflow post -- sorry none of us on the flourish end > noticed this. > > > -Aisha > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Carl Karsten > wrote: >> >> More than one person has said the site is confusing. I have been >> working with various versions of it for around 5 years, so it is easy >> for me. I have no idea what is appropriate docs or UI or whatever. I >> am sure someone can help with this. >> >> I see someone else figured out how to enter data... >> >> title: "Tal's 2nd talk on Genie" >> >> I hope you want a better title. >> >> Use the Instructions Brian just posted. >> >> Let me know what you think.. >> >> I'll weed out any redundant entries. >> >> >> heroku is having a problem: "remaining connection slots are reserved >> for non-replication superuser connections" been happening on and >> off for a day. it seems to come and go. 0,0 clue why no one here has >> mentioned it. >> here is some official report: >> >> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13640871/heroku-psql-fatal-remaining-connection-slots-are-reserved-for-non-replication >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Tal Liron >> wrote: >> > I declare today, Jan 10, to be International Carl Karsten Appreciation >> > Day. >> > I think you've provided an incredibly important service to the Python >> > and >> > free software community at large by helping spread information and >> > strengthen community ties. >> > >> > My confusion was specific: I didn't find out where to enter my talk >> > description, nor am I clear how it is related to recording the talk, but >> > I'm >> > willing to relinquish the latter and just do the former. Anyway, you are >> > now >> > saying that the site doesn't work, so am now confused as to whether this >> > is >> > still necessary. >> > >> > >> > On 01/10/2013 02:29 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: >> > >> > I have been on this for over a year. guessing 2 or 3 now. that's >> > pretty patient. >> > >> > goal: help me produce videos. >> > >> > looks like right now Brian is the only one interested enough to figure >> > out how to help, but only a little. I asked for some docs, I see no >> > docs. If you or anyone is interested and don't understand what I am >> > asking for, ask. >> > >> > I see the lack of interest as very few people caring about videos, and >> > that sucks the motivation out of me to do it. I guarantee what I am >> > asking for is way less work/trouble/hassle/money than doing the >> > videos. Pretty sure it is way less than someone else coming in and >> > making a crappy video too. >> > >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Brian Ray wrote: >> > >> > Well, as with any effort to get people to cooperate, one must be patient >> > and >> > also clearly define the goals. I am not sure any of us are clear exactly >> > what you are trying to accomplish or why. Perhaps, at the meeting >> > tonight, >> > get up and explain what you want. I am sure more than a couple people >> > will >> > be willing to help you. >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Carl Karsten >> > wrote: >> > >> > good. >> > >> > I still want docs or something to help those that can't figure it out >> > and someone other than you to enter Tals talk. >> > >> > It is wearying that people aren't willing to lend a helping hand. >> > I am having trouble understanding why. >> > >> > I am pretty sure that it will be harder for me to find a parking spot, >> > eh? >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Brian Ray wrote: >> > >> > It was easy enough. >> > >> > On Jan 10, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Carl Karsten >> > wrote: >> > >> > For those that submit a talk, which so far is just me and Brian, >> > >> > How much of a hassle was it? >> > >> > Answer in terms of how much effort should be put into changing it, and >> > realize that forking the code adds hassle on my end. Personally, I >> > think it is just fine. >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >> > >> > He wants us to enter it here http://beta.flourishconf.com/ >> > >> > I have submitted my talk, we may need some additional instructions, >> > Carl. >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins >> > wrote: >> > >> > Enter it where? >> > >> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Carl Karsten >> > >> > wrote: >> > >> > What magic do I need to preform to get someone to figure out how to >> > enter talk data so that I can produce the videos? >> > >> > -- >> > Carl K >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Chicago mailing list >> > Chicago at python.org >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Chicago mailing list >> > Chicago at python.org >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Brian Ray >> > @brianray >> > (773) 669-7717 >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Chicago mailing list >> > Chicago at python.org >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Carl K >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Chicago mailing list >> > Chicago at python.org >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Chicago mailing list >> > Chicago at python.org >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Carl K >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Chicago mailing list >> > Chicago at python.org >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Brian Ray >> > @brianray >> > (773) 669-7717 >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Chicago mailing list >> > Chicago at python.org >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Chicago mailing list >> > Chicago at python.org >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Carl K >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > From tal.liron at threecrickets.com Thu Jan 10 22:00:29 2013 From: tal.liron at threecrickets.com (Tal Liron) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:00:29 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] video talk data In-Reply-To: References: <68A8DBDB-902F-47B8-9DA8-7443A70857FD@gmail.com> <50EF25CC.1020605@threecrickets.com> Message-ID: <50EF2BED.5030707@threecrickets.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From emperorcezar at gmail.com Thu Jan 10 22:04:56 2013 From: emperorcezar at gmail.com (Adam "Cezar" Jenkins) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:04:56 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] video talk data In-Reply-To: <50EF2BED.5030707@threecrickets.com> References: <68A8DBDB-902F-47B8-9DA8-7443A70857FD@gmail.com> <50EF25CC.1020605@threecrickets.com> <50EF2BED.5030707@threecrickets.com> Message-ID: The site is mostly easy to use from a speaker perspective. From an Admin perspective, it's not bad, but it really needs docs. There's a lot of models that need information before you can even ask for talks. That said, in my opinion, the best UX would be to provide some nice walkthroughs in the dashboard for both Admins and regular users. "Setup a new conference" :) On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Tal Liron wrote: > I entered my talk data. > > My confusion was simple: the site says "March 1-2" and I thought I had to > somehow switch to today's ChiPy event, and couldn't find out how to do that. > Barring that, I thought it was very easy to use! > > > > On 01/10/2013 02:50 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: > > More than one person has said the site is confusing. I have been > working with various versions of it for around 5 years, so it is easy > for me. I have no idea what is appropriate docs or UI or whatever. I > am sure someone can help with this. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > From carl at personnelware.com Thu Jan 10 22:00:39 2013 From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:00:39 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] video talk data In-Reply-To: References: <68A8DBDB-902F-47B8-9DA8-7443A70857FD@gmail.com> <50EF25CC.1020605@threecrickets.com> Message-ID: Samir is aware. seems it just came up in the last day or 2, and it is a heroku problem, so other than being curious, I wouldn't spend any time on it. I have been hanging out in #heroku and a bunch of people are bumping into it, including a PSF friend, On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Aisha Halim wrote: > I'll take a look for Heroku db errors. > > Thanks for the stack overflow post -- sorry none of us on the flourish end > noticed this. > > > -Aisha > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Carl Karsten > wrote: >> >> More than one person has said the site is confusing. I have been >> working with various versions of it for around 5 years, so it is easy >> for me. I have no idea what is appropriate docs or UI or whatever. I >> am sure someone can help with this. >> >> I see someone else figured out how to enter data... >> >> title: "Tal's 2nd talk on Genie" >> >> I hope you want a better title. >> >> Use the Instructions Brian just posted. >> >> Let me know what you think.. >> >> I'll weed out any redundant entries. >> >> >> heroku is having a problem: "remaining connection slots are reserved >> for non-replication superuser connections" been happening on and >> off for a day. it seems to come and go. 0,0 clue why no one here has >> mentioned it. >> here is some official report: >> >> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13640871/heroku-psql-fatal-remaining-connection-slots-are-reserved-for-non-replication >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Tal Liron >> wrote: >> > I declare today, Jan 10, to be International Carl Karsten Appreciation >> > Day. >> > I think you've provided an incredibly important service to the Python >> > and >> > free software community at large by helping spread information and >> > strengthen community ties. >> > >> > My confusion was specific: I didn't find out where to enter my talk >> > description, nor am I clear how it is related to recording the talk, but >> > I'm >> > willing to relinquish the latter and just do the former. Anyway, you are >> > now >> > saying that the site doesn't work, so am now confused as to whether this >> > is >> > still necessary. >> > >> > >> > On 01/10/2013 02:29 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: >> > >> > I have been on this for over a year. guessing 2 or 3 now. that's >> > pretty patient. >> > >> > goal: help me produce videos. >> > >> > looks like right now Brian is the only one interested enough to figure >> > out how to help, but only a little. I asked for some docs, I see no >> > docs. If you or anyone is interested and don't understand what I am >> > asking for, ask. >> > >> > I see the lack of interest as very few people caring about videos, and >> > that sucks the motivation out of me to do it. I guarantee what I am >> > asking for is way less work/trouble/hassle/money than doing the >> > videos. Pretty sure it is way less than someone else coming in and >> > making a crappy video too. >> > >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Brian Ray wrote: >> > >> > Well, as with any effort to get people to cooperate, one must be patient >> > and >> > also clearly define the goals. I am not sure any of us are clear exactly >> > what you are trying to accomplish or why. Perhaps, at the meeting >> > tonight, >> > get up and explain what you want. I am sure more than a couple people >> > will >> > be willing to help you. >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Carl Karsten >> > wrote: >> > >> > good. >> > >> > I still want docs or something to help those that can't figure it out >> > and someone other than you to enter Tals talk. >> > >> > It is wearying that people aren't willing to lend a helping hand. >> > I am having trouble understanding why. >> > >> > I am pretty sure that it will be harder for me to find a parking spot, >> > eh? >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Brian Ray wrote: >> > >> > It was easy enough. >> > >> > On Jan 10, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Carl Karsten >> > wrote: >> > >> > For those that submit a talk, which so far is just me and Brian, >> > >> > How much of a hassle was it? >> > >> > Answer in terms of how much effort should be put into changing it, and >> > realize that forking the code adds hassle on my end. Personally, I >> > think it is just fine. >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >> > >> > He wants us to enter it here http://beta.flourishconf.com/ >> > >> > I have submitted my talk, we may need some additional instructions, >> > Carl. >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins >> > wrote: >> > >> > Enter it where? >> > >> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Carl Karsten >> > >> > wrote: >> > >> > What magic do I need to preform to get someone to figure out how to >> > enter talk data so that I can produce the videos? >> > >> > -- >> > Carl K >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Chicago mailing list >> > Chicago at python.org >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Chicago mailing list >> > Chicago at python.org >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Brian Ray >> > @brianray >> > (773) 669-7717 >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Chicago mailing list >> > Chicago at python.org >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Carl K >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Chicago mailing list >> > Chicago at python.org >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Chicago mailing list >> > Chicago at python.org >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Carl K >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Chicago mailing list >> > Chicago at python.org >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Brian Ray >> > @brianray >> > (773) 669-7717 >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Chicago mailing list >> > Chicago at python.org >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Chicago mailing list >> > Chicago at python.org >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Carl K >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- Carl K From aishahalim at gmail.com Thu Jan 10 22:14:36 2013 From: aishahalim at gmail.com (Aisha Halim) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:14:36 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] video talk data In-Reply-To: References: <68A8DBDB-902F-47B8-9DA8-7443A70857FD@gmail.com> <50EF25CC.1020605@threecrickets.com> Message-ID: Ah, ok great then! I do agree that at least the front page model could use some "Prospective sponsor's go here and do this" and "Speakers, there" kind of bubbles. I'm guessing symposion is barebones for us to modify in that sense. -Aisha On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: > Samir is aware. seems it just came up in the last day or 2, and it is > a heroku problem, so other than being curious, I wouldn't spend any > time on it. > > I have been hanging out in #heroku and a bunch of people are bumping > into it, including a PSF friend, > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Aisha Halim wrote: > > I'll take a look for Heroku db errors. > > > > Thanks for the stack overflow post -- sorry none of us on the flourish > end > > noticed this. > > > > > > -Aisha > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Carl Karsten > > wrote: > >> > >> More than one person has said the site is confusing. I have been > >> working with various versions of it for around 5 years, so it is easy > >> for me. I have no idea what is appropriate docs or UI or whatever. I > >> am sure someone can help with this. > >> > >> I see someone else figured out how to enter data... > >> > >> title: "Tal's 2nd talk on Genie" > >> > >> I hope you want a better title. > >> > >> Use the Instructions Brian just posted. > >> > >> Let me know what you think.. > >> > >> I'll weed out any redundant entries. > >> > >> > >> heroku is having a problem: "remaining connection slots are reserved > >> for non-replication superuser connections" been happening on and > >> off for a day. it seems to come and go. 0,0 clue why no one here has > >> mentioned it. > >> here is some official report: > >> > >> > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13640871/heroku-psql-fatal-remaining-connection-slots-are-reserved-for-non-replication > >> > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Tal Liron > > >> wrote: > >> > I declare today, Jan 10, to be International Carl Karsten Appreciation > >> > Day. > >> > I think you've provided an incredibly important service to the Python > >> > and > >> > free software community at large by helping spread information and > >> > strengthen community ties. > >> > > >> > My confusion was specific: I didn't find out where to enter my talk > >> > description, nor am I clear how it is related to recording the talk, > but > >> > I'm > >> > willing to relinquish the latter and just do the former. Anyway, you > are > >> > now > >> > saying that the site doesn't work, so am now confused as to whether > this > >> > is > >> > still necessary. > >> > > >> > > >> > On 01/10/2013 02:29 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: > >> > > >> > I have been on this for over a year. guessing 2 or 3 now. that's > >> > pretty patient. > >> > > >> > goal: help me produce videos. > >> > > >> > looks like right now Brian is the only one interested enough to figure > >> > out how to help, but only a little. I asked for some docs, I see no > >> > docs. If you or anyone is interested and don't understand what I am > >> > asking for, ask. > >> > > >> > I see the lack of interest as very few people caring about videos, and > >> > that sucks the motivation out of me to do it. I guarantee what I am > >> > asking for is way less work/trouble/hassle/money than doing the > >> > videos. Pretty sure it is way less than someone else coming in and > >> > making a crappy video too. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Brian Ray > wrote: > >> > > >> > Well, as with any effort to get people to cooperate, one must be > patient > >> > and > >> > also clearly define the goals. I am not sure any of us are clear > exactly > >> > what you are trying to accomplish or why. Perhaps, at the meeting > >> > tonight, > >> > get up and explain what you want. I am sure more than a couple people > >> > will > >> > be willing to help you. > >> > > >> > > >> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Carl Karsten > > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> > good. > >> > > >> > I still want docs or something to help those that can't figure it out > >> > and someone other than you to enter Tals talk. > >> > > >> > It is wearying that people aren't willing to lend a helping hand. > >> > I am having trouble understanding why. > >> > > >> > I am pretty sure that it will be harder for me to find a parking spot, > >> > eh? > >> > > >> > > >> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Brian Ray > wrote: > >> > > >> > It was easy enough. > >> > > >> > On Jan 10, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Carl Karsten > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> > For those that submit a talk, which so far is just me and Brian, > >> > > >> > How much of a hassle was it? > >> > > >> > Answer in terms of how much effort should be put into changing it, and > >> > realize that forking the code adds hassle on my end. Personally, I > >> > think it is just fine. > >> > > >> > > >> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Brian Ray > wrote: > >> > > >> > He wants us to enter it here http://beta.flourishconf.com/ > >> > > >> > I have submitted my talk, we may need some additional instructions, > >> > Carl. > >> > > >> > > >> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> > Enter it where? > >> > > >> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Carl Karsten > >> > > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> > What magic do I need to preform to get someone to figure out how to > >> > enter talk data so that I can produce the videos? > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Carl K > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Chicago mailing list > >> > Chicago at python.org > >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Chicago mailing list > >> > Chicago at python.org > >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Brian Ray > >> > @brianray > >> > (773) 669-7717 > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Chicago mailing list > >> > Chicago at python.org > >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Carl K > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Chicago mailing list > >> > Chicago at python.org > >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Chicago mailing list > >> > Chicago at python.org > >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Carl K > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Chicago mailing list > >> > Chicago at python.org > >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Brian Ray > >> > @brianray > >> > (773) 669-7717 > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Chicago mailing list > >> > Chicago at python.org > >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Chicago mailing list > >> > Chicago at python.org > >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Carl K > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Chicago mailing list > >> Chicago at python.org > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > > -- > Carl K > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From special.kevin at gmail.com Thu Jan 10 22:16:08 2013 From: special.kevin at gmail.com (Kevin Harriss) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:16:08 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] video talk data In-Reply-To: References: <68A8DBDB-902F-47B8-9DA8-7443A70857FD@gmail.com> <50EF25CC.1020605@threecrickets.com> Message-ID: Carl or anyone else curious about that Heroku problem, I am pretty sure the problem is that you are running the site behind runserver instead of gunicorn. Runserver appears to be not closing all it's connections so that is why you are running out of connections. As the heroku docs mention you should be running your django/python apps behind gunicorn. Kevin On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: > Samir is aware. seems it just came up in the last day or 2, and it is > a heroku problem, so other than being curious, I wouldn't spend any > time on it. > > I have been hanging out in #heroku and a bunch of people are bumping > into it, including a PSF friend, > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Aisha Halim wrote: > > I'll take a look for Heroku db errors. > > > > Thanks for the stack overflow post -- sorry none of us on the flourish > end > > noticed this. > > > > > > -Aisha > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Carl Karsten > > wrote: > >> > >> More than one person has said the site is confusing. I have been > >> working with various versions of it for around 5 years, so it is easy > >> for me. I have no idea what is appropriate docs or UI or whatever. I > >> am sure someone can help with this. > >> > >> I see someone else figured out how to enter data... > >> > >> title: "Tal's 2nd talk on Genie" > >> > >> I hope you want a better title. > >> > >> Use the Instructions Brian just posted. > >> > >> Let me know what you think.. > >> > >> I'll weed out any redundant entries. > >> > >> > >> heroku is having a problem: "remaining connection slots are reserved > >> for non-replication superuser connections" been happening on and > >> off for a day. it seems to come and go. 0,0 clue why no one here has > >> mentioned it. > >> here is some official report: > >> > >> > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13640871/heroku-psql-fatal-remaining-connection-slots-are-reserved-for-non-replication > >> > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Tal Liron > > >> wrote: > >> > I declare today, Jan 10, to be International Carl Karsten Appreciation > >> > Day. > >> > I think you've provided an incredibly important service to the Python > >> > and > >> > free software community at large by helping spread information and > >> > strengthen community ties. > >> > > >> > My confusion was specific: I didn't find out where to enter my talk > >> > description, nor am I clear how it is related to recording the talk, > but > >> > I'm > >> > willing to relinquish the latter and just do the former. Anyway, you > are > >> > now > >> > saying that the site doesn't work, so am now confused as to whether > this > >> > is > >> > still necessary. > >> > > >> > > >> > On 01/10/2013 02:29 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: > >> > > >> > I have been on this for over a year. guessing 2 or 3 now. that's > >> > pretty patient. > >> > > >> > goal: help me produce videos. > >> > > >> > looks like right now Brian is the only one interested enough to figure > >> > out how to help, but only a little. I asked for some docs, I see no > >> > docs. If you or anyone is interested and don't understand what I am > >> > asking for, ask. > >> > > >> > I see the lack of interest as very few people caring about videos, and > >> > that sucks the motivation out of me to do it. I guarantee what I am > >> > asking for is way less work/trouble/hassle/money than doing the > >> > videos. Pretty sure it is way less than someone else coming in and > >> > making a crappy video too. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Brian Ray > wrote: > >> > > >> > Well, as with any effort to get people to cooperate, one must be > patient > >> > and > >> > also clearly define the goals. I am not sure any of us are clear > exactly > >> > what you are trying to accomplish or why. Perhaps, at the meeting > >> > tonight, > >> > get up and explain what you want. I am sure more than a couple people > >> > will > >> > be willing to help you. > >> > > >> > > >> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Carl Karsten > > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> > good. > >> > > >> > I still want docs or something to help those that can't figure it out > >> > and someone other than you to enter Tals talk. > >> > > >> > It is wearying that people aren't willing to lend a helping hand. > >> > I am having trouble understanding why. > >> > > >> > I am pretty sure that it will be harder for me to find a parking spot, > >> > eh? > >> > > >> > > >> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Brian Ray > wrote: > >> > > >> > It was easy enough. > >> > > >> > On Jan 10, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Carl Karsten > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> > For those that submit a talk, which so far is just me and Brian, > >> > > >> > How much of a hassle was it? > >> > > >> > Answer in terms of how much effort should be put into changing it, and > >> > realize that forking the code adds hassle on my end. Personally, I > >> > think it is just fine. > >> > > >> > > >> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Brian Ray > wrote: > >> > > >> > He wants us to enter it here http://beta.flourishconf.com/ > >> > > >> > I have submitted my talk, we may need some additional instructions, > >> > Carl. > >> > > >> > > >> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> > Enter it where? > >> > > >> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Carl Karsten > >> > > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> > What magic do I need to preform to get someone to figure out how to > >> > enter talk data so that I can produce the videos? > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Carl K > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Chicago mailing list > >> > Chicago at python.org > >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Chicago mailing list > >> > Chicago at python.org > >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Brian Ray > >> > @brianray > >> > (773) 669-7717 > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Chicago mailing list > >> > Chicago at python.org > >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Carl K > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Chicago mailing list > >> > Chicago at python.org > >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Chicago mailing list > >> > Chicago at python.org > >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Carl K > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Chicago mailing list > >> > Chicago at python.org > >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Brian Ray > >> > @brianray > >> > (773) 669-7717 > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Chicago mailing list > >> > Chicago at python.org > >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Chicago mailing list > >> > Chicago at python.org > >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Carl K > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Chicago mailing list > >> Chicago at python.org > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > > -- > Carl K > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aishahalim at gmail.com Thu Jan 10 22:21:42 2013 From: aishahalim at gmail.com (Aisha Halim) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:21:42 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] video talk data In-Reply-To: References: <68A8DBDB-902F-47B8-9DA8-7443A70857FD@gmail.com> <50EF25CC.1020605@threecrickets.com> Message-ID: You're correct that we're not using gunicorn. Cezar had a pull request earlier: https://github.com/FlourishConference/symposion/commit/a9d2915ae3b6c09b81e23e4c444f334c098058fd And that didn't work out well with the heroku deployment...none of us really got around to figuring that out so just reverted the commit. -Aisha On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Kevin Harriss wrote: > Carl or anyone else curious about that Heroku problem, > > I am pretty sure the problem is that you are running the site behind > runserver instead of gunicorn. Runserver appears to be not closing all it's > connections so that is why you are running out of connections. As the > heroku docs mention you should be running your django/python apps behind > gunicorn. > > Kevin > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: > >> Samir is aware. seems it just came up in the last day or 2, and it is >> a heroku problem, so other than being curious, I wouldn't spend any >> time on it. >> >> I have been hanging out in #heroku and a bunch of people are bumping >> into it, including a PSF friend, >> >> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Aisha Halim >> wrote: >> > I'll take a look for Heroku db errors. >> > >> > Thanks for the stack overflow post -- sorry none of us on the flourish >> end >> > noticed this. >> > >> > >> > -Aisha >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Carl Karsten >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> More than one person has said the site is confusing. I have been >> >> working with various versions of it for around 5 years, so it is easy >> >> for me. I have no idea what is appropriate docs or UI or whatever. I >> >> am sure someone can help with this. >> >> >> >> I see someone else figured out how to enter data... >> >> >> >> title: "Tal's 2nd talk on Genie" >> >> >> >> I hope you want a better title. >> >> >> >> Use the Instructions Brian just posted. >> >> >> >> Let me know what you think.. >> >> >> >> I'll weed out any redundant entries. >> >> >> >> >> >> heroku is having a problem: "remaining connection slots are reserved >> >> for non-replication superuser connections" been happening on and >> >> off for a day. it seems to come and go. 0,0 clue why no one here has >> >> mentioned it. >> >> here is some official report: >> >> >> >> >> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13640871/heroku-psql-fatal-remaining-connection-slots-are-reserved-for-non-replication >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Tal Liron < >> tal.liron at threecrickets.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> > I declare today, Jan 10, to be International Carl Karsten >> Appreciation >> >> > Day. >> >> > I think you've provided an incredibly important service to the Python >> >> > and >> >> > free software community at large by helping spread information and >> >> > strengthen community ties. >> >> > >> >> > My confusion was specific: I didn't find out where to enter my talk >> >> > description, nor am I clear how it is related to recording the talk, >> but >> >> > I'm >> >> > willing to relinquish the latter and just do the former. Anyway, you >> are >> >> > now >> >> > saying that the site doesn't work, so am now confused as to whether >> this >> >> > is >> >> > still necessary. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On 01/10/2013 02:29 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: >> >> > >> >> > I have been on this for over a year. guessing 2 or 3 now. that's >> >> > pretty patient. >> >> > >> >> > goal: help me produce videos. >> >> > >> >> > looks like right now Brian is the only one interested enough to >> figure >> >> > out how to help, but only a little. I asked for some docs, I see no >> >> > docs. If you or anyone is interested and don't understand what I am >> >> > asking for, ask. >> >> > >> >> > I see the lack of interest as very few people caring about videos, >> and >> >> > that sucks the motivation out of me to do it. I guarantee what I am >> >> > asking for is way less work/trouble/hassle/money than doing the >> >> > videos. Pretty sure it is way less than someone else coming in and >> >> > making a crappy video too. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Brian Ray >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > Well, as with any effort to get people to cooperate, one must be >> patient >> >> > and >> >> > also clearly define the goals. I am not sure any of us are clear >> exactly >> >> > what you are trying to accomplish or why. Perhaps, at the meeting >> >> > tonight, >> >> > get up and explain what you want. I am sure more than a couple people >> >> > will >> >> > be willing to help you. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Carl Karsten < >> carl at personnelware.com> >> >> > wrote: >> >> > >> >> > good. >> >> > >> >> > I still want docs or something to help those that can't figure it out >> >> > and someone other than you to enter Tals talk. >> >> > >> >> > It is wearying that people aren't willing to lend a helping hand. >> >> > I am having trouble understanding why. >> >> > >> >> > I am pretty sure that it will be harder for me to find a parking >> spot, >> >> > eh? >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Brian Ray >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > It was easy enough. >> >> > >> >> > On Jan 10, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Carl Karsten >> >> > wrote: >> >> > >> >> > For those that submit a talk, which so far is just me and Brian, >> >> > >> >> > How much of a hassle was it? >> >> > >> >> > Answer in terms of how much effort should be put into changing it, >> and >> >> > realize that forking the code adds hassle on my end. Personally, I >> >> > think it is just fine. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Brian Ray >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > He wants us to enter it here http://beta.flourishconf.com/ >> >> > >> >> > I have submitted my talk, we may need some additional instructions, >> >> > Carl. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins >> >> > wrote: >> >> > >> >> > Enter it where? >> >> > >> >> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Carl Karsten >> >> > >> >> > wrote: >> >> > >> >> > What magic do I need to preform to get someone to figure out how to >> >> > enter talk data so that I can produce the videos? >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Carl K >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > Chicago mailing list >> >> > Chicago at python.org >> >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > Chicago mailing list >> >> > Chicago at python.org >> >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Brian Ray >> >> > @brianray >> >> > (773) 669-7717 >> >> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > Chicago mailing list >> >> > Chicago at python.org >> >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Carl K >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > Chicago mailing list >> >> > Chicago at python.org >> >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > Chicago mailing list >> >> > Chicago at python.org >> >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Carl K >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > Chicago mailing list >> >> > Chicago at python.org >> >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Brian Ray >> >> > @brianray >> >> > (773) 669-7717 >> >> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > Chicago mailing list >> >> > Chicago at python.org >> >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > Chicago mailing list >> >> > Chicago at python.org >> >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Carl K >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Chicago mailing list >> >> Chicago at python.org >> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Chicago mailing list >> > Chicago at python.org >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Carl K >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From emperorcezar at gmail.com Thu Jan 10 22:38:22 2013 From: emperorcezar at gmail.com (Adam "Cezar" Jenkins) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:38:22 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] video talk data In-Reply-To: References: <68A8DBDB-902F-47B8-9DA8-7443A70857FD@gmail.com> <50EF25CC.1020605@threecrickets.com> Message-ID: >From what was describe, when it was turned on the direct serving of static and media file turned off. So all your css is gone. It's just a setting, but I have to get the time to do so. On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Aisha Halim wrote: > You're correct that we're not using gunicorn. Cezar had a pull request > earlier: > > https://github.com/FlourishConference/symposion/commit/a9d2915ae3b6c09b81e23e4c444f334c098058fd > > And that didn't work out well with the heroku deployment...none of us really > got around to figuring that out so just reverted the commit. > > > -Aisha > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Kevin Harriss > wrote: >> >> Carl or anyone else curious about that Heroku problem, >> >> I am pretty sure the problem is that you are running the site behind >> runserver instead of gunicorn. Runserver appears to be not closing all it's >> connections so that is why you are running out of connections. As the heroku >> docs mention you should be running your django/python apps behind gunicorn. >> >> Kevin >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Carl Karsten >> wrote: >>> >>> Samir is aware. seems it just came up in the last day or 2, and it is >>> a heroku problem, so other than being curious, I wouldn't spend any >>> time on it. >>> >>> I have been hanging out in #heroku and a bunch of people are bumping >>> into it, including a PSF friend, >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Aisha Halim >>> wrote: >>> > I'll take a look for Heroku db errors. >>> > >>> > Thanks for the stack overflow post -- sorry none of us on the flourish >>> > end >>> > noticed this. >>> > >>> > >>> > -Aisha >>> > >>> > >>> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Carl Karsten >>> > wrote: >>> >> >>> >> More than one person has said the site is confusing. I have been >>> >> working with various versions of it for around 5 years, so it is easy >>> >> for me. I have no idea what is appropriate docs or UI or whatever. I >>> >> am sure someone can help with this. >>> >> >>> >> I see someone else figured out how to enter data... >>> >> >>> >> title: "Tal's 2nd talk on Genie" >>> >> >>> >> I hope you want a better title. >>> >> >>> >> Use the Instructions Brian just posted. >>> >> >>> >> Let me know what you think.. >>> >> >>> >> I'll weed out any redundant entries. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> heroku is having a problem: "remaining connection slots are reserved >>> >> for non-replication superuser connections" been happening on and >>> >> off for a day. it seems to come and go. 0,0 clue why no one here has >>> >> mentioned it. >>> >> here is some official report: >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13640871/heroku-psql-fatal-remaining-connection-slots-are-reserved-for-non-replication >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Tal Liron >>> >> >>> >> wrote: >>> >> > I declare today, Jan 10, to be International Carl Karsten >>> >> > Appreciation >>> >> > Day. >>> >> > I think you've provided an incredibly important service to the >>> >> > Python >>> >> > and >>> >> > free software community at large by helping spread information and >>> >> > strengthen community ties. >>> >> > >>> >> > My confusion was specific: I didn't find out where to enter my talk >>> >> > description, nor am I clear how it is related to recording the talk, >>> >> > but >>> >> > I'm >>> >> > willing to relinquish the latter and just do the former. Anyway, you >>> >> > are >>> >> > now >>> >> > saying that the site doesn't work, so am now confused as to whether >>> >> > this >>> >> > is >>> >> > still necessary. >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > On 01/10/2013 02:29 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: >>> >> > >>> >> > I have been on this for over a year. guessing 2 or 3 now. that's >>> >> > pretty patient. >>> >> > >>> >> > goal: help me produce videos. >>> >> > >>> >> > looks like right now Brian is the only one interested enough to >>> >> > figure >>> >> > out how to help, but only a little. I asked for some docs, I see no >>> >> > docs. If you or anyone is interested and don't understand what I am >>> >> > asking for, ask. >>> >> > >>> >> > I see the lack of interest as very few people caring about videos, >>> >> > and >>> >> > that sucks the motivation out of me to do it. I guarantee what I am >>> >> > asking for is way less work/trouble/hassle/money than doing the >>> >> > videos. Pretty sure it is way less than someone else coming in and >>> >> > making a crappy video too. >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Brian Ray >>> >> > wrote: >>> >> > >>> >> > Well, as with any effort to get people to cooperate, one must be >>> >> > patient >>> >> > and >>> >> > also clearly define the goals. I am not sure any of us are clear >>> >> > exactly >>> >> > what you are trying to accomplish or why. Perhaps, at the meeting >>> >> > tonight, >>> >> > get up and explain what you want. I am sure more than a couple >>> >> > people >>> >> > will >>> >> > be willing to help you. >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Carl Karsten >>> >> > >>> >> > wrote: >>> >> > >>> >> > good. >>> >> > >>> >> > I still want docs or something to help those that can't figure it >>> >> > out >>> >> > and someone other than you to enter Tals talk. >>> >> > >>> >> > It is wearying that people aren't willing to lend a helping hand. >>> >> > I am having trouble understanding why. >>> >> > >>> >> > I am pretty sure that it will be harder for me to find a parking >>> >> > spot, >>> >> > eh? >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Brian Ray >>> >> > wrote: >>> >> > >>> >> > It was easy enough. >>> >> > >>> >> > On Jan 10, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Carl Karsten >>> >> > wrote: >>> >> > >>> >> > For those that submit a talk, which so far is just me and Brian, >>> >> > >>> >> > How much of a hassle was it? >>> >> > >>> >> > Answer in terms of how much effort should be put into changing it, >>> >> > and >>> >> > realize that forking the code adds hassle on my end. Personally, I >>> >> > think it is just fine. >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Brian Ray >>> >> > wrote: >>> >> > >>> >> > He wants us to enter it here http://beta.flourishconf.com/ >>> >> > >>> >> > I have submitted my talk, we may need some additional instructions, >>> >> > Carl. >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins >>> >> > wrote: >>> >> > >>> >> > Enter it where? >>> >> > >>> >> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Carl Karsten >>> >> > >>> >> > wrote: >>> >> > >>> >> > What magic do I need to preform to get someone to figure out how to >>> >> > enter talk data so that I can produce the videos? >>> >> > >>> >> > -- >>> >> > Carl K >>> >> > _______________________________________________ >>> >> > Chicago mailing list >>> >> > Chicago at python.org >>> >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >> > >>> >> > _______________________________________________ >>> >> > Chicago mailing list >>> >> > Chicago at python.org >>> >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > -- >>> >> > Brian Ray >>> >> > @brianray >>> >> > (773) 669-7717 >>> >> > >>> >> > _______________________________________________ >>> >> > Chicago mailing list >>> >> > Chicago at python.org >>> >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > -- >>> >> > Carl K >>> >> > _______________________________________________ >>> >> > Chicago mailing list >>> >> > Chicago at python.org >>> >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >> > >>> >> > _______________________________________________ >>> >> > Chicago mailing list >>> >> > Chicago at python.org >>> >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > -- >>> >> > Carl K >>> >> > _______________________________________________ >>> >> > Chicago mailing list >>> >> > Chicago at python.org >>> >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > -- >>> >> > Brian Ray >>> >> > @brianray >>> >> > (773) 669-7717 >>> >> > >>> >> > _______________________________________________ >>> >> > Chicago mailing list >>> >> > Chicago at python.org >>> >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > _______________________________________________ >>> >> > Chicago mailing list >>> >> > Chicago at python.org >>> >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Carl K >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Chicago mailing list >>> >> Chicago at python.org >>> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Chicago mailing list >>> > Chicago at python.org >>> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Carl K >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > From carl at personnelware.com Thu Jan 10 23:21:43 2013 From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 16:21:43 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] print me please Message-ID: someone coming tonight http://veyepar.nextdayvideo.com:8080/main/recording_sheets/84/chipy_jan_2013_recording_sheets.pdf I need that printed and brought to the meeting. I have no printer handy. -- Carl K From brianhray at gmail.com Thu Jan 10 23:36:28 2013 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 16:36:28 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] print me please In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I will print and bring. On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: > someone coming tonight > > > http://veyepar.nextdayvideo.com:8080/main/recording_sheets/84/chipy_jan_2013_recording_sheets.pdf > > I need that printed and brought to the meeting. > > I have no printer handy. > > -- > Carl K > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- Brian Ray @brianray (773) 669-7717 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joelpearson at uchicago.edu Fri Jan 11 00:26:52 2013 From: joelpearson at uchicago.edu (Joel Pearson) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 23:26:52 +0000 Subject: [Chicago] Python/Django position at UCHICAGO Impact Message-ID: I'm a Python programmer, and the educational software startup I work for has an opening for a Python/Django developer. It's a good place to work, so I thought I'd pass on the info in case anyone in the group was interested. I'll also be at the meeting tonight in case anyone wants to talk about it. Excerpt from the job posting: """Interested in joining a funded, not-for-profit startup with millions of users? At UChicago Impact (affiliate of the University of Chicago), we build and scale solutions to the challenges faced by school districts across the country. Our new team member would join a successful growing organization already improving schools in 19 states and 33 cities. As a Web Developer you will be developing and improving our flagship product platform; creating and improving web services, business logic, data models, caching and performance strategy that scales to millions of users. We expect 70% of your time will be spent programming in Python. This is a young, fast-evolving product developed by a very small team; we expect you to be proactive, to propose enhancements and take responsibility for them. UChicago Impact offers a generous benefit (medical, dental, vision) packet, a flexible paid time off policy and a 4% dollar-for-dollar 403b employer match.""" For full details, see: http://uchicagoimpact.simplicant.com/job/detail/11486-web-developer Joel -- Joel Pearson Senior Python Web Developer UCHICAGO Impact From tal.liron at threecrickets.com Fri Jan 11 08:32:59 2013 From: tal.liron at threecrickets.com (Tal Liron) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 01:32:59 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Python Survives All Message-ID: <50EFC02B.8090903@threecrickets.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From randy7771026 at gmail.com Fri Jan 11 12:36:14 2013 From: randy7771026 at gmail.com (Randy Baxley) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 05:36:14 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Python Survives All In-Reply-To: <50EFC02B.8090903@threecrickets.com> References: <50EFC02B.8090903@threecrickets.com> Message-ID: Should have compiled in Genie then would have had less wind resistance. On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 1:32 AM, Tal Liron wrote: > Just sayin': > > > http://gawker.com/5974780/snake-on-a-plane-qantas-passenger-spots-python-on-wing-during-flight > > -Tal > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chad at glendenin.com Fri Jan 11 19:00:10 2013 From: chad at glendenin.com (Chad Glendenin) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 12:00:10 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] =?windows-1252?q?Python_Tools_for_Visual_Studio=85_2012?= =?windows-1252?q?_Express=3F?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you, Brian. That worked. In case anybody else runs into this, it turns out, it's actually fairly well documented. I'm not sure how I managed to overlook this page: http://pytools.codeplex.com/wikipage?title=Installation%20-%20details&referringTitle=Home On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Brian Curtin wrote: > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:35 PM, Chad Glendenin > wrote: > > I hope this isn't a stupid question, but I've spent some time googling it > > already, and I'm not finding a good answer. Do the Python Tools for > Visual > > Studio (PTVS) work with Visual Studio 2012 Express? > > > > I already installed Visual Studio 2012 "Express for Web" in a Windows 7 > VM > > to play around with VS's TypeScript support. Then I wanted to try PTVS > (with > > IronPython), but the installer says something like "Visual Studio 2012 is > > required" and refuses to install. > > > > I thought I already had VS 2012. :-/ Does PTVS require a *non-Express* > > version of VS 2012? > > > > I found some docs about installing PTVS in VS 2010 "integrated shell," > > whatever the heck that is, but I've already spent a bunch of time > installing > > VS 2012, so I'm nervous about mucking around with it too much and > breaking > > what's already working. > > > > I appreciate any pointers or advice. > > Express does not support plugins, extensions, or whatever they call > things like PTVS these days. You should be able to just install the > integrated shell alongside your current setup and then try PTVS again. > I did something like this a few years back with an IDE project that > came before PTVS that *required* the integrated shell and couldn't > work inside the full VS. > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mdipierro at cs.depaul.edu Fri Jan 11 21:39:10 2013 From: mdipierro at cs.depaul.edu (Massimo DiPierro) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 14:39:10 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Fwd: web2py developmers References: <115481554.3582022.1357834750620.JavaMail.app@ela4-app2313.prod> Message-ID: <807E31D7-A88B-4C9D-8E07-1B2ED1A8C79A@cs.depaul.edu> Hello everybody, I got this from a recruiter. I assume it is ok if I forward it to this list. Massimo Begin forwarded message: > From: Jason Burosh via LinkedIn > Subject: web2py developmers > Date: January 10, 2013 10:19:10 AM CST > To: Massimo Di Pierro > Cc: Jason Burosh > Reply-To: Jason Burosh > > LinkedIn > Jason Burosh has sent you a message. > Date: 1/10/2013 > Subject: web2py developmers > Hi Massimo - > > I am the CEO of PlanetHost, Inc and we do large application development projects primarily in python and web2py. We have talked in the past and some of my developers you may know... like Dave XXX (who has contributed to the project) and also one of your former students Michael XXX. > > Dave is a senior developer, and Michael (junior) is working on multiple projects and coming along nicely. However, I am in desperate need for another senior python/web2py developer NOW. I have two projects with deadlines approaching in Feb, and could really use some help finding senior developers that can jump in and hit the ground running. We are slightly behind and I feel I do not have the resources to deliver on expectations right now. I could use 1 or 2 guys. After they help complete these 2 projects there will be many more so I hope to add to my development staff. > > Is there anyone you can connect me with who you think may be a good fit to help us out? I am here in Chicago, so it would be great to have local resources that I could meet up with and get them up to speed immediately. > > We should meet sometime soon as well. Let me know the next networking event you are attending locally and we can get a cup of coffee. Looking forward to hearing from you. > > Many thanks, > > Jason Burosh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sk8asd123 at gmail.com Sat Jan 12 00:07:28 2013 From: sk8asd123 at gmail.com (Paige Lo) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:07:28 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Archive Meeting Videos Message-ID: Where are the videos recording from the meetings located? 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On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Randy Baxley wrote: > http://pyvideo.org/category/14/chipy > > but I do not see an update since October 2012 > > > On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Paige Lo wrote: >> >> Where are the videos recording from the meetings located? >> >> Cheers, >> >> PaigeLo >> >> (708) 642-8877 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- Carl K From brianhray at gmail.com Sat Jan 12 17:38:50 2013 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:38:50 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] RIP Aaron Swartz Message-ID: http://boingboing.net/2013/01/12/rip-aaron-swartz.html -- Brian Ray @brianray (773) 669-7717 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From randy7771026 at gmail.com Sat Jan 12 22:10:07 2013 From: randy7771026 at gmail.com (Randy Baxley) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 15:10:07 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] RIP Aaron Swartz In-Reply-To: <96DAEEE0-5E88-40CC-9756-23008A76331E@gmail.com> References: <96DAEEE0-5E88-40CC-9756-23008A76331E@gmail.com> Message-ID: NYT is catching up. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/13/technology/aaron-swartz-internet-activist-dies-at-26.html?pagewanted=1&_r=0 These types of things happen way too often. Our minds are extremely complex and wonderful and yet so often the world in which we live seems like jar of rubber glue. I am a little smart but folks Aaron Swartz and Steve Huffman amaze me. On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > Not sure how many of you remember the ChiPy debates ( Feb 2006 ? ) around > Reedit and web.py. I think Ed Summers spoke and we did not realize Aaron > was in the audience until later. > > > On Jan 12, 2013, at 10:38 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > > http://boingboing.net/2013/01/12/rip-aaron-swartz.html > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From adrian at holovaty.com Sat Jan 12 22:17:57 2013 From: adrian at holovaty.com (Adrian Holovaty) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 15:17:57 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] RIP Aaron Swartz In-Reply-To: <96DAEEE0-5E88-40CC-9756-23008A76331E@gmail.com> References: <96DAEEE0-5E88-40CC-9756-23008A76331E@gmail.com> Message-ID: I remember Aaron went to a Chipy meeting once and remarked to me afterward that he was super impressed. He said it put the Bay Area Python group to shame. Adrian On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > Not sure how many of you remember the ChiPy debates ( Feb 2006 ? ) around > Reedit and web.py. I think Ed Summers spoke and we did not realize Aaron > was in the audience until later. > > > On Jan 12, 2013, at 10:38 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > > http://boingboing.net/2013/01/12/rip-aaron-swartz.html > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > From mdipierro at cs.depaul.edu Sat Jan 12 22:32:38 2013 From: mdipierro at cs.depaul.edu (Massimo DiPierro) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 15:32:38 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] RIP Aaron Swartz In-Reply-To: References: <96DAEEE0-5E88-40CC-9756-23008A76331E@gmail.com> Message-ID: This is very bad news indeed. I did not know Aaron personally and I have never met him but I learned a lot from many of the technologies he developed including web.py, markdown, and reddit. Thank you Aaron. On Jan 12, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Randy Baxley wrote: > NYT is catching up. > > http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/13/technology/aaron-swartz-internet-activist-dies-at-26.html?pagewanted=1&_r=0 > > These types of things happen way too often. Our minds are extremely complex and wonderful and yet so often the world in which we live seems like jar of rubber glue. > > I am a little smart but folks Aaron Swartz and Steve Huffman amaze me. > > > On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > Not sure how many of you remember the ChiPy debates ( Feb 2006 ? ) around Reedit and web.py. I think Ed Summers spoke and we did not realize Aaron was in the audience until later. > > > On Jan 12, 2013, at 10:38 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > >> http://boingboing.net/2013/01/12/rip-aaron-swartz.html >> >> -- >> Brian Ray >> @brianray >> (773) 669-7717 >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ken at stox.org Sat Jan 12 23:06:02 2013 From: ken at stox.org (Kenneth Stox) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 16:06:02 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] RIP Aaron Swartz In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1358028362.8545.3.camel@cerebrus> I am indeed saddened today. Aaron was a brilliant man. He fought the good fight. I am reminded of a quote from Blade Runner: "The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long - and you have burned so very, very brightly, Roy." RIP, Aaron, you burned so very, very brightly. ________________________________________________________________________ On Sat, 2013-01-12 at 10:38 -0600, Brian Ray wrote: > http://boingboing.net/2013/01/12/rip-aaron-swartz.html > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago From toba at des.truct.org Sat Jan 12 23:26:54 2013 From: toba at des.truct.org (Eric Stein) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 16:26:54 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] RIP Aaron Swartz In-Reply-To: <1358028362.8545.3.camel@cerebrus> References: <1358028362.8545.3.camel@cerebrus> Message-ID: <50F1E32E.2050906@des.truct.org> Well said. You just brought a tear to my eye. Bye Aaron, may we keep fighting the fight you brought to so many. Eric On 01/12/2013 04:06 PM, Kenneth Stox wrote: > I am indeed saddened today. Aaron was a brilliant man. He fought the > good fight. > > I am reminded of a quote from Blade Runner: > > "The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long - and you have > burned so very, very brightly, Roy." > > RIP, Aaron, you burned so very, very brightly. > ________________________________________________________________________ > > On Sat, 2013-01-12 at 10:38 -0600, Brian Ray wrote: >> http://boingboing.net/2013/01/12/rip-aaron-swartz.html >> >> -- >> Brian Ray >> @brianray >> (773) 669-7717 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago From pkaushik at alum.mit.edu Sat Jan 12 23:44:32 2013 From: pkaushik at alum.mit.edu (Pallavi Anderson) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 16:44:32 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] RIP Aaron Swartz In-Reply-To: <50F1E32E.2050906@des.truct.org> References: <1358028362.8545.3.camel@cerebrus> <50F1E32E.2050906@des.truct.org> Message-ID: I didn't know Aaron, but this is heartbreaking. http://lessig.tumblr.com/post/40347463044/prosecutor-as-bully On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Eric Stein wrote: > Well said. You just brought a tear to my eye. > Bye Aaron, may we keep fighting the fight you brought to so many. > > Eric > > On 01/12/2013 04:06 PM, Kenneth Stox wrote: >> I am indeed saddened today. Aaron was a brilliant man. He fought the >> good fight. >> >> I am reminded of a quote from Blade Runner: >> >> "The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long - and you have >> burned so very, very brightly, Roy." >> >> RIP, Aaron, you burned so very, very brightly. >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> >> On Sat, 2013-01-12 at 10:38 -0600, Brian Ray wrote: >>> http://boingboing.net/2013/01/12/rip-aaron-swartz.html >>> >>> -- >>> Brian Ray >>> @brianray >>> (773) 669-7717 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -- @pkaushik From danieltpeters at gmail.com Sun Jan 13 00:00:16 2013 From: danieltpeters at gmail.com (Daniel Peters) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 17:00:16 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] RIP Aaron Swartz In-Reply-To: <50F1E32E.2050906@des.truct.org> References: <1358028362.8545.3.camel@cerebrus> <50F1E32E.2050906@des.truct.org> Message-ID: this. may we keep fighting the fight you brought to so many. I never met aaron, but I knew his work, and it was truly an inspiration to me. On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Eric Stein wrote: > Well said. You just brought a tear to my eye. > Bye Aaron, may we keep fighting the fight you brought to so many. > > Eric > > On 01/12/2013 04:06 PM, Kenneth Stox wrote: > > I am indeed saddened today. Aaron was a brilliant man. He fought the > > good fight. > > > > I am reminded of a quote from Blade Runner: > > > > "The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long - and you have > > burned so very, very brightly, Roy." > > > > RIP, Aaron, you burned so very, very brightly. > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > On Sat, 2013-01-12 at 10:38 -0600, Brian Ray wrote: > >> http://boingboing.net/2013/01/12/rip-aaron-swartz.html > >> > >> -- > >> Brian Ray > >> @brianray > >> (773) 669-7717 > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Chicago mailing list > >> Chicago at python.org > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skip at pobox.com Thu Jan 10 17:15:27 2013 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 10:15:27 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Site accounts In-Reply-To: References: <50EC8DD7.9030501@hafd.org> Message-ID: >> Isn't it kinda nannyish to assume that a bunch of python programmers are >> going to have bad password hygiene and therefore shouldn't be allowed to >> create their own password for the site if they want to? > > No. > > - speaking as someone involved with the current wiki.python.org issues > since it was recently compromised due to vulnerabilities. People of all stripes have bad password hygiene. If you classify your accounts as sensitive and non-sensitive (based on the kind of information those accounts contain), then the biggest problem as far as cross talk between accounts goes, is using the same password on an insensitive account (say, wiki.python.org) as you do on a sensitive account (say, your Citibank online account). Of secondary concern is using the same password across multiple sensitive accounts. (Citibank suffers a break-in and there goes your Google environment.) There's less and less excuse for that as most password safes have a "generate password" button. While I was disappointed to see the loss of wiki.python.org, it wasn't because my password might have been cracked. (I long ago stopped using my password there anyway, and just used OpenID.) Skip From jordanb at hafd.org Fri Jan 11 17:42:54 2013 From: jordanb at hafd.org (Jordan Bettis) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 10:42:54 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Kim Jung Un vs Psy Message-ID: <50F0410E.6090403@hafd.org> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPOD5f6wRw4 From ken at stox.org Sun Jan 13 01:24:58 2013 From: ken at stox.org (Kenneth Stox) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 18:24:58 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Official Statement from Aaron's Family and partner Message-ID: <1358036698.11094.2.camel@cerebrus> http://rememberaaronsw.tumblr.com/post/40372208044/official-statement-from-the-family-and-partner-of-aaron From warren.lindsey at gmail.com Sun Jan 13 02:24:28 2013 From: warren.lindsey at gmail.com (Warren Lindsey) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 19:24:28 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Site accounts In-Reply-To: References: <50EC8DD7.9030501@hafd.org> Message-ID: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/03/perl_monks_password_hack/ On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Skip Montanaro wrote: > >> Isn't it kinda nannyish to assume that a bunch of python programmers are > >> going to have bad password hygiene and therefore shouldn't be allowed to > >> create their own password for the site if they want to? > > > > No. > > > > - speaking as someone involved with the current wiki.python.org issues > > since it was recently compromised due to vulnerabilities. > > People of all stripes have bad password hygiene. If you classify your > accounts as sensitive and non-sensitive (based on the kind of > information those accounts contain), then the biggest problem as far > as cross talk between accounts goes, is using the same password on an > insensitive account (say, wiki.python.org) as you do on a sensitive > account (say, your Citibank online account). Of secondary concern is > using the same password across multiple sensitive accounts. (Citibank > suffers a break-in and there goes your Google environment.) There's > less and less excuse for that as most password safes have a "generate > password" button. > > While I was disappointed to see the loss of wiki.python.org, it wasn't > because my password might have been cracked. (I long ago stopped > using my password there anyway, and just used OpenID.) > > Skip > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skip.montanaro at gmail.com Sun Jan 13 03:06:20 2013 From: skip.montanaro at gmail.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 20:06:20 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Site accounts In-Reply-To: References: <50EC8DD7.9030501@hafd.org> Message-ID: This appears to be from 2009. Other than reminding people to be vigilant and choose strong passwords on a regular basis, does this pertain to any current incident? Thx, Skip On Jan 12, 2013 7:32 PM, "Warren Lindsey" wrote: > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/03/perl_monks_password_hack/ > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Skip Montanaro wrote: > >> >> Isn't it kinda nannyish to assume that a bunch of python programmers >> are >> >> going to have bad password hygiene and therefore shouldn't be allowed >> to >> >> create their own password for the site if they want to? >> > >> > No. >> > >> > - speaking as someone involved with the current wiki.python.org issues >> > since it was recently compromised due to vulnerabilities. >> >> People of all stripes have bad password hygiene. If you classify your >> accounts as sensitive and non-sensitive (based on the kind of >> information those accounts contain), then the biggest problem as far >> as cross talk between accounts goes, is using the same password on an >> insensitive account (say, wiki.python.org) as you do on a sensitive >> account (say, your Citibank online account). Of secondary concern is >> using the same password across multiple sensitive accounts. (Citibank >> suffers a break-in and there goes your Google environment.) There's >> less and less excuse for that as most password safes have a "generate >> password" button. >> >> While I was disappointed to see the loss of wiki.python.org, it wasn't >> because my password might have been cracked. (I long ago stopped >> using my password there anyway, and just used OpenID.) >> >> Skip >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Instead of passing the number of iterates to all lambda functions, is there a way to make an islice() call at the main code, as below, but making it get only the first 100 iterates in all inner maps as well? Thanks, Oren --------------------- import colorsys, itertools, numpy as np from fractions import Fraction def zenos_dichotomy(): ''' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1/2_%2B_1/4_%2B_1/8_%2B_1/16_%2B_%C2%B7_%C2%B7_%C2%B7 ''' for k in itertools.count(): yield Fraction(1, 2 ** k) def getfracs(): ''' [Fraction(0, 1), Fraction(1, 2), Fraction(1, 4), Fraction(3, 4), Fraction(1, 8), Fraction(3, 8), Fraction(5, 8), Fraction(7, 8), Fraction(1, 16), Fraction(3, 16), ...] [0.0, 0.5, 0.25, 0.75, 0.125, 0.375, 0.625, 0.875, 0.0625, 0.1875, ...] ''' yield 0 for k in zenos_dichotomy(): i = k.denominator # [1,2,4,8,16,...] for j in range(1, i, 2): yield Fraction(j, i) '''Can be used for the v in hsv to map linear values 0..1 to something that looks equidistant.''' bias = lambda x: (np.sqrt(x / 3) / Fraction(2, 3) + Fraction(1, 3)) / Fraction(6, 5) def genhsv(h): for s in [Fraction(6, 10)]: # optionally use range for v in [Fraction(8, 10), Fraction(5, 10)]: # could use range too yield (h, s, v) # use bias for v here if you use range genrgb = lambda x: colorsys.hsv_to_rgb(*x) flatten = itertools.chain.from_iterable gethsvs = lambda: flatten(itertools.imap(genhsv, getfracs())) getrgbs = lambda: itertools.imap(genrgb, gethsvs()) def genhtml(x): uint8tuple = itertools.imap(lambda y: int(y * 255), x) return 'rgb({},{},{})'.format(*uint8tuple) gethtmlcolors = lambda: map(genhtml, getrgbs()) if __name__ == '__main__': print(list(itertools.islice(gethtmlcolors(), 100))) -- A person is just about as big as the things that make him angry. From ilunderskov at gmail.com Mon Jan 14 05:36:22 2013 From: ilunderskov at gmail.com (Ian Lunderskov) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 22:36:22 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Honoring Aaron Swartz Message-ID: While I did not know Aaron, a good friend was close to him, and my friend just passed on a note that the WBC is planning on protesting his funeral ( https://twitter.com/WBCSays). I do not have the connections to this group to effectively organize, but as many of you seemed to respect him greatly, I was hoping this is something that ChiPy might consider doing a counter-protest of, and block them from getting near the bereaved. Just a thought. Ian Lunderskov -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From adam at adamforsyth.net Mon Jan 14 16:30:30 2013 From: adam at adamforsyth.net (Adam Forsyth) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 09:30:30 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] islice on Nested Iterators In-Reply-To: <50F3FC0F.1010100@uchicago.edu> References: <50F3FC0F.1010100@uchicago.edu> Message-ID: This seems like a great candidate for a follow up SO question. If you post it, send the link! Adam On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 6:37 AM, Oren Livne wrote: > Dear All, > > I'm trying to reuse the solution at the end of http://stackoverflow.com/** > questions/470690/how-to-**automatically-generate-n-**distinct-colorsfor Python 2.7. Unfortunately, the code below never returns, since even > though islice() requests the first 100 iterates, it seems that the > inner-map calls like > > gethsvs = lambda: flatten(itertools.imap(genhsv, getfracs())) > > force getting all iterates. Instead of passing the number of iterates to > all lambda functions, is there a way to make an islice() call at the main > code, as below, but making it get only the first 100 iterates in all inner > maps as well? > > Thanks, > Oren > > --------------------- > > import colorsys, itertools, numpy as np > from fractions import Fraction > > def zenos_dichotomy(): > ''' > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**1/2_%2B_1/4_%2B_1/8_%2B_1/16_%** > 2B_%C2%B7_%C2%B7_%C2%B7 > ''' > for k in itertools.count(): > yield Fraction(1, 2 ** k) > > def getfracs(): > ''' > [Fraction(0, 1), Fraction(1, 2), Fraction(1, 4), Fraction(3, 4), > Fraction(1, 8), Fraction(3, 8), Fraction(5, 8), Fraction(7, 8), Fraction(1, > 16), Fraction(3, 16), ...] > [0.0, 0.5, 0.25, 0.75, 0.125, 0.375, 0.625, 0.875, 0.0625, 0.1875, ...] > ''' > yield 0 > for k in zenos_dichotomy(): > i = k.denominator # [1,2,4,8,16,...] > for j in range(1, i, 2): > yield Fraction(j, i) > > '''Can be used for the v in hsv to map linear values 0..1 to something > that looks equidistant.''' > bias = lambda x: (np.sqrt(x / 3) / Fraction(2, 3) + Fraction(1, 3)) / > Fraction(6, 5) > > def genhsv(h): > for s in [Fraction(6, 10)]: # optionally use range > for v in [Fraction(8, 10), Fraction(5, 10)]: # could use range too > yield (h, s, v) # use bias for v here if you use range > > genrgb = lambda x: colorsys.hsv_to_rgb(*x) > flatten = itertools.chain.from_iterable > gethsvs = lambda: flatten(itertools.imap(genhsv, getfracs())) > getrgbs = lambda: itertools.imap(genrgb, gethsvs()) > > def genhtml(x): > uint8tuple = itertools.imap(lambda y: int(y * 255), x) > return 'rgb({},{},{})'.format(***uint8tuple) > > gethtmlcolors = lambda: map(genhtml, getrgbs()) > > if __name__ == '__main__': > print(list(itertools.islice(**gethtmlcolors(), 100))) > > -- > A person is just about as big as the things that make him angry. > > ______________________________**_________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brian at python.org Mon Jan 14 16:32:45 2013 From: brian at python.org (Brian Curtin) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:32:45 -0000 Subject: [Chicago] PyCon 2013 Schedule Announced! Message-ID: Hi ChiPy! It's that time of year again: the PyCon schedule has been announced and the rush to pick up tickets is on! https://us.pycon.org/2013/schedule/ was completed last week, and we've seen a sharp increase in sales as we approach 1,500 registrations. This year we're limiting the attendance to 2,500 for our second year in Santa Clara, CA. The conference runs from March 13-21. The 2013 edition of PyCon is going to be the biggest and best yet. We've added a sixth track of talks, giving you 114 presentations to view. Tutorials are better than ever, with an even wider range of topics than before. They keynotes are being given by an excellent group: Eben Upton, Jessica McKellar, Raymond Hettinger, and Guido van Rossum. Tickets are available now at https://us.pycon.org/2013/registration/. Student rates were cut in half for 2013 to $125, and individual registrations are only $350. Corporate tickets are currently $600. No matter what group you fall into, the value PyCon provides is incredible. We've got a ton of great events going on throughout the conference. There's a workshop for kids 12 and under to learn Python - https://us.pycon.org/2013/events/letslearnpython/. The successful PyData conference is running during the sprints - http://sv2013.eventbrite.com/. The Postgres community is running PyPgDay during the tutorials - https://us.pycon.org/2013/events/pgday/. We're once again doing the 5K run, and the open spaces and sprints will be a blast as well. We also have a few tricks up our sleeve that we'll update you on at http://pycon.blogspot.com/ and https://www.twitter.com/PyCon. If your organization is interested in sponsoring PyCon, check out our prospectus at https://us.pycon.org/2013/sponsors/prospectus/ and contact conference chairman Jesse Noller at jnoller at python.org with any questions. Thanks for your time, and we hope to see you at PyCon 2013! Jesse Noller PyCon Chairman jnoller at python.org Brian Curtin PyCon Publicity Coordinator brian at python.org From brianhray at gmail.com Mon Jan 14 16:39:44 2013 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 09:39:44 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] islice on Nested Iterators In-Reply-To: References: <50F3FC0F.1010100@uchicago.edu> Message-ID: Let Adam know first so he can maintain his ranking ;) On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Adam Forsyth wrote: > This seems like a great candidate for a follow up SO question. If you post > it, send the link! > > Adam > > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 6:37 AM, Oren Livne wrote: > >> Dear All, >> >> I'm trying to reuse the solution at the end of http://stackoverflow.com/* >> *questions/470690/how-to-**automatically-generate-n-**distinct-colorsfor Python 2.7. Unfortunately, the code below never returns, since even >> though islice() requests the first 100 iterates, it seems that the >> inner-map calls like >> >> gethsvs = lambda: flatten(itertools.imap(genhsv, getfracs())) >> >> force getting all iterates. Instead of passing the number of iterates to >> all lambda functions, is there a way to make an islice() call at the main >> code, as below, but making it get only the first 100 iterates in all inner >> maps as well? >> >> Thanks, >> Oren >> >> --------------------- >> >> import colorsys, itertools, numpy as np >> from fractions import Fraction >> >> def zenos_dichotomy(): >> ''' >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**1/2_%2B_1/4_%2B_1/8_%2B_1/16_%** >> 2B_%C2%B7_%C2%B7_%C2%B7 >> ''' >> for k in itertools.count(): >> yield Fraction(1, 2 ** k) >> >> def getfracs(): >> ''' >> [Fraction(0, 1), Fraction(1, 2), Fraction(1, 4), Fraction(3, 4), >> Fraction(1, 8), Fraction(3, 8), Fraction(5, 8), Fraction(7, 8), Fraction(1, >> 16), Fraction(3, 16), ...] >> [0.0, 0.5, 0.25, 0.75, 0.125, 0.375, 0.625, 0.875, 0.0625, 0.1875, >> ...] >> ''' >> yield 0 >> for k in zenos_dichotomy(): >> i = k.denominator # [1,2,4,8,16,...] >> for j in range(1, i, 2): >> yield Fraction(j, i) >> >> '''Can be used for the v in hsv to map linear values 0..1 to something >> that looks equidistant.''' >> bias = lambda x: (np.sqrt(x / 3) / Fraction(2, 3) + Fraction(1, 3)) / >> Fraction(6, 5) >> >> def genhsv(h): >> for s in [Fraction(6, 10)]: # optionally use range >> for v in [Fraction(8, 10), Fraction(5, 10)]: # could use range too >> yield (h, s, v) # use bias for v here if you use range >> >> genrgb = lambda x: colorsys.hsv_to_rgb(*x) >> flatten = itertools.chain.from_iterable >> gethsvs = lambda: flatten(itertools.imap(genhsv, getfracs())) >> getrgbs = lambda: itertools.imap(genrgb, gethsvs()) >> >> def genhtml(x): >> uint8tuple = itertools.imap(lambda y: int(y * 255), x) >> return 'rgb({},{},{})'.format(***uint8tuple) >> >> gethtmlcolors = lambda: map(genhtml, getrgbs()) >> >> if __name__ == '__main__': >> print(list(itertools.islice(**gethtmlcolors(), 100))) >> >> -- >> A person is just about as big as the things that make him angry. >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -- Brian Ray @brianray (773) 669-7717 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I do not have the connections to > this group to effectively organize, but as many of you seemed to respect > him greatly, I was hoping this is something that ChiPy might consider > doing a counter-protest of, and block them from getting near the bereaved. > > Just a thought. > > Ian Lunderskov > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago From livne at uchicago.edu Mon Jan 14 16:44:17 2013 From: livne at uchicago.edu (Oren Livne) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 09:44:17 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] islice on Nested Iterators In-Reply-To: References: <50F3FC0F.1010100@uchicago.edu> Message-ID: <50F427D1.4020300@uchicago.edu> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14321669/islice-on-nested-iterators :) On 1/14/2013 9:39 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > Let Adam know first so he can maintain his ranking ;) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I do not have the connections to > > this group to effectively organize, but as many of you seemed to respect > > him greatly, I was hoping this is something that ChiPy might consider > > doing a counter-protest of, and block them from getting near the > bereaved. > > > > Just a thought. > > > > Ian Lunderskov > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I do not have the connections to >> > this group to effectively organize, but as many of you seemed to respect >> > him greatly, I was hoping this is something that ChiPy might consider >> > doing a counter-protest of, and block them from getting near the >> bereaved. >> > >> > Just a thought. >> > >> > Ian Lunderskov >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Chicago mailing list >> > Chicago at python.org >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Search this hashtag and you will see. > > On Jan 14, 2013 9:45 AM, "Ian Lunderskov" wrote: > My thought had been more of trying to block them from the WBC folk, but the point is well taken. > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Jordan Bettis wrote: > Seems like a 'counter-protest' would make things even more circus-like > which wouldn't help the family very much. > > > On 01/13/2013 10:36 PM, Ian Lunderskov wrote: > > While I did not know Aaron, a good friend was close to him, and my > > friend just passed on a note that the WBC is planning on protesting his > > funeral (https://twitter.com/WBCSays). I do not have the connections to > > this group to effectively organize, but as many of you seemed to respect > > him greatly, I was hoping this is something that ChiPy might consider > > doing a counter-protest of, and block them from getting near the bereaved. > > > > Just a thought. > > > > Ian Lunderskov > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From adam at adamforsyth.net Mon Jan 14 16:59:22 2013 From: adam at adamforsyth.net (Adam Forsyth) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 09:59:22 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Honoring Aaron Swartz In-Reply-To: References: <50F4278B.1030403@hafd.org> Message-ID: http://www.rememberaaronsw.com/ ** *Aaron?s funeral will be held at 10am on on Tuesday, January 15 at Central Avenue Synagogue, 874 Central Avenue, Highland Park, Illinois 60035. Announcements about memorial services in other cities will be posted here in coming weeks.* On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Massimo DiPierro wrote: > Does anybody know the exact time and location of the funeral? > > Massimo > > On Jan 14, 2013, at 9:52 AM, Mark Johnson wrote: > > The counter-protest against WBC is already being organized as part of > #OpAngel. Search this hashtag and you will see. > On Jan 14, 2013 9:45 AM, "Ian Lunderskov" wrote: > >> My thought had been more of trying to block them from the WBC folk, but >> the point is well taken. >> >> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Jordan Bettis wrote: >> >>> Seems like a 'counter-protest' would make things even more circus-like >>> which wouldn't help the family very much. >>> >>> >>> On 01/13/2013 10:36 PM, Ian Lunderskov wrote: >>> > While I did not know Aaron, a good friend was close to him, and my >>> > friend just passed on a note that the WBC is planning on protesting his >>> > funeral (https://twitter.com/WBCSays). I do not have the connections >>> to >>> > this group to effectively organize, but as many of you seemed to >>> respect >>> > him greatly, I was hoping this is something that ChiPy might consider >>> > doing a counter-protest of, and block them from getting near the >>> bereaved. >>> > >>> > Just a thought. >>> > >>> > Ian Lunderskov >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Chicago mailing list >>> > Chicago at python.org >>> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brianhray at gmail.com Mon Jan 14 17:43:36 2013 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 10:43:36 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Special Aaron Swartz dedicated meeting with cocktail reception Message-ID: It is official... We are planning a special pre-meeting cocktail reception next month (feb 14) at Braintree in memory of our friend who loved ChiPy for years, Aaron Swartz. Everyone with kind thoughts from the Tech/Python/Activist community is encourage to attend. It will be acceptable to stop in (with your v-day dates) and say hello and be on your way. Otherwise, stay for the best meeting ever that starts at 7pm. For our regular meeting, we are looking for great presentations on things like web.py! Propose talks here on the ChiPy mailing list. RSVP Here to remember Aaron: http://chipy.org PS Aaron's family friends needs some positive right now and this is our job ChiPy. 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Announcements about memorial services in other cities will be posted > here in coming weeks.* > > > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Massimo DiPierro > wrote: > >> Does anybody know the exact time and location of the funeral? >> >> Massimo >> >> On Jan 14, 2013, at 9:52 AM, Mark Johnson wrote: >> >> The counter-protest against WBC is already being organized as part of >> #OpAngel. Search this hashtag and you will see. >> On Jan 14, 2013 9:45 AM, "Ian Lunderskov" wrote: >> >>> My thought had been more of trying to block them from the WBC folk, but >>> the point is well taken. >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Jordan Bettis wrote: >>> >>>> Seems like a 'counter-protest' would make things even more circus-like >>>> which wouldn't help the family very much. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 01/13/2013 10:36 PM, Ian Lunderskov wrote: >>>> > While I did not know Aaron, a good friend was close to him, and my >>>> > friend just passed on a note that the WBC is planning on protesting >>>> his >>>> > funeral (https://twitter.com/WBCSays). I do not have the connections >>>> to >>>> > this group to effectively organize, but as many of you seemed to >>>> respect >>>> > him greatly, I was hoping this is something that ChiPy might consider >>>> > doing a counter-protest of, and block them from getting near the >>>> bereaved. >>>> > >>>> > Just a thought. >>>> > >>>> > Ian Lunderskov >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Chicago mailing list >>>> > Chicago at python.org >>>> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chicago mailing list >>>> Chicago at python.org >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -- Sunah Suh Software Engineer @ Etsy Full-Stack Web Developer, Pythonista, Jill-of-all-trades Intermittent Winner in Life Website: sunahsuh.com | GChat: sunah at sunahsuh.com Check my current email load: http://courteous.ly/d7mWb4 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mdipierro at cs.depaul.edu Mon Jan 14 18:15:07 2013 From: mdipierro at cs.depaul.edu (Massimo DiPierro) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:15:07 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Honoring Aaron Swartz In-Reply-To: References: <50F4278B.1030403@hafd.org> Message-ID: <7F333E57-DC69-4E2C-A441-E053B8922196@cs.depaul.edu> I am going. I can drive somebody if needed. I can leave Oak Park at 8:30 and I will be driving downtown when it is over. Massimo On Jan 14, 2013, at 10:49 AM, Sunah Suh wrote: > I've been considering attending the funeral -- anyone else? > > -Sunah > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Adam Forsyth wrote: > http://www.rememberaaronsw.com/ > > Aaron?s funeral will be held at 10am on on Tuesday, January 15 at Central Avenue Synagogue, 874 Central Avenue, Highland Park, Illinois 60035. Announcements about memorial services in other cities will be posted here in coming weeks. > > > > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Massimo DiPierro wrote: > Does anybody know the exact time and location of the funeral? > > Massimo > > On Jan 14, 2013, at 9:52 AM, Mark Johnson wrote: > >> The counter-protest against WBC is already being organized as part of #OpAngel. Search this hashtag and you will see. >> >> On Jan 14, 2013 9:45 AM, "Ian Lunderskov" wrote: >> My thought had been more of trying to block them from the WBC folk, but the point is well taken. >> >> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Jordan Bettis wrote: >> Seems like a 'counter-protest' would make things even more circus-like >> which wouldn't help the family very much. >> >> >> On 01/13/2013 10:36 PM, Ian Lunderskov wrote: >> > While I did not know Aaron, a good friend was close to him, and my >> > friend just passed on a note that the WBC is planning on protesting his >> > funeral (https://twitter.com/WBCSays). I do not have the connections to >> > this group to effectively organize, but as many of you seemed to respect >> > him greatly, I was hoping this is something that ChiPy might consider >> > doing a counter-protest of, and block them from getting near the bereaved. >> > >> > Just a thought. >> > >> > Ian Lunderskov >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Chicago mailing list >> > Chicago at python.org >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > -- > Sunah Suh > Software Engineer @ Etsy > Full-Stack Web Developer, Pythonista, Jill-of-all-trades > Intermittent Winner in Life > Website: sunahsuh.com | GChat: sunah at sunahsuh.com > Check my current email load: http://courteous.ly/d7mWb4 > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ken at stox.org Mon Jan 14 18:19:55 2013 From: ken at stox.org (Kenneth Stox) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:19:55 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Honoring Aaron Swartz In-Reply-To: References: <50F4278B.1030403@hafd.org> Message-ID: <1358183995.11186.1.camel@cerebrus> I am/was, I am on the fence. I am concerned that it is going to turn into a zoo, and I do not want to contribute to that. On Mon, 2013-01-14 at 10:49 -0600, Sunah Suh wrote: > I've been considering attending the funeral -- anyone else? > > > -Sunah > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Adam Forsyth > wrote: > http://www.rememberaaronsw.com/ > > > > Aaron?s funeral will be held at 10am on on Tuesday, January 15 > at Central Avenue Synagogue, 874 Central Avenue, Highland > Park, Illinois 60035. Announcements about memorial services in > other cities will be posted here in coming weeks. > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Massimo DiPierro > wrote: > Does anybody know the exact time and location of the > funeral? > > > Massimo > > On Jan 14, 2013, at 9:52 AM, Mark Johnson wrote: > > > The counter-protest against WBC is already being > > organized as part of #OpAngel. Search this hashtag > > and you will see. > > > > On Jan 14, 2013 9:45 AM, "Ian Lunderskov" > > wrote: > > My thought had been more of trying to block > > them from the WBC folk, but the point is > > well taken. > > > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Jordan > > Bettis wrote: > > Seems like a 'counter-protest' would > > make things even more circus-like > > which wouldn't help the family very > > much. > > > > > > On 01/13/2013 10:36 PM, Ian > > Lunderskov wrote: > > > While I did not know Aaron, a good > > friend was close to him, and my > > > friend just passed on a note that > > the WBC is planning on protesting > > his > > > funeral > > (https://twitter.com/WBCSays). I do > > not have the connections to > > > this group to effectively > > organize, but as many of you seemed > > to respect > > > him greatly, I was hoping this is > > something that ChiPy might consider > > > doing a counter-protest of, and > > block them from getting near the > > bereaved. > > > > > > Just a thought. > > > > > > Ian Lunderskov > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Chicago mailing list > > > Chicago at python.org > > > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > > -- > Sunah Suh > Software Engineer @ Etsy > Full-Stack Web Developer, Pythonista, Jill-of-all-trades > Intermittent Winner in Life > Website: sunahsuh.com | GChat: sunah at sunahsuh.com > Check my current email load: http://courteous.ly/d7mWb4 > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago From kumar.mcmillan at gmail.com Mon Jan 14 18:35:46 2013 From: kumar.mcmillan at gmail.com (Kumar McMillan) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:35:46 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Honoring Aaron Swartz In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 10:36 PM, Ian Lunderskov wrote: > While I did not know Aaron, a good friend was close to him, and my friend > just passed on a note that the WBC is planning on protesting his funeral ( > https://twitter.com/WBCSays). In case it's not obvious, I'd advise against retweeting or publicizing WBC's stance. They are idiots. They are bottom feeders that thrive on negative attention so rather than add to their cheap fame IMHO it's more effective to ignore them. > I do not have the connections to this group to effectively organize, but > as many of you seemed to respect him greatly, I was hoping this is > something that ChiPy might consider doing a counter-protest of, and block > them from getting near the bereaved. > > Just a thought. > > Ian Lunderskov > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From danieltpeters at gmail.com Mon Jan 14 20:30:48 2013 From: danieltpeters at gmail.com (Daniel Peters) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:30:48 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Honoring Aaron Swartz In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'll go as well. And I'd be *happy* to counter protest the WBC. Kumar is right, don't link to them, don't give them oxygen. At the funeral for the victims of Newton the counter WBC protest simply kept them at bay, hundreds of feet from the actual funeral. On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Kumar McMillan wrote: > > > > On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 10:36 PM, Ian Lunderskov wrote: > >> While I did not know Aaron, a good friend was close to him, and my friend >> just passed on a note that the WBC is planning on protesting his funeral ( >> https://twitter.com/WBCSays). > > > In case it's not obvious, I'd advise against retweeting or publicizing > WBC's stance. They are idiots. They are bottom feeders that thrive on > negative attention so rather than add to their cheap fame IMHO it's more > effective to ignore them. > > > >> I do not have the connections to this group to effectively organize, but >> as many of you seemed to respect him greatly, I was hoping this is >> something that ChiPy might consider doing a counter-protest of, and block >> them from getting near the bereaved. >> >> Just a thought. >> >> Ian Lunderskov >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brianhray at gmail.com Mon Jan 14 20:43:03 2013 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:43:03 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Honoring Aaron Swartz In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If anyone interacted with Aaron, even he was younger, please send me a private email. On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Daniel Peters wrote: > I'll go as well. And I'd be *happy* to counter protest the WBC. Kumar > is right, don't link to them, don't give them oxygen. At the funeral for > the victims of Newton the counter WBC protest simply kept them at bay, > hundreds of feet from the actual funeral. > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Kumar McMillan > wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 10:36 PM, Ian Lunderskov wrote: >> >>> While I did not know Aaron, a good friend was close to him, and my >>> friend just passed on a note that the WBC is planning on protesting his >>> funeral (https://twitter.com/WBCSays). >> >> >> In case it's not obvious, I'd advise against retweeting or publicizing >> WBC's stance. They are idiots. They are bottom feeders that thrive on >> negative attention so rather than add to their cheap fame IMHO it's more >> effective to ignore them. >> >> >> >>> I do not have the connections to this group to effectively organize, but >>> as many of you seemed to respect him greatly, I was hoping this is >>> something that ChiPy might consider doing a counter-protest of, and block >>> them from getting near the bereaved. >>> >>> Just a thought. >>> >>> Ian Lunderskov >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -- Brian Ray @brianray (773) 669-7717 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ken at stox.org Mon Jan 14 20:36:58 2013 From: ken at stox.org (Kenneth Stox) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:36:58 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Public trans to Aaron's funeral Message-ID: <1358192218.11186.6.camel@cerebrus> FYI, it appears that the funeral is a modest walk from the Highland Park Metra station. This would be a good alternative to driving, as I suspect parking will be tight. -Ken From shekay at pobox.com Mon Jan 14 20:54:59 2013 From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:54:59 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Honoring Aaron Swartz In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I am not going to go unless people with experience handling with handling this type of thing call for help. Someone please post here if it turns out that people are needed to help create a buffer to keep the WBC people far away. On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Daniel Peters wrote: > I'll go as well. And I'd be happy to counter protest the WBC. Kumar is > right, don't link to them, don't give them oxygen. At the funeral for the > victims of Newton the counter WBC protest simply kept them at bay, hundreds > of feet from the actual funeral. > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Kumar McMillan > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 10:36 PM, Ian Lunderskov >> wrote: >>> >>> While I did not know Aaron, a good friend was close to him, and my friend >>> just passed on a note that the WBC is planning on protesting his funeral >>> (https://twitter.com/WBCSays). >> >> >> In case it's not obvious, I'd advise against retweeting or publicizing >> WBC's stance. They are idiots. They are bottom feeders that thrive on >> negative attention so rather than add to their cheap fame IMHO it's more >> effective to ignore them. >> >> >>> >>> I do not have the connections to this group to effectively organize, but >>> as many of you seemed to respect him greatly, I was hoping this is something >>> that ChiPy might consider doing a counter-protest of, and block them from >>> getting near the bereaved. >>> >>> Just a thought. >>> >>> Ian Lunderskov >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- sheila From danieltpeters at gmail.com Mon Jan 14 20:56:00 2013 From: danieltpeters at gmail.com (Daniel Peters) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:56:00 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Honoring Aaron Swartz In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: fwiw the #opAngel hashtag is also being used for .....less than illustrious purposes. Like attacking a bunch of .gov sites. So......fuck that. If anyone is going and wants to stand out in the cold *quietly*, keep the human trash at bay, ping me off list. On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > If anyone interacted with Aaron, even he was younger, please send me a > private email. > > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Daniel Peters wrote: > >> I'll go as well. And I'd be *happy* to counter protest the WBC. Kumar >> is right, don't link to them, don't give them oxygen. At the funeral for >> the victims of Newton the counter WBC protest simply kept them at bay, >> hundreds of feet from the actual funeral. >> >> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Kumar McMillan < >> kumar.mcmillan at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 10:36 PM, Ian Lunderskov wrote: >>> >>>> While I did not know Aaron, a good friend was close to him, and my >>>> friend just passed on a note that the WBC is planning on protesting his >>>> funeral (https://twitter.com/WBCSays). >>> >>> >>> In case it's not obvious, I'd advise against retweeting or publicizing >>> WBC's stance. They are idiots. They are bottom feeders that thrive on >>> negative attention so rather than add to their cheap fame IMHO it's more >>> effective to ignore them. >>> >>> >>> >>>> I do not have the connections to this group to effectively organize, >>>> but as many of you seemed to respect him greatly, I was hoping this is >>>> something that ChiPy might consider doing a counter-protest of, and block >>>> them from getting near the bereaved. >>>> >>>> Just a thought. >>>> >>>> Ian Lunderskov >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chicago mailing list >>>> Chicago at python.org >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hundredpercentjuice at gmail.com Mon Jan 14 22:39:36 2013 From: hundredpercentjuice at gmail.com (JS Irick) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:39:36 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Honoring Aaron Swartz In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: "I am not going to go unless people with experience handling with handling this type of thing call for help. " +1 I am disgusted with the way this brilliant young man was treated in life; I could not bear to be part of dishonoring him and his family in their grief. On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:54 PM, sheila miguez wrote: > I am not going to go unless people with experience handling with > handling this type of thing call for help. Someone please post here > if it turns out that people are needed to help create a buffer to keep > the WBC people far away. > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Daniel Peters > wrote: > > I'll go as well. And I'd be happy to counter protest the WBC. Kumar is > > right, don't link to them, don't give them oxygen. At the funeral for > the > > victims of Newton the counter WBC protest simply kept them at bay, > hundreds > > of feet from the actual funeral. > > > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Kumar McMillan < > kumar.mcmillan at gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 10:36 PM, Ian Lunderskov > > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> While I did not know Aaron, a good friend was close to him, and my > friend > >>> just passed on a note that the WBC is planning on protesting his > funeral > >>> (https://twitter.com/WBCSays). > >> > >> > >> In case it's not obvious, I'd advise against retweeting or publicizing > >> WBC's stance. They are idiots. They are bottom feeders that thrive on > >> negative attention so rather than add to their cheap fame IMHO it's more > >> effective to ignore them. > >> > >> > >>> > >>> I do not have the connections to this group to effectively organize, > but > >>> as many of you seemed to respect him greatly, I was hoping this is > something > >>> that ChiPy might consider doing a counter-protest of, and block them > from > >>> getting near the bereaved. > >>> > >>> Just a thought. > >>> > >>> Ian Lunderskov > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Chicago mailing list > >>> Chicago at python.org > >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >>> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Chicago mailing list > >> Chicago at python.org > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > > -- > sheila > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- ==== JS Irick 312-307-8904 Consultant: truqua.com Coach: atlascrossfit.com Programmer: juicetux.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If you need to get community input on availability, I recommend using something like http://doodle.com/ On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > March meeting conflicts with PyCon. Usually, I am very stubborn on ever > moving the date. However, given this is enough time to plan, how do others > feel about this? If we do move I am going to be stubborn about that as well > and say it will be the 3rd Thursday. > > I did book ITA for March, but that could change. > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > From mdipierro at cs.depaul.edu Mon Jan 14 22:58:26 2013 From: mdipierro at cs.depaul.edu (Massimo DiPierro) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:58:26 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Honoring Aaron Swartz In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: For the record. I am going, but I am not going to protest or to counter protest. I am going to attend a funeral. I did no know him personally but he has given a lot to the community and I sympathize with his ideals. I think others feel like me. Massimo On Jan 14, 2013, at 3:39 PM, JS Irick wrote: > "I am not going to go unless people with experience handling with > handling this type of thing call for help. " > > +1 > > I am disgusted with the way this brilliant young man was treated in life; I could not bear to be part of dishonoring him and his family in their grief. > > > > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:54 PM, sheila miguez wrote: > I am not going to go unless people with experience handling with > handling this type of thing call for help. Someone please post here > if it turns out that people are needed to help create a buffer to keep > the WBC people far away. > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Daniel Peters wrote: > > I'll go as well. And I'd be happy to counter protest the WBC. Kumar is > > right, don't link to them, don't give them oxygen. At the funeral for the > > victims of Newton the counter WBC protest simply kept them at bay, hundreds > > of feet from the actual funeral. > > > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Kumar McMillan > > wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 10:36 PM, Ian Lunderskov > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> While I did not know Aaron, a good friend was close to him, and my friend > >>> just passed on a note that the WBC is planning on protesting his funeral > >>> (https://twitter.com/WBCSays). > >> > >> > >> In case it's not obvious, I'd advise against retweeting or publicizing > >> WBC's stance. They are idiots. They are bottom feeders that thrive on > >> negative attention so rather than add to their cheap fame IMHO it's more > >> effective to ignore them. > >> > >> > >>> > >>> I do not have the connections to this group to effectively organize, but > >>> as many of you seemed to respect him greatly, I was hoping this is something > >>> that ChiPy might consider doing a counter-protest of, and block them from > >>> getting near the bereaved. > >>> > >>> Just a thought. > >>> > >>> Ian Lunderskov > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Chicago mailing list > >>> Chicago at python.org > >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >>> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Chicago mailing list > >> Chicago at python.org > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > > -- > sheila > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > -- > ==== > JS Irick > 312-307-8904 > Consultant: truqua.com > Coach: atlascrossfit.com > Programmer: juicetux.com > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ilunderskov at gmail.com Mon Jan 14 23:00:02 2013 From: ilunderskov at gmail.com (Ian Lunderskov) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:00:02 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Honoring Aaron Swartz In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: As I feel that my original message about wishing to block the WBC framed the discussion of whether to attend the funeral or not, with messages about whether a "counter-protest" was appropriate or not (a poor choice of words on my part), I would also point out that to go in quiet support of the family is an option, regardless of whether you would be interested in attempting to block any protesters that arrive. In fact, given the fact that the WBC has in the past failed to show, it may be all to be done tomorrow. Also, at no point would I wish that anything be done to dishonor Aaron or his family; I just think support best given in person, when possible. Ian On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 3:39 PM, JS Irick wrote: > "I am not going to go unless people with experience handling with > handling this type of thing call for help. " > > +1 > > I am disgusted with the way this brilliant young man was treated in life; > I could not bear to be part of dishonoring him and his family in their > grief. > > > > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:54 PM, sheila miguez wrote: > >> I am not going to go unless people with experience handling with >> handling this type of thing call for help. Someone please post here >> if it turns out that people are needed to help create a buffer to keep >> the WBC people far away. >> >> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Daniel Peters >> wrote: >> > I'll go as well. And I'd be happy to counter protest the WBC. Kumar is >> > right, don't link to them, don't give them oxygen. At the funeral for >> the >> > victims of Newton the counter WBC protest simply kept them at bay, >> hundreds >> > of feet from the actual funeral. >> > >> > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Kumar McMillan < >> kumar.mcmillan at gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 10:36 PM, Ian Lunderskov < >> ilunderskov at gmail.com> >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> While I did not know Aaron, a good friend was close to him, and my >> friend >> >>> just passed on a note that the WBC is planning on protesting his >> funeral >> >>> (https://twitter.com/WBCSays). >> >> >> >> >> >> In case it's not obvious, I'd advise against retweeting or publicizing >> >> WBC's stance. They are idiots. They are bottom feeders that thrive on >> >> negative attention so rather than add to their cheap fame IMHO it's >> more >> >> effective to ignore them. >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>> I do not have the connections to this group to effectively organize, >> but >> >>> as many of you seemed to respect him greatly, I was hoping this is >> something >> >>> that ChiPy might consider doing a counter-protest of, and block them >> from >> >>> getting near the bereaved. >> >>> >> >>> Just a thought. >> >>> >> >>> Ian Lunderskov >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Chicago mailing list >> >>> Chicago at python.org >> >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Chicago mailing list >> >> Chicago at python.org >> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Chicago mailing list >> > Chicago at python.org >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> sheila >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > > > -- > ==== > JS Irick > 312-307-8904 > Consultant: truqua.com > Coach: atlascrossfit.com > Programmer: juicetux.com > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I know that each person on this list will grieve in their own way, and support Aaron and each other through the small filaments that make us part of each others' lives. -js On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Ian Lunderskov wrote: > As I feel that my original message about wishing to block the WBC framed > the discussion of whether to attend the funeral or not, with messages about > whether a "counter-protest" was appropriate or not (a poor choice of words > on my part), I would also point out that to go in quiet support of the > family is an option, regardless of whether you would be interested in > attempting to block any protesters that arrive. In fact, given the fact > that the WBC has in the past failed to show, it may be all to be done > tomorrow. > > Also, at no point would I wish that anything be done to dishonor Aaron or > his family; I just think support best given in person, when possible. > > Ian > > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 3:39 PM, JS Irick wrote: > >> "I am not going to go unless people with experience handling with >> handling this type of thing call for help. " >> >> +1 >> >> I am disgusted with the way this brilliant young man was treated in life; >> I could not bear to be part of dishonoring him and his family in their >> grief. >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:54 PM, sheila miguez wrote: >> >>> I am not going to go unless people with experience handling with >>> handling this type of thing call for help. Someone please post here >>> if it turns out that people are needed to help create a buffer to keep >>> the WBC people far away. >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Daniel Peters >>> wrote: >>> > I'll go as well. And I'd be happy to counter protest the WBC. Kumar >>> is >>> > right, don't link to them, don't give them oxygen. At the funeral for >>> the >>> > victims of Newton the counter WBC protest simply kept them at bay, >>> hundreds >>> > of feet from the actual funeral. >>> > >>> > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Kumar McMillan < >>> kumar.mcmillan at gmail.com> >>> > wrote: >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 10:36 PM, Ian Lunderskov < >>> ilunderskov at gmail.com> >>> >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> While I did not know Aaron, a good friend was close to him, and my >>> friend >>> >>> just passed on a note that the WBC is planning on protesting his >>> funeral >>> >>> (https://twitter.com/WBCSays). >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> In case it's not obvious, I'd advise against retweeting or publicizing >>> >> WBC's stance. They are idiots. They are bottom feeders that thrive on >>> >> negative attention so rather than add to their cheap fame IMHO it's >>> more >>> >> effective to ignore them. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> I do not have the connections to this group to effectively organize, >>> but >>> >>> as many of you seemed to respect him greatly, I was hoping this is >>> something >>> >>> that ChiPy might consider doing a counter-protest of, and block them >>> from >>> >>> getting near the bereaved. >>> >>> >>> >>> Just a thought. >>> >>> >>> >>> Ian Lunderskov >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Chicago mailing list >>> >>> Chicago at python.org >>> >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Chicago mailing list >>> >> Chicago at python.org >>> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Chicago mailing list >>> > Chicago at python.org >>> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> sheila >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> ==== >> JS Irick >> 312-307-8904 >> Consultant: truqua.com >> Coach: atlascrossfit.com >> Programmer: juicetux.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -- ==== JS Irick 312-307-8904 Consultant: truqua.com Coach: atlascrossfit.com Programmer: juicetux.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Really try and avoid any mention with the news folks (if you are interviewed) about WBC. It's about Aaron, and we need to provide solidarity and love and warmth to his family only! Unfortunately, it is very personal and painful that someone will yell racial and hateful epithets at you while grieving for the loss of someone, so if a reaction is provoked, please know they are hoping for that and will gladly accept it. They are monsters, but smart monsters with good lawyers. I have reached out to the police chief of Highland Park to see if they will be present, and am waiting for a response. In the meantime, may Aaron's memory be for a blessing and I wish we did not have to gather for such a sad occassion. Regards, JP -- JP Bader Principal Zavteq, Inc. @lordB8r | jp at zavteq.com 608.692.2468 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From danieltpeters at gmail.com Mon Jan 14 23:43:15 2013 From: danieltpeters at gmail.com (Daniel Peters) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:43:15 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Swartz Funeral In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey JP, I just tried to send you the organizing email I put together. *You are a good man*. Thank you so much for taking the time to outline your experiences with these people. I haven't dealt with them at all, and knowing things like this is ......crucial. On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 4:34 PM, JP Bader wrote: > Hi ChiPy, > > I am hoping to attend the funeral, but just wanted to add some words of > caution about dealing with the WBC, if you so encounter them. My > experience comes from my synagogue here in Chicago being protested by WBC > 2x over the last 2 years. We successfully dealt with them by not giving > them anything to make news-worthy (about the best we can do). > > First and foremost, do not let any news reporters or media outlets record > statements from you slandering them or interacting with them, or giving > statements about them. If they (WBC) do find out about this, they will > latch on, and possibly use that in any imaginable lawsuit. They are coming > specifically to get a rise out of attendees and hope to gather news footage > of any reaction. The best response is to give them nothing at all. Really > try and avoid any mention with the news folks (if you are interviewed) > about WBC. It's about Aaron, and we need to provide solidarity and love > and warmth to his family only! > > Unfortunately, it is very personal and painful that someone will yell > racial and hateful epithets at you while grieving for the loss of someone, > so if a reaction is provoked, please know they are hoping for that and will > gladly accept it. They are monsters, but smart monsters with good lawyers. > > I have reached out to the police chief of Highland Park to see if they > will be present, and am waiting for a response. In the meantime, may > Aaron's memory be for a blessing and I wish we did not have to gather for > such a sad occassion. > > Regards, > > JP > > -- > JP Bader > Principal > Zavteq, Inc. > @lordB8r | jp at zavteq.com > 608.692.2468 > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We successfully dealt with them by not giving them anything to make news-worthy (about the best we can do). > > First and foremost, do not let any news reporters or media outlets record statements from you slandering them or interacting with them, or giving statements about them. If they (WBC) do find out about this, they will latch on, and possibly use that in any imaginable lawsuit. They are coming specifically to get a rise out of attendees and hope to gather news footage of any reaction. The best response is to give them nothing at all. Really try and avoid any mention with the news folks (if you are interviewed) about WBC. It's about Aaron, and we need to provide solidarity and love and warmth to his family only! > > Unfortunately, it is very personal and painful that someone will yell racial and hateful epithets at you while grieving for the loss of someone, so if a reaction is provoked, please know they are hoping for that and will gladly accept it. They are monsters, but smart monsters with good lawyers. > > I have reached out to the police chief of Highland Park to see if they will be present, and am waiting for a response. In the meantime, may Aaron's memory be for a blessing and I wish we did not have to gather for such a sad occassion. > > Regards, > > JP > > -- > JP Bader > Principal > Zavteq, Inc. > @lordB8r | jp at zavteq.com > 608.692.2468 > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We successfully dealt with them by not giving them anything to make news-worthy (about the best we can do). First and foremost, do not let any news reporters or media outlets record statements from you slandering them or interacting with them, or giving statements about them. If they (WBC) do find out about this, they will latch on, and possibly use that in any imaginable lawsuit. They are coming specifically to get a rise out of attendees and hope to gather news footage of any reaction. The best response is to give them nothing at all. Really try and avoid any mention with the news folks (if you are interviewed) about WBC. It's about Aaron, and we need to provide solidarity and love and warmth to his family only! Unfortunately, it is very personal and painful that someone will yell racial and hateful epithets at you while grieving for the loss of someone, so if a reaction is provoked, please know they are hoping for that and will gladly accept it. They are monsters, but smart monsters with good lawyers. I have reached out to the police chief of Highland Park to see if they will be present, and am waiting for a response. In the meantime, may Aaron's memory be for a blessing and I wish we did not have to gather for such a sad occassion. Regards, JP -- JP Bader Principal Zavteq, Inc. @lordB8r | jp at zavteq.com 608.692.2468 (The following links were included with this email:) mailto:paul at paulmayassociates.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/paulmayassociates http://twitter.com/paulmayassoc http://www.facebook.com/paulmayassociates http://www.paulmayassociates.com/ mailto:jp at zavteq.com (The following links were included with this email:) mailto:paul at paulmayassociates.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/paulmayassociates http://twitter.com/paulmayassoc http://www.facebook.com/paulmayassociates http://www.paulmayassociates.com/ mailto:jp at zavteq.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From adrian at holovaty.com Tue Jan 15 00:16:43 2013 From: adrian at holovaty.com (Adrian Holovaty) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:16:43 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Swartz Funeral In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: JP -- thanks for this. Adrian On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 4:34 PM, JP Bader wrote: > Hi ChiPy, > > I am hoping to attend the funeral, but just wanted to add some words of > caution about dealing with the WBC, if you so encounter them. My experience > comes from my synagogue here in Chicago being protested by WBC 2x over the > last 2 years. We successfully dealt with them by not giving them anything > to make news-worthy (about the best we can do). > > First and foremost, do not let any news reporters or media outlets record > statements from you slandering them or interacting with them, or giving > statements about them. If they (WBC) do find out about this, they will > latch on, and possibly use that in any imaginable lawsuit. They are coming > specifically to get a rise out of attendees and hope to gather news footage > of any reaction. The best response is to give them nothing at all. Really > try and avoid any mention with the news folks (if you are interviewed) about > WBC. It's about Aaron, and we need to provide solidarity and love and > warmth to his family only! > > Unfortunately, it is very personal and painful that someone will yell racial > and hateful epithets at you while grieving for the loss of someone, so if a > reaction is provoked, please know they are hoping for that and will gladly > accept it. They are monsters, but smart monsters with good lawyers. > > I have reached out to the police chief of Highland Park to see if they will > be present, and am waiting for a response. In the meantime, may Aaron's > memory be for a blessing and I wish we did not have to gather for such a sad > occassion. > > Regards, > > JP > > -- > JP Bader > Principal > Zavteq, Inc. > @lordB8r | jp at zavteq.com > 608.692.2468 > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > From jp at zavteq.com Tue Jan 15 00:26:10 2013 From: jp at zavteq.com (JP Bader) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:26:10 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Swartz Funeral In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sorry for the span, just another follow up: I just spoke with HP PD and they are aware that WBC will be there. I do not know what they will do to ensure physical safety, but will assume that a few squad cars and officers will be there to make sure that people aren't in the streets and do not trespass private property (i.e. there will be police present). Since I do not know the lay of the land, I cannot give any advice to where to meetup. Daniel Peters is coordinating off-list, so please ping him for more details if you'd like to meetup up there. Again, my heart goes out to the Swartz family and their communities. JP p.s. If you do come to hang out outside, please make a poster or some kind of sign showing the Swartz' that Aaron is loved, and our hearts go to them. We are coming together because of someone we believed in is now gone...his family needs to know that. May we be stronger than the evil around us. On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 4:34 PM, JP Bader wrote: > > Hi ChiPy, > > > > I am hoping to attend the funeral, but just wanted to add some words of > > caution about dealing with the WBC, if you so encounter them. My > experience > > comes from my synagogue here in Chicago being protested by WBC 2x over > the > > last 2 years. We successfully dealt with them by not giving them > anything > > to make news-worthy (about the best we can do). > > > > First and foremost, do not let any news reporters or media outlets record > > statements from you slandering them or interacting with them, or giving > > statements about them. If they (WBC) do find out about this, they will > > latch on, and possibly use that in any imaginable lawsuit. They are > coming > > specifically to get a rise out of attendees and hope to gather news > footage > > of any reaction. The best response is to give them nothing at all. > Really > > try and avoid any mention with the news folks (if you are interviewed) > about > > WBC. It's about Aaron, and we need to provide solidarity and love and > > warmth to his family only! > > > > Unfortunately, it is very personal and painful that someone will yell > racial > > and hateful epithets at you while grieving for the loss of someone, so > if a > > reaction is provoked, please know they are hoping for that and will > gladly > > accept it. They are monsters, but smart monsters with good lawyers. > > > > I have reached out to the police chief of Highland Park to see if they > will > > be present, and am waiting for a response. 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This would be a good alternative to driving, as I suspect >> parking will be tight. >> >> -Ken >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > From ken at stox.org Tue Jan 15 02:35:56 2013 From: ken at stox.org (Kenneth Stox) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:35:56 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Public trans to Aaron's funeral In-Reply-To: References: <1358192218.11186.6.camel@cerebrus> Message-ID: <1358213756.15979.6.camel@cerebrus> Union Pacific North Line. There is a train that departs Olgivy at 7:52AM and arrives at 8:44AM. The next train departs Olgivy at 8:35AM, and arrives at 9:26AM. This is a local train, stopping at all stops in between. For anyone arriving early, there is a Walker Bros Pancake House at 620 Central Avenue for coffee and/or breakfast. -Ken On Mon, 2013-01-14 at 18:59 -0600, Randy Baxley wrote: > Which line is that? > > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Kenneth Stox wrote: > FYI, it appears that the funeral is a modest walk from the > Highland Park > Metra station. This would be a good alternative to driving, as > I suspect > parking will be tight. > > -Ken > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago From livne at uchicago.edu Tue Jan 15 03:37:58 2013 From: livne at uchicago.edu (Oren Livne) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:37:58 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Closest Index In-Reply-To: References: <50E7538D.6040509@uchicago.edu> <50E826E4.3010502@uchicago.edu> <50E8463D.7070907@uchicago.edu> <50E97CD2.4030503@uchicago.edu> Message-ID: <50F4C106.5000203@uchicago.edu> Just to follow up on this again in case it got lost in other threads. I have the OK from my bosses to discuss all of our software work and would be delighted to participate in a sprint (what is a sprint, actually?) or a workshop. Thank you so much and let me know what the next steps should be. Oren On 1/7/2013 10:55 AM, sheila miguez wrote: > > Would you be interested in a sprint or workshop? > > There is another thread I started asking whether people would be > interested in a pandas/pydata/etc sprint. I know a couple of the > people who ran one in NYC recently. > > We could apply for a sprint or PSF O&E grant to cover lunch and > perhaps travel for someone to lead a sprint (the NYC group had a > pandas contributor there). > > Perhaps you aren't interested in contributing to a library but instead > would like guidance on using them in general. Maybe in that case chipy > folk could adapt material targeted towards scientific programmers for > a workshop. The software-carpentry.org > group provides their material under a permissive license. From an > naive perspective, perhaps it doesn't make sense to have a general > workshop vs. tailored. e.g. for computational biologists? > > anyway, I think it would be fun in general for chipy to have some > hands-on events in addition to the talking format. > > On Jan 6, 2013 7:54 AM, "Oren Livne" > wrote: > > > > Hi Brian, > > > > I would love to! Unfortunately I can never attend on Thursday nights > due to another obligation. If I ever get the chance I'll let you know. > In fact I think the discussion should be expanded more generally to > python problems arising in genetic applications. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -- A person is just about as big as the things that make him angry. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > ** Please note this is the special NORTH suburbs Python User Group not the > Loop group, you are welcome to come ** > > It happens a week from this Thursday. > > Did I hear Zoro Tools could host at their new location? > > Any topics? > > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -- Naomi Ceder https://plus.google.com/u/0/111396744045017339164/about -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brianhray at gmail.com Tue Jan 15 18:28:46 2013 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:28:46 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] ChiPy **North** Suburbs edition: January 24th In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Great! Could you give me your new address and directions on getting there? On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Naomi Ceder wrote: > Zoro Tools will be delighted to host. > > > > On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > >> ** Please note this is the special NORTH suburbs Python User Group not >> the Loop group, you are welcome to come ** >> >> It happens a week from this Thursday. >> >> Did I hear Zoro Tools could host at their new location? >> >> Any topics? >> >> >> -- >> Brian Ray >> @brianray >> (773) 669-7717 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > > > -- > Naomi Ceder > https://plus.google.com/u/0/111396744045017339164/about > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -- Brian Ray @brianray (773) 669-7717 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > Great! > > Could you give me your new address and directions on getting there? > > > On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Naomi Ceder wrote: > >> Zoro Tools will be delighted to host. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >> >>> ** Please note this is the special NORTH suburbs Python User Group not >>> the Loop group, you are welcome to come ** >>> >>> It happens a week from this Thursday. >>> >>> Did I hear Zoro Tools could host at their new location? >>> >>> Any topics? >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Brian Ray >>> @brianray >>> (773) 669-7717 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Naomi Ceder >> https://plus.google.com/u/0/111396744045017339164/about >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -- Naomi Ceder https://plus.google.com/u/0/111396744045017339164/about -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:11 PM, sheila miguez wrote: > Someone posted a link to memorial hackathons around the world for aaronsw. > > > > I guess maybe the discussion started here? > > > > > -- > sheila -- sheila From wilson.tamarrie at gmail.com Tue Jan 15 19:28:03 2013 From: wilson.tamarrie at gmail.com (T Wilson) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:28:03 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] memorial hackathon In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Good Stuff. I wish i was that good. lol On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:17 PM, sheila miguez wrote: > Python office hours is this Thursday. Please someone help me put > together small projects or learning tutorials for web.py or things he > has worked on so that we can have a hackathon too? > > On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:11 PM, sheila miguez wrote: > > Someone posted a link to memorial hackathons around the world for > aaronsw. > > > > < > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ai2JAMm86EJbdFg1TW5tenNJSUt3X2dVVmQ3M08xSlE#gid=0 > > > > > > I guess maybe the discussion started here? > > > > > > > > > > -- > > sheila > > > > -- > sheila > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shekay at pobox.com Tue Jan 15 19:51:11 2013 From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:51:11 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] memorial hackathon In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I went ahead and changed the description of the meetup page and added the meetup link to the spreadsheet. Someone also added chipy to it, so that is great. I got advice on #openhatch.Asheesh listed some projects off the top of his head and said that I'd need to do some research to find (and probably playtest) bitesize issues. I don't know how much I will get done by Thursday, but I'm sure we can come up with something. * https://github.com/webpy/webpy * http://www.allthingsrss.com/rss2email/ * html2text * check on packaging in ubuntu, debian, homebrew, etc. or maybe if that is too advanced we can do some hello worlds with various things. On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:17 PM, sheila miguez wrote: > Python office hours is this Thursday. Please someone help me put > together small projects or learning tutorials for web.py or things he > has worked on so that we can have a hackathon too? > > On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:11 PM, sheila miguez wrote: >> Someone posted a link to memorial hackathons around the world for aaronsw. >> >> >> >> I guess maybe the discussion started here? >> >> >> >> >> -- >> sheila > > > > -- > sheila -- sheila From sean.michael.farley at gmail.com Tue Jan 15 20:26:22 2013 From: sean.michael.farley at gmail.com (Sean Farley) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 13:26:22 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] memorial hackathon In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:51 PM, sheila miguez wrote: > I went ahead and changed the description of the meetup page and added > the meetup link to the spreadsheet. Someone also added chipy to it, so > that is great. > > > > I got advice on #openhatch.Asheesh listed some projects off the top of > his head and said that I'd need to do some research to find (and > probably playtest) bitesize issues. I don't know how much I will get > done by Thursday, but I'm sure we can come up with something. > > * https://github.com/webpy/webpy > * http://www.allthingsrss.com/rss2email/ > * html2text Woah, this is crazy. I've been meaning to submit html2text to macports for over a month but didn't realize this connection to Aaron until now. I guess it's a sign that I will attend this meet up and work on that (if that's ok). From shekay at pobox.com Tue Jan 15 20:40:05 2013 From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 13:40:05 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] memorial hackathon In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Sean Farley wrote: >> I got advice on #openhatch.Asheesh listed some projects off the top of >> his head and said that I'd need to do some research to find (and >> probably playtest) bitesize issues. I don't know how much I will get >> done by Thursday, but I'm sure we can come up with something. >> >> * https://github.com/webpy/webpy >> * http://www.allthingsrss.com/rss2email/ >> * html2text > > Woah, this is crazy. I've been meaning to submit html2text to macports > for over a month but didn't realize this connection to Aaron until > now. I guess it's a sign that I will attend this meet up and work on > that (if that's ok). It is very okay and I would be grateful. Asheesh also suggested that reviewing pull requests is an important way to help projects. For example, -- sheila From randy7771026 at gmail.com Wed Jan 16 14:01:46 2013 From: randy7771026 at gmail.com (Randy Baxley) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 07:01:46 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Special Aaron Swartz dedicated meeting with cocktail reception In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.suntimes.com/business/17594002-420/aaron-swartz-memorialized-at-service.html Before you read this I want you to know the three D portrait was only a mental image. On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > > It is official... > > We are planning a special pre-meeting cocktail reception next month (feb > 14) at Braintree in memory of our friend who loved ChiPy for years, Aaron > Swartz. Everyone with kind thoughts from the Tech/Python/Activist community > is encourage to attend. It will be acceptable to stop in (with your v-day > dates) and say hello and be on your way. 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This seems to be the intended behavior as you increase the horizontal component of the velocity by 10% each time theres a paddle hit. ball_vel[0] = ( -ball_vel[0] ) * 1.0 This horizontal speed does not get reset in magnitude after a point is scored but it does get reversed (this doesn;t really affect the bug, but I can't really tell if this is intended) : else: ball_vel[0] = ( -ball_vel[0] ) To get to the meat of the bug though, what is happening is that you are multiplying up the magnitude of the horizontal by 1.1 each hit (e.g 4,.4.4, 4.84, ~5.32, ~5.86, ~6.44, ~7.09). As you noted this does eventually go above 7, but consider what the code does in that situation. if ( ball_pos[1] <= bottom1 ) and ( ball_pos[1] >= top1 ): # You hit left paddle # increase abolute velocity 10 percent but to no more than 7 print ' hit paddle ' if abs( ball_vel[0] ) < 7: ball_vel[0] = ( -ball_vel[0] ) * 1.1 This means that when the paddle is lined up for a hit, it will pass the first if, print the 'hit paddle' and then fail the second if condition, which means the ball never gets reversed. To the second part of your question, I assume you are asking why this eventually gets counted as a point. This is simply because as the ball goes through the paddle, it will eventually no longer satisfy the first if condition of being between the two paddle boundaries (especially since ht user wont be able to see the ball anymore) and will fall through to the else, which will run the 'point scored' code, There are a couple of simple ways to close this bug (depending on how strictly you want to enforce the 7 speed limit), but rather than spelling them out for you hopefully, this helps you getting on the right track to coming up with a solution. Post back if you're still having trouble. Adam Bain On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Randy Baxley wrote: > > Would someone play this game and tell me why towards the end the ball > speed increases when hitting the gutters and fails the test when hitting > the paddles and then passes the test? > > http://www.codeskulptor.org/#user8-paYp6vO6lS-19.py > > TIA, > > Randy > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From randy7771026 at gmail.com Thu Jan 17 07:12:14 2013 From: randy7771026 at gmail.com (Randy Baxley) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 00:12:14 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] My mind is not seeing it In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It sounds like you have put me on the right track but I will likely not have a chance to actually look at it until Friday. Thank you. On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Adam Bain wrote: > Randy, > > I don't see the bug exactly as you describe it. What I see is the ball > speeds up only when hitting the paddles (not when hitting the gutter, I > tried letting the ball hit the gutter a lot and saw no velocity increase > until I hit it with a paddle). This seems to be the intended behavior as > you increase the horizontal component of the velocity by 10% each time > theres a paddle hit. > > ball_vel[0] = ( -ball_vel[0] ) * 1.0 > > This horizontal speed does not get reset in magnitude after a point is > scored but it does get reversed (this doesn;t really affect the bug, but I > can't really tell if this is intended) : > > else: > ball_vel[0] = ( -ball_vel[0] ) > > To get to the meat of the bug though, what is happening is that you are > multiplying up the magnitude of the horizontal by 1.1 each hit (e.g 4,.4.4, > 4.84, ~5.32, ~5.86, ~6.44, ~7.09). As you noted this does eventually go > above 7, but consider what the code does in that situation. > > if ( ball_pos[1] <= bottom1 ) and ( ball_pos[1] >= top1 ): # You hit left > paddle > # increase abolute velocity 10 percent but to no more than 7 > print ' hit paddle ' > if abs( ball_vel[0] ) < 7: > ball_vel[0] = ( -ball_vel[0] ) * 1.1 > > This means that when the paddle is lined up for a hit, it will pass the > first if, print the 'hit paddle' and then fail the second if condition, > which means the ball never gets reversed. > > To the second part of your question, I assume you are asking why this > eventually gets counted as a point. This is simply because as the ball > goes through the paddle, it will eventually no longer satisfy the first if > condition of being between the two paddle boundaries (especially since ht > user wont be able to see the ball anymore) and will fall through to the > else, which will run the 'point scored' code, > > There are a couple of simple ways to close this bug (depending on how > strictly you want to enforce the 7 speed limit), but rather than spelling > them out for you hopefully, this helps you getting on the right track to > coming up with a solution. Post back if you're still having trouble. > > > Adam Bain > > > On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Randy Baxley wrote: > >> >> Would someone play this game and tell me why towards the end the ball >> speed increases when hitting the gutters and fails the test when hitting >> the paddles and then passes the test? >> >> http://www.codeskulptor.org/#user8-paYp6vO6lS-19.py >> >> TIA, >> >> Randy >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wilson.tamarrie at gmail.com Thu Jan 17 13:10:23 2013 From: wilson.tamarrie at gmail.com (T Wilson) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 06:10:23 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] My mind is not seeing it In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The bug is after a person scores higher than 10 points the ball goes right thru the paddles. Just played it to see what's up. Did you copy the code and forget a section after the tenth line? On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 12:12 AM, Randy Baxley wrote: > It sounds like you have put me on the right track but I will likely not > have a chance to actually look at it until Friday. Thank you. > > > On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Adam Bain wrote: > >> Randy, >> >> I don't see the bug exactly as you describe it. What I see is the ball >> speeds up only when hitting the paddles (not when hitting the gutter, I >> tried letting the ball hit the gutter a lot and saw no velocity increase >> until I hit it with a paddle). This seems to be the intended behavior as >> you increase the horizontal component of the velocity by 10% each time >> theres a paddle hit. >> >> ball_vel[0] = ( -ball_vel[0] ) * 1.0 >> >> This horizontal speed does not get reset in magnitude after a point is >> scored but it does get reversed (this doesn;t really affect the bug, but I >> can't really tell if this is intended) : >> >> else: >> ball_vel[0] = ( -ball_vel[0] ) >> >> To get to the meat of the bug though, what is happening is that you are >> multiplying up the magnitude of the horizontal by 1.1 each hit (e.g 4,.4.4, >> 4.84, ~5.32, ~5.86, ~6.44, ~7.09). As you noted this does eventually go >> above 7, but consider what the code does in that situation. >> >> if ( ball_pos[1] <= bottom1 ) and ( ball_pos[1] >= top1 ): # You hit left >> paddle >> # increase abolute velocity 10 percent but to no more than 7 >> print ' hit paddle ' >> if abs( ball_vel[0] ) < 7: >> ball_vel[0] = ( -ball_vel[0] ) * 1.1 >> >> This means that when the paddle is lined up for a hit, it will pass the >> first if, print the 'hit paddle' and then fail the second if condition, >> which means the ball never gets reversed. >> >> To the second part of your question, I assume you are asking why this >> eventually gets counted as a point. This is simply because as the ball >> goes through the paddle, it will eventually no longer satisfy the first if >> condition of being between the two paddle boundaries (especially since ht >> user wont be able to see the ball anymore) and will fall through to the >> else, which will run the 'point scored' code, >> >> There are a couple of simple ways to close this bug (depending on how >> strictly you want to enforce the 7 speed limit), but rather than spelling >> them out for you hopefully, this helps you getting on the right track to >> coming up with a solution. Post back if you're still having trouble. >> >> >> Adam Bain >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Randy Baxley wrote: >> >>> >>> Would someone play this game and tell me why towards the end the ball >>> speed increases when hitting the gutters and fails the test when hitting >>> the paddles and then passes the test? >>> >>> http://www.codeskulptor.org/#user8-paYp6vO6lS-19.py >>> >>> TIA, >>> >>> Randy >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From randy7771026 at gmail.com Thu Jan 17 13:37:34 2013 From: randy7771026 at gmail.com (Randy Baxley) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 06:37:34 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] My mind is not seeing it In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No I wrote the code myself and it was working until I added raising the speed. There is another bug when you hit a corner just right. The ball just slides along an edge. On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 6:10 AM, T Wilson wrote: > The bug is after a person scores higher than 10 points the ball goes right > thru the paddles. Just played it to see what's up. Did you copy the code > and forget a section after the tenth line? > > On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 12:12 AM, Randy Baxley wrote: > >> It sounds like you have put me on the right track but I will likely not >> have a chance to actually look at it until Friday. Thank you. >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Adam Bain wrote: >> >>> Randy, >>> >>> I don't see the bug exactly as you describe it. What I see is the ball >>> speeds up only when hitting the paddles (not when hitting the gutter, I >>> tried letting the ball hit the gutter a lot and saw no velocity increase >>> until I hit it with a paddle). This seems to be the intended behavior as >>> you increase the horizontal component of the velocity by 10% each time >>> theres a paddle hit. >>> >>> ball_vel[0] = ( -ball_vel[0] ) * 1.0 >>> >>> This horizontal speed does not get reset in magnitude after a point is >>> scored but it does get reversed (this doesn;t really affect the bug, but I >>> can't really tell if this is intended) : >>> >>> else: >>> ball_vel[0] = ( -ball_vel[0] ) >>> >>> To get to the meat of the bug though, what is happening is that you are >>> multiplying up the magnitude of the horizontal by 1.1 each hit (e.g 4,.4.4, >>> 4.84, ~5.32, ~5.86, ~6.44, ~7.09). As you noted this does eventually go >>> above 7, but consider what the code does in that situation. >>> >>> if ( ball_pos[1] <= bottom1 ) and ( ball_pos[1] >= top1 ): # You hit >>> left paddle >>> # increase abolute velocity 10 percent but to no more than 7 >>> >>> print ' hit paddle ' >>> if abs( ball_vel[0] ) < 7: >>> ball_vel[0] = ( -ball_vel[0] ) * 1.1 >>> >>> This means that when the paddle is lined up for a hit, it will pass the >>> first if, print the 'hit paddle' and then fail the second if condition, >>> which means the ball never gets reversed. >>> >>> To the second part of your question, I assume you are asking why this >>> eventually gets counted as a point. This is simply because as the ball >>> goes through the paddle, it will eventually no longer satisfy the first if >>> condition of being between the two paddle boundaries (especially since ht >>> user wont be able to see the ball anymore) and will fall through to the >>> else, which will run the 'point scored' code, >>> >>> There are a couple of simple ways to close this bug (depending on how >>> strictly you want to enforce the 7 speed limit), but rather than spelling >>> them out for you hopefully, this helps you getting on the right track to >>> coming up with a solution. Post back if you're still having trouble. >>> >>> >>> Adam Bain >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Randy Baxley wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Would someone play this game and tell me why towards the end the ball >>>> speed increases when hitting the gutters and fails the test when hitting >>>> the paddles and then passes the test? >>>> >>>> http://www.codeskulptor.org/#user8-paYp6vO6lS-19.py >>>> >>>> TIA, >>>> >>>> Randy >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chicago mailing list >>>> Chicago at python.org >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From randy7771026 at gmail.com Thu Jan 17 14:33:48 2013 From: randy7771026 at gmail.com (Randy Baxley) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 07:33:48 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] My mind is not seeing it In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you again. I got that part working this morning. Now I will have to see if maybe that repairs my corner condition as well though logically I do not expect it to do so. Thank you also for letting me make the fix. http://www.codeskulptor.org/#user8-paYp6vO6lS-20.py Sure is fun to actually be able to write things and share them with others. This bug fix process for me is one of the benefits of an Agile process. I knew that the test was somehow causing the problem but have been concentrating recently on trying to learn Google apps as well as putting some of the other tools in the right place in my mind for an online business model and wanting an Open tool for building web pages that is cookie cutter but has the ability to break out of the cookie cutter when one desires. On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Adam Bain wrote: > Randy, > > I don't see the bug exactly as you describe it. What I see is the ball > speeds up only when hitting the paddles (not when hitting the gutter, I > tried letting the ball hit the gutter a lot and saw no velocity increase > until I hit it with a paddle). This seems to be the intended behavior as > you increase the horizontal component of the velocity by 10% each time > theres a paddle hit. > > ball_vel[0] = ( -ball_vel[0] ) * 1.0 > > This horizontal speed does not get reset in magnitude after a point is > scored but it does get reversed (this doesn;t really affect the bug, but I > can't really tell if this is intended) : > > else: > ball_vel[0] = ( -ball_vel[0] ) > > To get to the meat of the bug though, what is happening is that you are > multiplying up the magnitude of the horizontal by 1.1 each hit (e.g 4,.4.4, > 4.84, ~5.32, ~5.86, ~6.44, ~7.09). As you noted this does eventually go > above 7, but consider what the code does in that situation. > > if ( ball_pos[1] <= bottom1 ) and ( ball_pos[1] >= top1 ): # You hit left > paddle > # increase abolute velocity 10 percent but to no more than 7 > print ' hit paddle ' > if abs( ball_vel[0] ) < 7: > ball_vel[0] = ( -ball_vel[0] ) * 1.1 > > This means that when the paddle is lined up for a hit, it will pass the > first if, print the 'hit paddle' and then fail the second if condition, > which means the ball never gets reversed. > > To the second part of your question, I assume you are asking why this > eventually gets counted as a point. This is simply because as the ball > goes through the paddle, it will eventually no longer satisfy the first if > condition of being between the two paddle boundaries (especially since ht > user wont be able to see the ball anymore) and will fall through to the > else, which will run the 'point scored' code, > > There are a couple of simple ways to close this bug (depending on how > strictly you want to enforce the 7 speed limit), but rather than spelling > them out for you hopefully, this helps you getting on the right track to > coming up with a solution. Post back if you're still having trouble. > > > Adam Bain > > > On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Randy Baxley wrote: > >> >> Would someone play this game and tell me why towards the end the ball >> speed increases when hitting the gutters and fails the test when hitting >> the paddles and then passes the test? >> >> http://www.codeskulptor.org/#user8-paYp6vO6lS-19.py >> >> TIA, >> >> Randy >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From deadwisdom at gmail.com Thu Jan 17 15:22:49 2013 From: deadwisdom at gmail.com (Brantley Harris) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 08:22:49 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] PyCon 2013 Schedule Announced! In-Reply-To: <3YlJbz4j2LzS0r@mail.python.org> References: <3YlJbz4j2LzS0r@mail.python.org> Message-ID: I will be going this year, who else is in? On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Brian Curtin wrote: > Hi ChiPy! > > It's that time of year again: the PyCon schedule has been announced and > the rush to pick up tickets is on! https://us.pycon.org/2013/schedule/was completed last week, and we've seen a sharp increase in sales as we > approach 1,500 registrations. This year we're limiting the attendance to > 2,500 for our second year in Santa Clara, CA. The conference runs from > March 13-21. > > The 2013 edition of PyCon is going to be the biggest and best yet. We've > added a sixth track of talks, giving you 114 presentations to view. > Tutorials are better than ever, with an even wider range of topics than > before. They keynotes are being given by an excellent group: Eben Upton, > Jessica McKellar, Raymond Hettinger, and Guido van Rossum. > > Tickets are available now at https://us.pycon.org/2013/registration/. > Student rates were cut in half for 2013 to $125, and individual > registrations are only $350. Corporate tickets are currently $600. No > matter what group you fall into, the value PyCon provides is incredible. > > We've got a ton of great events going on throughout the conference. > There's a workshop for kids 12 and under to learn Python - > https://us.pycon.org/2013/events/letslearnpython/. The successful PyData > conference is running during the sprints - http://sv2013.eventbrite.com/. > The Postgres community is running PyPgDay during the tutorials - > https://us.pycon.org/2013/events/pgday/. > > We're once again doing the 5K run, and the open spaces and sprints will be > a blast as well. We also have a few tricks up our sleeve that we'll update > you on at http://pycon.blogspot.com/ and https://www.twitter.com/PyCon. > > If your organization is interested in sponsoring PyCon, check out our > prospectus at https://us.pycon.org/2013/sponsors/prospectus/ and contact > conference chairman Jesse Noller at jnoller at python.org with any questions. > > Thanks for your time, and we hope to see you at PyCon 2013! > > Jesse Noller > PyCon Chairman > jnoller at python.org > > Brian Curtin > PyCon Publicity Coordinator > brian at python.org > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pkaushik at alum.mit.edu Thu Jan 17 15:36:41 2013 From: pkaushik at alum.mit.edu (Pallavi Anderson) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 08:36:41 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] PyCon 2013 Schedule Announced! In-Reply-To: References: <3YlJbz4j2LzS0r@mail.python.org> Message-ID: I'm in. On Jan 17, 2013 8:23 AM, "Brantley Harris" wrote: > I will be going this year, who else is in? > > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Brian Curtin wrote: > >> Hi ChiPy! >> >> It's that time of year again: the PyCon schedule has been announced and >> the rush to pick up tickets is on! https://us.pycon.org/2013/schedule/was completed last week, and we've seen a sharp increase in sales as we >> approach 1,500 registrations. This year we're limiting the attendance to >> 2,500 for our second year in Santa Clara, CA. The conference runs from >> March 13-21. >> >> The 2013 edition of PyCon is going to be the biggest and best yet. We've >> added a sixth track of talks, giving you 114 presentations to view. >> Tutorials are better than ever, with an even wider range of topics than >> before. They keynotes are being given by an excellent group: Eben Upton, >> Jessica McKellar, Raymond Hettinger, and Guido van Rossum. >> >> Tickets are available now at https://us.pycon.org/2013/registration/. >> Student rates were cut in half for 2013 to $125, and individual >> registrations are only $350. Corporate tickets are currently $600. No >> matter what group you fall into, the value PyCon provides is incredible. >> >> We've got a ton of great events going on throughout the conference. >> There's a workshop for kids 12 and under to learn Python - >> https://us.pycon.org/2013/events/letslearnpython/. The successful PyData >> conference is running during the sprints - http://sv2013.eventbrite.com/. >> The Postgres community is running PyPgDay during the tutorials - >> https://us.pycon.org/2013/events/pgday/. >> >> We're once again doing the 5K run, and the open spaces and sprints will >> be a blast as well. We also have a few tricks up our sleeve that we'll >> update you on at http://pycon.blogspot.com/ and >> https://www.twitter.com/PyCon. >> >> If your organization is interested in sponsoring PyCon, check out our >> prospectus at https://us.pycon.org/2013/sponsors/prospectus/ and contact >> conference chairman Jesse Noller at jnoller at python.org with any >> questions. >> >> Thanks for your time, and we hope to see you at PyCon 2013! >> >> Jesse Noller >> PyCon Chairman >> jnoller at python.org >> >> Brian Curtin >> PyCon Publicity Coordinator >> brian at python.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We've >>> added a sixth track of talks, giving you 114 presentations to view. >>> Tutorials are better than ever, with an even wider range of topics than >>> before. They keynotes are being given by an excellent group: Eben Upton, >>> Jessica McKellar, Raymond Hettinger, and Guido van Rossum. >>> >>> Tickets are available now at https://us.pycon.org/2013/registration/. >>> Student rates were cut in half for 2013 to $125, and individual >>> registrations are only $350. Corporate tickets are currently $600. No >>> matter what group you fall into, the value PyCon provides is incredible. >>> >>> We've got a ton of great events going on throughout the conference. >>> There's a workshop for kids 12 and under to learn Python - >>> https://us.pycon.org/2013/events/letslearnpython/. The successful >>> PyData conference is running during the sprints - >>> http://sv2013.eventbrite.com/. The Postgres community is running >>> PyPgDay during the tutorials - https://us.pycon.org/2013/events/pgday/. >>> >>> We're once again doing the 5K run, and the open spaces and sprints will >>> be a blast as well. We also have a few tricks up our sleeve that we'll >>> update you on at http://pycon.blogspot.com/ and >>> https://www.twitter.com/PyCon. >>> >>> If your organization is interested in sponsoring PyCon, check out our >>> prospectus at https://us.pycon.org/2013/sponsors/prospectus/ and >>> contact conference chairman Jesse Noller at jnoller at python.org with any >>> questions. >>> >>> Thanks for your time, and we hope to see you at PyCon 2013! >>> >>> Jesse Noller >>> PyCon Chairman >>> jnoller at python.org >>> >>> Brian Curtin >>> PyCon Publicity Coordinator >>> brian at python.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -- Brian Ray @brianray (773) 669-7717 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We've >>> added a sixth track of talks, giving you 114 presentations to view. >>> Tutorials are better than ever, with an even wider range of topics than >>> before. They keynotes are being given by an excellent group: Eben Upton, >>> Jessica McKellar, Raymond Hettinger, and Guido van Rossum. >>> >>> Tickets are available now at https://us.pycon.org/2013/registration/. >>> Student rates were cut in half for 2013 to $125, and individual >>> registrations are only $350. Corporate tickets are currently $600. No >>> matter what group you fall into, the value PyCon provides is incredible. >>> >>> We've got a ton of great events going on throughout the conference. >>> There's a workshop for kids 12 and under to learn Python - >>> https://us.pycon.org/2013/events/letslearnpython/. The successful >>> PyData conference is running during the sprints - >>> http://sv2013.eventbrite.com/. The Postgres community is running >>> PyPgDay during the tutorials - https://us.pycon.org/2013/events/pgday/. >>> >>> We're once again doing the 5K run, and the open spaces and sprints will >>> be a blast as well. We also have a few tricks up our sleeve that we'll >>> update you on at http://pycon.blogspot.com/ and >>> https://www.twitter.com/PyCon. >>> >>> If your organization is interested in sponsoring PyCon, check out our >>> prospectus at https://us.pycon.org/2013/sponsors/prospectus/ and >>> contact conference chairman Jesse Noller at jnoller at python.org with any >>> questions. >>> >>> Thanks for your time, and we hope to see you at PyCon 2013! >>> >>> Jesse Noller >>> PyCon Chairman >>> jnoller at python.org >>> >>> Brian Curtin >>> PyCon Publicity Coordinator >>> brian at python.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eviljoel at linux.com Thu Jan 17 18:08:50 2013 From: eviljoel at linux.com (eviljoel) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 17:08:50 +0000 Subject: [Chicago] PyCon 2013 Schedule Announced! In-Reply-To: References: <3YlJbz4j2LzS0r@mail.python.org> Message-ID: Hello All, Going with Carl, assuming he wins the contract. Laters, eviljoel On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Matt Bone wrote: > I'll be there. > > On Jan 17, 2013 9:05 AM, "Pallavi Anderson" wrote: >> >> I'm in. >> >> On Jan 17, 2013 8:23 AM, "Brantley Harris" wrote: >>> >>> I will be going this year, who else is in? >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Brian Curtin wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi ChiPy! >>>> >>>> It's that time of year again: the PyCon schedule has been announced and >>>> the rush to pick up tickets is on! https://us.pycon.org/2013/schedule/ was >>>> completed last week, and we've seen a sharp increase in sales as we approach >>>> 1,500 registrations. This year we're limiting the attendance to 2,500 for >>>> our second year in Santa Clara, CA. The conference runs from March 13-21. >>>> >>>> The 2013 edition of PyCon is going to be the biggest and best yet. We've >>>> added a sixth track of talks, giving you 114 presentations to view. >>>> Tutorials are better than ever, with an even wider range of topics than >>>> before. They keynotes are being given by an excellent group: Eben Upton, >>>> Jessica McKellar, Raymond Hettinger, and Guido van Rossum. >>>> >>>> Tickets are available now at https://us.pycon.org/2013/registration/. >>>> Student rates were cut in half for 2013 to $125, and individual >>>> registrations are only $350. Corporate tickets are currently $600. No matter >>>> what group you fall into, the value PyCon provides is incredible. >>>> >>>> We've got a ton of great events going on throughout the conference. >>>> There's a workshop for kids 12 and under to learn Python - >>>> https://us.pycon.org/2013/events/letslearnpython/. The successful PyData >>>> conference is running during the sprints - http://sv2013.eventbrite.com/. >>>> The Postgres community is running PyPgDay during the tutorials - >>>> https://us.pycon.org/2013/events/pgday/. >>>> >>>> We're once again doing the 5K run, and the open spaces and sprints will >>>> be a blast as well. We also have a few tricks up our sleeve that we'll >>>> update you on at http://pycon.blogspot.com/ and >>>> https://www.twitter.com/PyCon. >>>> >>>> If your organization is interested in sponsoring PyCon, check out our >>>> prospectus at https://us.pycon.org/2013/sponsors/prospectus/ and contact >>>> conference chairman Jesse Noller at jnoller at python.org with any questions. >>>> >>>> Thanks for your time, and we hope to see you at PyCon 2013! >>>> >>>> Jesse Noller >>>> PyCon Chairman >>>> jnoller at python.org >>>> >>>> Brian Curtin >>>> PyCon Publicity Coordinator >>>> brian at python.org >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chicago mailing list >>>> Chicago at python.org >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > From emperorcezar at gmail.com Thu Jan 17 18:12:30 2013 From: emperorcezar at gmail.com (Adam "Cezar" Jenkins) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 11:12:30 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] PyCon 2013 Schedule Announced! In-Reply-To: References: <3YlJbz4j2LzS0r@mail.python.org> Message-ID: My understanding was he already had the contract? I'll go with him too (hopefully) if my employer permits the time off and I can leave my kid with the wife that long. On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:08 AM, eviljoel wrote: > Hello All, > > Going with Carl, assuming he wins the contract. > > Laters, > eviljoel > > > On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Matt Bone wrote: >> I'll be there. >> >> On Jan 17, 2013 9:05 AM, "Pallavi Anderson" wrote: >>> >>> I'm in. >>> >>> On Jan 17, 2013 8:23 AM, "Brantley Harris" wrote: >>>> >>>> I will be going this year, who else is in? >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Brian Curtin wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi ChiPy! >>>>> >>>>> It's that time of year again: the PyCon schedule has been announced and >>>>> the rush to pick up tickets is on! https://us.pycon.org/2013/schedule/ was >>>>> completed last week, and we've seen a sharp increase in sales as we approach >>>>> 1,500 registrations. This year we're limiting the attendance to 2,500 for >>>>> our second year in Santa Clara, CA. The conference runs from March 13-21. >>>>> >>>>> The 2013 edition of PyCon is going to be the biggest and best yet. We've >>>>> added a sixth track of talks, giving you 114 presentations to view. >>>>> Tutorials are better than ever, with an even wider range of topics than >>>>> before. They keynotes are being given by an excellent group: Eben Upton, >>>>> Jessica McKellar, Raymond Hettinger, and Guido van Rossum. >>>>> >>>>> Tickets are available now at https://us.pycon.org/2013/registration/. >>>>> Student rates were cut in half for 2013 to $125, and individual >>>>> registrations are only $350. Corporate tickets are currently $600. No matter >>>>> what group you fall into, the value PyCon provides is incredible. >>>>> >>>>> We've got a ton of great events going on throughout the conference. >>>>> There's a workshop for kids 12 and under to learn Python - >>>>> https://us.pycon.org/2013/events/letslearnpython/. The successful PyData >>>>> conference is running during the sprints - http://sv2013.eventbrite.com/. >>>>> The Postgres community is running PyPgDay during the tutorials - >>>>> https://us.pycon.org/2013/events/pgday/. >>>>> >>>>> We're once again doing the 5K run, and the open spaces and sprints will >>>>> be a blast as well. We also have a few tricks up our sleeve that we'll >>>>> update you on at http://pycon.blogspot.com/ and >>>>> https://www.twitter.com/PyCon. >>>>> >>>>> If your organization is interested in sponsoring PyCon, check out our >>>>> prospectus at https://us.pycon.org/2013/sponsors/prospectus/ and contact >>>>> conference chairman Jesse Noller at jnoller at python.org with any questions. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for your time, and we hope to see you at PyCon 2013! >>>>> >>>>> Jesse Noller >>>>> PyCon Chairman >>>>> jnoller at python.org >>>>> >>>>> Brian Curtin >>>>> PyCon Publicity Coordinator >>>>> brian at python.org >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Chicago mailing list >>>>> Chicago at python.org >>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chicago mailing list >>>> Chicago at python.org >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago From emperorcezar at gmail.com Thu Jan 17 18:12:34 2013 From: emperorcezar at gmail.com (Adam "Cezar" Jenkins) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 11:12:34 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] PyCon 2013 Schedule Announced! In-Reply-To: References: <3YlJbz4j2LzS0r@mail.python.org> Message-ID: My understanding was he already had the contract? I'll go with him too (hopefully) if my employer permits the time off and I can leave my kid with the wife that long. On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:08 AM, eviljoel wrote: > Hello All, > > Going with Carl, assuming he wins the contract. > > Laters, > eviljoel > > > On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Matt Bone wrote: >> I'll be there. >> >> On Jan 17, 2013 9:05 AM, "Pallavi Anderson" wrote: >>> >>> I'm in. >>> >>> On Jan 17, 2013 8:23 AM, "Brantley Harris" wrote: >>>> >>>> I will be going this year, who else is in? >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Brian Curtin wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi ChiPy! >>>>> >>>>> It's that time of year again: the PyCon schedule has been announced and >>>>> the rush to pick up tickets is on! https://us.pycon.org/2013/schedule/ was >>>>> completed last week, and we've seen a sharp increase in sales as we approach >>>>> 1,500 registrations. This year we're limiting the attendance to 2,500 for >>>>> our second year in Santa Clara, CA. The conference runs from March 13-21. >>>>> >>>>> The 2013 edition of PyCon is going to be the biggest and best yet. We've >>>>> added a sixth track of talks, giving you 114 presentations to view. >>>>> Tutorials are better than ever, with an even wider range of topics than >>>>> before. They keynotes are being given by an excellent group: Eben Upton, >>>>> Jessica McKellar, Raymond Hettinger, and Guido van Rossum. >>>>> >>>>> Tickets are available now at https://us.pycon.org/2013/registration/. >>>>> Student rates were cut in half for 2013 to $125, and individual >>>>> registrations are only $350. Corporate tickets are currently $600. No matter >>>>> what group you fall into, the value PyCon provides is incredible. >>>>> >>>>> We've got a ton of great events going on throughout the conference. >>>>> There's a workshop for kids 12 and under to learn Python - >>>>> https://us.pycon.org/2013/events/letslearnpython/. The successful PyData >>>>> conference is running during the sprints - http://sv2013.eventbrite.com/. >>>>> The Postgres community is running PyPgDay during the tutorials - >>>>> https://us.pycon.org/2013/events/pgday/. >>>>> >>>>> We're once again doing the 5K run, and the open spaces and sprints will >>>>> be a blast as well. We also have a few tricks up our sleeve that we'll >>>>> update you on at http://pycon.blogspot.com/ and >>>>> https://www.twitter.com/PyCon. >>>>> >>>>> If your organization is interested in sponsoring PyCon, check out our >>>>> prospectus at https://us.pycon.org/2013/sponsors/prospectus/ and contact >>>>> conference chairman Jesse Noller at jnoller at python.org with any questions. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for your time, and we hope to see you at PyCon 2013! >>>>> >>>>> Jesse Noller >>>>> PyCon Chairman >>>>> jnoller at python.org >>>>> >>>>> Brian Curtin >>>>> PyCon Publicity Coordinator >>>>> brian at python.org >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Chicago mailing list >>>>> Chicago at python.org >>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chicago mailing list >>>> Chicago at python.org >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago From shekay at pobox.com Thu Jan 17 20:22:03 2013 From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:22:03 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] date change Re: memorial hackathon Message-ID: I think I may be coming down with something, and I asked Carl if he could take over tonight, but our house furnace broke. So I don't know how long that takes to fix. This means that I don't have anyone to host office hours, though I do know that someone(s) at hte space will be able to open the doors to let people in the lounge and do logistics stuff like that. I am thinking it will be better to belay the memorial hacknight until next office hours. On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:51 PM, sheila miguez wrote: > I went ahead and changed the description of the meetup page and added > the meetup link to the spreadsheet. Someone also added chipy to it, so > that is great. > > > > I got advice on #openhatch.Asheesh listed some projects off the top of > his head and said that I'd need to do some research to find (and > probably playtest) bitesize issues. I don't know how much I will get > done by Thursday, but I'm sure we can come up with something. > > * https://github.com/webpy/webpy > * http://www.allthingsrss.com/rss2email/ > * html2text > * check on packaging in ubuntu, debian, homebrew, etc. > > or maybe if that is too advanced we can do some hello worlds with > various things. > > On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:17 PM, sheila miguez wrote: >> Python office hours is this Thursday. Please someone help me put >> together small projects or learning tutorials for web.py or things he >> has worked on so that we can have a hackathon too? >> >> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:11 PM, sheila miguez wrote: >>> Someone posted a link to memorial hackathons around the world for aaronsw. >>> >>> >>> >>> I guess maybe the discussion started here? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> sheila >> >> >> >> -- >> sheila > > > > -- > sheila -- sheila From shekay at pobox.com Thu Jan 17 20:39:49 2013 From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:39:49 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] date change Re: memorial hackathon In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This colaborative doc is where I will put notes on things that can be planned to do on a hack night. http://piratepad.net/BfOD8GoTb9 do we have talks/etc. for chipy planned? I really care about open access and open science and I could try to talk for 5 minutes on that. I would like for someone with more experience to talk about it, but if no one is available I would try to say something. 5 to 10 minutes. On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 1:22 PM, sheila miguez wrote: > I think I may be coming down with something, and I asked Carl if he > could take over tonight, but our house furnace broke. So I don't know > how long that takes to fix. > > This means that I don't have anyone to host office hours, though I do > know that someone(s) at hte space will be able to open the doors to > let people in the lounge and do logistics stuff like that. > > I am thinking it will be better to belay the memorial hacknight until > next office hours. > > On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:51 PM, sheila miguez wrote: >> I went ahead and changed the description of the meetup page and added >> the meetup link to the spreadsheet. Someone also added chipy to it, so >> that is great. >> >> >> >> I got advice on #openhatch.Asheesh listed some projects off the top of >> his head and said that I'd need to do some research to find (and >> probably playtest) bitesize issues. I don't know how much I will get >> done by Thursday, but I'm sure we can come up with something. >> >> * https://github.com/webpy/webpy >> * http://www.allthingsrss.com/rss2email/ >> * html2text >> * check on packaging in ubuntu, debian, homebrew, etc. >> >> or maybe if that is too advanced we can do some hello worlds with >> various things. >> >> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:17 PM, sheila miguez wrote: >>> Python office hours is this Thursday. Please someone help me put >>> together small projects or learning tutorials for web.py or things he >>> has worked on so that we can have a hackathon too? >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:11 PM, sheila miguez wrote: >>>> Someone posted a link to memorial hackathons around the world for aaronsw. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I guess maybe the discussion started here? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> sheila >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> sheila >> >> >> >> -- >> sheila > > > > -- > sheila -- sheila From shekay at pobox.com Thu Jan 17 20:41:27 2013 From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:41:27 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] PyCon 2013 Schedule Announced! In-Reply-To: References: <3YlJbz4j2LzS0r@mail.python.org> Message-ID: I'm going! This year I am extra excited because I plan to also stay for sprints. I enjoyed them at pycon.ca and want to do that again. On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Brantley Harris wrote: > I will be going this year, who else is in? -- sheila From livne at uchicago.edu Thu Jan 17 21:05:16 2013 From: livne at uchicago.edu (Oren Livne) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 14:05:16 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Numpy Slicing Message-ID: <50F8597C.9010009@uchicago.edu> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14386822/fast-numpy-slicing Thanks From brian at python.org Thu Jan 17 21:09:15 2013 From: brian at python.org (Brian Curtin) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 14:09:15 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Numpy Slicing In-Reply-To: <50F8597C.9010009@uchicago.edu> References: <50F8597C.9010009@uchicago.edu> Message-ID: On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Oren Livne wrote: > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14386822/fast-numpy-slicing > Thanks Thanks for what? From livne at uchicago.edu Thu Jan 17 21:20:36 2013 From: livne at uchicago.edu (Oren Livne) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 14:20:36 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Numpy Slicing In-Reply-To: References: <50F8597C.9010009@uchicago.edu> Message-ID: <50F85D14.9060802@uchicago.edu> Thanks for looking at this question if you have time :) On 1/17/2013 2:09 PM, Brian Curtin wrote: > On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Oren Livne wrote: >> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14386822/fast-numpy-slicing >> Thanks > Thanks for what? > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -- A person is just about as big as the things that make him angry. From danieltpeters at gmail.com Tue Jan 15 03:13:07 2013 From: danieltpeters at gmail.com (Daniel Peters) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:13:07 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] wherein hn exposes what a fetid wasteland it actually is. Message-ID: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5056279 I know its passe to say this, but, fuck man, never again. Never going to that place again. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From emperorcezar at gmail.com Fri Jan 18 13:54:00 2013 From: emperorcezar at gmail.com (Adam "Cezar" Jenkins) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 06:54:00 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] wherein hn exposes what a fetid wasteland it actually is. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Comments on HN are dynamically sorted. You'll have to link to a particular one. On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Daniel Peters wrote: > http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5056279 > > I know its passe to say this, but, fuck man, never again. 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URL: From jmwebstuff at yahoo.com Fri Jan 18 16:30:29 2013 From: jmwebstuff at yahoo.com (Julie Bell) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 07:30:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Chicago] North Group Message-ID: <1358523029.81092.YahooMailNeo@web120603.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> I can't attend this month (maybe not until May). I have signed up for a Thursday Night class. If I drop it, I should make some of the meetings. Sorry. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brianhray at gmail.com Fri Jan 18 16:56:26 2013 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 09:56:26 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Looking for ChiPy Voneteer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ok, found someone. Thank you, Cezar! On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > I am looking for a volunteer to help moderate the mailing list. You must > come to many of the meetings and be involved (we do not want just anyone > doing this). > > Your responsibilities will include checking the admin panel when you get > emails to see if / why an email was stopped. There is also something > special I want you to do when someone emails the list and they are not > subscribed with that email. For instance, send them an email and ask them > if they want it approved. If it is a job, check to see if it is in Chicago > and send them our recommended referral rates for finding jobs through ChiPy. > > Email me on or off the list if you wish to be considered. > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > -- Brian Ray @brianray (773) 669-7717 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ken.wasetis at contextualcorp.com Fri Jan 18 17:25:42 2013 From: ken.wasetis at contextualcorp.com (Ken Wasetis - Contextual Corp.) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 10:25:42 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] ChiPy *North* presentations / topics In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <50F97786.7050008@contextualcorp.com> Would anyone be interested in hearing about latest developments in / seeing demo of Plone? Or of Diazo? Also, the new approach to theming in Plone is called Diazo (see: Diazo.org), which can be run as a WSGI plugin without Plone at all; we just happened to standardize on it and incorporate it into Plone core in most recent release or two. Diazo leverages lxml under the hood and is pretty sweet, if I do say so. It's always fun to build a mash-up of, say, Fox News content and apply the CNN theme or something. LOL It basically lets you leverage XSLT (higher abstracted API rules to do 90%) to apply whatever static (or remote) theme to your dynamic web apps. While Diazo can be used to theme a one-off web app, I think its sweet spot is the ability to theme consistently across multiple web apps of different technology flavors and/or hosting locations, especially in a SaaS world, where you might not always have back-end access to modify templates, CSS, etc. (if 3rd party provides the web app, such as Salesforce.com; yes, you'd have to run requests through your own proxy and experience more hops, but when you absolutely need to theme consistently across apps...) Cheers, Ken On 1/18/13 7:48 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > > Does anybody want to present on anything at ChiPy North edition next week? > > I could do a follow up talk on Marmir (https://github.com/brianray/mm) > if anyone is interested. However, it will probably last no longer than > the first (20 minutes or so). > > > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -- Ken Wasetis President & CMS Solution Architect Contextual Corp. office: 847-356-3027 ken.wasetis at contextualcorp.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jordanb at hafd.org Fri Jan 18 17:33:30 2013 From: jordanb at hafd.org (Jordan Bettis) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 10:33:30 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] wherein hn exposes what a fetid wasteland it actually is. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <50F9795A.4070807@hafd.org> Mean forums on the internet are mean. :P https://twitter.com/shit_hn_says On 01/14/2013 08:13 PM, Daniel Peters wrote: > http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5056279 > > I know its passe to say this, but, fuck man, never again. Never going to > that place again. > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago From randy7771026 at gmail.com Fri Jan 18 20:09:40 2013 From: randy7771026 at gmail.com (Randy Baxley) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 13:09:40 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] wherein hn exposes what a fetid wasteland it actually is. In-Reply-To: <50F9795A.4070807@hafd.org> References: <50F9795A.4070807@hafd.org> Message-ID: I need a vote up button for this post. On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Jordan Bettis wrote: > > Mean forums on the internet are mean. :P > > https://twitter.com/shit_hn_says > > > On 01/14/2013 08:13 PM, Daniel Peters wrote: > > http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5056279 > > > > I know its passe to say this, but, fuck man, never again. Never going to > > that place again. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From randy7771026 at gmail.com Fri Jan 18 20:12:59 2013 From: randy7771026 at gmail.com (Randy Baxley) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 13:12:59 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Looking for ChiPy Voneteer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: + 1 On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > I am looking for a volunteer to help moderate the mailing list. You must > come to many of the meetings and be involved (we do not want just anyone > doing this). > > Your responsibilities will include checking the admin panel when you get > emails to see if / why an email was stopped. There is also something > special I want you to do when someone emails the list and they are not > subscribed with that email. For instance, send them an email and ask them > if they want it approved. If it is a job, check to see if it is in Chicago > and send them our recommended referral rates for finding jobs through ChiPy. > > Email me on or off the list if you wish to be considered. > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From randy7771026 at gmail.com Fri Jan 18 20:24:33 2013 From: randy7771026 at gmail.com (Randy Baxley) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 13:24:33 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Looking for ChiPy Voneteer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Go Cezar! Why does the spelling look wrong? On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > Ok, found someone. Thank you, Cezar! > > > > On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > >> I am looking for a volunteer to help moderate the mailing list. You must >> come to many of the meetings and be involved (we do not want just anyone >> doing this). >> >> Your responsibilities will include checking the admin panel when you get >> emails to see if / why an email was stopped. There is also something >> special I want you to do when someone emails the list and they are not >> subscribed with that email. For instance, send them an email and ask them >> if they want it approved. If it is a job, check to see if it is in Chicago >> and send them our recommended referral rates for finding jobs through ChiPy. >> >> Email me on or off the list if you wish to be considered. >> >> -- >> Brian Ray >> @brianray >> (773) 669-7717 >> > > > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From emperorcezar at gmail.com Fri Jan 18 21:11:05 2013 From: emperorcezar at gmail.com (Adam "Cezar" Jenkins) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 14:11:05 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Looking for ChiPy Voneteer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Of what? On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Randy Baxley wrote: > Go Cezar! Why does the spelling look wrong? > > > > On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >> >> Ok, found someone. Thank you, Cezar! >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >>> >>> I am looking for a volunteer to help moderate the mailing list. You must >>> come to many of the meetings and be involved (we do not want just anyone >>> doing this). >>> >>> Your responsibilities will include checking the admin panel when you get >>> emails to see if / why an email was stopped. There is also something special >>> I want you to do when someone emails the list and they are not subscribed >>> with that email. For instance, send them an email and ask them if they want >>> it approved. If it is a job, check to see if it is in Chicago and send them >>> our recommended referral rates for finding jobs through ChiPy. >>> >>> Email me on or off the list if you wish to be considered. >>> >>> -- >>> Brian Ray >>> @brianray >>> (773) 669-7717 >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Brian Ray >> @brianray >> (773) 669-7717 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > From stephen_maroda at centerpointrecruiting.com Fri Jan 18 23:40:36 2013 From: stephen_maroda at centerpointrecruiting.com (Stephen Maroda) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 22:40:36 +0000 Subject: [Chicago] Python Engineer Role Local Message-ID: <75700EB3D182254483A21880B7B345A51B3A5F9C@oasslcexm03.oaifield.onasgn.com> Happy Friday All I need a bit of help. I have a client who insists these two candidate profiles just don't exist right now in Chicagoland. I know you guys and I know he's wrong. If anyone is looking to make a move, let me know. 1 - Python Engineers with meaningful web product development experience ... i.e. they've been *the* or one of the primary coder(s), made strategy decisions re: product flow and functionality in a data-heavy environment. Boolean Buzz words: SaaS, RabbitMQ, PostgreSQL, NoSQL, SQLAlchemy, Django, Python, C++, TDD, GIT, SVN, Agile. The best Python folks tend to be polyglots ... C++, Java, Ruby exposure too. $90k to $140k depending on experience and salary progression. 2) - Advanced Front End/UI Engineers with significant modern Javascript experience ... Backbone.js, Knockout.js, etc. MVC frameworks. Backend experience as well that's +++ -- especially PHP, Java, or Ruby. We could place a range of experience levels here. 2-3 year Engineers at $75-$85k all the way up to 12 year folks at salaries approaching $120k. I'm available to chat on weekends if it's more convenient for anyone's schedule. Best, __________________________________ Stephen Maroda Senior Recruiting Specialist Centerpoint 855.589.8248 Office 480.729.8639 Direct 480.978.9771 FAX stephen_maroda at centerpointrecruiting.com www.oxfordcorp.com Oxford Europe NYSE: ASGN The Right Talent. Right Now.(r) This e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is intended only for the addressee(s) named herein and may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, immediately notify the sender by return e-mail and permanently delete the original, including any attachments thereto, and any copy and printout thereof. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From emperorcezar at gmail.com Sat Jan 19 01:28:36 2013 From: emperorcezar at gmail.com (Adam "Cezar" Jenkins) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 18:28:36 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Python Engineer Role Local In-Reply-To: <75700EB3D182254483A21880B7B345A51B3A5F9C@oasslcexm03.oaifield.onasgn.com> References: <75700EB3D182254483A21880B7B345A51B3A5F9C@oasslcexm03.oaifield.onasgn.com> Message-ID: NoSQL is a really big arena. Any specification of which one? Mongo, Couch, Redis, etc, etc. I also love the SQLAlchemy and Django and NoSQL. Either they are using Alchemy instead of the ORM, or they are using Flask, Pyramid, etc. On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Stephen Maroda wrote: > Happy Friday All > > > > I need a bit of help. I have a client who insists these two candidate > profiles just don?t exist right now in Chicagoland. I know you guys and I > know he?s wrong. If anyone is looking to make a move, let me know. > > > > 1 ? Python Engineers with meaningful web product development experience ? > i.e. they?ve been *the* or one of the primary coder(s), made strategy > decisions re: product flow and functionality in a data-heavy environment. > Boolean Buzz words: SaaS, RabbitMQ, PostgreSQL, NoSQL, SQLAlchemy, Django, > Python, C++, TDD, GIT, SVN, Agile. The best Python folks tend to be > polyglots ? C++, Java, Ruby exposure too. $90k to $140k depending on > experience and salary progression. > > > > 2) ? Advanced Front End/UI Engineers with significant modern Javascript > experience ? Backbone.js, Knockout.js, etc. MVC frameworks. Backend > experience as well that?s +++ -- especially PHP, Java, or Ruby. We could > place a range of experience levels here. 2-3 year Engineers at $75-$85k all > the way up to 12 year folks at salaries approaching $120k. > > > > I?m available to chat on weekends if it?s more convenient for anyone?s > schedule. > > > > Best, > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Stephen Maroda > > Senior Recruiting Specialist > > Centerpoint > > > > 855.589.8248 Office > > 480.729.8639 Direct > > 480.978.9771 FAX > > stephen_maroda at centerpointrecruiting.com > > > > www.oxfordcorp.com > > Oxford Europe > NYSE: ASGN > > The Right Talent. Right Now.? > > This e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is intended only for the > addressee(s) named herein and may contain privileged and/or confidential > information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified > that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, and any > attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this > e-mail in error, immediately notify the sender by return e-mail and > permanently delete the original, including any attachments thereto, and any > copy and printout thereof. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > From hundredpercentjuice at gmail.com Sat Jan 19 04:57:01 2013 From: hundredpercentjuice at gmail.com (JS Irick) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 21:57:01 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Yo, people better at archiving than me! In-Reply-To: <75700EB3D182254483A21880B7B345A51B3A5F9C@oasslcexm03.oaifield.onasgn.com> References: <75700EB3D182254483A21880B7B345A51B3A5F9C@oasslcexm03.oaifield.onasgn.com> Message-ID: <274124C6-6EB1-431E-A35A-4EEDA9AE6E25@gmail.com> How do we keep Aaron's writing up for life? I was rereading "fix the machine, not the people" and bawling. Little help? I don't want to look for it in a year and see it gone.... -- JS Irick 312-307-8904 (sent via phone) On Jan 18, 2013, at 4:40 PM, Stephen Maroda wrote: > Happy Friday All > > I need a bit of help. I have a client who insists these two candidate profiles just don?t exist right now in Chicagoland. I know you guys and I know he?s wrong. If anyone is looking to make a move, let me know. > > 1 ? Python Engineers with meaningful web product development experience ? i.e. they?ve been *the* or one of the primary coder(s), made strategy decisions re: product flow and functionality in a data-heavy environment. Boolean Buzz words: SaaS, RabbitMQ, PostgreSQL, NoSQL, SQLAlchemy, Django, Python, C++, TDD, GIT, SVN, Agile. The best Python folks tend to be polyglots ? C++, Java, Ruby exposure too. $90k to $140k depending on experience and salary progression. > > 2) ? Advanced Front End/UI Engineers with significant modern Javascript experience ? Backbone.js, Knockout.js, etc. MVC frameworks. Backend experience as well that?s +++ -- especially PHP, Java, or Ruby. We could place a range of experience levels here. 2-3 year Engineers at $75-$85k all the way up to 12 year folks at salaries approaching $120k. > > I?m available to chat on weekends if it?s more convenient for anyone?s schedule. > > Best, > > > __________________________________ > Stephen Maroda > Senior Recruiting Specialist > Centerpoint > > 855.589.8248 Office > 480.729.8639 Direct > 480.978.9771 FAX > stephen_maroda at centerpointrecruiting.com > > www.oxfordcorp.com > Oxford Europe > NYSE: ASGN > The Right Talent. Right Now.? > This e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is intended only for the addressee(s) named herein and may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, immediately notify the sender by return e-mail and permanently delete the original, including any attachments thereto, and any copy and printout thereof. > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ken at stox.org Sat Jan 19 05:18:26 2013 From: ken at stox.org (Kenneth Stox) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 22:18:26 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Yo, people better at archiving than me! In-Reply-To: <274124C6-6EB1-431E-A35A-4EEDA9AE6E25@gmail.com> References: <75700EB3D182254483A21880B7B345A51B3A5F9C@oasslcexm03.oaifield.onasgn.com> <274124C6-6EB1-431E-A35A-4EEDA9AE6E25@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1358569106.8360.0.camel@cerebrus> Donate to archive.org. On Fri, 2013-01-18 at 21:57 -0600, JS Irick wrote: > How do we keep Aaron's writing up for life? I was rereading "fix the > machine, not the people" and bawling. > > > Little help? I don't want to look for it in a year and see it gone.... > > > -- > JS Irick > 312-307-8904 > (sent via phone) > > On Jan 18, 2013, at 4:40 PM, Stephen Maroda > wrote: > > > > Happy Friday All > > > > > > > > I need a bit of help. I have a client who insists these two > > candidate profiles just don?t exist right now in Chicagoland. I know > > you guys and I know he?s wrong. If anyone is looking to make a move, > > let me know. > > > > > > > > 1 ? Python Engineers with meaningful web product development > > experience ? i.e. they?ve been *the* or one of the primary coder(s), > > made strategy decisions re: product flow and functionality in a > > data-heavy environment. Boolean Buzz words: SaaS, RabbitMQ, > > PostgreSQL, NoSQL, SQLAlchemy, Django, Python, C++, TDD, GIT, SVN, > > Agile. The best Python folks tend to be polyglots ? C++, Java, Ruby > > exposure too. $90k to $140k depending on experience and salary > > progression. > > > > > > > > 2) ? Advanced Front End/UI Engineers with significant modern > > Javascript experience ? Backbone.js, Knockout.js, etc. MVC > > frameworks. Backend experience as well that?s +++ -- especially > > PHP, Java, or Ruby. We could place a range of experience levels > > here. 2-3 year Engineers at $75-$85k all the way up to 12 year > > folks at salaries approaching $120k. > > > > > > > > I?m available to chat on weekends if it?s more convenient for > > anyone?s schedule. > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > > Stephen Maroda > > > > Senior Recruiting Specialist > > > > Centerpoint > > > > > > > > 855.589.8248 Office > > > > 480.729.8639 Direct > > > > 480.978.9771 FAX > > > > stephen_maroda at centerpointrecruiting.com > > > > > > > > www.oxfordcorp.com > > > > Oxford Europe > > NYSE: ASGN > > > > The Right Talent. Right Now.? > > > > This e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is intended only for the > > addressee(s) named herein and may contain privileged and/or > > confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, > > you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or > > copying of this e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is strictly > > prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, immediately > > notify the sender by return e-mail and permanently delete the > > original, including any attachments thereto, and any copy and > > printout thereof. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago From mjohn23 at gmail.com Sat Jan 19 05:33:45 2013 From: mjohn23 at gmail.com (Matthew Johnson) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 22:33:45 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Yo, people better at archiving than me! In-Reply-To: <274124C6-6EB1-431E-A35A-4EEDA9AE6E25@gmail.com> References: <75700EB3D182254483A21880B7B345A51B3A5F9C@oasslcexm03.oaifield.onasgn.com> <274124C6-6EB1-431E-A35A-4EEDA9AE6E25@gmail.com> Message-ID: wget -r http://www.aaronsw.com and mirror/torrent it? Matt On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 9:57 PM, JS Irick wrote: > How do we keep Aaron's writing up for life? I was rereading "fix the > machine, not the people" and bawling. > > Little help? I don't want to look for it in a year and see it gone.... > > > -- > JS Irick > 312-307-8904 > (sent via phone) > > On Jan 18, 2013, at 4:40 PM, Stephen Maroda < > stephen_maroda at centerpointrecruiting.com> wrote: > > Happy Friday All**** > > ** ** > > I need a bit of help. I have a client who insists these two candidate > profiles just don?t exist right now in Chicagoland. I know you guys and I > know he?s wrong. If anyone is looking to make a move, let me know. **** > > ** ** > > 1 ? Python Engineers with meaningful web product development experience ? > i.e. they?ve been **the** or one of the primary coder(s), made strategy > decisions re: product flow and functionality in a data-heavy environment. > Boolean Buzz words: SaaS, RabbitMQ, PostgreSQL, NoSQL, SQLAlchemy, Django, > Python, C++, TDD, GIT, SVN, Agile. The best Python folks tend to be > polyglots ? C++, Java, Ruby exposure too. $90k to $140k depending on > experience and salary progression. **** > > ** ** > > 2) ? Advanced Front End/UI Engineers with significant *modern Javascript > experience* ? Backbone.js, Knockout.js, etc. MVC frameworks. Backend > experience as well that?s +++ -- especially PHP, Java, or Ruby. We could > place a range of experience levels here. 2-3 year Engineers at $75-$85k > all the way up to 12 year folks at salaries approaching $120k. **** > > ** ** > > I?m available to chat on weekends if it?s more convenient for anyone?s > schedule. **** > > ** ** > > Best, **** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > __________________________________**** > > *Stephen Maroda***** > > *Senior Recruiting Specialist***** > > *Centerpoint* **** > > **** > > 855.589.8248 Office**** > > 480.729.8639 Direct**** > > 480.978.9771 FAX**** > > stephen_maroda at centerpointrecruiting.com **** > > **** > > www.oxfordcorp.com**** > > Oxford Europe > NYSE: ASGN**** > > *The Right Talent. Right Now.?***** > > This e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is intended only for the > addressee(s) named herein and may contain privileged and/or confidential > information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby > notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, > and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received > this e-mail in error, immediately notify the sender by return e-mail and > permanently delete the original, including any attachments thereto, and any > copy and printout thereof.**** > > **** > > * ***** > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mjohn23 at gmail.com Sat Jan 19 05:43:23 2013 From: mjohn23 at gmail.com (Matthew Johnson) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 22:43:23 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Yo, people better at archiving than me! In-Reply-To: References: <75700EB3D182254483A21880B7B345A51B3A5F9C@oasslcexm03.oaifield.onasgn.com> <274124C6-6EB1-431E-A35A-4EEDA9AE6E25@gmail.com> Message-ID: Here's a copy of what I got from that command in case anyone wants it - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2620421/www.aaronsw.com.zip Not sure if it's the whole thing, but it seems like it. Matt On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 10:33 PM, Matthew Johnson wrote: > wget -r http://www.aaronsw.com and mirror/torrent it? > > Matt > > > On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 9:57 PM, JS Irick wrote: > >> How do we keep Aaron's writing up for life? I was rereading "fix the >> machine, not the people" and bawling. >> >> Little help? I don't want to look for it in a year and see it gone.... >> >> >> -- >> JS Irick >> 312-307-8904 >> (sent via phone) >> >> On Jan 18, 2013, at 4:40 PM, Stephen Maroda < >> stephen_maroda at centerpointrecruiting.com> wrote: >> >> Happy Friday All**** >> >> ** ** >> >> I need a bit of help. I have a client who insists these two candidate >> profiles just don?t exist right now in Chicagoland. I know you guys and I >> know he?s wrong. If anyone is looking to make a move, let me know. **** >> >> ** ** >> >> 1 ? Python Engineers with meaningful web product development experience ? >> i.e. they?ve been **the** or one of the primary coder(s), made strategy >> decisions re: product flow and functionality in a data-heavy environment. >> Boolean Buzz words: SaaS, RabbitMQ, PostgreSQL, NoSQL, SQLAlchemy, Django, >> Python, C++, TDD, GIT, SVN, Agile. The best Python folks tend to be >> polyglots ? C++, Java, Ruby exposure too. $90k to $140k depending on >> experience and salary progression. **** >> >> ** ** >> >> 2) ? Advanced Front End/UI Engineers with significant *modern Javascript >> experience* ? Backbone.js, Knockout.js, etc. MVC frameworks. Backend >> experience as well that?s +++ -- especially PHP, Java, or Ruby. We could >> place a range of experience levels here. 2-3 year Engineers at $75-$85k >> all the way up to 12 year folks at salaries approaching $120k. **** >> >> ** ** >> >> I?m available to chat on weekends if it?s more convenient for anyone?s >> schedule. **** >> >> ** ** >> >> Best, **** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> __________________________________**** >> >> *Stephen Maroda***** >> >> *Senior Recruiting Specialist***** >> >> *Centerpoint* **** >> >> **** >> >> 855.589.8248 Office**** >> >> 480.729.8639 Direct**** >> >> 480.978.9771 FAX**** >> >> stephen_maroda at centerpointrecruiting.com **** >> >> **** >> >> www.oxfordcorp.com**** >> >> Oxford Europe >> NYSE: ASGN**** >> >> *The Right Talent. Right Now.?***** >> >> This e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is intended only for the >> addressee(s) named herein and may contain privileged and/or confidential >> information. 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I don't want to look for it in a year and see it gone.... > From randy7771026 at gmail.com Sat Jan 19 18:06:47 2013 From: randy7771026 at gmail.com (Randy Baxley) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 11:06:47 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Looking for ChiPy Voneteer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Cezar On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins < emperorcezar at gmail.com> wrote: > Of what? > > On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Randy Baxley > wrote: > > Go Cezar! Why does the spelling look wrong? > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > >> > >> Ok, found someone. Thank you, Cezar! > >> > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > >>> > >>> I am looking for a volunteer to help moderate the mailing list. You > must > >>> come to many of the meetings and be involved (we do not want just > anyone > >>> doing this). > >>> > >>> Your responsibilities will include checking the admin panel when you > get > >>> emails to see if / why an email was stopped. There is also something > special > >>> I want you to do when someone emails the list and they are not > subscribed > >>> with that email. For instance, send them an email and ask them if they > want > >>> it approved. If it is a job, check to see if it is in Chicago and send > them > >>> our recommended referral rates for finding jobs through ChiPy. > >>> > >>> Email me on or off the list if you wish to be considered. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Brian Ray > >>> @brianray > >>> (773) 669-7717 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Brian Ray > >> @brianray > >> (773) 669-7717 > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Chicago mailing list > >> Chicago at python.org > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Or of Diazo? > > Also, the new approach to theming in Plone is called Diazo (see: > Diazo.org), which can be run as a WSGI plugin without Plone at all; we just > happened to standardize on it and incorporate it into Plone core in most > recent release or two. > > Diazo leverages lxml under the hood and is pretty sweet, if I do say so. > It's always fun to build a mash-up of, say, Fox News content and apply the > CNN theme or something. LOL It basically lets you leverage XSLT (higher > abstracted API rules to do 90%) to apply whatever static (or remote) theme > to your dynamic web apps. > > While Diazo can be used to theme a one-off web app, I think its sweet spot > is the ability to theme consistently across multiple web apps of different > technology flavors and/or hosting locations, especially in a SaaS world, > where you might not always have back-end access to modify templates, CSS, > etc. (if 3rd party provides the web app, such as Salesforce.com; yes, you'd > have to run requests through your own proxy and experience more hops, but > when you absolutely need to theme consistently across apps...) > > Cheers, > Ken > > > > On 1/18/13 7:48 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > > > Does anybody want to present on anything at ChiPy North edition next > week? > > I could do a follow up talk on Marmir (https://github.com/brianray/mm) > if anyone is interested. 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Amazon ? Author Bio ? Email ? Facebook ? Fan Page ? Google Plus? LinkedIn ? Professional ? Twitter ? Web ? What's New? If you read just one of my books, you'll want The Best of Jonathan's Corner. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephen_maroda at centerpointrecruiting.com Mon Jan 21 18:03:10 2013 From: stephen_maroda at centerpointrecruiting.com (Stephen Maroda) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 17:03:10 +0000 Subject: [Chicago] Python Engineer Role Local In-Reply-To: References: <75700EB3D182254483A21880B7B345A51B3A5F9C@oasslcexm03.oaifield.onasgn.com> Message-ID: <75700EB3D182254483A21880B7B345A51B3A6830@oasslcexm03.oaifield.onasgn.com> Adam, Here is the full write-up. Good call. They are using Alchemy, Redis, and MongoDB. Let me know if you are interested. I could setup an interview this week if you have time. As a member of our Product Development team, you will work closely with other highly skilled software engineers and architects to design and build the next-generation of our SaaS VoC platform. Your expertise designing and building scalable RESTful services, data access layers, message-based workflows and other modern data processing and distribution capabilities will be critical in this role. To join our team, you must embrace and thrive in a collaborative, team-oriented, agile environment that focuses on delighting our customers via high-quality and timely software delivery. Key Responsibilities include: * Development of scalable data collection, storage, processing & distribution platforms & services. * Architecture and design of mission critical modules to support a next-generation VoC SaaS platform and associated APIs. * Investigation, integration, and deployment of new and innovative open-source technologies and frameworks in coordination with enterprise architecture vision. * Collaboration with all members of the technical staff in the delivery of best-in-class technology solutions. Desired Skills & Experience: * 8+ years of object-oriented software design and development, preferably within an agile environment * Superb working knowledge of Python, preferably applied within a SaaS or B2B organization * Should have knowledge of at least some of the following technologies we employ: Twisted, SQLAlchemy, Django, Tastypie, Sentry, Salt, Gunicorn, nginx, Redis, virtualenv, Supervisor * Demonstrated experience leveraging relational and NoSQL databases such as MySQL, PostgreSQL, MongoDB, or Autonomy/IDOL * Expertise in SQL * Hands-on design and development of externally facing RESTful APIs * Hands-on implementation experience with message-based (RabbitMQ, 0MQ or similar), asynchronous, and event-driven architectures is strongly desired * A clear understanding of automated testing frameworks and TDD methodologies (unittest, nose, Trial) * Fluency with Git/GitHub (or able to learn it quickly) * Experience with other programming languages & frameworks including Ruby/Rails, Java, .Net, Shell Scripting, and JavaScript (OO) desired but not required * Proficiency in Unix/Linux environments is required * Fast learning, open-minded, team oriented, dedicated, delivery focused, and collaborative characteristics are critical as are a get-it-done attitude & strong written and spoken English skills -----Original Message----- From: Chicago [mailto:chicago-bounces+stephen_maroda=centerpointrecruiting.com at python.org] On Behalf Of Adam "Cezar" Jenkins Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 5:29 PM To: The Chicago Python Users Group Subject: Re: [Chicago] Python Engineer Role Local NoSQL is a really big arena. Any specification of which one? Mongo, Couch, Redis, etc, etc. I also love the SQLAlchemy and Django and NoSQL. Either they are using Alchemy instead of the ORM, or they are using Flask, Pyramid, etc. On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Stephen Maroda wrote: > Happy Friday All > > > > I need a bit of help. I have a client who insists these two candidate > profiles just don't exist right now in Chicagoland. I know you guys > and I know he's wrong. If anyone is looking to make a move, let me know. > > > > 1 - Python Engineers with meaningful web product development > experience ... i.e. they've been *the* or one of the primary coder(s), > made strategy decisions re: product flow and functionality in a data-heavy environment. > Boolean Buzz words: SaaS, RabbitMQ, PostgreSQL, NoSQL, SQLAlchemy, > Django, Python, C++, TDD, GIT, SVN, Agile. The best Python folks tend > to be polyglots ... C++, Java, Ruby exposure too. $90k to $140k > depending on experience and salary progression. > > > > 2) - Advanced Front End/UI Engineers with significant modern > Javascript experience ... Backbone.js, Knockout.js, etc. MVC > frameworks. Backend experience as well that's +++ -- especially PHP, > Java, or Ruby. We could place a range of experience levels here. 2-3 > year Engineers at $75-$85k all the way up to 12 year folks at salaries approaching $120k. > > > > I'm available to chat on weekends if it's more convenient for anyone's > schedule. > > > > Best, > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Stephen Maroda > > Senior Recruiting Specialist > > Centerpoint > > > > 855.589.8248 Office > > 480.729.8639 Direct > > 480.978.9771 FAX > > stephen_maroda at centerpointrecruiting.com > > > > www.oxfordcorp.com > > Oxford Europe > NYSE: ASGN > > The Right Talent. Right Now.(r) > > This e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is intended only for the > addressee(s) named herein and may contain privileged and/or > confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you > are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of > this e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If > you have received this e-mail in error, immediately notify the sender > by return e-mail and permanently delete the original, including any > attachments thereto, and any copy and printout thereof. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > _______________________________________________ Chicago mailing list Chicago at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago From jp at zavteq.com Mon Jan 21 20:35:50 2013 From: jp at zavteq.com (JP Bader) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 13:35:50 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Geekfest w/ Holovaty Message-ID: Hey ChiPyers, Not sure if anyone else is signed up, sees these, or even goes to Geekfest (I have and find them informational). However Holovaty is presenting on his latest project: http://www.meetup.com/Geekfest/events/98957032/?a=md1_grp&rv=md1&_af_eid=98957032&_af=event Cheers, -- JP Bader Principal Zavteq, Inc. @lordB8r | jp at zavteq.com 608.692.2468 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jessica.novak at texturacorp.com Tue Jan 22 22:00:11 2013 From: jessica.novak at texturacorp.com (Jessica Novak) Date: 22 Jan 2013 16:00:11 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Textura Python Web Developer Opportunity Message-ID: <81342471.1358888411698.JavaMail.cfservice@sl10app6> Hi Everyone! Textura is seeking a full time Python Web Developer to join our organization. Please visit our website to learn more about our web applications we create and who we service www.texturacorp.com . We can offer exposure to many different technologies, excellent culture, compensation, and benefits. If interested, please contact Jessica Novak jessica.novak at texturacorp.com 312-496-7975 . 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On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > RSVP here -> http://chipy.org/ > > > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -- Naomi Ceder https://plus.google.com/u/0/111396744045017339164/about -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shekay at pobox.com Wed Jan 23 16:40:23 2013 From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:40:23 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] aaronsw memorial hackathon documentation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi chipy, I'd like for us to organize a little more in advance than we normally do for the Feb 14 meeting. First, I'd like to know what the format will be: * all talks * mixed format of talks and hacking I'd like the latter if possible. I have a gist where I've collected ideas for a hacknight. https://gist.github.com/4596404 I might have some more organized assistance for open science related projects due to another mailing list I'm on. Specifically, a member on that list is with Mendeley and can provide guidance on open source projects that use their APIs. I've sent him an email about some of the repos in their github account to check which projects might have more need of hacking than others. hopefully they'll have a chance to get back with me on that. I have an ACK already. Projects and talks touching on open government and transparency would also be appropriate, and many of you are involved in these types of projects. I'd ask that someone steps up to talk about this and/or plan a hacking component. I know a couple of people who would be great for this. I'm going to ask if they have time for it. An open science and open gov themed night could also result in sustained activity. Meaning, some projects we could select for this have ongoing and *local* development. We might not make big changesets in one night but some projects have weekly or monthly hacknights around Chicago. thanks On Jan 21, 2013 7:46 PM, "Yan Zhu" wrote: > Hi all, > > First off, thanks to everyone who's contributed to this docor otherwise helped in organizing the Worldwide Aaron Swartz Memorial > Hackathon Series! There's 15 hackathons listed so far on four continents > and almost two dozen project suggestions. > > For purposes of documenting what went on at these hackathons for > posterity, I started this page: > https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Worldwide_Aaron_Swartz_Memorial_Hackathons. > Please contribute event information, links to github repos, > pictures/videos, blog posts, cautionary tales, etc. so we don't die when we > try to do this again in the future. (Also so remote people know what's up.) > > If you want updates on how things are going worldwide, you can follow me > on Twitter: https://twitter.com/unhush > > cheers, > Yan > > -- > Yan Zhu > http://web.mit.edu/zyan/www/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skip at pobox.com Wed Jan 23 16:53:49 2013 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:53:49 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] aaronsw memorial hackathon documentation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sheila, Can I just show up with my laptop and be given a task? My work has generally not overlapped all that much with the sort of work Aaron did, and I've not done anything web-based in several years (only now dipping my toe in the Django water). OTOH, I have this idea for a Django-based bike serial number database to assist owners of vintage bikes in dating their vintage steeds. You can see an initial stab at it as just a Google Spreadsheet (limited to just Medici bikes, a now defunct small builder from Southern California in the 70s-90s): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmInO7qBBGRXdExGR2tNNzNEQk1sbUlyd2d1a0xVQ3c#gid=0 I have an initial stab at things on my laptop, with little more than a schema, a few records, and a user interface a four-year-old could have done better. Maybe someone would like to help me flesh out the user interface? I don't know if that fits in with the theme of the evening or not. I'd be happy to push what I have so far to Heroku. Skip From shekay at pobox.com Wed Jan 23 17:33:27 2013 From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 10:33:27 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] aaronsw memorial hackathon documentation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Skip Montanaro wrote: > Sheila, > > Can I just show up with my laptop and be given a task? The thing about chipy is that we aren't organized, so what I posted was just a suggestion. I'm not in charge, and I just want to suggest some ideas for the next meeting. I'm not even sure people will want to have any project type of activity. Maybe people would rather have talks. If people do want to do some projects, I've observed that OpenHatch does these types of things by picking out bite-sized tasks for people to tackle. I've never done that, so I asked for advice in #openhatch. When I did, it was suggested that I do some research and playtesting to figure out bitesized tasks if a project doesn't already have things categorized this way. Does that make sense? so, if we do have some project based things planned for a meeting, we'd want to make sure bite-sized tasks exist so that people can just show up and have things to do. > [...] My work has > generally not overlapped all that much with the sort of work Aaron > did, and I've not done anything web-based in several years (only now > dipping my toe in the Django water). > OTOH, I have this idea for a Django-based bike serial number database > to assist owners of vintage bikes in dating their vintage steeds. You > can see an initial stab at it as just a Google Spreadsheet (limited to > just Medici bikes, a now defunct small builder from Southern > California in the 70s-90s): > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmInO7qBBGRXdExGR2tNNzNEQk1sbUlyd2d1a0xVQ3c#gid=0 > > I have an initial stab at things on my laptop, with little more than a > schema, a few records, and a user interface a four-year-old could have > done better. Maybe someone would like to help me flesh out the user > interface? I don't know if that fits in with the theme of the evening > or not. I'd be happy to push what I have so far to Heroku. Actually, I'd like for more meetings where people get to do project based work, so if you want to suggest this for a meeting I think it would be cool and I'd give a +1. Otherwise, do you have Thursdays free? Some people meet on the 1st and 3rd Thursdays of the month at Ps:one for python office hours. I know also that FreeGeek has open hack times as well. Saturdays. I can't make all of the FreeGeek times, but have been trying to make all of the Ps:one times. So, if chipy meetings are more talk oriented, we can have hacknights at Ps:one or FreeGeek. If Thursdays are bad, we could have a different time, but right now if I host, I'd have to juggle a lot because of other things I'm doing at the moment (helping with an arduino workshop in Feb, Pycon in March, and I want to pick a time for a new beginners workshop before Pycon if possible, or perhaps an intermediate one, etc.) -- sheila From sean.michael.farley at gmail.com Wed Jan 23 18:59:51 2013 From: sean.michael.farley at gmail.com (Sean Farley) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 11:59:51 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] aaronsw memorial hackathon documentation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 9:40 AM, sheila miguez wrote: > Hi chipy, > > I'd like for us to organize a little more in advance than we normally do for > the Feb 14 meeting. > > First, I'd like to know what the format will be: > * all talks > * mixed format of talks and hacking > > I'd like the latter if possible. Same here :-) Also, thanks for spearheading this discussion. > I have a gist where I've collected ideas for a hacknight. > > https://gist.github.com/4596404 > > I might have some more organized assistance for open science related > projects due to another mailing list I'm on. > > Specifically, a member on that list is with Mendeley and can provide > guidance on open source projects that use their APIs. I've sent him an email > about some of the repos in their github account to check which projects > might have more need of hacking than others. hopefully they'll have a chance > to get back with me on that. I have an ACK already. Oooo, that sounds really interesting to me. Please let me know more about this. > Projects and talks touching on open government and transparency would also > be appropriate, and many of you are involved in these types of projects. I'd > ask that someone steps up to talk about this and/or plan a hacking > component. I know a couple of people who would be great for this. I'm going > to ask if they have time for it. > > An open science and open gov themed night could also result in sustained > activity. Meaning, some projects we could select for this have ongoing and > *local* development. We might not make big changesets in one night but some > projects have weekly or monthly hacknights around Chicago. I agree and also happen to know people that are extremely interested in open science. So, I'd be game for this, too. From sean.michael.farley at gmail.com Wed Jan 23 19:03:26 2013 From: sean.michael.farley at gmail.com (Sean Farley) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 12:03:26 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] aaronsw memorial hackathon documentation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 10:33 AM, sheila miguez wrote: > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Skip Montanaro wrote: >> Sheila, >> >> Can I just show up with my laptop and be given a task? > > The thing about chipy is that we aren't organized, so what I posted > was just a suggestion. I'm not in charge, and I just want to suggest > some ideas for the next meeting. I'm not even sure people will want to > have any project type of activity. Maybe people would rather have > talks. > > If people do want to do some projects, I've observed that OpenHatch > does these types of things by picking out bite-sized tasks for people > to tackle. I've never done that, so I asked for advice in #openhatch. > When I did, it was suggested that I do some research and playtesting > to figure out bitesized tasks if a project doesn't already have things > categorized this way. > > Does that make sense? so, if we do have some project based things > planned for a meeting, we'd want to make sure bite-sized tasks exist > so that people can just show up and have things to do. > > >> [...] My work has >> generally not overlapped all that much with the sort of work Aaron >> did, and I've not done anything web-based in several years (only now >> dipping my toe in the Django water). >> OTOH, I have this idea for a Django-based bike serial number database >> to assist owners of vintage bikes in dating their vintage steeds. You >> can see an initial stab at it as just a Google Spreadsheet (limited to >> just Medici bikes, a now defunct small builder from Southern >> California in the 70s-90s): >> >> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmInO7qBBGRXdExGR2tNNzNEQk1sbUlyd2d1a0xVQ3c#gid=0 >> >> I have an initial stab at things on my laptop, with little more than a >> schema, a few records, and a user interface a four-year-old could have >> done better. Maybe someone would like to help me flesh out the user >> interface? I don't know if that fits in with the theme of the evening >> or not. I'd be happy to push what I have so far to Heroku. > > Actually, I'd like for more meetings where people get to do project > based work, so if you want to suggest this for a meeting I think it > would be cool and I'd give a +1. I'd like to publicly be in favor of this as well :-) From randy7771026 at gmail.com Thu Jan 24 15:19:16 2013 From: randy7771026 at gmail.com (Randy Baxley) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 08:19:16 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Marmir Initial Feedback In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have a github account. Two days old and a Git loaded. Then there is a Gui for Windows and a Git Bash. The Git Bash looks familiar from DOS days but I suppose is really some Apple thing. Question is, now that I have a bit of an understanding of Python do I have to learn Git and therefore Bash and Linux to actually become effective in the open source online environments. Second question is if I want to build a web site and retain the code and the feel of the website as my own so that I can seek investors and advertisers how does that work in the world of open source. But more to the here and now. How do I use these tools to get Mirmar and write a Python program to send it lists that would display names, weights, foods eaten and nutrition for those foods and then be able to chose how to graph subsets of those variables against time. On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > Looking forward to some feedback on Marmir (http://brianray.github.com/mm/): > Python Powered Spreadsheets. I presented on this in the last Loop meeting > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7Oon2Bo8tE. > > Since the meeting, improved CSS-like style support, added some Django (in > contrib) and now supports Google Spreadsheet. Also put it on PyPI so would > appreciate any feedback on that, as well. > > A beer goes to anyone who adds a valid issue (defect, improvement, > feature, ...) on github https://github.com/brianray/mm/issues . IF a beer > is not sufficient carrot, I can provide a sincere thank you! Pull requests > will make you a super star. > > have fun! > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From randy7771026 at gmail.com Thu Jan 24 15:23:23 2013 From: randy7771026 at gmail.com (Randy Baxley) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 08:23:23 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Marmir Initial Feedback In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Oh and not just on their on computer but also on website were they can share that information with others and a database can be built so everyone does not have to hand input any data not already available. Then too does anyone know yet of an app for scanning either the nutrition information, bar code or that squiggley thing and getting the data to use in a program? On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Randy Baxley wrote: > I have a github account. Two days old and a Git loaded. Then there is a > Gui for Windows and a Git Bash. The Git Bash looks familiar from DOS days > but I suppose is really some Apple thing. Question is, now that I have a > bit of an understanding of Python do I have to learn Git and therefore Bash > and Linux to actually become effective in the open source online > environments. Second question is if I want to build a web site and retain > the code and the feel of the website as my own so that I can seek investors > and advertisers how does that work in the world of open source. But more > to the here and now. How do I use these tools to get Mirmar and write a > Python program to send it lists that would display names, weights, foods > eaten and nutrition for those foods and then be able to chose how to graph > subsets of those variables against time. > > > On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > >> Looking forward to some feedback on Marmir ( >> http://brianray.github.com/mm/): Python Powered Spreadsheets. I >> presented on this in the last Loop meeting >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7Oon2Bo8tE. >> >> Since the meeting, improved CSS-like style support, added some Django (in >> contrib) and now supports Google Spreadsheet. Also put it on PyPI so would >> appreciate any feedback on that, as well. >> >> A beer goes to anyone who adds a valid issue (defect, improvement, >> feature, ...) on github https://github.com/brianray/mm/issues . IF a >> beer is not sufficient carrot, I can provide a sincere thank you! Pull >> requests will make you a super star. >> >> have fun! >> >> -- >> Brian Ray >> @brianray >> (773) 669-7717 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brianhray at gmail.com Thu Jan 24 15:38:32 2013 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 08:38:32 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Marmir Initial Feedback In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8555691D-C2A1-4B1A-8D93-0C2619D25301@gmail.com> Unless you want make spreadsheets, you do not need Marmir. If you do want to play with it, you can pip install it: pip install Marmir Concerning your other wants, perhaps look at web2py or some other easy to entry framework. On Jan 24, 2013, at 8:23 AM, Randy Baxley wrote: > Oh and not just on their on computer but also on website were they can share that information with others and a database can be built so everyone does not have to hand input any data not already available. Then too does anyone know yet of an app for scanning either the nutrition information, bar code or that squiggley thing and getting the data to use in a program? > > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Randy Baxley wrote: >> I have a github account. Two days old and a Git loaded. Then there is a Gui for Windows and a Git Bash. The Git Bash looks familiar from DOS days but I suppose is really some Apple thing. Question is, now that I have a bit of an understanding of Python do I have to learn Git and therefore Bash and Linux to actually become effective in the open source online environments. Second question is if I want to build a web site and retain the code and the feel of the website as my own so that I can seek investors and advertisers how does that work in the world of open source. But more to the here and now. How do I use these tools to get Mirmar and write a Python program to send it lists that would display names, weights, foods eaten and nutrition for those foods and then be able to chose how to graph subsets of those variables against time. >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >>> Looking forward to some feedback on Marmir (http://brianray.github.com/mm/): Python Powered Spreadsheets. I presented on this in the last Loop meeting http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7Oon2Bo8tE. >>> >>> Since the meeting, improved CSS-like style support, added some Django (in contrib) and now supports Google Spreadsheet. Also put it on PyPI so would appreciate any feedback on that, as well. >>> >>> A beer goes to anyone who adds a valid issue (defect, improvement, feature, ...) on github https://github.com/brianray/mm/issues . IF a beer is not sufficient carrot, I can provide a sincere thank you! Pull requests will make you a super star. >>> >>> have fun! >>> >>> -- >>> Brian Ray >>> @brianray >>> (773) 669-7717 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From warren.lindsey at gmail.com Thu Jan 24 15:43:27 2013 From: warren.lindsey at gmail.com (Warren Lindsey) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 08:43:27 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Marmir Initial Feedback In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5D4008B7-1FD0-44C9-BC06-0545424E8201@gmail.com> Try myfitnesspal.com for this. It satisfies all of your requests and has both iOS and android apps to complement the website. On Jan 24, 2013, at 8:23 AM, Randy Baxley wrote: > Oh and not just on their on computer but also on website were they can share that information with others and a database can be built so everyone does not have to hand input any data not already available. Then too does anyone know yet of an app for scanning either the nutrition information, bar code or that squiggley thing and getting the data to use in a program? > > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Randy Baxley wrote: >> I have a github account. Two days old and a Git loaded. Then there is a Gui for Windows and a Git Bash. The Git Bash looks familiar from DOS days but I suppose is really some Apple thing. Question is, now that I have a bit of an understanding of Python do I have to learn Git and therefore Bash and Linux to actually become effective in the open source online environments. Second question is if I want to build a web site and retain the code and the feel of the website as my own so that I can seek investors and advertisers how does that work in the world of open source. But more to the here and now. How do I use these tools to get Mirmar and write a Python program to send it lists that would display names, weights, foods eaten and nutrition for those foods and then be able to chose how to graph subsets of those variables against time. >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >>> Looking forward to some feedback on Marmir (http://brianray.github.com/mm/): Python Powered Spreadsheets. I presented on this in the last Loop meeting http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7Oon2Bo8tE. >>> >>> Since the meeting, improved CSS-like style support, added some Django (in contrib) and now supports Google Spreadsheet. Also put it on PyPI so would appreciate any feedback on that, as well. >>> >>> A beer goes to anyone who adds a valid issue (defect, improvement, feature, ...) on github https://github.com/brianray/mm/issues . IF a beer is not sufficient carrot, I can provide a sincere thank you! Pull requests will make you a super star. >>> >>> have fun! >>> >>> -- >>> Brian Ray >>> @brianray >>> (773) 669-7717 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jp at zavteq.com Thu Jan 24 15:50:35 2013 From: jp at zavteq.com (JP Bader) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 08:50:35 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Marmir Initial Feedback In-Reply-To: <8555691D-C2A1-4B1A-8D93-0C2619D25301@gmail.com> References: <8555691D-C2A1-4B1A-8D93-0C2619D25301@gmail.com> Message-ID: Just to clarify, pip is a package manager tool, but you'd have to install pip as well. On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > Unless you want make spreadsheets, you do not need Marmir. > > If you do want to play with it, you can pip install it: pip install > Marmir > > Concerning your other wants, perhaps look at web2py or some other easy to > entry framework. > > > On Jan 24, 2013, at 8:23 AM, Randy Baxley wrote: > > Oh and not just on their on computer but also on website were they can > share that information with others and a database can be built so everyone > does not have to hand input any data not already available. Then too does > anyone know yet of an app for scanning either the nutrition information, > bar code or that squiggley thing and getting the data to use in a program? > > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Randy Baxley wrote: > >> I have a github account. Two days old and a Git loaded. Then there is a >> Gui for Windows and a Git Bash. The Git Bash looks familiar from DOS days >> but I suppose is really some Apple thing. Question is, now that I have a >> bit of an understanding of Python do I have to learn Git and therefore Bash >> and Linux to actually become effective in the open source online >> environments. Second question is if I want to build a web site and retain >> the code and the feel of the website as my own so that I can seek investors >> and advertisers how does that work in the world of open source. But more >> to the here and now. How do I use these tools to get Mirmar and write a >> Python program to send it lists that would display names, weights, foods >> eaten and nutrition for those foods and then be able to chose how to graph >> subsets of those variables against time. >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >> >>> Looking forward to some feedback on Marmir ( >>> http://brianray.github.com/mm/): Python Powered Spreadsheets. I >>> presented on this in the last Loop meeting >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7Oon2Bo8tE. >>> >>> Since the meeting, improved CSS-like style support, added some Django >>> (in contrib) and now supports Google Spreadsheet. Also put it on PyPI so >>> would appreciate any feedback on that, as well. >>> >>> A beer goes to anyone who adds a valid issue (defect, improvement, >>> feature, ...) on github https://github.com/brianray/mm/issues . IF a >>> beer is not sufficient carrot, I can provide a sincere thank you! Pull >>> requests will make you a super star. >>> >>> have fun! >>> >>> -- >>> Brian Ray >>> @brianray >>> (773) 669-7717 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >>> >> > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -- JP Bader Principal Zavteq, Inc. @lordB8r | jp at zavteq.com 608.692.2468 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From emperorcezar at gmail.com Thu Jan 24 15:55:30 2013 From: emperorcezar at gmail.com (Adam "Cezar" Jenkins) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 08:55:30 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Marmir Initial Feedback In-Reply-To: References: <8555691D-C2A1-4B1A-8D93-0C2619D25301@gmail.com> Message-ID: Check out the Hitchhiker's guide to python. https://python-guide.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:50 AM, JP Bader wrote: > Just to clarify, pip is a package manager tool, but you'd have to install > pip as well. > > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > >> Unless you want make spreadsheets, you do not need Marmir. >> >> If you do want to play with it, you can pip install it: pip install >> Marmir >> >> Concerning your other wants, perhaps look at web2py or some other easy to >> entry framework. >> >> >> On Jan 24, 2013, at 8:23 AM, Randy Baxley wrote: >> >> Oh and not just on their on computer but also on website were they can >> share that information with others and a database can be built so everyone >> does not have to hand input any data not already available. Then too does >> anyone know yet of an app for scanning either the nutrition information, >> bar code or that squiggley thing and getting the data to use in a program? >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Randy Baxley wrote: >> >>> I have a github account. Two days old and a Git loaded. Then there is >>> a Gui for Windows and a Git Bash. The Git Bash looks familiar from DOS >>> days but I suppose is really some Apple thing. Question is, now that I >>> have a bit of an understanding of Python do I have to learn Git and >>> therefore Bash and Linux to actually become effective in the open source >>> online environments. Second question is if I want to build a web site and >>> retain the code and the feel of the website as my own so that I can seek >>> investors and advertisers how does that work in the world of open source. >>> But more to the here and now. How do I use these tools to get Mirmar and >>> write a Python program to send it lists that would display names, weights, >>> foods eaten and nutrition for those foods and then be able to chose how to >>> graph subsets of those variables against time. >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >>> >>>> Looking forward to some feedback on Marmir ( >>>> http://brianray.github.com/mm/): Python Powered Spreadsheets. I >>>> presented on this in the last Loop meeting >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7Oon2Bo8tE. >>>> >>>> Since the meeting, improved CSS-like style support, added some Django >>>> (in contrib) and now supports Google Spreadsheet. Also put it on PyPI so >>>> would appreciate any feedback on that, as well. >>>> >>>> A beer goes to anyone who adds a valid issue (defect, improvement, >>>> feature, ...) on github https://github.com/brianray/mm/issues . IF a >>>> beer is not sufficient carrot, I can provide a sincere thank you! Pull >>>> requests will make you a super star. >>>> >>>> have fun! >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Brian Ray >>>> @brianray >>>> (773) 669-7717 >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chicago mailing list >>>> Chicago at python.org >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>>> >>>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > > > -- > JP Bader > Principal > Zavteq, Inc. > @lordB8r | jp at zavteq.com > 608.692.2468 > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From randy7771026 at gmail.com Thu Jan 24 16:09:43 2013 From: randy7771026 at gmail.com (Randy Baxley) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 09:09:43 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Marmir Initial Feedback In-Reply-To: <8555691D-C2A1-4B1A-8D93-0C2619D25301@gmail.com> References: <8555691D-C2A1-4B1A-8D93-0C2619D25301@gmail.com> Message-ID: Yes this information is normally displayed in a spreadsheet which is the first step then I would want the user to be able to decide how they want to graph it. On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > Unless you want make spreadsheets, you do not need Marmir. > > If you do want to play with it, you can pip install it: pip install > Marmir > > Concerning your other wants, perhaps look at web2py or some other easy to > entry framework. > > > On Jan 24, 2013, at 8:23 AM, Randy Baxley wrote: > > Oh and not just on their on computer but also on website were they can > share that information with others and a database can be built so everyone > does not have to hand input any data not already available. Then too does > anyone know yet of an app for scanning either the nutrition information, > bar code or that squiggley thing and getting the data to use in a program? > > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Randy Baxley wrote: > >> I have a github account. Two days old and a Git loaded. Then there is a >> Gui for Windows and a Git Bash. The Git Bash looks familiar from DOS days >> but I suppose is really some Apple thing. Question is, now that I have a >> bit of an understanding of Python do I have to learn Git and therefore Bash >> and Linux to actually become effective in the open source online >> environments. Second question is if I want to build a web site and retain >> the code and the feel of the website as my own so that I can seek investors >> and advertisers how does that work in the world of open source. But more >> to the here and now. How do I use these tools to get Mirmar and write a >> Python program to send it lists that would display names, weights, foods >> eaten and nutrition for those foods and then be able to chose how to graph >> subsets of those variables against time. >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >> >>> Looking forward to some feedback on Marmir ( >>> http://brianray.github.com/mm/): Python Powered Spreadsheets. I >>> presented on this in the last Loop meeting >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7Oon2Bo8tE. >>> >>> Since the meeting, improved CSS-like style support, added some Django >>> (in contrib) and now supports Google Spreadsheet. Also put it on PyPI so >>> would appreciate any feedback on that, as well. >>> >>> A beer goes to anyone who adds a valid issue (defect, improvement, >>> feature, ...) on github https://github.com/brianray/mm/issues . IF a >>> beer is not sufficient carrot, I can provide a sincere thank you! Pull >>> requests will make you a super star. >>> >>> have fun! >>> >>> -- >>> Brian Ray >>> @brianray >>> (773) 669-7717 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >>> >> > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shekay at pobox.com Thu Jan 24 16:31:52 2013 From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 09:31:52 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Marmir Initial Feedback In-Reply-To: References: <8555691D-C2A1-4B1A-8D93-0C2619D25301@gmail.com> Message-ID: I'll give you the same suggestions that I gave to the other person who showed up to python office hours the other day with similar questions. Yes to your question about version control and such. These are important and not just for open source developers. I enthusiastically agree with Cezar about the hitchhikers guide and have been meaning to link it for python office hours. I respectfully disagree that you need to use a spreadsheet, and will suggest other things when I'm not typing from my phone. but off the top of my head, if you really want tables and charts then you could store your records in Google tables and use Google charts. but I will disagree with using those for real. I just want to give an example of something that is spreadsheet-like to help you grok things. Since you are starting out fresh on web development I'll suggest the same that I suggested during office hours. First, get comfortable with git and command line tools and deployment by working through the heroku flask tutorial. but if the tutorial has concepts that are too unfamiliar and you need more examples then let us know and we can find or make a better tutorial. I'm going to be wanting something like this for my niece soon. On Jan 24, 2013 9:11 AM, "Randy Baxley" wrote: > Yes this information is normally displayed in a spreadsheet which is the > first step then I would want the user to be able to decide how they want to > graph it. > > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > >> Unless you want make spreadsheets, you do not need Marmir. >> >> If you do want to play with it, you can pip install it: pip install >> Marmir >> >> Concerning your other wants, perhaps look at web2py or some other easy to >> entry framework. >> >> >> On Jan 24, 2013, at 8:23 AM, Randy Baxley wrote: >> >> Oh and not just on their on computer but also on website were they can >> share that information with others and a database can be built so everyone >> does not have to hand input any data not already available. Then too does >> anyone know yet of an app for scanning either the nutrition information, >> bar code or that squiggley thing and getting the data to use in a program? >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Randy Baxley wrote: >> >>> I have a github account. Two days old and a Git loaded. Then there is >>> a Gui for Windows and a Git Bash. The Git Bash looks familiar from DOS >>> days but I suppose is really some Apple thing. Question is, now that I >>> have a bit of an understanding of Python do I have to learn Git and >>> therefore Bash and Linux to actually become effective in the open source >>> online environments. Second question is if I want to build a web site and >>> retain the code and the feel of the website as my own so that I can seek >>> investors and advertisers how does that work in the world of open source. >>> But more to the here and now. How do I use these tools to get Mirmar and >>> write a Python program to send it lists that would display names, weights, >>> foods eaten and nutrition for those foods and then be able to chose how to >>> graph subsets of those variables against time. >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >>> >>>> Looking forward to some feedback on Marmir ( >>>> http://brianray.github.com/mm/): Python Powered Spreadsheets. I >>>> presented on this in the last Loop meeting >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7Oon2Bo8tE. >>>> >>>> Since the meeting, improved CSS-like style support, added some Django >>>> (in contrib) and now supports Google Spreadsheet. Also put it on PyPI so >>>> would appreciate any feedback on that, as well. >>>> >>>> A beer goes to anyone who adds a valid issue (defect, improvement, >>>> feature, ...) on github https://github.com/brianray/mm/issues . IF a >>>> beer is not sufficient carrot, I can provide a sincere thank you! 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URL: From randy7771026 at gmail.com Thu Jan 24 16:38:04 2013 From: randy7771026 at gmail.com (Randy Baxley) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 09:38:04 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Marmir Initial Feedback In-Reply-To: <5D4008B7-1FD0-44C9-BC06-0545424E8201@gmail.com> References: <5D4008B7-1FD0-44C9-BC06-0545424E8201@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thank you for the link. I have used it, FitDay and SparkPeople over the last 10 years. Here is the reason for doing my own. NUTRITIONAL GOALSTARGETNet Calories Consumed* / Day1,550 Calories / DayCarbs / Day213 gFat / Day52 gProtein / Day58 g *Net calories consumed = total calories consumed - exercise calories burned. So the more you exercise, the more you can eat! FITNESS GOALSTARGET If you follow this plan... My body requires a lot more protein. Chosing one's own graphs allows one to tailor to their bodies needs. Friends with transplants, cancer, auto immune diseases and those taking blood thinners have their own special needs and these sites are just too tailored to the very close to perfect person. I have lost some 270 pounds eating low carb and would be dead if I ate that many carbs because my body which is different would think I had just downed 2 liters of Everclear. So I want to build one tailored to folks who eat fat and protein instead of carbs and for people who need to lose more than the two pounds a week limit. On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Warren Lindsey wrote: > Try myfitnesspal.com for this. It satisfies all of your requests and has > both iOS and android apps to complement the website. > > > On Jan 24, 2013, at 8:23 AM, Randy Baxley wrote: > > Oh and not just on their on computer but also on website were they can > share that information with others and a database can be built so everyone > does not have to hand input any data not already available. Then too does > anyone know yet of an app for scanning either the nutrition information, > bar code or that squiggley thing and getting the data to use in a program? > > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Randy Baxley wrote: > >> I have a github account. Two days old and a Git loaded. Then there is a >> Gui for Windows and a Git Bash. The Git Bash looks familiar from DOS days >> but I suppose is really some Apple thing. Question is, now that I have a >> bit of an understanding of Python do I have to learn Git and therefore Bash >> and Linux to actually become effective in the open source online >> environments. Second question is if I want to build a web site and retain >> the code and the feel of the website as my own so that I can seek investors >> and advertisers how does that work in the world of open source. But more >> to the here and now. How do I use these tools to get Mirmar and write a >> Python program to send it lists that would display names, weights, foods >> eaten and nutrition for those foods and then be able to chose how to graph >> subsets of those variables against time. >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >> >>> Looking forward to some feedback on Marmir ( >>> http://brianray.github.com/mm/): Python Powered Spreadsheets. I >>> presented on this in the last Loop meeting >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7Oon2Bo8tE. >>> >>> Since the meeting, improved CSS-like style support, added some Django >>> (in contrib) and now supports Google Spreadsheet. Also put it on PyPI so >>> would appreciate any feedback on that, as well. >>> >>> A beer goes to anyone who adds a valid issue (defect, improvement, >>> feature, ...) on github https://github.com/brianray/mm/issues . IF a >>> beer is not sufficient carrot, I can provide a sincere thank you! Pull >>> requests will make you a super star. >>> >>> have fun! >>> >>> -- >>> Brian Ray >>> @brianray >>> (773) 669-7717 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >>> >> > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From randy7771026 at gmail.com Thu Jan 24 16:40:13 2013 From: randy7771026 at gmail.com (Randy Baxley) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 09:40:13 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Marmir Initial Feedback In-Reply-To: References: <8555691D-C2A1-4B1A-8D93-0C2619D25301@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thank you for that. I was wondering why the pip did not work in Git Bash. Is there a particular pip download you would recommend? On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:50 AM, JP Bader wrote: > Just to clarify, pip is a package manager tool, but you'd have to install > pip as well. > > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > >> Unless you want make spreadsheets, you do not need Marmir. >> >> If you do want to play with it, you can pip install it: pip install >> Marmir >> >> Concerning your other wants, perhaps look at web2py or some other easy to >> entry framework. >> >> >> On Jan 24, 2013, at 8:23 AM, Randy Baxley wrote: >> >> Oh and not just on their on computer but also on website were they can >> share that information with others and a database can be built so everyone >> does not have to hand input any data not already available. Then too does >> anyone know yet of an app for scanning either the nutrition information, >> bar code or that squiggley thing and getting the data to use in a program? >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Randy Baxley wrote: >> >>> I have a github account. Two days old and a Git loaded. Then there is >>> a Gui for Windows and a Git Bash. The Git Bash looks familiar from DOS >>> days but I suppose is really some Apple thing. Question is, now that I >>> have a bit of an understanding of Python do I have to learn Git and >>> therefore Bash and Linux to actually become effective in the open source >>> online environments. Second question is if I want to build a web site and >>> retain the code and the feel of the website as my own so that I can seek >>> investors and advertisers how does that work in the world of open source. >>> But more to the here and now. How do I use these tools to get Mirmar and >>> write a Python program to send it lists that would display names, weights, >>> foods eaten and nutrition for those foods and then be able to chose how to >>> graph subsets of those variables against time. >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >>> >>>> Looking forward to some feedback on Marmir ( >>>> http://brianray.github.com/mm/): Python Powered Spreadsheets. I >>>> presented on this in the last Loop meeting >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7Oon2Bo8tE. >>>> >>>> Since the meeting, improved CSS-like style support, added some Django >>>> (in contrib) and now supports Google Spreadsheet. Also put it on PyPI so >>>> would appreciate any feedback on that, as well. >>>> >>>> A beer goes to anyone who adds a valid issue (defect, improvement, >>>> feature, ...) on github https://github.com/brianray/mm/issues . IF a >>>> beer is not sufficient carrot, I can provide a sincere thank you! Pull >>>> requests will make you a super star. >>>> >>>> have fun! >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Brian Ray >>>> @brianray >>>> (773) 669-7717 >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chicago mailing list >>>> Chicago at python.org >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>>> >>>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > > > -- > JP Bader > Principal > Zavteq, Inc. > @lordB8r | jp at zavteq.com > 608.692.2468 > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins < emperorcezar at gmail.com> wrote: > Check out the Hitchhiker's guide to python. > https://python-guide.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ > > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:50 AM, JP Bader wrote: > >> Just to clarify, pip is a package manager tool, but you'd have to install >> pip as well. >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >> >>> Unless you want make spreadsheets, you do not need Marmir. >>> >>> If you do want to play with it, you can pip install it: pip install >>> Marmir >>> >>> Concerning your other wants, perhaps look at web2py or some other easy >>> to entry framework. >>> >>> >>> On Jan 24, 2013, at 8:23 AM, Randy Baxley >>> wrote: >>> >>> Oh and not just on their on computer but also on website were they can >>> share that information with others and a database can be built so everyone >>> does not have to hand input any data not already available. Then too does >>> anyone know yet of an app for scanning either the nutrition information, >>> bar code or that squiggley thing and getting the data to use in a program? >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Randy Baxley wrote: >>> >>>> I have a github account. Two days old and a Git loaded. Then there is >>>> a Gui for Windows and a Git Bash. The Git Bash looks familiar from DOS >>>> days but I suppose is really some Apple thing. Question is, now that I >>>> have a bit of an understanding of Python do I have to learn Git and >>>> therefore Bash and Linux to actually become effective in the open source >>>> online environments. Second question is if I want to build a web site and >>>> retain the code and the feel of the website as my own so that I can seek >>>> investors and advertisers how does that work in the world of open source. >>>> But more to the here and now. How do I use these tools to get Mirmar and >>>> write a Python program to send it lists that would display names, weights, >>>> foods eaten and nutrition for those foods and then be able to chose how to >>>> graph subsets of those variables against time. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >>>> >>>>> Looking forward to some feedback on Marmir ( >>>>> http://brianray.github.com/mm/): Python Powered Spreadsheets. I >>>>> presented on this in the last Loop meeting >>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7Oon2Bo8tE. >>>>> >>>>> Since the meeting, improved CSS-like style support, added some Django >>>>> (in contrib) and now supports Google Spreadsheet. Also put it on PyPI so >>>>> would appreciate any feedback on that, as well. >>>>> >>>>> A beer goes to anyone who adds a valid issue (defect, improvement, >>>>> feature, ...) on github https://github.com/brianray/mm/issues . IF a >>>>> beer is not sufficient carrot, I can provide a sincere thank you! Pull >>>>> requests will make you a super star. >>>>> >>>>> have fun! >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Brian Ray >>>>> @brianray >>>>> (773) 669-7717 >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Chicago mailing list >>>>> Chicago at python.org >>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> JP Bader >> Principal >> Zavteq, Inc. >> @lordB8r | jp at zavteq.com >> 608.692.2468 >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From randy7771026 at gmail.com Thu Jan 24 16:58:01 2013 From: randy7771026 at gmail.com (Randy Baxley) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 09:58:01 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Marmir Initial Feedback In-Reply-To: References: <8555691D-C2A1-4B1A-8D93-0C2619D25301@gmail.com> Message-ID: TY Sheila, I was there and downloaded Heroku but got to an overload of new and layers so went off to try Google Apps where I got to the same place even though I built my own HTML sites years ago. So I went off to Dr. Chucks tutorial on Google Apps but since Mirmar and Dr. Chuck's MOOC and everything else in this world seems to be on Github I downloaded and began playing with it as well. In my spare, spare, spare time I am also going through the lectures and exercises for said MOOC and of course the lectures and exercises for the Rice Interactive Python class. On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 9:31 AM, sheila miguez wrote: > I'll give you the same suggestions that I gave to the other person who > showed up to python office hours the other day with similar questions. > > Yes to your question about version control and such. These are important > and not just for open source developers. > > I enthusiastically agree with Cezar about the hitchhikers guide and have > been meaning to link it for python office hours. > > I respectfully disagree that you need to use a spreadsheet, and will > suggest other things when I'm not typing from my phone. but off the top of > my head, if you really want tables and charts then you could store your > records in Google tables and use Google charts. but I will disagree with > using those for real. I just want to give an example of something that is > spreadsheet-like to help you grok things. > > Since you are starting out fresh on web development I'll suggest the same > that I suggested during office hours. First, get comfortable with git and > command line tools and deployment by working through the heroku flask > tutorial. but if the tutorial has concepts that are too unfamiliar and you > need more examples then let us know and we can find or make a better > tutorial. I'm going to be wanting something like this for my niece soon. > > On Jan 24, 2013 9:11 AM, "Randy Baxley" wrote: > >> Yes this information is normally displayed in a spreadsheet which is the >> first step then I would want the user to be able to decide how they want to >> graph it. >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >> >>> Unless you want make spreadsheets, you do not need Marmir. >>> >>> If you do want to play with it, you can pip install it: pip install >>> Marmir >>> >>> Concerning your other wants, perhaps look at web2py or some other easy >>> to entry framework. >>> >>> >>> On Jan 24, 2013, at 8:23 AM, Randy Baxley >>> wrote: >>> >>> Oh and not just on their on computer but also on website were they can >>> share that information with others and a database can be built so everyone >>> does not have to hand input any data not already available. Then too does >>> anyone know yet of an app for scanning either the nutrition information, >>> bar code or that squiggley thing and getting the data to use in a program? >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Randy Baxley wrote: >>> >>>> I have a github account. Two days old and a Git loaded. Then there is >>>> a Gui for Windows and a Git Bash. The Git Bash looks familiar from DOS >>>> days but I suppose is really some Apple thing. Question is, now that I >>>> have a bit of an understanding of Python do I have to learn Git and >>>> therefore Bash and Linux to actually become effective in the open source >>>> online environments. Second question is if I want to build a web site and >>>> retain the code and the feel of the website as my own so that I can seek >>>> investors and advertisers how does that work in the world of open source. >>>> But more to the here and now. How do I use these tools to get Mirmar and >>>> write a Python program to send it lists that would display names, weights, >>>> foods eaten and nutrition for those foods and then be able to chose how to >>>> graph subsets of those variables against time. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >>>> >>>>> Looking forward to some feedback on Marmir ( >>>>> http://brianray.github.com/mm/): Python Powered Spreadsheets. I >>>>> presented on this in the last Loop meeting >>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7Oon2Bo8tE. >>>>> >>>>> Since the meeting, improved CSS-like style support, added some Django >>>>> (in contrib) and now supports Google Spreadsheet. Also put it on PyPI so >>>>> would appreciate any feedback on that, as well. >>>>> >>>>> A beer goes to anyone who adds a valid issue (defect, improvement, >>>>> feature, ...) on github https://github.com/brianray/mm/issues . IF a >>>>> beer is not sufficient carrot, I can provide a sincere thank you! Pull >>>>> requests will make you a super star. >>>>> >>>>> have fun! >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Brian Ray >>>>> @brianray >>>>> (773) 669-7717 >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Chicago mailing list >>>>> Chicago at python.org >>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shekay at pobox.com Thu Jan 24 17:06:13 2013 From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 10:06:13 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Marmir Initial Feedback In-Reply-To: References: <8555691D-C2A1-4B1A-8D93-0C2619D25301@gmail.com> Message-ID: What is RTMS? Read the manuscript? I think for hitchhikers I would say remember, "Don't Panic". On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Randy Baxley wrote: > Thank you Cezar. Always, always, always RTMS. And also always fun when you > find THE manual that makes things click for you. > > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins > wrote: >> >> Check out the Hitchhiker's guide to python. >> https://python-guide.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:50 AM, JP Bader wrote: >>> >>> Just to clarify, pip is a package manager tool, but you'd have to install >>> pip as well. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >>>> >>>> Unless you want make spreadsheets, you do not need Marmir. >>>> >>>> If you do want to play with it, you can pip install it: pip install >>>> Marmir >>>> >>>> Concerning your other wants, perhaps look at web2py or some other easy >>>> to entry framework. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jan 24, 2013, at 8:23 AM, Randy Baxley >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Oh and not just on their on computer but also on website were they can >>>> share that information with others and a database can be built so everyone >>>> does not have to hand input any data not already available. Then too does >>>> anyone know yet of an app for scanning either the nutrition information, bar >>>> code or that squiggley thing and getting the data to use in a program? >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Randy Baxley >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I have a github account. Two days old and a Git loaded. Then there is >>>>> a Gui for Windows and a Git Bash. The Git Bash looks familiar from DOS days >>>>> but I suppose is really some Apple thing. Question is, now that I have a >>>>> bit of an understanding of Python do I have to learn Git and therefore Bash >>>>> and Linux to actually become effective in the open source online >>>>> environments. Second question is if I want to build a web site and retain >>>>> the code and the feel of the website as my own so that I can seek investors >>>>> and advertisers how does that work in the world of open source. But more to >>>>> the here and now. How do I use these tools to get Mirmar and write a Python >>>>> program to send it lists that would display names, weights, foods eaten and >>>>> nutrition for those foods and then be able to chose how to graph subsets of >>>>> those variables against time. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Brian Ray >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Looking forward to some feedback on Marmir >>>>>> (http://brianray.github.com/mm/): Python Powered Spreadsheets. I presented >>>>>> on this in the last Loop meeting http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7Oon2Bo8tE. >>>>>> >>>>>> Since the meeting, improved CSS-like style support, added some Django >>>>>> (in contrib) and now supports Google Spreadsheet. Also put it on PyPI so >>>>>> would appreciate any feedback on that, as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> A beer goes to anyone who adds a valid issue (defect, improvement, >>>>>> feature, ...) on github https://github.com/brianray/mm/issues . IF a beer is >>>>>> not sufficient carrot, I can provide a sincere thank you! Pull requests will >>>>>> make you a super star. >>>>>> >>>>>> have fun! >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Brian Ray >>>>>> @brianray >>>>>> (773) 669-7717 >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Chicago mailing list >>>>>> Chicago at python.org >>>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chicago mailing list >>>> Chicago at python.org >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chicago mailing list >>>> Chicago at python.org >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> JP Bader >>> Principal >>> Zavteq, Inc. >>> @lordB8r | jp at zavteq.com >>> 608.692.2468 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- sheila From randy7771026 at gmail.com Thu Jan 24 17:13:24 2013 From: randy7771026 at gmail.com (Randy Baxley) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 10:13:24 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Marmir Initial Feedback In-Reply-To: References: <8555691D-C2A1-4B1A-8D93-0C2619D25301@gmail.com> Message-ID: RTMS is the legacy system guys mantra and stands for read the manual stupid. On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:06 AM, sheila miguez wrote: > What is RTMS? Read the manuscript? > > I think for hitchhikers I would say remember, "Don't Panic". > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Randy Baxley > wrote: > > Thank you Cezar. Always, always, always RTMS. And also always fun when > you > > find THE manual that makes things click for you. > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins > > wrote: > >> > >> Check out the Hitchhiker's guide to python. > >> https://python-guide.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:50 AM, JP Bader wrote: > >>> > >>> Just to clarify, pip is a package manager tool, but you'd have to > install > >>> pip as well. > >>> > >>> > >>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Brian Ray > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Unless you want make spreadsheets, you do not need Marmir. > >>>> > >>>> If you do want to play with it, you can pip install it: pip install > >>>> Marmir > >>>> > >>>> Concerning your other wants, perhaps look at web2py or some other easy > >>>> to entry framework. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Jan 24, 2013, at 8:23 AM, Randy Baxley > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Oh and not just on their on computer but also on website were they can > >>>> share that information with others and a database can be built so > everyone > >>>> does not have to hand input any data not already available. Then too > does > >>>> anyone know yet of an app for scanning either the nutrition > information, bar > >>>> code or that squiggley thing and getting the data to use in a program? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Randy Baxley > > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> I have a github account. Two days old and a Git loaded. Then there > is > >>>>> a Gui for Windows and a Git Bash. The Git Bash looks familiar from > DOS days > >>>>> but I suppose is really some Apple thing. Question is, now that I > have a > >>>>> bit of an understanding of Python do I have to learn Git and > therefore Bash > >>>>> and Linux to actually become effective in the open source online > >>>>> environments. Second question is if I want to build a web site and > retain > >>>>> the code and the feel of the website as my own so that I can seek > investors > >>>>> and advertisers how does that work in the world of open source. But > more to > >>>>> the here and now. How do I use these tools to get Mirmar and write > a Python > >>>>> program to send it lists that would display names, weights, foods > eaten and > >>>>> nutrition for those foods and then be able to chose how to graph > subsets of > >>>>> those variables against time. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Brian Ray > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Looking forward to some feedback on Marmir > >>>>>> (http://brianray.github.com/mm/): Python Powered Spreadsheets. I > presented > >>>>>> on this in the last Loop meeting > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7Oon2Bo8tE. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Since the meeting, improved CSS-like style support, added some > Django > >>>>>> (in contrib) and now supports Google Spreadsheet. Also put it on > PyPI so > >>>>>> would appreciate any feedback on that, as well. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> A beer goes to anyone who adds a valid issue (defect, improvement, > >>>>>> feature, ...) on github https://github.com/brianray/mm/issues . IF > a beer is > >>>>>> not sufficient carrot, I can provide a sincere thank you! Pull > requests will > >>>>>> make you a super star. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> have fun! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Brian Ray > >>>>>> @brianray > >>>>>> (773) 669-7717 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> Chicago mailing list > >>>>>> Chicago at python.org > >>>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Chicago mailing list > >>>> Chicago at python.org > >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Chicago mailing list > >>>> Chicago at python.org > >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> JP Bader > >>> Principal > >>> Zavteq, Inc. > >>> @lordB8r | jp at zavteq.com > >>> 608.692.2468 > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Chicago mailing list > >>> Chicago at python.org > >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >>> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Chicago mailing list > >> Chicago at python.org > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > > -- > sheila > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shekay at pobox.com Thu Jan 24 17:17:34 2013 From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 10:17:34 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] aaronsw memorial hackathon documentation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Sean Farley wrote: > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 9:40 AM, sheila miguez wrote: [...] >> I have a gist where I've collected ideas for a hacknight. >> >> https://gist.github.com/4596404 >> >> I might have some more organized assistance for open science related >> projects due to another mailing list I'm on. >> >> Specifically, a member on that list is with Mendeley and can provide >> guidance on open source projects that use their APIs. I've sent him an email >> about some of the repos in their github account to check which projects >> might have more need of hacking than others. hopefully they'll have a chance >> to get back with me on that. I have an ACK already. > > Oooo, that sounds really interesting to me. Please let me know more about this. I'll be updating about it on the gist when I learn more. For the moment I know about their git repo and their dev portal. In the email I asked if he knew whether his devs had any high priority requests. He said he would be talking to them and getting back to me. https://github.com/Mendeley http://apidocs.mendeley.com/ I have mixed feelings about Mendeley due to the possible buy out by Elsevier. Maybe it is akin to how people feel when google buys a company? On the other hand, a lot of scientists use the tool and I would like to help the population of scientists. And, if devs in Mendeley have requests and are willing to talk to me, I appreciate that and it would help for a hack night. And, they do have open source tools that interact with their api. -- sheila From special.kevin at gmail.com Thu Jan 24 18:05:50 2013 From: special.kevin at gmail.com (Kevin Harriss) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 11:05:50 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Marmir Initial Feedback In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If you really want to help contribute to an open source project or even just better manage your side projects I would strongly recommend learning Git. However, to learn Git doesn't mean you need to learn Bash and/or Linux. There are some GUI clients for Git on Windows to help keep you from the command line. If you are only interacting via GitHub for projects then I would check out the Windows GitHub client[1]. Also below are some good links for learning more about git. Kevin [1] https://help.github.com/articles/set-up-git#platform-windows [2] http://gitimmersion.com/ [3] http://try.github.com/ [4] http://blip.tv/open-source-developers-conference/git-for-ages-4-and-up-4460524 On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Randy Baxley wrote: > I have a github account. Two days old and a Git loaded. Then there is a > Gui for Windows and a Git Bash. The Git Bash looks familiar from DOS days > but I suppose is really some Apple thing. Question is, now that I have a > bit of an understanding of Python do I have to learn Git and therefore Bash > and Linux to actually become effective in the open source online > environments. Second question is if I want to build a web site and retain > the code and the feel of the website as my own so that I can seek investors > and advertisers how does that work in the world of open source. But more > to the here and now. How do I use these tools to get Mirmar and write a > Python program to send it lists that would display names, weights, foods > eaten and nutrition for those foods and then be able to chose how to graph > subsets of those variables against time. > > > On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > >> Looking forward to some feedback on Marmir ( >> http://brianray.github.com/mm/): Python Powered Spreadsheets. I >> presented on this in the last Loop meeting >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7Oon2Bo8tE. >> >> Since the meeting, improved CSS-like style support, added some Django (in >> contrib) and now supports Google Spreadsheet. Also put it on PyPI so would >> appreciate any feedback on that, as well. >> >> A beer goes to anyone who adds a valid issue (defect, improvement, >> feature, ...) on github https://github.com/brianray/mm/issues . IF a >> beer is not sufficient carrot, I can provide a sincere thank you! Pull >> requests will make you a super star. >> >> have fun! >> >> -- >> Brian Ray >> @brianray >> (773) 669-7717 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jordanb at hafd.org Thu Jan 24 18:11:51 2013 From: jordanb at hafd.org (Jordan Bettis) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 11:11:51 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Marmir Initial Feedback In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <51016B57.6040508@hafd.org> Of course git is just hg for neckbeards. :p On 01/24/2013 11:05 AM, Kevin Harriss wrote: > If you really want to help contribute to an open source project or even > just better manage your side projects I would strongly recommend > learning Git. However, to learn Git doesn't mean you need to learn Bash > and/or Linux. There are some GUI clients for Git on Windows to help keep > you from the command line. If you are only interacting via GitHub for > projects then I would check out the Windows GitHub client[1]. Also below > are some good links for learning more about git. > > Kevin > > [1] https://help.github.com/articles/set-up-git#platform-windows > [2] http://gitimmersion.com/ > [3] http://try.github.com/ > [4] http://blip.tv/open-source-developers-conference/git-for-ages-4-and-up-4460524 > > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Randy Baxley > wrote: > > I have a github account. Two days old and a Git loaded. Then there > is a Gui for Windows and a Git Bash. The Git Bash looks familiar > from DOS days but I suppose is really some Apple thing. Question > is, now that I have a bit of an understanding of Python do I have to > learn Git and therefore Bash and Linux to actually become effective > in the open source online environments. Second question is if I > want to build a web site and retain the code and the feel of the > website as my own so that I can seek investors and advertisers how > does that work in the world of open source. But more to the here > and now. How do I use these tools to get Mirmar and write a Python > program to send it lists that would display names, weights, foods > eaten and nutrition for those foods and then be able to chose how to > graph subsets of those variables against time. > > > On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Brian Ray > wrote: > > Looking forward to some feedback on Marmir > (http://brianray.github.com/mm/): Python Powered Spreadsheets. I > presented on this in the last Loop > meeting http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7Oon2Bo8tE. > > Since the meeting, improved CSS-like style support, added some > Django (in contrib) and now supports Google Spreadsheet. Also > put it on PyPI so would appreciate any feedback on that, as well. > > A beer goes to anyone who adds a valid issue (defect, > improvement, feature, ...) on > github https://github.com/brianray/mm/issues . IF a beer is not > sufficient carrot, I can provide a sincere thank you! Pull > requests will make you a super star. > > have fun! > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago From randy7771026 at gmail.com Thu Jan 24 18:18:45 2013 From: randy7771026 at gmail.com (Randy Baxley) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 11:18:45 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Marmir Initial Feedback Message-ID: And I thought I was up to date on folksy language. Shut my mouth and slap me silly though if I know what that means. On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Jordan Bettis wrote: > > Of course git is just hg for neckbeards. :p > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sean.michael.farley at gmail.com Thu Jan 24 18:11:34 2013 From: sean.michael.farley at gmail.com (Sean Farley) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 11:11:34 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] aaronsw memorial hackathon documentation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:17 AM, sheila miguez wrote: > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Sean Farley > wrote: >> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 9:40 AM, sheila miguez wrote: > [...] >>> I have a gist where I've collected ideas for a hacknight. >>> >>> https://gist.github.com/4596404 >>> >>> I might have some more organized assistance for open science related >>> projects due to another mailing list I'm on. >>> >>> Specifically, a member on that list is with Mendeley and can provide >>> guidance on open source projects that use their APIs. I've sent him an email >>> about some of the repos in their github account to check which projects >>> might have more need of hacking than others. hopefully they'll have a chance >>> to get back with me on that. I have an ACK already. >> >> Oooo, that sounds really interesting to me. Please let me know more about this. > > I'll be updating about it on the gist when I learn more. For the > moment I know about their git repo and their dev portal. In the email > I asked if he knew whether his devs had any high priority requests. He > said he would be talking to them and getting back to me. > > https://github.com/Mendeley > http://apidocs.mendeley.com/ Excellent, thanks for the info. > I have mixed feelings about Mendeley due to the possible buy out by > Elsevier. That would be a huge disappointment. > Maybe it is akin to how people feel when google buys a > company? Absolutely not. Elsevier is purely evil and that is all I will say about them on a public list. > On the other hand, a lot of scientists use the tool and I > would like to help the population of scientists. And, if devs in > Mendeley have requests and are willing to talk to me, I appreciate > that and it would help for a hack night. And, they do have open source > tools that interact with their api. We will have to see. I've heard of other apis and whatnot and this meeting might be a good reason for me to investigate those more thoroughly. From brianhray at gmail.com Thu Jan 24 18:19:45 2013 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 11:19:45 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] New Venue: The Onion Message-ID: America's Finest News Source has offered to host in March or April. They are in River North, 730 N Franklin, just South of Chicago Ave. It would be the Third (yes I am moving it this one time only!) Thursday in March or the Second Thursday in April. 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Thursday in > March or the Second Thursday in April. > > Can I see some +1 love for The Onion! > > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alex.gaynor at gmail.com Thu Jan 24 18:30:45 2013 From: alex.gaynor at gmail.com (Alex Gaynor) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 11:30:45 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] New Venue: The Onion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Won't be in town (sad face), but I'd be remiss if I didn't +1 the onion! Alex On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Adam Forsyth wrote: > +1 > > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > >> America's Finest News Source has offered to host in March or April. They >> are in River North, 730 N Franklin, just South of Chicago Ave. >> >> It would be the Third (yes I am moving it this one time only!) 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Thursday >> in March or the Second Thursday in April. >> >> Can I see some +1 love for The Onion! >> >> >> -- >> Brian Ray >> @brianray >> (773) 669-7717 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -- epton.org (w)ebsite abe.epton.org (b)log @aepton (t)witter -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From orblivion at gmail.com Thu Jan 24 18:31:22 2013 From: orblivion at gmail.com (Dan Krol) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 09:31:22 -0800 Subject: [Chicago] New Venue: The Onion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Oh damn. Now I wish I was still in Chicago. On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Adam Forsyth wrote: > +1 > > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >> >> America's Finest News Source has offered to host in March or April. They >> are in River North, 730 N Franklin, just South of Chicago Ave. >> >> It would be the Third (yes I am moving it this one time only!) Thursday in >> March or the Second Thursday in April. >> >> Can I see some +1 love for The Onion! >> >> >> -- >> Brian Ray >> @brianray >> (773) 669-7717 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > From sean.michael.farley at gmail.com Thu Jan 24 18:32:14 2013 From: sean.michael.farley at gmail.com (Sean Farley) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 11:32:14 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] New Venue: The Onion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > America's Finest News Source has offered to host in March or April. They are > in River North, 730 N Franklin, just South of Chicago Ave. > > It would be the Third (yes I am moving it this one time only!) Thursday in > March or the Second Thursday in April. > > Can I see some +1 love for The Onion! Most blokes, you know, will be plussing at one ? where can you go from there? Where? Nowhere. Exactly. +11 From johnstoner2 at gmail.com Thu Jan 24 18:34:10 2013 From: johnstoner2 at gmail.com (John Stoner) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 11:34:10 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] New Venue: The Onion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: +111 On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Sean Farley wrote: > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > > America's Finest News Source has offered to host in March or April. They > are > > in River North, 730 N Franklin, just South of Chicago Ave. > > > > It would be the Third (yes I am moving it this one time only!) Thursday > in > > March or the Second Thursday in April. > > > > Can I see some +1 love for The Onion! > > Most blokes, you know, will be plussing at one ? where can you go from > there? Where? Nowhere. Exactly. +11 > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- blogs: http://johnstoner.wordpress.com/ 'In knowledge is power; in wisdom, humility.' -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jp at zavteq.com Thu Jan 24 18:37:12 2013 From: jp at zavteq.com (JP Bader) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 11:37:12 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] New Venue: The Onion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: +1 On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:34 AM, John Stoner wrote: > +111 > > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Sean Farley < > sean.michael.farley at gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >> > America's Finest News Source has offered to host in March or April. >> They are >> > in River North, 730 N Franklin, just South of Chicago Ave. >> > >> > It would be the Third (yes I am moving it this one time only!) Thursday >> in >> > March or the Second Thursday in April. >> > >> > Can I see some +1 love for The Onion! >> >> Most blokes, you know, will be plussing at one ? where can you go from >> there? Where? Nowhere. Exactly. +11 >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > > > -- > blogs: > http://johnstoner.wordpress.com/ > 'In knowledge is power; in wisdom, humility.' > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -- JP Bader Principal Zavteq, Inc. @lordB8r | jp at zavteq.com 608.692.2468 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shekay at pobox.com Thu Jan 24 18:37:59 2013 From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 11:37:59 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] aaronsw memorial hackathon documentation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Sean Farley wrote: > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:17 AM, sheila miguez wrote: [...] >> I have mixed feelings about Mendeley due to the possible buy out by >> Elsevier. > > That would be a huge disappointment. > >> Maybe it is akin to how people feel when google buys a >> company? > > Absolutely not. Elsevier is purely evil and that is all I will say > about them on a public list. Well, there are other tools we could look at. I wasn't sure how ambivalent to be. I didn't know if it would be like Google getting etherpad, or like yahoo getting delicious, or like twitter getting twitter and killing use of its api by third party clients. >> On the other hand, a lot of scientists use the tool and I >> would like to help the population of scientists. And, if devs in >> Mendeley have requests and are willing to talk to me, I appreciate >> that and it would help for a hack night. And, they do have open source >> tools that interact with their api. > > We will have to see. I've heard of other apis and whatnot and this > meeting might be a good reason for me to investigate those more > thoroughly. Yeah, I tried to list alternatives in the gist, and I've also been trying to follow discussions here and there and in the other mailing list and have bookmarked some of what I've found. check #mendelete on twitter, for some example commentary https://plus.google.com/u/0/117663015413546257905/posts/NqpsAJHYHHp for a g+ discussion -- sheila From brianhray at gmail.com Thu Jan 24 18:41:55 2013 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 11:41:55 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] New Venue: The Onion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: oh myyyy! can I get a -1? I think it is fair to say the your initial response just caused a buffer overflow. On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:37 AM, JP Bader wrote: > +1 > > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:34 AM, John Stoner wrote: > >> +111 >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Sean Farley < >> sean.michael.farley at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >>> > America's Finest News Source has offered to host in March or April. >>> They are >>> > in River North, 730 N Franklin, just South of Chicago Ave. >>> > >>> > It would be the Third (yes I am moving it this one time only!) >>> Thursday in >>> > March or the Second Thursday in April. >>> > >>> > Can I see some +1 love for The Onion! >>> >>> Most blokes, you know, will be plussing at one ? where can you go from >>> there? Where? Nowhere. Exactly. +11 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> blogs: >> http://johnstoner.wordpress.com/ >> 'In knowledge is power; in wisdom, humility.' >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > > > -- > JP Bader > Principal > Zavteq, Inc. > @lordB8r | jp at zavteq.com > 608.692.2468 > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -- Brian Ray @brianray (773) 669-7717 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thursday in >>> March or the Second Thursday in April. >>> >>> Can I see some +1 love for The Onion! >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Brian Ray >>> @brianray >>> (773) 669-7717 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago From orblivion at gmail.com Thu Jan 24 18:43:39 2013 From: orblivion at gmail.com (Dan Krol) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 09:43:39 -0800 Subject: [Chicago] New Venue: The Onion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Area Nerd Excited About Parody Newspaper On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > oh myyyy! can I get a -1? I think it is fair to say the your initial > response just caused a buffer overflow. > > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:37 AM, JP Bader wrote: >> >> +1 >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:34 AM, John Stoner >> wrote: >>> >>> +111 >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Sean Farley >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >>>> > America's Finest News Source has offered to host in March or April. >>>> > They are >>>> > in River North, 730 N Franklin, just South of Chicago Ave. >>>> > >>>> > It would be the Third (yes I am moving it this one time only!) >>>> > Thursday in >>>> > March or the Second Thursday in April. >>>> > >>>> > Can I see some +1 love for The Onion! >>>> >>>> Most blokes, you know, will be plussing at one ? where can you go from >>>> there? Where? Nowhere. Exactly. +11 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chicago mailing list >>>> Chicago at python.org >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> blogs: >>> http://johnstoner.wordpress.com/ >>> 'In knowledge is power; in wisdom, humility.' >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> JP Bader >> Principal >> Zavteq, Inc. >> @lordB8r | jp at zavteq.com >> 608.692.2468 >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > From wilson.tamarrie at gmail.com Thu Jan 24 18:47:44 2013 From: wilson.tamarrie at gmail.com (T Wilson) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 11:47:44 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] New Venue: The Onion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I graduate around that time so I will finally be able to make a meeting. lol On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Dan Krol wrote: > Area Nerd Excited About Parody Newspaper > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > > oh myyyy! can I get a -1? I think it is fair to say the your initial > > response just caused a buffer overflow. > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:37 AM, JP Bader wrote: > >> > >> +1 > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:34 AM, John Stoner > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> +111 > >>> > >>> > >>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Sean Farley > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Brian Ray > wrote: > >>>> > America's Finest News Source has offered to host in March or April. > >>>> > They are > >>>> > in River North, 730 N Franklin, just South of Chicago Ave. > >>>> > > >>>> > It would be the Third (yes I am moving it this one time only!) > >>>> > Thursday in > >>>> > March or the Second Thursday in April. > >>>> > > >>>> > Can I see some +1 love for The Onion! > >>>> > >>>> Most blokes, you know, will be plussing at one ? where can you go from > >>>> there? Where? Nowhere. Exactly. +11 > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Chicago mailing list > >>>> Chicago at python.org > >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> blogs: > >>> http://johnstoner.wordpress.com/ > >>> 'In knowledge is power; in wisdom, humility.' > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Chicago mailing list > >>> Chicago at python.org > >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> JP Bader > >> Principal > >> Zavteq, Inc. > >> @lordB8r | jp at zavteq.com > >> 608.692.2468 > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Chicago mailing list > >> Chicago at python.org > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Brian Ray > > @brianray > > (773) 669-7717 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I think it is fair to say the your initial >> > response just caused a buffer overflow. >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:37 AM, JP Bader wrote: >> >> >> >> +1 >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:34 AM, John Stoner >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> +111 >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Sean Farley >> >>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Brian Ray >> wrote: >> >>>> > America's Finest News Source has offered to host in March or April. >> >>>> > They are >> >>>> > in River North, 730 N Franklin, just South of Chicago Ave. >> >>>> > >> >>>> > It would be the Third (yes I am moving it this one time only!) >> >>>> > Thursday in >> >>>> > March or the Second Thursday in April. >> >>>> > >> >>>> > Can I see some +1 love for The Onion! >> >>>> >> >>>> Most blokes, you know, will be plussing at one ? where can you go >> from >> >>>> there? Where? Nowhere. Exactly. +11 >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> Chicago mailing list >> >>>> Chicago at python.org >> >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> blogs: >> >>> http://johnstoner.wordpress.com/ >> >>> 'In knowledge is power; in wisdom, humility.' >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Chicago mailing list >> >>> Chicago at python.org >> >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> JP Bader >> >> Principal >> >> Zavteq, Inc. >> >> @lordB8r | jp at zavteq.com >> >> 608.692.2468 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Chicago mailing list >> >> Chicago at python.org >> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Brian Ray >> > @brianray >> > (773) 669-7717 >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Chicago mailing list >> > Chicago at python.org >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -- Brian Ray @brianray (773) 669-7717 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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[0] http://www.theonion.com/articles/biden-scores-800-feet-of-copper-wire,31013/ From danieltpeters at gmail.com Thu Jan 24 20:22:38 2013 From: danieltpeters at gmail.com (Daniel Peters) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 13:22:38 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] New Venue: The Onion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: holy god +1 On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Brian Curtin wrote: > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > > America's Finest News Source has offered to host in March or April. They > are > > in River North, 730 N Franklin, just South of Chicago Ave. > > > > It would be the Third (yes I am moving it this one time only!) Thursday > in > > March or the Second Thursday in April. > > > > Can I see some +1 love for The Onion! > > Can they write an article about Diamond Joe[0] attending the meeting? > > [0] > http://www.theonion.com/articles/biden-scores-800-feet-of-copper-wire,31013/ > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I think it is fair to say the your initial > response just caused a buffer overflow. > > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:37 AM, JP Bader wrote: > >> +1 >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:34 AM, John Stoner wrote: >> >>> +111 >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Sean Farley < >>> sean.michael.farley at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Brian Ray >>>> wrote: >>>> > America's Finest News Source has offered to host in March or April. >>>> They are >>>> > in River North, 730 N Franklin, just South of Chicago Ave. >>>> > >>>> > It would be the Third (yes I am moving it this one time only!) >>>> Thursday in >>>> > March or the Second Thursday in April. >>>> > >>>> > Can I see some +1 love for The Onion! >>>> >>>> Most blokes, you know, will be plussing at one ? where can you go from >>>> there? Where? Nowhere. Exactly. +11 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chicago mailing list >>>> Chicago at python.org >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> blogs: >>> http://johnstoner.wordpress.com/ >>> 'In knowledge is power; in wisdom, humility.' >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> JP Bader >> Principal >> Zavteq, Inc. >> @lordB8r | jp at zavteq.com >> 608.692.2468 >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Could be responsible for designing user interfaces where "user interface" isn't *exactly* making an ecommerce website that will get more conversions, but a complex information problem where the problem is a difficult information presentation that might as well have been inspired by Tufte, where I am responsible for a user interface that will let a user find a needle in a haystack. Could be something else. Do any of you have a niche that I might fill? -- [image: Christos Jonathan Hayward] Christos Jonathan Hayward, an Orthodox Christian author. *Amazon * ? Author Bio ? *Email * ? Facebook ? Fan Page ? Google Plus ? LinkedIn ? *Professional * ? Twitter ? *Web * ? What's New? If you read just *one* of my books, you'll want *The Best of Jonathan's Corner *. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I think it is fair to say the your initial >> response just caused a buffer overflow. >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:37 AM, JP Bader wrote: >> >>> +1 >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:34 AM, John Stoner wrote: >>> >>>> +111 >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Sean Farley < >>>> sean.michael.farley at gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Brian Ray >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > America's Finest News Source has offered to host in March or April. >>>>> They are >>>>> > in River North, 730 N Franklin, just South of Chicago Ave. >>>>> > >>>>> > It would be the Third (yes I am moving it this one time only!) >>>>> Thursday in >>>>> > March or the Second Thursday in April. >>>>> > >>>>> > Can I see some +1 love for The Onion! >>>>> >>>>> Most blokes, you know, will be plussing at one ? where can you go from >>>>> there? Where? Nowhere. Exactly. +11 >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Chicago mailing list >>>>> Chicago at python.org >>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> blogs: >>>> http://johnstoner.wordpress.com/ >>>> 'In knowledge is power; in wisdom, humility.' >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chicago mailing list >>>> Chicago at python.org >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> JP Bader >>> Principal >>> Zavteq, Inc. >>> @lordB8r | jp at zavteq.com >>> 608.692.2468 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Brian Ray >> @brianray >> (773) 669-7717 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Key Duties and Responsibilities: - Write Python, HTML, and occasionally SQL code - Work within a SCRUM/agile development process - Identify and troubleshoot bugs - Keep up to date with interesting new developments and solutions in the web development world Job Requirements: - Minimum of two years professional software development experience - Familiarity with web application development - Expertise in developing web applications using a modern web framework, preferably Django/Python - Familiarity with HTML, javascript, and SQL - Strong troubleshooting and analytical skills - Ability to work with internal customers - Ability to commute to the Chicago Loop - Willingness to occasionally handle emergency troubleshooting **Don't be dissuaded if you're not yet a Python or Django guru! Help will be provided to get you up to speed. Anyone with experience building web applications on a modern framework (eg Ruby on Rails) is welcome to apply. 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You will work on all aspects of development from database design to > Django development to browser UI development. The Python/Django Software > Engineer will use SCRUM as a development methodology. **** > > *Key Duties and Responsibilities:***** > > - Write Python, HTML, and occasionally SQL code**** > > - Work within a SCRUM/agile development process**** > > - Identify and troubleshoot bugs**** > > - Keep up to date with interesting new developments and solutions in the > web development world**** > > *Job Requirements:***** > > - Minimum of two years professional software development experience**** > > - Familiarity with web application development**** > > - Expertise in developing web applications using a modern web framework, > preferably Django/Python**** > > - Familiarity with HTML, javascript, and SQL**** > > - Strong troubleshooting and analytical skills**** > > - Ability to work with internal customers**** > > - Ability to commute to the Chicago Loop**** > > - Willingness to occasionally handle emergency troubleshooting**** > > ***Don't be dissuaded if you're not yet a Python or Django guru! Help > will be provided to get you up to speed. Anyone with experience building > web applications on a modern framework (eg Ruby on Rails) is welcome to > apply.***** > > EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYER - M/F/D/V**** > > ** ** > > Email your resume to jmedeiros at innovargroup.com for immediate > consideration!**** > > ** ** > > Jennifer Medeiros**** > > Technical Recruiter**** > > [image: cid:image006.jpg at 01CDBCF3.99BEB720] > Inc. 500 - Fastest Growing Five Time Awardee **** > > ** ** > > [image: Description: Description: Description: > cid:image003.jpg at 01CBFAC5.63B86000] > [image: > https://twitter.com/images/resources/twitter-bird-white-on-blue.png] > **** > > ** ** > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Randy Baxley wrote: > Brian / Cezar, > > I think this may be something I should at least interview for. > > Randy > > > On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Jennifer Medeiros < > jmedeiros at innovargroup.com> wrote: > >> Innovar Group is in need of a Python/Django Software Engineer for a >> valued client in Chicago, IL. This is a permanent opportunity with a >> company offering a competitive salary package and strong benefits including >> medical, dental, and vision; 401K with company match, paid holidays and >> vacation. Our client's platform is based on Django and hosted in the >> cloud. You will work on all aspects of development from database design to >> Django development to browser UI development. The Python/Django Software >> Engineer will use SCRUM as a development methodology. **** >> >> *Key Duties and Responsibilities:***** >> >> - Write Python, HTML, and occasionally SQL code**** >> >> - Work within a SCRUM/agile development process**** >> >> - Identify and troubleshoot bugs**** >> >> - Keep up to date with interesting new developments and solutions in the >> web development world**** >> >> *Job Requirements:***** >> >> - Minimum of two years professional software development experience**** >> >> - Familiarity with web application development**** >> >> - Expertise in developing web applications using a modern web framework, >> preferably Django/Python**** >> >> - Familiarity with HTML, javascript, and SQL**** >> >> - Strong troubleshooting and analytical skills**** >> >> - Ability to work with internal customers**** >> >> - Ability to commute to the Chicago Loop**** >> >> - Willingness to occasionally handle emergency troubleshooting**** >> >> ***Don't be dissuaded if you're not yet a Python or Django guru! 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Sensational title aside, this presentation details the work I've done to "parallelize" the Python interpreter; allowing Python code to exploit all CPU cores without impeding normal single-threaded performance. (This work is comparable to previous attempts to remove the GIL with fine-grained locking, as well as the STM work being done in PyPy. My approach differs from both: I don't remove the GIL nor do I introduce fine-grained locking (which is why single-threaded execution doesn't take a performance hit).) This would be a very technical presentation. There's even a bit of assembly language involved (well, compiler intrinsics, at least). However, it's a pretty cool topic, so even if you don't grok the low-level CPython internal stuff, there will be lots of other interesting stuff at a higher level. Look forward to meeting you all! (Chicago is probably my favourite city in the US.) Regards, Trent. From randy7771026 at gmail.com Mon Jan 28 23:29:03 2013 From: randy7771026 at gmail.com (Randy Baxley) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:29:03 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Failing Fast Message-ID: I am actually at a point where you folks have likely gotten me to a point of sources of information that will eventually take the failings I currently have, at least those related to Python, and turn them into strengths. For this I thank you. I took a short break from Interactive Python being offered on Coursera through the Rice group to work through Dr-Chuck's MOOC. I am happy with my basic knowledge of Python now and it will soon be time to add a knowledge of math, science, graphic and display libraries as well as some better idioms for inits and reinits. PONG is ugly as far as code goes but in a good form for two people to play who do not mind starting, stopping and restarting it without the button. http://www.codeskulptor.org/#user8-paYp6vO6lS-23.py If this messy post and code brings to anyones mind very succinct references to libraries, algorithms and idioms please let me know. Now, to asteroids and beyond. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carl at personnelware.com Tue Jan 29 00:48:47 2013 From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:48:47 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Failing Fast In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Randy Baxley wrote: > PONG is ugly as far as code goes but in a good form for two people to play > who do not mind starting, stopping and restarting it without the button. > > http://www.codeskulptor.org/#user8-paYp6vO6lS-23.py fun! Any chance of a 1 player version? What comes to mind is player1.Y = ball.Y And I found a neat bug: the serve went straight up, so now I have a ball bouncing up and down and not coming at me. It is yellow if that helps any. -- Carl K From randy7771026 at gmail.com Tue Jan 29 01:10:02 2013 From: randy7771026 at gmail.com (Randy Baxley) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 18:10:02 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Failing Fast In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have given some thought to the one player game but of course know that I will have to keep values for how well someone is playing the game so the computer does not make them give up. The bouncing yellow ball is a feature I decided to add. It means the side with the yellow score won. It is of course open source and anyone is free to change the program as they like. At this point I would have to convince myself to rewrite it using either a list or a dict to contain all the position and velocity variables plus I do not like the variable names with caps they gave us as template so I would change all of those so it might happen some early morning but right now I am happy with it working as it does. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Randy Baxley > wrote: > > PONG is ugly as far as code goes but in a good form for two people to > play > > who do not mind starting, stopping and restarting it without the button. > > > > http://www.codeskulptor.org/#user8-paYp6vO6lS-23.py > > fun! > > Any chance of a 1 player version? What comes to mind is player1.Y = > ball.Y > > And I found a neat bug: the serve went straight up, so now I have a > ball bouncing up and down and not coming at me. It is yellow if that > helps any. > > -- > Carl K > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carl at personnelware.com Tue Jan 29 01:18:19 2013 From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 18:18:19 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Failing Fast In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Randy Baxley wrote: > so the computer does not make them give up. Meh, that might be fun to code, but nothing that would make me play it more than if it palyed a perfect game. Personally I just want to play against my own skill or lack of. Like if I was bouncing the ball of of a sold wall. And don't do any of this for me. I will likely play with it for another 10 minutes, and then off it goes into my email history. I was mainly giving you more stuff to work on for the sake of hacking on code. -- Carl K From randy7771026 at gmail.com Tue Jan 29 01:39:00 2013 From: randy7771026 at gmail.com (Randy Baxley) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 18:39:00 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Failing Fast In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you. It is appreciated. Moving on to the next assignment in the class is likely a better idea for moving towards usefulness. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 6:18 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Randy Baxley > wrote: > > so the computer does not make them give up. > > Meh, that might be fun to code, but nothing that would make me play it > more than if it palyed a perfect game. > > Personally I just want to play against my own skill or lack of. Like > if I was bouncing the ball of of a sold wall. > > And don't do any of this for me. I will likely play with it for > another 10 minutes, and then off it goes into my email history. I > was mainly giving you more stuff to work on for the sake of hacking on > code. > > > > -- > Carl K > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From randy7771026 at gmail.com Tue Jan 29 01:41:09 2013 From: randy7771026 at gmail.com (Randy Baxley) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 18:41:09 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Failing Fast In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Do you want to be the paddle with the arrows? On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Randy Baxley wrote: > Thank you. It is appreciated. Moving on to the next assignment in the > class is likely a better idea for moving towards usefulness. > > > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 6:18 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: > >> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Randy Baxley >> wrote: >> > so the computer does not make them give up. >> >> Meh, that might be fun to code, but nothing that would make me play it >> more than if it palyed a perfect game. >> >> Personally I just want to play against my own skill or lack of. Like >> if I was bouncing the ball of of a sold wall. >> >> And don't do any of this for me. I will likely play with it for >> another 10 minutes, and then off it goes into my email history. I >> was mainly giving you more stuff to work on for the sake of hacking on >> code. >> >> >> >> -- >> Carl K >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carl at personnelware.com Tue Jan 29 03:38:11 2013 From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 20:38:11 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Failing Fast In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: heh.. I sucked you in :) yeah, that's the only paddle I figured out how to use. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 6:41 PM, Randy Baxley wrote: > Do you want to be the paddle with the arrows? > > > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Randy Baxley > wrote: >> >> Thank you. It is appreciated. Moving on to the next assignment in the >> class is likely a better idea for moving towards usefulness. >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 6:18 PM, Carl Karsten >> wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Randy Baxley >>> wrote: >>> > so the computer does not make them give up. >>> >>> Meh, that might be fun to code, but nothing that would make me play it >>> more than if it palyed a perfect game. >>> >>> Personally I just want to play against my own skill or lack of. Like >>> if I was bouncing the ball of of a sold wall. >>> >>> And don't do any of this for me. I will likely play with it for >>> another 10 minutes, and then off it goes into my email history. I >>> was mainly giving you more stuff to work on for the sake of hacking on >>> code. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Carl K >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- Carl K From bradley.marts at gmail.com Tue Jan 29 05:41:34 2013 From: bradley.marts at gmail.com (Brad Martsberger) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 22:41:34 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Failing Fast In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://xkcd.com/117/ On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: > heh.. I sucked you in :) > > yeah, that's the only paddle I figured out how to use. > > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 6:41 PM, Randy Baxley > wrote: > > Do you want to be the paddle with the arrows? > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Randy Baxley > > wrote: > >> > >> Thank you. It is appreciated. Moving on to the next assignment in the > >> class is likely a better idea for moving towards usefulness. > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 6:18 PM, Carl Karsten > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Randy Baxley > >>> wrote: > >>> > so the computer does not make them give up. > >>> > >>> Meh, that might be fun to code, but nothing that would make me play it > >>> more than if it palyed a perfect game. > >>> > >>> Personally I just want to play against my own skill or lack of. Like > >>> if I was bouncing the ball of of a sold wall. > >>> > >>> And don't do any of this for me. I will likely play with it for > >>> another 10 minutes, and then off it goes into my email history. I > >>> was mainly giving you more stuff to work on for the sake of hacking on > >>> code. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Carl K > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Chicago mailing list > >>> Chicago at python.org > >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >> > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > > -- > Carl K > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Moving on to the next assignment in the >> >> class is likely a better idea for moving towards usefulness. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 6:18 PM, Carl Karsten >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Randy Baxley > > >> >>> wrote: >> >>> > so the computer does not make them give up. >> >>> >> >>> Meh, that might be fun to code, but nothing that would make me play it >> >>> more than if it palyed a perfect game. >> >>> >> >>> Personally I just want to play against my own skill or lack of. Like >> >>> if I was bouncing the ball of of a sold wall. >> >>> >> >>> And don't do any of this for me. I will likely play with it for >> >>> another 10 minutes, and then off it goes into my email history. I >> >>> was mainly giving you more stuff to work on for the sake of hacking on >> >>> code. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Carl K >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Chicago mailing list >> >>> Chicago at python.org >> >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Chicago mailing list >> > Chicago at python.org >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Carl K >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From ryan.manly at gmail.com Tue Jan 29 15:07:46 2013 From: ryan.manly at gmail.com (Ryan Manly) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 08:07:46 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Failing Fast In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for the link I just joined that class as well (Dr. Chuck's I mean). :) I haven't really been following your other emails to know what your experience level is with things other than Python but there is also this edX class coming up that is using Python as well. https://www.edx.org/courses/MITx/6.00x/2013_Spring/about Ryan M. Manly Glenbrook High Schools On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Randy Baxley wrote: > I am actually at a point where you folks have likely gotten me to a point > of sources of information that will eventually take the failings I > currently have, at least those related to Python, and turn them into > strengths. For this I thank you. > > I took a short break from Interactive Python being offered on Coursera > through the Rice group to work through Dr-Chuck's MOOC. I am happy with my > basic knowledge of Python now and it will soon be time to add a knowledge > of math, science, graphic and display libraries as well as some better > idioms for inits and reinits. PONG is ugly as far as code goes but in a > good form for two people to play who do not mind starting, stopping and > restarting it without the button. > > http://www.codeskulptor.org/#user8-paYp6vO6lS-23.py > > If this messy post and code brings to anyones mind very > succinct references to libraries, algorithms and idioms please let me know. > > Now, to asteroids and beyond. > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If you don't end up finding anyone on here, take a look at https://us.pycon.org/2013/community/roomsharing/ From randy7771026 at gmail.com Tue Jan 29 17:05:59 2013 From: randy7771026 at gmail.com (Randy Baxley) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:05:59 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Failing Fast In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I began the MIT class but found the instructors too dry and they keep putting me to sleep so I took the U of Toronto class and am working through the exercises on the Rice class on my own schedule. Due to knowing the material from working through Dr_Chucks web site on my own schedule it took me a day and couple of mornings to work through his course. On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Ryan Manly wrote: > Thanks for the link I just joined that class as well (Dr. Chuck's I mean). > :) > > I haven't really been following your other emails to know what your > experience level is with things other than Python but there is also this > edX class coming up that is using Python as well. > > https://www.edx.org/courses/MITx/6.00x/2013_Spring/about > > Ryan M. Manly > Glenbrook High Schools > > > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Randy Baxley wrote: > >> I am actually at a point where you folks have likely gotten me to a point >> of sources of information that will eventually take the failings I >> currently have, at least those related to Python, and turn them into >> strengths. For this I thank you. >> >> I took a short break from Interactive Python being offered on Coursera >> through the Rice group to work through Dr-Chuck's MOOC. I am happy with my >> basic knowledge of Python now and it will soon be time to add a knowledge >> of math, science, graphic and display libraries as well as some better >> idioms for inits and reinits. PONG is ugly as far as code goes but in a >> good form for two people to play who do not mind starting, stopping and >> restarting it without the button. >> >> http://www.codeskulptor.org/#user8-paYp6vO6lS-23.py >> >> If this messy post and code brings to anyones mind very >> succinct references to libraries, algorithms and idioms please let me know. >> >> Now, to asteroids and beyond. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Not technical, > should have wide appeal. > > - A pre-PyCon presentation on a little project I've been working > on the past month: "Parallelizing the Python Interpreter: The > Quest for True Asynchronicity". > > Sensational title aside, this presentation details the work > I've done to "parallelize" the Python interpreter; allowing > Python code to exploit all CPU cores without impeding normal > single-threaded performance. > > (This work is comparable to previous attempts to remove the > GIL with fine-grained locking, as well as the STM work being > done in PyPy. My approach differs from both: I don't remove > the GIL nor do I introduce fine-grained locking (which is why > single-threaded execution doesn't take a performance hit).) > > This would be a very technical presentation. There's even a > bit of assembly language involved (well, compiler intrinsics, > at least). However, it's a pretty cool topic, so even if you > don't grok the low-level CPython internal stuff, there will be > lots of other interesting stuff at a higher level. > > Look forward to meeting you all! (Chicago is probably my favourite > city in the US.) Huge +1 on both, but a bigger +1 on the parallel talk. However, I'm not 100% sure yet if I can make it to the meeting :( From brianhray at gmail.com Tue Jan 29 22:50:53 2013 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:50:53 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Threadless in April? Message-ID: Threadless has always been a good venue and they offered to host in April. Can I see a rain of +1's? -- Brian Ray @brianray (773) 669-7717 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From emperorcezar at gmail.com Tue Jan 29 22:52:08 2013 From: emperorcezar at gmail.com (Adam "Cezar" Jenkins) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:52:08 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Threadless in April? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: +1 On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > Threadless has always been a good venue and they offered to host in April. > > Can I see a rain of +1's? > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jp at zavteq.com Tue Jan 29 22:54:02 2013 From: jp at zavteq.com (JP Bader) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:54:02 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Threadless in April? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: +1 On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins < emperorcezar at gmail.com> wrote: > +1 > > > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > >> Threadless has always been a good venue and they offered to host in April. >> >> Can I see a rain of +1's? >> >> -- >> Brian Ray >> @brianray >> (773) 669-7717 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -- JP Bader Principal Zavteq, Inc. @lordB8r | jp at zavteq.com 608.692.2468 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > Threadless has always been a good venue and they offered to host in April. > > Can I see a rain of +1's? Haikus are +1 But sometimes they don't make sense Refrigerator (I'm actually wearing this shirt today! http://www.threadless.com/product/623/Haikus_are_easy_but) From zitterbewegung at gmail.com Wed Jan 30 02:18:52 2013 From: zitterbewegung at gmail.com (Joshua Herman) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 19:18:52 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Threadless in April? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: +1 ---Profile:--- http://www.google.com/profiles/zitterbewegung On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Sean Farley wrote: > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > > Threadless has always been a good venue and they offered to host in > April. > > > > Can I see a rain of +1's? > > Haikus are +1 > But sometimes they don't make sense > Refrigerator > > (I'm actually wearing this shirt today! > http://www.threadless.com/product/623/Haikus_are_easy_but) > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carl at personnelware.com Wed Jan 30 03:22:10 2013 From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 20:22:10 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Failing Fast In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yay!!! I played a whole game! I lost, but I will be back. On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 6:08 AM, Randy Baxley wrote: > Pong roughed out for one player > > > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:41 PM, Brad Martsberger > wrote: >> >> http://xkcd.com/117/ >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Carl Karsten >> wrote: >>> >>> heh.. I sucked you in :) >>> >>> yeah, that's the only paddle I figured out how to use. >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 6:41 PM, Randy Baxley >>> wrote: >>> > Do you want to be the paddle with the arrows? >>> > >>> > >>> > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Randy Baxley >>> > wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Thank you. It is appreciated. Moving on to the next assignment in >>> >> the >>> >> class is likely a better idea for moving towards usefulness. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 6:18 PM, Carl Karsten >>> >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Randy Baxley >>> >>> >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> > so the computer does not make them give up. >>> >>> >>> >>> Meh, that might be fun to code, but nothing that would make me play >>> >>> it >>> >>> more than if it palyed a perfect game. >>> >>> >>> >>> Personally I just want to play against my own skill or lack of. >>> >>> Like >>> >>> if I was bouncing the ball of of a sold wall. >>> >>> >>> >>> And don't do any of this for me. I will likely play with it for >>> >>> another 10 minutes, and then off it goes into my email history. I >>> >>> was mainly giving you more stuff to work on for the sake of hacking >>> >>> on >>> >>> code. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Carl K >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Chicago mailing list >>> >>> Chicago at python.org >>> >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Chicago mailing list >>> > Chicago at python.org >>> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Carl K >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- Carl K From adam at adamforsyth.net Wed Jan 30 14:42:59 2013 From: adam at adamforsyth.net (Adam Forsyth) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 05:42:59 -0800 Subject: [Chicago] Introduction and possible presentations for Feb 14th. In-Reply-To: References: <20130128113437.GA85364@snakebite.org> Message-ID: +1 to Snakebite. While the parallelization talk sounds awesome, and I would love to hear it, I think the Snakebite talk might dovetail better with the community / Aaron Swartz focus I think people have been considering for the February meeting? On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Brian Curtin wrote: > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 5:34 AM, Trent Nelson wrote: > > Hi folks! > > > > As luck would have it, it's highly likely I'll be visiting the Windy > > City on the weekend of Feb 15th, so I figured why not try and come a > > day earlier and attend the meetup on the 14th. > > > > Little bit of background: I'm a Python and Subversion committer and > > also the founder of Snakebite (www.snakebite.net). I'd be up for > > giving a presentation if time allows. I have two in mind: > > > > - A general presentation on Snakebite -- I've given these in the > > past and they've always been well received. Not technical, > > should have wide appeal. > > > > - A pre-PyCon presentation on a little project I've been working > > on the past month: "Parallelizing the Python Interpreter: The > > Quest for True Asynchronicity". > > > > Sensational title aside, this presentation details the work > > I've done to "parallelize" the Python interpreter; allowing > > Python code to exploit all CPU cores without impeding normal > > single-threaded performance. > > > > (This work is comparable to previous attempts to remove the > > GIL with fine-grained locking, as well as the STM work being > > done in PyPy. My approach differs from both: I don't remove > > the GIL nor do I introduce fine-grained locking (which is why > > single-threaded execution doesn't take a performance hit).) > > > > This would be a very technical presentation. There's even a > > bit of assembly language involved (well, compiler intrinsics, > > at least). However, it's a pretty cool topic, so even if you > > don't grok the low-level CPython internal stuff, there will be > > lots of other interesting stuff at a higher level. > > > > Look forward to meeting you all! (Chicago is probably my favourite > > city in the US.) > > Huge +1 on both, but a bigger +1 on the parallel talk. > > However, I'm not 100% sure yet if I can make it to the meeting :( > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From randy7771026 at gmail.com Wed Jan 30 20:16:05 2013 From: randy7771026 at gmail.com (Randy Baxley) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 13:16:05 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Introduction and possible presentations for Feb 14th. In-Reply-To: References: <20130128113437.GA85364@snakebite.org> Message-ID: Not joking at all, I have been crying in my beer since Aaron took his life. I did not know Aaron but went to be a buffer that turned out to be of no need. I am sort of a cultist myself but I really do not fit in a single cult and am basically a lover of all that is boring. I thank Rob of ChiPy for saying hello and hope you are doing well. I do not hink the ChiPy meetings should change but I would, selfishly, like to see some hacks and sprints held on a monthly or biweekly basis. The office hours are a beginning but the Pumping Station: One has so much else that is wonderful it is a distraction from computer hacking. On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 7:42 AM, Adam Forsyth wrote: > +1 to Snakebite. > > While the parallelization talk sounds awesome, and I would love to hear > it, I think the Snakebite talk might dovetail better with the community / > Aaron Swartz focus I think people have been considering for the February > meeting? > > > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Brian Curtin wrote: > >> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 5:34 AM, Trent Nelson >> wrote: >> > Hi folks! >> > >> > As luck would have it, it's highly likely I'll be visiting the Windy >> > City on the weekend of Feb 15th, so I figured why not try and come a >> > day earlier and attend the meetup on the 14th. >> > >> > Little bit of background: I'm a Python and Subversion committer and >> > also the founder of Snakebite (www.snakebite.net). I'd be up for >> > giving a presentation if time allows. I have two in mind: >> > >> > - A general presentation on Snakebite -- I've given these in the >> > past and they've always been well received. Not technical, >> > should have wide appeal. >> > >> > - A pre-PyCon presentation on a little project I've been working >> > on the past month: "Parallelizing the Python Interpreter: The >> > Quest for True Asynchronicity". >> > >> > Sensational title aside, this presentation details the work >> > I've done to "parallelize" the Python interpreter; allowing >> > Python code to exploit all CPU cores without impeding normal >> > single-threaded performance. >> > >> > (This work is comparable to previous attempts to remove the >> > GIL with fine-grained locking, as well as the STM work being >> > done in PyPy. My approach differs from both: I don't remove >> > the GIL nor do I introduce fine-grained locking (which is why >> > single-threaded execution doesn't take a performance hit).) >> > >> > This would be a very technical presentation. There's even a >> > bit of assembly language involved (well, compiler intrinsics, >> > at least). However, it's a pretty cool topic, so even if you >> > don't grok the low-level CPython internal stuff, there will be >> > lots of other interesting stuff at a higher level. >> > >> > Look forward to meeting you all! (Chicago is probably my favourite >> > city in the US.) >> >> Huge +1 on both, but a bigger +1 on the parallel talk. >> >> However, I'm not 100% sure yet if I can make it to the meeting :( >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eviljoel at linux.com Thu Jan 31 05:38:11 2013 From: eviljoel at linux.com (eviljoel) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 22:38:11 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] aaronsw memorial hackathon documentation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey All, I'll be in attendance. - eviljoel On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:37 AM, sheila miguez wrote: > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Sean Farley > wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:17 AM, sheila miguez wrote: > [...] >>> I have mixed feelings about Mendeley due to the possible buy out by >>> Elsevier. >> >> That would be a huge disappointment. >> >>> Maybe it is akin to how people feel when google buys a >>> company? >> >> Absolutely not. Elsevier is purely evil and that is all I will say >> about them on a public list. > > Well, there are other tools we could look at. I wasn't sure how > ambivalent to be. I didn't know if it would be like Google getting > etherpad, or like yahoo getting delicious, or like twitter getting > twitter and killing use of its api by third party clients. > >>> On the other hand, a lot of scientists use the tool and I >>> would like to help the population of scientists. And, if devs in >>> Mendeley have requests and are willing to talk to me, I appreciate >>> that and it would help for a hack night. And, they do have open source >>> tools that interact with their api. >> >> We will have to see. I've heard of other apis and whatnot and this >> meeting might be a good reason for me to investigate those more >> thoroughly. > > Yeah, I tried to list alternatives in the gist, and I've also been > trying to follow discussions here and there and in the other mailing > list and have bookmarked some of what I've found. > > check #mendelete on twitter, for some example commentary > > https://plus.google.com/u/0/117663015413546257905/posts/NqpsAJHYHHp > for a g+ discussion > > -- > sheila > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago From randy7771026 at gmail.com Thu Jan 31 16:32:16 2013 From: randy7771026 at gmail.com (Randy Baxley) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:32:16 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] ALL CAPS? Message-ID: Please tell me it ain't so? I mentioned the other night that I did not like some variable names in a template for the Rice course. What I did not like was the all caps. In week 5s lecture though he says all caps is a Python convention for constants that will not change in a program. I had my first negative CAPS conversation in about '88 due to needing to learn to send duplex messages from a IIC when the internet was a bunch of hobbiest that had phone lines that could access more than one area code and set their PCs up as servers. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steve at agilitynerd.com Thu Jan 31 16:37:58 2013 From: steve at agilitynerd.com (Steve Schwarz) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:37:58 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] ALL CAPS? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Randy Baxley wrote: > Please tell me it ain't so? > > I mentioned the other night that I did not like some variable names in a > template for the Rice course. What I did not like was the all caps. In > week 5s lecture though he says all caps is a Python convention for > constants that will not change in a program. > > Yes it is a common convention. A number of languages use it. I've always done it as carryover from C macros. Best Regards, Steve Blogs: http://agilitynerd.com/ http://tech.agilitynerd.com/ Dog Agility Search: http://googility.com/ Dog Agility Courses: http://agilitycourses.com/ http://www.facebook.com/AgilityNerd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steve at agilitynerd.com Thu Jan 31 16:39:05 2013 From: steve at agilitynerd.com (Steve Schwarz) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:39:05 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] ALL CAPS? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sorry forgot to paste PEP-8 reference: http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/#constants Steve On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Steve Schwarz wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Randy Baxley wrote: > >> Please tell me it ain't so? >> >> I mentioned the other night that I did not like some variable names in a >> template for the Rice course. What I did not like was the all caps. In >> week 5s lecture though he says all caps is a Python convention for >> constants that will not change in a program. >> >> Yes it is a common convention. A number of languages use it. I've always > done it as carryover from C macros. > > Best Regards, > Steve > Blogs: http://agilitynerd.com/ http://tech.agilitynerd.com/ > Dog Agility Search: http://googility.com/ > Dog Agility Courses: http://agilitycourses.com/ > http://www.facebook.com/AgilityNerd > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It is a common practice in C - Jonathan Helmus From ryan.manly at gmail.com Thu Jan 31 16:39:49 2013 From: ryan.manly at gmail.com (Ryan Manly) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:39:49 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] ALL CAPS? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I don't like it when people use them in bash but here you go... Constants Constants are usually defined on a module level and written in all capital letters with underscores separating words. Examples include MAX_OVERFLOW and TOTAL. sauce: http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/#naming-conventions Ryan M. Manly Glenbrook High Schools On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Randy Baxley wrote: > Please tell me it ain't so? > > I mentioned the other night that I did not like some variable names in a > template for the Rice course. What I did not like was the all caps. In > week 5s lecture though he says all caps is a Python convention for > constants that will not change in a program. > > I had my first negative CAPS conversation in about '88 due to needing to > learn to send duplex messages from a IIC when the internet was a bunch of > hobbiest that had phone lines that could access more than one area code and > set their PCs up as servers. > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tal.liron at threecrickets.com Thu Jan 31 18:23:36 2013 From: tal.liron at threecrickets.com (Tal Liron) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 11:23:36 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Genie updates Message-ID: <510AA898.2090403@threecrickets.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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"I will be discussing the full range of internationalization and localization techniques related to Django applications including localization of your database data with Django-Multilingual, providing localizations for Django-CMS content and the localization of your Django applications and Django itself with Django-Rosetta." + Brian Moloney will give a brief update on DjangoCon US 2013 RSVP (either one): https://www.facebook.com/events/280212935438743/ http://www.chicagodjango.com and use the Contact Us form on the homepage. See you there, Brian -- Brian J. Moloney Managing Partner Imaginary Landscape, LLC Web Design | Development | Strategy (877) 275-9144 toll free http://imagescape.com http://chicagodjango.com http://twitter.com/Brian_Moloney From skip at pobox.com Thu Jan 31 21:04:34 2013 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:04:34 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Chicago Djangonauts meetup Thursday, February 7th at Catapult In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > The Chicago Djangonauts group is holding a meetup next Thursday, > February 7, 2012 @ 6:30pm hosted by Procured Health at Catapult > Chicago (321 N. Clark St.). Brian, Are Django novices welcome or is this more a meeting for Django aficionados? Thanks, Skip Montanaro From emperorcezar at gmail.com Thu Jan 31 21:30:44 2013 From: emperorcezar at gmail.com (Adam "Cezar" Jenkins) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:30:44 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Chicago Djangonauts meetup Thursday, February 7th at Catapult In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Everyone is welcome. Though I do recommend that you like free food and drink. :p On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Skip Montanaro wrote: > > The Chicago Djangonauts group is holding a meetup next Thursday, > > February 7, 2012 @ 6:30pm hosted by Procured Health at Catapult > > Chicago (321 N. Clark St.). > > Brian, > > Are Django novices welcome or is this more a meeting for Django > aficionados? > > Thanks, > > Skip Montanaro > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: