From shekay at pobox.com Mon Dec 1 16:13:09 2014 From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 09:13:09 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Talk for next meeting -- Kenneth Reitz Message-ID: Kenneth Reitz pinged me to ask if we are still accepting talks for next week to see if he can give a talk. Do we have spots? No one has mentioned a talk yet, so I hope so. I am +11ity. -- shekay at pobox.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From adam at adamforsyth.net Mon Dec 1 16:21:50 2014 From: adam at adamforsyth.net (Adam Forsyth) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 09:21:50 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Talk for next meeting -- Kenneth Reitz In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: We do have slots available, +1! On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 9:13 AM, sheila miguez wrote: > Kenneth Reitz pinged me to ask if we are still accepting talks for next > week to see if he can give a talk. > > Do we have spots? No one has mentioned a talk yet, so I hope so. > > I am +11ity. > > -- > shekay at pobox.com > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carl at personnelware.com Sun Dec 7 00:28:56 2014 From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 17:28:56 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Video sponsorship opportunity Message-ID: I am looking for companies that want to be a video sponsor. You get your logo on the title slide of the videos (however many video's get made this month) and the warm fuzzy of supporting me. This month will be Kenneth Reitz: """ Kenneth Reitz is the product owner of Python at Heroku and a fellow at the Python Software Foundation. ... many open source software projects, specifically Requests: HTTP for Humans. """ - http://www.kennethreitz.org/about Requests: http://docs.python-requests.org/en/latest/ other cool stuff: http://www.kennethreitz.org/projects How much? $1500 is what it would cost to hire a professional. If you want to give me that, great! Otherwise I'll take the top 3 offers I get by Tuesday morning. If you need some hard numbers to get approval, let me know and I'll dig them up. Kenneth is well known, so I expect he hit counts to be hit 10K in the first few months. -- Carl K Aaron Swartz believed that you literally ought to be asking yourself all the time: "What is most important thing I could be working on in the world right now, and if you're not working on it, why aren't you?" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From brianhray at gmail.com Sun Dec 7 03:06:38 2014 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 20:06:38 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Video of the Nov 2014 meeting In-Reply-To: <1310015731.3762444.1417914007011.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10092.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1310015731.3762444.1417914007011.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10092.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Very nicely done. Thank you Jimmy. On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 7:00 PM, Jimmy Calahorrano < jcalahor at yahoo.com.dmarc.invalid> wrote: > Hello, > > the video of our previous meeting is ready. > > << https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEwufSsx4O8 >> > > The topics were: > > *Hidden Markov Models to improve activity recognition in patients with > spinal cord injury* > *&* > > *Innate learning: training the brain before the eyes open* > > I apologize, this edit took longer than expected. We've been busy > preparing holiday videos for clients. > > Thank you, > Jimmy > > > November 2014 Chipy - Hidden Markov Models & Innate learning - Chicago > Python User Group > > > [image: image] > > > > > > November 2014 Chipy - Hidden Markov Models & Innate ... > > View on www.youtube.com > Preview by Yahoo > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -- Brian Ray @brianray (773) 669-7717 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jcalahor at yahoo.com Sun Dec 7 03:47:41 2014 From: jcalahor at yahoo.com (Jimmy Calahorrano) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2014 02:47:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Chicago] Video of the Nov 2014 meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <138488057.3780400.1417920462006.JavaMail.yahoo@jws100116.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> yw Brian, anytime! From: Brian Ray To: Jimmy Calahorrano ; The Chicago Python Users Group Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2014 8:06 PM Subject: Re: [Chicago] Video of the Nov 2014 meeting Very nicely done. Thank you Jimmy. On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 7:00 PM, Jimmy Calahorrano wrote: Hello, the video of our previous meeting is ready.? << https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEwufSsx4O8?>> The topics were: Hidden Markov Models to improve activity recognition in patients with spinal cord injury &Innate learning: training the brain before the eyes open I apologize, this edit took longer than expected. We've been busy preparing holiday videos for clients. Thank you,Jimmy ?November 2014 Chipy - Hidden Markov Models & Innate learning - Chicago Python User Group | ? | | ? | | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | | November 2014 Chipy - Hidden Markov Models & Innate ... | | | | View on www.youtube.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | ? | _______________________________________________ Chicago mailing list Chicago at python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -- Brian Ray?@brianray(773) 669-7717 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shekay at pobox.com Sun Dec 7 18:11:44 2014 From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2014 11:11:44 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Video of the Nov 2014 meeting In-Reply-To: <1310015731.3762444.1417914007011.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10092.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1310015731.3762444.1417914007011.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10092.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi all, I've got the meeting listed on pyvideo.org now. If the presenters have materials they'd like to share, I can add links to them on the page too. On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 7:00 PM, Jimmy Calahorrano < jcalahor at yahoo.com.dmarc.invalid> wrote: > Hello, > > the video of our previous meeting is ready. > > << https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEwufSsx4O8 >> > > The topics were: > > *Hidden Markov Models to improve activity recognition in patients with > spinal cord injury* > *&* > > *Innate learning: training the brain before the eyes open* > > I apologize, this edit took longer than expected. We've been busy > preparing holiday videos for clients. > > Thank you, > Jimmy > > > November 2014 Chipy - Hidden Markov Models & Innate learning - Chicago > Python User Group > > > [image: image] > > > > > > November 2014 Chipy - Hidden Markov Models & Innate ... > > View on www.youtube.com > Preview by Yahoo > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -- shekay at pobox.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From adam at adamforsyth.net Sun Dec 7 18:43:21 2014 From: adam at adamforsyth.net (Adam Forsyth) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2014 11:43:21 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] ChiPy December Meeting - Details and Call for Talks Message-ID: The December meeting will be at Braintree's new office on the 8th Floor of the Merchandise Mart. RSVPs are now open: http://www.chipy.org/ We have two talks so far, but can potentially fit one more. You can propose one at http://www.chipy.org/meetings/topics/propose Our first talk will be by Kenneth Reitz, author of Requests, PSF Fellow, and product owner of Python at Heroku. His talks are listed at http://www.kennethreitz.org/talks/ -- let us know which you'd like to see! The second is by Tanya Schlusser: A lightning look at O'Reilly's Python books Wouldn't it be awesome if ChiPy wrote its own book? We'd be able to get BEvERages for weeks, maybe months on the royalty! If so, we'd need to see what's already out there. This lightning talk takes a look at O'Reilly's Python books using requests and BeautifulSoup, with a little of scipy's hierarchical clustering on the book descriptions. It is presented in an iPython notebook. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jp at zavteq.com Mon Dec 8 04:55:09 2014 From: jp at zavteq.com (JP Bader) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2014 21:55:09 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Video sponsorship opportunity In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey Carl, My company, Zavteq, would be happy to sponsor your hard work and help record Kenneth's talk. Hopefully $150 helps out :) Let me know the deets! JP On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 5:28 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: > I am looking for companies that want to be a video sponsor. You get your > logo on the title slide of the videos (however many video's get made this > month) and the warm fuzzy of supporting me. > > This month will be Kenneth Reitz: > > """ > Kenneth Reitz is the product owner of Python at Heroku and a fellow at the > Python Software Foundation. > ... many open source software projects, > specifically Requests: HTTP for Humans. > """ - http://www.kennethreitz.org/about > Requests: http://docs.python-requests.org/en/latest/ > other cool stuff: http://www.kennethreitz.org/projects > > How much? $1500 is what it would cost to hire a professional. If you > want to give me that, great! Otherwise I'll take the top 3 offers I get by > Tuesday morning. > > If you need some hard numbers to get approval, let me know and I'll dig > them up. Kenneth is well known, so I expect he hit counts to be hit 10K in > the first few months. > > -- > Carl K > > Aaron Swartz believed that you literally ought to be asking yourself all > the time: > "What is most important thing I could be working on in the world right > now, > and if you're not working on it, why aren't you?" > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -- JP Bader Principal Zavteq, Inc. @lordB8r | jp at zavteq.com 608.692.2468 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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His talks are listed at >> http://www.kennethreitz.org/talks/ -- let us know which you'd like to >> see! >> > > The flasky talk seems like a good choice for a user group meeting. It > covers the philosophy of api design and preferring composition but includes > some technical details, and contrasts flask to django. more techy stuff is > good for a user group versus pure high concept stuff that make great > keynotes. > > But pretty much I would enjoy any of the talks. I haven't seen the > documentation at scale talk before. That one looks excellent. > > If he covers 12 factor apps, someone should follow up with a lightning > talk or open space chit chat about managing secrets, since I've never felt > satisfied with how I do that and would like to hear about commonly used > techniques. > > > -- > shekay at pobox.com > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tanya at tickel.net Tue Dec 9 22:48:44 2014 From: tanya at tickel.net (Tanya Schlusser) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 15:48:44 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] ChiPy December Meeting - Details and Call for Talks Message-ID: I'd love to see the '12 Factor App' or 'Documentation at Scale' but agree any would be great. Sheila, maybe if it's the '12 Factor App' we can get a lightning reprise of "The Chicago Process: How Braintree Develops Software" since we'll be at Braintree anyway. > Our first talk will be by Kenneth Reitz, author of Requests, PSF Fellow, > and product owner of Python at Heroku. His talks are listed at > http://www.kennethreitz.org/talks/ -- let us know which you'd like to see! > Best, Tanya -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From emperorcezar at gmail.com Tue Dec 9 23:20:51 2014 From: emperorcezar at gmail.com (Adam "Cezar" Jenkins) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 16:20:51 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] ChiPy December Meeting - Details and Call for Talks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'd be down for api driven development. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Father, dabbling at being a Python developer specializing in Django, Cyclist, and home brewer. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Tanya Schlusser wrote: > I'd love to see the '12 Factor App' or 'Documentation at Scale' but agree > any would be great. > > Sheila, maybe if it's the '12 Factor App' we can get a lightning reprise > of "The Chicago Process: How Braintree Develops Software" since we'll be at > Braintree anyway. > > > > Our first talk will be by Kenneth Reitz, author of Requests, PSF Fellow, > > and product owner of Python at Heroku. His talks are listed at > > http://www.kennethreitz.org/talks/ -- let us know which you'd like to > see! > > > > Best, > Tanya > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Here is what I counted as votes: Sheila: flasky, documentation at scale looks excellent, 12 Factor App Adam B: love to see either the 12-factor, API-driven development, or the flask talks Tanya: love to see the '12 Factor App' or 'Documentation at Scale' Cezar: api driven development. flasky 2 doc at scale 2 12 factor 3 api driven development 2 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins wrote: > I'd be down for api driven development. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Father, dabbling at being a Python developer specializing in Django, > Cyclist, and home brewer. > > On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Tanya Schlusser wrote: > >> I'd love to see the '12 Factor App' or 'Documentation at Scale' but agree >> any would be great. >> >> Sheila, maybe if it's the '12 Factor App' we can get a lightning reprise >> of "The Chicago Process: How Braintree Develops Software" since we'll be at >> Braintree anyway. >> >> >> > Our first talk will be by Kenneth Reitz, author of Requests, PSF Fellow, >> > and product owner of Python at Heroku. His talks are listed at >> > http://www.kennethreitz.org/talks/ -- let us know which you'd like to >> see! >> > >> >> Best, >> Tanya >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -- Carl K Aaron Swartz believed that you literally ought to be asking yourself all the time: "What is most important thing I could be working on in the world right now, and if you're not working on it, why aren't you?" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The video will be titled with the following image: http://veyepar.pyvideo.cdn.nextdayvideo.com/veyepar/chipy/dec_2014_loop/titles/A_lightning_look_at_OReillys_Python_books.png The main page for the video will be here: http://www.pyvideo.org/video/3371/a-lightning-look-at-oreillys-python-books Problems with the text should be fixed in the event database that drives: http://www.chipy.org/ If everything looks good, you don't need to do anything. Good luck with your talk; expect another email when the video is posted. Your talk is scheduled for Dec. 11, 2014, 8 p.m. in the room called Braintree *new* HQ and you have been allotted 15 minutes. The event organizers will give you instructions on how to check in before your talk. Please bring what is needed to hook your laptop up to good old 15 pin VGA. We may have an adaptor, but don't count on it, someone may have taken it. Email generated by https://github.com/CarlFK/veyepar/blob/master/dj/scripts/email_title.py but replies go to real people. Reference: http://veyepar.nextdayvideo.com/main/E/9094/ From carl at nextdayvideo.com Thu Dec 11 18:22:09 2014 From: carl at nextdayvideo.com (Carl Karsten) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 11:22:09 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] [Dec 2014 loop] Video metadata for "A lightning look at O'Reilly's Python books" In-Reply-To: <20141211165935.3678.83682@twist.private> References: <20141211165935.3678.83682@twist.private> Message-ID: Whoops, side effect of "notify the list when videos are posted" request. Or something. I'm not actually sure why I used the list's email. follow NextDayVideo to see when the vids go up. On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Carl Karsten wrote: > > Hi, > > This is Veyepar, the automated video processing system. > > Please review the following meta data about your talk so that mistakes can > be corrected now and not after the video has gone live. > > Released: True > Permission has been given to record your talk and post it online. > > > > The video will be titled with the following image: > > http://veyepar.pyvideo.cdn.nextdayvideo.com/veyepar/chipy/dec_2014_loop/titles/A_lightning_look_at_OReillys_Python_books.png > > The main page for the video will be here: > http://www.pyvideo.org/video/3371/a-lightning-look-at-oreillys-python-books > > > Problems with the text should be fixed in the event database that drives: > http://www.chipy.org/ > > If everything looks good, you don't need to do anything. Good luck with > your talk; expect another email when the video is posted. > > Your talk is scheduled for Dec. 11, 2014, 8 p.m. in the room called > Braintree *new* HQ and you have been allotted 15 minutes. The event > organizers will give you instructions on how to check in before your talk. > > Please bring what is needed to hook your laptop up to good old 15 pin > VGA. We may have an adaptor, but don't count on it, someone may have taken > it. > > > Email generated by > https://github.com/CarlFK/veyepar/blob/master/dj/scripts/email_title.py > but replies go to real people. > > Reference: http://veyepar.nextdayvideo.com/main/E/9094/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nick271828 at gmail.com Thu Dec 11 20:29:21 2014 From: nick271828 at gmail.com (Nick Bennett) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 13:29:21 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Chipy meeting tonight at Braintree, 7pm In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I RSVPed but I won't be able to make it. Kenneth Reitz AND Tanya, sounds awesome! Nick Bennett github: tothebeat 224-392-2326 On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Jason Wirth wrote: > Just a reminder for tonight's Chipy meeting at Braintree. This is also the > last meeting of the year! > > Some awesome talks planned, and Kenneth Reitz, creator of requests, will > be speaking. > > Don't forget to RSVP at Chipy.org > Next Meeting > > *When:* Dec. 11, 2014, 7 p.m. > > *Where:* Braintree *new* HQ > > Merchandise Mart 222 W Merchandise Mart Plaza 8th Floor Chicago, IL 60654 > > > -- > > -- > Jason Wirth > 213.986.5809 > wirth.jason at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Everyone is welcome, all skill levels are encouraged. Friendly people will be here to help beginning Python programmers with language basics and practice. If you prefer to work on things on your own, that is okay too! Things to bring: a wireless-enabled laptop and power cord. Some of us chat on #pythonprojectnight on freenode. It is handy for sharing links to information and pastebins. If you don't have an irc client, you can connect to the channel via a web client, like #pythonprojectnight *Projects* http://bit.ly/intermediate-python-projects Practice the language and practical Python applications through bite-sized projects with scaffolding provided. http://newcoder.io/ NewCoder is for when you get to the point where you say ?Well, I worked through this beginner book. Now what?? It has tutorials on Data Visualization, APIs, Web Scraping, Networking *Tutorials* http://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/ *Interactive Tutorials* http://www.learnpython.org/ http://www.pythontutor.com/ Problem Solving with Algorithms and Data Structures How to Think Like a Computer Scientist *Online Python Consoles* https://www.pythonanywhere.com https://www.wakari.io/ -- shekay at pobox.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dkh2oit at gmail.com Mon Dec 15 20:07:05 2014 From: dkh2oit at gmail.com (De Kelsey) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 13:07:05 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Python Project Night this Thursday In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: thanks Sheila! On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 12:08 PM, sheila miguez wrote: > > Hi all, > > Python Project Night is this Thursday at the Braintree offies. > > > Come work on Python projects, get programming help, help others, and hang > out. Everything is self-paced. Bring your own project or work on one of the > suggested projects below. Everyone is welcome, all skill levels are > encouraged. Friendly people will be here to help beginning Python > programmers with language basics and practice. If you prefer to work on > things on your own, that is okay too! > > Things to bring: a wireless-enabled laptop and power cord. > > Some of us chat on #pythonprojectnight on freenode. It is handy for > sharing links to information and pastebins. If you don't have an irc > client, you can connect to the channel via a web client, like > #pythonprojectnight > > > *Projects* > > http://bit.ly/intermediate-python-projects Practice the language and > practical Python applications through bite-sized projects with scaffolding > provided. > > http://newcoder.io/ NewCoder is for when you get to the point where you > say ?Well, I worked through this beginner book. Now what?? It has > tutorials on Data Visualization, APIs, Web Scraping, Networking > > *Tutorials* > > http://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/ > > *Interactive Tutorials* > > http://www.learnpython.org/ > > http://www.pythontutor.com/ > > Problem Solving with Algorithms and Data Structures > > > How to Think Like a Computer Scientist > > > *Online Python Consoles* > > https://www.pythonanywhere.com > > https://www.wakari.io/ > > > -- > shekay at pobox.com > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -- "Take the first step in faith. You don't have to see the whole staircase, just take the first step." -Martin Luther King, Jr -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The current high-level development plan can be found here. if you are interested in contributing, either as an Engineer, Analyst or Tester, please email the Project Leader, Lou Dasaro, at the address shown on the development plan Alternatively, you can subscribe to nbpython-dev (at) netbeans {dot} org and send your request there. Join us, won't you? There are several other pages at NetBeans.org that Python folks may find useful: Most people will just need to consult http://wiki.netbeans.org/Python . To see the current list of open issues, visit Bugzilla To learn about developing NetBeans modules, visit this page To learn about building from sources (a lot of code!) visit WorkingWithNetBeansSources (more to come...) -- shekay at pobox.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From philiphouse2015 at u.northwestern.edu Fri Dec 26 00:20:03 2014 From: philiphouse2015 at u.northwestern.edu (Philip House) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2014 18:20:03 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Recommended Reading Message-ID: Hi all, I had some questions about recommended reading for next steps as a developer, specifically in Python. For some context, I'm a computer science student preparing to graduate and I'm looking to learn more and grow my understanding of Python and how it can be used. I've used Python for web applications, some basic scripting, and a few other small applications. I've read Code Complete, and I'm currently in the process of reading the Pragmatic Programmer, however I'm looking for a more technical book to expand my toolset and skillset. Are there any good Python books that you would recommend as an aspiring software developer? Or any books that you read when you were first getting started that helped a lot? I'm pretty open to reading anything that will help! Thank you! Let me know if there's any other things that would be helpful to know in making book recommendations as well :) Phil -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From japhy at pearachute.com Mon Dec 29 17:21:23 2014 From: japhy at pearachute.com (Japhy Bartlett) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2014 10:21:23 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Recommended Reading In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Once you've gone through Design Patterns (or Code Complete), you're probably going to dig more into whatever particular niche you'd like to work with, imo. At a certain point, it's more about learning the nuances of the tools and libraries. If you're planning on making a career out of this, "The Mythical Man Month" is a classic book about building things with teams, and "The Peter Principle" is a still relevant satire about how organizations become dysfunctional. - Japhy On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Philip House < philiphouse2015 at u.northwestern.edu> wrote: > Hi all, > > I had some questions about recommended reading for next steps as a > developer, specifically in Python. For some context, I'm a computer > science student preparing to graduate and I'm looking to learn more and > grow my understanding of Python and how it can be used. I've used Python > for web applications, some basic scripting, and a few other small > applications. > > I've read Code Complete, and I'm currently in the process of reading the > Pragmatic Programmer, however I'm looking for a more technical book to > expand my toolset and skillset. Are there any good Python books that you > would recommend as an aspiring software developer? Or any books that you > read when you were first getting started that helped a lot? I'm pretty open > to reading anything that will help! > > Thank you! Let me know if there's any other things that would be helpful > to know in making book recommendations as well :) > > Phil > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wirth.jason at gmail.com Tue Dec 30 05:21:32 2014 From: wirth.jason at gmail.com (Jason Wirth) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2014 22:21:32 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Recommended Reading In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: "I'm looking for a more technical book to expand my toolset and skillset." What do you mean by "technical"? To me technical brings to mind two areas, the mathematical side and the electrical engineering side of software. Both are worthy disciplines. You could simultaneously dip your toes into both waters by exploring Cython, it's a little closer to the metal. Mathematically "Concrete Mathematics" is a popular book. As Japhy pointed out, there's a human side of software too. Two sides, in my opinion. One is working with other people to build things. The other is psychological, we write software to be **used** by people. So understanding how people think, and what they like critically important. "A Year Without Pants" would be a good read. -- Jason Wirth 213.986.5809 wirth.jason at gmail.com On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Japhy Bartlett wrote: > Once you've gone through Design Patterns (or Code Complete), you're > probably going to dig more into whatever particular niche you'd like to > work with, imo. At a certain point, it's more about learning the nuances > of the tools and libraries. > > If you're planning on making a career out of this, "The Mythical Man > Month" is a classic book about building things with teams, and "The Peter > Principle" is a still relevant satire about how organizations become > dysfunctional. > > - Japhy > > On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Philip House < > philiphouse2015 at u.northwestern.edu> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I had some questions about recommended reading for next steps as a >> developer, specifically in Python. For some context, I'm a computer >> science student preparing to graduate and I'm looking to learn more and >> grow my understanding of Python and how it can be used. I've used Python >> for web applications, some basic scripting, and a few other small >> applications. >> >> I've read Code Complete, and I'm currently in the process of reading the >> Pragmatic Programmer, however I'm looking for a more technical book to >> expand my toolset and skillset. Are there any good Python books that you >> would recommend as an aspiring software developer? Or any books that you >> read when you were first getting started that helped a lot? I'm pretty open >> to reading anything that will help! >> >> Thank you! Let me know if there's any other things that would be helpful >> to know in making book recommendations as well :) >> >> Phil >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shekay at pobox.com Tue Dec 30 16:31:02 2014 From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 09:31:02 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Recommended Reading In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Jason Wirth wrote: > "I'm looking for a more technical book to expand my toolset and skillset." > > What do you mean by "technical"? To me technical brings to mind two areas, > the mathematical side and the electrical engineering side of software. > Both are worthy > Technical could also mean books that go in to details about source code, architecture, specific design considerations versus soft books like The Pragmatic Programmer. Would anyone recommend the Seven ___ in Seven Weeks series? e.g. https://pragprog.com/book/pb7con/seven-concurrency-models-in-seven-weeks I haven't worked through them all. -- shekay at pobox.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thomas.j.johnson at gmail.com Tue Dec 30 16:38:47 2014 From: thomas.j.johnson at gmail.com (Thomas Johnson) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 15:38:47 +0000 Subject: [Chicago] Recommended Reading References: Message-ID: My last class in algorithms was over a decade ago, so I'm slowly working my way through Python Algorithms ( http://www.amazon.com/Python-Algorithms-Mastering-Language-Experts/dp/1430232374 ). I can definitely recommend it, particularly if you're going to graduate soon and are going to be preparing for job interviews where you will probably be asked questions about algorithms. The book is quite readable. On Thu Dec 25 2014 at 5:33:43 PM Philip House < philiphouse2015 at u.northwestern.edu> wrote: > Hi all, > > I had some questions about recommended reading for next steps as a > developer, specifically in Python. For some context, I'm a computer > science student preparing to graduate and I'm looking to learn more and > grow my understanding of Python and how it can be used. I've used Python > for web applications, some basic scripting, and a few other small > applications. > > I've read Code Complete, and I'm currently in the process of reading the > Pragmatic Programmer, however I'm looking for a more technical book to > expand my toolset and skillset. Are there any good Python books that you > would recommend as an aspiring software developer? Or any books that you > read when you were first getting started that helped a lot? I'm pretty open > to reading anything that will help! > > Thank you! Let me know if there's any other things that would be helpful > to know in making book recommendations as well :) > > Phil > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foresmac at gmail.com Tue Dec 30 16:51:16 2014 From: foresmac at gmail.com (Chris Foresman) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 09:51:16 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Recommended Reading In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <851B533D-8ED7-44A3-B126-87E22B4E9449@gmail.com> I?d reccommend: - Python in Practice by Mark Summerfield: http://www.amazon.com/dp/0321905636/ref=sr_1_1?tag=foresmac-20 - Python Essential Reference by David Beazley: http://www.amazon.com/dp/0672329786/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?tag=foresmac-20 - Python Cookbook by David Beazley & Brian Jones: http://www.amazon.com/dp/0672329786/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?tag=foresmac-20 David Beazley (@dabeaz) is based in Chicago and runs an intensive Python training program from his office: http://dabeaz.com/chicago/index.html Chris Foresman chris at chrisforesman.com > On Dec 25, 2014, at 5:20 PM, Philip House wrote: > > Hi all, > > I had some questions about recommended reading for next steps as a developer, specifically in Python. For some context, I'm a computer science student preparing to graduate and I'm looking to learn more and grow my understanding of Python and how it can be used. I've used Python for web applications, some basic scripting, and a few other small applications. > > I've read Code Complete, and I'm currently in the process of reading the Pragmatic Programmer, however I'm looking for a more technical book to expand my toolset and skillset. Are there any good Python books that you would recommend as an aspiring software developer? Or any books that you read when you were first getting started that helped a lot? I'm pretty open to reading anything that will help! > > Thank you! Let me know if there's any other things that would be helpful to know in making book recommendations as well :) > > Phil > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From MDiPierro at cs.depaul.edu Tue Dec 30 17:42:42 2014 From: MDiPierro at cs.depaul.edu (DiPierro, Massimo) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 16:42:42 +0000 Subject: [Chicago] Recommended Reading In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Only for this crowd, ;-) Here is an extract of my book: http://www.amazon.com/Annotated-Algorithms-Python-Applications-Physics/dp/0991160401 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18065445/Tmp/annotated_extract.pdf The extract only includes 60 pages with the very basic algorithms normally covered in an intro class on algorithms. The format of the book is very concise. It only provides implementation examples and very brief description of the algorithms themselves. Focus is on applications. Some chapters are assembled from lecture notes from courses I gave at DePaul (CSC321, CSC431, CSC521, and CSC503). Most of the book software can be found here: https://github.com/mdipierro/nlib Massimo On Dec 30, 2014, at 9:38 AM, Thomas Johnson > wrote: My last class in algorithms was over a decade ago, so I'm slowly working my way through Python Algorithms (http://www.amazon.com/Python-Algorithms-Mastering-Language-Experts/dp/1430232374). I can definitely recommend it, particularly if you're going to graduate soon and are going to be preparing for job interviews where you will probably be asked questions about algorithms. The book is quite readable. On Thu Dec 25 2014 at 5:33:43 PM Philip House > wrote: Hi all, I had some questions about recommended reading for next steps as a developer, specifically in Python. For some context, I'm a computer science student preparing to graduate and I'm looking to learn more and grow my understanding of Python and how it can be used. I've used Python for web applications, some basic scripting, and a few other small applications. I've read Code Complete, and I'm currently in the process of reading the Pragmatic Programmer, however I'm looking for a more technical book to expand my toolset and skillset. Are there any good Python books that you would recommend as an aspiring software developer? Or any books that you read when you were first getting started that helped a lot? I'm pretty open to reading anything that will help! Thank you! Let me know if there's any other things that would be helpful to know in making book recommendations as well :) Phil _______________________________________________ Chicago mailing list Chicago at python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago _______________________________________________ Chicago mailing list Chicago at python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago From geoffbrown at comcast.net Wed Dec 31 02:54:24 2014 From: geoffbrown at comcast.net (Geoff Brown) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 19:54:24 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Recommended Reading In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <54A35750.1060903@comcast.net> Philip, If I could only take one book with me on a desert island to get better at programming it would be Skiena, The Algorithm Design Manual. This book just crushed it for me. I consider it a journeyman's course for software development. Taking only one Python book would be almost impossible. ;) These three are the ones I reference the most. The Python Standard Library By Example - (This is really nuts and bolts for the Python language) Mastering Object Oriented Python - ( Everything's an object! ;)) Learning Python Design Patterns - (Great initial exposure to design pattern programming) Geoff > > On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Philip House > > wrote: > > Hi all, > > I had some questions about recommended reading for next steps as a > developer, specifically in Python. For some context, I'm a > computer science student preparing to graduate and I'm looking to > learn more and grow my understanding of Python and how it can be > used. I've used Python for web applications, some basic > scripting, and a few other small applications. > > I've read Code Complete, and I'm currently in the process of > reading the Pragmatic Programmer, however I'm looking for a more > technical book to expand my toolset and skillset. Are there any > good Python books that you would recommend as an aspiring software > developer? Or any books that you read when you were first getting > started that helped a lot? I'm pretty open to reading anything > that will help! > > Thank you! Let me know if there's any other things that would be > helpful to know in making book recommendations as well :) > > Phil > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brianhray at gmail.com Wed Dec 31 03:18:50 2014 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 20:18:50 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Meetup.com integration Message-ID: We have started our meetup.com integration. We will run in parallel for the next couple meetings until integration is complete. Feel free to join the meetup.com group now: http://www.meetup.com/_ChiPy_/ Next month's meeting is looking awesome, feel free to RSVP either place: http://www.meetup.com/_ChiPy_/events/219507641/ AND/OR: http://chipy.org In the months to come, we hope to make it seamless. Also, let me know if there are any experienced Django developers who want to take on this ticket https://github.com/chicagopython/chipy.org/issues/47. Please be sure you have the bandwidth to actually get this done in a timely fashion (6-8 weeks). Warm Regards, Brian and ChiPy Organizers -- Brian Ray @brianray (773) 669-7717 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: