From eric at intellovations.com  Tue Jul  1 17:24:08 2014
From: eric at intellovations.com (Eric Floehr)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 11:24:08 -0400
Subject: [Chicago] PyOhio 2014 Schedule and Registration Deadline
Message-ID: <CAJzarMN0JMjhUGMnDQfQ3zhMF7cTYBvJQmYzz9mw+U4qLXQm6g@mail.gmail.com>

PyOhio 2014 is July 26-27 at the Ohio State University Student Union. The
schedule is posted at http://www.pyohio.org/schedule/  We would love to see
you there!

If you are coming, you'll need to register at
http://pyohio2014.eventbrite.com

Registration is free, but if you'd like to order a t-shirt, please note
that the deadline for doing so is July 6th. There will be extremely limited
conference day t-shirts available for sale, so please order now if you want
one. They are really sharp, and your purchase helps PyOhio!

As always, PyOhio is committed to providing a free conference and free
video afterwards so that all may benefit from the conference. However,
PyOhio costs between $60-$80 per attendee to put on. Costs include venue,
food, video of all talks and tutorials posted for free (another way we
help), programs, etc.

Our sponsors cover much of that cost, so please thank (and frequent) our
sponsors New Relic, Eventbrite, Caktus Group, Olah Healthcare, Github,
Waypaver, CoverMyMeds, Intellovations, WingWare, Red Hat, Finite Loop
Software, BABL Media, and O'Reilly Books. Please also thank the Python
Software Foundation for providing a grant to help us put on two PyKids
camps and help defray the cost of video production.

However, we still need help. If you have benefited from PyOhio and have the
means, please consider a voluntary donation to PyOhio (you can do this when
you register for PyOhio), or volunteering your time to help during the
conference (we need lots of help!). Also, please talk to your employer
about becoming a PyOhio sponsor in 2015.

We look forward to seeing you at PyOhio this year! It's going to be great!
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From brianhray at gmail.com  Wed Jul  2 16:30:22 2014
From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 09:30:22 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] July 10th Venue announced: Vokal Interactive / Mobile
	makers
Message-ID: <CANKg38sT4FsT5daRfDepM4+3WSTqBJrtNvAfuS=nTLDYLuy0zw@mail.gmail.com>

Next Meeting

*When:* July 10, 2014, 7 p.m.

*Where:* Vokal interactive / Mobile makers <http://www.chipy.org/>

223 W Erie St, Suite 4 NW Chicago, IL

-- 
Brian Ray
@brianray
(773) 669-7717
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From emperorcezar at gmail.com  Fri Jul  4 20:19:15 2014
From: emperorcezar at gmail.com (Adam "Cezar" Jenkins)
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 13:19:15 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Anyone interested in a Chipy South?
In-Reply-To: <1403169747.62702.YahooMailBasic@web140201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <CAN6vQqtWXcdnx7FtPpEOoG=RVjp1x0soMrQr0azHXicgDe+oLQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <1403169747.62702.YahooMailBasic@web140201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAN6vQqvXdr5vkFzPi2PCXmY7+raAof2=Thzh8TH6-gsJDF0r8Q@mail.gmail.com>

Anyone up for giving a second talk for our Chipy South meeting?
On Jun 19, 2014 4:27 AM, "Aaron Brady" <ascription at yahoo.com.dmarc.invalid>
wrote:

> Cezar, Here's my program on "meta programming" in lieu, #140.  It's a
> particularly slippery topic.
>
>
> http://home.comcast.net/~castironpi-misc/irc-0140%20argument%20cache%20markup.html
>
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Tue, 6/17/14, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins <emperorcezar at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re: [Chicago] Anyone interested in a Chipy South?
>  To: "The Chicago Python Users Group" <chicago at python.org>
>  Date: Tuesday, June 17, 2014, 5:17 PM
>
>  It can wait
>  till 7/9.
>  On Jun 17, 2014 4:44 PM,
>  "Aaron Brady"
>  <ascription at yahoo.com.dmarc.invalid> wrote:
>
>  Cezar, I can.  Are we doing a "pre-season" on
>  6/18?  Or just wait til 7/9?
>
>
>
>  --------------------------------------------
>
>  On Mon, 6/16/14, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins <emperorcezar at gmail.com>
>  wrote:
>
>
>
>   Subject: Re: [Chicago] Anyone interested in a Chipy
>  South?
>
>   To: "The Chicago Python Users Group" <chicago at python.org>
>
>   Date: Monday, June 16, 2014, 8:08 PM
>
>
>
>   Hi Aaron,
>
>   If you can still make July 9th, I'd love to have
>  you
>
>   talk. Metaprogramming sounded really neat, but anything
>  you
>
>   suggested would be really interesting.
>
>
>
>
>
>   On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Aaron Brady
>  <ascription at yahoo.com.dmarc.invalid>
>
>   wrote:
>
>
>
>   Besides me, you mean?  I listed some topics in an
>  email
>
>   June 8, 2014 9:37 AM.  I also did an "infix to
>
>   postfix" converter and "hypothetical
>
>   assembly" simulator recently.  But I'm not sure
>  I
>
>   could go much longer than an hour, not that you'd
>  want
>
>   me to.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   Does the venue have tables where we could just chat?  Or
>  is
>
>   it a lecture hall layout?
>
>  [snip]
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
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From brianhray at gmail.com  Mon Jul  7 18:14:40 2014
From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 11:14:40 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Presentations for Thursday
Message-ID: <CANKg38vwDKnz2LqrMQq8oVk9wi=BQvOCWUvmQBzgMXD44FUwyA@mail.gmail.com>

Do you have something you want to present? Let's hear it :)

We have a great venue in River North.

This will be the best meeting ever. Amazing!

-- 
Brian Ray
@brianray
(773) 669-7717
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From emperorcezar at gmail.com  Tue Jul  8 02:02:51 2014
From: emperorcezar at gmail.com (Adam "Cezar" Jenkins)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 19:02:51 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] [ANN] ChiPy South Meeting this Wednesday at SpaceLab
Message-ID: <CAN6vQqu=brzvfXb907A0YRcq1EZQSP=5uqjyXSgBjRAMb2Z4kw@mail.gmail.com>

Join us this Wednesday for a very interesting talk and get to know your
fellow South Suburbian Pythonians!

*When:* June 9, 2014, 7 p.m.

*Where:* SpaceLab
*RSVP: *http://www.meetup.com/SpaceLab/events/187955342/ (optional)

*Topic*: Metaprogramming in Python
By: Aaron Brady
Metaprogramming involves generating or modifying code.  In one use case, we
modify a program to wrap all function calls.  The approach uses the Python
Standard "ast" module, which provides access to a tree representing the
syntax of a concrete program.
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From shekay at pobox.com  Tue Jul  8 19:12:44 2014
From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 12:12:44 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Python Project Night, Thursday July 24
Message-ID: <CAHCs_rawOoRgfe5vCWTDO=FoZT53E9m2LfVNT806U=bWeS0Bsw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Everyone,

Once again I would like to announce Python Project Night.


http://www.meetup.com/ChicagoPythonistas/events/193723622/

Come work on Python projects, get programming help, help others, and hang
out.

Bring your own project or work on one of the suggested projects below.
Everyone is welcome, all skill levels are encouraged.

Friendly people will be here to help beginning Python programmers with
language basics and practice.

Audience: Everyone! All Python experience levels are welcome, and
everything is self-paced.

When: 6:30pm - 9:00pm
Where: Braintree
Food: Food will be provided by Braintree

Things to bring: a wireless-enabled laptop and power cord.




-- 
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From brianhray at gmail.com  Tue Jul  8 19:51:49 2014
From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 12:51:49 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Thursday Topic announced
In-Reply-To: <CANKg38tdPDrys6Fb0-U0rWUYRaJUaE0vvWY3Cw+=XakmTyBWBg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANKg38tdPDrys6Fb0-U0rWUYRaJUaE0vvWY3Cw+=XakmTyBWBg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANKg38s1uuYTEbxM31Px07fob2WWP9OFVQpu87e06WZ=cnR2ww@mail.gmail.com>

Propose here: http://www.chipy.org/meetings/topics/propose



On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 12:51 PM, Brian Ray <brianhray at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>    - *Webhooks @ Braintree*
>    By: Brian Lesperance
>    At Braintree, we use Tornado to send thousands of simultaneous webhook
>    requests and Pika to pull incoming webhooks from RabbitMQ. Learn about how
>    we've set it up and problems we've had to overcome with this approach.
>
> RSVP here http://chipy.org
>
> Still looking for a couple more topics. Please propose here:
> http://www.chipy.org/
>
> Cheers! Brian
>
> --
> Brian Ray
> @brianray
> (773) 669-7717
>



-- 
Brian Ray
@brianray
(773) 669-7717
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From brianhray at gmail.com  Tue Jul  8 19:51:16 2014
From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 12:51:16 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Thursday Topic announced
Message-ID: <CANKg38tdPDrys6Fb0-U0rWUYRaJUaE0vvWY3Cw+=XakmTyBWBg@mail.gmail.com>

   - *Webhooks @ Braintree*
   By: Brian Lesperance
   At Braintree, we use Tornado to send thousands of simultaneous webhook
   requests and Pika to pull incoming webhooks from RabbitMQ. Learn about how
   we've set it up and problems we've had to overcome with this approach.

RSVP here http://chipy.org

Still looking for a couple more topics. Please propose here:
http://www.chipy.org/

Cheers! Brian

-- 
Brian Ray
@brianray
(773) 669-7717
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From emperorcezar at gmail.com  Wed Jul  9 03:32:56 2014
From: emperorcezar at gmail.com (Adam "Cezar" Jenkins)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 20:32:56 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] [ANN] ChiPy South Meeting this Wednesday at SpaceLab
In-Reply-To: <CAN6vQqu=brzvfXb907A0YRcq1EZQSP=5uqjyXSgBjRAMb2Z4kw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN6vQqu=brzvfXb907A0YRcq1EZQSP=5uqjyXSgBjRAMb2Z4kw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAN6vQqvSqvUARF9a-Aece2T-eHm_-5_zamatXurHd7Diz7LrUQ@mail.gmail.com>

We've added a second talk!

*Pingo means "pin, go!"*

Luciano Ramalho is a member of Garoa Hacker Clube in Sao Paulo,

Brazil (http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Garoa_Hacker_Clube).

Luciano will tell us about the Pingo project in progress at Garoa HC (
http://www.pingo.io/docs/intro.html). Pingo aims to make interconnecting
small controllers of all sorts easy and transparent, so that they can use
each other's peripherals. An example use case would be using Python on a
Beagle (or similar) to effectively "program" one or more attached Arduinos.

>From the website:

"Pingo provides a uniform API to program devices like the Raspberry Pi,
BeagleBone Black, pcDuino etc. just like the Python DBAPI provides an
uniform API for database programming in Python.

The API is object-oriented but easy to use: a board is an instance of a
Board subclass. Every board has a dictionary called pins which lists all
GPIO pins on the board. Each pin is an instance of a Pin subclass with
attributes that you can inspect to learn about its capabilities."



On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Adam "Cezar" Jenkins <emperorcezar at gmail.com
> wrote:

> Join us this Wednesday for a very interesting talk and get to know your
> fellow South Suburbian Pythonians!
>
> *When:* June 9, 2014, 7 p.m.
>
> *Where:* SpaceLab
> *RSVP: *http://www.meetup.com/SpaceLab/events/187955342/ (optional)
>
> *Topic*: Metaprogramming in Python
> By: Aaron Brady
> Metaprogramming involves generating or modifying code.  In one use case,
> we modify a program to wrap all function calls.  The approach uses the
> Python Standard "ast" module, which provides access to a tree representing
> the syntax of a concrete program.
>
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From brianhray at gmail.com  Thu Jul 10 12:06:50 2014
From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 05:06:50 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] [ANN] ChiPy July monthly meeting *tonight*
Message-ID: <CANKg38ujN-KjW3=1su241=-uung85yaDACxYexqzw7Kuxy56GA@mail.gmail.com>

*When:* July 10, 2014, 7 p.m.

*Where:* Vokal interactive / Mobile makers <http://www.chipy.org/#>

223 W Erie St, Suite 4 NW Chicago, IL


We found a great meeting space JIT. All are welcome to attend. Food
provided by Braintree. Drink provided by Paypal. Best meeting ever...
This Month's Topics

   - *Webhooks @ Braintree*
   (0:20:00 Minutes)
   By: Brian Lesperance
   At Braintree, we use Tornado to send thousands of simultaneous webhook
   requests and Pika to pull incoming webhooks from RabbitMQ. Learn about how
   we've set it up and problems we've had to overcome with this approach.
   - An amazing mystery topic from VOKAL






-- 
Brian Ray
@brianray
(773) 669-7717
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From jdumblauskas at gmail.com  Thu Jul 10 17:33:11 2014
From: jdumblauskas at gmail.com (Jerry Dumblauskas)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 10:33:11 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] [ANN] ChiPy July monthly meeting *tonight*
In-Reply-To: <CANKg38ujN-KjW3=1su241=-uung85yaDACxYexqzw7Kuxy56GA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANKg38ujN-KjW3=1su241=-uung85yaDACxYexqzw7Kuxy56GA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+G_OOu1FZrPbrcj5+2nVfBeb+zttd4FLgD6Dy0cFqiPUnFOug@mail.gmail.com>

Here are the instructions to get in -- we'll have people around as well

thx

Jerry

Here?s the code for the front door for your event: 47229 (this can be
shared with your group)

Guests should dial 0403 at the buzzer by the front door.

They should then press 2 to ?Talk to a computer?.

It will say ?This is a computer, I?m listening?. They should then enter the
door code to be let in.

We?ll put the Mobile Makers sign downstairs and another one by the door on
the 4th floor to help people know where to go.


On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 5:06 AM, Brian Ray <brianhray at gmail.com> wrote:

> *When:* July 10, 2014, 7 p.m.
>
> *Where:* Vokal interactive / Mobile makers <http://www.chipy.org/#>
>
> 223 W Erie St, Suite 4 NW Chicago, IL
>
>
> We found a great meeting space JIT. All are welcome to attend. Food
> provided by Braintree. Drink provided by Paypal. Best meeting ever...
> This Month's Topics
>
>    - *Webhooks @ Braintree*
>    (0:20:00 Minutes)
>    By: Brian Lesperance
>    At Braintree, we use Tornado to send thousands of simultaneous webhook
>    requests and Pika to pull incoming webhooks from RabbitMQ. Learn about how
>    we've set it up and problems we've had to overcome with this approach.
>    - An amazing mystery topic from VOKAL
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Brian Ray
> @brianray
> (773) 669-7717
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>
>
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From shekay at pobox.com  Thu Jul 10 17:58:43 2014
From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 10:58:43 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Open Source Comes to Campus planning for this fall
Message-ID: <CAHCs_rZ8_p2ssWV7VzwKzQSeBRdBfYa8rkgD=EfZe51J8HLtRQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello my user groups,

I've helped with Open Sources Comes to Campus a couple of times and enjoyed
it a great deal. I'd love to help with more events. Shauna is the director
of OSCtC and is in the planning stages for the fall. Let me know if you'd
like to help with an event at your school, or for a group of schools. We
can get all the Chicago area people in contact for planning.

Here's more about the project:

http://campus.openhatch.org/


-- 
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From ascription at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 13 01:38:55 2014
From: ascription at yahoo.com (Aaron Brady)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 16:38:55 -0700
Subject: [Chicago] Windows API ctypes bug
Message-ID: <1405208335.84473.YahooMailBasic@web140205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Hi guys, Just thought I'd ask about a weird bug.

Calling the Windows API through "ctypes".  The bug doesn't happen if: comment out another line, print before the call, call the ANSI version (instead of Unicode), run on the 32-bit build, run in 3.3, or run on a home-compiled build.  3.4-x64 and 3.4.1-x64 only.  But it does happen consistently (not even threading).  Program:

http://home.comcast.net/~castironpi-misc/gui%2002c%20mdi%20-%20bug%20fork%20markup.html

Error:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "D:\working\gui 02c mdi - bug fork.py", line 41, in <module>
    mdi_child= user32.CreateWindowExW( wd.WS_EX_MDICHILD, mdichild_wnd_class_id, "child window", wd.WS_CHILD, 10, 50, 200, 200, mdi_client, 0, 0, 0 )
OSError: exception: access violation reading 0x000000150000C268

If you could help out I'd appreciate it, even brainstorming since I'm even running out of leads at this point, since it works fine in the source.  For one, can anyone else get a repro in 3.4, or could it be just my machine?


From randy7771026 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 13 05:42:46 2014
From: randy7771026 at gmail.com (Randy Baxley)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 22:42:46 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Windows API ctypes bug
In-Reply-To: <1405208335.84473.YahooMailBasic@web140205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1405208335.84473.YahooMailBasic@web140205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAMqL=ijxubj8H_SSUMrFPZJ=1dtzteL8=QQFE-3erGeZwxvTGw@mail.gmail.com>

Are the comparable cases both using the same version of windows.  There
were in '79 two versions of FORTRAN IV for IBM VS in which a program ran
fine in both except that in one it read from areas that were not memory
allocated to that program.  This could only be seen if one of the other 15
possible programs were noticed to have results in error or by doing a core
dump.


On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 6:38 PM, Aaron Brady <
ascription at yahoo.com.dmarc.invalid> wrote:

> Hi guys, Just thought I'd ask about a weird bug.
>
> Calling the Windows API through "ctypes".  The bug doesn't happen if:
> comment out another line, print before the call, call the ANSI version
> (instead of Unicode), run on the 32-bit build, run in 3.3, or run on a
> home-compiled build.  3.4-x64 and 3.4.1-x64 only.  But it does happen
> consistently (not even threading).  Program:
>
>
> http://home.comcast.net/~castironpi-misc/gui%2002c%20mdi%20-%20bug%20fork%20markup.html
>
> Error:
>
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "D:\working\gui 02c mdi - bug fork.py", line 41, in <module>
>     mdi_child= user32.CreateWindowExW( wd.WS_EX_MDICHILD,
> mdichild_wnd_class_id, "child window", wd.WS_CHILD, 10, 50, 200, 200,
> mdi_client, 0, 0, 0 )
> OSError: exception: access violation reading 0x000000150000C268
>
> If you could help out I'd appreciate it, even brainstorming since I'm even
> running out of leads at this point, since it works fine in the source.  For
> one, can anyone else get a repro in 3.4, or could it be just my machine?
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>
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From ascription at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 13 10:15:26 2014
From: ascription at yahoo.com (Aaron Brady)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 01:15:26 -0700
Subject: [Chicago] Windows API ctypes bug
In-Reply-To: <CAMqL=ijxubj8H_SSUMrFPZJ=1dtzteL8=QQFE-3erGeZwxvTGw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1405239326.35280.YahooMailBasic@web140205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Bottom posting?  Well then, why don't Wx, Tk, or Qt have a "two-window async IO" widget?  It would be really useful for thread debugging.

Also: How do you stuff a PyObject pointer in the "GetWindowLong" fields?  Just increment the reference count?

I am working on a minimal MDI template, a widget which Linux apparently lacks.

http://home.comcast.net/~castironpi-misc/gui%2002c%20mdi%20markup.html

Note: You can receive socket activity in the main message loop in Windows without polling, with the "WSA Async Select" function, as sockets are such a prevalent case.


--------------------------------------------
On Sat, 7/12/14, Randy Baxley <randy7771026 at gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Chicago] Windows API ctypes bug
 To: "The Chicago Python Users Group" <chicago at python.org>
 Date: Saturday, July 12, 2014, 10:42 PM
 
 Are the
 comparable cases both using the same version of windows.
 ?There were in '79 two versions of FORTRAN IV for IBM
 VS in which a program ran fine in both except that in one it
 read from areas that were not memory allocated to that
 program. ?This could only be seen if one of the other 15
 possible programs were noticed to have results in error or
 by doing a core dump. ?
 
 
 On Sat,
 Jul 12, 2014 at 6:38 PM, Aaron Brady <ascription at yahoo.com.dmarc.invalid>
 wrote:
 
 Hi
 guys, Just thought I'd ask about a weird bug.
 
 
 
 Calling the Windows API through "ctypes". ?The
 bug doesn't happen if: comment out another line, print
 before the call, call the ANSI version (instead of Unicode),
 run on the 32-bit build, run in 3.3, or run on a
 home-compiled build. ?3.4-x64 and 3.4.1-x64 only. ?But it
 does happen consistently (not even threading). ?Program:
 
 
 
 
 http://home.comcast.net/~castironpi-misc/gui%2002c%20mdi%20-%20bug%20fork%20markup.html
 
 
 
 Error:
 
 
 
 Traceback (most recent call last):
 
 ? File "D:\working\gui 02c mdi - bug
 fork.py", line 41, in <module>
 
 ? ? mdi_child= user32.CreateWindowExW( wd.WS_EX_MDICHILD,
 mdichild_wnd_class_id, "child window",
 wd.WS_CHILD, 10, 50, 200, 200, mdi_client, 0, 0, 0 )
 
 OSError: exception: access violation reading
 0x000000150000C268
 
 
 
 If you could help out I'd appreciate it, even
 brainstorming since I'm even running out of leads at
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From pkpp1233 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 15 20:06:57 2014
From: pkpp1233 at gmail.com (Paul Katsen)
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 13:06:57 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] built app to auto-generate UI for scripts.
Message-ID: <CACFjNe6QAuQLtJ2Xwk6JTJe+YSjDE40mzc_74j-3v3mq=Uh9Kw@mail.gmail.com>

Hey ya'll.

I kept needing to teach non-engineers how to use the terminal to run
scripts. Decided to just hack up a site last week where you can copy/paste
your script in, select inputs for your script, and you get a shareable link
to run your code.

Check it out - would love your feedback: https://python.blockspring.com/.

-Paul
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From japhy at pearachute.com  Tue Jul 15 20:21:47 2014
From: japhy at pearachute.com (Japhy Bartlett)
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 13:21:47 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] built app to auto-generate UI for scripts.
In-Reply-To: <CACFjNe6QAuQLtJ2Xwk6JTJe+YSjDE40mzc_74j-3v3mq=Uh9Kw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACFjNe6QAuQLtJ2Xwk6JTJe+YSjDE40mzc_74j-3v3mq=Uh9Kw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANTsVHKniH2eNExP8pneFA_ix3iMXDPsFwH_GgN1cp1VLvGkBw@mail.gmail.com>

you're kind of sandboxed at least because you're running in docker, but
this is very vulnerable to malicious code!

import subprocess
subprocess.call('whoami')


> root


On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Paul Katsen <pkpp1233 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey ya'll.
>
> I kept needing to teach non-engineers how to use the terminal to run
> scripts. Decided to just hack up a site last week where you can copy/paste
> your script in, select inputs for your script, and you get a shareable link
> to run your code.
>
> Check it out - would love your feedback: https://python.blockspring.com/.
>
>  -Paul
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>
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From pkpp1233 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 15 20:33:47 2014
From: pkpp1233 at gmail.com (Paul Katsen)
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 13:33:47 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] built app to auto-generate UI for scripts.
In-Reply-To: <CANTsVHKniH2eNExP8pneFA_ix3iMXDPsFwH_GgN1cp1VLvGkBw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACFjNe6QAuQLtJ2Xwk6JTJe+YSjDE40mzc_74j-3v3mq=Uh9Kw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANTsVHKniH2eNExP8pneFA_ix3iMXDPsFwH_GgN1cp1VLvGkBw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACFjNe5z69LObWYpjX_raMEje3G7X7pg6B8tiP5s37qFPc2gcg@mail.gmail.com>

any advice on how to sandbox even more? i know sites like Udacity and
Coursera are running arbitrary code too.


On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Japhy Bartlett <japhy at pearachute.com>
wrote:

> you're kind of sandboxed at least because you're running in docker, but
> this is very vulnerable to malicious code!
>
> import subprocess
> subprocess.call('whoami')
>
>
> > root
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Paul Katsen <pkpp1233 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey ya'll.
>>
>> I kept needing to teach non-engineers how to use the terminal to run
>> scripts. Decided to just hack up a site last week where you can copy/paste
>> your script in, select inputs for your script, and you get a shareable link
>> to run your code.
>>
>> Check it out - would love your feedback: https://python.blockspring.com/.
>>
>>  -Paul
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From joe at germuska.com  Tue Jul 15 20:39:43 2014
From: joe at germuska.com (Joe Germuska)
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 13:39:43 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] built app to auto-generate UI for scripts.
In-Reply-To: <CACFjNe5z69LObWYpjX_raMEje3G7X7pg6B8tiP5s37qFPc2gcg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACFjNe6QAuQLtJ2Xwk6JTJe+YSjDE40mzc_74j-3v3mq=Uh9Kw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANTsVHKniH2eNExP8pneFA_ix3iMXDPsFwH_GgN1cp1VLvGkBw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CACFjNe5z69LObWYpjX_raMEje3G7X7pg6B8tiP5s37qFPc2gcg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <120C8937-461E-4303-A66B-BE18F343AE1D@germuska.com>

Hey, Paul:

I don?t have direct experience, but see
https://wiki.python.org/moin/SandboxedPython
and
https://wiki.python.org/moin/Asking%20for%20Help/How%20can%20I%20run%20an%20untrusted%20Python%20script%20safely%20%28i.e.%20Sandbox%29

Joe

On Jul 15, 2014, at 1:33 PM, Paul Katsen <pkpp1233 at gmail.com> wrote:

> any advice on how to sandbox even more? i know sites like Udacity and Coursera are running arbitrary code too.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Japhy Bartlett <japhy at pearachute.com> wrote:
> you're kind of sandboxed at least because you're running in docker, but this is very vulnerable to malicious code!
> 
> import subprocess
> subprocess.call('whoami')
> 
> 
> > root
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Paul Katsen <pkpp1233 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey ya'll. 
> 
> I kept needing to teach non-engineers how to use the terminal to run scripts. Decided to just hack up a site last week where you can copy/paste your script in, select inputs for your script, and you get a shareable link to run your code.
> 
> Check it out - would love your feedback: https://python.blockspring.com/.
> 
> -Paul
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Chicago at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
> 
> 
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From francis.kayiwa at gmail.com  Tue Jul 15 21:12:08 2014
From: francis.kayiwa at gmail.com (Francis Kayiwa)
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 15:12:08 -0400
Subject: [Chicago] Django Web Developer position at UIC
Message-ID: <CAMcEtiRQ1fh_fsVUoQ02J-N4X0-=-nCMgYMkzv-QZCN7fRgVaw@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Chipy,

I am no longer in Chicago but my former employer is looking for a Web
Developer specifically one with Django experience. More details can be
found in the URI below. If you have any questions do let me know.

https://jobs.uic.edu/job-board/job-details?jobID=43353

Cheers,
./fxk

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From japhy at pearachute.com  Tue Jul 15 21:14:08 2014
From: japhy at pearachute.com (Japhy Bartlett)
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 14:14:08 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] built app to auto-generate UI for scripts.
In-Reply-To: <120C8937-461E-4303-A66B-BE18F343AE1D@germuska.com>
References: <CACFjNe6QAuQLtJ2Xwk6JTJe+YSjDE40mzc_74j-3v3mq=Uh9Kw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANTsVHKniH2eNExP8pneFA_ix3iMXDPsFwH_GgN1cp1VLvGkBw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CACFjNe5z69LObWYpjX_raMEje3G7X7pg6B8tiP5s37qFPc2gcg@mail.gmail.com>
 <120C8937-461E-4303-A66B-BE18F343AE1D@germuska.com>
Message-ID: <CANTsVHJ-v1EwPvTwm9Yt9F=2ZfvTdJ78ziEFLB2PJt=B_7+NkQ@mail.gmail.com>

The last I heard this was just a Bad Idea, from python-dev back in the day:

http://lwn.net/Articles/321872/


I guess since docker is pretty ephemeral you can live with a container
being taken down.  Regularly nuke them and rebuild to keep malware out.
 Rate limit new creations and CPU/memory usage somehow?

Definitely check your firewalls to keep anyone from launching spam or DDOS
attacks from your servers..

This just seems like a massive liability, not sure how Coursera or anyone
is getting away with it.  Is it restricted to verified users somehow?


On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Joe Germuska <joe at germuska.com> wrote:

> Hey, Paul:
>
> I don?t have direct experience, but see
> https://wiki.python.org/moin/SandboxedPython
> and
>
> https://wiki.python.org/moin/Asking%20for%20Help/How%20can%20I%20run%20an%20untrusted%20Python%20script%20safely%20%28i.e.%20Sandbox%29
> <https://wiki.python.org/moin/Asking%20for%20Help/How%20can%20I%20run%20an%20untrusted%20Python%20script%20safely%20(i.e.%20Sandbox)>
>
> Joe
>
> On Jul 15, 2014, at 1:33 PM, Paul Katsen <pkpp1233 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> any advice on how to sandbox even more? i know sites like Udacity and
> Coursera are running arbitrary code too.
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Japhy Bartlett <japhy at pearachute.com>
> wrote:
>
>> you're kind of sandboxed at least because you're running in docker, but
>> this is very vulnerable to malicious code!
>>
>> import subprocess
>> subprocess.call('whoami')
>>
>>
>> > root
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Paul Katsen <pkpp1233 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey ya'll.
>>>
>>> I kept needing to teach non-engineers how to use the terminal to run
>>> scripts. Decided to just hack up a site last week where you can copy/paste
>>> your script in, select inputs for your script, and you get a shareable link
>>> to run your code.
>>>
>>> Check it out - would love your feedback: https://python.blockspring.com/
>>> .
>>>
>>>  -Paul
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Chicago mailing list
>>> Chicago at python.org
>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>
>
> --
> Joe Germuska
> Joe at Germuska.com * http://blog.germuska.com *
> http://twitter.com/JoeGermuska
>
> "Learn to fear any church that fears drums." --Regie Gibson
>
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From pkpp1233 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 15 22:17:20 2014
From: pkpp1233 at gmail.com (Paul Katsen)
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 15:17:20 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] built app to auto-generate UI for scripts.
In-Reply-To: <CANTsVHJ-v1EwPvTwm9Yt9F=2ZfvTdJ78ziEFLB2PJt=B_7+NkQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACFjNe6QAuQLtJ2Xwk6JTJe+YSjDE40mzc_74j-3v3mq=Uh9Kw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANTsVHKniH2eNExP8pneFA_ix3iMXDPsFwH_GgN1cp1VLvGkBw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CACFjNe5z69LObWYpjX_raMEje3G7X7pg6B8tiP5s37qFPc2gcg@mail.gmail.com>
 <120C8937-461E-4303-A66B-BE18F343AE1D@germuska.com>
 <CANTsVHJ-v1EwPvTwm9Yt9F=2ZfvTdJ78ziEFLB2PJt=B_7+NkQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACFjNe6_0pp-+yojzGi_i162cSK9KLbkd2kB3ULFk-frQ9abzQ@mail.gmail.com>

Setting up rate limit today. Right now the container just times-out. And
you're right, container being taken down is no problem b/c I'm running one
for each script. There has to be a secure way to pull this off.

Right now you have to sign up to publish, but you can run code
unrestricted. Just testing if quickly publishing scripts is valuable at all.


On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Japhy Bartlett <japhy at pearachute.com>
wrote:

> The last I heard this was just a Bad Idea, from python-dev back in the day:
>
> http://lwn.net/Articles/321872/
>
>
> I guess since docker is pretty ephemeral you can live with a container
> being taken down.  Regularly nuke them and rebuild to keep malware out.
>  Rate limit new creations and CPU/memory usage somehow?
>
> Definitely check your firewalls to keep anyone from launching spam or DDOS
> attacks from your servers..
>
> This just seems like a massive liability, not sure how Coursera or anyone
> is getting away with it.  Is it restricted to verified users somehow?
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Joe Germuska <joe at germuska.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey, Paul:
>>
>> I don?t have direct experience, but see
>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/SandboxedPython
>> and
>>
>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/Asking%20for%20Help/How%20can%20I%20run%20an%20untrusted%20Python%20script%20safely%20%28i.e.%20Sandbox%29
>> <https://wiki.python.org/moin/Asking%20for%20Help/How%20can%20I%20run%20an%20untrusted%20Python%20script%20safely%20(i.e.%20Sandbox)>
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> On Jul 15, 2014, at 1:33 PM, Paul Katsen <pkpp1233 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> any advice on how to sandbox even more? i know sites like Udacity and
>> Coursera are running arbitrary code too.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Japhy Bartlett <japhy at pearachute.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> you're kind of sandboxed at least because you're running in docker, but
>>> this is very vulnerable to malicious code!
>>>
>>> import subprocess
>>> subprocess.call('whoami')
>>>
>>>
>>> > root
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Paul Katsen <pkpp1233 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey ya'll.
>>>>
>>>> I kept needing to teach non-engineers how to use the terminal to run
>>>> scripts. Decided to just hack up a site last week where you can copy/paste
>>>> your script in, select inputs for your script, and you get a shareable link
>>>> to run your code.
>>>>
>>>> Check it out - would love your feedback:
>>>> https://python.blockspring.com/.
>>>>
>>>>  -Paul
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Chicago mailing list
>>>> Chicago at python.org
>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Chicago mailing list
>>> Chicago at python.org
>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>
>>
>> --
>> Joe Germuska
>> Joe at Germuska.com * http://blog.germuska.com *
>> http://twitter.com/JoeGermuska
>>
>> "Learn to fear any church that fears drums." --Regie Gibson
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>
>>
>
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From emperorcezar at gmail.com  Mon Jul 21 19:47:33 2014
From: emperorcezar at gmail.com (Adam "Cezar" Jenkins)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 12:47:33 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] South Suburban Maker Space
Message-ID: <CAN6vQqsugKdgLu+w8KvHo9GNiazLWcuusgV0v_n6BGLAT3FzWQ@mail.gmail.com>

The space where the Chipy South meeting was held is having a kickstarter
that is wrapping up soon. We're very close to our goal and if you're
interested, the reward tiers include memberships. Either for you, or you
can donate a membership to an area youth.

Check it out.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jayrm/spacelab-a-south-suburban-chicago-makerspace
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From shekay at pobox.com  Tue Jul 22 20:30:00 2014
From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 13:30:00 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Python Project Night this Thursday, hey btw, videos
Message-ID: <CAHCs_rbuf5gUt3h9TJARD2xpgbnaQyPQw-HfqXxntNGrtxvvxA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi everyone,

Python Project Night is this Thursday, Jul 24. Read about it here, and sign
up. http://www.meetup.com/ChicagoPythonistas/events/193723622/

Come work on Python projects, get programming help, help others, and hang
out.

Braintree is providing food for us.

In other news, I was at SciPy. If you missed it, check out the videos
http://pyvideo.org/category/51/scipy-2014

And as a bonus, Carl was at BOSC for the Open Bio track the same week, and
recorded those talks,
http://video.open-bio.org/video/1/a-history-of-bioinformatics-in-the-year-2039
is in the spirit of the Death of Yavascript.

-- 
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From dinaldo at gmail.com  Tue Jul 22 21:40:23 2014
From: dinaldo at gmail.com (Don Sheu)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 12:40:23 -0700
Subject: [Chicago] Inaugural Meeting PuPy (pronounced puppy) Puget Sound
	Python
Message-ID: <CACvX9QBheyk9x1W_r+E2waXUMjTzb564YE0DYcr8KZ1hFh0PUQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi everybody, anybody traveling to Seattle 8/9, or if you know of any
Python folks in the area, please let them know about PuPy
<http://pupyug.org>'s 1st meeting.

PuPy?s first meeting will be August 9th at Facebook?s Seattle office. Our
focus will be women and code. We?re fortunate to have several great
speakers who have been active through many diverse organizations with
different tactics to encourage more girls and women to explore STEM
careers. Special guest traveling from San Francisco to join us is Lynn
Root, founder of PyLadies SF.

2:00   Doors Open

2:30   Kamila Stepnioska on Girl Geek Carrots

2:40   Steph Burg & Krista Davis speak on Aspirations in Computing

2:50   Stephanie Kim on PyLadies Seattle

3:00   Kristin Smith and Cris Ewing on Code Fellows

3:10   Lynn Root of PyLadies SF

3:20   Break beverages set out; Entry for people only interested in panel

3:45   Resume with Panel

4:45   Break for networking

5:30   To after-party

More details at http://pupyug.org
RSVP at Eventbrite here,
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/inaugural-pupy-puget-sound-python-meeting-tickets-12069288567

-- 
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(312) 880-9389

  *Apply to join us at www.openforcetour.org
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From gvelazquez at DRWHoldings.com  Tue Jul 22 22:34:58 2014
From: gvelazquez at DRWHoldings.com (Gabe Velazquez)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 20:34:58 +0000
Subject: [Chicago] We're seeking a Python Developer w/ DevOps
Message-ID: <4967FBC80BF78240B0DC254FE77AD9C932858D5E@SWP-CHIEXCHML01.US.DRWHoldings.com>

Hi Chipy,

DRW Trading Group, an innovative proprietary trading firm in Chicago, is looking for a Python Developer with DevOps experience. More details can be found at the following URL:
http://drw.submit4jobs.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=83084.viewjobdetail&CID=83084&JID=166070

If you're interested, drop me an email with your info at gvelazquez at DRW.com<mailto:gvelazquez at DRW.com>.  Thanks in advance for taking a look!

Gabe Velazquez | DRW Trading Group
gvelazquez at drw.com<mailto:gvelazquez at drw.com>
540 West Madison Street, Suite 2500
Chicago, IL 60661
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From brianhray at gmail.com  Tue Jul 22 23:14:04 2014
From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 16:14:04 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Inaugural Meeting PuPy (pronounced puppy) Puget Sound
	Python
In-Reply-To: <CACvX9QBheyk9x1W_r+E2waXUMjTzb564YE0DYcr8KZ1hFh0PUQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACvX9QBheyk9x1W_r+E2waXUMjTzb564YE0DYcr8KZ1hFh0PUQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANKg38u5cPSFnoFvghKSePH7Ydz0v-WbYfC7hy_qbGM0tHHGRA@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Don:

Wow, thanks for sharing with the list.

ChiPy organizers met today with some of Chicago's top women leaders to
discuss collaboration and involvement for hosting a special event. If you
know anyone who you know in this area, please have them contact me off the
list.





On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Don Sheu <dinaldo at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi everybody, anybody traveling to Seattle 8/9, or if you know of any
> Python folks in the area, please let them know about PuPy
> <http://pupyug.org>'s 1st meeting.
>
> PuPy?s first meeting will be August 9th at Facebook?s Seattle office. Our
> focus will be women and code. We?re fortunate to have several great
> speakers who have been active through many diverse organizations with
> different tactics to encourage more girls and women to explore STEM
> careers. Special guest traveling from San Francisco to join us is Lynn
> Root, founder of PyLadies SF.
>
> 2:00   Doors Open
>
> 2:30   Kamila Stepnioska on Girl Geek Carrots
>
> 2:40   Steph Burg & Krista Davis speak on Aspirations in Computing
>
> 2:50   Stephanie Kim on PyLadies Seattle
>
> 3:00   Kristin Smith and Cris Ewing on Code Fellows
>
> 3:10   Lynn Root of PyLadies SF
>
> 3:20   Break beverages set out; Entry for people only interested in panel
>
> 3:45   Resume with Panel
>
> 4:45   Break for networking
>
> 5:30   To after-party
>
> More details at http://pupyug.org
> RSVP at Eventbrite here,
> https://www.eventbrite.com/e/inaugural-pupy-puget-sound-python-meeting-tickets-12069288567
>
> --
> Don Sheu
> (312) 880-9389
>
>   *Apply to join us at www.openforcetour.org
> <http://www.openforcetour.org/>*
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From dinaldo at gmail.com  Tue Jul 22 23:39:53 2014
From: dinaldo at gmail.com (Don Sheu)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 14:39:53 -0700
Subject: [Chicago] Inaugural Meeting PuPy (pronounced puppy) Puget Sound
	Python
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I'll ask around. Hopefully some of the speakers will have thoughts. One
good resource is National Center for Women and IT. Steph Burg of Microsoft
and Krista Davis of Google both organize the NCWIT Aspirations in Computing
Washington state award.

NCWIT is a partner in Google's announcement to give $50 million for coding
education for women and minorities. Here's a link to Illinois' award,
http://www.aspirations.org/aspirations-community/illinois

I'd imagine Brian Fitzpatrick may be able to track down some resources from
Google. I hope Google's *Made with Code *initiative is investing heavily in
Chicago.

Seattle as a city is aggressively trying to address gender and minority
representation in tech. The City appointed Rebecca Lovell a woman as the
official city Startup liaison.

It'd be great to see Mayor Emanuel take a similar step in encouraging women
and minorities in tech.




On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Brian Ray <brianhray at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Don:
>
> Wow, thanks for sharing with the list.
>
> ChiPy organizers met today with some of Chicago's top women leaders to
> discuss collaboration and involvement for hosting a special event. If you
> know anyone who you know in this area, please have them contact me off the
> list.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Don Sheu <dinaldo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi everybody, anybody traveling to Seattle 8/9, or if you know of any
>> Python folks in the area, please let them know about PuPy
>> <http://pupyug.org>'s 1st meeting.
>>
>> PuPy?s first meeting will be August 9th at Facebook?s Seattle office. Our
>> focus will be women and code. We?re fortunate to have several great
>> speakers who have been active through many diverse organizations with
>> different tactics to encourage more girls and women to explore STEM
>> careers. Special guest traveling from San Francisco to join us is Lynn
>> Root, founder of PyLadies SF.
>>
>> 2:00   Doors Open
>>
>> 2:30   Kamila Stepnioska on Girl Geek Carrots
>>
>> 2:40   Steph Burg & Krista Davis speak on Aspirations in Computing
>>
>> 2:50   Stephanie Kim on PyLadies Seattle
>>
>> 3:00   Kristin Smith and Cris Ewing on Code Fellows
>>
>> 3:10   Lynn Root of PyLadies SF
>>
>> 3:20   Break beverages set out; Entry for people only interested in panel
>>
>> 3:45   Resume with Panel
>>
>> 4:45   Break for networking
>>
>> 5:30   To after-party
>>
>> More details at http://pupyug.org
>> RSVP at Eventbrite here,
>> https://www.eventbrite.com/e/inaugural-pupy-puget-sound-python-meeting-tickets-12069288567
>>
>> --
>> Don Sheu
>> (312) 880-9389
>>
>>   *Apply to join us at www.openforcetour.org
>> <http://www.openforcetour.org/>*
>>
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>> be protected trade secrets or protected by applicable intellectual property
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From carl at personnelware.com  Wed Jul 23 00:55:24 2014
From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 17:55:24 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] built app to auto-generate UI for scripts.
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What makes Python great is that you can do really powerful stuff pretty
easy.

too bad cuz you don't want that here.

Here is a smart person talking about it.
http://pyvideo.org/video/2585/building-and-breaking-a-python-sandbox




On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Paul Katsen <pkpp1233 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Setting up rate limit today. Right now the container just times-out. And
> you're right, container being taken down is no problem b/c I'm running one
> for each script. There has to be a secure way to pull this off.
>
> Right now you have to sign up to publish, but you can run code
> unrestricted. Just testing if quickly publishing scripts is valuable at all.
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Japhy Bartlett <japhy at pearachute.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The last I heard this was just a Bad Idea, from python-dev back in the
>> day:
>>
>> http://lwn.net/Articles/321872/
>>
>>
>> I guess since docker is pretty ephemeral you can live with a container
>> being taken down.  Regularly nuke them and rebuild to keep malware out.
>>  Rate limit new creations and CPU/memory usage somehow?
>>
>> Definitely check your firewalls to keep anyone from launching spam or
>> DDOS attacks from your servers..
>>
>> This just seems like a massive liability, not sure how Coursera or anyone
>> is getting away with it.  Is it restricted to verified users somehow?
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Joe Germuska <joe at germuska.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey, Paul:
>>>
>>> I don?t have direct experience, but see
>>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/SandboxedPython
>>> and
>>>
>>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/Asking%20for%20Help/How%20can%20I%20run%20an%20untrusted%20Python%20script%20safely%20%28i.e.%20Sandbox%29
>>> <https://wiki.python.org/moin/Asking%20for%20Help/How%20can%20I%20run%20an%20untrusted%20Python%20script%20safely%20(i.e.%20Sandbox)>
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>> On Jul 15, 2014, at 1:33 PM, Paul Katsen <pkpp1233 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> any advice on how to sandbox even more? i know sites like Udacity and
>>> Coursera are running arbitrary code too.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Japhy Bartlett <japhy at pearachute.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> you're kind of sandboxed at least because you're running in docker, but
>>>> this is very vulnerable to malicious code!
>>>>
>>>> import subprocess
>>>> subprocess.call('whoami')
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > root
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Paul Katsen <pkpp1233 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey ya'll.
>>>>>
>>>>> I kept needing to teach non-engineers how to use the terminal to run
>>>>> scripts. Decided to just hack up a site last week where you can copy/paste
>>>>> your script in, select inputs for your script, and you get a shareable link
>>>>> to run your code.
>>>>>
>>>>> Check it out - would love your feedback:
>>>>> https://python.blockspring.com/.
>>>>>
>>>>>  -Paul
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Chicago mailing list
>>>>> Chicago at python.org
>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Chicago mailing list
>>>> Chicago at python.org
>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>>
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Chicago mailing list
>>> Chicago at python.org
>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Joe Germuska
>>> Joe at Germuska.com * http://blog.germuska.com *
>>> http://twitter.com/JoeGermuska
>>>
>>> "Learn to fear any church that fears drums." --Regie Gibson
>>>
>>>
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>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
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>>>
>>
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From lpsukumar at gmail.com  Wed Jul 23 03:47:49 2014
From: lpsukumar at gmail.com (Lakhsmipriya Sukumar)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 20:47:49 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Inaugural Meeting PuPy (pronounced puppy) Puget Sound
	Python
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Hello Don Sheu,
It is interesting to know there is a support for women and minorities in
tech. Is there any age restriction for women to be considered.

Thanks
Lakshmi


On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Don Sheu <dinaldo at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'll ask around. Hopefully some of the speakers will have thoughts. One
> good resource is National Center for Women and IT. Steph Burg of Microsoft
> and Krista Davis of Google both organize the NCWIT Aspirations in Computing
> Washington state award.
>
> NCWIT is a partner in Google's announcement to give $50 million for coding
> education for women and minorities. Here's a link to Illinois' award,
> http://www.aspirations.org/aspirations-community/illinois
>
> I'd imagine Brian Fitzpatrick may be able to track down some resources
> from Google. I hope Google's *Made with Code *initiative is investing
> heavily in Chicago.
>
> Seattle as a city is aggressively trying to address gender and minority
> representation in tech. The City appointed Rebecca Lovell a woman as the
> official city Startup liaison.
>
> It'd be great to see Mayor Emanuel take a similar step in encouraging
> women and minorities in tech.
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Brian Ray <brianhray at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey Don:
>>
>> Wow, thanks for sharing with the list.
>>
>> ChiPy organizers met today with some of Chicago's top women leaders to
>> discuss collaboration and involvement for hosting a special event. If you
>> know anyone who you know in this area, please have them contact me off the
>> list.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Don Sheu <dinaldo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everybody, anybody traveling to Seattle 8/9, or if you know of any
>>> Python folks in the area, please let them know about PuPy
>>> <http://pupyug.org>'s 1st meeting.
>>>
>>> PuPy?s first meeting will be August 9th at Facebook?s Seattle office.
>>> Our focus will be women and code. We?re fortunate to have several great
>>> speakers who have been active through many diverse organizations with
>>> different tactics to encourage more girls and women to explore STEM
>>> careers. Special guest traveling from San Francisco to join us is Lynn
>>> Root, founder of PyLadies SF.
>>>
>>> 2:00   Doors Open
>>>
>>> 2:30   Kamila Stepnioska on Girl Geek Carrots
>>>
>>> 2:40   Steph Burg & Krista Davis speak on Aspirations in Computing
>>>
>>> 2:50   Stephanie Kim on PyLadies Seattle
>>>
>>> 3:00   Kristin Smith and Cris Ewing on Code Fellows
>>>
>>> 3:10   Lynn Root of PyLadies SF
>>>
>>> 3:20   Break beverages set out; Entry for people only interested in panel
>>>
>>> 3:45   Resume with Panel
>>>
>>> 4:45   Break for networking
>>>
>>> 5:30   To after-party
>>>
>>> More details at http://pupyug.org
>>> RSVP at Eventbrite here,
>>> https://www.eventbrite.com/e/inaugural-pupy-puget-sound-python-meeting-tickets-12069288567
>>>
>>> --
>>> Don Sheu
>>> (312) 880-9389
>>>
>>>   *Apply to join us at www.openforcetour.org
>>> <http://www.openforcetour.org/>*
>>>
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>>> may be protected trade secrets or protected by applicable intellectual
>>> property laws of the United States and International agreements. If you
>>> believe that it has been sent to you in error, do not read it. Please
>>> immediately reply to the sender that you have received the message in
>>> error. Then delete it. Thank you.*
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Chicago mailing list
>>> Chicago at python.org
>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Brian Ray
>> @brianray
>> (773) 669-7717
>>
>
>
>
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From randy7771026 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 23 13:41:45 2014
From: randy7771026 at gmail.com (Randy Baxley)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 06:41:45 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] built app to auto-generate UI for scripts.
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OK then, my thinking is sometimes we are like the Star Trek or maybe
Twilight or Weird episode were beings were moving so fast that the crew
just heard buzzing.  Then again maybe we are trying to heard cats or turn
the tide and momentum of a mighty river.  In the meanwhile a while is
longer for some than for others.  For me though I cut and pasted some
working code into the program, highlighted a variable and got nowhere.  The
little example did work though.  Is that what was supposed to happen?

I tend to think this sandbox idea of quickly getting code into a mockup UI
is a good one.

Also Cobra, Vagrant, Sculpt, CodeSkulptor and a Github IDE I think are good
ideas.

http://opengovhacknight.org/events/2014/06/03/englewood-codes-north-central-college-and-github.html

Having a Python committed team with time and money to build and maintain
all of these good ideas and have them work with each other I also think is
a good idea.  Not sure I have any good idea how to make that happen though.






On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Carl Karsten <carl at personnelware.com>
wrote:

> What makes Python great is that you can do really powerful stuff pretty
> easy.
>
> too bad cuz you don't want that here.
>
> Here is a smart person talking about it.
> http://pyvideo.org/video/2585/building-and-breaking-a-python-sandbox
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Paul Katsen <pkpp1233 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Setting up rate limit today. Right now the container just times-out. And
>> you're right, container being taken down is no problem b/c I'm running one
>> for each script. There has to be a secure way to pull this off.
>>
>> Right now you have to sign up to publish, but you can run code
>> unrestricted. Just testing if quickly publishing scripts is valuable at all.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Japhy Bartlett <japhy at pearachute.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The last I heard this was just a Bad Idea, from python-dev back in the
>>> day:
>>>
>>> http://lwn.net/Articles/321872/
>>>
>>>
>>> I guess since docker is pretty ephemeral you can live with a container
>>> being taken down.  Regularly nuke them and rebuild to keep malware out.
>>>  Rate limit new creations and CPU/memory usage somehow?
>>>
>>> Definitely check your firewalls to keep anyone from launching spam or
>>> DDOS attacks from your servers..
>>>
>>> This just seems like a massive liability, not sure how Coursera or
>>> anyone is getting away with it.  Is it restricted to verified users somehow?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Joe Germuska <joe at germuska.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey, Paul:
>>>>
>>>> I don?t have direct experience, but see
>>>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/SandboxedPython
>>>> and
>>>>
>>>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/Asking%20for%20Help/How%20can%20I%20run%20an%20untrusted%20Python%20script%20safely%20%28i.e.%20Sandbox%29
>>>> <https://wiki.python.org/moin/Asking%20for%20Help/How%20can%20I%20run%20an%20untrusted%20Python%20script%20safely%20(i.e.%20Sandbox)>
>>>>
>>>> Joe
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 15, 2014, at 1:33 PM, Paul Katsen <pkpp1233 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> any advice on how to sandbox even more? i know sites like Udacity and
>>>> Coursera are running arbitrary code too.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Japhy Bartlett <japhy at pearachute.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> you're kind of sandboxed at least because you're running in docker,
>>>>> but this is very vulnerable to malicious code!
>>>>>
>>>>> import subprocess
>>>>> subprocess.call('whoami')
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > root
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Paul Katsen <pkpp1233 at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey ya'll.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I kept needing to teach non-engineers how to use the terminal to run
>>>>>> scripts. Decided to just hack up a site last week where you can copy/paste
>>>>>> your script in, select inputs for your script, and you get a shareable link
>>>>>> to run your code.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Check it out - would love your feedback:
>>>>>> https://python.blockspring.com/.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  -Paul
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Chicago mailing list
>>>>>> Chicago at python.org
>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Chicago mailing list
>>>>> Chicago at python.org
>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Chicago mailing list
>>>> Chicago at python.org
>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Joe Germuska
>>>> Joe at Germuska.com * http://blog.germuska.com *
>>>> http://twitter.com/JoeGermuska
>>>>
>>>> "Learn to fear any church that fears drums." --Regie Gibson
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Chicago mailing list
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From brianherman at gmail.com  Wed Jul 23 19:39:33 2014
From: brianherman at gmail.com (Brian Herman)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 12:39:33 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Inaugural Meeting PuPy (pronounced puppy) Puget Sound
	Python
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This is awesome I love the name too.


On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 8:47 PM, Lakhsmipriya Sukumar <lpsukumar at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello Don Sheu,
> It is interesting to know there is a support for women and minorities in
> tech. Is there any age restriction for women to be considered.
>
> Thanks
> Lakshmi
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Don Sheu <dinaldo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'll ask around. Hopefully some of the speakers will have thoughts. One
>> good resource is National Center for Women and IT. Steph Burg of Microsoft
>> and Krista Davis of Google both organize the NCWIT Aspirations in Computing
>> Washington state award.
>>
>> NCWIT is a partner in Google's announcement to give $50 million for
>> coding education for women and minorities. Here's a link to Illinois'
>> award, http://www.aspirations.org/aspirations-community/illinois
>>
>> I'd imagine Brian Fitzpatrick may be able to track down some resources
>> from Google. I hope Google's *Made with Code *initiative is investing
>> heavily in Chicago.
>>
>> Seattle as a city is aggressively trying to address gender and minority
>> representation in tech. The City appointed Rebecca Lovell a woman as the
>> official city Startup liaison.
>>
>> It'd be great to see Mayor Emanuel take a similar step in encouraging
>> women and minorities in tech.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Brian Ray <brianhray at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Don:
>>>
>>> Wow, thanks for sharing with the list.
>>>
>>> ChiPy organizers met today with some of Chicago's top women leaders to
>>> discuss collaboration and involvement for hosting a special event. If you
>>> know anyone who you know in this area, please have them contact me off the
>>> list.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Don Sheu <dinaldo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi everybody, anybody traveling to Seattle 8/9, or if you know of any
>>>> Python folks in the area, please let them know about PuPy
>>>> <http://pupyug.org>'s 1st meeting.
>>>>
>>>> PuPy?s first meeting will be August 9th at Facebook?s Seattle office.
>>>> Our focus will be women and code. We?re fortunate to have several great
>>>> speakers who have been active through many diverse organizations with
>>>> different tactics to encourage more girls and women to explore STEM
>>>> careers. Special guest traveling from San Francisco to join us is Lynn
>>>> Root, founder of PyLadies SF.
>>>>
>>>> 2:00   Doors Open
>>>>
>>>> 2:30   Kamila Stepnioska on Girl Geek Carrots
>>>>
>>>> 2:40   Steph Burg & Krista Davis speak on Aspirations in Computing
>>>>
>>>> 2:50   Stephanie Kim on PyLadies Seattle
>>>>
>>>> 3:00   Kristin Smith and Cris Ewing on Code Fellows
>>>>
>>>> 3:10   Lynn Root of PyLadies SF
>>>>
>>>> 3:20   Break beverages set out; Entry for people only interested in
>>>> panel
>>>>
>>>> 3:45   Resume with Panel
>>>>
>>>> 4:45   Break for networking
>>>>
>>>> 5:30   To after-party
>>>>
>>>> More details at http://pupyug.org
>>>> RSVP at Eventbrite here,
>>>> https://www.eventbrite.com/e/inaugural-pupy-puget-sound-python-meeting-tickets-12069288567
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Don Sheu
>>>> (312) 880-9389
>>>>
>>>>   *Apply to join us at www.openforcetour.org
>>>> <http://www.openforcetour.org/>*
>>>>
>>>> *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE*: *The information contained in this message
>>>> may be protected trade secrets or protected by applicable intellectual
>>>> property laws of the United States and International agreements. If you
>>>> believe that it has been sent to you in error, do not read it. Please
>>>> immediately reply to the sender that you have received the message in
>>>> error. Then delete it. Thank you.*
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Chicago mailing list
>>>> Chicago at python.org
>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Brian Ray
>>> @brianray
>>> (773) 669-7717
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Don Sheu
>> (312) 880-9389
>>
>>   *Apply to join us at www.openforcetour.org
>> <http://www.openforcetour.org/>*
>>
>> *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE*: *The information contained in this message may
>> be protected trade secrets or protected by applicable intellectual property
>> laws of the United States and International agreements. If you believe that
>> it has been sent to you in error, do not read it. Please immediately reply
>> to the sender that you have received the message in error. Then delete it.
>> Thank you.*
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Chicago at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From brianhray at gmail.com  Wed Jul 23 23:44:17 2014
From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 16:44:17 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Having fun (problems) with Jython. Any experts out there?
Message-ID: <CANKg38srdvLJjqeCjYM0Zec7XFdyJkP=y8AOQ4=OKe6TJpzufQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi ChiPy folks:

I ran into this issue when trying to embed Python in Java using Jython:

*http://stackoverflow.com/questions/24919221
<http://stackoverflow.com/questions/24919221>*

I also added a complete example on github:

https://github.com/brianray/embedded-jython

Anybody know what I might be doing wrong?

Thanks!

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@brianray
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From kumar.mcmillan at gmail.com  Thu Jul 24 19:16:21 2014
From: kumar.mcmillan at gmail.com (Kumar McMillan)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 12:16:21 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Inaugural Meeting PuPy (pronounced puppy) Puget Sound
	Python
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I say you embrace the inevitable interpretation with open arms! Suggested
PuPy mascot:
[image: Gemoji image for :poop]
<http://www.fileformat.info/info/emoji/poop/index.htm>
http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/1F4A9/index.htm


On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Brian Herman <brianherman at gmail.com>
wrote:

> This is awesome I love the name too.
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 8:47 PM, Lakhsmipriya Sukumar <lpsukumar at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Hello Don Sheu,
>> It is interesting to know there is a support for women and minorities in
>> tech. Is there any age restriction for women to be considered.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Lakshmi
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Don Sheu <dinaldo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'll ask around. Hopefully some of the speakers will have thoughts. One
>>> good resource is National Center for Women and IT. Steph Burg of Microsoft
>>> and Krista Davis of Google both organize the NCWIT Aspirations in Computing
>>> Washington state award.
>>>
>>> NCWIT is a partner in Google's announcement to give $50 million for
>>> coding education for women and minorities. Here's a link to Illinois'
>>> award, http://www.aspirations.org/aspirations-community/illinois
>>>
>>> I'd imagine Brian Fitzpatrick may be able to track down some resources
>>> from Google. I hope Google's *Made with Code *initiative is investing
>>> heavily in Chicago.
>>>
>>> Seattle as a city is aggressively trying to address gender and minority
>>> representation in tech. The City appointed Rebecca Lovell a woman as the
>>> official city Startup liaison.
>>>
>>> It'd be great to see Mayor Emanuel take a similar step in encouraging
>>> women and minorities in tech.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Brian Ray <brianhray at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey Don:
>>>>
>>>> Wow, thanks for sharing with the list.
>>>>
>>>> ChiPy organizers met today with some of Chicago's top women leaders to
>>>> discuss collaboration and involvement for hosting a special event. If you
>>>> know anyone who you know in this area, please have them contact me off the
>>>> list.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Don Sheu <dinaldo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi everybody, anybody traveling to Seattle 8/9, or if you know of any
>>>>> Python folks in the area, please let them know about PuPy
>>>>> <http://pupyug.org>'s 1st meeting.
>>>>>
>>>>> PuPy?s first meeting will be August 9th at Facebook?s Seattle office.
>>>>> Our focus will be women and code. We?re fortunate to have several great
>>>>> speakers who have been active through many diverse organizations with
>>>>> different tactics to encourage more girls and women to explore STEM
>>>>> careers. Special guest traveling from San Francisco to join us is Lynn
>>>>> Root, founder of PyLadies SF.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2:00   Doors Open
>>>>>
>>>>> 2:30   Kamila Stepnioska on Girl Geek Carrots
>>>>>
>>>>> 2:40   Steph Burg & Krista Davis speak on Aspirations in Computing
>>>>>
>>>>> 2:50   Stephanie Kim on PyLadies Seattle
>>>>>
>>>>> 3:00   Kristin Smith and Cris Ewing on Code Fellows
>>>>>
>>>>> 3:10   Lynn Root of PyLadies SF
>>>>>
>>>>> 3:20   Break beverages set out; Entry for people only interested in
>>>>> panel
>>>>>
>>>>> 3:45   Resume with Panel
>>>>>
>>>>> 4:45   Break for networking
>>>>>
>>>>> 5:30   To after-party
>>>>>
>>>>> More details at http://pupyug.org
>>>>> RSVP at Eventbrite here,
>>>>> https://www.eventbrite.com/e/inaugural-pupy-puget-sound-python-meeting-tickets-12069288567
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Don Sheu
>>>>> (312) 880-9389
>>>>>
>>>>>   *Apply to join us at www.openforcetour.org
>>>>> <http://www.openforcetour.org/>*
>>>>>
>>>>> *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE*: *The information contained in this message
>>>>> may be protected trade secrets or protected by applicable intellectual
>>>>> property laws of the United States and International agreements. If you
>>>>> believe that it has been sent to you in error, do not read it. Please
>>>>> immediately reply to the sender that you have received the message in
>>>>> error. Then delete it. Thank you.*
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Chicago mailing list
>>>>> Chicago at python.org
>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Brian Ray
>>>> @brianray
>>>> (773) 669-7717
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Don Sheu
>>> (312) 880-9389
>>>
>>>   *Apply to join us at www.openforcetour.org
>>> <http://www.openforcetour.org/>*
>>>
>>> *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE*: *The information contained in this message
>>> may be protected trade secrets or protected by applicable intellectual
>>> property laws of the United States and International agreements. If you
>>> believe that it has been sent to you in error, do not read it. Please
>>> immediately reply to the sender that you have received the message in
>>> error. Then delete it. Thank you.*
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> Chicago at python.org
>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>
>>
>
>
> --
>
>
> Thanks,
> Brian Herman
> kompile.org <http://www.kompile.org>
>
>
>
>
>
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From pkaushik at alum.mit.edu  Thu Jul 24 19:22:17 2014
From: pkaushik at alum.mit.edu (Pallavi Anderson)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 12:22:17 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Inaugural Meeting PuPy (pronounced puppy) Puget Sound
	Python
In-Reply-To: <CAKUCVeqn6J7bjCf9StLuav7fj-2NNjcLuVSh1nkmv9y+gOMczA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAJ+pH7HKvPE2MW6GKynoa7oODWmFq0CgEYOFkJNOD49Voafwgg@mail.gmail.com>

Was this answered off list? I had the same question on behalf of some women
friends. Assuming no restrictions but want to be sure.

On Tuesday, July 22, 2014, Lakhsmipriya Sukumar <lpsukumar at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Don Sheu,
> It is interesting to know there is a support for women and minorities in
> tech. Is there any age restriction for women to be considered.
>
> Thanks
> Lakshmi
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Don Sheu <dinaldo at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dinaldo at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> I'll ask around. Hopefully some of the speakers will have thoughts. One
>> good resource is National Center for Women and IT. Steph Burg of Microsoft
>> and Krista Davis of Google both organize the NCWIT Aspirations in Computing
>> Washington state award.
>>
>> NCWIT is a partner in Google's announcement to give $50 million for
>> coding education for women and minorities. Here's a link to Illinois'
>> award, http://www.aspirations.org/aspirations-community/illinois
>>
>> I'd imagine Brian Fitzpatrick may be able to track down some resources
>> from Google. I hope Google's *Made with Code *initiative is investing
>> heavily in Chicago.
>>
>> Seattle as a city is aggressively trying to address gender and minority
>> representation in tech. The City appointed Rebecca Lovell a woman as the
>> official city Startup liaison.
>>
>> It'd be great to see Mayor Emanuel take a similar step in encouraging
>> women and minorities in tech.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Brian Ray <brianhray at gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','brianhray at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Don:
>>>
>>> Wow, thanks for sharing with the list.
>>>
>>> ChiPy organizers met today with some of Chicago's top women leaders to
>>> discuss collaboration and involvement for hosting a special event. If you
>>> know anyone who you know in this area, please have them contact me off the
>>> list.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Don Sheu <dinaldo at gmail.com
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dinaldo at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi everybody, anybody traveling to Seattle 8/9, or if you know of any
>>>> Python folks in the area, please let them know about PuPy
>>>> <http://pupyug.org>'s 1st meeting.
>>>>
>>>> PuPy?s first meeting will be August 9th at Facebook?s Seattle office.
>>>> Our focus will be women and code. We?re fortunate to have several great
>>>> speakers who have been active through many diverse organizations with
>>>> different tactics to encourage more girls and women to explore STEM
>>>> careers. Special guest traveling from San Francisco to join us is Lynn
>>>> Root, founder of PyLadies SF.
>>>>
>>>> 2:00   Doors Open
>>>>
>>>> 2:30   Kamila Stepnioska on Girl Geek Carrots
>>>>
>>>> 2:40   Steph Burg & Krista Davis speak on Aspirations in Computing
>>>>
>>>> 2:50   Stephanie Kim on PyLadies Seattle
>>>>
>>>> 3:00   Kristin Smith and Cris Ewing on Code Fellows
>>>>
>>>> 3:10   Lynn Root of PyLadies SF
>>>>
>>>> 3:20   Break beverages set out; Entry for people only interested in
>>>> panel
>>>>
>>>> 3:45   Resume with Panel
>>>>
>>>> 4:45   Break for networking
>>>>
>>>> 5:30   To after-party
>>>>
>>>> More details at http://pupyug.org
>>>> RSVP at Eventbrite here,
>>>> https://www.eventbrite.com/e/inaugural-pupy-puget-sound-python-meeting-tickets-12069288567
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Don Sheu
>>>> (312) 880-9389
>>>>
>>>>   *Apply to join us at www.openforcetour.org
>>>> <http://www.openforcetour.org/>*
>>>>
>>>> *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE*: *The information contained in this message
>>>> may be protected trade secrets or protected by applicable intellectual
>>>> property laws of the United States and International agreements. If you
>>>> believe that it has been sent to you in error, do not read it. Please
>>>> immediately reply to the sender that you have received the message in
>>>> error. Then delete it. Thank you.*
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Chicago mailing list
>>>> Chicago at python.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Chicago at python.org');>
>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Brian Ray
>>> @brianray
>>> (773) 669-7717
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Don Sheu
>> (312) 880-9389
>>
>>   *Apply to join us at www.openforcetour.org
>> <http://www.openforcetour.org/>*
>>
>> *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE*: *The information contained in this message may
>> be protected trade secrets or protected by applicable intellectual property
>> laws of the United States and International agreements. If you believe that
>> it has been sent to you in error, do not read it. Please immediately reply
>> to the sender that you have received the message in error. Then delete it.
>> Thank you.*
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Chicago at python.org');>
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>
>>
>

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From tathagatadg at gmail.com  Fri Jul 25 14:01:00 2014
From: tathagatadg at gmail.com (Tathagata Dasgupta)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 07:01:00 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] See you at PyOhio tomorrow?
Message-ID: <CAB32_MNa+2i90a++S3C=wDv5TqZ=RVpC8EccHGyJT+GyMTkrRg@mail.gmail.com>

So many great talks, that I had to spreadsheet it

http://t.co/kNaGZmFPsU

Hoping to see a few familiar Chipy faces tomorrow...

I really loved their http://us.pyohio.org/ idea

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From brianhray at gmail.com  Fri Jul 25 15:27:47 2014
From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 08:27:47 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Who wants to host ChiPy?
Message-ID: <CANKg38v7Y6sg2uHaGXQekBiyMYeYtfvc1EQ8omf6kNXkACrgAA@mail.gmail.com>

We are looking for a great Venue for August.  September is covered.

Might be a good time to go back to one of our trusted favorites. Open to
suggestions. Good Karma for hosting ChiPy.

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@brianray
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From foresmac at gmail.com  Fri Jul 25 17:01:51 2014
From: foresmac at gmail.com (Chris Foresman)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 10:01:51 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Who wants to host ChiPy?
In-Reply-To: <CANKg38v7Y6sg2uHaGXQekBiyMYeYtfvc1EQ8omf6kNXkACrgAA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANKg38v7Y6sg2uHaGXQekBiyMYeYtfvc1EQ8omf6kNXkACrgAA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F06C5BB3-7A1C-4907-8F9B-627D3162E6FB@gmail.com>

Vokal / MobileMakers isn't hosting? Does it rotate every month?


Thanks,
Chris Foresman
chris at chrisforesman.com



On Jul 25, 2014, at 8:27 AM, Brian Ray <brianhray at gmail.com> wrote:

> We are looking for a great Venue for August.  September is covered. 
> 
> Might be a good time to go back to one of our trusted favorites. Open to suggestions. Good Karma for hosting ChiPy.
> 
> -- 
> Brian Ray 
> @brianray
> (773) 669-7717
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago


From brianhray at gmail.com  Fri Jul 25 17:41:59 2014
From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 10:41:59 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Who wants to host ChiPy?
In-Reply-To: <F06C5BB3-7A1C-4907-8F9B-627D3162E6FB@gmail.com>
References: <CANKg38v7Y6sg2uHaGXQekBiyMYeYtfvc1EQ8omf6kNXkACrgAA@mail.gmail.com>
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Generally, we do not repeat venues month to month. The idea is it makes it
more accessible for those who prefer one type of location over another.
Likewise, most venues do not really want to host us every single month.
There are advantages to hitting up a school one month and a bar venue
another.


On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Chris Foresman <foresmac at gmail.com> wrote:

> Vokal / MobileMakers isn't hosting? Does it rotate every month?
>
>
> Thanks,
> Chris Foresman
> chris at chrisforesman.com
>
>
>
> On Jul 25, 2014, at 8:27 AM, Brian Ray <brianhray at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > We are looking for a great Venue for August.  September is covered.
> >
> > Might be a good time to go back to one of our trusted favorites. Open to
> suggestions. Good Karma for hosting ChiPy.
> >
> > --
> > Brian Ray
> > @brianray
> > (773) 669-7717
> > _______________________________________________
> > Chicago mailing list
> > Chicago at python.org
> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>



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@brianray
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From foresmac at gmail.com  Fri Jul 25 18:39:37 2014
From: foresmac at gmail.com (Chris Foresman)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 11:39:37 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Who wants to host ChiPy?
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Fair enough. If there isn't another place, though, I'm sure we can serve as a backup.


Chris Foresman
chris at chrisforesman.com



On Jul 25, 2014, at 10:41 AM, Brian Ray <brianhray at gmail.com> wrote:

> Generally, we do not repeat venues month to month. The idea is it makes it more accessible for those who prefer one type of location over another. Likewise, most venues do not really want to host us every single month. There are advantages to hitting up a school one month and a bar venue another. 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Chris Foresman <foresmac at gmail.com> wrote:
> Vokal / MobileMakers isn't hosting? Does it rotate every month?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Chris Foresman
> chris at chrisforesman.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 25, 2014, at 8:27 AM, Brian Ray <brianhray at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > We are looking for a great Venue for August.  September is covered.
> >
> > Might be a good time to go back to one of our trusted favorites. Open to suggestions. Good Karma for hosting ChiPy.
> >
> > --
> > Brian Ray
> > @brianray
> > (773) 669-7717
> > _______________________________________________
> > Chicago mailing list
> > Chicago at python.org
> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
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> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
> 
> 
> 
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> @brianray
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From shekay at pobox.com  Fri Jul 25 19:02:01 2014
From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 12:02:01 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] See you at PyOhio tomorrow?
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You can also json it.
http://www.pyohio.org/schedule/json/
On Jul 25, 2014 8:24 AM, "Tathagata Dasgupta" <tathagatadg at gmail.com> wrote:

> So many great talks, that I had to spreadsheet it
>
> http://t.co/kNaGZmFPsU
>
> Hoping to see a few familiar Chipy faces tomorrow...
>
> I really loved their http://us.pyohio.org/ idea
>
> --
> Cheers,
> T
>
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From brianhray at gmail.com  Sat Jul 26 01:05:58 2014
From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 18:05:58 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] August ChiPy Venue found: DSSG
Message-ID: <CANKg38uRTowhW-427K-F=bWnxivQM-PtNcRPW5KzO6SMDJ=WMA@mail.gmail.com>

Good news, we have venue next month provided by DSSG http://dssg.io/ and
The University of Chicago. RSVP is now open: http://chipy.org

This will be our best meeting ever!

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From brianherman at gmail.com  Sat Jul 26 13:41:48 2014
From: brianherman at gmail.com (Brian Herman)
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 06:41:48 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] August ChiPy Venue found: DSSG
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U of C has a beautiful campus great job!


On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Brian Ray <brianhray at gmail.com> wrote:

> Good news, we have venue next month provided by DSSG http://dssg.io/ and
> The University of Chicago. RSVP is now open: http://chipy.org
>
> This will be our best meeting ever!
>
> --
> Brian Ray
> @brianray
> (773) 669-7717
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
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>
>


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From brianhray at gmail.com  Sat Jul 26 14:29:24 2014
From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray)
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 07:29:24 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] August ChiPy Venue found: DSSG
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Just to clarify, it's not being held on campus. Meeting will be held in the
Loop at the location listed: 247 S State suite 300



On Saturday, July 26, 2014, Brian Herman <brianherman at gmail.com> wrote:

> U of C has a beautiful campus great job!
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Brian Ray <brianhray at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','brianhray at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> Good news, we have venue next month provided by DSSG http://dssg.io/ and
>> The University of Chicago. RSVP is now open: http://chipy.org
>>
>> This will be our best meeting ever!
>>
>> --
>> Brian Ray
>> @brianray
>> (773) 669-7717
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Chicago at python.org');>
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>
>>
>
>
> --
>
>
> Thanks,
> Brian Herman
> kompile.org <http://www.kompile.org>
>
>
>
>
>

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From pkpp1233 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 30 02:02:49 2014
From: pkpp1233 at gmail.com (Paul Katsen)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 19:02:49 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] built app to auto-generate UI for scripts.
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Hey Randy - did you switch the language to python? It might have been set
to R or Ruby.

Heres a blogpost (also on front page of HN today) that I just wrote to show
how it works:

https://api.blockspring.com/blog/api-in-60-seconds

Let me know if things are still off! Working super hard to make sure this
thing just works for people.
On Jul 23, 2014 4:41 AM, "Randy Baxley" <randy7771026 at gmail.com> wrote:

> OK then, my thinking is sometimes we are like the Star Trek or maybe
> Twilight or Weird episode were beings were moving so fast that the crew
> just heard buzzing.  Then again maybe we are trying to heard cats or turn
> the tide and momentum of a mighty river.  In the meanwhile a while is
> longer for some than for others.  For me though I cut and pasted some
> working code into the program, highlighted a variable and got nowhere.  The
> little example did work though.  Is that what was supposed to happen?
>
> I tend to think this sandbox idea of quickly getting code into a mockup UI
> is a good one.
>
> Also Cobra, Vagrant, Sculpt, CodeSkulptor and a Github IDE I think are
> good ideas.
>
>
> http://opengovhacknight.org/events/2014/06/03/englewood-codes-north-central-college-and-github.html
>
> Having a Python committed team with time and money to build and maintain
> all of these good ideas and have them work with each other I also think is
> a good idea.  Not sure I have any good idea how to make that happen though.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Carl Karsten <carl at personnelware.com>
> wrote:
>
>> What makes Python great is that you can do really powerful stuff pretty
>> easy.
>>
>> too bad cuz you don't want that here.
>>
>> Here is a smart person talking about it.
>> http://pyvideo.org/video/2585/building-and-breaking-a-python-sandbox
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Paul Katsen <pkpp1233 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Setting up rate limit today. Right now the container just times-out. And
>>> you're right, container being taken down is no problem b/c I'm running one
>>> for each script. There has to be a secure way to pull this off.
>>>
>>> Right now you have to sign up to publish, but you can run code
>>> unrestricted. Just testing if quickly publishing scripts is valuable at all.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Japhy Bartlett <japhy at pearachute.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The last I heard this was just a Bad Idea, from python-dev back in the
>>>> day:
>>>>
>>>> http://lwn.net/Articles/321872/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I guess since docker is pretty ephemeral you can live with a container
>>>> being taken down.  Regularly nuke them and rebuild to keep malware out.
>>>>  Rate limit new creations and CPU/memory usage somehow?
>>>>
>>>> Definitely check your firewalls to keep anyone from launching spam or
>>>> DDOS attacks from your servers..
>>>>
>>>> This just seems like a massive liability, not sure how Coursera or
>>>> anyone is getting away with it.  Is it restricted to verified users somehow?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Joe Germuska <joe at germuska.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey, Paul:
>>>>>
>>>>> I don?t have direct experience, but see
>>>>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/SandboxedPython
>>>>> and
>>>>>
>>>>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/Asking%20for%20Help/How%20can%20I%20run%20an%20untrusted%20Python%20script%20safely%20%28i.e.%20Sandbox%29
>>>>> <https://wiki.python.org/moin/Asking%20for%20Help/How%20can%20I%20run%20an%20untrusted%20Python%20script%20safely%20(i.e.%20Sandbox)>
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 15, 2014, at 1:33 PM, Paul Katsen <pkpp1233 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> any advice on how to sandbox even more? i know sites like Udacity and
>>>>> Coursera are running arbitrary code too.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Japhy Bartlett <japhy at pearachute.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> you're kind of sandboxed at least because you're running in docker,
>>>>>> but this is very vulnerable to malicious code!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> import subprocess
>>>>>> subprocess.call('whoami')
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > root
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Paul Katsen <pkpp1233 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey ya'll.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I kept needing to teach non-engineers how to use the terminal to run
>>>>>>> scripts. Decided to just hack up a site last week where you can copy/paste
>>>>>>> your script in, select inputs for your script, and you get a shareable link
>>>>>>> to run your code.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Check it out - would love your feedback:
>>>>>>> https://python.blockspring.com/.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  -Paul
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Chicago mailing list
>>>>>>> Chicago at python.org
>>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Chicago mailing list
>>>>>> Chicago at python.org
>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Chicago mailing list
>>>>> Chicago at python.org
>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Joe Germuska
>>>>> Joe at Germuska.com * http://blog.germuska.com *
>>>>> http://twitter.com/JoeGermuska
>>>>>
>>>>> "Learn to fear any church that fears drums." --Regie Gibson
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Chicago mailing list
>>>>> Chicago at python.org
>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Chicago mailing list
>>>> Chicago at python.org
>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Chicago mailing list
>>> Chicago at python.org
>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Carl K
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Chicago at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
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From randy7771026 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 31 02:21:28 2014
From: randy7771026 at gmail.com (Randy Baxley)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 19:21:28 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] built app to auto-generate UI for scripts.
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I did change to python.  Do I have to sign in?  The example works without
signing in.


On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Paul Katsen <pkpp1233 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Randy - did you switch the language to python? It might have been set
> to R or Ruby.
>
> Heres a blogpost (also on front page of HN today) that I just wrote to
> show how it works:
>
> https://api.blockspring.com/blog/api-in-60-seconds
>
> Let me know if things are still off! Working super hard to make sure this
> thing just works for people.
> On Jul 23, 2014 4:41 AM, "Randy Baxley" <randy7771026 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> OK then, my thinking is sometimes we are like the Star Trek or maybe
>> Twilight or Weird episode were beings were moving so fast that the crew
>> just heard buzzing.  Then again maybe we are trying to heard cats or turn
>> the tide and momentum of a mighty river.  In the meanwhile a while is
>> longer for some than for others.  For me though I cut and pasted some
>> working code into the program, highlighted a variable and got nowhere.  The
>> little example did work though.  Is that what was supposed to happen?
>>
>> I tend to think this sandbox idea of quickly getting code into a mockup
>> UI is a good one.
>>
>> Also Cobra, Vagrant, Sculpt, CodeSkulptor and a Github IDE I think are
>> good ideas.
>>
>>
>> http://opengovhacknight.org/events/2014/06/03/englewood-codes-north-central-college-and-github.html
>>
>> Having a Python committed team with time and money to build and maintain
>> all of these good ideas and have them work with each other I also think is
>> a good idea.  Not sure I have any good idea how to make that happen though.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Carl Karsten <carl at personnelware.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> What makes Python great is that you can do really powerful stuff pretty
>>> easy.
>>>
>>> too bad cuz you don't want that here.
>>>
>>> Here is a smart person talking about it.
>>> http://pyvideo.org/video/2585/building-and-breaking-a-python-sandbox
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Paul Katsen <pkpp1233 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Setting up rate limit today. Right now the container just times-out.
>>>> And you're right, container being taken down is no problem b/c I'm running
>>>> one for each script. There has to be a secure way to pull this off.
>>>>
>>>> Right now you have to sign up to publish, but you can run code
>>>> unrestricted. Just testing if quickly publishing scripts is valuable at all.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Japhy Bartlett <japhy at pearachute.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The last I heard this was just a Bad Idea, from python-dev back in the
>>>>> day:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://lwn.net/Articles/321872/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess since docker is pretty ephemeral you can live with a container
>>>>> being taken down.  Regularly nuke them and rebuild to keep malware out.
>>>>>  Rate limit new creations and CPU/memory usage somehow?
>>>>>
>>>>> Definitely check your firewalls to keep anyone from launching spam or
>>>>> DDOS attacks from your servers..
>>>>>
>>>>> This just seems like a massive liability, not sure how Coursera or
>>>>> anyone is getting away with it.  Is it restricted to verified users somehow?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Joe Germuska <joe at germuska.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey, Paul:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don?t have direct experience, but see
>>>>>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/SandboxedPython
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/Asking%20for%20Help/How%20can%20I%20run%20an%20untrusted%20Python%20script%20safely%20%28i.e.%20Sandbox%29
>>>>>> <https://wiki.python.org/moin/Asking%20for%20Help/How%20can%20I%20run%20an%20untrusted%20Python%20script%20safely%20(i.e.%20Sandbox)>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 15, 2014, at 1:33 PM, Paul Katsen <pkpp1233 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> any advice on how to sandbox even more? i know sites like Udacity and
>>>>>> Coursera are running arbitrary code too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Japhy Bartlett <japhy at pearachute.com
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> you're kind of sandboxed at least because you're running in docker,
>>>>>>> but this is very vulnerable to malicious code!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> import subprocess
>>>>>>> subprocess.call('whoami')
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > root
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Paul Katsen <pkpp1233 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hey ya'll.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I kept needing to teach non-engineers how to use the terminal to
>>>>>>>> run scripts. Decided to just hack up a site last week where you can
>>>>>>>> copy/paste your script in, select inputs for your script, and you get a
>>>>>>>> shareable link to run your code.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Check it out - would love your feedback:
>>>>>>>> https://python.blockspring.com/.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  -Paul
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> Chicago mailing list
>>>>>>>> Chicago at python.org
>>>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Chicago mailing list
>>>>>>> Chicago at python.org
>>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Chicago mailing list
>>>>>> Chicago at python.org
>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Joe Germuska
>>>>>> Joe at Germuska.com * http://blog.germuska.com *
>>>>>> http://twitter.com/JoeGermuska
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Learn to fear any church that fears drums." --Regie Gibson
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Chicago mailing list
>>>>>> Chicago at python.org
>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Chicago mailing list
>>>>> Chicago at python.org
>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Chicago mailing list
>>>> Chicago at python.org
>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Carl K
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Chicago mailing list
>>> Chicago at python.org
>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
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>>
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From szybalski at gmail.com  Tue Jul 29 23:20:13 2014
From: szybalski at gmail.com (Lukasz Szybalski)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 16:20:13 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Job: Programmer/Technical Support
Message-ID: <CAKkTUv1OYwo838ch3_ikPEBMT5P9SF3m6-2YS8vwgb+=BXqZ=A@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,
We have another position opening up in our Information and Technology
Department.

If you are interested or know any recent graduates that might be interested
please let me know.

Thanks
Lucas
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