From tathagatadg at gmail.com Sat Mar 1 16:14:46 2014 From: tathagatadg at gmail.com (Tathagata Dasgupta) Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2014 09:14:46 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Common mistakes that can slow down Python Message-ID: Hello beautiful Pythonistas of Chitown, I keep going back to Raymond Hettinger's "Transforming Code into Beautiful, Idiomatic Python" (1,2) talk from last PyCon, and wonder if is there more to it. Its fun exercise doing cProfile/timeit -ing them ... I added a question on quora [ https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-common-mistakes-that-could-slow-down-your-Python-scripts]. Stackoverflow probably wouldn't have entertained such an open ended question. Got some interesting answers ... What do you guys think? Do you recall refactoring cruft that added jetpacks to your code ;)? [1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSGv2VnC0go [2] https://speakerdeck.com/pyconslides/transforming-code-into-beautiful-idiomatic-python-by-raymond-hettinger-1 -- Cheers, T Sent from my iPhone -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wirth.jason at gmail.com Sat Mar 1 16:36:45 2014 From: wirth.jason at gmail.com (Jason Wirth) Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2014 00:36:45 +0900 Subject: [Chicago] Common mistakes that can slow down Python In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Using pure python instead of Numpy. For more examples of performance gains take a look at Yves talk: http://vimeo.com/79581807 Numpy also has the benefit of being more expressive when dealing with numerical calculations. x = np.linspace(0, 10) y = a * x + b On a side note, you asked a great question, but I'm not a huge fan of Quora blurring the answers until you give them your personal information. Programmers.stackexchange is a great place to ask open ended questions that might not be suitable for StackOverflow. -- Jason Wirth 213.675.5294 wirth.jason at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tathagatadg at gmail.com Sat Mar 1 16:52:40 2014 From: tathagatadg at gmail.com (Tathagata Dasgupta) Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2014 09:52:40 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Common mistakes that can slow down Python In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That is what I absolutely hate about quora! But once you have surrendered your personal info, i feel there is lot less policing about asking questions. And thanks for link to the talk ... :) On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 9:36 AM, Jason Wirth wrote: > Using pure python instead of Numpy. > For more examples of performance gains take a look at Yves talk: > http://vimeo.com/79581807 > > Numpy also has the benefit of being more expressive when dealing with > numerical calculations. > > x = np.linspace(0, 10) > y = a * x + b > > > On a side note, you asked a great question, but I'm not a huge fan of > Quora blurring the answers until you give them your personal information. > Programmers.stackexchange is a great place to ask open ended questions that > might not be suitable for StackOverflow. > > > > -- > Jason Wirth > 213.675.5294 > wirth.jason at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -- Cheers, T Sent from my iPhone -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From maney at two14.net Sat Mar 1 17:50:53 2014 From: maney at two14.net (Martin Maney) Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2014 10:50:53 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Common mistakes that can slow down Python In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20140301165053.GA29823@furrr.two14.net> On Sat, Mar 01, 2014 at 09:14:46AM -0600, Tathagata Dasgupta wrote: > I keep going back to Raymond Hettinger's "Transforming Code into Beautiful, > Idiomatic Python" (1,2) talk from last PyCon, and wonder if is there more > to it. Its fun exercise doing cProfile/timeit -ing them ... Premature optimization... ;-) I'm just skipping through the card deck because I'm sure I've seen this talk before, and a few of the examples present beautiful, idiomatic code that doesn't perform the same computation. Slide 13, for example, and it may not be a common case, but... >>> data {'a': 1, 'r': 4, 'b': 3, 'ra': 2} >>> d = dict(data) >>> e = d >>> d = {k:d[k] for k in d if not k.startswith('r')} >>> d {'a': 1, 'b': 3} >>> e {'a': 1, 'r': 4, 'b': 3, 'ra': 2} The dict comprehension rebinds d rather than modifying the dict it was bound to at the start. Sure, in a lot of uses this won't matter, but the binding to e that I added shows how it may. This is like the difference between l.sort() and sorted(l), and there are times and places when either of them will be the right thing and the other not. Maybe he covered that in the talk? Another one, with another dict issue. Slide 16, on the glories of defaultdict. And that's truly great, but once that dict has been filled with counts it still has that default behaviour, which may surprise code that uses it later. Granted, it seems more likely to surprise it by NOT throwing an exception when a bug leads to an access with a key that isn't supposed to be there... and perhaps blowing up at some remove when the automagically defaulted 0 gets used where a positive non-zero is expected? Like SLide 13's, it's a subtle, tricky difference that often will not be noticed. Repeat above general issue for every use of defaultdict. To be fair, in the Grouping With Dictionaries example I could see where getting an empty list for uninitialized lengths/key values could be a good thing, and since the natural thing to do with an empty list is to bail out of the ?for x in list_of_x? without doing anything it's less likely to go awry. Probably. Hmmm, do I still need to worry about running code in a 2.5 environment? NamedTuples are nice but as with so much else of the constant churn they've been irrelevant for me because I don't have time to update every piece of code (and environemtn) to every latest new release. To be honest, as much as I like the new features, few if any of them are more compelling than not "fixing" what isn't broken. Sometimes I wonder if this means I'm not a True Pythonista. ;-/ &tc... -- To be alive, is that not to be again and again surprised? -- Nicholas van Rijn From amberdoctor at gmail.com Sun Mar 2 06:57:37 2014 From: amberdoctor at gmail.com (Amber Doctor) Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2014 23:57:37 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Survey Results from Q1 Message-ID: Hi everyone, I want to make ChiPy a better place and I thought that I could help do that by volunteering to be a point person for community outreach (something I've heard a few requests for). As a starter point, I had assembled the survey Brian Ray sent out and I'd like to share the results with you. The organizers of ChiPy can't take action on everything in the survey but I encourage the community to see if there are things here that you can do to help make ChiPy better. Thanks you to everyone who participated in the summary. The results are in and I've summarized the information we received below. I've tried my best to represent the good as well as the areas that we can strive to be better at without including anything that might be personally identifiable. Here goes! *What best describes your interest in Python?* (% totals are greater than 100% as multiple answers were possible per person) Web Programming 70.89% Database Operations / Information Retrieval 53.16% System Admin 43.04% Scientific Computing 39.24% Hobby 32.91% Computer Science 31.65% Desktop applications 20.25% Mobile applications 20.25% Academic 20.25% Robotics 11.39% QA 11.39% Games 8.86% *How many times have you attended ChiPy?* 0 8.64% 1-10 53.09% 10-24 24.69% more than 24 13.58% *Rate the Venues* Overall each of the venues got a few votes for being people's favorite although a handful of the venues got a few extra beyond that. Out of respect to the companies that were gracious enough to host, I'm omitting more details than this of people's favorite and least favorite venues. *Rate the Following* *(out of 5)* Presentations 3.72 Locations 3.91 Organization 3.68 Food 3.67 Community 4.18 Discussion 3.92 *What changes do you think would improve ChiPy?* Keeping Free 55.71% More Diversity 34.29% More Networking 31.43% More Talks 30% Better Planing 20% More small group discussion 20% More informal 17.14% More Sponsors 15.71% Different Meeting Time 14.29% More use of social media 14.29% Better Food 12.86% Fewer Head Hunters 11.43% New Venues 11.43% Better Website 10% No RSVP required 7.14% Shorter Meetings 7.14% Fewer Job Seekers 4.29% Less Talks 4.29% Smaller groups 2.86% More Formal 1.43% Adding Dues 1.43% Fewer Sponsors 1.43% Less Introductions from Organizers 0% *Comments Provided with Other Check-box:* Alternate Community Engagement (beyond a meeting with talks and a mailing list) 8.58% Some presentations could use more polish 7.14% More Shorter Talks (or enforce time limits?) 2.86% Increase the number of times we meet 2.86% Need a code of conduct 1.43% More meetings with a theme 1.43% Better Beer 1.43% *Please describe what would cause you to attend more ChiPy meetings? & Other comments* A lot of comments saying nothing to improve and/or great job. A bunch more comments thanking those people who volunteer their time to ChiPy to do organization, record talks, support the website, etc. While this might be a small portion of the summary, *at least half of the "other comments" were a resounding thumbs up to ChiPy. * For improvements we have suggestions grouped by category. Popular replies are marked. *Talks:* Avenue for suggesting talk topics (popular) Some specifics: Science (really popular) More relevant to my work* Things I need to learn* Python for Sys Admin * *Not everyone one specified what was relevant to them when saying more relevant, please help in the future by being more specific and tell us exactly what areas are relevant :) * Better preparation on the talks (super popular) A few more beginner level talks -- at least 1 per meeting? Bring in High Profile Speakers *Timing/Location:* The timing and location suggestions were incredibly varied more often than not we got an "it's me, not you" kind of answer. (popular) Most of the rest of the comments directly conflicted with each other and were relatively equally represented. For example a tie in start earlier vs start later suggestions. Another example: Meetings outside the loop are an issue VS Please have more meetings outside in the loop in the X (pick north/south/west) direction. In the non-conflicting categories people agree that the weather should be friendlier to us and that parking could be more readily available (or cheaper). We had a mention that people felt like they would be more interested in coming if they could step out early. *****I just wanted to address this one right now: You Can Step Out Early. Come late, leave early, or whatever works for your schedule. We just love having you out for whatever portion of the night that you can make it.* Some of the venues feel too crowded *Format:* Alternate Kinds of Events (popular) More chatting with peers between talks (both time and promotion of mingling) *Diversity:* Diversity can be tricky to accomplish but it's worth looking into (popular) One of the venues locked the women's restroom - we need to be more careful about that It can feel hard at meetings when you are new to engage talking to other people *****I'd also like to address this one right now. My name is Amber. I'm fairly friendly, often at the meetings, and would love to meet you. I'll often get caught up in conversations at meetings so I don't make the rounds as much as I'd like; so just walk up and wave at me even if I'm talking to other people. I've typically got hair sticks (also sometimes called chop sticks) in my hair so I'm pretty easy to spot. This might not be sufficient to address all of the concerns people have expressed with Diversity and engaging new members but it's something I can offer personally. I'd love to see others on the list who have similar concerns volunteer similarly. * Corrections on pronouncing ChiPy is off putting. It's uncomfortable when people treat ChiPy as a place to pick up a date. *News & Announcements:* Event announcements get lost in the list: A specific subscription list dedicated to meeting and event announcements Google Calendar of Events to subscribe to could be good The recent activity on the ChiPy mailing list detracts from the generally positive community vibe Less politics on the mailing list *Food & Drink:* Better Beer Foods to accommodate various dietary restrictions Have Hard Liquor Sparkling Water Sometimes venues run out *Organization:* Put a code of conduct in place Have an easier way to find other members (LinkedIn profiles, Git repos, etc) Have a treasurer Have a group to hare overseeing organization *Is there anything else we could be doing to promote ChiPy and/or Python in Chicago?* Reach out to Universities and Schools (really popular) Coordinate with other groups (popular) Greater variety of activities (popular) Python Flash Mob!!! 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Since I'm not looking and I know others are, I figured I'd pass it on. When their posting was held for moderation, the response they got was less than a happy one. As you can see, it's still not posted. Allowing local recruiters to post local jobs to our local community is good for everyone involved, and it's fairly standard practice around the other user groups in the Python world. I think we'd all rather see a local person get a local job than see companies have to relocate people to fill their spots. So, what is the deal here? From brianhray at gmail.com Mon Mar 3 18:36:45 2014 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 11:36:45 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Status of recruiters on this list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: There is a current action item to review this process (moderation of mailing list) by the ChiPy board. As it stands until then: - Cezar moderates the mailing list and I help if it is a solicitation - We ask for a referral if they find someone to fund our meetings - If it sounds like a solicitation, I investigate. I make sure the following: A) the job is in Chicago or telecommute B) it is actually a Python job C) they will not add the job to a general bucket. It is a very time consuming process to filter these but we have really reduced the noise. I did toss one recruitment email out last week because it was very misleading and they were cross hiring for possitions. I already forwarded that to the board last week so we can see what others thing. Thanks, Brian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brian at python.org Mon Mar 3 20:26:35 2014 From: brian at python.org (Brian Curtin) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 13:26:35 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Status of recruiters on this list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > There is a current action item to review this process (moderation of mailing > list) by the ChiPy board. As it stands until then: > > Cezar moderates the mailing list and I help if it is a solicitation > We ask for a referral if they find someone to fund our meetings > If it sounds like a solicitation, I investigate. I make sure the following: > A) the job is in Chicago or telecommute B) it is actually a Python job C) > they will not add the job to a general bucket. > > It is a very time consuming process to filter these but we have really > reduced the noise. I did toss one recruitment email out last week because it > was very misleading and they were cross hiring for possitions. I already > forwarded that to the board last week so we can see what others thing. The way the process played out the other day was that the moderator started out by not being happy about the email, and then a moderator dug in to ask who was it that sent them to the list. Neither of those seem to be in the prescribed process, nor are they reasonable processes. I'm not really sure why this would be a board thing, or who the board represents, what they preside over, or really any other information. From randy7771026 at gmail.com Mon Mar 3 20:41:32 2014 From: randy7771026 at gmail.com (Randy Baxley) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 13:41:32 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Status of recruiters on this list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Brian Curtain, Not sure any of us know the answer to that question either except that we are in communication with PSF and each other to figure that out. Then too there is the obvious answer that we are trying to figure out what the best ever Python users and the best ever language can make even better. Randy On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Brian Curtin wrote: > On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > > There is a current action item to review this process (moderation of > mailing > > list) by the ChiPy board. As it stands until then: > > > > Cezar moderates the mailing list and I help if it is a solicitation > > We ask for a referral if they find someone to fund our meetings > > If it sounds like a solicitation, I investigate. I make sure the > following: > > A) the job is in Chicago or telecommute B) it is actually a Python job > C) > > they will not add the job to a general bucket. > > > > It is a very time consuming process to filter these but we have really > > reduced the noise. I did toss one recruitment email out last week > because it > > was very misleading and they were cross hiring for possitions. I already > > forwarded that to the board last week so we can see what others thing. > > The way the process played out the other day was that the moderator > started out by not being happy about the email, and then a moderator > dug in to ask who was it that sent them to the list. Neither of those > seem to be in the prescribed process, nor are they reasonable > processes. > > I'm not really sure why this would be a board thing, or who the board > represents, what they preside over, or really any other information. > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I asked "who", and they did not respond. Had they said it was "Brian Curtain" I would have privately told you as well why they were denied. Lastly, we are a little overwhelmed right now, but if you want to offer suggestions or help on managing the mailing list, feel free. We will consider those when we review that action item in the coming months. Yours, Brian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skip at pobox.com Mon Mar 3 21:47:28 2014 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 14:47:28 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Status of recruiters on this list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm going to make a quick suggestion here. I think it's unfortunate that someone got stiffed, but let's table this discussion. If the new Python Job Board on www.python.org plays out as I think it will, I think we should start rejecting job postings of any kind, as people will be able to easily search the job database by location. There will be no real advantage for hiring companies or agencies to place their postings on this list. That said, I can't offer you a f'rinstance at the moment, as the new jobs board isn't yet functional. Still, I don't think it will be more than a week or two before it's whipped into decent enough shape. People interested in helping out (especially if you are Djangonauts) can send a note to jobs at python.org expressing your desire to help. You can also fork the project on Github (https://github.com/python/pythondotorg) and submit pull requests. Skip From yarkot1 at gmail.com Mon Mar 3 22:58:48 2014 From: yarkot1 at gmail.com (Yarko Tymciurak) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 15:58:48 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Status of recruiters on this list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It feels like I'm either really missing something, or there's something basic wrong here. On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > > > If this is the posting from the other day. This is why it was denied. > > The resumes gathered would be in their global database, which violates our rule about jobs only from Chicago I can get behind this, sort of... and by sort of, I mean it should be up to the person who is looking for work to be aware, notified and in control, and I think it's ok for Chipy to stipulate that only-Chicago jobs are what we publicize. After that, if someone who submits is asked "do you want me to look broader for you?" frankly, that's none of Chipy's business (inappropriate coupling). Enlighten me if I'm missing somthing. > > The resumes gathered would also go to non-Python positions along with the Python position While I think a position which uses python is fine, anyone worth their salt/ with a CS or Engineering degree has broader skills than python (often _much_ broader). While it may seem like a good idea in the interests of ChiPy that "only python positions" - I think in general this is a disservice to people who do / would attend ChiPy. As a darn simple example, consider a web app position: it will almost automatically include a team of non-python work: JS & some db, minimally, along with some devops probably. A more significant example is anything utilizing Open edX: that system has node, ruby, django, python, .... all interacting... *sigh* This 2nd bullet point I think is myopic and ill-advised. Sort of like saying "you need good unix/linux command line knowledge, and bash programming skills" for "our position", and having someone say "NO! We'll only take job posts for _only_ BASH programmers! Bwahahaha ensues... Shell scripting, like python scripting, is a general purpose skill - and professionals I would hope have much broader skills than just specializing in Python, even if their current or desired position might emphasize that. > > The poster stated they are involved with the "Open Source Community," and they were not. Why does this matter? > > They would not give us a referral fee or help sponsor an event at any time in the future Ok - so no fee, then show up at a meeting (don't use our mail list)... I suppose I can get this. > > I corresponded with a corporate contact, and they apologized and agreed we should deny the request > Only was it after they were denied did they state they were referred to someone on the list. I asked "who", and they did not respond. Had they said it was "Brian Curtain" I would have privately told you as well why they were denied. > > Lastly, we are a little overwhelmed right now, but if you want to offer suggestions or help on managing the mailing list, feel free. We will consider those when we review that action item in the coming months. > > Yours, Brian As for Skip's note - I don't follow. Why wouldn't I want to meet a recruiter or someone hiring at a Chipy? Casually? Focusing on "Job Board" is sort of like saying "Oh - we already have one shop in Chicago doing Python coding - we don't want any others!" - that makes as much sense as Skip's suggestion. The more avenues, the better - eliminate ineffective channels ok. The only reason I could see is "it's a pain, and we don't want headhunter-trolls here..." --- but maybe that just suggests addendum to code-of-conduct. If we help chipy people that's good, that's community behavior. That's my take. - Yarko > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > If this is the posting from the other day. This is why it was denied. - The resumes gathered would be in their global database, which violates our rule about jobs only from Chicago - The resumes gathered would also go to non-Python positions along with the Python position - The poster stated they are involved with the "Open Source Community," and they were not. - They would not give us a referral fee or help sponsor an event at any time in the future - I corresponded with a corporate contact, and they apologized and agreed we should deny the request Only was it after they were denied did they state they were referred to someone on the list. I asked "who", and they did not respond. Had they said it was "Brian Curtain" I would have privately told you as well why they were denied. Lastly, we are a little overwhelmed right now, but if you want to offer suggestions or help on managing the mailing list, feel free. We will consider those when we review that action item in the coming months. Yours, Brian _______________________________________________ Chicago mailing list Chicago at python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brianhray at gmail.com Tue Mar 4 00:15:57 2014 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 17:15:57 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Status of recruiters on this list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > > > The resumes gathered would be in their global database, which violates > our rule about jobs only from Chicago > I can get behind this, sort of... and by sort of, I mean it should be up > to the person who is looking for work to be aware, notified and in control, > and I think it's ok for Chipy to stipulate that only-Chicago jobs are what > we publicize. After that, if someone who submits is asked "do you want me > to look broader for you?" frankly, that's none of Chipy's business > (inappropriate coupling). Enlighten me if I'm missing somthing. If it is not a Chicago job, it does not belong on our list because it works against our efforts to build a local community. Loosing great talent is a huge problem in Chicago. Great schools, some good international resources, diversity (one of the reasons Boeing moved here, btw), many large fortune companies... still a problem with loosing talent. Our competitive sides should kick in here, we should promote Python Jobs (with good companies who really care, proven by donations and involvement) and good folks to stay in Chicago. - Brian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brian at python.org Tue Mar 4 00:29:16 2014 From: brian at python.org (Brian Curtin) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 17:29:16 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Status of recruiters on this list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 5:15 PM, Brian Ray wrote: >> > The resumes gathered would be in their global database, which violates >> > our rule about jobs only from Chicago >> I can get behind this, sort of... and by sort of, I mean it should be up >> to the person who is looking for work to be aware, notified and in control, >> and I think it's ok for Chipy to stipulate that only-Chicago jobs are what >> we publicize. After that, if someone who submits is asked "do you want me >> to look broader for you?" frankly, that's none of Chipy's business >> (inappropriate coupling). Enlighten me if I'm missing somthing. > > > > If it is not a Chicago job, it does not belong on our list because it works > against our efforts to build a local community. > > Loosing great talent is a huge problem in Chicago. Great schools, some good > international resources, diversity (one of the reasons Boeing moved here, > btw), many large fortune companies... still a problem with loosing talent. > Our competitive sides should kick in here, we should promote Python Jobs > (with good companies who really care, proven by donations and involvement) > and good folks to stay in Chicago. Some good points, but the previously mentioned criteria is so restrictive that I can't even remember the last times a recruiter has even gotten a post through. I don't care enough to go back and count and compare to the past, but it feels like they dropped out of nowhere over the last year on the list. From ken at stox.org Tue Mar 4 00:30:07 2014 From: ken at stox.org (Kenneth Stox) Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2014 17:30:07 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Status of recruiters on this list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1393889407.25292.1.camel@cerebrus> +1e6 > Loosing great talent is a huge problem in Chicago. Great schools, some > good international resources, diversity (one of the reasons Boeing > moved here, btw), many large fortune companies... still a problem with > loosing talent. Our competitive sides should kick in here, we should > promote Python Jobs (with good companies who really care, proven by > donations and involvement) and good folks to stay in Chicago. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago From emperorcezar at gmail.com Tue Mar 4 01:32:01 2014 From: emperorcezar at gmail.com (Adam "Cezar" Jenkins) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 18:32:01 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Status of recruiters on this list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm the person who pushes the approve button. By far, most make it through. Only occasionally does one not meet the criteria. That said, there are less recruiters trying to post in the first place. On Mar 3, 2014 5:29 PM, "Brian Curtin" wrote: > On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 5:15 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > >> > The resumes gathered would be in their global database, which violates > >> > our rule about jobs only from Chicago > >> I can get behind this, sort of... and by sort of, I mean it should be up > >> to the person who is looking for work to be aware, notified and in > control, > >> and I think it's ok for Chipy to stipulate that only-Chicago jobs are > what > >> we publicize. After that, if someone who submits is asked "do you > want me > >> to look broader for you?" frankly, that's none of Chipy's business > >> (inappropriate coupling). Enlighten me if I'm missing somthing. > > > > > > > > If it is not a Chicago job, it does not belong on our list because it > works > > against our efforts to build a local community. > > > > Loosing great talent is a huge problem in Chicago. Great schools, some > good > > international resources, diversity (one of the reasons Boeing moved here, > > btw), many large fortune companies... still a problem with loosing > talent. > > Our competitive sides should kick in here, we should promote Python Jobs > > (with good companies who really care, proven by donations and > involvement) > > and good folks to stay in Chicago. > > Some good points, but the previously mentioned criteria is so > restrictive that I can't even remember the last times a recruiter has > even gotten a post through. I don't care enough to go back and count > and compare to the past, but it feels like they dropped out of nowhere > over the last year on the list. > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pete at wearpants.org Tue Mar 4 21:13:56 2014 From: pete at wearpants.org (Peter Fein) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 14:13:56 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Status of recruiters on this list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'll second this, it's overly restrictive and just out of keeping with how recruiters work. How much is the referral fee? I've referred close to two dozen recruiters to the list/chipy.org over the last year or two and never seen a single post. It's not clear to me that the community is benefiting from this policy: we're trading job opportunities (and in turn, generally higher salaries) for beer money. It's a user group, not a drinking club. On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Brian Curtin wrote: > On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 5:15 PM, Brian Ray wrote: >>> > The resumes gathered would be in their global database, which violates >>> > our rule about jobs only from Chicago >>> I can get behind this, sort of... and by sort of, I mean it should be up >>> to the person who is looking for work to be aware, notified and in control, >>> and I think it's ok for Chipy to stipulate that only-Chicago jobs are what >>> we publicize. After that, if someone who submits is asked "do you want me >>> to look broader for you?" frankly, that's none of Chipy's business >>> (inappropriate coupling). Enlighten me if I'm missing somthing. >> >> >> >> If it is not a Chicago job, it does not belong on our list because it works >> against our efforts to build a local community. >> >> Loosing great talent is a huge problem in Chicago. Great schools, some good >> international resources, diversity (one of the reasons Boeing moved here, >> btw), many large fortune companies... still a problem with loosing talent. >> Our competitive sides should kick in here, we should promote Python Jobs >> (with good companies who really care, proven by donations and involvement) >> and good folks to stay in Chicago. > > Some good points, but the previously mentioned criteria is so > restrictive that I can't even remember the last times a recruiter has > even gotten a post through. I don't care enough to go back and count > and compare to the past, but it feels like they dropped out of nowhere > over the last year on the list. > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -- Peter Fein | wearpants.org | @wearpants I read email at the start and end of each day. IM if urgent. From pete at wearpants.org Tue Mar 4 21:09:27 2014 From: pete at wearpants.org (Peter Fein) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 14:09:27 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Status of recruiters on this list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > There is a current action item to review this process (moderation of mailing > list) by the ChiPy board. As it stands until then: I'm still waiting to know who the mysterious members of this board are that are making these decisions on the community's behalf about how a PSF resource is used. From heflin.rosst at gmail.com Tue Mar 4 21:21:59 2014 From: heflin.rosst at gmail.com (Ross Heflin) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 14:21:59 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Status of recruiters on this list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: IMHO: Anyone not willing to provide benefit for a community should not feel fine about profiting from it. When you're good to mama, mama's good to you. On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Peter Fein wrote: > I'll second this, it's overly restrictive and just out of keeping with > how recruiters work. How much is the referral fee? > > I've referred close to two dozen recruiters to the list/chipy.org over > the last year or two and never seen a single post. > > It's not clear to me that the community is benefiting from this > policy: we're trading job opportunities (and in turn, generally higher > salaries) for beer money. It's a user group, not a drinking club. > > On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Brian Curtin wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 5:15 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > >>> > The resumes gathered would be in their global database, which > violates > >>> > our rule about jobs only from Chicago > >>> I can get behind this, sort of... and by sort of, I mean it should be > up > >>> to the person who is looking for work to be aware, notified and in > control, > >>> and I think it's ok for Chipy to stipulate that only-Chicago jobs are > what > >>> we publicize. After that, if someone who submits is asked "do you > want me > >>> to look broader for you?" frankly, that's none of Chipy's business > >>> (inappropriate coupling). Enlighten me if I'm missing somthing. > >> > >> > >> > >> If it is not a Chicago job, it does not belong on our list because it > works > >> against our efforts to build a local community. > >> > >> Loosing great talent is a huge problem in Chicago. Great schools, some > good > >> international resources, diversity (one of the reasons Boeing moved > here, > >> btw), many large fortune companies... still a problem with loosing > talent. > >> Our competitive sides should kick in here, we should promote Python Jobs > >> (with good companies who really care, proven by donations and > involvement) > >> and good folks to stay in Chicago. > > > > Some good points, but the previously mentioned criteria is so > > restrictive that I can't even remember the last times a recruiter has > > even gotten a post through. I don't care enough to go back and count > > and compare to the past, but it feels like they dropped out of nowhere > > over the last year on the list. > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > -- > Peter Fein | wearpants.org | @wearpants > > I read email at the start and end of each day. IM if urgent. > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- >From the "desk" of Ross Heflin phone number: (847) <23,504,826th decimal place of pi> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jp at zavteq.com Tue Mar 4 23:04:58 2014 From: jp at zavteq.com (JP Bader) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 16:04:58 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Status of recruiters on this list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Actually, after stewing on it for a bit, I rewrote it to avoid the attacking: Pete - According to the minutes (which aren't available directly from the website, you either have to dig around or find a previous email can be found here: http://www.chipy.org/pages/chipy/board/), board members are: 1) Brian R 2) Adam B 3) Adam F 4) Randy B 5) Amber D 6) Jerry D That said, as you pointed out, Chipy is not a PSF resource. This email list (chicago at python.org) is. ChiPy is a privately owned club. The chicago at python.org is FOR EVERYONE, not just ChiPy, and that said, I'd really like to see more people administering that email list. Honestly, over the last few weeks we have seen nasty emails chide members of our great community. This is not only distasteful, it does not improve our community. And though some rodents might have contributed to the groups drinking and eating, whether or not a recruiter wants to line those folks' pockets should not mean a recruiter should not have access to our community. Work pays the bills. Transparency keeps us honest. The community as a whole deserves unimpeded and unfettered access to information. Clearly chicago at python.org is a public list for anyone who wants to be involved in the python community in and around Chicago (or frankly anywhere in the world). That's the beauty of the internet, everyone everywhere should get to participate. If there are now controls in place to block the group from seeing what 1-2 people think are spam, then the problem is that private interests are trumping the group. Unfortunately, reading the minutes from the club's board meetings thus far, it is truly enervating that a private board thinks it gets to decide information is disseminated to the community. The email does not belong to a club, it belongs to our community. If you don't care, then you aren't paying attention. It has been hard over the last few weeks to watch the email list get spammed with demands that anyone wishing to participate play by dictated rules, or be labelled a coward. After spending a fair amount of time to understand this behavior, I came to a peaceful conclusion that this isn't personal. I love the Python community, have learned a lot from different resources, and enjoy meeting people who are serious about learning and sharing. Thankfully I understand a lot more about ChiPy, how it's perceived, and am ok with that. Instead of being upset, I wish remain a part of chicago at python.org, and that means participating in a community where there are workshops, office hours, learning opportunities, and even *gasp* job opportunities. If the club owners wish to maintain control of their fiefdom, that's perfectly fine. It's under ownership, so why shouldn't they? chicago at python.org is part of the community, and nobody has more right than Pete, or myself, or [insert name here], to see what's coming to the community. For that, we need ultimate transparency. If it isn't obvious to someone who sits on the board of PSF, then there is a serious problem. Regardless of how quickly the ChiPy club wishes to address this, if other people are interested in participating as mods of chicago at python.org, please request Cezar to add you to the list directly. This is your group too. That said, Cezar, as a person who is committed to our community, learning, and participating in all things Python (when applicable) I am publicly requesting to be made an admin of the chicago at python.org mailing list. Regards, JP python >>> import this "Special cases aren't special enough to break the rules." *If you aren't participating because you don't want to be bullied, then you are paying attention! On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Peter Fein wrote: > On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > > There is a current action item to review this process (moderation of > mailing > > list) by the ChiPy board. As it stands until then: > > I'm still waiting to know who the mysterious members of this board are > that are making these decisions on the community's behalf about how a > PSF resource is used. > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- JP Bader Principal Zavteq, Inc. @lordB8r | jp at zavteq.com 608.692.2468 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wirth.jason at gmail.com Wed Mar 5 00:06:37 2014 From: wirth.jason at gmail.com (Jason Wirth) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 08:06:37 +0900 Subject: [Chicago] Status of recruiters on this list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: +1 to JP for including a link to the minutes. I remember something posted about it but thought there might be an email called "Chipy Meeting Minutes" send out after the meeting. On Wednesday, March 5, 2014, JP Bader wrote: > Actually, after stewing on it for a bit, I rewrote it to avoid the > attacking: > > Pete - > > According to the minutes (which aren't available directly from the > website, you either have to dig around or find a previous email can be > found here: http://www.chipy.org/pages/chipy/board/), board members are: > > 1) Brian R > 2) Adam B > 3) Adam F > 4) Randy B > 5) Amber D > 6) Jerry D > > That said, as you pointed out, Chipy is not a PSF resource. This email > list (chicago at python.org) is. > > ChiPy is a privately owned club. > > The chicago at python.org is FOR EVERYONE, not just ChiPy, and that said, > I'd really like to see more people administering that email list. > > Honestly, over the last few weeks we have seen nasty emails chide members > of our great community. This is not only distasteful, it does not improve > our community. And though some rodents might have contributed to the groups > drinking and eating, whether or not a recruiter wants to line those folks' > pockets should not mean a recruiter should not have access to our > community. Work pays the bills. Transparency keeps us honest. > > The community as a whole deserves unimpeded and unfettered access to > information. > > Clearly chicago at python.org is a public list for anyone who wants to be > involved in the python community in and around Chicago (or frankly anywhere > in the world). That's the beauty of the internet, everyone everywhere > should get to participate. If there are now controls in place to block the > group from seeing what 1-2 people think are spam, then the problem is that > private interests are trumping the group. > > Unfortunately, reading the minutes from the club's board meetings thus > far, it is truly enervating that a private board thinks it gets to decide > information is disseminated to the community. The email does not belong to > a club, it belongs to our community. > > If you don't care, then you aren't paying attention. > > It has been hard over the last few weeks to watch the email list get > spammed with demands that anyone wishing to participate play by dictated > rules, or be labelled a coward. After spending a fair amount of time to > understand this behavior, I came to a peaceful conclusion that this isn't > personal. > > I love the Python community, have learned a lot from different resources, > and enjoy meeting people who are serious about learning and sharing. > Thankfully I understand a lot more about ChiPy, how it's perceived, and am > ok with that. > > Instead of being upset, I wish remain a part of chicago at python.org, and > that means participating in a community where there are workshops, office > hours, learning opportunities, and even *gasp* job opportunities. > > If the club owners wish to maintain control of their fiefdom, that's > perfectly fine. It's under ownership, so why shouldn't they? > > chicago at python.org is part of the community, and nobody has more right > than Pete, or myself, or [insert name here], to see what's coming to the > community. For that, we need ultimate transparency. If it isn't obvious to > someone who sits on the board of PSF, then there is a serious problem. > > Regardless of how quickly the ChiPy club wishes to address this, if other > people are interested in participating as mods of chicago at python.org, > please request Cezar to add you to the list directly. This is your group > too. > > That said, Cezar, as a person who is committed to our community, learning, > and participating in all things Python (when applicable) I am publicly > requesting to be made an admin of the chicago at python.org mailing list. > > Regards, > > JP > > python >>> import this > > "Special cases aren't special enough to break the rules." > *If you aren't participating because you don't want to be bullied, then > you are paying attention! > > On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Peter Fein wrote: > >> On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Brian Ray wrote: >> > There is a current action item to review this process (moderation of >> mailing >> > list) by the ChiPy board. As it stands until then: >> >> I'm still waiting to know who the mysterious members of this board are >> that are making these decisions on the community's behalf about how a >> PSF resource is used. >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > > > -- > JP Bader > Principal > Zavteq, Inc. > @lordB8r | jp at zavteq.com > 608.692.2468 > -- -- Jason Wirth 213.675.5294 wirth.jason at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wirth.jason at gmail.com Wed Mar 5 00:16:09 2014 From: wirth.jason at gmail.com (Jason Wirth) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 08:16:09 +0900 Subject: [Chicago] Status of recruiters on this list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I also subscribe to emails from the NYC Python group. A while back I got one about a recruiting incident and their policy on recruiters. I find seeing different perspectives and how different groups handle situations differently interesting so I'm posting the email for people wanting more perspective. ----- Hi all, We recently had an another incident (!?!?!) where a recruiter became a member of the NYC Python Meetup (fine), and started reviewing member's profiles, trying to recruit them (bad). The even worse thing about this is that the recruiter told members of our group that he represents a company that has been a host/sponsor for our group (very bad). No matter who a recruiter represents, no matter where they're from, *this is not allowed*. It is stated in our rules that *no one recruits here*. Instead you sponsor. As a sponsor you get massive exposure through our event announcements, as well as time (5 minutes) to talk about the company/project, and convince developers to approach you. It is never the other way around. *Representing a sponsor does not mean the sponsor's recruiters have the right to a soliciting free-for-all through our member's profiles.* If this recruiter truly did represent a sponsor, we need to have a little talk with the sponsor, and remind them that something similar backfired several years ago, and resulted in the threat of a lawsuit by several members to the sponsor in violation of our rules. We have a job board in our discussion forum, so that recruiters have some way of posting jobs without harassing people in our group. But apparently some recruiters don't read rules, or think they're somehow exempt. *Recruiters, this group is not for you, it is for developers. Be warned that every developer you solicit could expose you, and it only takes one incident to get banned.* We have a zero tolerance policy. As stated before, you're not just exposed to us, but every NYC based organizer, sponsor and member who cares about this. It's definitely the expanse of exposure you wanted, but I guarantee, not the type of exposure you wanted. For those keeping a recruiter "no list", I have another one for you. Reply to this message with the subject "NO LIST" and I'll send you the recruiter's info. Developers: If a recruiter/hiring manager/etc pokes around your Meetup profile and/or solicits you through this group, and you're not happy about this, please let us know as soon as it happens, and forward all correspondence to us. We do our best to shield you from unwanted solicitation, and your privacy is important to us. Urgh? , Gloria On Wednesday, March 5, 2014, Jason Wirth wrote: > +1 to JP for including a link to the minutes. I remember something posted > about it but thought there might be an email called "Chipy Meeting Minutes" > send out after the meeting. > > > On Wednesday, March 5, 2014, JP Bader wrote: > > Actually, after stewing on it for a bit, I rewrote it to avoid the > attacking: > > Pete - > > According to the minutes (which aren't available directly from the > website, you either have to dig around or find a previous email can be > found here: http://www.chipy.org/pages/chipy/board/), board members are: > > 1) Brian R > 2) Adam B > 3) Adam F > 4) Randy B > 5) Amber D > 6) Jerry D > > That said, as you pointed out, Chipy is not a PSF resource. This email > list (chicago at python.org) is. > > ChiPy is a privately owned club. > > The chicago at python.org is FOR EVERYONE, not just ChiPy, and that said, > I'd really like to see more people administering that email list. > > Honestly, over the last few weeks we have seen nasty emails chide members > of our great community. This is not only distasteful, it does not improve > our community. And though some rodents might have contributed to the groups > drinking and eating, whether or not a recruiter wants to line those folks' > pockets should not mean a recruiter should not have access to our > community. Work pays the bills. Transparency keeps us honest. > > The community as a whole deserves unimpeded and unfettered access to > information. > > Clearly chicago at python.org is a public list for anyone who wants to be > involved in the python community in and around Chicago (or frankly anywhere > in the world). That's the beauty of the internet, everyone everywhere > should get to participate. If there are now controls in place to block the > group from seeing what 1-2 people think are spam, then the problem is that > private interests are trumping the group. > > Unfortunately, reading the minutes from the club's board meetings thus > far, it is truly enervating that a private board thinks it gets to decide > information is disseminated to the community. The email does not belong to > a club, it belongs to our community. > > If you don't care, then you aren't paying attention. > > It has been hard over the last few weeks to watch the email list get > spammed with demands that anyone wishing to participate play by dictated > rules, or be labelled a coward. After spending a fair amount of time to > understand this behavior, I came to a peaceful conclusion that this isn't > personal. > > I love the Python community, have learned a lot from different resources, > and enjoy meeting people who are serious about learning and sharing. > Thankfully I understand a lot more about ChiPy, how it's perceived, and am > ok with that. > > Instead of being upset, I wish remain a part of chicago at python.org, and > that means participating in a community where there are workshops, office > hours, learning opportunities, and even *gasp* job opportunities. > > If the club owners wish to maintain control of their fiefdom, that's > perfectly fine. It's under ownership, so why shouldn't they? > > chicago at python.org is part of the community, and nobody has more right > than Pete, or myself, or [insert name here], to see what's coming to the > community. For that, we need ultimate transparency. If it isn't obvious to > someone who sits on the board of PSF, then there is a serious problem. > > Regardless of how quickly the ChiPy club wishes to address this, if other > people are interested in participating as mods of chicago at python.org, > please request Cezar to add you to the list directly. This is your group > too. > > That said, Cezar, as a person who is committed to our community, learning, > and participating in all things Python (when applicable) I am publicly > requesting to be made an admin of the chicago at python.org mailing list. > > Regards, > > JP > > python >>> import this > > "Special cases aren't special enough to break the rules." > *If you aren't participating because you don't want to be bullied, then > you are paying attention! > > On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Peter Fein wrote: > > -- > > -- > Jason Wirth > 213.675.5294 > wirth.jason at gmail.com > -- -- Jason Wirth 213.675.5294 wirth.jason at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From emperorcezar at gmail.com Wed Mar 5 03:27:32 2014 From: emperorcezar at gmail.com (Cezar Jenkins) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 20:27:32 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Status of recruiters on this list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Replies inline. --? Cezar Jenkins @emperorcezar From:?JP Bader JP Bader Reply:?The Chicago Python Users Group chicago at python.org Date:?March 4, 2014 at 4:36:01 PM To:?The Chicago Python Users Group chicago at python.org Subject:? Re: [Chicago] Status of recruiters on this list Actually, after stewing on it for a bit, I rewrote it to avoid the attacking: Pete -? According to the minutes (which aren't available directly from the website, you either have to dig around or find a previous email can be found here:?http://www.chipy.org/pages/chipy/board/), board members are: 1) Brian R 2) Adam B 3) Adam F 4) Randy B 5) Amber D 6) Jerry D I agree. There should be an organization part of the website. Pull request welcome. That said, as you pointed out, Chipy is not a PSF resource. This email list (chicago at python.org) is.? I agree. ChiPy is a privately owned club.? Like a speakeasy?? The?chicago at python.org?is FOR EVERYONE, not just ChiPy, and that said, I'd really like to see more people administering that email list.? I might agree. I don?t know the history of it?s creation though. If it was created for ChiPy by the PSF, then it?s for ChiPy. If it was created for Chicago, then you?re right. Honestly, over the last few weeks we have seen nasty emails chide members of our great community. This is not only distasteful, it does not improve our community. And though some rodents might have contributed to the groups drinking and eating, whether or not a recruiter wants to line those folks' pockets should not mean a recruiter should not have access to our community. Work pays the bills. Transparency keeps us honest. ?rodents?. I see what you did there. "line those folks? pockets?. Speaking of nasty emails. The community as a whole deserves unimpeded and unfettered access to information.? I agree. If mailman made this easier, it would be awesome. It might, but I don?t know how to access a list of emails and moderation actions. Clearly?chicago at python.org?is a public list for anyone who wants to be involved in the python community in and around Chicago (or frankly anywhere in the world). That's the beauty of the internet, everyone everywhere should get to participate. If there are now controls in place to block the group from seeing what 1-2 people think are spam, then the problem is that private interests are trumping the group.? See above about who the list was created for. Maybe there should be a chipy at python.org, or a discuss at chipy.org? I would guarantee that many more than 1 or 2 people think that recruitment emails are spam. It?s very much a balance, and there have to be rules. Unfortunately, reading the minutes from the club's board meetings thus far, it is truly enervating that a private board thinks it gets to decide information is disseminated to the community. The email does not belong to a club, it belongs to our community. ?Private board?. You?re being unduly harsh to people volunteering their time. These people were asked to be on the board, and while you may not agree with the ?requirements?, there are those that do agree. I do think they are too harsh, and if there is not a framework in place to change them, then there should be. Nowhere was it ever stated that those requirements will never change. Brian used those as a starting point. No starting point was ever going to be agreed upon by everyone. If you don't care, then you aren't paying attention.? It has been hard over the last few weeks to watch the email list get spammed with demands that anyone wishing to participate play by dictated rules, or be labelled a coward. After spending a fair amount of time to understand this behavior, I came to a peaceful conclusion that this isn't personal.? I don?t see anyone being labeled a coward. By either ?side". I love the Python community, have learned a lot from different resources, and enjoy meeting people who are serious about learning and sharing. Thankfully I understand a lot more about ChiPy, how it's perceived, and am ok with that. Instead of being upset, I wish remain a part of?chicago at python.org, and that means participating in a community where there are workshops, office hours, learning opportunities, and even *gasp* job opportunities. If the club owners wish to maintain control of their fiefdom, that's perfectly fine. It's under ownership, so why shouldn't they?? The above sentence is uncalled for. chicago at python.org?is part of the community, and nobody has more right than Pete, or myself, or [insert name here], to see what's coming to the community. For that, we need ultimate transparency. If it isn't obvious to someone who sits on the board of PSF, then there is a serious problem.? Regardless of how quickly the ChiPy club wishes to address this, if other people are interested in participating as mods of?chicago at python.org, please request Cezar to add you to the list directly. This is your group too. That said, Cezar, as a person who is committed to our community, learning, and participating in all things Python (when applicable) I am publicly requesting to be made an admin of the?chicago at python.org?mailing list. Your request is heard, but since there is a ridiculous amount of ?help! I?m being oppressed!? (see, I can write snarky comments too) going around then we _somehow_ need to determine the rules of what can come through the list. There is legitimate spam, there are people who accidentally attempt to post to the list with emails they don?t wish to be public, there are recruiters who?ve tried to post the same job multiple times in the same week. I?m perfectly willing to add more admins to the list. I welcome it, as I don?t have a lot of time on my hands. But, there has to be some kind of policy of who can be an admin. Else a spammer can just become an admin and push through their own stuff. I really don?t care how the group makes this decision. Could be a board, a dictator, or an internet poll. I do want to see a decision made though before I add anyone to the admin. Regards, JP python >>> import this "Special cases aren't special enough to break the rules." *If you aren't participating because you don't want to be bullied, then you are paying attention! On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Peter Fein??wrote: On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > There is a current action item to review this process (moderation of mailing > list) by the ChiPy board. As it stands until then: I'm still waiting to know who the mysterious members of this board are that are making these decisions on the community's behalf about how a PSF resource is used. _______________________________________________ Chicago mailing list Chicago at python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -- JP Bader Principal Zavteq, Inc. @lordB8r |?jp at zavteq.com 608.692.2468 _______________________________________________? Chicago mailing list? Chicago at python.org? https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From amberdoctor at gmail.com Wed Mar 5 04:22:59 2014 From: amberdoctor at gmail.com (Amber Doctor) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 21:22:59 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Chicago Python Project Night Message-ID: Hi Everyone, I wanted to pass on this python event. It's on the third Thursday of this month, March 20th. You can read more details on meetup.com or github. http://www.meetup.com/ChicagoPythonistas/events/169433682/ http://chicagopythonworkshop.github.io/chicago-project-night/ Here's some teaser information copied from the site: Come work on Python projects, get programming help, help others, and hang out in a friendly setting. Bring your own project or work on one of the suggested projects below. *When*: Thursday, March 20, 2014 *Audience*: everyone! We'll have something for all Python experience levels. *Signup*: you must *register* for this event on Chicago Pythonistas Meetup . *Food*: Will be provided. *Location*: This month's meeting is at Braintree 111 N Canal St, Suite 455, Chicago, IL (open street map ) (google map ) *Questions*: Any questions? email cpw-staff at lists.openhatch.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I usually > don't like being the dartboard that (some) recruiters are throwing > their job darts at, but this one actually lined up with some stuff I > had previously done. Since I'm not looking and I know others are, I > figured I'd pass it on. > > When their posting was held for moderation, the response they got was > less than a happy one. As you can see, it's still not posted. > > Allowing local recruiters to post local jobs to our local community is > good for everyone involved, and it's fairly standard practice around > the other user groups in the Python world. I think we'd all rather see > a local person get a local job than see companies have to relocate > people to fill their spots. > > So, what is the deal here? > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From randy7771026 at gmail.com Wed Mar 5 14:12:36 2014 From: randy7771026 at gmail.com (Randy Baxley) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 07:12:36 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Lists for types of topics Message-ID: Thank you Cezar and Jason for your reasoned responses to the group. Of course I will be less reasoned. Just as many, including me, wish to be able to control advances by those who court us, there seems to also be a time for those reasoned advances and separate list where devophyles are not welcome may be part of the answer. Be sure include a SaaS at chipy.org social and absolutely stupid communicators. Randy On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 8:27 PM, Cezar Jenkins wrote: Maybe there should be a chipy at python.org, or a discuss at chipy.org? > > I would guarantee that many more than 1 or 2 people think that recruitment > emails are spam. It's very much a balance, and there have to be rules. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brian at python.org Wed Mar 5 15:37:13 2014 From: brian at python.org (Brian Curtin) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 08:37:13 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Status of recruiters on this list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 6:53 AM, Randy Baxley wrote: > Hello Brian Curtin and Chicago list users, > > This question is for Brian Curtain @ Python dot Org. Is this list the > property of Python.Org? I don't think that's the question you mean to be asking, since an internet domain isn't something that can hold ownership. The python.org domain and associated web properties (such as mailing lists) are provided by, maintained by, and owned by the Python Software Foundation. From yarkot1 at gmail.com Wed Mar 5 16:34:50 2014 From: yarkot1 at gmail.com (Yarko Tymciurak) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 10:34:50 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Status of recruiters on this list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Apologies. A couple of points: I asked what I thought were a few simple questions about restricting announcements of Python job availability in the Chicago area with additional constraints. Brian R responded w/ "If it is not a Chicago job, it does not belong on our list..." I don't think I put this in question. My query resulted in various responses - including about boundary conditions / recruiter spam. I can get some - e.g. the examples from the NY group of harvesting user lists. I can also see repeated sends to list w/ "call me for Python jobs!" as spam-not-service. I see things like: "Python dev, downtown; 3+ yrs experience + django; see [link] for more info" as of service, not spam. I intended to raise discussion about extending conditions around these types of requests (such as "must be open source", or "can't offer to list people who contact you for any other, non-python jobs", or "give us a fee"). My intended aspect was centered around what is logically of service to Chipy people (not one of control, agreement, etc.). I was grateful for some of the enlightening posts in this direction, and also sorry to see some of the reactive responses. Regards, Yarko Hello Brian Curtin and Chicago list users, This question is for Brian Curtain @ Python dot Org. Is this list the property of Python.Org? Randy On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Brian Curtin wrote: > What is the status of recruiter emails and this mailing list? I seem > to remember at some point it was allowable for local recruiters > offering local jobs to occasionally post their openings, versus > allowing spammy recruiters or ones offering jobs that would require > relocation. > > The other day I had a recruiter email me with a local job on what > appears to be a pretty cool product at a local company. I usually > don't like being the dartboard that (some) recruiters are throwing > their job darts at, but this one actually lined up with some stuff I > had previously done. Since I'm not looking and I know others are, I > figured I'd pass it on. > > When their posting was held for moderation, the response they got was > less than a happy one. As you can see, it's still not posted. > > Allowing local recruiters to post local jobs to our local community is > good for everyone involved, and it's fairly standard practice around > the other user groups in the Python world. I think we'd all rather see > a local person get a local job than see companies have to relocate > people to fill their spots. > > So, what is the deal here? > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > _______________________________________________ Chicago mailing list Chicago at python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From amberdoctor at gmail.com Wed Mar 5 17:51:41 2014 From: amberdoctor at gmail.com (Amber Doctor) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 10:51:41 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Python Rules Engine Message-ID: Hi Everyone, I'm interested in python based rules engines and wondered if anyone had any good recommendations to use (or avoid)? I'm also open to articles discussing the topic that you have found interesting or helpful. 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URL: From sam.lahti at gmail.com Wed Mar 5 18:16:02 2014 From: sam.lahti at gmail.com (Samuel Lahti) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 11:16:02 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] CTA endpoints Message-ID: I didnt know about the unofficial api listings. I've been puddling around with the "official" "bus tracker" and "train tracker" apis for an android app I'm building. Once you sign up for a key, they give you 10k requests/day but you can request to up that. Downside is parsing the XML responses and kind of poor attribute names, but the docs aren't too complex and you can just map models to the schema docs. Online docs give enough detail to get most pertinent info with some references in appendices for codes and some logic of flags. Think it took about 2 weeks to get a key, its free. http://www.transitchicago.com/developers/bustracker.aspx http://www.transitchicago.com/developers/traintracker.aspx On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Randy Baxley wrote: > > I recently worked through David Beazley's example from his talk at Pycon > Last year which can be found on Pyvideo. In it he mentions Harper Reed's > unofficial cta api web site which in turn mentions Dan X. O'Neal. I am > continuing on from that base to in python to build a more me centric and > then a more you centric bus and train tracker. Wondering if there are more > endpoints I might find useful? > > Randy > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From randy7771026 at gmail.com Wed Mar 5 18:47:52 2014 From: randy7771026 at gmail.com (Randy Baxley) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 11:47:52 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] CTA endpoints In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Was not sure I wanted to agree to terms of use though I did not read them. I may have to do that but I do worry that I am somehow giving up a bit of openness when I do. On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Samuel Lahti wrote: > I didnt know about the unofficial api listings. I've been puddling around > with the "official" "bus tracker" and "train tracker" apis for an android > app I'm building. > > Once you sign up for a key, they give you 10k requests/day but you can > request to up that. Downside is parsing the XML responses and kind of poor > attribute names, but the docs aren't too complex and you can just map > models to the schema docs. Online docs give enough detail to get most > pertinent info with some references in appendices for codes and some logic > of flags. > > Think it took about 2 weeks to get a key, its free. > > http://www.transitchicago.com/developers/bustracker.aspx > http://www.transitchicago.com/developers/traintracker.aspx > > > > On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Randy Baxley wrote: > >> >> I recently worked through David Beazley's example from his talk at Pycon >> Last year which can be found on Pyvideo. In it he mentions Harper Reed's >> unofficial cta api web site which in turn mentions Dan X. O'Neal. I am >> continuing on from that base to in python to build a more me centric and >> then a more you centric bus and train tracker. Wondering if there are more >> endpoints I might find useful? >> >> Randy >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brianhray at gmail.com Wed Mar 5 18:51:42 2014 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 11:51:42 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Python Rules Engine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have played a bit with integrating Python with Drools (Java). I would love an update on this topic. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eviljoel at linux.com Thu Mar 6 04:00:28 2014 From: eviljoel at linux.com (eviljoel) Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2014 21:00:28 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] GNU MediaGoblin campaign for federation and privacy in 2014! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5317E4CC.2090606@linux.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hey All, My friend Chris Webber is throwing another fundraiser for his open source project MediaGoblin. MediaGoblin is like a decentralized YouTube. The idea is, if YouTube gets taken down for whatever reason, 1000s of cat videos will be lost. If our media content is decentralized, one take down order will have far less impact. Also, storing our media in a decentralized way makes it harder for the NSA to spy on us. Media Goblin is Chris's own project that he works on full time. The fundraiser is in collaboration with the Free Software Foundation and I personally trust this guy, so you can be assured your donation will be put to good use. Donate here: http://mediagoblin.org/pages/campaign.html (Reasons this e-mail might be on topic: Chris has spoken at Flourish, our local Open Source Software conference. MediaGoblin itself is free and open source and is written in Python.) Thank you, eviljoel - -------- Original Message -------- Subject: GNU MediaGoblin campaign for federation and privacy in 2014! Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 16:20:47 -0500 From: Chris Webber Reply-To: Chris Webber To: Joel Luellwitz Hello all, I'm excited to announce that GNU MediaGoblin has launched our new fundraising campaign. We've got a wonderful new video that I think clearly explains our goals for the coming year... check it out ! Thanks to your support, this last year has been really excellent! We've pushed out five major releases, and hosted six successful internships through Summer of Code and Outreach Program for Women. Plus, we began integrating federation into the main GNU MediaGoblin codebase and making a general purpose federation library called PyPump. We want to make the coming year the year of /Getting GNU MediaGoblin in the hands of the people/! So we're asking for your help. We've partnered up again with the Free Software Foundation , and we've got a lot of cool things planned: wrapping up federation support and releasing version 1.0, adding new privacy features, podcast support, and making GNU MediaGoblin even easier to run and deploy -- oh yeah! We're offering some sweet rewards! Take a look . Did I mention that since the FSF is a 501(c)(3) charity, your donations are tax-deductible in the U.S.? This also means if your employer matches charitable contributions, you have the option to magnify your donation to GNU MediaGoblin! And finally, for folks who dig our work all year round, we've set up monthly donations. Thanks again for your help! /You/ make this possible! Christopher Allan Webber, GNU MediaGoblin lead developer PS: Anything you can do to spread the word of the campaign REALLY helps! Word of mouth from our supporters is the most effective way to get our message out there, so if you can tell your family and friends, and post to your blog or social networks... we'll be able to build the future of the Web! PPS: Thanks again! Seriously, you rock! - -- Follow us on identi.ca at http://identi.ca/mediagoblin Contribute to GNU MediaGoblin at http://mediagoblin.org/pages/campaign.html Sent on behalf of GNU MediaGoblin by the Free Software Foundation, 51 Franklin Street Fifth Floor Boston, MA 02110-1335 United States You can unsubscribe to this mailing-list by visiting the link https://crm.fsf.org/civicrm/mailing/unsubscribe?reset=1&jid=129532&qid=7041212&h=23aa8468d449bb34. 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In-Reply-To: <5317E4CC.2090606@linux.com> References: <5317E4CC.2090606@linux.com> Message-ID: <53180BDB.8070007@hafd.org> Chris is also an old school Chipy guy who presenting here many times in the past. He's an incredibly solid guy and a good friend of many people on this list. Mediagoblin is a cool project and I'm really glad Chris is working on it. I contributed to the previous fundraiser and this one as well, and encourage everyone to do the same. On 03/05/2014 09:00 PM, eviljoel wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hey All, > > My friend Chris Webber is throwing another fundraiser for his open > source project MediaGoblin. MediaGoblin is like a decentralized > YouTube. The idea is, if YouTube gets taken down for whatever reason, > 1000s of cat videos will be lost. If our media content is > decentralized, one take down order will have far less impact. Also, > storing our media in a decentralized way makes it harder for the NSA > to spy on us. > > Media Goblin is Chris's own project that he works on full time. The > fundraiser is in collaboration with the Free Software Foundation and I > personally trust this guy, so you can be assured your donation will be > put to good use. Donate here: http://mediagoblin.org/pages/campaign.html > > (Reasons this e-mail might be on topic: Chris has spoken at Flourish, > our local Open Source Software conference. MediaGoblin itself is free > and open source and is written in Python.) > > Thank you, > eviljoel > > > - -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: GNU MediaGoblin campaign for federation and privacy in 2014! > Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 16:20:47 -0500 > From: Chris Webber > Reply-To: Chris Webber > To: Joel Luellwitz > > > > Hello all, > > I'm excited to announce that GNU MediaGoblin has launched our new > fundraising campaign. We've got a wonderful new video that I think > clearly explains our goals for the coming year... check it out > ! > > Thanks to your support, this last year has been really excellent! We've > pushed out five major releases, and hosted six successful internships > through Summer of Code and Outreach Program for Women. Plus, we began > integrating federation into the main GNU MediaGoblin codebase and making > a general purpose federation library called PyPump. > > We want to make the coming year the year of /Getting GNU MediaGoblin in > the hands of the people/! > > So we're asking for your help. We've partnered up again with the Free > Software Foundation , and we've got a lot of cool > things planned: wrapping up federation support and releasing version > 1.0, adding new privacy features, podcast support, and making GNU > MediaGoblin even easier to run and deploy -- oh yeah! > > We're offering some sweet rewards! Take a look > . > > Did I mention that since the FSF is a 501(c)(3) charity, your donations > are tax-deductible in the U.S.? This also means if your employer matches > charitable contributions, you have the option to magnify your donation > to GNU MediaGoblin! And finally, for folks who dig our work all year > round, we've set up monthly donations. > > Thanks again for your help! /You/ make this possible! > > Christopher Allan Webber, > GNU MediaGoblin lead developer > > PS: Anything you can do to spread the word of the campaign REALLY helps! > Word of mouth from our supporters is the most effective way to get our > message out there, so if you can tell your family and friends, and post > to your blog or social networks... we'll be able to build the future of > the Web! > > PPS: Thanks again! Seriously, you rock! > > > - -- > Follow us on identi.ca at http://identi.ca/mediagoblin > Contribute to GNU MediaGoblin at > http://mediagoblin.org/pages/campaign.html > > Sent on behalf of GNU MediaGoblin by the Free Software Foundation, > > 51 Franklin Street > Fifth Floor > Boston, MA 02110-1335 > United States > > You can unsubscribe to this mailing-list by visiting the link > https://crm.fsf.org/civicrm/mailing/unsubscribe?reset=1&jid=129532&qid=7041212&h=23aa8468d449bb34. > > > To stop all email from the Free Software Foundation, including Defective > by Design, > and the Free Software Supporter newsletter, click this link: > > https://crm.fsf.org/civicrm/mailing/optout?reset=1&jid=129532&qid=7041212&h=23aa8468d449bb34. > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ > > iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJTF+TKAAoJEN+zZ2sZbWQwTI0P/0oZA4414j3gJgcRm+M8H0qZ > 5vOkPx5w3Wq2GNFVGHARiciQg6Sv07VodBxMbcSzljXW7lLFQLybheqdjH7UO42O > KHur7LY85oIw9HQ/BcCgZyJdUlVdUaSJRMJw6MPosGQDrMX9HB+nwPxESihEd1zP > uJfTp3wcxy+Mn3KP+Ei1/P9275zUrAkc4t8XcjGDe6JbyeSLhjuheMNmG9JI/Qev > Aq0mQD65YLifpS8Miu6iy/R5LOoiO6A38gqYy/frJBXDlYebWPHA/vac51dxcANm > MSdSxbovF4x62aGRwpWHjOMRfID650JK5i2+CFajK53FhNQG7NafV2nIjdxFbQlf > qUYo3WGdIIE9LYQOdpfZRBouHw7es7HM7kKzp2nVmBBPOQLfyNFl+d0bDXvb6uhP > Hdek83L/b7YUQxxrJwO40IOo/Lx+LqKwNwcC7llkiHQFJvjt38H/5Yr1eOv3Guzn > lvTEWuNoA4wD6+5IOdcVkC0NmYrf1W9pERB0uifEGAXHu+33jbUv25mU6RshDO4S > CCLaciaHcXql2/bSo/EgIgUK+5jDFpt2orh7ZqFR6z5o+eexQOrl/FSQtCnxL9sr > B9gUw29hCFSIKVf1LA+CZZVREhJF3Refd0QfbzXF92Og8mYlT1ySFNtrdnXHgrMt > uZ6+LPgbJpiqtqMgEj9s > =9HtU > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago From randy7771026 at gmail.com Thu Mar 6 14:25:23 2014 From: randy7771026 at gmail.com (Randy Baxley) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2014 07:25:23 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] GNU MediaGoblin campaign for federation and privacy in 2014! In-Reply-To: <5317E4CC.2090606@linux.com> References: <5317E4CC.2090606@linux.com> Message-ID: I guess it was Chris who presented at the first meeting I attended. It was in a shared space over by the Westin on Dearborn. A map I pulled up says that is the Quaker Oats Building. I do not remember that. I do remember Sheila and several others being in the back and later meeting Carl and Sheila at office hours at PS:One being very enthusiastic during the MediaGoblin presentation. Someone needs to capture a video of the cat that comes out on the roof on a house close to the Brown line and Clark's. That cat hollers at everyone who passes and the owner has a sign on her door not to knock that she knows the cat is out there. The other parts I remember is the other presenter was part of that shared space that seemed on the edge of the incubator idea. His presentation was on health and fitness type data feeds of some kind. Do not remember that much but do remember he also helped me find my way back to the Blue Line that night. Would that night be on PyVideo? On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 9:00 PM, eviljoel wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hey All, > > My friend Chris Webber is throwing another fundraiser for his open > source project MediaGoblin. MediaGoblin is like a decentralized > YouTube. The idea is, if YouTube gets taken down for whatever reason, > 1000s of cat videos will be lost. If our media content is > decentralized, one take down order will have far less impact. Also, > storing our media in a decentralized way makes it harder for the NSA > to spy on us. > > Media Goblin is Chris's own project that he works on full time. The > fundraiser is in collaboration with the Free Software Foundation and I > personally trust this guy, so you can be assured your donation will be > put to good use. Donate here: http://mediagoblin.org/pages/campaign.html > > (Reasons this e-mail might be on topic: Chris has spoken at Flourish, > our local Open Source Software conference. MediaGoblin itself is free > and open source and is written in Python.) > > Thank you, > eviljoel > > > - -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: GNU MediaGoblin campaign for federation and privacy in > 2014! > Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 16:20:47 -0500 > From: Chris Webber > Reply-To: Chris Webber > To: Joel Luellwitz > > > > Hello all, > > I'm excited to announce that GNU MediaGoblin has launched our new > fundraising campaign. We've got a wonderful new video that I think > clearly explains our goals for the coming year... check it out > ! > > Thanks to your support, this last year has been really excellent! We've > pushed out five major releases, and hosted six successful internships > through Summer of Code and Outreach Program for Women. Plus, we began > integrating federation into the main GNU MediaGoblin codebase and making > a general purpose federation library called PyPump. > > We want to make the coming year the year of /Getting GNU MediaGoblin in > the hands of the people/! > > So we're asking for your help. We've partnered up again with the Free > Software Foundation , and we've got a lot of cool > things planned: wrapping up federation support and releasing version > 1.0, adding new privacy features, podcast support, and making GNU > MediaGoblin even easier to run and deploy -- oh yeah! > > We're offering some sweet rewards! Take a look > . > > Did I mention that since the FSF is a 501(c)(3) charity, your donations > are tax-deductible in the U.S.? This also means if your employer matches > charitable contributions, you have the option to magnify your donation > to GNU MediaGoblin! And finally, for folks who dig our work all year > round, we've set up monthly donations. > > Thanks again for your help! /You/ make this possible! > > Christopher Allan Webber, > GNU MediaGoblin lead developer > > PS: Anything you can do to spread the word of the campaign REALLY helps! > Word of mouth from our supporters is the most effective way to get our > message out there, so if you can tell your family and friends, and post > to your blog or social networks... we'll be able to build the future of > the Web! > > PPS: Thanks again! 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URL: From cwebber at dustycloud.org Thu Mar 6 17:32:39 2014 From: cwebber at dustycloud.org (Christopher Allan Webber) Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2014 10:32:39 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] GNU MediaGoblin campaign for federation and privacy in 2014! In-Reply-To: <53180BDB.8070007@hafd.org> References: <5317E4CC.2090606@linux.com> <53180BDB.8070007@hafd.org> Message-ID: <87ob1jp9so.fsf@earlgrey.lan> Thanks Joel, Jordan, :) Thanks for the kind words and for pointing to the campaign. It's been a long time in prep, especially on that video... lots of Blender and Python used in the making of that, a topic I've talked on before at ChiPy: http://mediagoblin.org/pages/campaign.html Anyway, yes, anything people can do to donate or spread the word: hugely appreciated. http://mediagoblin.org/news/help-spread-the-campaign.html We're trying to do save-the-internet things here... that includes working on a general purpose Python library I've thought of giving a talk on at some point: http://pypump.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ ... but I think I'm interested in giving that talk once the federation stuff is actually working. But speaking of, there are some talks I've thought of giving... maybe it would make sense for me to give a ChiPy talk sometime soonish (next month? Possibly this month but that would be pushing it)... two talks I'm interested in giving, if people are possibly interested in hearing them: - The Road Ahead for Network Freedom - XUDD: an actor model system built on top of asyncio: http://xudd.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ Anyway, thanks ChiPy! I hope to see Chicago again soon... - Chris jordanb at hafd.org writes: > Chris is also an old school Chipy guy who presenting here many times in > the past. He's an incredibly solid guy and a good friend of many people > on this list. > > Mediagoblin is a cool project and I'm really glad Chris is working on > it. I contributed to the previous fundraiser and this one as well, and > encourage everyone to do the same. > > > On 03/05/2014 09:00 PM, eviljoel wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Hey All, >> >> My friend Chris Webber is throwing another fundraiser for his open >> source project MediaGoblin. MediaGoblin is like a decentralized >> YouTube. The idea is, if YouTube gets taken down for whatever reason, >> 1000s of cat videos will be lost. If our media content is >> decentralized, one take down order will have far less impact. Also, >> storing our media in a decentralized way makes it harder for the NSA >> to spy on us. >> >> Media Goblin is Chris's own project that he works on full time. The >> fundraiser is in collaboration with the Free Software Foundation and I >> personally trust this guy, so you can be assured your donation will be >> put to good use. Donate here: http://mediagoblin.org/pages/campaign.html >> >> (Reasons this e-mail might be on topic: Chris has spoken at Flourish, >> our local Open Source Software conference. MediaGoblin itself is free >> and open source and is written in Python.) >> >> Thank you, >> eviljoel >> >> >> - -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: GNU MediaGoblin campaign for federation and privacy in 2014! >> Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 16:20:47 -0500 >> From: Chris Webber >> Reply-To: Chris Webber >> To: Joel Luellwitz >> >> >> >> Hello all, >> >> I'm excited to announce that GNU MediaGoblin has launched our new >> fundraising campaign. We've got a wonderful new video that I think >> clearly explains our goals for the coming year... check it out >> ! >> >> Thanks to your support, this last year has been really excellent! We've >> pushed out five major releases, and hosted six successful internships >> through Summer of Code and Outreach Program for Women. Plus, we began >> integrating federation into the main GNU MediaGoblin codebase and making >> a general purpose federation library called PyPump. >> >> We want to make the coming year the year of /Getting GNU MediaGoblin in >> the hands of the people/! >> >> So we're asking for your help. We've partnered up again with the Free >> Software Foundation , and we've got a lot of cool >> things planned: wrapping up federation support and releasing version >> 1.0, adding new privacy features, podcast support, and making GNU >> MediaGoblin even easier to run and deploy -- oh yeah! >> >> We're offering some sweet rewards! Take a look >> . >> >> Did I mention that since the FSF is a 501(c)(3) charity, your donations >> are tax-deductible in the U.S.? This also means if your employer matches >> charitable contributions, you have the option to magnify your donation >> to GNU MediaGoblin! And finally, for folks who dig our work all year >> round, we've set up monthly donations. >> >> Thanks again for your help! /You/ make this possible! >> >> Christopher Allan Webber, >> GNU MediaGoblin lead developer >> >> PS: Anything you can do to spread the word of the campaign REALLY helps! >> Word of mouth from our supporters is the most effective way to get our >> message out there, so if you can tell your family and friends, and post >> to your blog or social networks... we'll be able to build the future of >> the Web! >> >> PPS: Thanks again! Seriously, you rock! >> >> >> - -- >> Follow us on identi.ca at http://identi.ca/mediagoblin >> Contribute to GNU MediaGoblin at >> http://mediagoblin.org/pages/campaign.html >> >> Sent on behalf of GNU MediaGoblin by the Free Software Foundation, >> >> 51 Franklin Street >> Fifth Floor >> Boston, MA 02110-1335 >> United States >> >> You can unsubscribe to this mailing-list by visiting the link >> https://crm.fsf.org/civicrm/mailing/unsubscribe?reset=1&jid=129532&qid=7041212&h=23aa8468d449bb34. >> >> >> To stop all email from the Free Software Foundation, including Defective >> by Design, >> and the Free Software Supporter newsletter, click this link: >> >> https://crm.fsf.org/civicrm/mailing/optout?reset=1&jid=129532&qid=7041212&h=23aa8468d449bb34. >> >> >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) >> Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ >> >> iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJTF+TKAAoJEN+zZ2sZbWQwTI0P/0oZA4414j3gJgcRm+M8H0qZ >> 5vOkPx5w3Wq2GNFVGHARiciQg6Sv07VodBxMbcSzljXW7lLFQLybheqdjH7UO42O >> KHur7LY85oIw9HQ/BcCgZyJdUlVdUaSJRMJw6MPosGQDrMX9HB+nwPxESihEd1zP >> uJfTp3wcxy+Mn3KP+Ei1/P9275zUrAkc4t8XcjGDe6JbyeSLhjuheMNmG9JI/Qev >> Aq0mQD65YLifpS8Miu6iy/R5LOoiO6A38gqYy/frJBXDlYebWPHA/vac51dxcANm >> MSdSxbovF4x62aGRwpWHjOMRfID650JK5i2+CFajK53FhNQG7NafV2nIjdxFbQlf >> qUYo3WGdIIE9LYQOdpfZRBouHw7es7HM7kKzp2nVmBBPOQLfyNFl+d0bDXvb6uhP >> Hdek83L/b7YUQxxrJwO40IOo/Lx+LqKwNwcC7llkiHQFJvjt38H/5Yr1eOv3Guzn >> lvTEWuNoA4wD6+5IOdcVkC0NmYrf1W9pERB0uifEGAXHu+33jbUv25mU6RshDO4S >> CCLaciaHcXql2/bSo/EgIgUK+5jDFpt2orh7ZqFR6z5o+eexQOrl/FSQtCnxL9sr >> B9gUw29hCFSIKVf1LA+CZZVREhJF3Refd0QfbzXF92Og8mYlT1ySFNtrdnXHgrMt >> uZ6+LPgbJpiqtqMgEj9s >> =9HtU >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago From thomas.j.johnson at gmail.com Thu Mar 6 18:36:36 2014 From: thomas.j.johnson at gmail.com (Thomas Johnson) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2014 11:36:36 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Python style question: class constants Message-ID: I posted this question at http://codereview.stackexchange.com/questions/43619/proper-use-of-class-constantsbut the people there apparently have fairly narrow definitions of "on-topic". I'm hoping someone here can lend some insight. Basically I have a bunch of classes like this scattered around different modules in my project: class MyObject: ABOVE = 1 BELOW = 2 def do_stuff(self, direction): if direction == self.ABOVE: # Do above stuff elif direction == self.BELOW: # Do below stuff If I have a bunch of different classes in different modules that each use their own ABOVE and BELOW, what's the best way to handle it? Should I extract these constants to their own class, maybe in its own module? Would creating a constants.py module be overkill? Should I keep the class constants within the classes, since ABOVE and BELOW might mean slightly different things in different classes? Is there a better / more pythonic solution to this design issue? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm hoping someone here can lend some insight. > > Basically I have a bunch of classes like this scattered around different > modules in my project: > > class MyObject: > ABOVE = 1 > BELOW = 2 > > def do_stuff(self, direction): > if direction == self.ABOVE: > # Do above stuff > elif direction == self.BELOW: > # Do below stuff > > > If I have a bunch of different classes in different modules that each use > their own ABOVE and BELOW, what's the best way to handle it? > > Should I extract these constants to their own class, maybe in its own > module? Would creating a constants.py module be overkill? > > Should I keep the class constants within the classes, since ABOVE and > BELOW might mean slightly different things in different classes? > > Is there a better / more pythonic solution to this design issue? > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bob.haugen at gmail.com Fri Mar 7 16:33:44 2014 From: bob.haugen at gmail.com (Bob Haugen) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 09:33:44 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] How to see the whole exception message in pdb Message-ID: When I get an exception in pdb, it is truncated to the point where I can't understand it. I googled for ways to see it (sys.exc_info(), sys.last_value, etc.), and have tried all suggestions, but have not found anything that works yet. I am sure this is due to my ignorance, and missing something. Will be grateful for any tips. Thanks. From brianhray at gmail.com Fri Mar 7 16:52:36 2014 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 09:52:36 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] How to see the whole exception message in pdb In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My first suggestion is debug with ipython. I think you can insert breakpoints like: import ipdb; ipdb,set_trace(); after you pip install ipdb. That will make the whole world pretty and colorful. Second, I have there are so many ways to print a stack in Python @@ I once complained about this along with handing of dates/times in Python. I stopped complaining once I realized there are reasons things are complicated--complicated, is not the right word. The reality stack traces, like date/times, are pretty complex. So my second tip is to explore some tools. 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You might be surprised at the result. - *Simple Websockets in Flask* (0:20:00 Minutes) By: Daniel Hodges Using flask, websockets, and redis to make a simple multi-user drawing surface in D3. The Venue will be Deloitte at 111 S Wacker Dr. Food and drink provided. RSVP here -> http://chipy.org --BR -- Brian Ray @brianray (773) 669-7717 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jbcurtinnews at gmail.com Fri Mar 7 20:31:11 2014 From: jbcurtinnews at gmail.com (Joseph Curtin) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 13:31:11 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Talks for next Thursday In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Possibly the best chipy ever? On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > RSVP here -> http://chipy.org > > Dr. Mark V. Albert ( > http://www.luc.edu/cs/people/ftfaculty/albertmarkv.shtml) will be > presenting on how Loyola CS students have been using Python in the lab for > machine learning. He will be entering his talk in the system shortly. > > Also already on the schedule: > > > - *Starting Over From Scratch* > (0:25:00 Minutes) > By: Malcolm Newsome > Often developers get too attached to the code that they write. So > much so that we dread losing it. But, what happens when you intentionally > delete code and rewrite it? You might be surprised at the result. > - *Simple Websockets in Flask* > (0:20:00 Minutes) > By: Daniel Hodges > Using flask, websockets, and redis to make a simple multi-user drawing > surface in D3. > > > The Venue will be Deloitte at 111 S Wacker Dr. Food and drink provided. > > > RSVP here -> http://chipy.org > > --BR > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -- -Joseph Curtin http://www.jbcurtin.com github @jbcurtin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The past is the past and each meeting is meant to be a building block for continuous learning and expanding our minds and network. All have done so much to build this up so keep building. Best meeting ever coming up ;-)!!!!! Cheers and here's to Chicago's 30 degrees now feels like the new 60 degrees. Have a great weekend Paul President v 708-479-1111 c 312-925-1294 Paul May & Associates, Inc. (PMA) paul at paulmayassociates.com link up http://www.linkedin.com/in/paulmayassociates like us on http://www.facebook.com/paulmayassociates Search over 100 real jobs www.paulmayassociates.com Note:- If you do not wish to receive emails from Paul May & Associates, please send an email to remove at paulmayassociates.com and put REMOVE in the Subject line. ----- Original Message ----- To: The Chicago Python Users Group From: Brian Ray Sent: 3/7/2014 2:28:16 PM Subject: Re: [Chicago] Talks for next Thursday On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Joseph Curtin wrote: Possibly the best chipy ever? 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URL: From wirth.jason at gmail.com Sat Mar 8 02:48:37 2014 From: wirth.jason at gmail.com (Jason Wirth) Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 10:48:37 +0900 Subject: [Chicago] Shot out to Braintree Message-ID: Came across this article on HN about Braintree giving start ups free $50k in processing. https://www.braintreepayments.com/blog/ignition-first-50k-on-us They've been a good friend to Chipy and the community of developers at large so I just wanted to give a shit out to say thanks! -- -- Jason Wirth 213.675.5294 wirth.jason at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave.niesman at ieee.org Sat Mar 8 02:54:07 2014 From: dave.niesman at ieee.org (Dave Niesman) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 19:54:07 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Shot out to Braintree In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Between shot and shit, don't you like them? (Mobile keyboard fun?) On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 7:48 PM, Jason Wirth wrote: > Came across this article on HN about Braintree giving start ups free $50k > in processing. > > https://www.braintreepayments.com/blog/ignition-first-50k-on-us > > They've been a good friend to Chipy and the community of developers at > large so I just wanted to give a shit out to say thanks! > > > > > -- > > -- > Jason Wirth > 213.675.5294 > wirth.jason at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From adam at adamforsyth.net Sat Mar 8 02:51:02 2014 From: adam at adamforsyth.net (Adam Forsyth) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 19:51:02 -0600 Subject: [Chicago] Shot out to Braintree In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm going to assume you meant shout out not shit out :) We're really glad we can do it. If anyone has questions, I'm available to answer. On Mar 7, 2014 7:48 PM, "Jason Wirth" wrote: > Came across this article on HN about Braintree giving start ups free $50k > in processing. > > https://www.braintreepayments.com/blog/ignition-first-50k-on-us > > They've been a good friend to Chipy and the community of developers at > large so I just wanted to give a shit out to say thanks! > > > > > -- > > -- > Jason Wirth > 213.675.5294 > wirth.jason at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wirth.jason at gmail.com Sat Mar 8 02:55:34 2014 From: wirth.jason at gmail.com (Jason Wirth) Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 10:55:34 +0900 Subject: [Chicago] Shot out to Braintree In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Damn iPhone! Le sigh... On Saturday, March 8, 2014, Dave Niesman wrote: > Between shot and shit, don't you like them? > > (Mobile keyboard fun?) > > > On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 7:48 PM, Jason Wirth > > wrote: > >> Came across this article on HN about Braintree giving start ups free $50k >> in processing. >> >> https://www.braintreepayments.com/blog/ignition-first-50k-on-us >> >> They've been a good friend to Chipy and the community of developers at >> large so I just wanted to give a shit out to say thanks! >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> -- >> Jason Wirth >> 213.675.5294 >> wirth.jason at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > -- -- Jason Wirth 213.675.5294 wirth.jason at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 7:48 PM, Jason Wirth wrote: Came across this article on HN about Braintree giving start ups free $50k in processing. https://www.braintreepayments.com/blog/ignition-first-50k-on-us They've been a good friend to Chipy and the community of developers at large so I just wanted to give a shit out to say thanks! -- -- Jason Wirth 213.675.5294 wirth.jason at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Chicago mailing list Chicago at python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago _______________________________________________ Chicago mailing list Chicago at python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brianhray at gmail.com Sun Mar 9 18:19:09 2014 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 12:19:09 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Important updates from ChiPy Message-ID: Some important updates from the ChiPy leadership: A) Our approved Code of Conduct may be found here: http://www.chipy.org/pages/conduct/ B) Here are the new rules for becoming a ChiPy Organizer: > Any two of the following: > > - You're an active Python developer with at least one public available > example of work > > > - You have attended at least 6 ChiPy meetings in the last 12 months. > > > - You were responsible for securing a sponsor for location, > refreshments, A/V services or any other significant grant in the last 12 > months > > > - You were responsible for matching an existing ChiPy member with a > job or contract for which ChiPy has received a referral fee in the last 12 > months > > > - You have made 6 or more significant improvements to any chicago > python managed codebase in the last 12 months. > > And: > > - You live in the greater Chicago land area and plan on staying here > for the next 12 months > > > - You plan on attending the meeting every week, missing no more than 2 > a month. > > > Quarum Rule: 50% or greater of names on calendar must be on call. It's ok > to review those names when there is less then 50% before counting. If you fit these rules and you want to join, send me your email address you want to use. We will send you an invite to the weekly meeting that occurs every sunday 11am-noon. We will review your qualifications when you join the call. Please join 15min early the first time. C) Our monthly meeting this week will be the best ever. RSVP here -> http://chipy.org -- Brian Ray @brianray (773) 669-7717 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wirth.jason at gmail.com Sun Mar 9 19:39:35 2014 From: wirth.jason at gmail.com (Jason Wirth) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 03:39:35 +0900 Subject: [Chicago] Learn you some Linux Message-ID: FYI, there's an upcoming Intro to Linux course being offered on EdX. This could be useful for anyone coming from a Windows environment. Also Yarko have a talk a while back about the use of Django in the EdX tool kit. http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/03/2400-introduction-to-linux-course-will-be-free-and-online-this-summer/ -- -- Jason Wirth 213.675.5294 wirth.jason at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pete at wearpants.org Sun Mar 9 20:44:48 2014 From: pete at wearpants.org (Peter Fein) Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 14:44:48 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Important updates from ChiPy Message-ID: On Mar 9, 2014 12:23 PM, "Brian Ray" wrote: >> You were responsible for matching an existing ChiPy member with a job or contract for which ChiPy has received a referral fee in the last 12 months Some questions about this: * how many people were matched like this in the last year (ballpark)? * where are the candidates coming from? I.e., how do you know who's looking, where are resumes submitted, etc. * how much is the referral fee? Typical for a recruiter would be ~3 months salary. * there have been few job postings approved to the list - how do interested people find out about openings? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From MDiPierro at cs.depaul.edu Mon Mar 10 01:01:13 2014 From: MDiPierro at cs.depaul.edu (DiPierro, Massimo) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 00:01:13 +0000 Subject: [Chicago] web2py conference Message-ID: Hello Chipy, The first web2py conference was announced 5 days ago but it is already full and we have enough speakers to fill the cover 8 hours. We will continue to accept registration and talk proposals but they will be put in a waiting list pending cancellations and the ability to find a larger room. Pending registrations will be approved in the order they are received. The program will be posted in 1-2 weeks. Massimo For more info: http://www.experts4solutions.com/web2py_conference/default/index From paul at paulmayassociates.com Mon Mar 10 23:39:57 2014 From: paul at paulmayassociates.com (Paul May) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 22:39:57 -0000 Subject: [Chicago] Python Architect for the Chicago land area Message-ID: <503617713638238@198.154.215.62:26> Hey Hey Chipy, This role is right here in the Chicago area. Pays very handsomely. WHOOOO does anyone know that might fit this role or do You fit this role? Please send me a resume / email or call me to discuss this role. This role, if filled by Chipy would consitute a referral fee to Chipy ;-). Python Architect - full time Location - Deerfield, IL 60015 Salary commensurate with experience Python Architect ? Assist staff with developing an "as-built" suite of architecture documentation for the Solution. Identify gaps or issues with the technology stack and suggest improvements. ? Design and architect modifications to the overall systems architecture to improve the system reliability and performance. ? Write server-side code for web-applications, create high-volume production applications, and develop prototypes quickly. ? Work with Web Services and the development of software application and features. ? Design, develop, code, test, implementation and support of all phases of the software development lifecycle using Python. ? Work collaboratively with other internal development teams, Product teams and QA teams on the design and integration of new software and features. Requirements: ? Minimum of 10 years of solid server side web-application software development experience in Python ? Understanding of object oriented concepts, using formal development methods. (Experience with agile/test driven methodologies a plus) ? Experience with SQL ? Develop robust, secure, complex, scalable, high volume, commercial-grade web applications ? Financial and business workflow development experience ? Expertise with all phases of the software development lifecycle, including requirements analysis, design, coding, testing, implementation, and support ? Work in a collaborative team environment ? Excellent verbal and written skills Desired Experience: ? Behavior Driven Development ? Architecture and systems development ? Experience with PostgreSQL or SQLAlchemy database programming ? Application development experience using Linux, Apache, Django, Webware, SQLObject, Reportlab technologies ? Business Process focused systems is a plus Click here to apply online Thanks, Paul President v 708-479-1111 c 312-925-1294 Paul May & Associates, Inc. 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URL: From paul at paulmayassociates.com Mon Mar 10 23:43:38 2014 From: paul at paulmayassociates.com (Paul May) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 22:43:38 -0000 Subject: [Chicago] From PMA - Position: Python Web Developer Message-ID: <178132511644455@198.154.215.62:26> Hey Hey Chipy, Another Python role right here in our Chicago Land area. Another role that would be a Chipy referral fee contenders ;-). Who do you know or is this role for you??? Call me , send an email or shoot me a resume. Python Web Developer, Deerfield Illinois 60015 This is a full time perm role. Salary commensurate with experience. Ideally someone who has Python, good experience with SQL, and able to do front end and back end development (Python, HTML, CSS, jQuery, javascript). If they have had primarily Java / .NET and open to learning Python. that's a possible. Python Web Developer The Company is the recognized leader building web-based software (SaaS) for the Construction industry. We have over 75,000 end users and expanding internationally! As a Python Developer, you will develop the next-generation of the company's proprietary software and have the unique opportunity to directly impact The Company's business results. The Company is the leading provider of collaboration and productivity tools for the construction industry. Our solutions serve owners, architects, general contractors and subcontractors across the project lifecycle - from design and pre-qualification to bid management, submittals and payment - on a single, integrated platform. The Company's collaboration platform and online product suite represent the first time the industry has all the tools needed to manage their business in an integrated fashion to save time and money and reduce exposure to risks. CNN Headline News said our CPM application may be "the most sophisticated business-to-business Internet-based application in the world." With award winning SaaS technology, world-class customer support and 100% growth year-after-year, The Company's is leading the construction industry's technology transformation. Responsibilities: ? Write server-side code for web-applications, create high-volume production applications, and develop prototypes quickly. ? Work with Web Services and the development of software application and features. ? Design, develop, code, test, implementation and support of all phases of the software development lifecycle using Python. ? Work collaboratively with other internal development teams, Product teams and QA teams on the design and integration of new software and features. Requirements: Python, good experience with SQL, and able to do front end and back end development (Python, HTML, CSS, jQuery, javascript). If they have had primarily Java / .NET and open to learning Python. that's a possible. ? A minimum of 3 years of GUI or server side web-application Python software development experience. ? Understanding of object oriented concepts, using formal development methods. (Experience with agile/test driven methodologies a plus). ? Developing robust, secure, complex, scalable, high volume, commercial-grade web applications. ? Some database programming with PostgreSQL or SQLAlchemy. ? Financial and business workflow development experience. ? Expertise with all phases of the software development lifecycle, including requirements analysis, design, coding, testing, implementation, and support. ? Working in a collaborative team environment; Verbal and written skills. Desired Experience: ? Behavior Driven Development ? Architecture and systems development ? Application development experience using Linux, Apache, Webware, SQLObject, Reportlab technologies ? Business Process focused systems is a plus Salary is commensurate with experience. Company will not provide sponsorship or relocation for positions. Click here to apply online Thanks, Paul President v 708-479-1111 c 312-925-1294 Paul May & Associates, Inc. (PMA) paul at paulmayassociates.com link up http://www.linkedin.com/in/paulmayassociates like us on http://www.facebook.com/paulmayassociates Search over 100 real jobs www.paulmayassociates.com (The following links were included with this email:) http://www.pcrecruiter.net/pcrbin/apply.asp?r=dUA3ysjj2lMxuQjz8KI0Biywha7KliTNkjcl5ze3xwrqFs5XggsRqomNZkGLmfwCQwty68I%3d mailto:paul at paulmayassociates.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/paulmayassociates http://www.facebook.com/paulmayassociates http://www.paulmayassociates.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We will > continue to accept registration and talk proposals but they will be put in > a waiting list pending cancellations and the ability to find a larger room. > Pending registrations will be approved in the order they are received. > > > The program will be posted in 1-2 weeks. > > > Massimo > > > For more info: > > http://www.experts4solutions.com/web2py_conference/default/index > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From japhy at pearachute.com Tue Mar 11 17:07:11 2014 From: japhy at pearachute.com (Japhy Bartlett) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 11:07:11 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Python Architect for the Chicago land area In-Reply-To: <531e3f52.c82d0f0a.41ec.ffffa543SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com> References: <531e3f52.c82d0f0a.41ec.ffffa543SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com> Message-ID: I think I am more open to recruiter emails than some people on this list, but if Deerfield is "Chicago Area" then so is Indiana, and we know; Textura is hiring, still. Always. Could we make them some sort of permanent sponsor and move on? Pining for the days of sticky posts, Japhy On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Paul May wrote: > Hey Hey Chipy, This role is right here in the Chicago area. > > Pays very handsomely. > > WHOOOO does anyone know that might fit this role or do You fit this role? > > Please send me a resume / email or call me to discuss this role. > > This role, if filled by Chipy would consitute a referral fee to Chipy ;-). > > > *Python Architect - full time* > > *Location - Deerfield, IL 60015* > > *Salary commensurate with experience* > > > *Python Architect* > > ? Assist staff with developing an "as-built" suite of > architecture documentation for the Solution. Identify gaps or issues with > the technology stack and suggest improvements. > > ? Design and architect modifications to the overall systems > architecture to improve the system reliability and performance. > > ? Write server-side code for web-applications, create high-volume > production applications, and develop prototypes quickly. > > ? Work with Web Services and the development of software > application and features. > > ? Design, develop, code, test, implementation and support of all > phases of the software development lifecycle using Python. > > ? Work collaboratively with other internal development teams, > Product teams and QA teams on the design and integration of new software > and features. > > *Requirements:* > > ? Minimum of 10 years of solid server side web-application > software development experience in Python > > ? Understanding of object oriented concepts, using formal > development methods. (Experience with agile/test driven methodologies a > plus) > > ? Experience with SQL > > ? Develop robust, secure, complex, scalable, high volume, > commercial-grade web applications > > ? Financial and business workflow development experience > > ? Expertise with all phases of the software development > lifecycle, including requirements analysis, design, coding, testing, > implementation, and support > > ? Work in a collaborative team environment > > ? Excellent verbal and written skills > > > > *Desired Experience:* > > > > ? Behavior Driven Development > > ? Architecture and systems development > > ? Experience with PostgreSQL or SQLAlchemy database programming > > ? Application development experience using Linux, Apache, Django, > Webware, SQLObject, Reportlab technologies > > ? Business Process focused systems is a plus > > > > Click here to apply online > > Thanks, > > *Paul* > > *President* > > *v 708-479-1111 <708-479-1111>* > > *c 312-925-1294 <312-925-1294>* > > *Paul May & Associates, Inc. (PMA)* > > paul at paulmayassociates.com > > link up http://www.linkedin.com/in/paulmayassociates > > like us on http://www.facebook.com/paulmayassociates > > Search over 100 real jobs www.paulmayassociates.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From emperorcezar at gmail.com Tue Mar 11 17:52:05 2014 From: emperorcezar at gmail.com (Cezar Jenkins) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 11:52:05 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Recruiters for non-Chicago jobs Message-ID: Did we ever decide this? I have an email sitting the the queue for "Fulltime/Permanent Job :: Python Expert :: NY - 10003" --? Cezar Jenkins @emperorcezar -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jordanb at hafd.org Tue Mar 11 17:59:58 2014 From: jordanb at hafd.org (Jordan Bettis) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 11:59:58 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Python Architect for the Chicago land area In-Reply-To: References: <531e3f52.c82d0f0a.41ec.ffffa543SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <531F410E.6030504@hafd.org> On 03/11/2014 11:07 AM, Japhy Bartlett wrote: > I think I am more open to recruiter emails than some people on this > list, but if Deerfield is "Chicago Area" then so is Indiana, and we > know; Textura is hiring, still. Always. Could we make them some sort > of permanent sponsor and move on? > > Pining for the days of sticky posts, > HAH! Maybe Paul could post whenever Textura is *not* hiring. From paul at paulmayassociates.com Tue Mar 11 18:01:46 2014 From: paul at paulmayassociates.com (Paul May) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 17:01:46 -0000 Subject: [Chicago] Python Architect for the Chicago land area Message-ID: <452839689745201@198.154.215.62:26> ;-) Good one, Paul ----- Original Message ----- To: chicago at python.org From: Jordan Bettis Sent: 3/11/2014 11:59:58 AM Subject: Re: [Chicago] Python Architect for the Chicago land area On 03/11/2014 11:07 AM, Japhy Bartlett wrote: > I think I am more open to recruiter emails than some people on this > list, but if Deerfield is "Chicago Area" then so is Indiana, and we > know; Textura is hiring, still. Always. Could we make them some sort > of permanent sponsor and move on? > > Pining for the days of sticky posts, > HAH! Maybe Paul could post whenever Textura is *not* hiring. _______________________________________________ Chicago mailing list Chicago at python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From emperorcezar at gmail.com Tue Mar 11 18:01:52 2014 From: emperorcezar at gmail.com (Cezar Jenkins) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 12:01:52 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Python Architect for the Chicago land area In-Reply-To: References: <531e3f52.c82d0f0a.41ec.ffffa543SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Just throwing this out there, in case someone from Textura is listening. I think they have a hard time filling positions because they require a commute to Deerfield. --? Cezar Jenkins @emperorcezar From:?Japhy Bartlett japhy at pearachute.com Reply:?The Chicago Python Users Group chicago at python.org Date:?March 11, 2014 at 11:35:56 AM To:?The Chicago Python Users Group chicago at python.org Subject:? Re: [Chicago] Python Architect for the Chicago land area I think I am more open to recruiter emails than some people on this list, but if Deerfield is "Chicago Area" then so is Indiana, and we know; ?Textura is hiring, still. ?Always. ?Could we make them some sort of permanent sponsor and move on? Pining for the days of sticky posts, Japhy On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Paul May wrote: ?Hey Hey Chipy, This role is right here in the Chicago area. Pays very handsomely. WHOOOO does anyone know that might fit this role or do You fit this role? Please send me a resume / email or call me to discuss this role. This role, if filled by Chipy would consitute a referral fee to Chipy ;-). Python Architect - full time Location - Deerfield, IL 60015 Salary commensurate with experience Python Architect ????????? Assist staff with developing an "as-built" suite of architecture documentation for the?Solution. Identify gaps or issues with the technology stack and suggest improvements. ????????? Design and architect modifications to the overall systems architecture to improve the system reliability and performance. ????????? Write server-side code for web-applications, create high-volume production applications, and develop prototypes quickly. ????????? Work with Web Services and the development of software application and features. ????????? Design, develop, code, test, implementation and support of all phases of the software development lifecycle using Python. ????????? Work collaboratively with other internal development teams, Product teams and QA teams on the design and integration of new software and features. Requirements: ????????? Minimum of 10 years of solid server side web-application software development experience in Python ????????? Understanding of object oriented concepts, using formal development methods. (Experience with agile/test driven methodologies a plus) ????????? Experience with SQL ????????? Develop robust, secure, complex, scalable, high volume, commercial-grade web applications ????????? Financial and business workflow development experience ????????? Expertise with all phases of the software development lifecycle, including requirements analysis, design, coding, testing, implementation, and support ????????? Work in a collaborative team environment ????????? Excellent verbal and written skills ? Desired Experience: ? ????????? Behavior Driven Development ????????? Architecture and systems development ????????? Experience with PostgreSQL or SQLAlchemy database programming ????????? Application development experience using Linux, Apache, Django, Webware, SQLObject, Reportlab technologies ????????? Business Process focused systems is a plus Click here to apply online Thanks, Paul President v 708-479-1111 c 312-925-1294 Paul May & Associates, Inc. (PMA) paul at paulmayassociates.com link up http://www.linkedin.com/in/paulmayassociates like us on http://www.facebook.com/paulmayassociates Search over 100 real jobs www.paulmayassociates.com _______________________________________________ Chicago mailing list Chicago at python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago _______________________________________________ Chicago mailing list Chicago at python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brianhray at gmail.com Tue Mar 11 18:52:22 2014 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 12:52:22 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Recruiters for non-Chicago jobs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Cezar, My rule is no job postings outside of Chicago because it's just the wrong email list to use. The board has this as an action item to review, but until then my rule stands. On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Cezar Jenkins wrote: > Did we ever decide this? I have an email sitting the the queue for "Fulltime/Permanent > Job :: Python Expert :: NY - 10003" > > -- > Cezar Jenkins > @emperorcezar > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -- Brian Ray @brianray (773) 669-7717 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skip at pobox.com Tue Mar 11 18:54:45 2014 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 12:54:45 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Recruiters for non-Chicago jobs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > My rule is no job postings outside of Chicago because it's just the wrong > email list to use. +1. Also, once the kinks are worked out of the new jobs board, I think you should consider disallowing any job postings, even for positions in Chicago. If I understand things correctly, people will be able to filter by location. Skip From emperorcezar at gmail.com Tue Mar 11 18:54:51 2014 From: emperorcezar at gmail.com (Cezar Jenkins) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 12:54:51 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Recruiters for non-Chicago jobs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Never liked New York anyway. <3 --? Cezar Jenkins @emperorcezar From:?Brian Ray brianhray at gmail.com Reply:?The Chicago Python Users Group chicago at python.org Date:?March 11, 2014 at 12:52:49 PM To:?The Chicago Python Users Group chicago at python.org Subject:? Re: [Chicago] Recruiters for non-Chicago jobs Cezar, My rule is no job postings outside of Chicago because it's just the wrong email list to use. The board has this as an action item to review, but until then my rule stands. On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Cezar Jenkins wrote: Did we ever decide this? I have an email sitting the the queue for "Fulltime/Permanent Job :: Python Expert :: NY - 10003" --? Cezar Jenkins @emperorcezar _______________________________________________ Chicago mailing list Chicago at python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -- Brian Ray? @brianray (773) 669-7717 _______________________________________________ Chicago mailing list Chicago at python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brianhray at gmail.com Tue Mar 11 19:20:59 2014 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 13:20:59 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Thursday ChiPy Message-ID: Any additional talks for Thursday? Lightening and introductory talks are welcome. -- Brian Ray @brianray (773) 669-7717 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephen_maroda at centerpointrecruiting.com Tue Mar 11 19:07:04 2014 From: stephen_maroda at centerpointrecruiting.com (Stephen Maroda) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 18:07:04 +0000 Subject: [Chicago] Recruiters for non-Chicago jobs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <75700EB3D182254483A21880B7B345A5CE867C31@oasslcexm03.oaifield.onasgn.com> As a national recruiter I must say it doesn?t make sense to post out of state jobs. There are other user groups nationally. In my experience CHiPY is a great group with a lot of intelligent and skilled users that are very active in the local community. But there are others in CA and NY for example that are decent although nowhere near as active or skilled. I would recommend that people only be contacted for out of state jobs privately. Stephen __________________________________ Stephen Maroda Senior Recruiting Specialist Centerpoint a division of Oxford Global Resources San Tan Corporate Center II 3100 W. Ray Road, Suite #200 Chandler, AZ 85226 855.589.8248 Office 480.729.8639 Direct 480.978.9771 FAX stephen_maroda at centerpointrecruiting.com www.oxfordcorp.com Oxford Europe NYSE: ASGN The Right Talent. Right Now.? From: Chicago [mailto:chicago-bounces+stephen_maroda=centerpointrecruiting.com at python.org] On Behalf Of Cezar Jenkins Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 10:55 AM To: Brian Ray; The Chicago Python Users Group Subject: Re: [Chicago] Recruiters for non-Chicago jobs Never liked New York anyway. <3 -- Cezar Jenkins @emperorcezar From: Brian Ray brianhray at gmail.com Reply: The Chicago Python Users Group chicago at python.org Date: March 11, 2014 at 12:52:49 PM To: The Chicago Python Users Group chicago at python.org Subject: Re: [Chicago] Recruiters for non-Chicago jobs Cezar, My rule is no job postings outside of Chicago because it's just the wrong email list to use. The board has this as an action item to review, but until then my rule stands. On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Cezar Jenkins > wrote: Did we ever decide this? I have an email sitting the the queue for "Fulltime/Permanent Job :: Python Expert :: NY - 10003" -- Cezar Jenkins @emperorcezar _______________________________________________ Chicago mailing list Chicago at python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -- Brian Ray @brianray (773) 669-7717 _______________________________________________ Chicago mailing list Chicago at python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago The information transmitted, including attachments, is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. 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There will be quite a few R folks from the Deloitte and Loyola side in the audience. -- Brian Ray @brianray (773) 669-7717 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dinaldo at gmail.com Tue Mar 11 23:26:41 2014 From: dinaldo at gmail.com (Don Sheu) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 15:26:41 -0700 Subject: [Chicago] Recruiters for non-Chicago jobs In-Reply-To: <75700EB3D182254483A21880B7B345A5CE867C31@oasslcexm03.oaifield.onasgn.com> References: <75700EB3D182254483A21880B7B345A5CE867C31@oasslcexm03.oaifield.onasgn.com> Message-ID: For PyCon Startup Row I've signed-up for a lot of Python user group lists. I've found the ban against out of area job postings is prevalent On Tuesday, March 11, 2014, Stephen Maroda < stephen_maroda at centerpointrecruiting.com> wrote: > As a national recruiter I must say it *doesn't* make sense to post out > of state jobs. > > > > There are other user groups nationally. In my experience CHiPY is a great > group with a lot of intelligent and skilled users that are very active in > the local community. But there are others in CA and NY for example that are > decent although nowhere near as active or skilled. I would recommend that > people only be contacted for out of state jobs privately. > > > > Stephen > > > > __________________________________ > > *Stephen Maroda* > > *Senior Recruiting Specialist* > > *Centerpoint* > > a division of *Oxford Global Resources* > > San Tan Corporate Center II 3100 W. Ray Road, Suite #200 > > Chandler, AZ 85226 > > > > 855.589.8248 Office > > 480.729.8639 Direct > > 480.978.9771 FAX > > stephen_maroda at centerpointrecruiting.com > > > > www.oxfordcorp.com > > Oxford Europe > > NYSE: ASGN > > *The Right Talent. Right Now.(R)* > > > > > > > > > > *From:* Chicago [mailto:chicago-bounces+stephen_maroda > =centerpointrecruiting.com at python.org] > *On Behalf Of *Cezar Jenkins > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 11, 2014 10:55 AM > *To:* Brian Ray; The Chicago Python Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [Chicago] Recruiters for non-Chicago jobs > > > > Never liked New York anyway. <3 > > > > > > -- > Cezar Jenkins > > @emperorcezar > > > From: Brian Ray brianhray at gmail.com > Reply: The Chicago Python Users Group chicago at python.org > Date: March 11, 2014 at 12:52:49 PM > To: The Chicago Python Users Group chicago at python.org > Subject: Re: [Chicago] Recruiters for non-Chicago jobs > > > > Cezar, My rule is no job postings outside of Chicago because it's just > the wrong email list to use. The board has this as an action item to > review, but until then my rule stands. > > > > On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Cezar Jenkins > wrote: > > Did we ever decide this? 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There will be quite a few > R folks from the Deloitte and Loyola side in the audience. > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From yarkot1 at gmail.com Wed Mar 12 03:45:38 2014 From: yarkot1 at gmail.com (Yarko Tymciurak) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 21:45:38 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Thursday ChiPy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Talk would be great (or at minimal - o.k.) R itself is mathematically / functionally nice, architecturally an evil hack. I tried to put up a web services site for R functions and went down many "existing" paths before I came to hate it. You basically cannot separate a request from an instantiation, so this either really taxes server resources or limits what you can do. It looks to me like its stuck being a single user desktop app. Look at Pandas or Julia or other stuff, use it (as part of a non-desktop single user solution) only when you really, really have to. That was my experience with it - a mathematician's hack, a useful oddity - not a good component for systems; limited. YMMV. My opinions are my own. Regards, Yarko On Mar 11, 2014 9:07 PM, "Jared Nash" wrote: > +1 R for Python Programmers! > > > On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 4:11 PM, John Blischak wrote: >> >>> I could give a quick talk on Software Carpentryand the PyCon >>> workshops we are >>> offering at PyCon. ChiPy members attending PyCon may be interested in our >>> workshops on "How to teach programming to novices" and "R for Python >>> Programmers." Would this be appropriate for a lightening talk? >>> Alternatively I could just make a quick announcement. >>> >> >> I would love a lightening talk 5-10min on each. There will be quite a few >> R folks from the Deloitte and Loyola side in the audience. >> >> -- >> Brian Ray >> @brianray >> (773) 669-7717 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brianhray at gmail.com Wed Mar 12 17:42:18 2014 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 11:42:18 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] [ANN] ChiPy Tomorrow: Thurs March 13th, 2014 7pm at Deloitte Message-ID: RSVP -> http://www.chipy.org You are invited to the Chicago Python User Group's March meeting. We have a great line up and this will be our best meeting ever! Our group has recently been focusing on improving our diversity and our approach-ability. Embrace change, get involved, and make this the group you will want to attend every month. You do not need any prior Python or programming experience to attend this meeting. All are welcome to attend this free event. Deloitte's office is conveniently located in the loop and is very close to the train stations and public transit. Discounted parking (site written in Python) from SpotHero http://bit.ly/1gpQdbt Food and drink kindly provided by our sponsors, Deloitte. "Always One Step Ahead" Here is an interesting article on Deloitte's Cognitive Analytic(tm) group efforts http://bit.ly/1iACktM (side note: I am a lead on this team, yes we use Python extensively, you can also welcome some of my colleagues to this meeting) *When:* March 13, 2014, 7 p.m. *Where:* Deloitte 111 S Wacker 24th floor "Jackson Park" https://goo.gl/maps/wubwI This Month's Topics - *Use of Python for Machine Learning at Loyola * By: Dr. Mark V. Albert - *Starting Over From Scratch* (0:25:00 Minutes) By: Malcolm Newsome Often developers get too attached to the code that they write. So much so that we dread losing it. But, what happens when you intentionally delete code and rewrite it? You might be surprised at the result. - *Simple Websockets in Flask* (0:20:00 Minutes) By: Daniel Hodges Using flask, websockets, and redis to make a simple multi-user drawing surface in D3. - *lightening talk: How to teach programming to novices* (0:10:00 Minutes) By: John Blischak - *lightening talk: R for Python Programmers* By: John Blischak - *Networking and hands on Python help* -- Brian Ray @brianray (773) 669-7717 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brian at python.org Wed Mar 12 20:11:00 2014 From: brian at python.org (Brian Curtin) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 14:11:00 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] PyCon 2014 Warmup Talks - Wednesday March 26 Message-ID: Hi all, ThoughtWorks has offered to host a series of talks for some of our local folks heading up on stage at PyCon 2014 (https://us.pycon.org/2014/schedule/). At 7:00 PM on Wednesday March 26, we'll have four great talks to share. * Dave Beazley has a tutorial, "Generators: The Final Frontier" and a conference talk, "Discovering Python." (he'll present one of them) * Naomi Ceder has a conference talk, "Farewell and Welcome Home: Python in Two Genders" * Pete Fein has a conference talk, "Free Software, Free People" * Yarko Tymciurak has a lightning talk, "scrape: an interactive web scraping development environment using selenium" Food and drink are sponsored by Rackspace. If you have any dietary concerns, please let me know. Address: 200 E Randolph St, Chicago, IL 60601 Please RSVP at http://pycon2014warmup.eventbrite.com - if you don't want to sign up on there, let me know and I will include you on the list (building security needs a list of names). From randy7771026 at gmail.com Wed Mar 12 20:58:44 2014 From: randy7771026 at gmail.com (Randy Baxley) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 14:58:44 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] PyCon 2014 Warmup Talks - Wednesday March 26 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Fantastic. I just finished writing my first Python personal bus arrival program springing off Dave Beasley's talk from last year. I love Agile processes, Thoughtworks, Aon and am working on learning to love my code more per Yarko. Looking forward to hearing the others. Anyone that has not met me or wants to meet me better, , please introduce yourself at the best ever Chipy meeting or at Thoughtworks or feel free to email me personally to see if we can get together at another function or for a soft drink. On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Brian Curtin wrote: > Hi all, > > ThoughtWorks has offered to host a series of talks for some of our > local folks heading up on stage at PyCon 2014 > (https://us.pycon.org/2014/schedule/). At 7:00 PM on Wednesday March > 26, we'll have four great talks to share. > > * Dave Beazley has a tutorial, "Generators: The Final Frontier" and a > conference talk, "Discovering Python." (he'll present one of them) > > * Naomi Ceder has a conference talk, "Farewell and Welcome Home: > Python in Two Genders" > > * Pete Fein has a conference talk, "Free Software, Free People" > > * Yarko Tymciurak has a lightning talk, "scrape: an interactive web > scraping development environment using selenium" > > Food and drink are sponsored by Rackspace. If you have any dietary > concerns, please let me know. > > Address: 200 E Randolph St, Chicago, IL 60601 > > Please RSVP at http://pycon2014warmup.eventbrite.com - if you don't > want to sign up on there, let me know and I will include you on the > list (building security needs a list of names). > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brianhray at gmail.com Wed Mar 12 20:55:06 2014 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 14:55:06 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] PyCon 2014 Warmup Talks - Wednesday March 26 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Looks like fun. We use to do these (warm up talks) at ChiPy. BTW, who else is going to PyCon? If you're looking for a place to stay during the Sprints (April 14-17) we have rented a house and have 2 bedrooms left https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/531478. Ping me for details. There is also some talk about a social networking event at the "Mad Men" house on Friday night. Stay tuned. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jdblischak at gmail.com Wed Mar 12 21:42:28 2014 From: jdblischak at gmail.com (John Blischak) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 15:42:28 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Thursday ChiPy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: OK. But to clarify the topic I am going to present: I am going to introduce the Software Carpentry organization and discuss our mission trying to increase the programming abilities of scientists and engineers. I will also announce the workshops we are running in Montreal for PyCon. The workshops on "How to teach programming to novices" and "R for Python Programmers" are each a fully day of instruction, and I do not have the time to prepare a full talk to do justice to these big topics. Perhaps I can prepare something more substantial for a future ChiPy meeting. I predict my lightening talk plus questions will last 10 minutes at most. This is my first ChiPy talk. Do I need to submit my talk somewhere, or can I deliver the presentation from my personal laptop? Thanks, John On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 9:45 PM, Yarko Tymciurak wrote: > Talk would be great (or at minimal - o.k.) > > R itself is mathematically / functionally nice, architecturally an evil > hack. > > I tried to put up a web services site for R functions and went down many > "existing" paths before I came to hate it. You basically cannot separate a > request from an instantiation, so this either really taxes server resources > or limits what you can do. > > It looks to me like its stuck being a single user desktop app. > > Look at Pandas or Julia or other stuff, use it (as part of a non-desktop > single user solution) only when you really, really have to. > > That was my experience with it - a mathematician's hack, a useful oddity - > not a good component for systems; limited. > > YMMV. > > My opinions are my own. > > Regards, > Yarko > On Mar 11, 2014 9:07 PM, "Jared Nash" wrote: > >> +1 R for Python Programmers! >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Brian Ray wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 4:11 PM, John Blischak wrote: >>> >>>> I could give a quick talk on Software Carpentryand the PyCon >>>> workshops we >>>> are offering at PyCon. ChiPy members attending PyCon may be interested in >>>> our workshops on "How to teach programming to novices" and "R for Python >>>> Programmers." Would this be appropriate for a lightening talk? >>>> Alternatively I could just make a quick announcement. >>>> >>> >>> I would love a lightening talk 5-10min on each. There will be quite a >>> few R folks from the Deloitte and Loyola side in the audience. >>> >>> -- >>> Brian Ray >>> @brianray >>> (773) 669-7717 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brianhray at gmail.com Wed Mar 12 23:39:42 2014 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 17:39:42 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Thursday ChiPy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have already entered your talk because I wanted to get the schedule up. It's live http://chipy.org Future talks can be entered here: http://www.chipy.org/meetings/topics/propose but we must have a meeting to register it against. That may be a chipy.org feature request--to propose. It would also be nice to add the voting and what not as someone already suggested. I still like +1 See you tomorrow! This is going to be great. I am really happy how these things come together last minute... JIT compiled! Cheers, Brian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brianhray at gmail.com Wed Mar 12 23:48:36 2014 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 17:48:36 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Thursday ChiPy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 3:42 PM, John Blischak wrote: > > This is my first ChiPy talk. 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Looming for somewhere I could set up with a treadmill desks for the next 2-3 months > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From greg at baugues.com Thu Mar 13 15:53:02 2014 From: greg at baugues.com (Greg Baugues) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 09:53:02 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Coworking spaces In-Reply-To: <8DD5BBE1-95C0-4F4D-A16C-08EFF4B34492@openstack.org> References: <8DD5BBE1-95C0-4F4D-A16C-08EFF4B34492@openstack.org> Message-ID: Tonight I'm going to an open house for a new coworking space called Patchworks at 1511 N Milwaukee. 6pm. Super laid back folk. 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Super laid back folk. > > On Thursday, March 13, 2014, Margaret Callard > wrote: > >> I like this place: http://www.platformcoworking.com/ >> >> >> >> On Mar 13, 2014, at 8:19 AM, Randy Baxley wrote: >> >> Short term opportunity I really do not know but I have been coveting a >> space the city vacated directly beneath me that at a quick look the wiring >> would support about 40 users. >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Peter Fein wrote: >> >>> Anyone have suggestions on a nice & friendly coworking space? Looming >>> for somewhere I could set up with a treadmill desks for the next 2-3 months >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> >> > > -- > Greg Baugues > 312.952.6796 > baugues.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -- epton.org abe.epton.org (blog) @aepton -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Super laid back folk. >> >> On Thursday, March 13, 2014, Margaret Callard >> wrote: >> >>> I like this place: http://www.platformcoworking.com/ >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mar 13, 2014, at 8:19 AM, Randy Baxley >>> wrote: >>> >>> Short term opportunity I really do not know but I have been coveting a >>> space the city vacated directly beneath me that at a quick look the wiring >>> would support about 40 users. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Peter Fein wrote: >>> >>>> Anyone have suggestions on a nice & friendly coworking space? Looming >>>> for somewhere I could set up with a treadmill desks for the next 2-3 months >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chicago mailing list >>>> Chicago at python.org >>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Greg Baugues >> 312.952.6796 >> baugues.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > > > -- > epton.org > abe.epton.org (blog) > @aepton > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From japhy at pearachute.com Thu Mar 13 19:19:03 2014 From: japhy at pearachute.com (Japhy Bartlett) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 13:19:03 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Coworking spaces In-Reply-To: References: <8DD5BBE1-95C0-4F4D-A16C-08EFF4B34492@openstack.org> Message-ID: Marcy Capron (@marcymarcy) of Polymathic is finishing up a space in Humboldt Park. On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Randy Baxley wrote: > The south side goes forever or at least out to the horizon from the window > of our last meeting. > > I am guessing you know about Bluexxxx which was Cibola and is north of the > "real" south side in Pilsen. > > > On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Abraham Epton wrote: > >> I think I know before I even ask, but: anyone know any on the South Side? >> Besides South Side Hackerspace, which looks neat. >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Greg Baugues wrote: >> >>> Tonight I'm going to an open house for a new coworking space called >>> Patchworks at 1511 N Milwaukee. 6pm. Super laid back folk. >>> >>> On Thursday, March 13, 2014, Margaret Callard >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I like this place: http://www.platformcoworking.com/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mar 13, 2014, at 8:19 AM, Randy Baxley >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Short term opportunity I really do not know but I have been coveting a >>>> space the city vacated directly beneath me that at a quick look the wiring >>>> would support about 40 users. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Peter Fein wrote: >>>> >>>>> Anyone have suggestions on a nice & friendly coworking space? Looming >>>>> for somewhere I could set up with a treadmill desks for the next 2-3 months >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Chicago mailing list >>>>> Chicago at python.org >>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chicago mailing list >>>> Chicago at python.org >>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Greg Baugues >>> 312.952.6796 >>> baugues.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> epton.org >> abe.epton.org (blog) >> @aepton >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The installed Python version is 2.4.3 in Linux > and our admins are not willing to upgrade it due to other comparability > issues. > > The issue is related to reading XML file and convert it to a txt > file for further process. > > Here's the code example. > #read XML file and convert into text file for further process > from xml.dom.minidom import parse, parseString > dom=parse('/mnt/usr/Test.xml') > outf = open ('/mnt/usr/Test.txt','w') > attr_list = [ > 'col1', > 'col2', > 'col3', > 'col4' > ] > for row in dom.childNodes[0].getElementsByTagName('z:row'): > for attr in attr_list: > if attr in row.attributes.keys(): > outf.write(row.attributes[attr].value.encode("utf-8")+"\t") > else: outf.write("\t") > outf.write("\n") > outf.close() > > I didn't see any good example to do this. Please let me know your > suggestions. > > Thanks in Advance. > > Regards > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From yarkot1 at gmail.com Mon Mar 17 16:15:49 2014 From: yarkot1 at gmail.com (Yarko Tymciurak) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 10:15:49 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Need Python -2.4.3 help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Harry - Just for your reference, see - for example: http://isezen.com/2011/09/02/how-to-install-locally-python-on-linux-home-directory/ and http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7465445/how-to-install-python-modules-without-root-access For working out code in an area you're unfamiliar with, you might find the autocompletion, ability to save your session, and interactivity of http://bpython-interpreter.org/ helpful (its a shell for python). Also, when I _had_ to deal w/ xml, I've repeatedly gravitated to lxml - http://lxml.de/tutorial.html Regards, - Yarko On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 9:13 AM, Harry aman wrote: > Hi, > > I'm new to Python. The installed Python version is 2.4.3 in Linux > and our admins are not willing to upgrade it due to other comparability > issues. > > The issue is related to reading XML file and convert it to a txt > file for further process. > > Here's the code example. > #read XML file and convert into text file for further process > from xml.dom.minidom import parse, parseString > dom=parse('/mnt/usr/Test.xml') > outf = open ('/mnt/usr/Test.txt','w') > attr_list = [ > 'col1', > 'col2', > 'col3', > 'col4' > ] > for row in dom.childNodes[0].getElementsByTagName('z:row'): > for attr in attr_list: > if attr in row.attributes.keys(): > outf.write(row.attributes[attr].value.encode("utf-8")+"\t") > else: outf.write("\t") > outf.write("\n") > outf.close() > > I didn't see any good example to do this. Please let me know your > suggestions. > > Thanks in Advance. > > Regards > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jordanb at hafd.org Mon Mar 17 16:57:39 2014 From: jordanb at hafd.org (Jordan Bettis) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 10:57:39 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Need Python -2.4.3 help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <53271B73.3000706@hafd.org> You could use a version of lxml that supports 2.4.3 and then parse the XML with the ElementTree API http://lxml.de/tutorial.html On 03/17/2014 09:13 AM, Harry aman wrote: > Hi, > > I'm new to Python. The installed Python version is 2.4.3 in > Linux and our admins are not willing to upgrade it due to other > comparability issues. > > The issue is related to reading XML file and convert it to a > txt file for further process. > > Here's the code example. > #read XML file and convert into text file for further process > from xml.dom.minidom import parse, parseString > dom=parse('/mnt/usr/Test.xml') > outf = open ('/mnt/usr/Test.txt','w') > attr_list = [ > 'col1', > 'col2', > 'col3', > 'col4' > ] > for row in dom.childNodes[0].getElementsByTagName('z:row'): > for attr in attr_list: > if attr in row.attributes.keys(): > outf.write(row.attributes[attr].value.encode("utf-8")+"\t") > else: outf.write("\t") > outf.write("\n") > outf.close() > > I didn't see any good example to do this. Please let me know your > suggestions. > > Thanks in Advance. > > Regards > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > From dinaldo at gmail.com Mon Mar 17 19:16:24 2014 From: dinaldo at gmail.com (Don Sheu) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 11:16:24 -0700 Subject: [Chicago] Support a Chicago Woman Tech Founder Message-ID: Hi Everybody, as Github's and Julia Ann Horvath's story explodes, ChiPy as a community has an opportunity to turn a frown upside down. Already the ChiPy community has stepped forward to help Ariana Vargas who presented at my PyCon Startup Row event at Braintree HQ. Ariana was one of four minority and female entrepreneurs who made a pitch for help from Chicago's Python community. Three ChiPy members are hard at work preparing Ariana's vision for display at PyCon Montreal. In the meantime, Don Pogany who's been called the world's most awarded creative director is producing a video with a talented director of photography to tell Ariana's story and explain why her resource for cancer patients is important. He's also collaborating on messaging and branding with Ariana. But there remains some hard costs for the video production and for Ariana's last minute travel to Montreal to participate in Startup Row. Please contribute and show the entire US, ChiPy supports women in tech. http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/a-new-way-to-support-cancer-fighters?show_todos=true P.S. For Startup Row we have four companies with women founders and a Tindie another company has a female CTO. 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It's one less hurdle for her and her team. http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/a-new-way-to-support-cancer-fighters?show_todos=true Cheers, Paul President v 708-479-1111 c 312-925-1294 Paul May & Associates, Inc. (PMA) paul at paulmayassociates.com link up http://www.linkedin.com/in/paulmayassociates like us on http://www.facebook.com/paulmayassociates Search over 100 real jobs www.paulmayassociates.com Note:- If you do not wish to receive emails from Paul May & Associates, please send an email to remove at paulmayassociates.com and put REMOVE in the Subject line. ----- Original Message ----- To: chicago at python.org From: Don Sheu Sent: 3/17/2014 1:16:24 PM Subject: [Chicago] Support a Chicago Woman Tech Founder Hi Everybody, as Github's and Julia Ann Horvath's story explodes, ChiPy as a community has an opportunity to turn a frown upside down. Already the ChiPy community has stepped forward to help Ariana Vargas who presented at my PyCon Startup Row event at Braintree HQ. Ariana was one of four minority and female entrepreneurs who made a pitch for help from Chicago's Python community. Three ChiPy members are hard at work preparing Ariana's vision for display at PyCon Montreal. In the meantime, Don Pogany who's been called the world's most awarded creative director is producing a video with a talented director of photography to tell Ariana's story and explain why her resource for cancer patients is important. He's also collaborating on messaging and branding with Ariana. But there remains some hard costs for the video production and for Ariana's last minute travel to Montreal to participate in Startup Row. Please contribute and show the entire US, ChiPy supports women in tech. http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/a-new-way-to-support-cancer-fighters?show_todos=true P.S. For Startup Row we have four companies with women founders and a Tindie another company has a female CTO. 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The DevOpsy one would help me out ;) More info about GSoC: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/about_page And if you want to help me spread the word: print this out and hand it to your friends: http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/downloads/detail?name=GSoC2014Flyer.pdf&can=2&q=#makechanges -- Carl K -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dinaldo at gmail.com Wed Mar 19 05:07:45 2014 From: dinaldo at gmail.com (Don Sheu) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 21:07:45 -0700 Subject: [Chicago] Support a Chicago Woman Tech Founder In-Reply-To: <5327cc75.02ae440a.0f49.ffffcd58SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com> References: <5327cc75.02ae440a.0f49.ffffcd58SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <787C8C4B-1302-4672-9784-72DE14031A36@gmail.com> Awesome Paul. Anybody else going to step up? I like to use data and evidence for my discussions. On the issue of women in tech ChiPy ranking fairly even with Kim Jong-un and North Korea in terms of achievement of enlightenment. Here's something that'll get things cooking. Let's talk about the color of Brian Ray's underwear or who pays for beer at ChiPy meetings. Come on, at this point looks like Ariana will be Chicago's only representative to PyCon Startup Row from Chicago. She can only make it with support from ChiPy members on this crowd fund campaign. Say you're all for women in tech and you want to help cancer patients by contributing to Ariana's crowd fund campaign. > http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/a-new-way-to-support-cancer-fighters?show_todos=true > Cheers, > Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 17, 2014, at 9:32 PM, "Paul May" wrote: > > Don, Ariana, happy to help out and put forth $500.00. > > I know there are a number of others that could crowd fund for Arinaa and Crew and send her on her way. > > It's one less hurdle for her and her team. > > > http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/a-new-way-to-support-cancer-fighters?show_todos=true > Cheers, > > Paul > > President > > v 708-479-1111 > c 312-925-1294 > Paul May & Associates, Inc. (PMA) > paul at paulmayassociates.com > link up http://www.linkedin.com/in/paulmayassociates > like us on http://www.facebook.com/paulmayassociates > Search over 100 real jobs www.paulmayassociates.com > > Note:- If you do not wish to receive emails from Paul May & Associates, > please send an email to remove at paulmayassociates.com and put REMOVE in the Subject line. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > To: chicago at python.org > From: Don Sheu > Sent: 3/17/2014 1:16:24 PM > Subject: [Chicago] Support a Chicago Woman Tech Founder > > Hi Everybody, as Github's and Julia Ann Horvath's story explodes, ChiPy as a community has an opportunity to turn a frown upside down. > > Already the ChiPy community has stepped forward to help Ariana Vargas who presented at my PyCon Startup Row event at Braintree HQ. Ariana was one of four minority and female entrepreneurs who made a pitch for help from Chicago's Python community. Three ChiPy members are hard at work preparing Ariana's vision for display at PyCon Montreal. > > In the meantime, Don Pogany who's been called the world's most awarded creative director is producing a video with a talented director of photography to tell Ariana's story and explain why her resource for cancer patients is important. He's also collaborating on messaging and branding with Ariana. > > But there remains some hard costs for the video production and for Ariana's last minute travel to Montreal to participate in Startup Row. > > Please contribute and show the entire US, ChiPy supports women in tech. > > http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/a-new-way-to-support-cancer-fighters?show_todos=true > > P.S. For Startup Row we have four companies with women founders and a Tindie another company has a female CTO. 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Bring your own project or work on one of the suggested projects from the meetup description. http://www.meetup.com/ChicagoPythonistas/events/169433682/ RSVP at the Meetup page. If you have questions, post to the meetup page or organizers at cpw-staff at lists.openhatch.org Regards! -- sheila -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shekay at pobox.com Wed Mar 19 14:46:46 2014 From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 08:46:46 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Deadline March 21! Re: GSoC Python projects for 5k Message-ID: Hi all, Carl and I are mentors for TimVideos, and would be excited to have more students apply. TimVideos is the open source toolchain Carl and friends have been using to stream conferences and events like PyCon, LCA, ChiPy, FOSDEM and more. On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: > Open source software is changing the world and creating the future for the > 10th year in a row. > Want to help? > > If you are student, you can get $5k for working during the summer. > > But apply now! apps close in 3 days. > > Here is our flagship project: > > > http://www.reddit.com/r/opensource/comments/20pp4d/summer_of_code_supports_open_hardware_projects/ > > There are others, follow the links, feel free to ask me about them. The > DevOpsy one would help me out ;) > > More info about GSoC: > > > http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/about_page > > And if you want to help me spread the word: print this out and hand it to > your friends: > > > http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/downloads/detail?name=GSoC2014Flyer.pdf&can=2&q=#makechanges > > > -- > Carl K > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -- sheila -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brianhray at gmail.com Thu Mar 20 00:35:50 2014 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 18:35:50 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] I kinda like Anaconda... at least for now ;) Message-ID: I just used this for because I was frustrated with a ipython notebook install on RHEL on a 64-bit machine. Anaconda gave me these packages: http://docs.continuum.io/anaconda/index.html#documentation-for-scientific-data-analysis-packages-included-in-anaconda Anaconda Biopython BitArray Cubes Disco Gdata h5py HDF5 Imaging (PIL) lxml Matplotlib MPI4Py MPICH2 NetworkX NumExpr Numpy OpenCV Pandas PySAL PySam PyTables SciPy Scikit-Image Scikit-Learn Spyder Statsmodels SymPy Theano wiseRF (Pine) Documentation for Other Packages included in Anaconda Astropy Boto Cython DateUtil Distribute Docutils Erlang Flask Gevent Gevent-Websocket Gevent-Zeromq Googlecl Greenlet grin IPython Jinja2 Libevent Libpng LLVM MDP Meta MinGW MKL NLTK Nose Pip Ply Psutil Py Py2Cairo PycURL PyFlakes Pygments Pyparsing PyTest Python PyTZ PyYAML PyZMQ QT Redis-Py Requests Six Sphinx SQLAlchemy xlrd xlwt Out of curiosity, what do people think of this list. Any surprises? What is missing? Mind you it's for science ;) -- Brian Ray @brianray (773) 669-7717 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From geoffbrown at comcast.net Thu Mar 20 11:53:51 2014 From: geoffbrown at comcast.net (Geoff Brown) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 05:53:51 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] I kinda like Anaconda... at least for now ;) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <532AC8BF.5020605@comcast.net> Last year at Pycon I took the Machine Learning with Scikit-learn tutorial and it was basically a bootcamp for the Anaconda suite. Highly recommend that tutorial for anyone interested. Although we did use Ipython Notebook extensively throughout the class. So I guess if you're having trouble with that. . . less so. But it covered Scikit-learn, Scikit-Image, Matplotlib, Numpy and stuff I still don't understand. :) The Networkx package surprises me because I had never heard of it before. I wish I had known about it before I started my project, because I just reinvented a good portion of it. :( On 3/19/2014 6:35 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > I just used this for because I was frustrated with a ipython notebook > install on RHEL on a 64-bit machine. > > Anaconda gave me these packages: > > http://docs.continuum.io/anaconda/index.html#documentation-for-scientific-data-analysis-packages-included-in-anaconda > > > Anaconda > > Biopython > BitArray > Cubes > Disco > Gdata > h5py > HDF5 > Imaging (PIL) > lxml > Matplotlib > MPI4Py > MPICH2 > > NetworkX > NumExpr > Numpy > OpenCV > Pandas > PySAL > PySam > PyTables > SciPy > Scikit-Image > Scikit-Learn > Spyder > Statsmodels > SymPy > Theano > wiseRF (Pine) > > > Documentation for Other Packages included in Anaconda > > Astropy > Boto > Cython > DateUtil > Distribute > Docutils > Erlang > Flask > Gevent > Gevent-Websocket > Gevent-Zeromq > Googlecl > Greenlet > grin > IPython > Jinja2 > Libevent > Libpng > LLVM > MDP > Meta > MinGW > MKL > > NLTK > Nose > Pip > Ply > Psutil > Py > Py2Cairo > PycURL > PyFlakes > Pygments > Pyparsing > PyTest > Python > PyTZ > PyYAML > PyZMQ > QT > Redis-Py > Requests > Six > Sphinx > SQLAlchemy > xlrd > > xlwt > > > Out of curiosity, what do people think of this list. Any surprises? > What is missing? Mind you it's for science ;) > > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From choman at gmail.com Sat Mar 22 21:04:16 2014 From: choman at gmail.com (Chad Homan) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 15:04:16 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] bgerrors Message-ID: I am looking for a bit of assistance with a custom message box written in tkinter. I am getting the following error msg (most of the time there are multiple messages) bgerror failed to handle background error. Original error: invalid command name "136342620callit" Error in bgerror: can't invoke "toplevel" command: application has been destroyed Thanks in advance Together We Win! -- Chad - I AM MONAVIE Do You Know Your Life Score? Creating A More Meaningful Life Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll use Windows." Now they have two problems. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chicagomackay at gmail.com Sat Mar 22 21:15:44 2014 From: chicagomackay at gmail.com (Alex MacKay) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 15:15:44 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] bgerrors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <23A08BF2-9E5A-442C-8513-53A41EB7BBFF@gmail.com> I am looking for assistance. I joined Chipy a couple years ago. I have since not been able to keep up and I do not want the messages anymore. I no longer have id and password to disassociate from the group. Is their anyone that can help me "UNJOIN". Thanks for your assistance. On Mar 22, 2014, at 3:04 PM, Chad Homan wrote: > I am looking for a bit of assistance with a custom message box written in tkinter. > > I am getting the following error msg (most of the time there are multiple messages) > > bgerror failed to handle background error. > Original error: invalid command name "136342620callit" > Error in bgerror: can't invoke "toplevel" command: application has been destroyed > > > Thanks in advance > > Together We Win! > -- > Chad - I AM MONAVIE > Do You Know Your Life Score? > Creating A More Meaningful Life > > Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll use Windows." > Now they have two problems. > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Alex MacKay wrote: > I am looking for assistance. > I joined Chipy a couple years ago. > I have since not been able to keep up and I do not want the messages > anymore. > I no longer have id and password to disassociate from the group. > Is their anyone that can help me "UNJOIN". > Thanks for your assistance. > > > On Mar 22, 2014, at 3:04 PM, Chad Homan wrote: > > I am looking for a bit of assistance with a custom message box written in > tkinter. > > I am getting the following error msg (most of the time there are multiple > messages) > > bgerror failed to handle background error. > Original error: invalid command name "136342620callit" > Error in bgerror: can't invoke "toplevel" command: application has > been destroyed > > > Thanks in advance > > Together We Win! > -- > Chad - I AM MONAVIE > Do You Know Your Life Score? > Creating A More Meaningful Life > > Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll use > Windows." > Now they have two problems. > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Chad Homan wrote: > I am looking for a bit of assistance with a custom message box written in > tkinter. > > I am getting the following error msg (most of the time there are multiple > messages) > > bgerror failed to handle background error. > Original error: invalid command name "136342620callit" > Error in bgerror: can't invoke "toplevel" command: application has > been destroyed > > > Thanks in advance > > Together We Win! > -- > Chad - I AM MONAVIE > Do You Know Your Life Score? > Creating A More Meaningful Life > > Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll use > Windows." > Now they have two problems. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On 03/22/2014 03:15 PM, Alex MacKay wrote: > I am looking for assistance. > I joined Chipy a couple years ago. > I have since not been able to keep up and I do not want the messages > anymore. > I no longer have id and password to disassociate from the group. > Is their anyone that can help me "UNJOIN". > Thanks for your assistance. > > > On Mar 22, 2014, at 3:04 PM, Chad Homan wrote: > >> I am looking for a bit of assistance with a custom message box written >> in tkinter. >> >> I am getting the following error msg (most of the time there are >> multiple messages) >> >> bgerror failed to handle background error. >> Original error: invalid command name "136342620callit" >> Error in bgerror: can't invoke "toplevel" command: application >> has been destroyed >> >> >> Thanks in advance >> >> Together We Win! >> -- >> Chad - I AM MONAVIE >> Do You Know Your Life Score? >> Creating A More Meaningful Life >> >> Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll use >> Windows." >> Now they have two problems. >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago From royazuniga at gmail.com Sun Mar 23 07:21:31 2014 From: royazuniga at gmail.com (Roy Zuniga) Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 01:21:31 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] bgerrors In-Reply-To: <532E55D6.1060705@hafd.org> References: <23A08BF2-9E5A-442C-8513-53A41EB7BBFF@gmail.com> <532E55D6.1060705@hafd.org> Message-ID: +1 On Mar 22, 2014 10:33 PM, "Jordan Bettis" wrote: > > I used to be a member of a list named "unsubscibe"[sic]. > > > On 03/22/2014 03:15 PM, Alex MacKay wrote: > > I am looking for assistance. > > I joined Chipy a couple years ago. > > I have since not been able to keep up and I do not want the messages > > anymore. > > I no longer have id and password to disassociate from the group. > > Is their anyone that can help me "UNJOIN". > > Thanks for your assistance. > > > > > > On Mar 22, 2014, at 3:04 PM, Chad Homan wrote: > > > >> I am looking for a bit of assistance with a custom message box written > >> in tkinter. > >> > >> I am getting the following error msg (most of the time there are > >> multiple messages) > >> > >> bgerror failed to handle background error. > >> Original error: invalid command name "136342620callit" > >> Error in bgerror: can't invoke "toplevel" command: application > >> has been destroyed > >> > >> > >> Thanks in advance > >> > >> Together We Win! > >> -- > >> Chad - I AM MONAVIE > >> Do You Know Your Life Score? > >> Creating A More Meaningful Life > >> > >> Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll use > >> Windows." > >> Now they have two problems. > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Chicago mailing list > >> Chicago at python.org > >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 24, 2014, at 12:24 PM, Ross Heflin wrote: > > A beer for anyone who brings me the head of the first recruiter to post a Java-only position in Chicago. > > -Ross > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago From emperorcezar at gmail.com Mon Mar 24 20:27:00 2014 From: emperorcezar at gmail.com (Cezar Jenkins) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 14:27:00 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] New rules regarding job posts to the mailing list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ha. While it wasn?t clarified to me. I?m pretty sure the other stipulation is that it somehow involves Python. I?m sure someone from the board can jump in. --? Cezar Jenkins @emperorcezar From:?Ross Heflin heflin.rosst at gmail.com Reply:?The Chicago Python Users Group chicago at python.org Date:?March 24, 2014 at 2:25:08 PM To:?The Chicago Python Users Group chicago at python.org Subject:? Re: [Chicago] New rules regarding job posts to the mailing list A beer for anyone who brings me the head of the first recruiter to post a Java-only position in Chicago. -Ross _______________________________________________ Chicago mailing list Chicago at python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skip at pobox.com Mon Mar 24 20:34:13 2014 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 14:34:13 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] New rules regarding job posts to the mailing list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Cezar Jenkins wrote: > Per the Chipy board meeting, we are now allowing all jobs posts through > moderation and onto the list with the stipulation that they are for > Chicagoland positions. > > While not a rule, I personally would recommend to recruiters and companies > that they join the list so they can answer any questions that come up. Cezar, I recommend that you revisit this once the new Python job board is up. It will allow filtering by location and other fields, so will probably be more useful than a simple mail to the mailing list. Skip From emperorcezar at gmail.com Mon Mar 24 20:39:08 2014 From: emperorcezar at gmail.com (Cezar Jenkins) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 14:39:08 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] New rules regarding job posts to the mailing list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Skip. I?m sure the board will do that. (I?m not on the board yet, haven?t had the time to commit to the meetings) --? Cezar Jenkins @emperorcezar From:?Skip Montanaro skip at pobox.com Reply:?The Chicago Python Users Group chicago at python.org Date:?March 24, 2014 at 2:34:31 PM To:?The Chicago Python Users Group chicago at python.org Subject:? Re: [Chicago] New rules regarding job posts to the mailing list On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Cezar Jenkins wrote: > Per the Chipy board meeting, we are now allowing all jobs posts through > moderation and onto the list with the stipulation that they are for > Chicagoland positions. > > While not a rule, I personally would recommend to recruiters and companies > that they join the list so they can answer any questions that come up. Cezar, I recommend that you revisit this once the new Python job board is up. It will allow filtering by location and other fields, so will probably be more useful than a simple mail to the mailing list. Skip _______________________________________________ Chicago mailing list Chicago at python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From chipy at sunahsuh.com Fri Mar 28 21:54:19 2014 From: chipy at sunahsuh.com (Sunah Suh) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 15:54:19 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Python in the browser IDE In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sounds like IPython Notebook might do exactly what you need: http://ipython.org/notebook.html The link above is for the actual package, but there are a number of hosted IPython Notebook instances out there, including Wakari: https://www.wakari.io/ The free version of Wakari is.. slow, and so you may want to spring for the paid version if you find it useful. Otherwise, you can try to host your own instance on the free AWS tier, instructions for which are here: https://gist.github.com/iamatypeofwalrus/5183133 -- Sunah Suh Software Engineer @ Etsy Full-Stack Web Developer, Pythonista, Jill-of-all-trades Intermittent Winner in Life Website: sunahsuh.com | GChat: sunah at sunahsuh.com Check my current email load: http://courteous.ly/d7mWb4 On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Randy Baxley wrote: > Having a lot of fun writing little programs like: > > x = 5 > print(1 < x < 10) > print(10 < x < 20 ) > print(x < 10 < x*10 < 100) > print(10 > x <= 9) > print(5 == x > 4) > import urllib > > from xml.etree.ElementTree import parse > > > def monitor(): > > p = urllib.urlopen(' > http://chicago.transitapi.com/bustime/map/getStopPredictions.jsp?stop=5623&route=80 > ') > pdoc = parse(p) > for pre in pdoc.findall('pre'): > vid = pre.findtext('v') > eta = pre.findtext('pt') > print 'Bus number ', vid, 'will arrive in ', eta > print '---' > > > print '_'*10 > import time > count = 0 > while count < 60 : > monitor() > count = count + 1 > time.sleep(60) > > Someday I may also learn a framework but for now I am wondering if there > is a browser ide that I could just and paste to then share the link which I > could also run from safari on my phone? > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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And, of course, if you have not used ipython notebooks, then definitely - a big way to check those out is (for example) with the https://github.com/ptwobrussell/Mining-the-Social-Web-2nd-Edition book - the link is to ipython notebooks to go with the book. Awesomeness. Finally, if you just want to scrape, scrape, scrape - and get your sea legs w/ lxml (i.e. stimulated by my talk Wednesday), I'm in process of pylint cleanup (not sure how much left - not too bad; but I got sidelined by some edx) and will get it up on github soon (this weekend?). - Yarko On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Sunah Suh wrote: > Sounds like IPython Notebook might do exactly what you need: > http://ipython.org/notebook.html > > The link above is for the actual package, but there are a number of hosted > IPython Notebook instances out there, including Wakari: > https://www.wakari.io/ > > The free version of Wakari is.. slow, and so you may want to spring for > the paid version if you find it useful. Otherwise, you can try to host your > own instance on the free AWS tier, instructions for which are here: > https://gist.github.com/iamatypeofwalrus/5183133 > > -- > Sunah Suh > Software Engineer @ Etsy > Full-Stack Web Developer, Pythonista, Jill-of-all-trades > Intermittent Winner in Life > Website: sunahsuh.com | GChat: sunah at sunahsuh.com > Check my current email load: http://courteous.ly/d7mWb4 > > > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Randy Baxley wrote: > >> Having a lot of fun writing little programs like: >> >> x = 5 >> print(1 < x < 10) >> print(10 < x < 20 ) >> print(x < 10 < x*10 < 100) >> print(10 > x <= 9) >> print(5 == x > 4) >> import urllib >> >> from xml.etree.ElementTree import parse >> >> >> def monitor(): >> >> p = urllib.urlopen(' >> http://chicago.transitapi.com/bustime/map/getStopPredictions.jsp?stop=5623&route=80 >> ') >> pdoc = parse(p) >> for pre in pdoc.findall('pre'): >> vid = pre.findtext('v') >> eta = pre.findtext('pt') >> print 'Bus number ', vid, 'will arrive in ', eta >> print '---' >> >> >> print '_'*10 >> import time >> count = 0 >> while count < 60 : >> monitor() >> count = count + 1 >> time.sleep(60) >> >> Someday I may also learn a framework but for now I am wondering if there >> is a browser ide that I could just and paste to then share the link which I >> could also run from safari on my phone? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carl at personnelware.com Sat Mar 29 02:39:51 2014 From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 20:39:51 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Python in the browser IDE In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I pasted your code, ran it and now will share the link: http://codepad.org/AUvZFWwd Is that what you wanted? ;) p = urllib.urlopen(' http://chicago.transitapi.com/bustime/map/getStopPredictions.jsp?stop=5623&route=80 ') File "/usr/lib/python2.5/urllib.py", line 82, in urlopen return opener.open(url) ... File "/usr/lib/python2.5/httplib.py", line 663, in connect socket.SOCK_STREAM): IOError: [Errno socket error] (-2, 'Name or service not known') I think they have it sandboxed so you can't do things like send spam. There is also a Python 3.3.2+ shell on https://www.python.org/ (hit the yellow [>_] button.) but you can't upload a script or share the URL.. and urllib isn't this same? ----> 1 import urllib.urlopen ImportError: No module named 'urllib.urlopen' Someone else's problem. On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Randy Baxley wrote: > > Having a lot of fun writing little programs like: > > x = 5 > print(1 < x < 10) > print(10 < x < 20 ) > print(x < 10 < x*10 < 100) > print(10 > x <= 9) > print(5 == x > 4) > import urllib > > from xml.etree.ElementTree import parse > > > def monitor(): > > p = urllib.urlopen(' http://chicago.transitapi.com/bustime/map/getStopPredictions.jsp?stop=5623&route=80 ') > pdoc = parse(p) > for pre in pdoc.findall('pre'): > vid = pre.findtext('v') > eta = pre.findtext('pt') > print 'Bus number ', vid, 'will arrive in ', eta > print '---' > > > print '_'*10 > import time > count = 0 > while count < 60 : > monitor() > count = count + 1 > time.sleep(60) > > Someday I may also learn a framework but for now I am wondering if there is a browser ide that I could just and paste to then share the link which I could also run from safari on my phone? > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- Carl K -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From randy7771026 at gmail.com Sat Mar 29 15:55:49 2014 From: randy7771026 at gmail.com (Randy Baxley) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 09:55:49 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Python in the browser IDE In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: First I want to thank the three of you for responding. I will likely try poking around the links. I took the Rice course so the idea I have right now in mind is based on using Codeskulptor but wishing it had somehow had at least the libraries of Anaconda that Brian R likes and would somehow switch from GUI display to web display without too much effort. http://www.codeskulptor.org/#user29_RMncsWVAGWNhB0f_0.py Saves for me but I am not sure if that is because I took the class or not. My final project broke but I sort of fixed it so folks can play with it a bit if they like. control with arrows and space bar. I am wanting to do the same thing where it would just display a GUI that you could add your 10 favorite bus stops on then one that finds the ten closest bus stops to wherever you are and gives you directions to them and the direction buses stopping there are headed. No sandboxes, please. As I have studied Python and that has sprung out into observing and participating in open hardware repair and recycling, Open government, open data, open OS and others and of course all the new free MOOCS I have wished the groups, universities and corporations involved could find a common direction instead of competing. That is after all why the net has become so successful. On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Yarko Tymciurak wrote: > Randy - > > Check out interactivepython.org (try the demonstration); > > They use skulpt.org (http://runestoneinteractive.org/about.html), which > also is combined with codemirror to produce http://www.codeskulptor.org/ - the latter being the kingpin of > https://www.coursera.org/course/interactivepython > > (you can search github for codeskulptor to find games, presumably from the > interactivepython course) > > If you dig further, you can find out about implementation of skulpt, how > it came to be, its limitations, etc. > There are some pretty interesting articles on this. > > And, of course, if you have not used ipython notebooks, then definitely - > a big way to check those out is (for example) with the > https://github.com/ptwobrussell/Mining-the-Social-Web-2nd-Edition book - > the link is to ipython notebooks to go with the book. Awesomeness. > > Finally, if you just want to scrape, scrape, scrape - and get your sea > legs w/ lxml (i.e. stimulated by my talk Wednesday), I'm in process of > pylint cleanup (not sure how much left - not too bad; but I got sidelined > by some edx) and will get it up on github soon (this weekend?). > > - Yarko > > > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Sunah Suh wrote: > >> Sounds like IPython Notebook might do exactly what you need: >> http://ipython.org/notebook.html >> >> The link above is for the actual package, but there are a number of >> hosted IPython Notebook instances out there, including Wakari: >> https://www.wakari.io/ >> >> The free version of Wakari is.. slow, and so you may want to spring for >> the paid version if you find it useful. Otherwise, you can try to host your >> own instance on the free AWS tier, instructions for which are here: >> https://gist.github.com/iamatypeofwalrus/5183133 >> >> -- >> Sunah Suh >> Software Engineer @ Etsy >> Full-Stack Web Developer, Pythonista, Jill-of-all-trades >> Intermittent Winner in Life >> Website: sunahsuh.com | GChat: sunah at sunahsuh.com >> Check my current email load: http://courteous.ly/d7mWb4 >> >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Randy Baxley wrote: >> >>> Having a lot of fun writing little programs like: >>> >>> x = 5 >>> print(1 < x < 10) >>> print(10 < x < 20 ) >>> print(x < 10 < x*10 < 100) >>> print(10 > x <= 9) >>> print(5 == x > 4) >>> import urllib >>> >>> from xml.etree.ElementTree import parse >>> >>> >>> def monitor(): >>> >>> p = urllib.urlopen(' >>> http://chicago.transitapi.com/bustime/map/getStopPredictions.jsp?stop=5623&route=80 >>> ') >>> pdoc = parse(p) >>> for pre in pdoc.findall('pre'): >>> vid = pre.findtext('v') >>> eta = pre.findtext('pt') >>> print 'Bus number ', vid, 'will arrive in ', eta >>> print '---' >>> >>> >>> print '_'*10 >>> import time >>> count = 0 >>> while count < 60 : >>> monitor() >>> count = count + 1 >>> time.sleep(60) >>> >>> Someday I may also learn a framework but for now I am wondering if there >>> is a browser ide that I could just and paste to then share the link which I >>> could also run from safari on my phone? >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carl at personnelware.com Sat Mar 29 17:31:19 2014 From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 11:31:19 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Python in the browser IDE In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.codeskulptor.org/#user29_RMncsWVAGWNhB0f_0.py I see your code, but when I run it: Line 1: ImportError: No module named urllib On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Randy Baxley wrote: > First I want to thank the three of you for responding. I will likely try > poking around the links. I took the Rice course so the idea I have right > now in mind is based on using Codeskulptor but wishing it had somehow had > at least the libraries of Anaconda that Brian R likes and would somehow > switch from GUI display to web display without too much effort. > > http://www.codeskulptor.org/#user29_RMncsWVAGWNhB0f_0.py > > Saves for me but I am not sure if that is because I took the class or not. > > My final project broke but I sort of fixed it so folks can play with it a > bit if they like. control with arrows and space bar. > > I am wanting to do the same thing where it would just display a GUI that > you could add your 10 favorite bus stops on then one that finds the ten > closest bus stops to wherever you are and gives you directions to them and > the direction buses stopping there are headed. > > No sandboxes, please. > > As I have studied Python and that has sprung out into observing and > participating in open hardware repair and recycling, Open government, open > data, open OS and others and of course all the new free MOOCS I have wished > the groups, universities and corporations involved could find a common > direction instead of competing. That is after all why the net has become > so successful. > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Yarko Tymciurak wrote: > >> Randy - >> >> Check out interactivepython.org (try the demonstration); >> >> They use skulpt.org (http://runestoneinteractive.org/about.html), which >> also is combined with codemirror to produce http://www.codeskulptor.org/ - the latter being the kingpin of >> https://www.coursera.org/course/interactivepython >> >> (you can search github for codeskulptor to find games, presumably from >> the interactivepython course) >> >> If you dig further, you can find out about implementation of skulpt, how >> it came to be, its limitations, etc. >> There are some pretty interesting articles on this. >> >> And, of course, if you have not used ipython notebooks, then definitely - >> a big way to check those out is (for example) with the >> https://github.com/ptwobrussell/Mining-the-Social-Web-2nd-Edition book >> - the link is to ipython notebooks to go with the book. Awesomeness. >> >> Finally, if you just want to scrape, scrape, scrape - and get your sea >> legs w/ lxml (i.e. stimulated by my talk Wednesday), I'm in process of >> pylint cleanup (not sure how much left - not too bad; but I got sidelined >> by some edx) and will get it up on github soon (this weekend?). >> >> - Yarko >> >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Sunah Suh wrote: >> >>> Sounds like IPython Notebook might do exactly what you need: >>> http://ipython.org/notebook.html >>> >>> The link above is for the actual package, but there are a number of >>> hosted IPython Notebook instances out there, including Wakari: >>> https://www.wakari.io/ >>> >>> The free version of Wakari is.. slow, and so you may want to spring for >>> the paid version if you find it useful. Otherwise, you can try to host your >>> own instance on the free AWS tier, instructions for which are here: >>> https://gist.github.com/iamatypeofwalrus/5183133 >>> >>> -- >>> Sunah Suh >>> Software Engineer @ Etsy >>> Full-Stack Web Developer, Pythonista, Jill-of-all-trades >>> Intermittent Winner in Life >>> Website: sunahsuh.com | GChat: sunah at sunahsuh.com >>> Check my current email load: http://courteous.ly/d7mWb4 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Randy Baxley wrote: >>> >>>> Having a lot of fun writing little programs like: >>>> >>>> x = 5 >>>> print(1 < x < 10) >>>> print(10 < x < 20 ) >>>> print(x < 10 < x*10 < 100) >>>> print(10 > x <= 9) >>>> print(5 == x > 4) >>>> import urllib >>>> >>>> from xml.etree.ElementTree import parse >>>> >>>> >>>> def monitor(): >>>> >>>> p = urllib.urlopen(' >>>> http://chicago.transitapi.com/bustime/map/getStopPredictions.jsp?stop=5623&route=80 >>>> ') >>>> pdoc = parse(p) >>>> for pre in pdoc.findall('pre'): >>>> vid = pre.findtext('v') >>>> eta = pre.findtext('pt') >>>> print 'Bus number ', vid, 'will arrive in ', eta >>>> print '---' >>>> >>>> >>>> print '_'*10 >>>> import time >>>> count = 0 >>>> while count < 60 : >>>> monitor() >>>> count = count + 1 >>>> time.sleep(60) >>>> >>>> Someday I may also learn a framework but for now I am wondering if >>>> there is a browser ide that I could just and paste to then share the link >>>> which I could also run from safari on my phone? >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chicago mailing list >>>> Chicago at python.org >>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -- Carl K -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shekay at pobox.com Sat Mar 29 18:30:44 2014 From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 12:30:44 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Python in the browser IDE In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Randy Baxley wrote: > First I want to thank the three of you for responding. I will likely try > poking around the links. I took the Rice course so the idea I have right > now in mind is based on using Codeskulptor but wishing it had somehow had > at least the libraries of Anaconda that Brian R likes and would somehow > switch from GUI display to web display without too much effort. > [...] > No sandboxes, please. > Evaluate ipython notebooks in general, and https://www.wakari.io/specifically to see if it gives you what you want. Wakari is an interactive environment provided by Continuum, the anaconda maintainers. You'll have access to packages provided in anaconda. -- sheila -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From randy7771026 at gmail.com Sat Mar 29 18:57:38 2014 From: randy7771026 at gmail.com (Randy Baxley) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 12:57:38 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Python in the browser IDE In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you, Sheila and Carl. Carl, yes that code does fail as urllib is not included in Codeskultor which is only a fairly specific subset of Python for the Rice course. Sheila, that is my plan going into next week. I took a quick look last night after coming home from a blues performance and am going out for a matinee today. Hopefully I can stay on track and at least get some of the small arrival programs working in the browser this week. On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Carl Karsten wrote: > > > http://www.codeskulptor.org/#user29_RMncsWVAGWNhB0f_0.py > > I see your code, but when I run it: > > Line 1: ImportError: No module named urllib > > > > > On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Randy Baxley wrote: > >> First I want to thank the three of you for responding. I will likely try >> poking around the links. I took the Rice course so the idea I have right >> now in mind is based on using Codeskulptor but wishing it had somehow had >> at least the libraries of Anaconda that Brian R likes and would somehow >> switch from GUI display to web display without too much effort. >> >> http://www.codeskulptor.org/#user29_RMncsWVAGWNhB0f_0.py >> >> Saves for me but I am not sure if that is because I took the class or not. >> >> My final project broke but I sort of fixed it so folks can play with it a >> bit if they like. control with arrows and space bar. >> >> I am wanting to do the same thing where it would just display a GUI that >> you could add your 10 favorite bus stops on then one that finds the ten >> closest bus stops to wherever you are and gives you directions to them and >> the direction buses stopping there are headed. >> >> No sandboxes, please. >> >> As I have studied Python and that has sprung out into observing and >> participating in open hardware repair and recycling, Open government, open >> data, open OS and others and of course all the new free MOOCS I have wished >> the groups, universities and corporations involved could find a common >> direction instead of competing. That is after all why the net has become >> so successful. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Yarko Tymciurak wrote: >> >>> Randy - >>> >>> Check out interactivepython.org (try the demonstration); >>> >>> They use skulpt.org (http://runestoneinteractive.org/about.html), >>> which also is combined with codemirror to produce >>> http://www.codeskulptor.org/ - the latter being the kingpin of >>> https://www.coursera.org/course/interactivepython >>> >>> (you can search github for codeskulptor to find games, presumably from >>> the interactivepython course) >>> >>> If you dig further, you can find out about implementation of skulpt, how >>> it came to be, its limitations, etc. >>> There are some pretty interesting articles on this. >>> >>> And, of course, if you have not used ipython notebooks, then definitely >>> - a big way to check those out is (for example) with the >>> https://github.com/ptwobrussell/Mining-the-Social-Web-2nd-Edition book >>> - the link is to ipython notebooks to go with the book. Awesomeness. >>> >>> Finally, if you just want to scrape, scrape, scrape - and get your sea >>> legs w/ lxml (i.e. stimulated by my talk Wednesday), I'm in process of >>> pylint cleanup (not sure how much left - not too bad; but I got sidelined >>> by some edx) and will get it up on github soon (this weekend?). >>> >>> - Yarko >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Sunah Suh wrote: >>> >>>> Sounds like IPython Notebook might do exactly what you need: >>>> http://ipython.org/notebook.html >>>> >>>> The link above is for the actual package, but there are a number of >>>> hosted IPython Notebook instances out there, including Wakari: >>>> https://www.wakari.io/ >>>> >>>> The free version of Wakari is.. slow, and so you may want to spring for >>>> the paid version if you find it useful. Otherwise, you can try to host your >>>> own instance on the free AWS tier, instructions for which are here: >>>> https://gist.github.com/iamatypeofwalrus/5183133 >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sunah Suh >>>> Software Engineer @ Etsy >>>> Full-Stack Web Developer, Pythonista, Jill-of-all-trades >>>> Intermittent Winner in Life >>>> Website: sunahsuh.com | GChat: sunah at sunahsuh.com >>>> Check my current email load: http://courteous.ly/d7mWb4 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Randy Baxley wrote: >>>> >>>>> Having a lot of fun writing little programs like: >>>>> >>>>> x = 5 >>>>> print(1 < x < 10) >>>>> print(10 < x < 20 ) >>>>> print(x < 10 < x*10 < 100) >>>>> print(10 > x <= 9) >>>>> print(5 == x > 4) >>>>> import urllib >>>>> >>>>> from xml.etree.ElementTree import parse >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> def monitor(): >>>>> >>>>> p = urllib.urlopen(' >>>>> http://chicago.transitapi.com/bustime/map/getStopPredictions.jsp?stop=5623&route=80 >>>>> ') >>>>> pdoc = parse(p) >>>>> for pre in pdoc.findall('pre'): >>>>> vid = pre.findtext('v') >>>>> eta = pre.findtext('pt') >>>>> print 'Bus number ', vid, 'will arrive in ', eta >>>>> print '---' >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> print '_'*10 >>>>> import time >>>>> count = 0 >>>>> while count < 60 : >>>>> monitor() >>>>> count = count + 1 >>>>> time.sleep(60) >>>>> >>>>> Someday I may also learn a framework but for now I am wondering if >>>>> there is a browser ide that I could just and paste to then share the link >>>>> which I could also run from safari on my phone? >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Chicago mailing list >>>>> Chicago at python.org >>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chicago mailing list >>>> Chicago at python.org >>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > > > -- > Carl K > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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