From adam at adamforsyth.net  Mon Jun  1 17:49:44 2015
From: adam at adamforsyth.net (Adam Forsyth)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 10:49:44 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] BattleHack Tickets Available Now! (6/27-28)
Message-ID: <CABrs+N-De7n9AZYEvEFHcqeuPxZXb0GetJT=iwNT=p1iuxPNeg@mail.gmail.com>

I'm not sure if any of you went to BattleHack Chicago last year, but it's
part of a worldwide hackathon series. It's primarily sponsored by PayPal
(who owns Braintree, my employer) who has been a sponsor of ChiPy for the
past year. More tickets were just released at 10am today, get them while
they're available!


*Battle Hack is coming to Chicago (June 27-28) at 1871*Experience an
amazing learning and sharing environment, with epic food, great people and
amazing prizes (including a chance to compete for $100,000).
This a short video overview of one the latest Battle Hack events:
https://youtu.be/DtkgPJPle2E?t=53s
Tickets are free and limited. More info: http://bit.ly/BHCHI1
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From jcalahor at yahoo.com  Fri Jun  5 06:05:49 2015
From: jcalahor at yahoo.com (Jimmy Calahorrano)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 04:05:49 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Chicago] The battle of the languages (May ChiPy)
Message-ID: <1652682113.5489623.1433477149657.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi,
the video for May's meeting is ready.
It is located here:
The battle of programming languages for Python developers (Go, Swift, R, Ruby and others)

| ? |
| ? |  | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? |
| The battle of programming languages for Python developer... |
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PyVideo.org admin kindly add this video please.

Thanks,Jimmy


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From shekay at pobox.com  Fri Jun  5 14:32:16 2015
From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 07:32:16 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] The battle of the languages (May ChiPy)
In-Reply-To: <1652682113.5489623.1433477149657.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1652682113.5489623.1433477149657.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAHCs_rbZLM8Hn+MiZBO7BL0cC=S5KL=XjxhTVetmsbC=C8uCJw@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 11:05 PM, Jimmy Calahorrano via Chicago <
chicago at python.org> wrote:

> PyVideo.org admin kindly add this video please.
>

Will isn't on this mailing list, and I'm not always keeping up with mailing
lists. The way we keep up with manual requests is for people to open an
issue for us. https://github.com/pyvideo/pyvideo/issues


-- 
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From jcalahor at yahoo.com  Fri Jun  5 21:19:50 2015
From: jcalahor at yahoo.com (Jimmy Calahorrano)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 12:19:50 -0700
Subject: [Chicago] The battle of the languages (May ChiPy)
In-Reply-To: <CAFkk+9__-3L1ktDNwMH46u9LYT2rkm-72NzsAs+hwTcS1NmnCg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1433531990.18397.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web181701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

i can upload a newer (different link) version with no background noise. let u know once is ready.?


jimmy

Enviado desde Yahoo Mail en Android

De:"Robert Dean" <robertbdean at gmail.com>
Fecha:vie, jun 5, PM a 2:13 PM
Asunto:Re: [Chicago] The battle of the languages (May ChiPy)

W h y? is there extremely irritating background music during

a l l? of this video.? It surely must have been editing in, no?

Again,? w h a t? were the video editors? t h i n k i n g ? ? ? 


On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 11:05 PM, Jimmy Calahorrano via Chicago <chicago at python.org> wrote:

Hi,


the video for May's meeting is ready.


It is located here:


The battle of programming languages for Python developers (Go, Swift, R, Ruby and others)

?

?

?

?

?

?

?

?

The battle of programming languages for Python developer...

View on www.youtube.com

Preview by Yahoo

?



PyVideo.org admin kindly add this video please.


Thanks,

Jimmy




?


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From bherman at uniqueinsuranceco.com  Fri Jun  5 17:27:17 2015
From: bherman at uniqueinsuranceco.com (brian herman)
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2015 10:27:17 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] pysimplesoap and windows sql server
Message-ID: <5571BFD5.6090503@uniqueinsuranceco.com>

I have a python application that uses pysimplesoap to send a soap 
request to windows.
The problem is the password field is not encoded in UTF-8 it may use 
Windows-1252?
Python Code
https://gist.github.com/brianherman/209af7751444ec308e1b
Visual Basic Sample code (how to encode the password field in visual basic)
https://gist.github.com/brianherman/b4174b99be9000fcc4f8
They use visual basic to encode the password which works. The problem is 
reproducing this in python
This is the encoded password in the database (microsoft sql server):

I have tried using the md5 package in python but I can't seem to get the 
encoding right.

-- 

Brian Herman
IT Department
O: (773)299-7557

Unique Insurance Company <https://www.uniqueinsuranceco.com>

We value your input, please click here to provide feedback on Unique 
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From shekay at pobox.com  Fri Jun  5 22:24:13 2015
From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 15:24:13 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] The battle of the languages (May ChiPy)
In-Reply-To: <1433531990.18397.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web181701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <CAFkk+9__-3L1ktDNwMH46u9LYT2rkm-72NzsAs+hwTcS1NmnCg@mail.gmail.com>
 <1433531990.18397.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web181701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAHCs_rZ8Y-of-berLqcUAyv3q4=OJw_qOS3gkGQVx9zmdeULKg@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Jimmy Calahorrano via Chicago <
chicago at python.org> wrote:

> i can upload a newer (different link) version with no background noise.
> let u know once is ready.


If it is no problem could you chop up the video in to separate videos per
talk? It helps make a nice experience on pyvideo. We like to have separate
pages per talk.

Also, I have an issue opened for a to-do for adding the talk to pyvideo.
When you repost, could you let us know?
https://github.com/pyvideo/pyvideo/issues/111


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From jeremy.mcmillan at gmail.com  Sat Jun  6 03:09:23 2015
From: jeremy.mcmillan at gmail.com (Jeremy McMillan)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 20:09:23 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] pysimplesoap and windows sql server
In-Reply-To: <5571BFD5.6090503@uniqueinsuranceco.com>
References: <5571BFD5.6090503@uniqueinsuranceco.com>
Message-ID: <CADbRpAy_ZLt=jVdQseajhB+XzK38THhYwtDscP5fVffxV+kTQQ@mail.gmail.com>

I don't see your python code attempting to md5 the string.

Maybe you should try using hashlib?

https://docs.python.org/2/library/hashlib.html

On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 10:27 AM, brian herman <bherman at uniqueinsuranceco.com
> wrote:

>  I have a python application that uses pysimplesoap to send a soap request
> to windows.
> The problem is the password field is not encoded in UTF-8 it may use
> Windows-1252?
> Python Code
> https://gist.github.com/brianherman/209af7751444ec308e1b
> Visual Basic Sample code (how to encode the password field in visual basic)
> https://gist.github.com/brianherman/b4174b99be9000fcc4f8
> They use visual basic to encode the password which works. The problem is
> reproducing this in python
> This is the encoded password in the database (microsoft sql server):
>
> I have tried using the md5 package in python but I can't seem to get the
> encoding right.
>
> --
>
>  Brian Herman
> IT Department
> O: (773)299-7557
>
>  [image: Unique Insurance Company] <https://www.uniqueinsuranceco.com>
>
> We value your input, please click here to provide feedback on Unique
> Insurance. <http://www.reputation.com/kiosk?key=d41c9b57f18>
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From jcalahor at yahoo.com  Sat Jun  6 15:30:38 2015
From: jcalahor at yahoo.com (Jimmy Calahorrano)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 13:30:38 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Chicago] sponsorship for next video
Message-ID: <2008317308.6249560.1433597438374.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi,
we are looking for a company that would be willing to sponsor the video production for next meeting.
Next meeting will cover Spark which is becoming a hot topic these days.?The first company that offers 200 USD will have it's logo included at the beginning of the video and it will be the sole sponsor for the video
There are 2 video production teams at this time helping ChiPy, the first is Carl's team and the second is my team. We help based in our availability.We don't charge any money for this, however we rely on support from companies that can help us paying for parking, editing costs and mobilization of the equipment.
Thanks,Jimmy
Agenda for new meeting:
   
   - PyCon 2015 Review   
(0:05:00 Minutes)   
By: Jason Wirth?   

   - Introduction to PySpark   
(1:00:00 Minutes)   
By: Nusreth Baig?   
Big Shoulders Data Camp presents an ?Introduction to PySpark?. One of our top instructors and data scientists, Adam McElhinney, will be giving a talk on working with PySpark, and presenting a use case. Audience is encouraged to come prepared to take notes, ask questions, and get a high-level understanding on one of Python's many analytical libraries.



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From johnstoner2 at gmail.com  Sun Jun  7 07:09:34 2015
From: johnstoner2 at gmail.com (John Stoner)
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2015 05:09:34 +0000
Subject: [Chicago] The battle of the languages (May ChiPy)
In-Reply-To: <CAHCs_rZ8Y-of-berLqcUAyv3q4=OJw_qOS3gkGQVx9zmdeULKg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFkk+9__-3L1ktDNwMH46u9LYT2rkm-72NzsAs+hwTcS1NmnCg@mail.gmail.com>
 <1433531990.18397.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web181701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
 <CAHCs_rZ8Y-of-berLqcUAyv3q4=OJw_qOS3gkGQVx9zmdeULKg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMXtMFCvM6RJ9ouOgCMLY7a-YT14JYt9sBcAkNhdJmb2M8nHJQ@mail.gmail.com>

Who did the Javascript presentation? I have a question for that guy.

On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 3:25 PM sheila miguez <shekay at pobox.com> wrote:

>
> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Jimmy Calahorrano via Chicago <
> chicago at python.org> wrote:
>
>> i can upload a newer (different link) version with no background noise.
>> let u know once is ready.
>
>
> If it is no problem could you chop up the video in to separate videos per
> talk? It helps make a nice experience on pyvideo. We like to have separate
> pages per talk.
>
> Also, I have an issue opened for a to-do for adding the talk to pyvideo.
> When you repost, could you let us know?
> https://github.com/pyvideo/pyvideo/issues/111
>
>
> --
> shekay at pobox.com
>  _______________________________________________
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> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
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From japhy at pearachute.com  Sun Jun  7 20:07:28 2015
From: japhy at pearachute.com (Japhy Bartlett)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 13:07:28 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] The battle of the languages (May ChiPy)
In-Reply-To: <CAMXtMFCvM6RJ9ouOgCMLY7a-YT14JYt9sBcAkNhdJmb2M8nHJQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFkk+9__-3L1ktDNwMH46u9LYT2rkm-72NzsAs+hwTcS1NmnCg@mail.gmail.com>
 <1433531990.18397.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web181701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
 <CAHCs_rZ8Y-of-berLqcUAyv3q4=OJw_qOS3gkGQVx9zmdeULKg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAMXtMFCvM6RJ9ouOgCMLY7a-YT14JYt9sBcAkNhdJmb2M8nHJQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANTsVHJ1c237+U18V6ms=kTm1i4Wd4YCGmfYF4-C-=3WvETBEw@mail.gmail.com>

That's David Sutton, you can find him on the Twitters at
https://twitter.com/zzsnzmn

On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 12:09 AM, John Stoner <johnstoner2 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Who did the Javascript presentation? I have a question for that guy.
>
> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 3:25 PM sheila miguez <shekay at pobox.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Jimmy Calahorrano via Chicago <
>> chicago at python.org> wrote:
>>
>>> i can upload a newer (different link) version with no background noise.
>>> let u know once is ready.
>>
>>
>> If it is no problem could you chop up the video in to separate videos per
>> talk? It helps make a nice experience on pyvideo. We like to have separate
>> pages per talk.
>>
>> Also, I have an issue opened for a to-do for adding the talk to pyvideo.
>> When you repost, could you let us know?
>> https://github.com/pyvideo/pyvideo/issues/111
>>
>>
>> --
>> shekay at pobox.com
>>  _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>
>
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From robkapteyn at gmail.com  Mon Jun  8 08:07:24 2015
From: robkapteyn at gmail.com (Rob Kapteyn)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 01:07:24 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] pysimplesoap and windows sql server
In-Reply-To: <CADbRpAy_ZLt=jVdQseajhB+XzK38THhYwtDscP5fVffxV+kTQQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5571BFD5.6090503@uniqueinsuranceco.com>
 <CADbRpAy_ZLt=jVdQseajhB+XzK38THhYwtDscP5fVffxV+kTQQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABdKVNhjAp6rzPh=5qvdJj4SahsOXwCQf+eZG73-hdNT1uAPoQ@mail.gmail.com>

That's my first guess too.
md5 is a really old module:
"*Deprecated* since version 2.5: Use the hashlib module instead"

I would not be surprised if it didn't work correctly on Unicode strings,
especially something like Windows-1252.


On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 8:09 PM, Jeremy McMillan <jeremy.mcmillan at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I don't see your python code attempting to md5 the string.
>
> Maybe you should try using hashlib?
>
> https://docs.python.org/2/library/hashlib.html
>
> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 10:27 AM, brian herman <
> bherman at uniqueinsuranceco.com> wrote:
>
>>  I have a python application that uses pysimplesoap to send a soap
>> request to windows.
>> The problem is the password field is not encoded in UTF-8 it may use
>> Windows-1252?
>> Python Code
>> https://gist.github.com/brianherman/209af7751444ec308e1b
>> Visual Basic Sample code (how to encode the password field in visual
>> basic)
>> https://gist.github.com/brianherman/b4174b99be9000fcc4f8
>> They use visual basic to encode the password which works. The problem is
>> reproducing this in python
>> This is the encoded password in the database (microsoft sql server):
>>
>> I have tried using the md5 package in python but I can't seem to get the
>> encoding right.
>>
>> --
>>
>>  Brian Herman
>> IT Department
>> O: (773)299-7557
>>
>>  [image: Unique Insurance Company] <https://www.uniqueinsuranceco.com>
>>
>> We value your input, please click here to provide feedback on Unique
>> Insurance. <http://www.reputation.com/kiosk?key=d41c9b57f18>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
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>>
>
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From jcalahor at yahoo.com  Tue Jun  9 01:08:53 2015
From: jcalahor at yahoo.com (Jimmy Calahorrano)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 23:08:53 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Chicago] The battle of the languages (May ChiPy)
In-Reply-To: <CANTsVHJ1c237+U18V6ms=kTm1i4Wd4YCGmfYF4-C-=3WvETBEw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANTsVHJ1c237+U18V6ms=kTm1i4Wd4YCGmfYF4-C-=3WvETBEw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1685476272.7559103.1433804933403.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

here is an updated version of the video, we have removed the background sound and improved the talk of the winner (who requested minor changes)
thxJimmy
The battle of programming languages for Python developers (Go, Swift, R, Ruby and others)
| ? |
| ? |  | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? |
| The battle of programming languages for Python developer... |
|  |
| View on www.youtube.com | Preview by Yahoo |
|  |
| ? |

 ?
      From: Japhy Bartlett <japhy at pearachute.com>
 To: The Chicago Python Users Group <chicago at python.org> 
 Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2015 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [Chicago] The battle of the languages (May ChiPy)
   
That's David Sutton, you can find him on the Twitters at https://twitter.com/zzsnzmn


On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 12:09 AM, John Stoner <johnstoner2 at gmail.com> wrote:

Who did the Javascript presentation? I have a question for that guy.

On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 3:25 PM sheila miguez <shekay at pobox.com> wrote:


On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Jimmy Calahorrano via Chicago <chicago at python.org> wrote:

i can upload a newer (different link) version with no background noise. let u know once is ready.?

If it is no problem could you chop up the video in to separate videos per talk? It helps make a nice experience on pyvideo. We like to have separate pages per talk.

Also, I have an issue opened for a to-do for adding the talk to pyvideo. When you repost, could you let us know? https://github.com/pyvideo/pyvideo/issues/111


-- 
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From carl at personnelware.com  Thu Jun 11 00:52:06 2015
From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 17:52:06 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Carl and video
Message-ID: <CADmzSSi9xAeBrKRkBky2i-A8ZNDZi0TC2FWAKqShiUZJD4h=cw@mail.gmail.com>

I need to correct some things.

I am not a team.  I am a chipy member that has a ton of gear and
expertise.  I  likes making videos of things like chipy talks.   For larger
events like PyCon I will assemble a team of volunteers for that event.
There is a group of about 6 of us that work together on the software and
workflow.  I am the only one that lives in the US.  They generally don't
know ChiPy happens unless we are experimenting with the live stream system.

I feel uncomfortable saying I charge money for doing chipy videos.  That
implies I am making videos because I think it is profitable and won't if I
don't get paid.  I am comfortable saying I will sell add space on the front
of the video, and will spend the money on whatever I feel like. In the last
12 months,  I have collected a total of about $1000.  ChiPy took out 20%.

I have a for profit LLC.  It makes the PyCon expense reimbursement process
100x easier.  I could be a 501c3, but my accountant said "don't bother, you
are not making enough money for it to be worth the paperwork."

Here is what I "charge" to setup my PA system and do video:

Find three companies and collect some amount to have their logo put on the
title of the video.

For the how and why details: http://whiteboard.debian.net/34c94c.txt2



On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Jimmy Calahorrano via Chicago <
chicago at python.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> we are looking for a company that would be willing to sponsor the video
> production for next meeting.
>
> Next meeting will cover Spark which is becoming a hot topic these days.
> The first company that offers 200 USD will have it's logo included at the
> beginning of the video and it will be the sole sponsor for the video
>
> There are 2 video production teams at this time helping ChiPy, the first
> is Carl's team and the second is my team. We help based in our availability.
> We don't charge any money for this, however we rely on support from
> companies that can help us paying for parking, editing costs and
> mobilization of the equipment.
>
> Thanks,
> Jimmy
>
> Agenda for new meeting:
>
>
>    - *PyCon 2015 Review*
>    (0:05:00 Minutes)
>    By: Jason Wirth
>    - *Introduction to PySpark*
>    (1:00:00 Minutes)
>    By: Nusreth Baig
>    Big Shoulders Data Camp presents an ?Introduction to PySpark?. One of
>    our top instructors and data scientists, Adam McElhinney, will be giving a
>    talk on working with PySpark, and presenting a use case. Audience is
>    encouraged to come prepared to take notes, ask questions, and get a
>    high-level understanding on one of Python's many analytical libraries.
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>
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From robkapteyn at gmail.com  Thu Jun 11 16:06:42 2015
From: robkapteyn at gmail.com (Rob Kapteyn)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 09:06:42 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Carl and video
In-Reply-To: <CADmzSSi9xAeBrKRkBky2i-A8ZNDZi0TC2FWAKqShiUZJD4h=cw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADmzSSi9xAeBrKRkBky2i-A8ZNDZi0TC2FWAKqShiUZJD4h=cw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABdKVNjHauEUvA0xGigVwuk3Z+UJXqHoxts2-XbaHA7fc=EbOA@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Carl!
Thank You so much for doing this so well for so long for our little
"hobbyist group" ;)
It is almost 10 years since you started -- isn't it ?

It is a tribute both to you and to your technology (lots of python) that so
many people seem to think that
your productions and web hosting are paid professional work.
We owe you LOTS of thanks for your work.

I'm sure that the ChiPy videos on PyVideo have played a big part in the
explosive growth of both ChiPy, in Chicago, and Python, in the world.

THANKS!

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 5:52 PM, Carl Karsten <carl at personnelware.com>
wrote:

> I need to correct some things.
>
> I am not a team.  I am a chipy member that has a ton of gear and
> expertise.  I  likes making videos of things like chipy talks.   For larger
> events like PyCon I will assemble a team of volunteers for that event.
> There is a group of about 6 of us that work together on the software and
> workflow.  I am the only one that lives in the US.  They generally don't
> know ChiPy happens unless we are experimenting with the live stream system.
>
> I feel uncomfortable saying I charge money for doing chipy videos.  That
> implies I am making videos because I think it is profitable and won't if I
> don't get paid.  I am comfortable saying I will sell add space on the front
> of the video, and will spend the money on whatever I feel like. In the last
> 12 months,  I have collected a total of about $1000.  ChiPy took out 20%.
>
> I have a for profit LLC.  It makes the PyCon expense reimbursement process
> 100x easier.  I could be a 501c3, but my accountant said "don't bother, you
> are not making enough money for it to be worth the paperwork."
>
> Here is what I "charge" to setup my PA system and do video:
>
> Find three companies and collect some amount to have their logo put on the
> title of the video.
>
> For the how and why details: http://whiteboard.debian.net/34c94c.txt2
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Jimmy Calahorrano via Chicago <
> chicago at python.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> we are looking for a company that would be willing to sponsor the video
>> production for next meeting.
>>
>> Next meeting will cover Spark which is becoming a hot topic these days.
>> The first company that offers 200 USD will have it's logo included at the
>> beginning of the video and it will be the sole sponsor for the video
>>
>> There are 2 video production teams at this time helping ChiPy, the first
>> is Carl's team and the second is my team. We help based in our availability.
>> We don't charge any money for this, however we rely on support from
>> companies that can help us paying for parking, editing costs and
>> mobilization of the equipment.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jimmy
>>
>> Agenda for new meeting:
>>
>>
>>    - *PyCon 2015 Review*
>>    (0:05:00 Minutes)
>>    By: Jason Wirth
>>    - *Introduction to PySpark*
>>    (1:00:00 Minutes)
>>    By: Nusreth Baig
>>    Big Shoulders Data Camp presents an ?Introduction to PySpark?. One of
>>    our top instructors and data scientists, Adam McElhinney, will be giving a
>>    talk on working with PySpark, and presenting a use case. Audience is
>>    encouraged to come prepared to take notes, ask questions, and get a
>>    high-level understanding on one of Python's many analytical libraries.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Carl K
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>
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From proba at allstate.com  Thu Jun 11 16:34:26 2015
From: proba at allstate.com (Robare, Phillip (Randstant))
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 14:34:26 +0000
Subject: [Chicago] Carl and video
In-Reply-To: <CABdKVNjHauEUvA0xGigVwuk3Z+UJXqHoxts2-XbaHA7fc=EbOA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADmzSSi9xAeBrKRkBky2i-A8ZNDZi0TC2FWAKqShiUZJD4h=cw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABdKVNjHauEUvA0xGigVwuk3Z+UJXqHoxts2-XbaHA7fc=EbOA@mail.gmail.com>
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+1 for Carl

From: Chicago [mailto:chicago-bounces+proba=allstate.com at python.org] On Behalf Of Rob Kapteyn
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 9:07 AM
To: The Chicago Python Users Group
Subject: Re: [Chicago] Carl and video

Hey Carl!
Thank You so much for doing this so well for so long for our little "hobbyist group" ;)
It is almost 10 years since you started -- isn't it ?

It is a tribute both to you and to your technology (lots of python) that so many people seem to think that
your productions and web hosting are paid professional work.
We owe you LOTS of thanks for your work.

I'm sure that the ChiPy videos on PyVideo have played a big part in the explosive growth of both ChiPy, in Chicago, and Python, in the world.

THANKS!

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 5:52 PM, Carl Karsten <carl at personnelware.com<mailto:carl at personnelware.com>> wrote:
I need to correct some things.
I am not a team.  I am a chipy member that has a ton of gear and expertise.  I  likes making videos of things like chipy talks.   For larger events like PyCon I will assemble a team of volunteers for that event.  There is a group of about 6 of us that work together on the software and workflow.  I am the only one that lives in the US.  They generally don't know ChiPy happens unless we are experimenting with the live stream system.
I feel uncomfortable saying I charge money for doing chipy videos.  That implies I am making videos because I think it is profitable and won't if I don't get paid.  I am comfortable saying I will sell add space on the front of the video, and will spend the money on whatever I feel like. In the last 12 months,  I have collected a total of about $1000.  ChiPy took out 20%.

I have a for profit LLC.  It makes the PyCon expense reimbursement process 100x easier.  I could be a 501c3, but my accountant said "don't bother, you are not making enough money for it to be worth the paperwork."
Here is what I "charge" to setup my PA system and do video:

Find three companies and collect some amount to have their logo put on the title of the video.

For the how and why details: http://whiteboard.debian.net/34c94c.txt2


On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Jimmy Calahorrano via Chicago <chicago at python.org<mailto:chicago at python.org>> wrote:
Hi,

we are looking for a company that would be willing to sponsor the video production for next meeting.

Next meeting will cover Spark which is becoming a hot topic these days.
The first company that offers 200 USD will have it's logo included at the beginning of the video and it will be the sole sponsor for the video

There are 2 video production teams at this time helping ChiPy, the first is Carl's team and the second is my team. We help based in our availability.
We don't charge any money for this, however we rely on support from companies that can help us paying for parking, editing costs and mobilization of the equipment.

Thanks,
Jimmy

Agenda for new meeting:

?      PyCon 2015 Review
(0:05:00 Minutes)
By: Jason Wirth
?      Introduction to PySpark
(1:00:00 Minutes)
By: Nusreth Baig
Big Shoulders Data Camp presents an ?Introduction to PySpark?. One of our top instructors and data scientists, Adam McElhinney, will be giving a talk on working with PySpark, and presenting a use case. Audience is encouraged to come prepared to take notes, ask questions, and get a high-level understanding on one of Python's many analytical libraries.




_______________________________________________
Chicago mailing list
Chicago at python.org<mailto:Chicago at python.org>
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago



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From carl at personnelware.com  Thu Jun 11 21:09:50 2015
From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 14:09:50 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Carl and video
In-Reply-To: <CABdKVNjHauEUvA0xGigVwuk3Z+UJXqHoxts2-XbaHA7fc=EbOA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADmzSSi9xAeBrKRkBky2i-A8ZNDZi0TC2FWAKqShiUZJD4h=cw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABdKVNjHauEUvA0xGigVwuk3Z+UJXqHoxts2-XbaHA7fc=EbOA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADmzSSh0QU-ant6mc26BkAU9-b7xRnimOVTfwUzAbFyLiD5Rxw@mail.gmail.com>

You're welcome.

Not quite 10 years, and it's hard to figure out exactly when to start.

2007 was when I started trying to make videos of talks.  I am not sure if
any of those meetings ever made it online.  I might have the files on my
old desktop that is on a shelf in my basement.

2008 is when I discovered the Debian Conference Video Team wiki that showed
me a better way to do things.    Even then it took a few months to adapt
their 5 day conference procedures to a 2 hour meeting.

PyCon 2009 was my first grand slam. All talks and all but one tutorial.

As long as we are digging in history, here is one of my favourites:

Mindblowing Python GIL

Presented by David Beazley at ChiPy on June 11, 2009
http://pyvideo.org/video/588/mindblowing-python-gil

which had like 12,000 views, then this tweet happened:

Guido van Rossum ?@gvanrossum 26 Jun 2009
Who wants to *fix* the GIL for multi-core use? (NOT remove it.) Start with
Dave Beazley's amazing preso - http://blip.tv/file/2232410
https://twitter.com/gvanrossum/status/2348060772

and in searching for that, I had no idea how many times the talk was
tweeted about:
https://twitter.com/search?q=Mindblowing%20Python%20GIL&src=typd

To bad blip.tv dumped my accounts.

On a happy note,  I hear that video inspired some changes to the core C
Python GIL stuff.
That makes me feel good.



On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:06 AM, Rob Kapteyn <robkapteyn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hey Carl!
> Thank You so much for doing this so well for so long for our little
"hobbyist group" ;)
> It is almost 10 years since you started -- isn't it ?
>
> It is a tribute both to you and to your technology (lots of python) that
so many people seem to think that
> your productions and web hosting are paid professional work.
> We owe you LOTS of thanks for your work.
>
> I'm sure that the ChiPy videos on PyVideo have played a big part in the
explosive growth of both ChiPy, in Chicago, and Python, in the world.
>
> THANKS!
>
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 5:52 PM, Carl Karsten <carl at personnelware.com>
wrote:
>>
>> I need to correct some things.
>>
>> I am not a team.  I am a chipy member that has a ton of gear and
expertise.  I  likes making videos of things like chipy talks.   For larger
events like PyCon I will assemble a team of volunteers for that event.
There is a group of about 6 of us that work together on the software and
workflow.  I am the only one that lives in the US.  They generally don't
know ChiPy happens unless we are experimenting with the live stream system.
>>
>> I feel uncomfortable saying I charge money for doing chipy videos.  That
implies I am making videos because I think it is profitable and won't if I
don't get paid.  I am comfortable saying I will sell add space on the front
of the video, and will spend the money on whatever I feel like. In the last
12 months,  I have collected a total of about $1000.  ChiPy took out 20%.
>>
>> I have a for profit LLC.  It makes the PyCon expense reimbursement
process 100x easier.  I could be a 501c3, but my accountant said "don't
bother, you are not making enough money for it to be worth the paperwork."
>>
>> Here is what I "charge" to setup my PA system and do video:
>>
>> Find three companies and collect some amount to have their logo put on
the title of the video.
>>
>> For the how and why details: http://whiteboard.debian.net/34c94c.txt2
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Jimmy Calahorrano via Chicago <
chicago at python.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> we are looking for a company that would be willing to sponsor the video
production for next meeting.
>>>
>>> Next meeting will cover Spark which is becoming a hot topic these days.
>>> The first company that offers 200 USD will have it's logo included at
the beginning of the video and it will be the sole sponsor for the video
>>>
>>> There are 2 video production teams at this time helping ChiPy, the
first is Carl's team and the second is my team. We help based in our
availability.
>>> We don't charge any money for this, however we rely on support from
companies that can help us paying for parking, editing costs and
mobilization of the equipment.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jimmy
>>>
>>> Agenda for new meeting:
>>>
>>> PyCon 2015 Review
>>> (0:05:00 Minutes)
>>> By: Jason Wirth
>>> Introduction to PySpark
>>> (1:00:00 Minutes)
>>> By: Nusreth Baig
>>> Big Shoulders Data Camp presents an ?Introduction to PySpark?. One of
our top instructors and data scientists, Adam McElhinney, will be giving a
talk on working with PySpark, and presenting a use case. Audience is
encouraged to come prepared to take notes, ask questions, and get a
high-level understanding on one of Python's many analytical libraries.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Chicago mailing list
>>> Chicago at python.org
>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Carl K
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>



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From d-lewit at neiu.edu  Fri Jun 12 05:45:05 2015
From: d-lewit at neiu.edu (Lewit, Douglas)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 22:45:05 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Question about using Sympy.
Message-ID: <CAPdZZGzR_qxqYPKebxPBWC1THHpzfP-Jb5AT_x2dOory=dPgvg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi there Chipy Folks,

Just wondering if the sympy module has a builtin routine for solving
recurrence relations.  If you know, please enlighten me.  I know that Maple
and Mathematica have such routines--and they are pretty impressive.  Just
wondering if the sympy module has something equivalent.

Thanks and I hope everyone in the group has a fun weekend.  I'm looking
forward to Wednesday evening's meeting at Pumping Station One.  I'll be
arriving right after my second Algorithms exam, so there's a chance I won't
be in a very happy mood!  That course is just brutal.  The prof got his
undergrad degree at Harvard and his PhD. at the University of Chicago.  A
real genius.... and also extremely demanding!  So wish me luck on that
exam!   :-)

Warm regards,

Douglas.
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From wesclemens at gmail.com  Fri Jun 12 16:37:41 2015
From: wesclemens at gmail.com (William E. S. Clemens)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 09:37:41 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Spark 1.4 Release
Message-ID: <CAOo02k8p-_qmXE+tvXUiUmYCNATQbhAO-zmFcceNBxzP1rHO8Q@mail.gmail.com>

A quick follow up to yesterdays meeting.

It looks like Spark 1.4 was release yesterday and it has added support for
python 3 and has some improved python interfaces.

http://spark.apache.org/releases/spark-release-1-4-0.html
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From namusoke at hotmail.com  Fri Jun 12 16:41:54 2015
From: namusoke at hotmail.com (Valentina Kibuyaga)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 09:41:54 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Spark 1.4 Release
In-Reply-To: <CAOo02k8p-_qmXE+tvXUiUmYCNATQbhAO-zmFcceNBxzP1rHO8Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOo02k8p-_qmXE+tvXUiUmYCNATQbhAO-zmFcceNBxzP1rHO8Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU181-W26BC6C2B2BF2269388E68CABB0@phx.gbl>

Thank you!

Valentina Kibuyaga

Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 09:37:41 -0500
From: wesclemens at gmail.com
To: chicago at python.org
Subject: [Chicago] Spark 1.4 Release

A quick follow up to yesterdays meeting. 
It looks like Spark 1.4 was release yesterday and it has added support for python 3 and has some improved python interfaces. 
http://spark.apache.org/releases/spark-release-1-4-0.html

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From tathagatadg at gmail.com  Sat Jun 13 17:04:58 2015
From: tathagatadg at gmail.com (Tathagata Dasgupta)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 10:04:58 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Podcasts
Message-ID: <CAB32_MN4O1TJ+MWrXh=QBCA73o=kvDmx+Xu6_1_BMz1g+5ib=A@mail.gmail.com>

Happy weekend ChiPy ...
I am a big fan of podcasts and have subscribed to more than what I can make
time for.
TalkPython and Podcast.__init__ are two Python specific podcasts that I
have really enjoyed. (Like TalkPython better)

Which podcasts do you guys subscribe to?

-- 
Cheers,
T

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From robkapteyn at gmail.com  Sat Jun 13 18:09:01 2015
From: robkapteyn at gmail.com (Rob Kapteyn)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 11:09:01 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Podcasts
In-Reply-To: <CAB32_MN4O1TJ+MWrXh=QBCA73o=kvDmx+Xu6_1_BMz1g+5ib=A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAB32_MN4O1TJ+MWrXh=QBCA73o=kvDmx+Xu6_1_BMz1g+5ib=A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABdKVNiJBX-iuiuX2BV+bPzUox2LpC+cJJS-m76QgHb5TuyiLA@mail.gmail.com>

By far my favorite:

FLOSS Weekly.  (Free Libre Open Source Software)
http://twit.tv/show/floss-weekly

280 episodes since 2006.

So much stuff there it is hard to list.
There is a interview with Guido, and interviews of some of our ChiPy people.

On a related subject --
Can someone recommend a simple, stable podcast player for Android ?
I haven't found a player I'm happy with since I ditched iOS and OSX for
Android and Linux.


On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 10:04 AM, Tathagata Dasgupta <tathagatadg at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Happy weekend ChiPy ...
> I am a big fan of podcasts and have subscribed to more than what I can
> make time for.
> TalkPython and Podcast.__init__ are two Python specific podcasts that I
> have really enjoyed. (Like TalkPython better)
>
> Which podcasts do you guys subscribe to?
>
> --
> Cheers,
> T
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
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From labeledloser at gmail.com  Sat Jun 13 19:15:39 2015
From: labeledloser at gmail.com (Hector Rios)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 12:15:39 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Podcasts
In-Reply-To: <CABdKVNiJBX-iuiuX2BV+bPzUox2LpC+cJJS-m76QgHb5TuyiLA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAB32_MN4O1TJ+MWrXh=QBCA73o=kvDmx+Xu6_1_BMz1g+5ib=A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABdKVNiJBX-iuiuX2BV+bPzUox2LpC+cJJS-m76QgHb5TuyiLA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+X0G_Cxfo4ayv4RqH-C=qGdVnFyZpqzYyX11e7H5rzxYD2eSw@mail.gmail.com>

I'm actually a huge fan of the new Slack podcast:
https://slack.com/varietypack

It's fairly new, but I like the vibe.


{
    "name": "Hector Rios",
    "title": "Software Developer",
    "contact": {
            "linkedin": "hrios10",
            "gmail": "labeledloser",
            "site": "http://hectron.github.io/"
    }
}

*No trees were killed to send this message, but a large number of electrons
were terribly inconvenienced.*

On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Rob Kapteyn <robkapteyn at gmail.com> wrote:

> By far my favorite:
>
> FLOSS Weekly.  (Free Libre Open Source Software)
> http://twit.tv/show/floss-weekly
>
> 280 episodes since 2006.
>
> So much stuff there it is hard to list.
> There is a interview with Guido, and interviews of some of our ChiPy
> people.
>
> On a related subject --
> Can someone recommend a simple, stable podcast player for Android ?
> I haven't found a player I'm happy with since I ditched iOS and OSX for
> Android and Linux.
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 10:04 AM, Tathagata Dasgupta <
> tathagatadg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Happy weekend ChiPy ...
>> I am a big fan of podcasts and have subscribed to more than what I can
>> make time for.
>> TalkPython and Podcast.__init__ are two Python specific podcasts that I
>> have really enjoyed. (Like TalkPython better)
>>
>> Which podcasts do you guys subscribe to?
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> T
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
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From zitterbewegung at gmail.com  Mon Jun 15 02:38:03 2015
From: zitterbewegung at gmail.com (Joshua Herman)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 19:38:03 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Question about using Sympy.
In-Reply-To: <CAPdZZGzR_qxqYPKebxPBWC1THHpzfP-Jb5AT_x2dOory=dPgvg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPdZZGzR_qxqYPKebxPBWC1THHpzfP-Jb5AT_x2dOory=dPgvg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAB3V1zmkq_Lj_nitb1PkZk+m6PtrH0Dq824zBVPBgWf7NbszxQ@mail.gmail.com>

>From the documentation
http://docs.sympy.org/dev/modules/solvers/solvers.html#module-sympy.solvers.recurr

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:45 PM, Lewit, Douglas <d-lewit at neiu.edu> wrote:

> Hi there Chipy Folks,
>
> Just wondering if the sympy module has a builtin routine for solving
> recurrence relations.  If you know, please enlighten me.  I know that Maple
> and Mathematica have such routines--and they are pretty impressive.  Just
> wondering if the sympy module has something equivalent.
>
> Thanks and I hope everyone in the group has a fun weekend.  I'm looking
> forward to Wednesday evening's meeting at Pumping Station One.  I'll be
> arriving right after my second Algorithms exam, so there's a chance I won't
> be in a very happy mood!  That course is just brutal.  The prof got his
> undergrad degree at Harvard and his PhD. at the University of Chicago.  A
> real genius.... and also extremely demanding!  So wish me luck on that
> exam!   :-)
>
> Warm regards,
>
> Douglas.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>
>
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From d-lewit at neiu.edu  Mon Jun 15 06:31:24 2015
From: d-lewit at neiu.edu (Lewit, Douglas)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 23:31:24 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Problems with Merge Sort???
Message-ID: <CAPdZZGz+U4FMwQZsvDbyWwmLp-t-pzWEK4GJwgO8q6aUsqD_xQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hey guys,

I'm trying to master the merge sort algorithm and definitely experiencing
some failure.  My merge program works great.  It takes two arrays, and
assuming that they are already sorted, the two sorted arrays get merged
together into one unified sorted array.  So that's not the problem.

The problem is my mergeSort program.  I inserted a couple of print
statements to print out the intermediate results of the recursion, and it
appears that all my program does is break the array down into pieces and
then rebuilds the pieces.... into the original array!  (Could be worse I
guess.  No error messages!  But the output is totally useless.)  I'm
honestly at a loss.  I know I'm really close to the right solution, but
there is something that I'm missing and I can't figure it out.  I've been
struggling with this for a couple days now, and I'm ready to give up.  Can
someone please enlighten me?

Thanks!!!

Best,

Douglas.
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From d-lewit at neiu.edu  Mon Jun 15 09:29:32 2015
From: d-lewit at neiu.edu (Lewit, Douglas)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 02:29:32 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Not exactly a solution, but....
Message-ID: <CAPdZZGw4CTKHdZYAuoL-dii9_Y4UExKsV1jYhO_st3Gm7xW_0Q@mail.gmail.com>

I sort of got my mergeSort program to work, but the problem is that the
algorithm isn't really mergeSort at all!  It uses merge, but my algorithm
is iterative rather than recursive, so it's not really a mergeSort.  It's a
merge-something, but not true mergeSort.  Oh well.  Any suggestions?
Thanks!

Best,

Douglas.
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From bradley.marts at gmail.com  Mon Jun 15 12:50:12 2015
From: bradley.marts at gmail.com (Brad Martsberger)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 05:50:12 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Problems with Merge Sort???
In-Reply-To: <CAPdZZGz+U4FMwQZsvDbyWwmLp-t-pzWEK4GJwgO8q6aUsqD_xQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPdZZGz+U4FMwQZsvDbyWwmLp-t-pzWEK4GJwgO8q6aUsqD_xQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACvivO-19WAcGE47xKom13ZHwh6F5mofJaQx9+QXiJ+=4GqsZw@mail.gmail.com>

Your mergeSort function doesn't return anything. It also doesn't modify the
input list. If it doesn't do one of these two things, you'll never get a
result from it. Assuming you aren't required to write a mergesort that
works in place, I'd recommend you need two return statements in your
recursive mergeSort function (one for the base case, one for the recursive
case), and whenever you call mergeSort you should be assigning the result
to something.

P.S. mergeSort looks like the name of a Java method, merge_sort or
mergesort looks like the name of a python function.

Good luck,
Brad

On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 11:31 PM, Lewit, Douglas <d-lewit at neiu.edu> wrote:

> Hey guys,
>
> I'm trying to master the merge sort algorithm and definitely experiencing
> some failure.  My merge program works great.  It takes two arrays, and
> assuming that they are already sorted, the two sorted arrays get merged
> together into one unified sorted array.  So that's not the problem.
>
> The problem is my mergeSort program.  I inserted a couple of print
> statements to print out the intermediate results of the recursion, and it
> appears that all my program does is break the array down into pieces and
> then rebuilds the pieces.... into the original array!  (Could be worse I
> guess.  No error messages!  But the output is totally useless.)  I'm
> honestly at a loss.  I know I'm really close to the right solution, but
> there is something that I'm missing and I can't figure it out.  I've been
> struggling with this for a couple days now, and I'm ready to give up.  Can
> someone please enlighten me?
>
> Thanks!!!
>
> Best,
>
> Douglas.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>
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From tanya at tickel.net  Mon Jun 15 12:50:29 2015
From: tanya at tickel.net (Tanya Schlusser)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 05:50:29 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Not exactly a solution, but.... (Lewit, Douglas)
Message-ID: <CA+bo0=Qk5JTZwQOh4hP8AOiHVz6bp0uFaTCQ-WDSbw2HmORh0w@mail.gmail.com>

>
> I sort of got my mergeSort program to work, but the problem is that the
>
algorithm isn't really mergeSort at all!  It uses merge, but my algorithm
> is iterative rather than recursive, so it's not really a mergeSort.  It's a
> merge-something, but not true mergeSort.  Oh well.  Any suggestions?
> Thanks!
>


The algorithm is kind of iterative-ish so it may be working OK.

The best way to investigate is to watch the AlgoRythmics perform the Mergesort
Algorithm in a Transylvanian-Saxon Folk Dance
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaqR3G_NVoo>

Seriously, put it on 2x speed, it is the greatest thing on earth.

~Tanya
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From bradley.marts at gmail.com  Mon Jun 15 13:08:46 2015
From: bradley.marts at gmail.com (Brad Martsberger)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 06:08:46 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Not exactly a solution, but....
In-Reply-To: <CAPdZZGw4CTKHdZYAuoL-dii9_Y4UExKsV1jYhO_st3Gm7xW_0Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPdZZGw4CTKHdZYAuoL-dii9_Y4UExKsV1jYhO_st3Gm7xW_0Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACvivO-3VeYiXY0w+6tpg1aTUgDF2nLXjktvgtoigPoUsuYzJQ@mail.gmail.com>

In fact, the algorithm that you implemented in this code is insertion sort.
On each iteration you are "merging" a single element with a sorted list of
your previously merged elements. That is, you insert a single element into
your growing sorted list. This algorithm has time complexity O(n^2),
mergesort will have time complexity O(n log n).

Brad

On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 2:29 AM, Lewit, Douglas <d-lewit at neiu.edu> wrote:

> I sort of got my mergeSort program to work, but the problem is that the
> algorithm isn't really mergeSort at all!  It uses merge, but my algorithm
> is iterative rather than recursive, so it's not really a mergeSort.  It's a
> merge-something, but not true mergeSort.  Oh well.  Any suggestions?
> Thanks!
>
> Best,
>
> Douglas.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
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From d-lewit at neiu.edu  Mon Jun 15 13:31:38 2015
From: d-lewit at neiu.edu (Lewit, Douglas)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 06:31:38 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Not exactly a solution, but....
In-Reply-To: <CACvivO-3VeYiXY0w+6tpg1aTUgDF2nLXjktvgtoigPoUsuYzJQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPdZZGw4CTKHdZYAuoL-dii9_Y4UExKsV1jYhO_st3Gm7xW_0Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <CACvivO-3VeYiXY0w+6tpg1aTUgDF2nLXjktvgtoigPoUsuYzJQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPdZZGyGEGzbCHr96bHWZ9ocC-8eP86sp19uRJtuWFUzsoxx8Q@mail.gmail.com>

Brad,

You're a genius!  That last email helped me fix my original program.
Hooray!!!  In this version I included a million comments because I'm going
to email this to a professor who really doesn't know Python that well.  So
the comments may help him to interpret the code a little better.  The only
"problem" is that my mergeSort program doesn't change the array "in
place".  Not a big deal really.  To permanently change the array you would
just do this:

array = [randint(0, 100) for i in range(20)] #### for example
array = mergeSort(array)
And presto!  It works!

The searching and sorting stuff is very cool and challenging, but I still
wish that CS professors would also teach some practical stuff, such as web
development and internet security, etc, etc.  I've noticed that if you're a
CS major they make you struggle through about 2 years of purely academic
and theoretical stuff before they start teaching the skills needed for
employment as a computer professional.  I mean the Merge Sort algorithm is
interesting, and I can see its value, but it would be nice if my professors
at the university would teach me how to test a website for security
weaknesses and practical stuff like that.  Oh well.  Maybe next semester,
right?

Again Brad, I really appreciate your help.  I love you guys at ChiPy!

Take care and have a great week.

Best,

Douglas.

P.S.  Regarding merge*S*ort vs. merge*s*ort, after three semesters of Java
programming at Northeastern it's the naming style that I've gotten used
to.  Probably not really a big deal, right?  It's just a matter of personal
preference.


On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 6:08 AM, Brad Martsberger <bradley.marts at gmail.com>
wrote:

> In fact, the algorithm that you implemented in this code is insertion
> sort. On each iteration you are "merging" a single element with a sorted
> list of your previously merged elements. That is, you insert a single
> element into your growing sorted list. This algorithm has time complexity
> O(n^2), mergesort will have time complexity O(n log n).
>
> Brad
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 2:29 AM, Lewit, Douglas <d-lewit at neiu.edu> wrote:
>
>> I sort of got my mergeSort program to work, but the problem is that the
>> algorithm isn't really mergeSort at all!  It uses merge, but my algorithm
>> is iterative rather than recursive, so it's not really a mergeSort.  It's a
>> merge-something, but not true mergeSort.  Oh well.  Any suggestions?
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Douglas.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From azizharrington at gmail.com  Mon Jun 15 14:10:08 2015
From: azizharrington at gmail.com (Aziz Harrington)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 07:10:08 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Problems with Merge Sort???
Message-ID: <CAPHZ0C2-2TbVvUpxqYERvS6aQvyacAQ+UAenAjj4fHvHgRoMJA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Douglas, I just worked through this problem myself over the weekend. are
you doing this course by chance?
http://interactivepython.org/runestone/static/pythonds/index.html

Anyway, could you share a link to your code? Hard to make suggestions
without seeing it.

-Aziz
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 19:38:03 -0500
From: Joshua Herman <zitterbewegung at gmail.com>
To: The Chicago Python Users Group <chicago at python.org>
Subject: Re: [Chicago] Question about using Sympy.
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>From the documentation
http://docs.sympy.org/dev/modules/solvers/solvers.html#module-sympy.solvers.recurr

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:45 PM, Lewit, Douglas <d-lewit at neiu.edu> wrote:

> Hi there Chipy Folks,
>
> Just wondering if the sympy module has a builtin routine for solving
> recurrence relations.  If you know, please enlighten me.  I know that
Maple
> and Mathematica have such routines--and they are pretty impressive.  Just
> wondering if the sympy module has something equivalent.
>
> Thanks and I hope everyone in the group has a fun weekend.  I'm looking
> forward to Wednesday evening's meeting at Pumping Station One.  I'll be
> arriving right after my second Algorithms exam, so there's a chance I
won't
> be in a very happy mood!  That course is just brutal.  The prof got his
> undergrad degree at Harvard and his PhD. at the University of Chicago.  A
> real genius.... and also extremely demanding!  So wish me luck on that
> exam!   :-)
>
> Warm regards,
>
> Douglas.
>
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From: "Lewit, Douglas" <d-lewit at neiu.edu>
To: The Chicago Python Users Group <chicago at python.org>
Subject: [Chicago] Problems with Merge Sort???
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Hey guys,

I'm trying to master the merge sort algorithm and definitely experiencing
some failure.  My merge program works great.  It takes two arrays, and
assuming that they are already sorted, the two sorted arrays get merged
together into one unified sorted array.  So that's not the problem.

The problem is my mergeSort program.  I inserted a couple of print
statements to print out the intermediate results of the recursion, and it
appears that all my program does is break the array down into pieces and
then rebuilds the pieces.... into the original array!  (Could be worse I
guess.  No error messages!  But the output is totally useless.)  I'm
honestly at a loss.  I know I'm really close to the right solution, but
there is something that I'm missing and I can't figure it out.  I've been
struggling with this for a couple days now, and I'm ready to give up.  Can
someone please enlighten me?

Thanks!!!

Best,

Douglas.
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Subject: [Chicago] Not exactly a solution, but....
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I sort of got my mergeSort program to work, but the problem is that the
algorithm isn't really mergeSort at all!  It uses merge, but my algorithm
is iterative rather than recursive, so it's not really a mergeSort.  It's a
merge-something, but not true mergeSort.  Oh well.  Any suggestions?
Thanks!

Best,

Douglas.
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From ryan.manly at gmail.com  Mon Jun 15 14:25:12 2015
From: ryan.manly at gmail.com (Ryan Manly)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 07:25:12 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Podcasts
In-Reply-To: <CAB32_MN4O1TJ+MWrXh=QBCA73o=kvDmx+Xu6_1_BMz1g+5ib=A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAB32_MN4O1TJ+MWrXh=QBCA73o=kvDmx+Xu6_1_BMz1g+5ib=A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHUcXiaCqWe9rqVygDC1biYq+zuPYu7WrqB8+kkASC7ApH9HrQ@mail.gmail.com>

This podcast hasn't been updated in forever but he had some nice "gets".
The first episode in particular is VERY cool.

http://radiofreepython.com/episodes/

On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 10:04 AM, Tathagata Dasgupta <tathagatadg at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Happy weekend ChiPy ...
> I am a big fan of podcasts and have subscribed to more than what I can
> make time for.
> TalkPython and Podcast.__init__ are two Python specific podcasts that I
> have really enjoyed. (Like TalkPython better)
>
> Which podcasts do you guys subscribe to?
>
> --
> Cheers,
> T
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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From d-lewit at neiu.edu  Mon Jun 15 17:02:08 2015
From: d-lewit at neiu.edu (Lewit, Douglas)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 10:02:08 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Problems with Merge Sort???
In-Reply-To: <CAPHZ0C2-2TbVvUpxqYERvS6aQvyacAQ+UAenAjj4fHvHgRoMJA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPHZ0C2-2TbVvUpxqYERvS6aQvyacAQ+UAenAjj4fHvHgRoMJA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPdZZGwZe_7MSY5kWWtTG=utFYVpqE-7p8uSosC3qgQMPPJevw@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Aziz,

I'm not taking an online Python course right now.  I'm taking CS-404
(Analysis of Algorithms) at Northeastern Illinois University Professor
Kimmel.  The course is mostly math, but requires a little Java programming
on the side.  I asked Dr. Kimmel if I could implement some of the
algorithms in Python.  He said I could, but since he doesn't know Python he
won't be able to provide much guidance in that direction.

Here's my Merge Sort program.  It's attached to my email.  The sorted array
is returned, but the array is not sorted "in place".  If you want to save
the sorted array, that's easy enough to do.  Just override the original
array variable or create a new one.

Gotta run but thanks for the reply.  I hope you find my code helpful.  It
took me a lot of time to figure it out!  The merge method wasn't really
that hard for me.  But getting merge sort to work properly was definitely a
challenge.

Best,

Douglas.


On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 7:10 AM, Aziz Harrington <azizharrington at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Douglas, I just worked through this problem myself over the weekend.
> are you doing this course by chance?
> http://interactivepython.org/runestone/static/pythonds/index.html
>
> Anyway, could you share a link to your code? Hard to make suggestions
> without seeing it.
>
> -Aziz
> Send Chicago mailing list submissions to
>         chicago at python.org
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> Today's Topics:
>
>    1. Re: Question about using Sympy. (Joshua Herman)
>    2. Problems with Merge Sort??? (Lewit, Douglas)
>    3. Not exactly a solution, but.... (Lewit, Douglas)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 19:38:03 -0500
> From: Joshua Herman <zitterbewegung at gmail.com>
> To: The Chicago Python Users Group <chicago at python.org>
> Subject: Re: [Chicago] Question about using Sympy.
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
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> >From the documentation
>
> http://docs.sympy.org/dev/modules/solvers/solvers.html#module-sympy.solvers.recurr
>
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:45 PM, Lewit, Douglas <d-lewit at neiu.edu> wrote:
>
> > Hi there Chipy Folks,
> >
> > Just wondering if the sympy module has a builtin routine for solving
> > recurrence relations.  If you know, please enlighten me.  I know that
> Maple
> > and Mathematica have such routines--and they are pretty impressive.  Just
> > wondering if the sympy module has something equivalent.
> >
> > Thanks and I hope everyone in the group has a fun weekend.  I'm looking
> > forward to Wednesday evening's meeting at Pumping Station One.  I'll be
> > arriving right after my second Algorithms exam, so there's a chance I
> won't
> > be in a very happy mood!  That course is just brutal.  The prof got his
> > undergrad degree at Harvard and his PhD. at the University of Chicago.  A
> > real genius.... and also extremely demanding!  So wish me luck on that
> > exam!   :-)
> >
> > Warm regards,
> >
> > Douglas.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Chicago mailing list
> > Chicago at python.org
> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
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> From: "Lewit, Douglas" <d-lewit at neiu.edu>
> To: The Chicago Python Users Group <chicago at python.org>
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>
> Hey guys,
>
> I'm trying to master the merge sort algorithm and definitely experiencing
> some failure.  My merge program works great.  It takes two arrays, and
> assuming that they are already sorted, the two sorted arrays get merged
> together into one unified sorted array.  So that's not the problem.
>
> The problem is my mergeSort program.  I inserted a couple of print
> statements to print out the intermediate results of the recursion, and it
> appears that all my program does is break the array down into pieces and
> then rebuilds the pieces.... into the original array!  (Could be worse I
> guess.  No error messages!  But the output is totally useless.)  I'm
> honestly at a loss.  I know I'm really close to the right solution, but
> there is something that I'm missing and I can't figure it out.  I've been
> struggling with this for a couple days now, and I'm ready to give up.  Can
> someone please enlighten me?
>
> Thanks!!!
>
> Best,
>
> Douglas.
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> I sort of got my mergeSort program to work, but the problem is that the
> algorithm isn't really mergeSort at all!  It uses merge, but my algorithm
> is iterative rather than recursive, so it's not really a mergeSort.  It's a
> merge-something, but not true mergeSort.  Oh well.  Any suggestions?
> Thanks!
>
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From shekay at pobox.com  Mon Jun 15 20:16:26 2015
From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 13:16:26 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] provide description for May meeting
Message-ID: <CAHCs_raDhxfOSaibKwLy5GiNnBY-hpjKieSSwwfVPc-md9YAvQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I'd like to have an accurate description for the May meeting video for when
I add it to pyvideo.

I'd like for someone to create a markdown with a list of talks and speakers
and a link to the timecode in youtube for where each talk starts. You can
post it here, or in a gist and link it here: <
https://github.com/pyvideo/pyvideo/issues/111>.

I'll wait for this for a bit, and otherwise will just post the video with a
generic description about a language shootout.

-- 
shekay at pobox.com
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From jcalahor at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 15 20:41:46 2015
From: jcalahor at yahoo.com (Jimmy Calahorrano)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 11:41:46 -0700
Subject: [Chicago] provide description for May meeting
In-Reply-To: <CAHCs_raDhxfOSaibKwLy5GiNnBY-hpjKieSSwwfVPc-md9YAvQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1434393706.88117.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web181704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

i still own you that description give me this week pls to complete sorry the delay.



Enviado desde Yahoo Mail en Android

De:"sheila miguez" <shekay at pobox.com>
Fecha:lun, jun 15, PM a 1:17 PM
Asunto:[Chicago] provide description for May meeting

Hi all,


I'd like to have an accurate description for the May meeting video for when I add it to pyvideo.

I'd like for someone to create a markdown with a list of talks and speakers and a link to the timecode in youtube for where each talk starts. You can post it here, or in a gist and link it here: <https://github.com/pyvideo/pyvideo/issues/111>.

I'll wait for this for a bit, and otherwise will just post the video with a generic description about a language shootout.


-- 

shekay at pobox.com

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From proba at allstate.com  Mon Jun 15 20:58:08 2015
From: proba at allstate.com (Robare, Phillip (Randstant))
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 18:58:08 +0000
Subject: [Chicago] Problems with Merge Sort???
In-Reply-To: <CAPdZZGwZe_7MSY5kWWtTG=utFYVpqE-7p8uSosC3qgQMPPJevw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPHZ0C2-2TbVvUpxqYERvS6aQvyacAQ+UAenAjj4fHvHgRoMJA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <50869A74BA4F07468AD797C9BFF1FE3E04336C08@A0185-XPO1026-C.ad.allstate.com>

On Monday, June 15, 2015 10:02 AM, Lewit, Douglas wrote:
?It took me a lot of time to figure it out!  The merge method wasn't really that hard for me.  But getting merge sort to work properly was definitely a challenge.?

That is one of the reasons why your professors have you doing basic algorithms.  Not only do you need to know the theory behind them to properly do advanced work you have to learn to embrace the challenge and learn how to test and debug and eventually triumph.

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From randy7771026 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 16 01:17:49 2015
From: randy7771026 at gmail.com (Randy Baxley)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 18:17:49 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] My strange mind has me thinking Re: provide description
 for May meeting
Message-ID: <CAMqL=ijC0S6yzpD3YeNk_Sv9SWBO1yksdrcC9GhoaywDUsxoDw@mail.gmail.com>

Beginning points of one talk are cose to end points of another except for
last.  Is there a way from Django to say feed only the talk for one
language from that information.  If so then of course it would also apply
to a trip planner and the CTA "L" videos.

Merchandise Mart (http://youtu.be/fJzhNPKtR0Q?t=47m21s)

to say:

Rockwell (http://youtu.be/fJzhNPKtR0Q?t=1h16m20s)

Would be a neat one.




On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 1:16 PM, sheila miguez <shekay at pobox.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'd like to have an accurate description for the May meeting video for
> when I add it to pyvideo.
>
> I'd like for someone to create a markdown with a list of talks and
> speakers and a link to the timecode in youtube for where each talk starts.
> You can post it here, or in a gist and link it here: <
> https://github.com/pyvideo/pyvideo/issues/111>.
>
> I'll wait for this for a bit, and otherwise will just post the video with
> a generic description about a language shootout.
>
> --
> shekay at pobox.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
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From d-lewit at neiu.edu  Tue Jun 16 05:55:42 2015
From: d-lewit at neiu.edu (Lewit, Douglas)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 22:55:42 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Now I get it.
Message-ID: <CAPdZZGxqdU=k_rAqWxKvnQ+Vk5KSKn8aMzFwdXi5xeEegEfRDQ@mail.gmail.com>

if __name__ = "__main__":
       etc.
       etc.
       etc.

Now I get it.  Do you want to just import the methods from your .py file?
Or do you want to actually run the program directly?  Cool stuff!

Best,

Douglas.

P.S.  Any thoughts on Ruby guys?  I've been messing around with it lately.
Sort of Python-like, but it actually offers more constructs than Python.
For example, Ruby has a do-while loop and Ruby offers two different ways to
represent ranges, one with the upper limit included and the other with the
upper limit excluded--as in Python.  But Ruby has a very "Pythonic" feel to
it.
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From wesclemens at gmail.com  Tue Jun 16 06:29:49 2015
From: wesclemens at gmail.com (William E. S. Clemens)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 23:29:49 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Now I get it.
In-Reply-To: <CAPdZZGxqdU=k_rAqWxKvnQ+Vk5KSKn8aMzFwdXi5xeEegEfRDQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPdZZGxqdU=k_rAqWxKvnQ+Vk5KSKn8aMzFwdXi5xeEegEfRDQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOo02k8VxAYgwGR1urJg3i4F3+s2WckNzjk+sSOFgWZQVroWhQ@mail.gmail.com>

Although Python does lack some classic control flows notably do-while and
switch-case, it offers plenty of other uniq control flows. I often use a
else statement with a for loop. Python also offers list and
dictionary comprehension.

https://docs.python.org/3.5/tutorial/controlflow.html
https://docs.python.org/2/tutorial/datastructures.html#list-comprehensions

I would also suggest that you can easily implement a do-while like such:

while True:
    pass # Do Stuff

    if condition: break # Our do statement


Switch-cases are a little tricky. Most the time a if ... elif ... else
works just fine, although this is a bit limiting if you want to use a fall
through condition. A neat trick that you can do with python is use a
dictionary as a switch-case.

def foo():
   print("foo")

def bar():
   print("bar")

def baz():
   print("default baz")

map = {
    "Blue": foo,
    "Red": bar
}

map.get("Red", baz)() # bar
map.get("Yellow", baz)() # default baz

This has the added advantage that you can dynamically build out
the dictionary map.


--
William Clemens
Phone: 847.485.9455
E-mail: wesclemens at gmail.com

On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 10:55 PM, Lewit, Douglas <d-lewit at neiu.edu> wrote:

> if __name__ = "__main__":
>        etc.
>        etc.
>        etc.
>
> Now I get it.  Do you want to just import the methods from your .py file?
> Or do you want to actually run the program directly?  Cool stuff!
>
> Best,
>
> Douglas.
>
> P.S.  Any thoughts on Ruby guys?  I've been messing around with it
> lately.  Sort of Python-like, but it actually offers more constructs than
> Python.  For example, Ruby has a do-while loop and Ruby offers two
> different ways to represent ranges, one with the upper limit included and
> the other with the upper limit excluded--as in Python.  But Ruby has a very
> "Pythonic" feel to it.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>
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From d-lewit at neiu.edu  Tue Jun 16 14:18:36 2015
From: d-lewit at neiu.edu (Lewit, Douglas)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 07:18:36 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Now I get it.
In-Reply-To: <CAOo02k8VxAYgwGR1urJg3i4F3+s2WckNzjk+sSOFgWZQVroWhQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPdZZGxqdU=k_rAqWxKvnQ+Vk5KSKn8aMzFwdXi5xeEegEfRDQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAOo02k8VxAYgwGR1urJg3i4F3+s2WckNzjk+sSOFgWZQVroWhQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPdZZGyWBwAhWQMemS3X3vZ7rgjtjTByJaRSNO6fSeaGUwXW-A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi William,

That's really interesting.  I've used "*map*" before, but never used "*map.get(
)*" before.  What does "*map.get( )*" do?  Thanks for the feedback!

Doug.

P.S.  I agree about those comprehensions.  They are definitely very nice!
But I think Python programmers should be cautious when using them.  If you
overdo the comprehensions, then the code becomes really obscure and
difficult to trace through.  That's just my humble opinion.  Your mileage
may vary.

On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 11:29 PM, William E. S. Clemens <
wesclemens at gmail.com> wrote:

> Although Python does lack some classic control flows notably do-while and
> switch-case, it offers plenty of other uniq control flows. I often use a
> else statement with a for loop. Python also offers list and
> dictionary comprehension.
>
> https://docs.python.org/3.5/tutorial/controlflow.html
> https://docs.python.org/2/tutorial/datastructures.html#list-comprehensions
>
> I would also suggest that you can easily implement a do-while like such:
>
> while True:
>     pass # Do Stuff
>
>     if condition: break # Our do statement
>
>
> Switch-cases are a little tricky. Most the time a if ... elif ... else
> works just fine, although this is a bit limiting if you want to use a fall
> through condition. A neat trick that you can do with python is use a
> dictionary as a switch-case.
>
> def foo():
>    print("foo")
>
> def bar():
>    print("bar")
>
> def baz():
>    print("default baz")
>
> map = {
>     "Blue": foo,
>     "Red": bar
> }
>
> map.get("Red", baz)() # bar
> map.get("Yellow", baz)() # default baz
>
> This has the added advantage that you can dynamically build out
> the dictionary map.
>
>
> --
> William Clemens
> Phone: 847.485.9455
> E-mail: wesclemens at gmail.com
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 10:55 PM, Lewit, Douglas <d-lewit at neiu.edu> wrote:
>
>> if __name__ = "__main__":
>>        etc.
>>        etc.
>>        etc.
>>
>> Now I get it.  Do you want to just import the methods from your .py
>> file?  Or do you want to actually run the program directly?  Cool stuff!
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Douglas.
>>
>> P.S.  Any thoughts on Ruby guys?  I've been messing around with it
>> lately.  Sort of Python-like, but it actually offers more constructs than
>> Python.  For example, Ruby has a do-while loop and Ruby offers two
>> different ways to represent ranges, one with the upper limit included and
>> the other with the upper limit excluded--as in Python.  But Ruby has a very
>> "Pythonic" feel to it.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
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From labeledloser at gmail.com  Tue Jun 16 16:00:00 2015
From: labeledloser at gmail.com (Hector Rios)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 09:00:00 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Now I get it.
In-Reply-To: <CAPdZZGyWBwAhWQMemS3X3vZ7rgjtjTByJaRSNO6fSeaGUwXW-A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPdZZGxqdU=k_rAqWxKvnQ+Vk5KSKn8aMzFwdXi5xeEegEfRDQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAOo02k8VxAYgwGR1urJg3i4F3+s2WckNzjk+sSOFgWZQVroWhQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CA+X0G_C1xm5+Mf06ypBBXAdpNM6Ez3XE8oMj=uqpF5gzzqQOag@mail.gmail.com>

Douglas,

I've been alternating between Ruby and Python for some time now and I can
just say this: each language is great in it's own way.

My personal preference is Ruby, though. Ruby makes more "sense" to me. The
syntax, the philosophy, the testing -- everything just makes more sense to
me.

Python is simple in a sense that you can do something one way, where as
Ruby has many ways of doing things. However, I believe that things can be
accomplished in a variety of different ways, which is why Ruby feels more
natural to me.

That said, Python is a beautiful language with many great things going for
it. I believe that it is a great language for everyone to use, and I
encourage people to learn it.


{
    "name": "Hector Rios",
    "title": "Software Developer",
    "contact": {
            "linkedin": "hrios10",
            "gmail": "labeledloser",
            "site": "http://hectron.github.io/"
    }
}

*No trees were killed to send this message, but a large number of electrons
were terribly inconvenienced.*

On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 7:18 AM, Lewit, Douglas <d-lewit at neiu.edu> wrote:

> Hi William,
>
> That's really interesting.  I've used "*map*" before, but never used "*map.get(
> )*" before.  What does "*map.get( )*" do?  Thanks for the feedback!
>
> Doug.
>
> P.S.  I agree about those comprehensions.  They are definitely very nice!
> But I think Python programmers should be cautious when using them.  If you
> overdo the comprehensions, then the code becomes really obscure and
> difficult to trace through.  That's just my humble opinion.  Your mileage
> may vary.
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 11:29 PM, William E. S. Clemens <
> wesclemens at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Although Python does lack some classic control flows notably do-while and
>> switch-case, it offers plenty of other uniq control flows. I often use a
>> else statement with a for loop. Python also offers list and
>> dictionary comprehension.
>>
>> https://docs.python.org/3.5/tutorial/controlflow.html
>> https://docs.python.org/2/tutorial/datastructures.html#list-comprehensions
>>
>> I would also suggest that you can easily implement a do-while like such:
>>
>> while True:
>>     pass # Do Stuff
>>
>>     if condition: break # Our do statement
>>
>>
>> Switch-cases are a little tricky. Most the time a if ... elif ... else
>> works just fine, although this is a bit limiting if you want to use a fall
>> through condition. A neat trick that you can do with python is use a
>> dictionary as a switch-case.
>>
>> def foo():
>>    print("foo")
>>
>> def bar():
>>    print("bar")
>>
>> def baz():
>>    print("default baz")
>>
>> map = {
>>     "Blue": foo,
>>     "Red": bar
>> }
>>
>> map.get("Red", baz)() # bar
>> map.get("Yellow", baz)() # default baz
>>
>> This has the added advantage that you can dynamically build out
>> the dictionary map.
>>
>>
>> --
>> William Clemens
>> Phone: 847.485.9455
>> E-mail: wesclemens at gmail.com
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 10:55 PM, Lewit, Douglas <d-lewit at neiu.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> if __name__ = "__main__":
>>>        etc.
>>>        etc.
>>>        etc.
>>>
>>> Now I get it.  Do you want to just import the methods from your .py
>>> file?  Or do you want to actually run the program directly?  Cool stuff!
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Douglas.
>>>
>>> P.S.  Any thoughts on Ruby guys?  I've been messing around with it
>>> lately.  Sort of Python-like, but it actually offers more constructs than
>>> Python.  For example, Ruby has a do-while loop and Ruby offers two
>>> different ways to represent ranges, one with the upper limit included and
>>> the other with the upper limit excluded--as in Python.  But Ruby has a very
>>> "Pythonic" feel to it.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Chicago mailing list
>>> Chicago at python.org
>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>
>>
>
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From davidkentsutton at gmail.com  Tue Jun 16 16:07:48 2015
From: davidkentsutton at gmail.com (David Sutton)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 09:07:48 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Now I get it.
In-Reply-To: <CA+X0G_C1xm5+Mf06ypBBXAdpNM6Ez3XE8oMj=uqpF5gzzqQOag@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPdZZGxqdU=k_rAqWxKvnQ+Vk5KSKn8aMzFwdXi5xeEegEfRDQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAH_UcQKWGdZxss-nFXZW65XeFAx4JRi3CDYdoHnxS1cTZQ3PyQ@mail.gmail.com>

"That's really interesting.  I've used "*map*" before, but never used
"*map.get(
)*" before.  What does "*map.get( )*" do?  Thanks for the feedback!"


I think you're confusing the 'map' function with the '(hash)map' data type
(also known as dictionary).

If you create a dictionary like so:

foo = {"bar": "baz"}

You can retrieve the value using either foo['bar'] for foo.get('bar'). Now
if you tried to retrieve a value that didn't exist such like foo['qux'] you
would get a KeyError. To avoid running into that key error you can use the
get method and call something like foo.get('qux'), which would return null
because the 'qux' key is not in the dictionary. If you wanted any failed
look up to return something non-null you can provide the default as a
second argument to the get method. eg foo.get('qux', 'my_default').

In the ruby world this is the same as using the '.fetch' method on a Hash.

On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Hector Rios <labeledloser at gmail.com> wrote:

> Douglas,
>
> I've been alternating between Ruby and Python for some time now and I can
> just say this: each language is great in it's own way.
>
> My personal preference is Ruby, though. Ruby makes more "sense" to me. The
> syntax, the philosophy, the testing -- everything just makes more sense to
> me.
>
> Python is simple in a sense that you can do something one way, where as
> Ruby has many ways of doing things. However, I believe that things can be
> accomplished in a variety of different ways, which is why Ruby feels more
> natural to me.
>
> That said, Python is a beautiful language with many great things going for
> it. I believe that it is a great language for everyone to use, and I
> encourage people to learn it.
>
>
> {
>     "name": "Hector Rios",
>     "title": "Software Developer",
>     "contact": {
>             "linkedin": "hrios10",
>             "gmail": "labeledloser",
>             "site": "http://hectron.github.io/"
>     }
> }
>
> *No trees were killed to send this message, but a large number of
> electrons were terribly inconvenienced.*
>
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 7:18 AM, Lewit, Douglas <d-lewit at neiu.edu> wrote:
>
>> Hi William,
>>
>> That's really interesting.  I've used "*map*" before, but never used "*map.get(
>> )*" before.  What does "*map.get( )*" do?  Thanks for the feedback!
>>
>> Doug.
>>
>> P.S.  I agree about those comprehensions.  They are definitely very
>> nice!  But I think Python programmers should be cautious when using them.
>> If you overdo the comprehensions, then the code becomes really obscure and
>> difficult to trace through.  That's just my humble opinion.  Your mileage
>> may vary.
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 11:29 PM, William E. S. Clemens <
>> wesclemens at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Although Python does lack some classic control flows notably do-while
>>> and switch-case, it offers plenty of other uniq control flows. I often use
>>> a else statement with a for loop. Python also offers list and
>>> dictionary comprehension.
>>>
>>> https://docs.python.org/3.5/tutorial/controlflow.html
>>>
>>> https://docs.python.org/2/tutorial/datastructures.html#list-comprehensions
>>>
>>> I would also suggest that you can easily implement a do-while like such:
>>>
>>> while True:
>>>     pass # Do Stuff
>>>
>>>     if condition: break # Our do statement
>>>
>>>
>>> Switch-cases are a little tricky. Most the time a if ... elif ... else
>>> works just fine, although this is a bit limiting if you want to use a fall
>>> through condition. A neat trick that you can do with python is use a
>>> dictionary as a switch-case.
>>>
>>> def foo():
>>>    print("foo")
>>>
>>> def bar():
>>>    print("bar")
>>>
>>> def baz():
>>>    print("default baz")
>>>
>>> map = {
>>>     "Blue": foo,
>>>     "Red": bar
>>> }
>>>
>>> map.get("Red", baz)() # bar
>>> map.get("Yellow", baz)() # default baz
>>>
>>> This has the added advantage that you can dynamically build out
>>> the dictionary map.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> William Clemens
>>> Phone: 847.485.9455
>>> E-mail: wesclemens at gmail.com
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 10:55 PM, Lewit, Douglas <d-lewit at neiu.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> if __name__ = "__main__":
>>>>        etc.
>>>>        etc.
>>>>        etc.
>>>>
>>>> Now I get it.  Do you want to just import the methods from your .py
>>>> file?  Or do you want to actually run the program directly?  Cool stuff!
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Douglas.
>>>>
>>>> P.S.  Any thoughts on Ruby guys?  I've been messing around with it
>>>> lately.  Sort of Python-like, but it actually offers more constructs than
>>>> Python.  For example, Ruby has a do-while loop and Ruby offers two
>>>> different ways to represent ranges, one with the upper limit included and
>>>> the other with the upper limit excluded--as in Python.  But Ruby has a very
>>>> "Pythonic" feel to it.
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Chicago mailing list
>>>> Chicago at python.org
>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Chicago mailing list
>>> Chicago at python.org
>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>
>>
>
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From wesclemens at gmail.com  Tue Jun 16 16:40:55 2015
From: wesclemens at gmail.com (William E. S. Clemens)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 09:40:55 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Now I get it.
In-Reply-To: <CAPdZZGyWBwAhWQMemS3X3vZ7rgjtjTByJaRSNO6fSeaGUwXW-A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPdZZGxqdU=k_rAqWxKvnQ+Vk5KSKn8aMzFwdXi5xeEegEfRDQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAOo02k8VxAYgwGR1urJg3i4F3+s2WckNzjk+sSOFgWZQVroWhQ@mail.gmail.com>
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I have to apologize, when I wrote my response yesterday I picked "map" as a
variable name. There is a class named "map" that is in the default
namespace. It does work but its a really bad practice to overwrite things
in the default namespace.

--
William Clemens
Phone: 847.485.9455
E-mail: wesclemens at gmail.com

On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 7:18 AM, Lewit, Douglas <d-lewit at neiu.edu> wrote:

> Hi William,
>
> That's really interesting.  I've used "*map*" before, but never used "*map.get(
> )*" before.  What does "*map.get( )*" do?  Thanks for the feedback!
>
> Doug.
>
> P.S.  I agree about those comprehensions.  They are definitely very nice!
> But I think Python programmers should be cautious when using them.  If you
> overdo the comprehensions, then the code becomes really obscure and
> difficult to trace through.  That's just my humble opinion.  Your mileage
> may vary.
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 11:29 PM, William E. S. Clemens <
> wesclemens at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Although Python does lack some classic control flows notably do-while and
>> switch-case, it offers plenty of other uniq control flows. I often use a
>> else statement with a for loop. Python also offers list and
>> dictionary comprehension.
>>
>> https://docs.python.org/3.5/tutorial/controlflow.html
>> https://docs.python.org/2/tutorial/datastructures.html#list-comprehensions
>>
>> I would also suggest that you can easily implement a do-while like such:
>>
>> while True:
>>     pass # Do Stuff
>>
>>     if condition: break # Our do statement
>>
>>
>> Switch-cases are a little tricky. Most the time a if ... elif ... else
>> works just fine, although this is a bit limiting if you want to use a fall
>> through condition. A neat trick that you can do with python is use a
>> dictionary as a switch-case.
>>
>> def foo():
>>    print("foo")
>>
>> def bar():
>>    print("bar")
>>
>> def baz():
>>    print("default baz")
>>
>> map = {
>>     "Blue": foo,
>>     "Red": bar
>> }
>>
>> map.get("Red", baz)() # bar
>> map.get("Yellow", baz)() # default baz
>>
>> This has the added advantage that you can dynamically build out
>> the dictionary map.
>>
>>
>> --
>> William Clemens
>> Phone: 847.485.9455
>> E-mail: wesclemens at gmail.com
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 10:55 PM, Lewit, Douglas <d-lewit at neiu.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> if __name__ = "__main__":
>>>        etc.
>>>        etc.
>>>        etc.
>>>
>>> Now I get it.  Do you want to just import the methods from your .py
>>> file?  Or do you want to actually run the program directly?  Cool stuff!
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Douglas.
>>>
>>> P.S.  Any thoughts on Ruby guys?  I've been messing around with it
>>> lately.  Sort of Python-like, but it actually offers more constructs than
>>> Python.  For example, Ruby has a do-while loop and Ruby offers two
>>> different ways to represent ranges, one with the upper limit included and
>>> the other with the upper limit excluded--as in Python.  But Ruby has a very
>>> "Pythonic" feel to it.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Chicago mailing list
>>> Chicago at python.org
>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>
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From tim.saylor at gmail.com  Wed Jun 17 02:54:38 2015
From: tim.saylor at gmail.com (Tim Saylor)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 19:54:38 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Podcasts
In-Reply-To: <CABdKVNiJBX-iuiuX2BV+bPzUox2LpC+cJJS-m76QgHb5TuyiLA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAB32_MN4O1TJ+MWrXh=QBCA73o=kvDmx+Xu6_1_BMz1g+5ib=A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABdKVNiJBX-iuiuX2BV+bPzUox2LpC+cJJS-m76QgHb5TuyiLA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAM1yh5VrfGF5HGrWK2A9gcVOoQuukXq3yq7B5c7LiofuumhYaw@mail.gmail.com>

> Can someone recommend a simple, stable podcast player for Android ?

I'm using Pocket Casts and it's working great for me.

On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Rob Kapteyn <robkapteyn at gmail.com> wrote:

> By far my favorite:
>
> FLOSS Weekly.  (Free Libre Open Source Software)
> http://twit.tv/show/floss-weekly
>
> 280 episodes since 2006.
>
> So much stuff there it is hard to list.
> There is a interview with Guido, and interviews of some of our ChiPy
> people.
>
> On a related subject --
> Can someone recommend a simple, stable podcast player for Android ?
> I haven't found a player I'm happy with since I ditched iOS and OSX for
> Android and Linux.
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 10:04 AM, Tathagata Dasgupta <
> tathagatadg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Happy weekend ChiPy ...
>> I am a big fan of podcasts and have subscribed to more than what I can
>> make time for.
>> TalkPython and Podcast.__init__ are two Python specific podcasts that I
>> have really enjoyed. (Like TalkPython better)
>>
>> Which podcasts do you guys subscribe to?
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> T
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>
>>
>
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From randy7771026 at gmail.com  Wed Jun 17 06:47:47 2015
From: randy7771026 at gmail.com (Randy Baxley)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 23:47:47 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Podcasts
In-Reply-To: <CAM1yh5VrfGF5HGrWK2A9gcVOoQuukXq3yq7B5c7LiofuumhYaw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAB32_MN4O1TJ+MWrXh=QBCA73o=kvDmx+Xu6_1_BMz1g+5ib=A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABdKVNiJBX-iuiuX2BV+bPzUox2LpC+cJJS-m76QgHb5TuyiLA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAM1yh5VrfGF5HGrWK2A9gcVOoQuukXq3yq7B5c7LiofuumhYaw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMqL=ih7ruJiBpXN-Au33vV0FA2LY1VgGX9f=0Sz+JpMOgeusw@mail.gmail.com>

Yhere are also severak apps for Andruid listed on the apps page of the twit
gloss podcast Rob mentionr,  I should get an andriud device for testin
redponsive pades in the myHPD app amy ideas for one that might also be used
for js, css, bootstrap, ajax and python development,

On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Tim Saylor <tim.saylor at gmail.com> wrote:

> > Can someone recommend a simple, stable podcast player for Android ?
>
> I'm using Pocket Casts and it's working great for me.
>
> On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Rob Kapteyn <robkapteyn at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> By far my favorite:
>>
>> FLOSS Weekly.  (Free Libre Open Source Software)
>> http://twit.tv/show/floss-weekly
>>
>> 280 episodes since 2006.
>>
>> So much stuff there it is hard to list.
>> There is a interview with Guido, and interviews of some of our ChiPy
>> people.
>>
>> On a related subject --
>> Can someone recommend a simple, stable podcast player for Android ?
>> I haven't found a player I'm happy with since I ditched iOS and OSX for
>> Android and Linux.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 10:04 AM, Tathagata Dasgupta <
>> tathagatadg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Happy weekend ChiPy ...
>>> I am a big fan of podcasts and have subscribed to more than what I can
>>> make time for.
>>> TalkPython and Podcast.__init__ are two Python specific podcasts that I
>>> have really enjoyed. (Like TalkPython better)
>>>
>>> Which podcasts do you guys subscribe to?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cheers,
>>> T
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Chicago mailing list
>>> Chicago at python.org
>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Chicago at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
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From me at lorenamesa.com  Wed Jun 17 16:58:30 2015
From: me at lorenamesa.com (Lorena Mesa)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 09:58:30 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Help needed - mentors that are passionate about Python
	open source!
Message-ID: <CAE4oyeXgVpcOSmLV9asc6gAmY31fdQVTUf69+NGw_ZObBM+_tA@mail.gmail.com>

PyLadies and Write/Speak/Code are organizing an Open Source Python workshop
on July 25th and we need your help! More specifically, we need
recommendations for your favorite projects you contribute to or your
favorite tools you use! Also, if you're a contributor, project owner, etc
of an open source project we're looking for mentors to hang out from 12 -
4pm or so at the workshop.

Email me back and I can answer any questions you may have or provide more
information.

Thanks ChiPy,

Lorena :D

-- 
___________________________________________________________________________________
Lorena Mesa
*www.lorenamesa.com <http://www.lorenamesa.com/>*

"If you wish to make apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the
universe," - Carl Sagan

Please stop
 before printing this email unnecessarily, *think green*!!!
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From shekay at pobox.com  Wed Jun 17 20:58:49 2015
From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 13:58:49 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Looking for volunteer Python code reviewers
Message-ID: <CAHCs_raSYMqmDp9hFCQbPgwRYwJpzyHxktE8sAWmk83KDpceog@mail.gmail.com>

Hi everyone,

Kathy Flint has a nonprofit with some interns writing python code this
summer. She is looking for a few people to volunteer a few hours a week to
help review the interns' code and provide feedback on what they are doing.
I met her at an electronics workshop at ps1, so she is familiar with pyoo.

Let her know if you are interested!

I'm looking for a volunteer Python code reviewer...
>
> My nonprofit Northbridge Technology Alliance has two interns this summer
> working on a modest Python app. I myself am not a Python expert. So I'm
> looking for some eyes to have a look over what the team is producing. Also,
> the team is eager for feedback.
>
> Would anyone here enjoy doing a Python code review? Maybe 2-4 hour
> commitment or so.
>
> Thanks for your consideration!
>
> Kathy Flint
> kathy.flint at northbridgetech.org
> http://northbridgetech.org
>
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From tottinge at gmail.com  Wed Jun 17 23:11:07 2015
From: tottinge at gmail.com (Tim Ottinger)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 16:11:07 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Looking for volunteer Python code reviewers
In-Reply-To: <CAHCs_raSYMqmDp9hFCQbPgwRYwJpzyHxktE8sAWmk83KDpceog@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHCs_raSYMqmDp9hFCQbPgwRYwJpzyHxktE8sAWmk83KDpceog@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAN2NStkMrynKQKHrOt9ae1Nts4=PVHcMoOx-HRJ3q8pQBb00dg@mail.gmail.com>

I could put in an hour or two each week.

If I were to find some really great recurring issues, would I be able to
use them in training classes or articles (anonymized, of course)?

On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 1:58 PM, sheila miguez <shekay at pobox.com> wrote:

>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Kathy Flint has a nonprofit with some interns writing python code this
> summer. She is looking for a few people to volunteer a few hours a week to
> help review the interns' code and provide feedback on what they are doing.
> I met her at an electronics workshop at ps1, so she is familiar with pyoo.
>
> Let her know if you are interested!
>
> I'm looking for a volunteer Python code reviewer...
>>
>> My nonprofit Northbridge Technology Alliance has two interns this summer
>> working on a modest Python app. I myself am not a Python expert. So I'm
>> looking for some eyes to have a look over what the team is producing. Also,
>> the team is eager for feedback.
>>
>> Would anyone here enjoy doing a Python code review? Maybe 2-4 hour
>> commitment or so.
>>
>> Thanks for your consideration!
>>
>> Kathy Flint
>> kathy.flint at northbridgetech.org
>> http://northbridgetech.org
>>
> --
> shekay at pobox.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>
>


-- 
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-------------------------------------
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From shekay at pobox.com  Wed Jun 17 23:16:26 2015
From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 16:16:26 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Looking for volunteer Python code reviewers
In-Reply-To: <CAN2NStkMrynKQKHrOt9ae1Nts4=PVHcMoOx-HRJ3q8pQBb00dg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHCs_raSYMqmDp9hFCQbPgwRYwJpzyHxktE8sAWmk83KDpceog@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAN2NStkMrynKQKHrOt9ae1Nts4=PVHcMoOx-HRJ3q8pQBb00dg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHCs_rb21akROXvih4adk+mpapqk0BRTTRwaZHz2KPHvBgeMOA@mail.gmail.com>

Hopefully? Get in touch with Kathy to see if she likes the idea.

On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 4:11 PM, Tim Ottinger <tottinge at gmail.com> wrote:

> I could put in an hour or two each week.
>
> If I were to find some really great recurring issues, would I be able to
> use them in training classes or articles (anonymized, of course)?
>
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 1:58 PM, sheila miguez <shekay at pobox.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> Kathy Flint has a nonprofit with some interns writing python code this
>> summer. She is looking for a few people to volunteer a few hours a week to
>> help review the interns' code and provide feedback on what they are doing.
>> I met her at an electronics workshop at ps1, so she is familiar with pyoo.
>>
>> Let her know if you are interested!
>>
>> I'm looking for a volunteer Python code reviewer...
>>>
>>> My nonprofit Northbridge Technology Alliance has two interns this summer
>>> working on a modest Python app. I myself am not a Python expert. So I'm
>>> looking for some eyes to have a look over what the team is producing. Also,
>>> the team is eager for feedback.
>>>
>>> Would anyone here enjoy doing a Python code review? Maybe 2-4 hour
>>> commitment or so.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your consideration!
>>>
>>> Kathy Flint
>>> kathy.flint at northbridgetech.org
>>> http://northbridgetech.org
>>>
>> --
>> shekay at pobox.com
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chicago mailing list
>> Chicago at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Tim Ottinger, Anzeneer, Industrial Logic
> -------------------------------------
> http://www.industriallogic.com/
> http://agileotter.blogspot.com/
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>
>


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From pdp7pdp7 at gmail.com  Thu Jun 25 21:00:01 2015
From: pdp7pdp7 at gmail.com (Drew Fustini)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 14:00:01 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] LWN.net: Micro Python on the pyboard
Message-ID: <CAEf4M_A3icZUvEAmuWxSXjExpP+Aoe29Ork1C=ESo+dX5t2yGA@mail.gmail.com>

I thought this might be of interest:

Micro Python on the pyboard [LWN.net]
http://lwn.net/Articles/648051/

"The key to running Python on a microcontroller (such as the STM32F405
used on the pyboard) is to keep memory usage low while still providing
good performance. The footprint for Micro Python is 260KB"


cheers,
drew

From randy7771026 at gmail.com  Sun Jun 28 21:11:02 2015
From: randy7771026 at gmail.com (Randy Baxley)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 14:11:02 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Python class at Freegeek
Message-ID: <CAMqL=ignPMTfhnv__RAo8zPCkFunSvh_+2AdLxSxhQg=jR5B4g@mail.gmail.com>

A bit late notice but is supposed tp repeat once a month.

Class will introduce python and have participants leave with one simple
program completed.

*FreeGeek Chicago* ?@*freegeekchicago* <https://twitter.com/freegeekchicago>
3h3 hours ago
<https://twitter.com/freegeekchicago/status/615195783076278273>

Our basic Python coding class is TODAY! We hope to see you all!!! Remember,
we are located at 3411 W Diversey Ave. Class starts at 3pm!
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From d-lewit at neiu.edu  Mon Jun 29 02:51:12 2015
From: d-lewit at neiu.edu (Lewit, Douglas)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 19:51:12 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Python class at Freegeek
In-Reply-To: <CAMqL=ignPMTfhnv__RAo8zPCkFunSvh_+2AdLxSxhQg=jR5B4g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMqL=ignPMTfhnv__RAo8zPCkFunSvh_+2AdLxSxhQg=jR5B4g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPdZZGxaNWRf0TQysiYLXATwv1_w9VDX2daHYxo4Pu4-Emw4+A@mail.gmail.com>

Oh man!!!  Why didn't I hear about this earlier?   :-(   Oh well, that's
okay.  I needed a day of rest.  I hope the class went well.

On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Randy Baxley <randy7771026 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> A bit late notice but is supposed tp repeat once a month.
>
> Class will introduce python and have participants leave with one simple
> program completed.
>
> *FreeGeek Chicago* ?@*freegeekchicago*
> <https://twitter.com/freegeekchicago> 3h3 hours ago
> <https://twitter.com/freegeekchicago/status/615195783076278273>
>
> Our basic Python coding class is TODAY! We hope to see you all!!!
> Remember, we are located at 3411 W Diversey Ave. Class starts at 3pm!
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago mailing list
> Chicago at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago
>
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From michaelreinhard at me.com  Mon Jun 29 04:21:17 2015
From: michaelreinhard at me.com (MICHAEL REINHARD)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 21:21:17 -0500
Subject: [Chicago] Python class at Freegeek
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Yeah, it sounds really great. I am looking forward to it next month. Thanks!
> On Jun 28, 2015, at 7:51 PM, Lewit, Douglas <d-lewit at neiu.edu> wrote:
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> Oh man!!!  Why didn't I hear about this earlier?   :-(   Oh well, that's okay.  I needed a day of rest.  I hope the class went well.
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> On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Randy Baxley <randy7771026 at gmail.com <mailto:randy7771026 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> A bit late notice but is supposed tp repeat once a month.
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> Class will introduce python and have participants leave with one simple program completed.
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> FreeGeek Chicago ?@freegeekchicago  <https://twitter.com/freegeekchicago>3h3 hours ago <https://twitter.com/freegeekchicago/status/615195783076278273>
> Our basic Python coding class is TODAY! We hope to see you all!!! Remember, we are located at 3411 W Diversey Ave. Class starts at 3pm!
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