[Chicago] Is pypi.python.org really running with a self-signed cert?

[Robare, Phillip (Randstant)]

I was trying to get my environment set up on a new work computer (Cygwin with cygwin's python 2.7 under Windows) so I downloaded and ran ez_setup.py.  It errored on a line where it calls curl to download setuptools.  I pulled the line out and ran it from the command line without the -silent parameter.  

$ curl https://pypi.python.org/packages/source/s/setuptools/setuptools-12.3.zip 
  % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time     Time  Current
                                 Dload  Upload   Total   Spent    Left  Speed
  0     0    0     0    0     0      0      0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:--     0
curl: (60) SSL certificate problem: unable to get local issuer certificate
More details here: http://curl.haxx.se/docs/sslcerts.html

curl performs SSL certificate verification by default, using a "bundle"
 of Certificate Authority (CA) public keys (CA certs). If the default
 bundle file isn't adequate, you can specify an alternate file
 using the --cacert option.
If this HTTPS server uses a certificate signed by a CA represented in
 the bundle, the certificate verification probably failed due to a
 problem with the certificate (it might be expired, or the name might
 not match the domain name in the URL).
If you'd like to turn off curl's verification of the certificate, use
 the -k (or --insecure) option.

Some weirdness with Cygwin?  So I tried it with insecure mode.

$ curl --insecure https://pypi.python.org/packages/source/s/setuptools/setuptools-12.3.zip 
  % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time     Time  Current
                                 Dload  Upload   Total   Spent    Left  Speed
  0     0    0     0    0     0      0      0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:--     0
curl: (56) SSL read: error:00000000:lib(0):func(0):reason(0), errno 104

Not much more enlightening.  So I tried wget.

$ wget https://pypi.python.org/packages/source/s/setuptools/setuptools-12.3.zip --2015-03-05 16:17:06--  https://pypi.python.org/packages/source/s/setuptools/setuptools-12.3.zip
Resolving pypi.python.org (pypi.python.org)... 23.235.40.223
Connecting to pypi.python.org (pypi.python.org)|23.235.40.223|:443... connected.
ERROR: The certificate of 'pypi.python.org' is not trusted.
ERROR: The certificate of 'pypi.python.org' hasn't got a known issuer.

Does anyone else have a problem with pypi's certificate?  Or a work-around for getting ez_install to run?

Thanks,

Phil Robare