From allan2600 at gmail.com Fri Oct 2 05:00:03 2015 From: allan2600 at gmail.com (Allan Spale) Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2015 03:00:03 +0000 Subject: [Chicago] Sympy for Python 3 ??? In-Reply-To: <9C78FFB1-5C19-46AE-B6A6-2C0C28DBE7E2@gmail.com> References: <9C78FFB1-5C19-46AE-B6A6-2C0C28DBE7E2@gmail.com> Message-ID: Could you please refrain from posting references insulting people with special needs. On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 7:22 AM Mike Tamillow wrote: > https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X6WHBO_Qc-Q > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 29, 2015, at 9:51 PM, Lewit, Douglas wrote: > > Hey Will, > > Yep, I know you're right. I gotta do some networking and meet the right > people who can help me with my future plans to become the greatest > programmer in the world! Sarcasm intended. I'll be happy if I can become > the greatest programmer in my neighborhood!!! :-) > > I sometimes have Sundays free, so right now I'm going to try to attend > some of Lane's Sunday Django meetings. Besides, I really NEED to learn > some serious web development. So far all I know is Big-O, sorting, the > knapsack problem, addition algorithm, KNN-algorithm for machine learning, > some divide and conquer stuff, some Unix/Linux stuff, you get the idea. > But networking, security, and web development.... you know, how programmers > really make their living, so far I know very little about that stuff. I > gotta learn the practical stuff in order to get that paycheck. Besides, it > looks fun! > > I promise Will.... I will do my best to attend some meet-ups. I just hope > nobody looks at my programming work and says, "Oh god, there's our little > Python retard!" If I end up becoming the Forrest Gump of ChiPy, I won't > attend any of the meetings!!!! :-) > > > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 9:31 PM, William E. S. Clemens < > wesclemens at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Doug, >> >> I strongly recommend that you make time to come to some events. One of >> biggest strengths of Python is the amazing community behind it. I know >> that there are events on Monday, Wednesday, Thursday and Sunday every >> month. I think that you will find the Chicago group to be extremely >> friendly and helpful. It is a great group of people to know if you are >> looking at getting into professional Python development in Chicago post >> graduation. >> >> Regards, >> Will >> >> -- >> William Clemens >> Phone: 847.485.9455 >> E-mail: wesclemens at gmail.com >> >> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 8:56 PM, Lewit, Douglas wrote: >> >>> Hi Joshua, >>> >>> My first name is Doug or Douglas, NOT Lewit!!!! LOL!!!! >>> >>> It seems like Project Night is usually on a Thursday night, right? >>> Right now my Thursday nights look a little busy. Although I would probably >>> learn more from Project Night than my Informatics professor, but.... he's >>> got that* PhD*, and I guess those three magic letters means he knows >>> everything about computer science, right? :-) >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 8:11 PM, Joshua Herman >> > wrote: >>> >>>> Dear lewit, >>>> When do you have time to go to events like project nights in general ? >>>> Do you live on campus all of the time? What about going on a weekend or >>>> during winter break? >>>> Sincerely >>>> Joshua herman >>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 8:05 PM Lewit, Douglas >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Exactly! I'm a little nervous about changing my $PATH variable >>>>> because I'm definitely NOT a Unix administrator! I mean.... I know the >>>>> basics, like cd, cp, mv, ls, ls -ld -- */, ls | wc -l, and some other cool >>>>> stuff. But changing $PATH is a little scary to me! On the rare occasion >>>>> when I do that stuff, I always use Emacs as my text editor. The great >>>>> thing about Emacs is that when you edit a file, Emacs saves the original >>>>> with a tilde following the name of the file. So if I want to edit bash.rc >>>>> I end up with bash.rc and bash.rc~. If I totally screwed up bash.rc, then >>>>> I just do this: >>>>> >>>>> mv bash.rc~ bash.rc >>>>> >>>>> That restores the previous bash.rc file. It overwrites the messed up >>>>> file with the original correct file. BUT in general I'm very nervous about >>>>> doing system changes like that. I tried doing a dual boot of Ubuntu and >>>>> Kali Linux a while back. Big mistake!!!! I mistakenly deleted the grub >>>>> file and then I was really SCREWED!!!! I had to do a fresh install of >>>>> Ubuntu on my hard drive. That wasn't fun! (Ubuntu is pretty easy to >>>>> install. Kali Linux is NOT easy to install unless you know a lot about >>>>> networking, protocols, and other stuff that is currently beyond my >>>>> knowledge of modern computation.) >>>>> >>>>> I would love to attend a Python Project Night. The problem is that >>>>> those are always scheduled for a Thursday night. That's when I have my >>>>> Informatics class. And since the class meets up once a week, missing a >>>>> class for Python Project Night is probably not a smart move on my part. >>>>> >>>>> Oh hey there Safia! Thanks for writing. Much appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:57 PM, William E. S. Clemens < >>>>> wesclemens at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Os.chdir( ) is not what your looking for you need to add the path for >>>>>> your Anaconda packages to the sys.path list. That being said its generally >>>>>> not a good idea to mess with sys.path unless you know what your doing. It >>>>>> will almost surely break your code portability. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you need help setting up Python I would suggest that you go to >>>>>> Project Night. They are a great group of people and I'm sure they would be >>>>>> more then happy to get you started down the right path. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.meetup.com/ChicagoPythonistas/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> William Clemens >>>>>> Phone: 847.485.9455 >>>>>> E-mail: wesclemens at gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Joshua Herman < >>>>>> zitterbewegung at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> How do people generally learn python? I think I have progressed in >>>>>>> the following manner. >>>>>>> 0. Don't know what python is (First experience was from Carl Karsten >>>>>>> telling me the general syntax rules. >>>>>>> 1. Start by using python script on the command line >>>>>>> 2. Play with IDLE / other IDEs/ Scripting >>>>>>> 4. Use python at school at the compbio laboratory and Alcatel Lucen >>>>>>> 5. Learn what virtualenv is and make them >>>>>>> 6. Learn what ipython is and use ipython >>>>>>> 7. Play with anaconda >>>>>>> 8. I am here >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Python is generally batteries included. Should ipython be a better >>>>>>> starting point for people who install python? I think more scientific/ >>>>>>> financial oriented people are doing the following. >>>>>>> 1. Get exposed to python to apply to work >>>>>>> 2. Use ipython by installing using anaconda and use it in a browser? >>>>>>> possibly you don't even have a local install of python . >>>>>>> Now the person's goals will cause them to make a decision. >>>>>>> ?. Start by using python script on the command line >>>>>>> ?. Play with IDLE / other IDEs/ Scripting >>>>>>> ?. Learn what virtualenv is and make them >>>>>>> ?. Do web development >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think that if more people are doing the second path maybe we >>>>>>> should introduce python the second way instead of the first. For one reason >>>>>>> setting up ipython or some notebook interface on some cloud server is >>>>>>> probably going to become more common. The first way that people seem to >>>>>>> learn python takes much more steps to do interesting things and once a >>>>>>> person is hooked on python then they can learn the other steps. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 12:16 PM, sheila miguez >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Lewit, Douglas >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think my answer was way too long! Sorry! Just trying to >>>>>>>>> explain what's going on. I just wish there was a way that I could get IDLE >>>>>>>>> to access all the modules that Anaconda can access. Not really sure how to >>>>>>>>> do it without tearing apart my operating system. (And I really don't want >>>>>>>>> to do that! ) I must say >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This is where the google it answer is helpful. A lot of times I'll >>>>>>>> have a question like this and will google and see some related stack >>>>>>>> overflow questions among other things. For this case I googled: using idle >>>>>>>> in anaconda >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That pulled up a mailing list discussion on the anaconda mailing >>>>>>>> list. It's an interesting thread, and you can see the devs saying that IDLE >>>>>>>> should be given better support. So that is nice for you to hear. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/continuum.io/d/msg/anaconda/Dr8xFdKbA20/MWvhTO4KF8wJ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The stack overflow response is >>>>>>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/26047185/import-anaconda-packages-to-idle >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Someone had the same problem you did. Try out the answer. It >>>>>>>> involves changing PATH, which is a normal kind of thing to do in an OS, and >>>>>>>> you won't need to worry about ripping apart your operating system. I don't >>>>>>>> know if the answer works, but it something to try. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> shekay at pobox.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Chicago mailing list >>>>>>>> Chicago at python.org >>>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Chicago mailing list >>>>>>> Chicago at python.org >>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Chicago mailing list >>>>>> Chicago at python.org >>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Chicago mailing list >>>>> Chicago at python.org >>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chicago mailing list >>>> Chicago at python.org >>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mikaeltamillow96 at gmail.com Fri Oct 2 06:33:22 2015 From: mikaeltamillow96 at gmail.com (Mike Tamillow) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2015 23:33:22 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Sympy for Python 3 ??? In-Reply-To: References: <9C78FFB1-5C19-46AE-B6A6-2C0C28DBE7E2@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4DD3DD19-549D-4C35-B6FE-DE73DC3B9663@gmail.com> Who??? Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 1, 2015, at 10:00 PM, Allan Spale wrote: > > Could you please refrain from posting references insulting people with special needs. > >> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 7:22 AM Mike Tamillow wrote: >> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X6WHBO_Qc-Q >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 29, 2015, at 9:51 PM, Lewit, Douglas wrote: >>> >>> Hey Will, >>> >>> Yep, I know you're right. I gotta do some networking and meet the right people who can help me with my future plans to become the greatest programmer in the world! Sarcasm intended. I'll be happy if I can become the greatest programmer in my neighborhood!!! :-) >>> >>> I sometimes have Sundays free, so right now I'm going to try to attend some of Lane's Sunday Django meetings. Besides, I really NEED to learn some serious web development. So far all I know is Big-O, sorting, the knapsack problem, addition algorithm, KNN-algorithm for machine learning, some divide and conquer stuff, some Unix/Linux stuff, you get the idea. But networking, security, and web development.... you know, how programmers really make their living, so far I know very little about that stuff. I gotta learn the practical stuff in order to get that paycheck. Besides, it looks fun! >>> >>> I promise Will.... I will do my best to attend some meet-ups. I just hope nobody looks at my programming work and says, "Oh god, there's our little Python retard!" If I end up becoming the Forrest Gump of ChiPy, I won't attend any of the meetings!!!! :-) >>> >>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 9:31 PM, William E. S. Clemens wrote: >>>> Doug, >>>> >>>> I strongly recommend that you make time to come to some events. One of biggest strengths of Python is the amazing community behind it. I know that there are events on Monday, Wednesday, Thursday and Sunday every month. I think that you will find the Chicago group to be extremely friendly and helpful. It is a great group of people to know if you are looking at getting into professional Python development in Chicago post graduation. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Will >>>> >>>> -- >>>> William Clemens >>>> Phone: 847.485.9455 >>>> E-mail: wesclemens at gmail.com >>>> >>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 8:56 PM, Lewit, Douglas wrote: >>>>> Hi Joshua, >>>>> >>>>> My first name is Doug or Douglas, NOT Lewit!!!! LOL!!!! >>>>> >>>>> It seems like Project Night is usually on a Thursday night, right? Right now my Thursday nights look a little busy. Although I would probably learn more from Project Night than my Informatics professor, but.... he's got that PhD, and I guess those three magic letters means he knows everything about computer science, right? :-) >>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 8:11 PM, Joshua Herman wrote: >>>>>> Dear lewit, >>>>>> When do you have time to go to events like project nights in general ? Do you live on campus all of the time? What about going on a weekend or during winter break? >>>>>> Sincerely >>>>>> Joshua herman >>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 8:05 PM Lewit, Douglas wrote: >>>>>>> Exactly! I'm a little nervous about changing my $PATH variable because I'm definitely NOT a Unix administrator! I mean.... I know the basics, like cd, cp, mv, ls, ls -ld -- */, ls | wc -l, and some other cool stuff. But changing $PATH is a little scary to me! On the rare occasion when I do that stuff, I always use Emacs as my text editor. The great thing about Emacs is that when you edit a file, Emacs saves the original with a tilde following the name of the file. So if I want to edit bash.rc I end up with bash.rc and bash.rc~. If I totally screwed up bash.rc, then I just do this: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> mv bash.rc~ bash.rc >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That restores the previous bash.rc file. It overwrites the messed up file with the original correct file. BUT in general I'm very nervous about doing system changes like that. I tried doing a dual boot of Ubuntu and Kali Linux a while back. Big mistake!!!! I mistakenly deleted the grub file and then I was really SCREWED!!!! I had to do a fresh install of Ubuntu on my hard drive. That wasn't fun! (Ubuntu is pretty easy to install. Kali Linux is NOT easy to install unless you know a lot about networking, protocols, and other stuff that is currently beyond my knowledge of modern computation.) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would love to attend a Python Project Night. The problem is that those are always scheduled for a Thursday night. That's when I have my Informatics class. And since the class meets up once a week, missing a class for Python Project Night is probably not a smart move on my part. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Oh hey there Safia! Thanks for writing. Much appreciated. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:57 PM, William E. S. Clemens wrote: >>>>>>>> Os.chdir( ) is not what your looking for you need to add the path for your Anaconda packages to the sys.path list. That being said its generally not a good idea to mess with sys.path unless you know what your doing. It will almost surely break your code portability. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you need help setting up Python I would suggest that you go to Project Night. They are a great group of people and I'm sure they would be more then happy to get you started down the right path. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.meetup.com/ChicagoPythonistas/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> William Clemens >>>>>>>> Phone: 847.485.9455 >>>>>>>> E-mail: wesclemens at gmail.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Joshua Herman wrote: >>>>>>>>> How do people generally learn python? I think I have progressed in the following manner. >>>>>>>>> 0. Don't know what python is (First experience was from Carl Karsten telling me the general syntax rules. >>>>>>>>> 1. Start by using python script on the command line >>>>>>>>> 2. Play with IDLE / other IDEs/ Scripting >>>>>>>>> 4. Use python at school at the compbio laboratory and Alcatel Lucen >>>>>>>>> 5. Learn what virtualenv is and make them >>>>>>>>> 6. Learn what ipython is and use ipython >>>>>>>>> 7. Play with anaconda >>>>>>>>> 8. I am here >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Python is generally batteries included. Should ipython be a better starting point for people who install python? I think more scientific/ financial oriented people are doing the following. >>>>>>>>> 1. Get exposed to python to apply to work >>>>>>>>> 2. Use ipython by installing using anaconda and use it in a browser? possibly you don't even have a local install of python . >>>>>>>>> Now the person's goals will cause them to make a decision. >>>>>>>>> ?. Start by using python script on the command line >>>>>>>>> ?. Play with IDLE / other IDEs/ Scripting >>>>>>>>> ?. Learn what virtualenv is and make them >>>>>>>>> ?. Do web development >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think that if more people are doing the second path maybe we should introduce python the second way instead of the first. For one reason setting up ipython or some notebook interface on some cloud server is probably going to become more common. The first way that people seem to learn python takes much more steps to do interesting things and once a person is hooked on python then they can learn the other steps. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 12:16 PM, sheila miguez wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Lewit, Douglas wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> I think my answer was way too long! Sorry! Just trying to explain what's going on. I just wish there was a way that I could get IDLE to access all the modules that Anaconda can access. Not really sure how to do it without tearing apart my operating system. (And I really don't want to do that! ) I must say >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This is where the google it answer is helpful. A lot of times I'll have a question like this and will google and see some related stack overflow questions among other things. For this case I googled: using idle in anaconda >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> That pulled up a mailing list discussion on the anaconda mailing list. It's an interesting thread, and you can see the devs saying that IDLE should be given better support. So that is nice for you to hear. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/continuum.io/d/msg/anaconda/Dr8xFdKbA20/MWvhTO4KF8wJ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The stack overflow response is http://stackoverflow.com/questions/26047185/import-anaconda-packages-to-idle >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Someone had the same problem you did. Try out the answer. It involves changing PATH, which is a normal kind of thing to do in an OS, and you won't need to worry about ripping apart your operating system. I don't know if the answer works, but it something to try. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> shekay at pobox.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Chicago mailing list >>>>>>>>>> Chicago at python.org >>>>>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Chicago mailing list >>>>>>>>> Chicago at python.org >>>>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Chicago mailing list >>>>>>>> Chicago at python.org >>>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Chicago mailing list >>>>>>> Chicago at python.org >>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Chicago mailing list >>>>>> Chicago at python.org >>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Chicago mailing list >>>>> Chicago at python.org >>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chicago mailing list >>>> Chicago at python.org >>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mikaeltamillow96 at gmail.com Fri Oct 2 06:33:22 2015 From: mikaeltamillow96 at gmail.com (Mike Tamillow) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2015 23:33:22 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Sympy for Python 3 ??? In-Reply-To: References: <9C78FFB1-5C19-46AE-B6A6-2C0C28DBE7E2@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4DD3DD19-549D-4C35-B6FE-DE73DC3B9663@gmail.com> Who??? Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 1, 2015, at 10:00 PM, Allan Spale wrote: > > Could you please refrain from posting references insulting people with special needs. > >> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 7:22 AM Mike Tamillow wrote: >> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X6WHBO_Qc-Q >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 29, 2015, at 9:51 PM, Lewit, Douglas wrote: >>> >>> Hey Will, >>> >>> Yep, I know you're right. I gotta do some networking and meet the right people who can help me with my future plans to become the greatest programmer in the world! Sarcasm intended. I'll be happy if I can become the greatest programmer in my neighborhood!!! :-) >>> >>> I sometimes have Sundays free, so right now I'm going to try to attend some of Lane's Sunday Django meetings. Besides, I really NEED to learn some serious web development. So far all I know is Big-O, sorting, the knapsack problem, addition algorithm, KNN-algorithm for machine learning, some divide and conquer stuff, some Unix/Linux stuff, you get the idea. But networking, security, and web development.... you know, how programmers really make their living, so far I know very little about that stuff. I gotta learn the practical stuff in order to get that paycheck. Besides, it looks fun! >>> >>> I promise Will.... I will do my best to attend some meet-ups. I just hope nobody looks at my programming work and says, "Oh god, there's our little Python retard!" If I end up becoming the Forrest Gump of ChiPy, I won't attend any of the meetings!!!! :-) >>> >>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 9:31 PM, William E. S. Clemens wrote: >>>> Doug, >>>> >>>> I strongly recommend that you make time to come to some events. One of biggest strengths of Python is the amazing community behind it. I know that there are events on Monday, Wednesday, Thursday and Sunday every month. I think that you will find the Chicago group to be extremely friendly and helpful. It is a great group of people to know if you are looking at getting into professional Python development in Chicago post graduation. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Will >>>> >>>> -- >>>> William Clemens >>>> Phone: 847.485.9455 >>>> E-mail: wesclemens at gmail.com >>>> >>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 8:56 PM, Lewit, Douglas wrote: >>>>> Hi Joshua, >>>>> >>>>> My first name is Doug or Douglas, NOT Lewit!!!! LOL!!!! >>>>> >>>>> It seems like Project Night is usually on a Thursday night, right? Right now my Thursday nights look a little busy. Although I would probably learn more from Project Night than my Informatics professor, but.... he's got that PhD, and I guess those three magic letters means he knows everything about computer science, right? :-) >>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 8:11 PM, Joshua Herman wrote: >>>>>> Dear lewit, >>>>>> When do you have time to go to events like project nights in general ? Do you live on campus all of the time? What about going on a weekend or during winter break? >>>>>> Sincerely >>>>>> Joshua herman >>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 8:05 PM Lewit, Douglas wrote: >>>>>>> Exactly! I'm a little nervous about changing my $PATH variable because I'm definitely NOT a Unix administrator! I mean.... I know the basics, like cd, cp, mv, ls, ls -ld -- */, ls | wc -l, and some other cool stuff. But changing $PATH is a little scary to me! On the rare occasion when I do that stuff, I always use Emacs as my text editor. The great thing about Emacs is that when you edit a file, Emacs saves the original with a tilde following the name of the file. So if I want to edit bash.rc I end up with bash.rc and bash.rc~. If I totally screwed up bash.rc, then I just do this: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> mv bash.rc~ bash.rc >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That restores the previous bash.rc file. It overwrites the messed up file with the original correct file. BUT in general I'm very nervous about doing system changes like that. I tried doing a dual boot of Ubuntu and Kali Linux a while back. Big mistake!!!! I mistakenly deleted the grub file and then I was really SCREWED!!!! I had to do a fresh install of Ubuntu on my hard drive. That wasn't fun! (Ubuntu is pretty easy to install. Kali Linux is NOT easy to install unless you know a lot about networking, protocols, and other stuff that is currently beyond my knowledge of modern computation.) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would love to attend a Python Project Night. The problem is that those are always scheduled for a Thursday night. That's when I have my Informatics class. And since the class meets up once a week, missing a class for Python Project Night is probably not a smart move on my part. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Oh hey there Safia! Thanks for writing. Much appreciated. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:57 PM, William E. S. Clemens wrote: >>>>>>>> Os.chdir( ) is not what your looking for you need to add the path for your Anaconda packages to the sys.path list. That being said its generally not a good idea to mess with sys.path unless you know what your doing. It will almost surely break your code portability. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you need help setting up Python I would suggest that you go to Project Night. They are a great group of people and I'm sure they would be more then happy to get you started down the right path. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.meetup.com/ChicagoPythonistas/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> William Clemens >>>>>>>> Phone: 847.485.9455 >>>>>>>> E-mail: wesclemens at gmail.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Joshua Herman wrote: >>>>>>>>> How do people generally learn python? I think I have progressed in the following manner. >>>>>>>>> 0. Don't know what python is (First experience was from Carl Karsten telling me the general syntax rules. >>>>>>>>> 1. Start by using python script on the command line >>>>>>>>> 2. Play with IDLE / other IDEs/ Scripting >>>>>>>>> 4. Use python at school at the compbio laboratory and Alcatel Lucen >>>>>>>>> 5. Learn what virtualenv is and make them >>>>>>>>> 6. Learn what ipython is and use ipython >>>>>>>>> 7. Play with anaconda >>>>>>>>> 8. I am here >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Python is generally batteries included. Should ipython be a better starting point for people who install python? I think more scientific/ financial oriented people are doing the following. >>>>>>>>> 1. Get exposed to python to apply to work >>>>>>>>> 2. Use ipython by installing using anaconda and use it in a browser? possibly you don't even have a local install of python . >>>>>>>>> Now the person's goals will cause them to make a decision. >>>>>>>>> ?. Start by using python script on the command line >>>>>>>>> ?. Play with IDLE / other IDEs/ Scripting >>>>>>>>> ?. Learn what virtualenv is and make them >>>>>>>>> ?. Do web development >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think that if more people are doing the second path maybe we should introduce python the second way instead of the first. For one reason setting up ipython or some notebook interface on some cloud server is probably going to become more common. The first way that people seem to learn python takes much more steps to do interesting things and once a person is hooked on python then they can learn the other steps. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 12:16 PM, sheila miguez wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Lewit, Douglas wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> I think my answer was way too long! Sorry! Just trying to explain what's going on. I just wish there was a way that I could get IDLE to access all the modules that Anaconda can access. Not really sure how to do it without tearing apart my operating system. (And I really don't want to do that! ) I must say >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This is where the google it answer is helpful. A lot of times I'll have a question like this and will google and see some related stack overflow questions among other things. For this case I googled: using idle in anaconda >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> That pulled up a mailing list discussion on the anaconda mailing list. It's an interesting thread, and you can see the devs saying that IDLE should be given better support. So that is nice for you to hear. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/continuum.io/d/msg/anaconda/Dr8xFdKbA20/MWvhTO4KF8wJ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The stack overflow response is http://stackoverflow.com/questions/26047185/import-anaconda-packages-to-idle >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Someone had the same problem you did. Try out the answer. It involves changing PATH, which is a normal kind of thing to do in an OS, and you won't need to worry about ripping apart your operating system. 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As a friendly reminder, everything anyone sends to the ChiPy listerv is archived for all eternity for the world and Google to see: https://mail.python.org/pipermail/chicago/ ... so anything that a person wouldn't want a potential future investor, employer, or colleague to see probably doesn't belong on this listserv. Finally ... To ensure every member of our community feels welcome at all times, we adhere to a Code of Conduct . Organizers will enforce these policies on the list and can remove individuals who do not comply. Feel free to email me separately if you have comments you want to share about any of this...thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From doc.n.try at gmail.com Fri Oct 2 07:46:28 2015 From: doc.n.try at gmail.com (Gang Huang) Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2015 05:46:28 +0000 Subject: [Chicago] Sympy for Python 3 ??? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Tanya, It's been a while! Thank you for your last response. Mike and Allen. The best thing about Python in my opinion aside from how awesome the language is, is the community. If you cannot respect that, I would rather you got and participate in other community where you can boast your brogrammer ego. Being back in SF, I see a lot of your type, and I really hope that it does not spread to my beloved Chicago Python community. Cheers. Gang On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 10:23 PM Tanya Schlusser wrote: > Hi Mike, I think Allan meant both you and Doug... > > I know we're all geeks and so not necessarily the best at interpersonal > things, and also human and prone to mistakes, ... but ... people can be > sensitive to casual use of the 'R' word (Doug) or certainly to the contents > of the youtube video (Mike). > > Since this listserv has > 1000 members, statistically at least one or two > people who subscribe to the list actually have Downs Syndrome (the > incidence in the U.S. is 1 / 691 people > ) > ... and even more are parents or siblings of someone who does... > > > As a friendly reminder, everything anyone sends to the ChiPy listerv is > archived for all eternity for the world and Google to see: > https://mail.python.org/pipermail/chicago/ > > ... so anything that a person wouldn't want a potential future investor, > employer, or colleague to see probably doesn't belong on this listserv. > > > Finally ... > > To ensure every member of our community feels welcome at all times, we > adhere to a Code of Conduct . > Organizers will enforce these policies on the list and can remove > individuals who do not comply. > > Feel free to email me separately if you have comments you want to share > about any of this...thanks! > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mikaeltamillow96 at gmail.com Fri Oct 2 08:32:35 2015 From: mikaeltamillow96 at gmail.com (Mike Tamillow) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 01:32:35 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Sympy for Python 3 ??? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Our type?!? Now I'm offended. The tolerant among us using language so discriminatory. Hypocrisy is far more damaging than political incorrectness. Frankly, I don't know what "my type" is. I'm on an eternal Delphic identity crisis. I don't see how providing a link to a cinematic movie could be interpreted in any way but as the artwork it is, or how it would violate any code of conduct. Can someone please inform me what is happening here? Thank you. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 2, 2015, at 12:46 AM, Gang Huang wrote: > > Hi Tanya, > > It's been a while! Thank you for your last response. > > Mike and Allen. The best thing about Python in my opinion aside from how awesome the language is, is the community. If you cannot respect that, I would rather you got and participate in other community where you can boast your brogrammer ego. Being back in SF, I see a lot of your type, and I really hope that it does not spread to my beloved Chicago Python community. > > Cheers. > > Gang >> On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 10:23 PM Tanya Schlusser wrote: >> Hi Mike, I think Allan meant both you and Doug... >> >> I know we're all geeks and so not necessarily the best at interpersonal things, and also human and prone to mistakes, ... but ... people can be sensitive to casual use of the 'R' word (Doug) or certainly to the contents of the youtube video (Mike). >> >> Since this listserv has > 1000 members, statistically at least one or two people who subscribe to the list actually have Downs Syndrome (the incidence in the U.S. is 1 / 691 people) ... and even more are parents or siblings of someone who does... >> >> >> As a friendly reminder, everything anyone sends to the ChiPy listerv is archived for all eternity for the world and Google to see: >> https://mail.python.org/pipermail/chicago/ >> >> ... so anything that a person wouldn't want a potential future investor, employer, or colleague to see probably doesn't belong on this listserv. >> >> >> Finally ... >> >> To ensure every member of our community feels welcome at all times, we adhere to a Code of Conduct. Organizers will enforce these policies on the list and can remove individuals who do not comply. >> >> Feel free to email me separately if you have comments you want to share about any of this...thanks! >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d-lewit at neiu.edu Fri Oct 2 12:35:42 2015 From: d-lewit at neiu.edu (Lewit, Douglas) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 05:35:42 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Sympy for Python 3 ??? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Mike, Thanks for the link. Take a deep breath and let the other stuff just pass. I think this is what they call a "flame war" or something to that effect. What Tanya said about all this stuff being eternally available through Google is absolutely true! Long story short, I had a lunch date with this guy that I was chatting with online. So he said to me, "Hey Doug, you know I Googled you, and I saw some message about how you were chatting with these Python people about the times of their meetings". Well I just sat back and was shocked! It suddenly felt as if he had had pulled out a secret photo of me in my underwear! Good thing about the internet: So much information at your fingertips. I can find out the capital of Romania in just seconds! When I was a kid I had to walk to the local library to get that information. Bad thing about the internet: ZERO privacy. You're not a person anymore. Just another piece of data, and sadly a lot of that data is not as well encrypted as it probably should be. Oh well. And Gang... as for "my type", you really have no idea what type of person I am because we have never met! I'm probably not the evil, ignorant ogre that you think I am. But then again.... On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 1:32 AM, Mike Tamillow wrote: > Our type?!? Now I'm offended. The tolerant among us using language so > discriminatory. > > Hypocrisy is far more damaging than political incorrectness. > > Frankly, I don't know what "my type" is. I'm on an eternal Delphic > identity crisis. > > I don't see how providing a link to a cinematic movie could be interpreted > in any way but as the artwork it is, or how it would violate any code of > conduct. > > Can someone please inform me what is happening here? > > Thank you. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 2, 2015, at 12:46 AM, Gang Huang wrote: > > Hi Tanya, > > It's been a while! Thank you for your last response. > > Mike and Allen. The best thing about Python in my opinion aside from how > awesome the language is, is the community. If you cannot respect that, I > would rather you got and participate in other community where you can boast > your brogrammer ego. Being back in SF, I see a lot of your type, and I > really hope that it does not spread to my beloved Chicago Python community. > > Cheers. > > Gang > On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 10:23 PM Tanya Schlusser wrote: > >> Hi Mike, I think Allan meant both you and Doug... >> >> I know we're all geeks and so not necessarily the best at interpersonal >> things, and also human and prone to mistakes, ... but ... people can be >> sensitive to casual use of the 'R' word (Doug) or certainly to the contents >> of the youtube video (Mike). >> >> Since this listserv has > 1000 members, statistically at least one or two >> people who subscribe to the list actually have Downs Syndrome (the >> incidence in the U.S. is 1 / 691 people >> ) >> ... and even more are parents or siblings of someone who does... >> >> >> As a friendly reminder, everything anyone sends to the ChiPy listerv is >> archived for all eternity for the world and Google to see: >> https://mail.python.org/pipermail/chicago/ >> >> ... so anything that a person wouldn't want a potential future investor, >> employer, or colleague to see probably doesn't belong on this listserv. >> >> >> Finally ... >> >> To ensure every member of our community feels welcome at all times, we >> adhere to a Code of Conduct . >> Organizers will enforce these policies on the list and can remove >> individuals who do not comply. >> >> Feel free to email me separately if you have comments you want to share >> about any of this...thanks! >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 10:00 PM, Allan Spale wrote: > Could you please refrain from posting references insulting people with > special needs. > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 7:22 AM Mike Tamillow > wrote: > >> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X6WHBO_Qc-Q >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Sep 29, 2015, at 9:51 PM, Lewit, Douglas wrote: >> >> Hey Will, >> >> Yep, I know you're right. I gotta do some networking and meet the right >> people who can help me with my future plans to become the greatest >> programmer in the world! Sarcasm intended. I'll be happy if I can become >> the greatest programmer in my neighborhood!!! :-) >> >> I sometimes have Sundays free, so right now I'm going to try to attend >> some of Lane's Sunday Django meetings. Besides, I really NEED to learn >> some serious web development. So far all I know is Big-O, sorting, the >> knapsack problem, addition algorithm, KNN-algorithm for machine learning, >> some divide and conquer stuff, some Unix/Linux stuff, you get the idea. >> But networking, security, and web development.... you know, how programmers >> really make their living, so far I know very little about that stuff. I >> gotta learn the practical stuff in order to get that paycheck. Besides, it >> looks fun! >> >> I promise Will.... I will do my best to attend some meet-ups. I just >> hope nobody looks at my programming work and says, "Oh god, there's our >> little Python retard!" If I end up becoming the Forrest Gump of ChiPy, I >> won't attend any of the meetings!!!! :-) >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 9:31 PM, William E. S. Clemens < >> wesclemens at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Doug, >>> >>> I strongly recommend that you make time to come to some events. One of >>> biggest strengths of Python is the amazing community behind it. I know >>> that there are events on Monday, Wednesday, Thursday and Sunday every >>> month. I think that you will find the Chicago group to be extremely >>> friendly and helpful. It is a great group of people to know if you are >>> looking at getting into professional Python development in Chicago post >>> graduation. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Will >>> >>> -- >>> William Clemens >>> Phone: 847.485.9455 >>> E-mail: wesclemens at gmail.com >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 8:56 PM, Lewit, Douglas >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Joshua, >>>> >>>> My first name is Doug or Douglas, NOT Lewit!!!! LOL!!!! >>>> >>>> It seems like Project Night is usually on a Thursday night, right? >>>> Right now my Thursday nights look a little busy. Although I would probably >>>> learn more from Project Night than my Informatics professor, but.... he's >>>> got that* PhD*, and I guess those three magic letters means he knows >>>> everything about computer science, right? :-) >>>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 8:11 PM, Joshua Herman < >>>> zitterbewegung at gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear lewit, >>>>> When do you have time to go to events like project nights in general ? >>>>> Do you live on campus all of the time? What about going on a weekend or >>>>> during winter break? >>>>> Sincerely >>>>> Joshua herman >>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 8:05 PM Lewit, Douglas >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Exactly! I'm a little nervous about changing my $PATH variable >>>>>> because I'm definitely NOT a Unix administrator! I mean.... I know the >>>>>> basics, like cd, cp, mv, ls, ls -ld -- */, ls | wc -l, and some other cool >>>>>> stuff. But changing $PATH is a little scary to me! On the rare occasion >>>>>> when I do that stuff, I always use Emacs as my text editor. The great >>>>>> thing about Emacs is that when you edit a file, Emacs saves the original >>>>>> with a tilde following the name of the file. So if I want to edit bash.rc >>>>>> I end up with bash.rc and bash.rc~. If I totally screwed up bash.rc, then >>>>>> I just do this: >>>>>> >>>>>> mv bash.rc~ bash.rc >>>>>> >>>>>> That restores the previous bash.rc file. It overwrites the messed up >>>>>> file with the original correct file. BUT in general I'm very nervous about >>>>>> doing system changes like that. I tried doing a dual boot of Ubuntu and >>>>>> Kali Linux a while back. Big mistake!!!! I mistakenly deleted the grub >>>>>> file and then I was really SCREWED!!!! I had to do a fresh install of >>>>>> Ubuntu on my hard drive. That wasn't fun! (Ubuntu is pretty easy to >>>>>> install. Kali Linux is NOT easy to install unless you know a lot about >>>>>> networking, protocols, and other stuff that is currently beyond my >>>>>> knowledge of modern computation.) >>>>>> >>>>>> I would love to attend a Python Project Night. The problem is that >>>>>> those are always scheduled for a Thursday night. That's when I have my >>>>>> Informatics class. And since the class meets up once a week, missing a >>>>>> class for Python Project Night is probably not a smart move on my part. >>>>>> >>>>>> Oh hey there Safia! Thanks for writing. Much appreciated. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:57 PM, William E. S. Clemens < >>>>>> wesclemens at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Os.chdir( ) is not what your looking for you need to add the path >>>>>>> for your Anaconda packages to the sys.path list. That being said its >>>>>>> generally not a good idea to mess with sys.path unless you know what your >>>>>>> doing. It will almost surely break your code portability. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you need help setting up Python I would suggest that you go to >>>>>>> Project Night. They are a great group of people and I'm sure they would be >>>>>>> more then happy to get you started down the right path. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.meetup.com/ChicagoPythonistas/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> William Clemens >>>>>>> Phone: 847.485.9455 >>>>>>> E-mail: wesclemens at gmail.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Joshua Herman < >>>>>>> zitterbewegung at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> How do people generally learn python? I think I have progressed in >>>>>>>> the following manner. >>>>>>>> 0. Don't know what python is (First experience was from Carl >>>>>>>> Karsten telling me the general syntax rules. >>>>>>>> 1. Start by using python script on the command line >>>>>>>> 2. Play with IDLE / other IDEs/ Scripting >>>>>>>> 4. Use python at school at the compbio laboratory and Alcatel Lucen >>>>>>>> 5. Learn what virtualenv is and make them >>>>>>>> 6. Learn what ipython is and use ipython >>>>>>>> 7. Play with anaconda >>>>>>>> 8. I am here >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Python is generally batteries included. Should ipython be a better >>>>>>>> starting point for people who install python? I think more scientific/ >>>>>>>> financial oriented people are doing the following. >>>>>>>> 1. Get exposed to python to apply to work >>>>>>>> 2. Use ipython by installing using anaconda and use it in a >>>>>>>> browser? possibly you don't even have a local install of python . >>>>>>>> Now the person's goals will cause them to make a decision. >>>>>>>> ?. Start by using python script on the command line >>>>>>>> ?. Play with IDLE / other IDEs/ Scripting >>>>>>>> ?. Learn what virtualenv is and make them >>>>>>>> ?. Do web development >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think that if more people are doing the second path maybe we >>>>>>>> should introduce python the second way instead of the first. For one reason >>>>>>>> setting up ipython or some notebook interface on some cloud server is >>>>>>>> probably going to become more common. The first way that people seem to >>>>>>>> learn python takes much more steps to do interesting things and once a >>>>>>>> person is hooked on python then they can learn the other steps. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 12:16 PM, sheila miguez >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Lewit, Douglas >>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I think my answer was way too long! Sorry! Just trying to >>>>>>>>>> explain what's going on. I just wish there was a way that I could get IDLE >>>>>>>>>> to access all the modules that Anaconda can access. Not really sure how to >>>>>>>>>> do it without tearing apart my operating system. (And I really don't want >>>>>>>>>> to do that! ) I must say >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This is where the google it answer is helpful. A lot of times I'll >>>>>>>>> have a question like this and will google and see some related stack >>>>>>>>> overflow questions among other things. For this case I googled: using idle >>>>>>>>> in anaconda >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That pulled up a mailing list discussion on the anaconda mailing >>>>>>>>> list. It's an interesting thread, and you can see the devs saying that IDLE >>>>>>>>> should be given better support. So that is nice for you to hear. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/continuum.io/d/msg/anaconda/Dr8xFdKbA20/MWvhTO4KF8wJ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The stack overflow response is >>>>>>>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/26047185/import-anaconda-packages-to-idle >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Someone had the same problem you did. Try out the answer. It >>>>>>>>> involves changing PATH, which is a normal kind of thing to do in an OS, and >>>>>>>>> you won't need to worry about ripping apart your operating system. I don't >>>>>>>>> know if the answer works, but it something to try. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> shekay at pobox.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Chicago mailing list >>>>>>>>> Chicago at python.org >>>>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Chicago mailing list >>>>>>>> Chicago at python.org >>>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Chicago mailing list >>>>>>> Chicago at python.org >>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Chicago mailing list >>>>>> Chicago at python.org >>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Chicago mailing list >>>>> Chicago at python.org >>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chicago mailing list >>>> Chicago at python.org >>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Corboy Law Center Room number 209 25 E Pearson St Chicago, IL 60611 *When:* Thursday October 8th, 7:00pm *How:* You can rsvp at chipy.org or via our Meetup group. *What:* - *Python-fu in the GIMP* (0:25:00 Minutes) By: Tanya Schlusser GIMP (the GNU Image Manipulation Program) is great all by itself but is even better with Python-fu. This talk demonstrates a little Python-fu to manipulate images in GIMP. - *Factor analysis: simplifying high dimensional data sets for visualization and machine learning* (0:25:00 Minutes) By: Mark Albert For many machine learning problems, there are far more dimensions to our data than there need to be for efficient learning. Often a first step is dimensionality reduction to remove both redundancy and noise. In addition to more efficient automated learning, factor analysis allows us to visualize high dimensional data sets in our standard human-limited 2 or 3 dimensions. For demonstration, we will apply PCA on a set of questions asked of the audience to map everyone onto a 2D "personality" map - allowing us to visualize the underlying personality factors of those present. Beyond fun visualizations, these techniques are the basis of more efficient generalization in many machine learning problems. - *Fancy genetics and simple scripts: Manipulating DNA data and becoming more proficient with Python* (0:20:00 Minutes) By: Mark Mandel Our ability to read the genetic code of organisms and to use DNA sequencing to learn new biology has benefited tremendously from technological advances in the past ten years. My lab looks at how animals get colonized with specific bacteria. As we have been generating more data it has become clear that we are underutilizing the information. We are beginning to build resources to be more efficient and clever at data processing and data mining from biological samples. 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On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 2:51 PM Brian Ray wrote: > This might be our best one yet! > > so excited! > > http://chipy.org or http://bit.ly/ochipy > > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From walkersam at gmail.com Sat Oct 10 05:36:15 2015 From: walkersam at gmail.com (Sam Walker) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 22:36:15 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] October meeting is looking great In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Didn't make this meeting so just would like to put in a request for slides from the GIMP talk if you're willing to share them, Tanya. I remember you gave a fantastic talk with very instructive (Jupyter, n?e?...) IPython accompaniment at the first meeting I attended and generative art/graphics programing is a big interest of mine. ?Sam Walker On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 8:56 PM, Joshua Herman wrote: > This was a fun meeting. > I learned a bunch of things about unsupervised learning and how to get > features out of data ! > On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 2:51 PM Brian Ray wrote: > >> This might be our best one yet! >> >> so excited! >> >> http://chipy.org or http://bit.ly/ochipy >> >> >> -- >> Brian Ray >> @brianray >> (773) 669-7717 >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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IPython > accompaniment at the first meeting I attended and generative art/graphics > programing is a big interest of mine. > > ?Sam Walker > > On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 8:56 PM, Joshua Herman > wrote: > >> This was a fun meeting. >> I learned a bunch of things about unsupervised learning and how to get >> features out of data ! >> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 2:51 PM Brian Ray wrote: >> >>> This might be our best one yet! >>> >>> so excited! >>> >>> http://chipy.org or http://bit.ly/ochipy >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Brian Ray >>> @brianray >>> (773) 669-7717 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mwbogucki at gmail.com Mon Oct 12 02:14:51 2015 From: mwbogucki at gmail.com (Michael Bogucki) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 19:14:51 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] October meeting is looking great In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Awesome... I wanted to see Tanya's talk but couldn't make this meeting... ^_^ --Mike On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 6:45 PM, Adam Forsyth wrote: > The first two talks ran long, so Tanya volunteered to postpone her talk to > next month (as she was scheduled to speak last). Hope you can make it! > > Adam > > On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:36 PM, Sam Walker wrote: > >> Didn't make this meeting so just would like to put in a request for >> slides from the GIMP talk if you're willing to share them, Tanya. I >> remember you gave a fantastic talk with very instructive (Jupyter, >> n?e?...) IPython accompaniment at the first meeting I attended and >> generative art/graphics programing is a big interest of mine. >> >> ?Sam Walker >> >> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 8:56 PM, Joshua Herman >> wrote: >> >>> This was a fun meeting. >>> I learned a bunch of things about unsupervised learning and how to get >>> features out of data ! >>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 2:51 PM Brian Ray wrote: >>> >>>> This might be our best one yet! >>>> >>>> so excited! >>>> >>>> http://chipy.org or http://bit.ly/ochipy >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Brian Ray >>>> @brianray >>>> (773) 669-7717 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chicago mailing list >>>> Chicago at python.org >>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brianhray at gmail.com Mon Oct 12 22:28:27 2015 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 16:28:27 -0400 Subject: [Chicago] \welcome Scientifc SIG Message-ID: Chicago Python #ChiPy now has Special Interest Group for those using #Python in Scientific Computing and Research http://bit.ly/1Pb4Oh7 We need lots of help getting this started. I do hope those who get involved will have a very strong Science and Python background as we should aim high. Cheers, Brian -- Brian Ray @brianray (773) 669-7717 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mgraves87 at gmail.com Mon Oct 12 22:43:48 2015 From: mgraves87 at gmail.com (Mark Graves) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 15:43:48 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] \welcome Scientifc SIG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Brian, I am very interested in this group, as this is what I have spent most of my life doing. I would like to help in any way possible. -Mark On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > Chicago Python #ChiPy now > has Special Interest Group for those using #Python > in Scientific Computing and > Research http://bit.ly/1Pb4Oh7 > > We need lots of help getting this started. I do hope those who get > involved will have a very strong Science and Python background as we should > aim high. > > Cheers, Brian > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brianhray at gmail.com Tue Oct 13 02:41:20 2015 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 20:41:20 -0400 Subject: [Chicago] \welcome Scientifc SIG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: fantastic. Will ping you off the list as we get closer. Meanwhile, looking for: venue, sponsors, speakers, love. Cheers, Brian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d-lewit at neiu.edu Tue Oct 13 02:47:27 2015 From: d-lewit at neiu.edu (Lewit, Douglas) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 19:47:27 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] \welcome Scientifc SIG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: All this techie talk has got me slightly confused! What does it mean to get "pinged off" a list? :-) Yes, I'm interested in the numerical and scientific applications of Python (i.e. numpy, scipy, matplotlib, sympy, et al ) and would like to learn more.... within my time constraints! Thanks Brian. On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 7:41 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > fantastic. Will ping you off the list as we get closer. Meanwhile, looking > for: venue, sponsors, speakers, love. > > Cheers, Brian > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From zitterbewegung at gmail.com Tue Oct 13 03:43:46 2015 From: zitterbewegung at gmail.com (Joshua Herman) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 01:43:46 +0000 Subject: [Chicago] \welcome Scientifc SIG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Pinged off means that they will email you not on a thread that will message anyone on the list. On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 8:11 PM Lewit, Douglas wrote: > All this techie talk has got me slightly confused! What does it mean to > get "pinged off" a list? :-) > > Yes, I'm interested in the numerical and scientific applications of Python > (i.e. numpy, scipy, matplotlib, sympy, et al ) and would like to learn > more.... within my time constraints! Thanks Brian. > > On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 7:41 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > >> fantastic. Will ping you off the list as we get closer. Meanwhile, >> looking for: venue, sponsors, speakers, love. >> >> Cheers, Brian >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mandel01 at gmail.com Tue Oct 13 04:24:15 2015 From: mandel01 at gmail.com (Mark Mandel) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 21:24:15 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] October meeting is looking great In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi all, Thanks for the tremendous interest and comments on our work from Thursday's meeting. I've included links below to the code/slides. Feedback on Thursday has been very helpful. Additional input would be welcome as we develop this project, and then hopefully related ones in the future. I'll look forward to the scientific special interest group and to continuing discussions there. Github repo: https://github.com/mandel01/pyinseq PDF of slides: http://bit.ly/1MnV5hv Take care, Mark Work contact info: Mark J. Mandel, Ph.D. Assistant Professor Department of Microbiology-Immunology Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine 320 E. Superior St., Searle 3-403 Chicago, IL 60611 m-mandel at northwestern.edu http://labs.feinberg.northwestern.edu/mandel/ (312) 503-4138 Office (312) 503-2915 Lab (312) 503-9594 Fax On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > This might be our best one yet! > > so excited! > > http://chipy.org or http://bit.ly/ochipy > > > -- > Brian Ray > @brianray > (773) 669-7717 > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d-lewit at neiu.edu Tue Oct 13 07:26:02 2015 From: d-lewit at neiu.edu (Lewit, Douglas) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 00:26:02 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] October meeting is looking great In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Mark, Are you primarily interested in using Python for bioinformatics research? Are you familiar with the Rosalind website? I used that for a class I took last year in computational biology at Northeastern Illinois University. Great class and excellent professor. I think it's going to be offered again this spring. Python and Rosalind are important parts of that course. The biology stuff was interesting to me, but to be honest what I really enjoyed was the Python programming in the course. Best, Douglas. On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 9:24 PM, Mark Mandel wrote: > Hi all, > > Thanks for the tremendous interest and comments on our work from > Thursday's meeting. I've included links below to the code/slides. > > Feedback on Thursday has been very helpful. Additional input would be > welcome as we develop this project, and then hopefully related ones in the > future. I'll look forward to the scientific special interest group and to > continuing discussions there. > > Github repo: https://github.com/mandel01/pyinseq > PDF of slides: http://bit.ly/1MnV5hv > > > Take care, > Mark > > > > Work contact info: > Mark J. Mandel, Ph.D. > Assistant Professor > Department of Microbiology-Immunology > Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine > 320 E. Superior St., Searle 3-403 > Chicago, IL 60611 > m-mandel at northwestern.edu > http://labs.feinberg.northwestern.edu/mandel/ > (312) 503-4138 Office > (312) 503-2915 Lab > (312) 503-9594 Fax > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > >> This might be our best one yet! >> >> so excited! >> >> http://chipy.org or http://bit.ly/ochipy >> >> >> -- >> Brian Ray >> @brianray >> (773) 669-7717 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From daniel.galtieri at gmail.com Tue Oct 13 14:36:09 2015 From: daniel.galtieri at gmail.com (Daniel Galtieri) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 07:36:09 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] \welcome Scientifc SIG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Probably too much of Python newbie to contribute much content wise, but if there's anything else I can help out with let me know. Looking forward to these meetings. Best, Dan ? -- Daniel Galtieri Ph.D. Candidate Northwestern University Interdepartmental Neuroscience Program Laboratory of Dr. D. James Surmeier Chicago, IL On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 8:43 PM, Joshua Herman wrote: > Pinged off means that they will email you not on a thread that will > message anyone on the list. > > On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 8:11 PM Lewit, Douglas wrote: > >> All this techie talk has got me slightly confused! What does it mean to >> get "pinged off" a list? :-) >> >> Yes, I'm interested in the numerical and scientific applications of >> Python (i.e. numpy, scipy, matplotlib, sympy, et al ) and would like to >> learn more.... within my time constraints! Thanks Brian. >> >> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 7:41 PM, Brian Ray wrote: >> >>> fantastic. Will ping you off the list as we get closer. Meanwhile, >>> looking for: venue, sponsors, speakers, love. >>> >>> Cheers, Brian >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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James Surmeier >> Chicago, IL >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 8:43 PM, Joshua Herman >> wrote: >> >>> Pinged off means that they will email you not on a thread that will >>> message anyone on the list. >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 8:11 PM Lewit, Douglas wrote: >>> >>>> All this techie talk has got me slightly confused! What does it mean >>>> to get "pinged off" a list? :-) >>>> >>>> Yes, I'm interested in the numerical and scientific applications of >>>> Python (i.e. numpy, scipy, matplotlib, sympy, et al ) and would like to >>>> learn more.... within my time constraints! Thanks Brian. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 7:41 PM, Brian Ray wrote: >>>> >>>>> fantastic. Will ping you off the list as we get closer. 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URL: From lm.velasquez12 at gmail.com Tue Oct 13 15:14:45 2015 From: lm.velasquez12 at gmail.com (Loren Velasquez) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 08:14:45 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] \welcome Scientifc SIG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi! I'm very interested! I am super interested in the scientific SIG! Especially that which involves bioinformatics! I would be happy to help in any way I can! :) On Oct 13, 2015 7:37 AM, "Daniel Galtieri" wrote: > Probably too much of Python newbie to contribute much content wise, but if > there's anything else I can help out with let me know. Looking forward to > these meetings. > > Best, > > Dan > > > ? > -- > Daniel Galtieri > Ph.D. Candidate > Northwestern University > Interdepartmental Neuroscience Program > Laboratory of Dr. D. James Surmeier > Chicago, IL > > > On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 8:43 PM, Joshua Herman > wrote: > >> Pinged off means that they will email you not on a thread that will >> message anyone on the list. >> >> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 8:11 PM Lewit, Douglas wrote: >> >>> All this techie talk has got me slightly confused! What does it mean to >>> get "pinged off" a list? :-) >>> >>> Yes, I'm interested in the numerical and scientific applications of >>> Python (i.e. numpy, scipy, matplotlib, sympy, et al ) and would like to >>> learn more.... within my time constraints! Thanks Brian. >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 7:41 PM, Brian Ray wrote: >>> >>>> fantastic. Will ping you off the list as we get closer. 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URL: From mandel01 at gmail.com Tue Oct 13 13:07:16 2015 From: mandel01 at gmail.com (Mark Mandel) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 06:07:16 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] October meeting is looking great In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Douglas, Thank you for the opportunity to provide some additional background/context here. Yes, the focus is bioinformatics. My lab is a "wet bench" bacterial genetics lab. In the past we have largely collaborated with other groups for bioinformatic analysis, and we will continue to do so. At the same time we are eager to develop a stronger base of tools within the group so that we can address questions that are not being answered, and for additional automation and quality control. This is the first step in that direction, and I appreciate the support of the ChiPy community both from previous meeting presentations and also from informal interactions that have been valuable. Cheers, Mark On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 12:26 AM, Lewit, Douglas wrote: > Hi Mark, > > Are you primarily interested in using Python for bioinformatics research? > Are you familiar with the Rosalind website? I used that for a class I took > last year in computational biology at Northeastern Illinois University. > Great class and excellent professor. I think it's going to be offered > again this spring. Python and Rosalind are important parts of that > course. The biology stuff was interesting to me, but to be honest what I > really enjoyed was the Python programming in the course. > > Best, > > Douglas. > > > On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 9:24 PM, Mark Mandel wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Thanks for the tremendous interest and comments on our work from >> Thursday's meeting. I've included links below to the code/slides. >> >> Feedback on Thursday has been very helpful. Additional input would be >> welcome as we develop this project, and then hopefully related ones in the >> future. I'll look forward to the scientific special interest group and to >> continuing discussions there. >> >> Github repo: https://github.com/mandel01/pyinseq >> PDF of slides: http://bit.ly/1MnV5hv >> >> >> Take care, >> Mark >> >> >> >> Work contact info: >> Mark J. Mandel, Ph.D. >> Assistant Professor >> Department of Microbiology-Immunology >> Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine >> 320 E. Superior St., Searle 3-403 >> Chicago, IL 60611 >> m-mandel at northwestern.edu >> http://labs.feinberg.northwestern.edu/mandel/ >> (312) 503-4138 Office >> (312) 503-2915 Lab >> (312) 503-9594 Fax >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Brian Ray wrote: >> >>> This might be our best one yet! >>> >>> so excited! >>> >>> http://chipy.org or http://bit.ly/ochipy >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Brian Ray >>> @brianray >>> (773) 669-7717 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 11:06 PM, Joe Jasinski wrote: > Hi All, > > ChiPy is planning on creating an official ChiPy T-shirt, and we are > looking for your help! > > We'd like to open up the T-shirt design process to the ChiPy community > (and friends) and make a contest of T-shirt design submissions. Once we > have enough artwork submissions, we as a ChiPy community will vote on the > design that we'd like to print. > > The winner of the vote will win 2 free T-shirts with the design! The > winning design will be printed on the front of a white T-shirt. > > Here are the requirements for the artwork. The artwork... > > - should relate to the Python and ChiPy community (with the ChiPy name or > logo) > - can use any number of colors > - should be in PDF or PNG file format at 300DPI. (EPS or AI file format > would also work) > - should fit within a 12x12 inch print region > > Please email me your artwork submission and I look forward to seeing some > creative ChiPy T-shirt designs! > > Joe > > > -- > Joe J. Jasinski > www.joejasinski.com > -- Joe J. Jasinski www.joejasinski.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From zitterbewegung at gmail.com Wed Oct 14 23:20:03 2015 From: zitterbewegung at gmail.com (Joshua Herman) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 16:20:03 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] \welcome Scientifc SIG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I am trying to get space at UIC to host the event. On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 12:22 PM, sheila miguez wrote: > This is really neat. We have python people at my hackerspace who are also > interested in data science and the scientific python stack. We don't have > space for a large event, but if a group of <30 people want to have a talk > or give a presentation or demo about something, I would be happy to try and > find a time for an event. I'd really like something like "teach me pandas" > in the style of what Steve Holden did with twisted at pycon 2009(?). I > don't to be Steve as I am not as lively. I would like to be an attendee. > > Will this be also a good mailing list to use for the SIG? > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brianhray at gmail.com Wed Oct 14 23:40:12 2015 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 17:40:12 -0400 Subject: [Chicago] \welcome Scientifc SIG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sheila: I see your point about the mailing list. Let's start with some private emails between those who wish to organize these. I certainly do not need to be organizer of the Scientific SIG but offered to at least get it rolling. Once we get a core group of organizers (and yes Sheila I hope you can be one), let's make these decisions as a group. All: So, what I would really like to see is 3-5 core leaders of the Scientific SIG. Some have reached out; however, I think the qualifications should be: - You have the time. It is time consuming to organize meetings - You are already connected, you know who to call about venues, sponsors, and speakers - You have a strong science background. IE you can provide guidance to members who are at graduate level science courses because they most likely will be many. - You have used Python for science for a long time. 3+ years - And, again, "you have time" and can make it to most/all the monthly meetings If you fit these requirements, and you have not contacted me so far, please let me know. We will start some private emails and the first meeting will be focused on getting established for the next year to come. This will be the Best ChiPy Scientific Python user group Ever! Brian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shekay at pobox.com Thu Oct 15 00:20:48 2015 From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 17:20:48 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] \welcome Scientifc SIG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I wish I could help but I don't have time or graduate or equiv level experience. I'm happy for people to talk to me about hosting something at ps1 and if I'm busy another member might have time to host. I'll spread the word to recruit more people. And, I'm looking forward to attending events. On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > Sheila: > > I see your point about the mailing list. Let's start with some private > emails between those who wish to organize these. I certainly do not need to > be organizer of the Scientific SIG but offered to at least get it rolling. > Once we get a core group of organizers (and yes Sheila I hope you can be > one), let's make these decisions as a group. > > All: > > So, what I would really like to see is 3-5 core leaders of the Scientific > SIG. Some have reached out; however, I think the qualifications should be: > > - You have the time. It is time consuming to organize meetings > - You are already connected, you know who to call about venues, > sponsors, and speakers > - You have a strong science background. IE you can provide guidance to > members who are at graduate level science courses because they most likely > will be many. > - You have used Python for science for a long time. 3+ years > - And, again, "you have time" and can make it to most/all the monthly > meetings > > > If you fit these requirements, and you have not contacted me so far, > please let me know. We will start some private emails and the first meeting > will be focused on getting established for the next year to come. > > This will be the Best ChiPy Scientific Python user group Ever! > > Brian > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -- shekay at pobox.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brianhray at gmail.com Thu Oct 15 00:29:32 2015 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 18:29:32 -0400 Subject: [Chicago] \welcome Scientifc SIG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The time part is critical. However, the requirement isn't necessarily, " graduate or equiv level experience." What I said was, "is able to provide guidance." In other words, if someone approaches a organizer and says I wish to use Hidden Markov Models and or why my large multi-dimensional array does not perform well as a list of lists, they can at least point that person in the right direction? Brian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d-lewit at neiu.edu Thu Oct 15 00:35:43 2015 From: d-lewit at neiu.edu (Lewit, Douglas) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 17:35:43 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] \welcome Scientifc SIG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Where were you guys last year when I spent HOURS AND HOURS on those computational biology programs for Rosalind?! ;-) Although I've played with comp bio and know a thing or two about some of its algorithms, bio is not really where my heart is at, although I would love to attend some of the meetings. You should really consider recruiting in the computer science department at Northeastern Illinois University. I personally know one lady in the department, Rachel Trana, who is very strongly interested in computational biology, and in fact will be teaching the comp bio class again next semester. ( And she uses Python! ) Why not reach out to her and let her know about the new SIG group? She may even want her students to get involved, which would be really cool. Just something to think about. Best, Douglas. On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 5:20 PM, sheila miguez wrote: > I wish I could help but I don't have time or graduate or equiv level > experience. I'm happy for people to talk to me about hosting something at > ps1 and if I'm busy another member might have time to host. > > I'll spread the word to recruit more people. > > And, I'm looking forward to attending events. > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Brian Ray wrote: > >> Sheila: >> >> I see your point about the mailing list. Let's start with some private >> emails between those who wish to organize these. I certainly do not need to >> be organizer of the Scientific SIG but offered to at least get it rolling. >> Once we get a core group of organizers (and yes Sheila I hope you can be >> one), let's make these decisions as a group. >> >> All: >> >> So, what I would really like to see is 3-5 core leaders of the Scientific >> SIG. Some have reached out; however, I think the qualifications should be: >> >> - You have the time. It is time consuming to organize meetings >> - You are already connected, you know who to call about venues, >> sponsors, and speakers >> - You have a strong science background. IE you can provide guidance >> to members who are at graduate level science courses because they most >> likely will be many. >> - You have used Python for science for a long time. 3+ years >> - And, again, "you have time" and can make it to most/all the >> monthly meetings >> >> >> If you fit these requirements, and you have not contacted me so far, >> please let me know. We will start some private emails and the first meeting >> will be focused on getting established for the next year to come. >> >> This will be the Best ChiPy Scientific Python user group Ever! >> >> Brian >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > > > -- > shekay at pobox.com > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From safia at safia.rocks Tue Oct 13 19:40:03 2015 From: safia at safia.rocks (Safia Abdalla) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 12:40:03 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] \welcome Scientifc SIG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'd love to be a part of this as well! And per Sheila's point, perhaps we should create a chicago-sig at googlegroups.com address? Safia Abdalla http://safia.rocks | @captainsafia On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 12:22 PM, sheila miguez wrote: > This is really neat. We have python people at my hackerspace who are also > interested in data science and the scientific python stack. We don't have > space for a large event, but if a group of <30 people want to have a talk > or give a presentation or demo about something, I would be happy to try and > find a time for an event. I'd really like something like "teach me pandas" > in the style of what Steve Holden did with twisted at pycon 2009(?). I > don't to be Steve as I am not as lively. I would like to be an attendee. > > Will this be also a good mailing list to use for the SIG? > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lm.velasquez12 at gmail.com Wed Oct 14 23:25:24 2015 From: lm.velasquez12 at gmail.com (Loren Velasquez) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 16:25:24 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] \welcome Scientifc SIG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Is there by any chance a bioinformatics/scientific open source project happening that one could volunteer for? Just curious because I'm down if there is. Always happy to help :D Best Regards, Loren On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 4:20 PM, Joshua Herman wrote: > I am trying to get space at UIC to host the event. > > On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 12:22 PM, sheila miguez wrote: > >> This is really neat. We have python people at my hackerspace who are also >> interested in data science and the scientific python stack. We don't have >> space for a large event, but if a group of <30 people want to have a talk >> or give a presentation or demo about something, I would be happy to try and >> find a time for an event. I'd really like something like "teach me pandas" >> in the style of what Steve Holden did with twisted at pycon 2009(?). I >> don't to be Steve as I am not as lively. I would like to be an attendee. >> >> Will this be also a good mailing list to use for the SIG? >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d-lewit at neiu.edu Thu Oct 15 15:08:17 2015 From: d-lewit at neiu.edu (Lewit, Douglas) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 08:08:17 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Anaconda vs. IDLE. Message-ID: Hi everyone, I wrote a message about this a few weeks back, and got a few replies, but the issue never got resolved. Now I think I can really identify the problem, just not sure how to resolve it. My Anaconda installation on my Mac is great! It's got every library I need, and plenty more libraries that I haven't even heard of yet. However, when I'm in IDLE (the default interpreter) Python can't seem to access those extra third-party libraries (such as numpy, sympy, scipy, and matplotlib ). I think I may have identified the source of the trouble. I'm just sure how to fix it. Here's what I've got so far: Let's say I execute the following command in my bash shell: *echo $PATH* The output is below: *Douglass-MacBook-Pro-Mac-HD2:~ administrator$ echo $PATH* *//anaconda/bin:/Users/administrator/anaconda/bin:/Users/administrator/anaconda/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin* Now let's turn to IDLE for a moment. *import os* *print( os.getenv("PATH") )* *'/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin' #### NOT the same as above!!!* IDLE's $Path is obviously different from my Terminal's $Path, so when I'm in IDLE all those wonderful libraries in my Anaconda installation are invisible and inaccessible to Python from within IDLE. ( Interestingly enough, this is not an issue on my Ubuntu machine. Only an issue on my Mac. Hmmmm??? Why is that? ) If anyone can provide a solution I would be very grateful. Is there some way (using "os" or "sys" functions) that I can get IDLE to "see" my computer's complete path? 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Is there some > way (using "os" or "sys" functions) that I can get IDLE to "see" my > computer's complete path? I tried to find a solution on Stack Overflow, > but the stuff I found there was a little incoherent. How are you starting IDLE? If you are starting it from the Terminal, it should inherit the same $PATH. As for setting it within IDLE, you used os.getenv to see $PATH, try using os.putenv to set it: os.putenv("PATH","/anaconda/bin:/Users/administrator/anaconda/bin:/Users/administrator/anaconda/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin") -- David Rock david at graniteweb.com From d-lewit at neiu.edu Thu Oct 15 15:25:44 2015 From: d-lewit at neiu.edu (Lewit, Douglas) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 08:25:44 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Anaconda vs. IDLE. In-Reply-To: <20151015132143.GD9728@raspberrypi> References: <20151015132143.GD9728@raspberrypi> Message-ID: Hey David, I'll try this out. I gotta shut down the laptop and get to work! But thanks for the easy solution. I will try both suggestions can get back to you--probably tomorrow. Have a great day and thanks so much! On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 8:21 AM, David Rock wrote: > * Lewit, Douglas [2015-10-15 08:08]: > > > > > *//anaconda/bin:/Users/administrator/anaconda/bin:/Users/administrator/anaconda/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin* > > > > > > Now let's turn to IDLE for a moment. > > > > > > *import os* > > > > *print( os.getenv("PATH") )* > > > > > > *'/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin' #### NOT the same as above!!!* > > > > If anyone can provide a solution I would be very grateful. Is there some > > way (using "os" or "sys" functions) that I can get IDLE to "see" my > > computer's complete path? I tried to find a solution on Stack Overflow, > > but the stuff I found there was a little incoherent. > > > How are you starting IDLE? If you are starting it from the Terminal, it > should inherit the same $PATH. > > As for setting it within IDLE, you used os.getenv to see $PATH, try using > os.putenv to set it: > > > os.putenv("PATH","/anaconda/bin:/Users/administrator/anaconda/bin:/Users/administrator/anaconda/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin") > > > -- > David Rock > david at graniteweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shekay at pobox.com Thu Oct 15 15:31:43 2015 From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 08:31:43 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] \welcome Scientifc SIG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 4:25 PM, Loren Velasquez wrote: > Is there by any chance a bioinformatics/scientific open source project > happening that one could volunteer for? Just curious because I'm down if > there is. Always happy to help :D I don't know a lot of them, but there is the khmer project. http://khmer.readthedocs.org C Titus Brown is a good person to follow for bioinformatics stuff, like khmer. http://ivory.idyll.org/blog/ http://video.open-bio.org/video/1/a-history-of-bioinformatics-in-the-year-2039 http://pyvideo.org/speaker/190/c--titus-brown -- shekay at pobox.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shekay at pobox.com Thu Oct 15 16:03:57 2015 From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 09:03:57 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] \welcome Scientifc SIG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 4:25 PM, Loren Velasquez wrote: > Is there by any chance a bioinformatics/scientific open source project > happening that one could volunteer for? Just curious because I'm down if > there is. Always happy to help :D To follow up some more, there are endeavors all across the board of experience that people can follow. Do searches on open science and reproducible research. There are communities around both that result in projects like the Open Science Framework or communities of practice where people with devops skills can look at how researchers are learning to do "reproducible deployments" for their papers. The classical concept of literate programming comes from people writing reproducible papers. Mozilla Science Lab runs events where people get together to work on projects. Software Carpentry focuses on training scientists in learning enough programming and techniques to do research well. https://www.mozillascience.org/collaborate https://www.mozillascience.org/blog http://osc.centerforopenscience.org/2014/07/30/open-source-software-for-science/ https://cos.io/ https://cos.io/involved_participate/#tab_4 http://science.okfn.org/ http://numfocus.org/ There are conferences people can attend to learn more about how python and other languages (R, Julia, etc.) are used in research, http://pydata.org/ http://conference.scipy.org/ and they provide scholarships for people to attend and encourage participation. (I quit Orbitz to work with a prof at Columbia University of New York to work on reproducible science research and tools so I have scads of bookmarks) -- shekay at pobox.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It didn't produce any error message, but when I checked my $PATH with os.getenv( ) it was the same as before. I'm not entirely sure this is a pure Python problem. It could be a Mac OS-X problem too. As I mentioned earlier, this doesn't seem to be an issue on my Ubuntu machine. As for Windows, I have no idea. I normally do not use Windows unless I really have to. Thanks, Douglas. On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 8:25 AM, Lewit, Douglas wrote: > Hey David, > > I'll try this out. I gotta shut down the laptop and get to work! But > thanks for the easy solution. I will try both suggestions can get back to > you--probably tomorrow. > > Have a great day and thanks so much! > > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 8:21 AM, David Rock wrote: > >> * Lewit, Douglas [2015-10-15 08:08]: >> > >> > >> *//anaconda/bin:/Users/administrator/anaconda/bin:/Users/administrator/anaconda/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin* >> > >> > >> > Now let's turn to IDLE for a moment. >> > >> > >> > *import os* >> > >> > *print( os.getenv("PATH") )* >> > >> > >> > *'/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin' #### NOT the same as above!!!* >> > >> > If anyone can provide a solution I would be very grateful. Is there >> some >> > way (using "os" or "sys" functions) that I can get IDLE to "see" my >> > computer's complete path? I tried to find a solution on Stack Overflow, >> > but the stuff I found there was a little incoherent. >> >> >> How are you starting IDLE? If you are starting it from the Terminal, it >> should inherit the same $PATH. >> >> As for setting it within IDLE, you used os.getenv to see $PATH, try using >> os.putenv to set it: >> >> >> os.putenv("PATH","/anaconda/bin:/Users/administrator/anaconda/bin:/Users/administrator/anaconda/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin") >> >> >> -- >> David Rock >> david at graniteweb.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carl at personnelware.com Thu Oct 15 16:59:23 2015 From: carl at personnelware.com (Carl Karsten) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 09:59:23 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Anaconda vs. IDLE. In-Reply-To: References: <20151015132143.GD9728@raspberrypi> Message-ID: trying to follow what you are doing over different messages isn't easy, and likely skipping a detail that makes a difference. open a terminal show path run idle show path cut/paste all of that. should look about like this: Douglass-MacBook-Pro-Mac-HD2:~ administrator$ echo $PATH //anaconda/bin:/Users/administrator/anaconda/bin:/Users/administrator/anaconda/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin (run idle from prompt) import os print( os.getenv("PATH") ) On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Lewit, Douglas wrote: > Hey David, > > Your suggestions are good and logical, but unfortunately they don't work. I > tried opening IDLE from within Terminal, but that didn't help. I also tried > the "putenv" from the os library. It didn't produce any error message, but > when I checked my $PATH with os.getenv( ) it was the same as before. I'm > not entirely sure this is a pure Python problem. It could be a Mac OS-X > problem too. As I mentioned earlier, this doesn't seem to be an issue on my > Ubuntu machine. As for Windows, I have no idea. I normally do not use > Windows unless I really have to. > > Thanks, > > Douglas. > > > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 8:25 AM, Lewit, Douglas wrote: >> >> Hey David, >> >> I'll try this out. I gotta shut down the laptop and get to work! But >> thanks for the easy solution. I will try both suggestions can get back to >> you--probably tomorrow. >> >> Have a great day and thanks so much! >> >> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 8:21 AM, David Rock wrote: >>> >>> * Lewit, Douglas [2015-10-15 08:08]: >>> > >>> > >>> > *//anaconda/bin:/Users/administrator/anaconda/bin:/Users/administrator/anaconda/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin* >>> > >>> > >>> > Now let's turn to IDLE for a moment. >>> > >>> > >>> > *import os* >>> > >>> > *print( os.getenv("PATH") )* >>> > >>> > >>> > *'/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin' #### NOT the same as above!!!* >>> > >>> > If anyone can provide a solution I would be very grateful. Is there >>> > some >>> > way (using "os" or "sys" functions) that I can get IDLE to "see" my >>> > computer's complete path? I tried to find a solution on Stack >>> > Overflow, >>> > but the stuff I found there was a little incoherent. >>> >>> >>> How are you starting IDLE? If you are starting it from the Terminal, it >>> should inherit the same $PATH. >>> >>> As for setting it within IDLE, you used os.getenv to see $PATH, try using >>> os.putenv to set it: >>> >>> >>> os.putenv("PATH","/anaconda/bin:/Users/administrator/anaconda/bin:/Users/administrator/anaconda/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin") >>> >>> >>> -- >>> David Rock >>> david at graniteweb.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -- Carl K From d-lewit at neiu.edu Thu Oct 15 18:04:28 2015 From: d-lewit at neiu.edu (Lewit, Douglas) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 11:04:28 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Anaconda vs. IDLE. In-Reply-To: References: <20151015132143.GD9728@raspberrypi> Message-ID: Hi Carl, Thanks for trying to follow the messages. I know it's gotta be confusing. What you have is correct. That's my $PATH variable. Unfortunately what I have in IDLE is a somewhat truncated or incomplete $PATH variable, and that's why Python can't access certain libraries when I'm running Python in IDLE. (But in Anaconda everything is just fine. But for certain things I really do have a preference for IDLE.) I'm just not sure how to fix the problem. I opened up IDLE's preferences, but there's nothing there about changing the $PATH variable. The way I'm opening IDLE from the Terminal prompt.... could that be the problem? *open -a IDLE* That does indeed open up an IDLE shell. Is there a better way? Thanks. On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 9:59 AM, Carl Karsten wrote: > trying to follow what you are doing over different messages isn't > easy, and likely skipping a detail that makes a difference. > > open a terminal > show path > run idle > show path > > cut/paste all of that. > > should look about like this: > > Douglass-MacBook-Pro-Mac-HD2:~ administrator$ echo $PATH > > > //anaconda/bin:/Users/administrator/anaconda/bin:/Users/administrator/anaconda/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin > > (run idle from prompt) > > import os > print( os.getenv("PATH") ) > > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Lewit, Douglas wrote: > > Hey David, > > > > Your suggestions are good and logical, but unfortunately they don't > work. I > > tried opening IDLE from within Terminal, but that didn't help. I also > tried > > the "putenv" from the os library. It didn't produce any error message, > but > > when I checked my $PATH with os.getenv( ) it was the same as before. I'm > > not entirely sure this is a pure Python problem. It could be a Mac OS-X > > problem too. As I mentioned earlier, this doesn't seem to be an issue > on my > > Ubuntu machine. As for Windows, I have no idea. I normally do not use > > Windows unless I really have to. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Douglas. > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 8:25 AM, Lewit, Douglas > wrote: > >> > >> Hey David, > >> > >> I'll try this out. I gotta shut down the laptop and get to work! But > >> thanks for the easy solution. I will try both suggestions can get back > to > >> you--probably tomorrow. > >> > >> Have a great day and thanks so much! > >> > >> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 8:21 AM, David Rock > wrote: > >>> > >>> * Lewit, Douglas [2015-10-15 08:08]: > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > *//anaconda/bin:/Users/administrator/anaconda/bin:/Users/administrator/anaconda/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin* > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Now let's turn to IDLE for a moment. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > *import os* > >>> > > >>> > *print( os.getenv("PATH") )* > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > *'/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin' #### NOT the same as above!!!* > >>> > > >>> > If anyone can provide a solution I would be very grateful. Is there > >>> > some > >>> > way (using "os" or "sys" functions) that I can get IDLE to "see" my > >>> > computer's complete path? I tried to find a solution on Stack > >>> > Overflow, > >>> > but the stuff I found there was a little incoherent. > >>> > >>> > >>> How are you starting IDLE? If you are starting it from the Terminal, > it > >>> should inherit the same $PATH. > >>> > >>> As for setting it within IDLE, you used os.getenv to see $PATH, try > using > >>> os.putenv to set it: > >>> > >>> > >>> > os.putenv("PATH","/anaconda/bin:/Users/administrator/anaconda/bin:/Users/administrator/anaconda/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin") > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> David Rock > >>> david at graniteweb.com > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Chicago mailing list > >>> Chicago at python.org > >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > >> > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago mailing list > > Chicago at python.org > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > > > > > -- > Carl K > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jp at zavteq.com Thu Oct 15 18:44:25 2015 From: jp at zavteq.com (JP Bader) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 11:44:25 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Anaconda vs. IDLE. In-Reply-To: References: <20151015132143.GD9728@raspberrypi> Message-ID: > > Doug - > > As David mentioned, normally if you launch IDLE from bash (terminal, > iterm, etc), it should grab the path from your ~/.bashrc file. That said, > if you aren't finding it there, you could load it this way: > > import sys > sys.path.insert(0, '/home/user/lib/pythonX.X/site-packages') > > If you're launching IDLE directly, then you might want to edit the IDLE > settings to include your PATH. It should be in /usr/bin/idle > > Check against you're ubuntu, but you might have ~/.profile in ubuntu which > could have your PYTHONPATH. That might be what your OSX is missing? IDLE > doesn't look for ~/.bashrc, so that could be why it's not pulling it in. > > Good luck > > JP > > > > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Lewit, Douglas wrote: > >> Hey David, >> >> Your suggestions are good and logical, but unfortunately they don't >> work. I tried opening IDLE from within Terminal, but that didn't help. I >> also tried the "putenv" from the os library. It didn't produce any error >> message, but when I checked my $PATH with os.getenv( ) it was the same as >> before. I'm not entirely sure this is a pure Python problem. It could be >> a Mac OS-X problem too. As I mentioned earlier, this doesn't seem to be an >> issue on my Ubuntu machine. As for Windows, I have no idea. I normally do >> not use Windows unless I really have to. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Douglas. >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 8:25 AM, Lewit, Douglas wrote: >> >>> Hey David, >>> >>> I'll try this out. I gotta shut down the laptop and get to work! But >>> thanks for the easy solution. I will try both suggestions can get back to >>> you--probably tomorrow. >>> >>> Have a great day and thanks so much! >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 8:21 AM, David Rock >>> wrote: >>> >>>> * Lewit, Douglas [2015-10-15 08:08]: >>>> > >>>> > >>>> *//anaconda/bin:/Users/administrator/anaconda/bin:/Users/administrator/anaconda/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin* >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Now let's turn to IDLE for a moment. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > *import os* >>>> > >>>> > *print( os.getenv("PATH") )* >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > *'/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin' #### NOT the same as above!!!* >>>> > >>>> > If anyone can provide a solution I would be very grateful. Is there >>>> some >>>> > way (using "os" or "sys" functions) that I can get IDLE to "see" my >>>> > computer's complete path? I tried to find a solution on Stack >>>> Overflow, >>>> > but the stuff I found there was a little incoherent. >>>> >>>> >>>> How are you starting IDLE? If you are starting it from the Terminal, >>>> it should inherit the same $PATH. >>>> >>>> As for setting it within IDLE, you used os.getenv to see $PATH, try >>>> using os.putenv to set it: >>>> >>>> >>>> os.putenv("PATH","/anaconda/bin:/Users/administrator/anaconda/bin:/Users/administrator/anaconda/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin") >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> David Rock >>>> david at graniteweb.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Chicago mailing list >>>> Chicago at python.org >>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > > > -- > JP Bader > Principal > Next Health Choice, LLC > jp at nexthealthchoice.com | 312.614.1267 > > -- JP Bader Principal Zavteq, Inc. @lordB8r | jp at zavteq.com 608.692.2468 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tanya at tickel.net Thu Oct 15 19:23:07 2015 From: tanya at tickel.net (Tanya Schlusser) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 12:23:07 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Anaconda vs. IDLE. Message-ID: Hi Doug, IDLE is part of Python and should be bundled with every C implementation of Python. This includes Anaconda's version -- Anaconda's IDLE should be at: /anaconda/bin/idle which is currently the first place in your $PATH --- quote --- > Let's say I execute the following command in my bash shell: > > *echo $PATH* > > The output is below: > > *Douglass-MacBook-Pro-Mac-HD2:~ administrator$ echo $PATH* > > *//anaconda/bin:/Users/administrator/anaconda/bin:/Users/administrator/anaconda/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin* --- endquote --- If you launch idle from a terminal it should find the right one. Is there an icon you're using to launch IDLE? if so, that may be the problem. If all else fails, you can type this in a terminal: //anaconda/bin/idle and launch Anaconda's IDLE Also I may just not know what you're doing but I think Spyder, which was bundled (probably) with Anaconda, kick's Idle's behind in every way. From jp at zavteq.com Thu Oct 15 18:53:27 2015 From: jp at zavteq.com (JP Bader) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 11:53:27 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Anaconda vs. IDLE. In-Reply-To: References: <20151015132143.GD9728@raspberrypi> Message-ID: Doug - >*open -a IDLE* *>* >That does indeed open up an IDLE shell. Is there a better way? That's a loaded question (is there a better way), but I use Alfred to open up apps on OSX. >From bash I just typed idle and it launched. JP On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Lewit, Douglas wrote: > Hi Carl, > > Thanks for trying to follow the messages. I know it's gotta be > confusing. What you have is correct. That's my $PATH variable. > Unfortunately what I have in IDLE is a somewhat truncated or incomplete > $PATH variable, and that's why Python can't access certain libraries when > I'm running Python in IDLE. (But in Anaconda everything is just fine. But > for certain things I really do have a preference for IDLE.) I'm just not > sure how to fix the problem. I opened up IDLE's preferences, but there's > nothing there about changing the $PATH variable. > > The way I'm opening IDLE from the Terminal prompt.... could that be the > problem? > > *open -a IDLE* > > That does indeed open up an IDLE shell. Is there a better way? > > Thanks. > > > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 9:59 AM, Carl Karsten > wrote: > >> trying to follow what you are doing over different messages isn't >> easy, and likely skipping a detail that makes a difference. >> >> open a terminal >> show path >> run idle >> show path >> >> cut/paste all of that. >> >> should look about like this: >> >> Douglass-MacBook-Pro-Mac-HD2:~ administrator$ echo $PATH >> >> >> //anaconda/bin:/Users/administrator/anaconda/bin:/Users/administrator/anaconda/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin >> >> (run idle from prompt) >> >> import os >> print( os.getenv("PATH") ) >> >> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Lewit, Douglas wrote: >> > Hey David, >> > >> > Your suggestions are good and logical, but unfortunately they don't >> work. I >> > tried opening IDLE from within Terminal, but that didn't help. I also >> tried >> > the "putenv" from the os library. It didn't produce any error message, >> but >> > when I checked my $PATH with os.getenv( ) it was the same as before. >> I'm >> > not entirely sure this is a pure Python problem. It could be a Mac OS-X >> > problem too. As I mentioned earlier, this doesn't seem to be an issue >> on my >> > Ubuntu machine. As for Windows, I have no idea. I normally do not use >> > Windows unless I really have to. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > Douglas. >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 8:25 AM, Lewit, Douglas >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hey David, >> >> >> >> I'll try this out. I gotta shut down the laptop and get to work! But >> >> thanks for the easy solution. I will try both suggestions can get >> back to >> >> you--probably tomorrow. >> >> >> >> Have a great day and thanks so much! >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 8:21 AM, David Rock >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> * Lewit, Douglas [2015-10-15 08:08]: >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> *//anaconda/bin:/Users/administrator/anaconda/bin:/Users/administrator/anaconda/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin* >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > Now let's turn to IDLE for a moment. >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > *import os* >> >>> > >> >>> > *print( os.getenv("PATH") )* >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > *'/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin' #### NOT the same as above!!!* >> >>> > >> >>> > If anyone can provide a solution I would be very grateful. Is there >> >>> > some >> >>> > way (using "os" or "sys" functions) that I can get IDLE to "see" my >> >>> > computer's complete path? I tried to find a solution on Stack >> >>> > Overflow, >> >>> > but the stuff I found there was a little incoherent. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> How are you starting IDLE? If you are starting it from the Terminal, >> it >> >>> should inherit the same $PATH. >> >>> >> >>> As for setting it within IDLE, you used os.getenv to see $PATH, try >> using >> >>> os.putenv to set it: >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> os.putenv("PATH","/anaconda/bin:/Users/administrator/anaconda/bin:/Users/administrator/anaconda/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin") >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> David Rock >> >>> david at graniteweb.com >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Chicago mailing list >> >>> Chicago at python.org >> >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Chicago mailing list >> > Chicago at python.org >> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Carl K >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -- JP Bader Principal Zavteq, Inc. @lordB8r | jp at zavteq.com 608.692.2468 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: <20151015132143.GD9728@raspberrypi> Message-ID: <20151016000956.GG9728@raspberrypi> * JP Bader [2015-10-15 11:53]: > Doug - > > >*open -a IDLE* > *>* > >That does indeed open up an IDLE shell. Is there a better way? > That's a loaded question (is there a better way), but I use Alfred to open > up apps on OSX. > > From bash I just typed idle and it launched. I guess a couple more questions... 1. What python are you using (MacOS bundled, python.org,other)? 2. What MacOS? and just typing idle works for me as well. On my system, it's running /usr/bin/idle I don't have any anaconda installs, so not a good comparison, but definitely have more than just a bare-bones path Python 2.7.10 (default, Aug 22 2015, 20:33:39) [GCC 4.2.1 Compatible Apple LLVM 7.0.0 (clang-700.0.59.1)] on darwin Type "copyright", "credits" or "license()" for more information. >>> WARNING: The version of Tcl/Tk (8.5.9) in use may be unstable. Visit http://www.python.org/download/mac/tcltk/ for current information. >>> import os >>> os.getenv("PATH") '/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/opt/X11/bin:/usr/local/MacGPG2/bin' >>> -- David Rock david at graniteweb.com From d-lewit at neiu.edu Fri Oct 16 04:14:01 2015 From: d-lewit at neiu.edu (Lewit, Douglas) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 21:14:01 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Anaconda vs. IDLE. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wow, a lot of replies! Thanks so much guys. Much appreciated. Here's my strategy. I think from now on I'm going to use the IDLE that comes bundled with Anaconda. (Thanks Tanya.) Before I was using the IDLE that I just downloaded from www.python.org. For some reason that particular app is "blind" to all the great libraries in Anaconda. But I did some fishing around in my Anaconda files and discovered IDLE, and was like, YES!!!! Quickie question before I forget. What's the deal with "ipython notebook". I mean it's great. I get a notebook that opens up in my default browser, and it works really well. BUT... if I save the file and reopen it later on, then.... it looks like crapola and I can barely read it. I think it's got a default extension of .ipynb. One last thing, although it's not exactly a Python question. I'm reading up on some network security stuff, (and yes, Python has some great built-in tools related to network security ) and there's something I just don't get. Telnet vs. SSH. Telnet is not secure. We all know that, right? SSH uses this public key/private key approach which is extremely secure. (Unless of course you can magically factor gigantic prime integers in just a few seconds, which is currently beyond even our best computers.) Okay, could someone please explain to me why anyone these days would use Telnet. ( I think the other unsecure protocol is Rhc or rhc? ) Why isn't everyone using SSH? I don't get it. Not exactly a Python question, but.... I am kind of curious about that. Okay, thanks! Douglas. On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 12:23 PM, Tanya Schlusser wrote: > Hi Doug, IDLE is part of Python and should be bundled with every C > implementation of Python. This includes Anaconda's version -- > Anaconda's IDLE should be at: > > /anaconda/bin/idle > > which is currently the first place in your $PATH > > --- quote --- > > Let's say I execute the following command in my bash shell: > > > > *echo $PATH* > > > > The output is below: > > > > *Douglass-MacBook-Pro-Mac-HD2:~ administrator$ echo $PATH* > > > > > *//anaconda/bin:/Users/administrator/anaconda/bin:/Users/administrator/anaconda/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin* > --- endquote --- > > > If you launch idle from a terminal it should find the right one. Is > there an icon you're using to launch IDLE? if so, that may be the > problem. > > If all else fails, you can type this in a terminal: > > //anaconda/bin/idle > > and launch Anaconda's IDLE > > > Also I may just not know what you're doing but I think Spyder, which > was bundled (probably) with Anaconda, kick's Idle's behind in every > way. > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From zitterbewegung at gmail.com Fri Oct 16 04:15:05 2015 From: zitterbewegung at gmail.com (Joshua Herman) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 21:15:05 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Astronomical image processing In-Reply-To: <50869A74BA4F07468AD797C9BFF1FE3E0D983192@A0185-XPO1026-C.ad.allstate.com> References: <50869A74BA4F07468AD797C9BFF1FE3E0D983192@A0185-XPO1026-C.ad.allstate.com> Message-ID: Has anyone used scikit-image for anything? I am going to use it for a project and I was just wondering if anyone has any knowledge. On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 6:01 PM, Robare, Phillip (TEKSystems) < proba at allstate.com> wrote: > NASA has some new images of Pluto?s moons that they released last week. > What makes this Python news is the last paragraph of the blog post that > describes how they managed to get sharper, cleaner images using AstroPy and > Scikit-Image. > > > > https://blogs.nasa.gov/pluto/2015/10/05/plutos-small-moons-nix-and-hydra/ > > > > Phil Robare > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shekay at pobox.com Fri Oct 16 16:56:45 2015 From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 09:56:45 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Anaconda vs. IDLE. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 9:14 PM, Lewit, Douglas wrote: > Quickie question before I forget. What's the deal with "ipython > notebook". I mean it's great. I get a notebook that opens up in my > default browser, and it works really well. BUT... if I save the file and > reopen it later on, then.... it looks like crapola and I can barely read > it. I think it's got a default extension of .ipynb. You need to open it up in an ipython notebook session that is running in a browser or IDE like Spyder and not with a text editor or just a browser. As for "what's the deal", there are many reasons why people use them and you need to ask a less open ended question if you want to know why you would use it. This blog post can give insights for just one reason why people find notebooks transformative https://developer.rackspace.com/blog/how-did-we-serve-more-than-20000-ipython-notebooks-for-nature/ -- shekay at pobox.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mandel01 at gmail.com Thu Oct 15 16:51:58 2015 From: mandel01 at gmail.com (Mark Mandel) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 09:51:58 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] \welcome Scientifc SIG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <598A230A-5B33-48D3-AD53-39BDFBE563CE@gmail.com> Hi Loren, Sheila?s links look great for substantial projects. If you (or other folks) might be interested in having a significant impact and shaping the direction of a new project I would put in a plug in for the work I talked about at ChiPy last week: https://github.com/mandel01/pyinseq We are a small local lab, and right now I am the only one working on the software side. We are looking to build resources and would love help. If there are steps I could take to describe our objectives and ambitions more clearly I?d be happy to do so in whatever manner is most useful. We are at very early stages, but looking ahead are eager to incorporate into larger projects and maximize the impact of the work. Regards, Mark > On Oct 15, 2015, at 9:03 AM, sheila miguez wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 4:25 PM, Loren Velasquez > wrote: > Is there by any chance a bioinformatics/scientific open source project happening that one could volunteer for? Just curious because I'm down if there is. Always happy to help :D > > To follow up some more, there are endeavors all across the board of experience that people can follow. Do searches on open science and reproducible research. There are communities around both that result in projects like the Open Science Framework or communities of practice where people with devops skills can look at how researchers are learning to do "reproducible deployments" for their papers. The classical concept of literate programming comes from people writing reproducible papers. Mozilla Science Lab runs events where people get together to work on projects. Software Carpentry focuses on training scientists in learning enough programming and techniques to do research well. > > https://www.mozillascience.org/collaborate > https://www.mozillascience.org/blog > http://osc.centerforopenscience.org/2014/07/30/open-source-software-for-science/ > https://cos.io/ > https://cos.io/involved_participate/#tab_4 > http://science.okfn.org/ > http://numfocus.org/ > > There are conferences people can attend to learn more about how python and other languages (R, Julia, etc.) are used in research, http://pydata.org/ http://conference.scipy.org/ and they provide scholarships for people to attend and encourage participation. > > > (I quit Orbitz to work with a prof at Columbia University of New York to work on reproducible science research and tools so I have scads of bookmarks) > > > -- > shekay at pobox.com _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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There are communities around both that result in > projects like the Open Science Framework or communities of practice where > people with devops skills can look at how researchers are learning to do > "reproducible deployments" for their papers. The classical concept of > literate programming comes from people writing reproducible papers. Mozilla > Science Lab runs events where people get together to work on projects. > Software Carpentry focuses on training scientists in learning enough > programming and techniques to do research well. > > https://www.mozillascience.org/collaborate > https://www.mozillascience.org/blog > > http://osc.centerforopenscience.org/2014/07/30/open-source-software-for-science/ > https://cos.io/ > https://cos.io/involved_participate/#tab_4 > http://science.okfn.org/ > http://numfocus.org/ > > There are conferences people can attend to learn more about how python and > other languages (R, Julia, etc.) are used in research, http://pydata.org/ > http://conference.scipy.org/ and they provide scholarships for people to > attend and encourage participation. > > > (I quit Orbitz to work with a prof at Columbia University of New York to > work on reproducible science research and tools so I have scads of > bookmarks) > > > -- > shekay at pobox.com > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This includes Anaconda's version -- > Anaconda's IDLE should be at: > > /anaconda/bin/idle > > which is currently the first place in your $PATH > > --- quote --- > > Let's say I execute the following command in my bash shell: > > > > *echo $PATH* > > > > The output is below: > > > > *Douglass-MacBook-Pro-Mac-HD2:~ administrator$ echo $PATH* > > > > > *//anaconda/bin:/Users/administrator/anaconda/bin:/Users/administrator/anaconda/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin* > --- endquote --- > > > If you launch idle from a terminal it should find the right one. Is > there an icon you're using to launch IDLE? if so, that may be the > problem. > > If all else fails, you can type this in a terminal: > > //anaconda/bin/idle > > and launch Anaconda's IDLE > > > Also I may just not know what you're doing but I think Spyder, which > was bundled (probably) with Anaconda, kick's Idle's behind in every > way. > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From benjamini at gmail.com Thu Oct 15 23:47:51 2015 From: benjamini at gmail.com (Ben V) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 16:47:51 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] \welcome Scientifc SIG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: There are a lot of open source python bioinformatics projects, but the open source project that immediately comes to mind is biopython: https://github.com/biopython/biopython Which is a very useful general bioinformatics toolkit for python. On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 4:25 PM, Loren Velasquez wrote: > Is there by any chance a bioinformatics/scientific open source project > happening that one could volunteer for? Just curious because I'm down if > there is. Always happy to help :D > > Best Regards, > Loren > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 4:20 PM, Joshua Herman > wrote: > >> I am trying to get space at UIC to host the event. >> >> On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 12:22 PM, sheila miguez wrote: >> >>> This is really neat. We have python people at my hackerspace who are >>> also interested in data science and the scientific python stack. We don't >>> have space for a large event, but if a group of <30 people want to have a >>> talk or give a presentation or demo about something, I would be happy to >>> try and find a time for an event. I'd really like something like "teach me >>> pandas" in the style of what Steve Holden did with twisted at pycon >>> 2009(?). I don't to be Steve as I am not as lively. 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We can > figure out the logistics but I am more hands on these days :) > > Brian > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d-lewit at neiu.edu Sat Oct 17 04:30:16 2015 From: d-lewit at neiu.edu (Lewit, Douglas) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 21:30:16 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Anaconda vs. IDLE. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ipython qtconsole? Thanks Peter. I'll try it. Thanks so much! Python by itself is really cool, but I also think the language is greatly strengthened by the various IDE's and third-party libraries that help support the language. They are definitely big bonuses for the language. On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 1:02 PM, Pete[r] Landwehr wrote: > In addition to Spyder, but more in the vein of IDLE, there's the QT > console for iPython, which is similar to running ipython directly in the > terminal but adds mouse support and some other extra jazz; you can start it > with "ipython qtconsole". (See > https://ipython.org/ipython-doc/2/interactive/qtconsole.html) > > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Tanya Schlusser wrote: > >> Hi Doug, IDLE is part of Python and should be bundled with every C >> implementation of Python. This includes Anaconda's version -- >> Anaconda's IDLE should be at: >> >> /anaconda/bin/idle >> >> which is currently the first place in your $PATH >> >> --- quote --- >> > Let's say I execute the following command in my bash shell: >> > >> > *echo $PATH* >> > >> > The output is below: >> > >> > *Douglass-MacBook-Pro-Mac-HD2:~ administrator$ echo $PATH* >> > >> > >> *//anaconda/bin:/Users/administrator/anaconda/bin:/Users/administrator/anaconda/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin* >> --- endquote --- >> >> >> If you launch idle from a terminal it should find the right one. Is >> there an icon you're using to launch IDLE? if so, that may be the >> problem. >> >> If all else fails, you can type this in a terminal: >> >> //anaconda/bin/idle >> >> and launch Anaconda's IDLE >> >> >> Also I may just not know what you're doing but I think Spyder, which >> was bundled (probably) with Anaconda, kick's Idle's behind in every >> way. >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'll contact you separately from mailing list, just didn't want my email to come from out of the blue. - Dan On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 11:56 PM, Mark Graves wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Related to this, I just got word from a pharmaceutical company that I work > with that they would be okay releasing the code I wrote for their > bibliography management system as open source, as well as their data from > the bibliography. > > If anyone is interested in contributing to this, I'd love to sit down and > talk. > > It would provide a good exercise in data munging and data visualization. > > After I scrub the code, I will release it and let you all know. > > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Brian Ray wrote: > >> Safia: >> >> For now, if you or anyone else is interested in helping organize, just >> email me off the list. I will set up a google hangout to discuss. We can >> figure out the logistics but I am more hands on these days :) >> >> Brian >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lm.velasquez12 at gmail.com Sat Oct 17 16:58:25 2015 From: lm.velasquez12 at gmail.com (Loren Velasquez) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 09:58:25 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] help pypi do usability testing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Tanya! I'm down to help! Best Regards, Loren On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 9:12 AM, Tanya Schlusser wrote: > Hi -- if you are going to be available for an hour in late November and > want to help Python, they need some people of all different levels to test > some changes to the PyPI interface (Python Package Index -- where pip gets > the community packages) > > Details and the list of system needs are here: http://t.co/Dwcp6quXiM > > woot. > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From zitterbewegung at gmail.com Sat Oct 17 21:22:30 2015 From: zitterbewegung at gmail.com (Joshua Herman) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 19:22:30 +0000 Subject: [Chicago] help pypi do usability testing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'll help too! On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 10:18 AM Loren Velasquez wrote: > Hi Tanya! I'm down to help! > > Best Regards, > Loren > > On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 9:12 AM, Tanya Schlusser wrote: > >> Hi -- if you are going to be available for an hour in late November and >> want to help Python, they need some people of all different levels to test >> some changes to the PyPI interface (Python Package Index -- where pip gets >> the community packages) >> >> Details and the list of system needs are here: http://t.co/Dwcp6quXiM >> >> woot. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From zitterbewegung at gmail.com Sat Oct 17 22:53:44 2015 From: zitterbewegung at gmail.com (Joshua Herman) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 20:53:44 +0000 Subject: [Chicago] Anaconda vs. IDLE. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: making a computer language friendly to use is quite hard people have been doing it for the last 65 years On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 7:30 PM Lewit, Douglas wrote: > ipython qtconsole? Thanks Peter. I'll try it. Thanks so much! Python > by itself is really cool, but I also think the language is greatly > strengthened by the various IDE's and third-party libraries that help > support the language. They are definitely big bonuses for the language. > > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 1:02 PM, Pete[r] Landwehr > wrote: > >> In addition to Spyder, but more in the vein of IDLE, there's the QT >> console for iPython, which is similar to running ipython directly in the >> terminal but adds mouse support and some other extra jazz; you can start it >> with "ipython qtconsole". (See >> https://ipython.org/ipython-doc/2/interactive/qtconsole.html) >> >> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Tanya Schlusser >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Doug, IDLE is part of Python and should be bundled with every C >>> implementation of Python. This includes Anaconda's version -- >>> Anaconda's IDLE should be at: >>> >>> /anaconda/bin/idle >>> >>> which is currently the first place in your $PATH >>> >>> --- quote --- >>> > Let's say I execute the following command in my bash shell: >>> > >>> > *echo $PATH* >>> > >>> > The output is below: >>> > >>> > *Douglass-MacBook-Pro-Mac-HD2:~ administrator$ echo $PATH* >>> > >>> > >>> *//anaconda/bin:/Users/administrator/anaconda/bin:/Users/administrator/anaconda/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin* >>> --- endquote --- >>> >>> >>> If you launch idle from a terminal it should find the right one. 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I'm down to help! >> >> Best Regards, >> Loren >> >> On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 9:12 AM, Tanya Schlusser >> wrote: >> >>> Hi -- if you are going to be available for an hour in late November and >>> want to help Python, they need some people of all different levels to test >>> some changes to the PyPI interface (Python Package Index -- where pip gets >>> the community packages) >>> >>> Details and the list of system needs are here: http://t.co/Dwcp6quXiM >>> >>> woot. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Chicago mailing list >>> Chicago at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 11:36 PM, David Matsumura wrote: > Hi ChiPy, > > The Finance SIG will be holding it's next meeting Monday the 26th. Our own > Jason Wirth will be breaking down an open source backtesting platform > called zipline. We will meet @ Braintree - 6PM. Hope to see you there. > > http://www.meetup.com/_ChiPy_/events/226177747/ > > Best Regards, > David > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago mailing list > Chicago at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From adamkyala at gmail.com Wed Oct 21 14:05:39 2015 From: adamkyala at gmail.com (Adam Yala) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 07:05:39 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Finance SIG - Backtesting - Monday the 26th In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: @Douglas To get into Braintree you have to register with the link David provided. Be sure to put your full name in, the security guard on the 8th floor of the Merchandise Mart will need it. On Wednesday, October 21, 2015, Lewit, Douglas wrote: > Hi David, > > Can I just show up? Or do I have to register for the event? Thanks. > > On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 11:36 PM, David Matsumura > wrote: > >> Hi ChiPy, >> >> The Finance SIG will be holding it's next meeting Monday the 26th. Our >> own Jason Wirth will be breaking down an open source backtesting platform >> called zipline. We will meet @ Braintree - 6PM. Hope to see you there. >> >> http://www.meetup.com/_ChiPy_/events/226177747/ >> >> Best Regards, >> David >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago mailing list >> Chicago at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pdp7pdp7 at gmail.com Wed Oct 21 17:33:32 2015 From: pdp7pdp7 at gmail.com (Drew Fustini) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 10:33:32 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] Hardware design with Python Message-ID: Pretty interesting to see Python used for FPGA and ASIC design: http://m-labs.hk/gateware.html Originally developed for Milkymist it seems. HDMI2USB using it now. Also used for quantum physics lab! cheers, drew From brianhray at gmail.com Thu Oct 22 14:18:06 2015 From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 07:18:06 -0500 Subject: [Chicago] ChiPy Design T-Shirt Contest In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I just saw this https://teespring.com/linuxissexy. Reminds me that submissions can be fun/funny. On Tuesday, October 13, 2015, Joe Jasinski wrote: > Hey all, > > ChiPy is still looking for submissions for a ChiPy T-shirt design. I've > also created a page on the ChiPy > website so you can easily share the details of the competition with your > friends. > > To submit, I've created a dropbox location to upload files to. Note: you > do not need a Dropbox account to submit. > > https://www.dropbox.com/request/V7UapyG5u7CoQGeXB2US > > If you are looking for inspiration, see some of the examples below from > recent Python-related T-shirts. > > > - Djangocon 2015 > > - OpenStack T-Shirt Contest > > - Django 1.7 Release Shirt > - Django 1.8 Release Shirt > > > > We look forward to seeing your designs! > > > On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 11:06 PM, Joe Jasinski > wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> ChiPy is planning on creating an official ChiPy T-shirt, and we are >> looking for your help! >> >> We'd like to open up the T-shirt design process to the ChiPy community >> (and friends) and make a contest of T-shirt design submissions. Once we >> have enough artwork submissions, we as a ChiPy community will vote on the >> design that we'd like to print. >> >> The winner of the vote will win 2 free T-shirts with the design! The >> winning design will be printed on the front of a white T-shirt. >> >> Here are the requirements for the artwork. The artwork... >> >> - should relate to the Python and ChiPy community (with the ChiPy name >> or logo) >> - can use any number of colors >> - should be in PDF or PNG file format at 300DPI. (EPS or AI file format >> would also work) >> - should fit within a 12x12 inch print region >> >> Please email me your artwork submission and I look forward to seeing some >> creative ChiPy T-shirt designs! >> >> Joe >> >> >> -- >> Joe J. Jasinski >> www.joejasinski.com >> > > > > -- > Joe J. Jasinski > www.joejasinski.com > -- Brian Ray @brianray (773) 669-7717 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If you RSVP'd but can't come please update your RSVP so we can let in someone from the wait list. As a bonus we have another meeting on November 6th. Dr Jess Stauth from Quantopian will be in town and we will hear her speak about the Quantopian crowd sourced hedge fund. You can RSVP here . The meeting will be at 6PM at Blue1647. Hope to see you there. David -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davidkunio at gmail.com Tue Oct 27 23:26:43 2015 From: davidkunio at gmail.com (David Matsumura) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 03:26:43 +0000 Subject: [Chicago] Finance SIG: Bonus Meeting Message-ID: Hi ChiPy, We had a great meeting @braintree yesterday. Jason Wirth broke down an open source equity backtesting tool called zipline. In the first meeting we talked about building algorithms in the Quantopian IDE, we talked about the structure of a backtesting engine last night and we will continue to discuss other investment strategies in the future. 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Message-ID: *Happy Halloween ChiPy!* *I was messing around with a program to find prime numbers up to a user-entered upper limit. To that end I employed the "filter" command in the spirit of functional programming. The function I passed to the filter command was my named function, "primeFunc", which contains and if-elif-else structure. I tried passing an unnamed (i.e. anonymous) function to the filter command, but noticed that if the anonymous function (declared as a lambda expression) contains an if-elif-else structure, then Python returns an error. So here's my question for anyone who may have a solution. Is there a way to pass to filter a lambda expression or any other type of anonymous function that contains various conditional expressions? Is there a way? What I did works quite nicely of course, but.... it would be nice to do the same thing with an unnamed or anonymous function rather than using a previously programmer-defined (or named) function.* *Thanks and Happy Halloween!!! 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