[Chicago] Sympy for Python 3 ???

Randy Baxley randy7771026 at gmail.com
Fri Oct 2 19:26:58 CEST 2015 

Thank you Allen.

On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 10:00 PM, Allan Spale <allan2600 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Could you please refrain from posting references insulting people with
> special needs.
>
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 7:22 AM Mike Tamillow <mikaeltamillow96 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X6WHBO_Qc-Q
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 29, 2015, at 9:51 PM, Lewit, Douglas <d-lewit at neiu.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Hey Will,
>>
>> Yep, I know you're right.  I gotta do some networking and meet the right
>> people who can help me with my future plans to become the greatest
>> programmer in the world!  Sarcasm intended.  I'll be happy if I can become
>> the greatest programmer in my neighborhood!!!  :-)
>>
>> I sometimes have Sundays free, so right now I'm going to try to attend
>> some of Lane's Sunday Django meetings.  Besides, I really NEED to learn
>> some serious web development.  So far all I know is Big-O, sorting, the
>> knapsack problem, addition algorithm, KNN-algorithm for machine learning,
>> some divide and conquer stuff, some Unix/Linux stuff, you get the idea.
>> But networking, security, and web development.... you know, how programmers
>> really make their living, so far I know very little about that stuff.  I
>> gotta learn the practical stuff in order to get that paycheck.  Besides, it
>> looks fun!
>>
>> I promise Will.... I will do my best to attend some meet-ups.  I just
>> hope nobody looks at my programming work and says, "Oh god, there's our
>> little Python retard!"  If I end up becoming the Forrest Gump of ChiPy, I
>> won't attend any of the meetings!!!!   :-)
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 9:31 PM, William E. S. Clemens <
>> wesclemens at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Doug,
>>>
>>> I strongly recommend that you make time to come to some events. One of
>>> biggest strengths of Python is the amazing community behind it.  I know
>>> that there are events on Monday, Wednesday, Thursday and Sunday every
>>> month. I think that you will find the Chicago group to be extremely
>>> friendly and helpful. It is a great group of people to know if you are
>>> looking at getting into professional Python development in Chicago post
>>> graduation.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Will
>>>
>>> --
>>> William Clemens
>>> Phone: 847.485.9455
>>> E-mail: wesclemens at gmail.com
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 8:56 PM, Lewit, Douglas <d-lewit at neiu.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Joshua,
>>>>
>>>> My first name is Doug or Douglas, NOT Lewit!!!!  LOL!!!!
>>>>
>>>> It seems like Project Night is usually on a Thursday night, right?
>>>> Right now my Thursday nights look a little busy.  Although I would probably
>>>> learn more from Project Night than my Informatics professor, but.... he's
>>>> got that* PhD*, and I guess those three magic letters means he knows
>>>> everything about computer science, right?   :-)
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 8:11 PM, Joshua Herman <
>>>> zitterbewegung at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear lewit,
>>>>> When do you have time to go to events like project nights in general ?
>>>>> Do you live on campus all of the time? What about going on a weekend or
>>>>> during winter break?
>>>>> Sincerely
>>>>> Joshua herman
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 8:05 PM Lewit, Douglas <d-lewit at neiu.edu>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Exactly!  I'm a little nervous about changing my $PATH variable
>>>>>> because I'm definitely NOT a Unix administrator!  I mean.... I know the
>>>>>> basics, like cd, cp, mv, ls, ls -ld -- */, ls | wc -l, and some other cool
>>>>>> stuff.  But changing $PATH is a little scary to me!  On the rare occasion
>>>>>> when I do that stuff, I always use Emacs as my text editor.  The great
>>>>>> thing about Emacs is that when you edit a file, Emacs saves the original
>>>>>> with a tilde following the name of the file.  So if I want to edit bash.rc
>>>>>> I end up with bash.rc and bash.rc~.  If I totally screwed up bash.rc, then
>>>>>> I just do this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> mv bash.rc~ bash.rc
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That restores the previous bash.rc file.  It overwrites the messed up
>>>>>> file with the original correct file.  BUT in general I'm very nervous about
>>>>>> doing system changes like that.  I tried doing a dual boot of Ubuntu and
>>>>>> Kali Linux a while back.  Big mistake!!!!  I mistakenly deleted the grub
>>>>>> file and then I was really SCREWED!!!!  I had to do a fresh install of
>>>>>> Ubuntu on my hard drive.  That wasn't fun!  (Ubuntu is pretty easy to
>>>>>> install.  Kali Linux is NOT easy to install unless you know a lot about
>>>>>> networking, protocols, and other stuff that is currently beyond my
>>>>>> knowledge of modern computation.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would love to attend a Python Project Night.  The problem is that
>>>>>> those are always scheduled for a Thursday night.  That's when I have my
>>>>>> Informatics class.  And since the class meets up once a week, missing a
>>>>>> class for Python Project Night is probably not a smart move on my part.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh hey there Safia!  Thanks for writing.  Much appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:57 PM, William E. S. Clemens <
>>>>>> wesclemens at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Os.chdir( ) is not what your looking for you need to add the path
>>>>>>> for your Anaconda packages to the sys.path list. That being said its
>>>>>>> generally not a good idea to mess with sys.path unless you know what your
>>>>>>> doing. It will almost surely break your code portability.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you need help setting up Python I would suggest that you go to
>>>>>>> Project Night. They are a great group of people and I'm sure they would be
>>>>>>> more then happy to get you started down the right path.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.meetup.com/ChicagoPythonistas/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> William Clemens
>>>>>>> Phone: 847.485.9455
>>>>>>> E-mail: wesclemens at gmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Joshua Herman <
>>>>>>> zitterbewegung at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How do people generally learn python? I think I have progressed in
>>>>>>>> the following manner.
>>>>>>>> 0. Don't know what python is (First experience was from Carl
>>>>>>>> Karsten telling me the general syntax rules.
>>>>>>>> 1. Start by using python script on the command line
>>>>>>>> 2. Play with IDLE / other IDEs/ Scripting
>>>>>>>> 4. Use python at school at the compbio laboratory and Alcatel Lucen
>>>>>>>> 5. Learn what virtualenv is and make them
>>>>>>>> 6. Learn what ipython is and use ipython
>>>>>>>> 7. Play with anaconda
>>>>>>>> 8. I am here
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Python is generally batteries included. Should ipython be a better
>>>>>>>> starting point for people who install python? I think more scientific/
>>>>>>>> financial oriented people are doing the following.
>>>>>>>> 1. Get exposed to python to apply to work
>>>>>>>> 2. Use ipython by installing using anaconda and use it in a
>>>>>>>> browser? possibly you don't even have a local install of python .
>>>>>>>> Now the person's goals will cause them to make a decision.
>>>>>>>> ?. Start by using python script on the command line
>>>>>>>> ?. Play with IDLE / other IDEs/ Scripting
>>>>>>>> ?. Learn what virtualenv is and make them
>>>>>>>> ?. Do web development
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think that if more people are doing the second path maybe we
>>>>>>>> should introduce python the second way instead of the first. For one reason
>>>>>>>> setting up ipython or some notebook interface on some cloud server is
>>>>>>>> probably going to become more common. The first way that people seem to
>>>>>>>> learn python takes much more steps to do interesting things and once a
>>>>>>>> person is hooked on python then they can learn the other steps.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 12:16 PM, sheila miguez <shekay at pobox.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Lewit, Douglas <d-lewit at neiu.edu
>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think my answer was way too long!  Sorry!  Just trying to
>>>>>>>>>> explain what's going on.  I just wish there was a way that I could get IDLE
>>>>>>>>>> to access all the modules that Anaconda can access.  Not really sure how to
>>>>>>>>>> do it without tearing apart my operating system.  (And I really don't want
>>>>>>>>>> to do that! )  I must say
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is where the google it answer is helpful. A lot of times I'll
>>>>>>>>> have a question like this and will google and see some related stack
>>>>>>>>> overflow questions among other things. For this case I googled: using idle
>>>>>>>>> in anaconda
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That pulled up a mailing list discussion on the anaconda mailing
>>>>>>>>> list. It's an interesting thread, and you can see the devs saying that IDLE
>>>>>>>>> should be given better support. So that is nice for you to hear.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/continuum.io/d/msg/anaconda/Dr8xFdKbA20/MWvhTO4KF8wJ
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The stack overflow response is
>>>>>>>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/26047185/import-anaconda-packages-to-idle
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Someone had the same problem you did. Try out the answer. It
>>>>>>>>> involves changing PATH, which is a normal kind of thing to do in an OS, and
>>>>>>>>> you won't need to worry about ripping apart your operating system. I don't
>>>>>>>>> know if the answer works, but it something to try.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> shekay at pobox.com
>>>>>>>>>
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