[Chicago] WiPhone, a phone you can program in Python

[Michael Tamillow]

Well, I don’t imagine you will change your mind. But I do think it is a poorly constructed argument to reference previous discussions that you can’t find.

Happy Easter!

> On Apr 20, 2019, at 10:02 PM, Rob Kapteyn <robkapteyn at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> This is an issue that has been discussed before.
> I did a quick search and couldn't find it.
> 
> "Python" is a trademark of the PSF.
> It is not just a language syntax.
> Python has always been promoted as the language with "batteries included".
> That generally means that it MUST be shipped WITH the standard library.
> 
> Micropython does not ship with the full standard library.
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 8:53 PM Michael Tamillow <mikaeltamillow96 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Rob, why would you say micropython is not python?
>> 
>> Python is a language, not an interpreter - not all the packages and code that are compatible with version X.X.X
>> 
>> With that type of argument, we could say python 2, 3 Rpython, or even Cpython may not be python.
>> 
>> Python is a language - it’s existence on a piece of paper is still python.
>> 
>> What core python syntax would look different on paper when writing micropython? 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 20, 2019, at 7:55 PM, Rob Kapteyn <robkapteyn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am actually a backer on a similar Kickstarter, a phone that DOES come with a cellular modem (either 2G or 4G):
>>> 
>>> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/albertgajsak/makerphone-an-educational-diy-mobile-phone
>>> 
>>> I am still waiting for it, but it is supposed to ship any day now.
>>> 
>>> I do have a complaint however  ---
>>> DO NOT ADVERTISE "MICROPYTHON" as "PYTHON"  -- it is not the same thing.
>>> Micropython is a very nice way to program an ESP32 microcontroller -- but -- to me -- the name "Python" implies a level of of-the-shelf functionality that Micropython simply does not have.
>>> 
>>> I have to admit when I jumped on the Kickstarter of the Makerphone, I was misled in exactly this way.
>>> 
>>> Why don't you make a phone with a Raspberry Pi Zero ?
>>> THAT would run REAL PYTHON, and THAT I would jump on as a backer.
>>> 
>>> Hope you appreciate the criticism ;)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 11:32 PM Joshua Herman <zitterbewegung at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Could you add support for a cellular modem from that expansion slot?
>>>> 
>>>> You are taking an esp32 and adding a keypad and a screen . I would be expecting a cellular modem to be honest as a part of it. I have seen similar builds with that feature . Why did you decide to only support WiFi ?
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 14, 2019, at 11:14 AM, Ben Wilson <ben at wiphone.io> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hey all... I'm making a VoIP mobile phone that runs Python apps. The firmware will be open. Wanted to share and get the word out.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I wanted a phone that lets hackers do what they want (instead of trapping you in a walled garden, huge IDE, non-serviceable design, etc.). The hardware is also meant to be easily expandable: the back of the phone is a PCB that can be swapped out for custom modules. Sort of like project Ara, except it's just a PCB. any hobby-level electrical designer should be able to make their own custom module.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kickstarter link:
>>>>> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2103809433/wiphone-a-phone-for-hackers-and-makers?ref=1jz5jk
>>>>> 
>>>>> recent Reddit discussion:
>>>>> https://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/bagyxv/wiphone_a_phone_you_can_program_in_python/project
>>>>> 
>>>>> build logs: https://hackaday.io/project/159811-esp32-wiphone
>>>>> 
>>>>> Happy to answer questions here or on Reddit.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Ben
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