<div dir="ltr"><div>Wolfram's SMP was his doctoral research project; he got his PhD at Caltech at age 20...the age that I think I finally graduated from Basic on the Commodore 64 to 'hello world' in the school computer lab.</div><div><br></div><div>In my Lisp class, they said Wolfram's doctoral work made the world's first symbolic equation solver -- tackling the really hard AI problem of the day. FWIW, at the time the Prof. said Optical Character Recognition was the world's really hard AI problem...now solved in open source software. What a distance we've come.</div><div><br></div><div>~Tanya</div><div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 5:00 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chicago-request@python.org" target="_blank">chicago-request@python.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send Chicago mailing list submissions to<br>
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From: "Toby, Brian H." <<a href="mailto:toby@anl.gov" target="_blank">toby@anl.gov</a>><br>
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but Wolfram himself is a pretty despicable guy. He allegedly screwed over a few of his cofounders early on in his company's career and took their credit and intellectual property.<br>
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FWIW, Mathematica was his second effort. My recollection (from many years back and perhaps not 100% accurate) is that he wrote the first program, called SMP (for symbolic math processing, or something like that) for his research. It ran only on a VAX. When he wanted to copyright it and market it, Caltech, where he was a postdoc, claimed ownership under the patent agreement that we students and employees signed (which did not cover copyrights) and sued. Caltech had way more money to spend on lawyers and won and then marketed SMP. FWIW, it was the largest program I had ever seen at that time and was the only program I even encountered that could actually crash a VAX. Steve started again from scratch and created Mathematica. SMP did not ever get ported to any other platform.<br>
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I can?t speak to any of the above, but I believe he was screwed over by Caltech.<br>
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I use Sublime, and I'm pretty happy with it. Vim on occasion.<br>
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On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 1:25 PM, kirby urner <<a href="mailto:kirby.urner@gmail.com" target="_blank">kirby.urner@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 11:05 AM, kirby urner <<a href="mailto:kirby.urner@gmail.com" target="_blank">kirby.urner@gmail.com</a>><br>
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>> I'm just a lurker here, actually Python User Group is more home (where I<br>
>> live) but I was born in Chicago, so hey.<br>
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>> Got to Detroit recently... Toledo...<br>
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>> Anyway, as a Python mentor for O'Reilly, we start them in a browser tool<br>
>> (custom) then graduate 'em to Eclipse + PyDev on a remote desktop in<br>
>> Illinois someplace, a more realistic simulation and time to use a real IDE<br>
>> (could be anything good, but Eclipse is low cost as in free and highly<br>
>> customizable by our staff guy in Carson City).<br>
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> I should add that RDC (remote desktop connection) can bottleneck in some<br>
> routers and some of our would-be Eclipse users report a disappointing lag<br>
> time, which of course I've noticed as a traveler.<br>
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> Here in Portland it's not an issue usually, though some spots in the<br>
> airport have close to no WiFi at all (we're still backwater for an airport,<br>
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> Anyway, for those wanting to keep going anyway, despite RDC issues that<br>
> don't resolve, they may ssh into our server and use vim if they wish.<br>
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> Our Python courses 2-4 use Eclipse clients back ending into the same Linux<br>
> ecosystem the started in Beginner Python 1 with i.e. the sandbox they've<br>
> used in bash is now seen through a V: drive (for "virtual" -- though "V:<br>
> for victory" is good too if one is looking for good omens and<br>
> encouragement).<br>
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> Sometimes I'll ssh in and do a vim thing too, so like many Pythonistas,<br>
> it's a mixed bag with me. Resume-wise, I cut my teeth on xBase in Windows<br>
> after APL on an IBM 370. I'm one of those FoxPro refugees in other words.<br>
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