From aahz@pythoncraft.com Sun Feb 2 18:03:13 2003 From: aahz@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 13:03:13 -0500 Subject: [Conferences-discuss] oscon 2003 call for participation In-Reply-To: <200301250052.h0P0qn522411@pcp02138704pcs.reston01.va.comcast.net> References: <200301250052.h0P0qn522411@pcp02138704pcs.reston01.va.comcast.net> Message-ID: <20030202180313.GA16576@panix.com> I've stuck this on python.org -- Aahz (aahz@pythoncraft.com) <*> http://www.pythoncraft.com/ "Argue for your limitations, and sure enough they're yours." --Richard Bach From altis@semi-retired.com Wed Feb 5 22:12:24 2003 From: altis@semi-retired.com (Kevin Altis) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:12:24 -0800 Subject: [Conferences-discuss] FW: [Oscon] Compensation Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: oscon-admin@labs.oreilly.com [mailto:oscon-admin@labs.oreilly.com]On Behalf Of Nathan Torkington Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 9:15 PM To: oscon@labs.oreilly.com Cc: gina@oreilly.com; vee@oreilly.com Subject: [Oscon] Compensation Hi, folks. Unless otherwise negotiated, here are the compensation arrangements for OSCON: Lightning talks: nothing. 45m session speakers: free registration. 3 hour tutorial presenters: $500 honorarium, $300 same cost/$500 other coast/$800 international air fare, one night hotel, free registration, and $50 per diem for the tutorial day. Committee: free registration. The registrations don't accumulate--if a speaker gives two talks, they can't pass their "second registration" onto a friend. We do have a budget for people who need assistance above and beyond that given here. The problem is that this budget is very tight--the one fund covers speakers, tutors, keynoters, attendees, and us. If someone needs more than the standard amount, please note the request on the proposal (if they're a speaker) or pass it on to me (if it's for you). In general we'll make the decision on who gets what when we make the final selection of papers. (more of which in the next mail) Let me know if you have any questions, Nat _______________________________________________ Oscon mailing list Oscon@labs.oreilly.com http://labs.oreilly.com/mailman/listinfo/oscon From altis@semi-retired.com Wed Feb 5 22:21:00 2003 From: altis@semi-retired.com (Kevin Altis) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:21:00 -0800 Subject: [Conferences-discuss] suggestions for increasing Python 11 submissions? Message-ID: I plan to post another reminder this week to c.l.py... about the upcoming February 15th deadline for OSCON/Python 11 proposals, but I would appreciate suggestions for increasing the number of proposals. Nathan Torkington just posted the following numbers to give an idea what has already been submitted: " This report breaks the incoming proposals down by track, and whether they're a tutorial or talk. I've put some Tomcat proposals into the Apache track--Rich and James should decide whose track (Apache or Java) those go into. Current numbers: Track Tutorial Talk Uncategorized Perl 16 14 0 PHP 4 3 0 Python 1 2 0 Apache 6 15 0 Apps 6 11 0 XML 4 1 0 MySQL 0 0 0 PostgreSQL 2 1 0 Ruby 1 2 0 Emerging Topics 1 9 0 Java 0 0 0 Undefined 0 0 14 TOTAL = 113 41 58 14 " As you can see, Python only has 3 submissions so far. I think the basic problem is that we only recently found out about the deadline and there are already three other Python conferences this year before OSCON/Python 11, so people simply aren't thinking ahead to Python 11. http://www.python.org/workshops/ March 26-28: PyCon DC 2003 (Washington, DC) April 2-3, 2003: Python UK Conference 2003 (Oxford, UK) June 25-27, 2003: EuroPython 2003 Charleroi (Belgium) My inclination is to have people that would like to attend Python 11 in July submit their proposals for these other conferences to Python 11 as well. OTOH, it might be that with EuroPython conference so close to Python 11, few Europeans, if any, will be attending Python 11. Robin Dunn, Patrick K. O'Brien, and I have already had some discussions about trying to do a full day of wxPython-related tutorials; a proposal will be submitted before the deadline. Both Robin and I live in Portland, so this would be very convenient for us if it fits the schedule. It would be nice to see other GUI tutorial session proposals as well to provide some balance. ka --- Kevin Altis altis@semi-retired.com http://radio.weblogs.com/0102677/ http://www.pythoncard.org/ From aahz@pythoncraft.com Thu Feb 6 02:18:53 2003 From: aahz@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 21:18:53 -0500 Subject: [Conferences-discuss] suggestions for increasing Python 11 submissions? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20030206021853.GA20875@panix.com> On Wed, Feb 05, 2003, Kevin Altis wrote: > > Track Tutorial Talk Uncategorized > Python 1 2 0 I'll be submitting two tutorials; I've been busy with PyCon, and I suspect others have as well. Guido at one point mentioned possibly extending the deadline. -- Aahz (aahz@pythoncraft.com) <*> http://www.pythoncraft.com/ "Argue for your limitations, and sure enough they're yours." --Richard Bach From altis@semi-retired.com Thu Feb 6 02:31:08 2003 From: altis@semi-retired.com (Kevin Altis) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 18:31:08 -0800 Subject: [Conferences-discuss] suggestions for increasing Python 11 submissions? In-Reply-To: <20030206021853.GA20875@panix.com> Message-ID: > From: Aahz > > On Wed, Feb 05, 2003, Kevin Altis wrote: > > > > Track Tutorial Talk Uncategorized > > Python 1 2 0 > > I'll be submitting two tutorials; I've been busy with PyCon, and I > suspect others have as well. Guido at one point mentioned possibly > extending the deadline. Was Python for Perl programmers well attended? That seems like a good topic to cover again. ka From guido@python.org Thu Feb 6 02:30:50 2003 From: guido@python.org (Guido van Rossum) Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 21:30:50 -0500 Subject: [Conferences-discuss] suggestions for increasing Python 11 submissions? In-Reply-To: "Your message of Wed, 05 Feb 2003 21:18:53 EST." <20030206021853.GA20875@panix.com> References: <20030206021853.GA20875@panix.com> Message-ID: <200302060230.h162Uov25606@pcp02138704pcs.reston01.va.comcast.net> > Guido at one point mentioned possibly > extending the deadline. I wouldn't count on that now. :-( --Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/) From sholden@holdenweb.com Thu Feb 6 02:30:05 2003 From: sholden@holdenweb.com (Steve Holden) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 21:30:05 -0500 Subject: [Conferences-discuss] suggestions for increasing Python 11 submissions? References: Message-ID: <007901c2cd87$a9ed1080$6300000a@holdenweb.com> Kevin: I plan to submit a tutorial proposal and maybe a talk. I've been a bit busy with PyCon, but I'm hoping things have cooled down enough now for me to get something in by the deadline. regards -- Steve Holden http://www.holdenweb.com/ Python Web Programming http://pydish.holdenweb.com/pwp/ Bring your musical instrument to PyCon! http://www.python.org/pycon/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Altis" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 5:21 PM Subject: [Conferences-discuss] suggestions for increasing Python 11 submissions? > I plan to post another reminder this week to c.l.py... about the upcoming > February 15th deadline for OSCON/Python 11 proposals, but I would appreciate > suggestions for increasing the number of proposals. > > Nathan Torkington just posted the following numbers to give an idea what has > already been submitted: > > " > This report breaks the incoming proposals down by track, and whether > they're a tutorial or talk. I've put some Tomcat proposals into the > Apache track--Rich and James should decide whose track (Apache or > Java) those go into. > > Current numbers: > > Track Tutorial Talk Uncategorized > Perl 16 14 0 > PHP 4 3 0 > Python 1 2 0 > Apache 6 15 0 > Apps 6 11 0 > XML 4 1 0 > MySQL 0 0 0 > PostgreSQL 2 1 0 > Ruby 1 2 0 > Emerging Topics 1 9 0 > Java 0 0 0 > Undefined 0 0 14 > > TOTAL = 113 41 58 14 > " > > > As you can see, Python only has 3 submissions so far. I think the basic > problem is that we only recently found out about the deadline and there are > already three other Python conferences this year before OSCON/Python 11, so > people simply aren't thinking ahead to Python 11. > > http://www.python.org/workshops/ > > March 26-28: PyCon DC 2003 (Washington, DC) > April 2-3, 2003: Python UK Conference 2003 (Oxford, UK) > June 25-27, 2003: EuroPython 2003 Charleroi (Belgium) > > My inclination is to have people that would like to attend Python 11 in July > submit their proposals for these other conferences to Python 11 as well. > OTOH, it might be that with EuroPython conference so close to Python 11, few > Europeans, if any, will be attending Python 11. > > Robin Dunn, Patrick K. O'Brien, and I have already had some discussions > about trying to do a full day of wxPython-related tutorials; a proposal will > be submitted before the deadline. Both Robin and I live in Portland, so this > would be very convenient for us if it fits the schedule. It would be nice to > see other GUI tutorial session proposals as well to provide some balance. > > ka > --- > Kevin Altis > altis@semi-retired.com > http://radio.weblogs.com/0102677/ > http://www.pythoncard.org/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Conferences-discuss mailing list > Conferences-discuss@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/conferences-discuss > From aahz@pythoncraft.com Thu Feb 6 02:39:30 2003 From: aahz@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 21:39:30 -0500 Subject: [Conferences-discuss] suggestions for increasing Python 11 submissions? In-Reply-To: References: <20030206021853.GA20875@panix.com> Message-ID: <20030206023930.GA27354@panix.com> On Wed, Feb 05, 2003, Kevin Altis wrote: >> From: Aahz >> On Wed, Feb 05, 2003, Kevin Altis wrote: >>> >>> Track Tutorial Talk Uncategorized >>> Python 1 2 0 >> >> I'll be submitting two tutorials; I've been busy with PyCon, and I >> suspect others have as well. Guido at one point mentioned possibly >> extending the deadline. > > Was Python for Perl programmers well attended? That seems like a good topic > to cover again. Yes and yes, but I'll probably change the title to plain Python for Programmers; only about half the class was primarily Perl programmers last time. -- Aahz (aahz@pythoncraft.com) <*> http://www.pythoncraft.com/ "Argue for your limitations, and sure enough they're yours." --Richard Bach From wesc@fuzzyorange.com Tue Feb 11 08:35:47 2003 From: wesc@fuzzyorange.com (Wesley Chun) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 00:35:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Conferences-discuss] Re: oscon 2003 call for participation In-Reply-To: <20030206170010.16528.61469.Mailman@mail.python.org> Message-ID: > Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:21:00 -0800 > From: "Kevin Altis" > > I plan to post another reminder this week to c.l.py... about the upcoming > February 15th deadline for OSCON/Python 11 proposals, but I would appreci= ate > suggestions for increasing the number of proposals. > > Python 1 2 0 the deadlines fall just a few weeks after the PyCon one, so it's hard to keep up. i intend on filing for a paper expanding on one of my PyCon talks and perhaps a pair of tutorials but am not sure i can give the best proposals by this weekend's deadline. still i'll give it a shot. -wesley - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - "Core Python Programming", Prentice Hall PTR, =A9 2001 http://starship.python.net/crew/wesc/cpp/ Silicon Valley-San Francisco Bay Area Python Users Group (BayPIGgies) http://www.baypiggies.net wesley.j.chun :: wesc at deirdre.org cyberweb.consulting : henderson, nv : cyberweb at rocketmail.com http://www.roadkill.com/~wesc/cyberweb/