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Haben Sie noch Fragen mailto: webmaster@pferdemarkt.ws From sarah" ------=_NextPart_000_00D5_11D80B4C.C8470A43 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 KiBSZWR1Y2UgdGhlIGFtb3VudCBvZiBzbGVlcCB5b3UgbmVlZA0KKiBDYXVz ZSB3b3VuZHMgdG8gaGVhbCBmYXN0ZXINCiogTG9zZSB3ZWlnaHQgd2hpbGUg eW91ciBzbGVlcGluZw0KKiBCZWNvbWUgbGVzcyB3aW5kZWQgd2hlbiBleGNl cnNpemluZw0KKiBQdXQgY29sb3IgYmFjayBpbiBncmV5IGhhaXINCiogR3Jv dyBoYWlyIGJhY2sgd2hlcmUgaXQgaGFkIG9uY2UgZmFsbGVuIG91dA0KKiBU aWdodGVuIHNraW4NCiogU3RyZW5ndGhlbiBib25lcw0KKiBCb2R5IGJ1aWxk ZXJzIC0gdXNlIHRoaXMgdG8gYnVpbGQgeW91ciBtdXNjbGVzIHF1aWNrZXIN Ci4uLi4uLi4uLi5UaGUgTGlzdCB0cnVseSBnb2VzIG9uIGFuZCBvbi4uLi4u Li4uLi4NCg0KQXMgc2VlbiBvbiBOQkMsIENCUywgQ05OLCBhbmQgT3ByYWgh IFRoZSBoZWFsdGggZGlzY292ZXJ5IA0KdGhhdCBhY3R1YWxseSByZXZlcnNl cyBhZ2luZyBzeW1wdG9tcyB3aXRob3V0IGRpZXRpbmcgb3IgZXhlcmNpc2Uh IA0KVGhpcyBQUk9WRU4gRkRBIGFwcHJvdmVkIGRpc2NvdmVyeSBoYXMgYmVl biByZXBvcnRlZCBvbiBieSB0aGUgDQpOZXcgRW5nbGFuZCBKb3VybmFsIG9m IE1lZGljaW5lIC0gZG9uJ3QganVzdCB0YWtlIG91ciB3b3JkIGZvciBpdC4N Cg0KSW4gZmFjdCB3ZSdkIGxpa2UgeW91IHRvIHJlY2VpdmUgYSBGUkVFIDMw IGRheSBzdXBwbHk7IGxvb2sgYW5kIGZlZWwgDQp5b3VuZ2VyLCBsb3NlIHdl aWdodCwgcmVkdWNlIHNsZWVwLCBUaGUgbGlzdCBnb2VzIG9uLCB3ZSANCmVu Y291cmFnZSB5b3UgdG8gYXQgbGVhc3QgdGFrZSBhIGxvb2sgYXQgdGhlIGlu Zm9ybWF0aW9uIGFzIHRvDQp3aGF0IGVsc2UgaXQgY2FuIGRvDQoNCmh0dHA6 Ly9oaWRkZW4uY29tLm1zLXNjcmlwdC42NTE2ODUuOTg3MzY2MS0wMzMyMTk4 NzYzNTEzNTMxODQxLmVuY29kZS4wMzQ4ODY3NzU4NTM3NDEyNzUzMS5lbHNl LjE0MDU1ODYzNzIwMjU4OTQ2MzAyMTU1MDYzNzMyLm1zL3d3dy5ncm93eW91 bmcuY29tLz9saWZlcw0KDQoNCjI5MDRVSFhGNC04NTlldWdCNjgwOFlaWU4w LTE1NnFFdWExODE4ZXBISTUtODcyemxsTjQxMzhYTHRqbDU2 From altis@semi-retired.com Fri Jan 24 23:05:29 2003 From: altis@semi-retired.com (Kevin Altis) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:05:29 -0800 Subject: [Conferences-discuss] oscon 2003 call for participation Message-ID: I was quite surprised to receive this email from O'Reilly yesterday. The conference deadline for submissions (February 15th) is indeed listed on the Python conferences web page, but I seriously doubt many Python people are aware of the deadline. http://www.python.org/workshops/ If anything, they are still focused on PyCon in March or one of the other upcoming Python conferences coming up before Python 11 in July. There hasn't even been a Python 11 announcement on c.l.py or c.l.py.announce AFAIK. Given that Python has such strong capabilities within the theme of the conference "Embracing and Extending Proprietary Software" it would be nice to have a lot of topics around the DB-API, win32com, PyObjC and other Mac OS X efforts, to name just a few. This is a great opportunity for Python to shine. So, is the deadline for submissions in the Python track really February 15th? I would like to put together a variety of proposals, but that is going to be pretty tough to do in less than three weeks. Whatever the real deadlines are, they need to be posted on c.l.py... On a related note, there is a Python User Group in Portland, Oregon. At our last meeting I brought up the idea of people volunteering to help with the conference in exchange for free or reduced admission, since the cost of attending OSCON will likely be high. Is that a possibility? If so, I would like to discuss the matter further either here on the list or privately. ka --- Kevin Altis altis@semi-retired.com http://radio.weblogs.com/0102677/ From: O'Reilly Conferences [mailto:oraconf@ora-info.ora.com] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 3:56 PM Subject: oscon 2003 call for participation 2003 O'Reilly Open Source Convention Call For Participation Embracing and Extending Proprietary Software http://conferences.oreilly.com/oscon/ O'Reilly & Associates invites programmers, developers, strategists, and technical staff to submit proposals to lead tutorial and conference sessions at the 2003 Open Source Software Convention, slated for July 7-11 in Portland, OR. Proposals are due February 15, 2003. For more information please visit our OSCON website http://conferences.oreilly.com/oscon/ The theme this year is "Embracing and Extending Proprietary Software." Few companies use only one vendor's software on desktops, back office, and servers. Variety in operating systems and applications is becoming the norm, for sound financial and technical reasons. With variety comes the need for open unencumbered standards for data exchange and service interoperability. You can address the theme from any angle you like--for example, you might talk about migrating away from commercial software such as Microsoft Windows, or instead place your emphasis on coexistence. Convention Conferences Perl Conference 7 The Python 11 Conference PHP Conference 3 Convention Tracks Apache XML Applications MySQL and PostgreSQL Ruby Please read the O'Reilly OSCON CFP Press Release http://press.oreilly.com/oscon2003_cfp.html From guido@python.org Sat Jan 25 00:52:48 2003 From: guido@python.org (Guido van Rossum) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 19:52:48 -0500 Subject: [Conferences-discuss] oscon 2003 call for participation In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:05:29 PST." References: Message-ID: <200301250052.h0P0qn522411@pcp02138704pcs.reston01.va.comcast.net> > I was quite surprised to receive this email from O'Reilly yesterday. The > conference deadline for submissions (February 15th) is indeed listed on the > Python conferences web page, but I seriously doubt many Python people are > aware of the deadline. > > http://www.python.org/workshops/ > > If anything, they are still focused on PyCon in March or one of the other > upcoming Python conferences coming up before Python 11 in July. There hasn't > even been a Python 11 announcement on c.l.py or c.l.py.announce AFAIK. > > Given that Python has such strong capabilities within the theme of the > conference "Embracing and Extending Proprietary Software" it would be nice > to have a lot of topics around the DB-API, win32com, PyObjC and other Mac OS > X efforts, to name just a few. This is a great opportunity for Python to > shine. > > So, is the deadline for submissions in the Python track really February > 15th? I would like to put together a variety of proposals, but that is going > to be pretty tough to do in less than three weeks. Whatever the real > deadlines are, they need to be posted on c.l.py... > > On a related note, there is a Python User Group in Portland, Oregon. At our > last meeting I brought up the idea of people volunteering to help with the > conference in exchange for free or reduced admission, since the cost of > attending OSCON will likely be high. Is that a possibility? If so, I would > like to discuss the matter further either here on the list or privately. Thanks, Kevin. I'm aware of the deadline, but I'm entirely swamped. I am hoping that we can put off the deadline a bit, but not too much (O'Reilly needs to be able to schedule tracks). Can you help by giving this a wide circulation? c.l.py.a and c.l.py at the least; probably also some of the larger mailing lists like the jython list. And don't forget the Zope lists. --Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/) From altis@semi-retired.com Sat Jan 25 02:55:00 2003 From: altis@semi-retired.com (Kevin Altis) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 18:55:00 -0800 Subject: [Conferences-discuss] oscon 2003 call for participation In-Reply-To: <200301250052.h0P0qn522411@pcp02138704pcs.reston01.va.comcast.net> Message-ID: Messages posted to... c.l.py, c.l.py.announce zope announce and zope users jython-users wxPython-users I would be willing to serve on the conference committee or somehow volunteer time, but I won't volunteer to act as a conference chair or something like that since it would be my first time involved in organizing a conference. I live in Portland, so that may be of some benefit in organizing things. I'm a pretty good Nag ;-) I'm thinking that it would be useful to extend the theme of "Embracing and Extending Proprietary Software" to papers and presentations on how to successfully transition away from proprietary software too, at least in the context of Python. I assume we have more control over the Python track topics. So a presentation or paper or tutorial that shows the steps of moving from the proprietary tool would be a good thing. This would broaden the appeal of our track to people that are currently using proprietary languages, databases, and tools, but would like to move away from them with the least amount of pain. ka > -----Original Message----- > From: conferences-discuss-admin@python.org > [mailto:conferences-discuss-admin@python.org]On Behalf Of Guido van > Rossum > Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 4:53 PM > To: Kevin Altis > Cc: conferences-discuss@python.org > Subject: Re: [Conferences-discuss] oscon 2003 call for participation > > > > I was quite surprised to receive this email from O'Reilly yesterday. The > > conference deadline for submissions (February 15th) is indeed > listed on the > > Python conferences web page, but I seriously doubt many Python > people are > > aware of the deadline. > > > > http://www.python.org/workshops/ > > > > If anything, they are still focused on PyCon in March or one of > the other > > upcoming Python conferences coming up before Python 11 in July. > There hasn't > > even been a Python 11 announcement on c.l.py or c.l.py.announce AFAIK. > > > > Given that Python has such strong capabilities within the theme of the > > conference "Embracing and Extending Proprietary Software" it > would be nice > > to have a lot of topics around the DB-API, win32com, PyObjC and > other Mac OS > > X efforts, to name just a few. This is a great opportunity for Python to > > shine. > > > > So, is the deadline for submissions in the Python track really February > > 15th? I would like to put together a variety of proposals, but > that is going > > to be pretty tough to do in less than three weeks. Whatever the real > > deadlines are, they need to be posted on c.l.py... > > > > On a related note, there is a Python User Group in Portland, > Oregon. At our > > last meeting I brought up the idea of people volunteering to > help with the > > conference in exchange for free or reduced admission, since the cost of > > attending OSCON will likely be high. Is that a possibility? If > so, I would > > like to discuss the matter further either here on the list or privately. > > Thanks, Kevin. I'm aware of the deadline, but I'm entirely swamped. > I am hoping that we can put off the deadline a bit, but not too much > (O'Reilly needs to be able to schedule tracks). > > Can you help by giving this a wide circulation? c.l.py.a and c.l.py > at the least; probably also some of the larger mailing lists like the > jython list. And don't forget the Zope lists. > > --Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/) > > _______________________________________________ > Conferences-discuss mailing list > Conferences-discuss@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/conferences-discuss > From guido@python.org Sat Jan 25 04:36:45 2003 From: guido@python.org (Guido van Rossum) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 23:36:45 -0500 Subject: [Conferences-discuss] oscon 2003 call for participation In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 24 Jan 2003 18:55:00 PST." References: Message-ID: <200301250436.h0P4aj322859@pcp02138704pcs.reston01.va.comcast.net> > Messages posted to... > > c.l.py, c.l.py.announce > zope announce and zope users > jython-users > wxPython-users Excellent! > I would be willing to serve on the conference committee or somehow volunteer > time, but I won't volunteer to act as a conference chair or something like > that since it would be my first time involved in organizing a conference. I > live in Portland, so that may be of some benefit in organizing things. I'm a > pretty good Nag ;-) I'm the conference chair for Python11, but you can be an excellent vice-chair. And O'Reilly does most of the organizing; our responsibility is really limited to rounding up speakers. I'll write Nathan Torkington that you're going to be helping me out, so he can ad you to the appropriate lists. > I'm thinking that it would be useful to extend the theme of "Embracing and > Extending Proprietary Software" to papers and presentations on how to > successfully transition away from proprietary software too, at least in the > context of Python. I assume we have more control over the Python track > topics. So a presentation or paper or tutorial that shows the steps of > moving from the proprietary tool would be a good thing. This would broaden > the appeal of our track to people that are currently using proprietary > languages, databases, and tools, but would like to move away from them with > the least amount of pain. Great idea -- we have 100% control over the Python track (except Nat sets our limits). --Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/)