From cgoldberg at gmail.com  Sat Oct  9 23:30:11 2010
From: cgoldberg at gmail.com (Corey Goldberg)
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 17:30:11 -0400
Subject: [Conferences] main pycon page not rendering
Message-ID: <AANLkTins8YSq_bFhdw3sNG5_SWVNJK2AF_4G78eSjnuR@mail.gmail.com>

i noticed the main pycon page is missing its stylesheet and logos..
http://www.pycon.org/

just making sure has been reported so someone can fix.

regards,

-Corey

From mmueller at python-academy.de  Wed Oct 13 20:51:22 2010
From: mmueller at python-academy.de (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Mike_M=FCller?=)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:51:22 +0200
Subject: [Conferences] Python conferences 2011, dates
Message-ID: <4CB5FFAA.3030901@python-academy.de>

Hi,

I am looking for the scheduled or likely dates of all
2011 Python conferences or similar events.

That is my current table:

                    2010             2011
PyCon US           Feb. 17 - 25     March 09 - 17
EuroPython         July 19 - 22     ???
PyCon Asia-Pacific June 09 - 11     June  09 - 11
PyCon Argentina    Oct. 15 - 16     ???
PyCon Australia    June 26 - 27     ???
PyCon Brazil       Oct. 21 - 23     ???
PyCon France       Aug. 28 - 29     ???
PyCon India        Sep. 25 - 26     ???
PyCon Ireland      July 17 - 18     ???
PyCon Italy        May  07 - 09     ???
PyCon NZ           Nov. 20 - 21     ???
PyCon PL           Oct. 08 - 10     ???
PyCon UK           Oct. 16          ???
SciPy US      June/July 28 - 03     ???
EuroSciPy          July 08 - 10     ???
SciPyIndia         Dec. 13 - 18     ???
PyOhio        July/Aug. 31 - 01     ???
PyTexas            Aug. 28          ???
OSCON              July 19 - 23     ???
more Python conferencing events?


It would be nice to have as many questions marks as
possible replaced by dates.
Also, this would make a nice wiki page for long-term
coordination of Python events.

Thanks.

Mike




From president at nzpug.org  Wed Oct 13 23:03:38 2010
From: president at nzpug.org (Danny Adair)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 10:03:38 +1300
Subject: [Conferences] Python conferences 2011, dates
In-Reply-To: <4CB5FFAA.3030901@python-academy.de>
References: <4CB5FFAA.3030901@python-academy.de>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinsV5BHaQfzRV4cW4f28MXJ0pyRs+XGbUMzJrpG@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 07:51, Mike M?ller <mmueller at python-academy.de> wrote:
>[...]
> I am looking for the scheduled or likely dates of all
> 2011 Python conferences or similar events.
>[...]
> more Python conferencing events?

Yes, New Zealand's
Kiwi PyCon http://nz.pycon.org/
20/21 Nov 2010, 2011 tbc

Cheers,

Danny W. Adair
President
New Zealand Python User Group Incorporated

From gotsyk at gmail.com  Wed Oct 13 23:10:36 2010
From: gotsyk at gmail.com (Volodymyr Hotsyk)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 00:10:36 +0300
Subject: [Conferences] Python conferences 2011, dates
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinsV5BHaQfzRV4cW4f28MXJ0pyRs+XGbUMzJrpG@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4CB5FFAA.3030901@python-academy.de>
	<AANLkTinsV5BHaQfzRV4cW4f28MXJ0pyRs+XGbUMzJrpG@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinp-4mi6QyO-yrFShg6Yi=O7E=kdxmtrfMp+XbM@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, PyCon Ukraine,
http://ua.pycon.org
23-24 October, 2010

Regards,
Volodymyr Hotsyk

On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 00:03, Danny Adair <president at nzpug.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 07:51, Mike M?ller <mmueller at python-academy.de> wrote:
>>[...]
>> I am looking for the scheduled or likely dates of all
>> 2011 Python conferences or similar events.
>>[...]
>> more Python conferencing events?
>
> Yes, New Zealand's
> Kiwi PyCon http://nz.pycon.org/
> 20/21 Nov 2010, 2011 tbc
>
> Cheers,
>
> Danny W. Adair
> President
> New Zealand Python User Group Incorporated
> _______________________________________________
> Conferences mailing list: Conferences at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/conferences
>
> This is an open list with open archives; sensitive or confidential information should not be discussed here.
>

From jeff at taupro.com  Wed Oct 13 23:29:34 2010
From: jeff at taupro.com (Jeff Rush)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:29:34 -0500
Subject: [Conferences] Python conferences 2011, dates
In-Reply-To: <4CB5FFAA.3030901@python-academy.de>
References: <4CB5FFAA.3030901@python-academy.de>
Message-ID: <4CB624BE.2060506@taupro.com>

On 10/13/2010 01:51 PM, Mike M?ller wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am looking for the scheduled or likely dates of all
> 2011 Python conferences or similar events.
> 
> That is my current table:
> 
>                    2010             2011
> PyOhio        July/Aug. 31 - 01     ???
> PyTexas            Aug. 28          ???
> more Python conferencing events?

Yep, PyArkansas
  www.pyarkansas.org
     Oct 16, 2010  (3rd annual)

-Jeff

From catherine.devlin at gmail.com  Wed Oct 13 23:44:22 2010
From: catherine.devlin at gmail.com (Catherine Devlin)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:44:22 -0400
Subject: [Conferences] Python conferences 2011, dates
In-Reply-To: <4CB5FFAA.3030901@python-academy.de>
References: <4CB5FFAA.3030901@python-academy.de>
Message-ID: <AANLkTiknt3j9pNBHP+amsLQk5eD5tkQKV7sjXrw0SFVb@mail.gmail.com>

Rather than try to keep a fairly obscure wiki page up-to-date, I suggest
that we point it to some high-profile online searchable calendar, then work
to keep *that* up-to-date.  I'm not sure which one to recommend, though.

lanyrd.com seems intriguing:
http://lanyrd.com/search/?q=python&type=conference

Anyway, PyOhio 2011 is July 30 - 31.

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Mike M?ller <mmueller at python-academy.de>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am looking for the scheduled or likely dates of all
> 2011 Python conferences or similar events.
>
> --
- Catherine
http://catherinedevlin.blogspot.com
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From mmueller at python-academy.de  Thu Oct 14 00:13:47 2010
From: mmueller at python-academy.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mike_M=FCller?=)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 00:13:47 +0200
Subject: [Conferences] Python conferences 2011, dates
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTiknt3j9pNBHP+amsLQk5eD5tkQKV7sjXrw0SFVb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4CB5FFAA.3030901@python-academy.de>
	<AANLkTiknt3j9pNBHP+amsLQk5eD5tkQKV7sjXrw0SFVb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4CB62F1B.7090606@python-academy.de>

Catherine Devlin schrieb:
> 
> Rather than try to keep a fairly obscure wiki page up-to-date, I suggest 
> that we point it to some high-profile online searchable calendar, then 
> work to keep *that* up-to-date.  I'm not sure which one to recommend, 
> though.
> 
> lanyrd.com <http://lanyrd.com> seems intriguing: 
> http://lanyrd.com/search/?q=python&type=conference 
> <http://lanyrd.com/search/?q=python&type=conference>

+1

This is good for finalized dates.

Any ideas for a way to coordinate dates before they get fixed
and officially announced?


> Anyway, PyOhio 2011 is July 30 - 31.

Thanks.

Mike

From r1chardj0n3s at gmail.com  Thu Oct 14 00:51:51 2010
From: r1chardj0n3s at gmail.com (Richard Jones)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 09:51:51 +1100
Subject: [Conferences] Python conferences 2011, dates
In-Reply-To: <4CB62F1B.7090606@python-academy.de>
References: <4CB5FFAA.3030901@python-academy.de>
	<AANLkTiknt3j9pNBHP+amsLQk5eD5tkQKV7sjXrw0SFVb@mail.gmail.com>
	<4CB62F1B.7090606@python-academy.de>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikC8on7_ZWyAkK1uSOgAbHPKh-cZ=_X7C4X+L=e@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Mike M?ller <mmueller at python-academy.de> wrote:
> Catherine Devlin schrieb:
>>
>> Rather than try to keep a fairly obscure wiki page up-to-date, I suggest
>> that we point it to some high-profile online searchable calendar, then work
>> to keep *that* up-to-date. ?I'm not sure which one to recommend, though.
>>
>> lanyrd.com <http://lanyrd.com> seems intriguing:
>> http://lanyrd.com/search/?q=python&type=conference
>> <http://lanyrd.com/search/?q=python&type=conference>
>
> +1
>
> This is good for finalized dates.
>
> Any ideas for a way to coordinate dates before they get fixed
> and officially announced?

A shared google calendar? We put together one with dates relevant to
our conference for planning.

PyCon AU will be in late August next year to avoid conflicting with
APAC again. No fixed date yet.


    Richard

From noufal at gmail.com  Thu Oct 14 10:52:04 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 14:22:04 +0530
Subject: [Conferences] Python conferences 2011, dates
In-Reply-To: <4CB5FFAA.3030901@python-academy.de> ("Mike =?iso-8859-1?Q?M?=
	=?iso-8859-1?Q?=FCller=22's?= message of
	"Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:51:22 +0200")
References: <4CB5FFAA.3030901@python-academy.de>
Message-ID: <8739s9dumj.fsf@gmail.com>

On Thu, Oct 14 2010, Mike M?ller wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am looking for the scheduled or likely dates of all
> 2011 Python conferences or similar events.
>
> That is my current table:
>
>                    2010             2011
> PyCon US           Feb. 17 - 25     March 09 - 17
> EuroPython         July 19 - 22     ???
> PyCon Asia-Pacific June 09 - 11     June  09 - 11
> PyCon Argentina    Oct. 15 - 16     ???
> PyCon Australia    June 26 - 27     ???
> PyCon Brazil       Oct. 21 - 23     ???
> PyCon France       Aug. 28 - 29     ???
> PyCon India        Sep. 25 - 26     ???
> PyCon Ireland      July 17 - 18     ???
> PyCon Italy        May  07 - 09     ???
> PyCon NZ           Nov. 20 - 21     ???
> PyCon PL           Oct. 08 - 10     ???
> PyCon UK           Oct. 16          ???
> SciPy US      June/July 28 - 03     ???
> EuroSciPy          July 08 - 10     ???
> SciPyIndia         Dec. 13 - 18     ???
> PyOhio        July/Aug. 31 - 01     ???
> PyTexas            Aug. 28          ???
> OSCON              July 19 - 23     ???
> more Python conferencing events?

[...]

We're just recovering from PyCon India. I expect the next one (i.e. 2011) to be
around the same time though - late September or so. Nothing confirmed yet.

-- 

From vid at svaksha.com  Thu Oct 14 12:58:13 2010
From: vid at svaksha.com (=?UTF-8?B?4KWlIOCkuOCljeCkteCkleCljeCktyDgpaUg?=)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 16:43:13 +0545
Subject: [Conferences] Python conferences 2011, dates
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTiknt3j9pNBHP+amsLQk5eD5tkQKV7sjXrw0SFVb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4CB5FFAA.3030901@python-academy.de>
	<AANLkTiknt3j9pNBHP+amsLQk5eD5tkQKV7sjXrw0SFVb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik-T71SuskJtPyaS4-sfhpUTF1-O-jM15-91BNy@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 03:29, Catherine Devlin
<catherine.devlin at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> lanyrd.com seems intriguing:
> http://lanyrd.com/search/?q=python&type=conference

I have submitted some conference dates to the LWN calendar[0].

[0] http://lwn.net/Calendar/


-- 
Regards,
vid ? http://svaksha.com

From bradallen137 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 15 00:07:54 2010
From: bradallen137 at gmail.com (Brad Allen)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 17:07:54 -0500
Subject: [Conferences] Python conferences 2011, dates
In-Reply-To: <4CB5FFAA.3030901@python-academy.de>
References: <4CB5FFAA.3030901@python-academy.de>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinnSTVUuQNKzScY=-0v5XsLqZaB6EWa5nGR63+0@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Mike M?ller <mmueller at python-academy.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am looking for the scheduled or likely dates of all
> 2011 Python conferences or similar events.
>
> That is my current table:
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 2010 ? ? ? ? ? ? 2011
> PyCon US ? ? ? ? ? Feb. 17 - 25 ? ? March 09 - 17
> EuroPython ? ? ? ? July 19 - 22 ? ? ???
> PyCon Asia-Pacific June 09 - 11 ? ? June ?09 - 11
> PyCon Argentina ? ?Oct. 15 - 16 ? ? ???
> PyCon Australia ? ?June 26 - 27 ? ? ???
> PyCon Brazil ? ? ? Oct. 21 - 23 ? ? ???
> PyCon France ? ? ? Aug. 28 - 29 ? ? ???
> PyCon India ? ? ? ?Sep. 25 - 26 ? ? ???
> PyCon Ireland ? ? ?July 17 - 18 ? ? ???
> PyCon Italy ? ? ? ?May ?07 - 09 ? ? ???
> PyCon NZ ? ? ? ? ? Nov. 20 - 21 ? ? ???
> PyCon PL ? ? ? ? ? Oct. 08 - 10 ? ? ???
> PyCon UK ? ? ? ? ? Oct. 16 ? ? ? ? ????
> SciPy US ? ? ?June/July 28 - 03 ? ? ???
> EuroSciPy ? ? ? ? ?July 08 - 10 ? ? ???
> SciPyIndia ? ? ? ? Dec. 13 - 18 ? ? ???
> PyOhio ? ? ? ?July/Aug. 31 - 01 ? ? ???
> PyTexas ? ? ? ? ? ?Aug. 28 ? ? ? ? ????

We don't have a confirmed date yet for PyTexas 2011, but when we do,
I'll post it here.

From funthyme at gmail.com  Fri Oct 15 10:07:57 2010
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 09:07:57 +0100
Subject: [Conferences] Python conferences 2011, dates
In-Reply-To: <4CB5FFAA.3030901@python-academy.de>
References: <4CB5FFAA.3030901@python-academy.de>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=OAMJv9HmNBVaejw3OgZ0+HdGD7SO1urVkwoWp@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

We do not have firm dates yet, but it is likely that:

EuroPython 2011 will be in May
PyCon UK will be in September (and be an unconference)

and we will post here when we have the dates set.

Best wishes,

John
--

From rasky at develer.com  Fri Oct 22 16:32:24 2010
From: rasky at develer.com (Giovanni Bajo)
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 16:32:24 +0200
Subject: [Conferences] Python conferences 2011, dates
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=OAMJv9HmNBVaejw3OgZ0+HdGD7SO1urVkwoWp@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4CB5FFAA.3030901@python-academy.de>
	<AANLkTi=OAMJv9HmNBVaejw3OgZ0+HdGD7SO1urVkwoWp@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4CC1A078.6080602@develer.com>

On 10/15/2010 10:07 AM, John Pinner wrote:
> Hello,
>
> We do not have firm dates yet, but it is likely that:
>
> EuroPython 2011 will be in May

Hi John,

we are still finalizing the exact dates, but it looks like it will be on 
June 22-26, or something like that. We would have liked to hold it 
earlier in June, but the DjangoCon is going to be in the same period as 
well.

PyCon Italy will not be held this year, nor the next one.
-- 
Giovanni Bajo   ::  rasky at develer.com
Develer S.r.l.  ::  http://www.develer.com

From whykay at gmail.com  Fri Oct 22 16:51:52 2010
From: whykay at gmail.com (Vicky Twomey-Lee)
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 15:51:52 +0100
Subject: [Conferences] Python conferences 2011, dates
In-Reply-To: <4CC1A078.6080602@develer.com>
References: <4CB5FFAA.3030901@python-academy.de>
	<AANLkTi=OAMJv9HmNBVaejw3OgZ0+HdGD7SO1urVkwoWp@mail.gmail.com>
	<4CC1A078.6080602@develer.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimOpj01NzBVbtn0jAkG5LOGF13ujSyckiPyoDyu@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

We are finalising dates for PyCon Ireland 2011 also.

It's either on the weekend of Oct 1st-2nd or Oct 8th-9th

Cheers,

/// Vicky

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~ http://irishbornchinese.com ~~
~~       http://www.python.ie     ~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Giovanni Bajo <rasky at develer.com> wrote:

> On 10/15/2010 10:07 AM, John Pinner wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> We do not have firm dates yet, but it is likely that:
>>
>> EuroPython 2011 will be in May
>>
>
> Hi John,
>
> we are still finalizing the exact dates, but it looks like it will be on
> June 22-26, or something like that. We would have liked to hold it earlier
> in June, but the DjangoCon is going to be in the same period as well.
>
> PyCon Italy will not be held this year, nor the next one.
> --
> Giovanni Bajo   ::  rasky at develer.com
> Develer S.r.l.  ::  http://www.develer.com
>
> _______________________________________________
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From mmueller at python-academy.de  Sat Oct 23 14:36:35 2010
From: mmueller at python-academy.de (=?UTF-8?B?TWlrZSBNw7xsbGVy?=)
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 14:36:35 +0200
Subject: [Conferences] Python conferences 2011, dates
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimOpj01NzBVbtn0jAkG5LOGF13ujSyckiPyoDyu@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4CB5FFAA.3030901@python-academy.de>	<AANLkTi=OAMJv9HmNBVaejw3OgZ0+HdGD7SO1urVkwoWp@mail.gmail.com>	<4CC1A078.6080602@develer.com>
	<AANLkTimOpj01NzBVbtn0jAkG5LOGF13ujSyckiPyoDyu@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4CC2D6D3.10402@python-academy.de>

Hi,

Thank you all for your feedback regarding dates of Python
conferences.

I tried to assemble all information in one place.
You can see the result here:

http://www.python-academy.com/events/python_events.html

Even though it is on my web site it is not really publicly
available. It cannot be reached via the navigation of the site.
The only link out so far is the one in this mail.

We can also move this to another place because I am the only one
this list who can make changes to the page content.

Otherwise just e-mail me updates or corrections. I certainly
missed something and made some mistakes somewhere.

Please let me know what you think.

Cheers,
Mike


From aahz at pythoncraft.com  Sat Oct 23 18:35:36 2010
From: aahz at pythoncraft.com (Aahz)
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 09:35:36 -0700
Subject: [Conferences] Python conferences 2011, dates
In-Reply-To: <4CC2D6D3.10402@python-academy.de>
References: <4CB5FFAA.3030901@python-academy.de>
	<AANLkTi=OAMJv9HmNBVaejw3OgZ0+HdGD7SO1urVkwoWp@mail.gmail.com>
	<4CC1A078.6080602@develer.com>
	<AANLkTimOpj01NzBVbtn0jAkG5LOGF13ujSyckiPyoDyu@mail.gmail.com>
	<4CC2D6D3.10402@python-academy.de>
Message-ID: <20101023163536.GA13926@panix.com>

On Sat, Oct 23, 2010, Mike M?ller wrote:
>
> Thank you all for your feedback regarding dates of Python
> conferences.
>
> I tried to assemble all information in one place.
> You can see the result here:
>
> http://www.python-academy.com/events/python_events.html

Thanks for your work!  Please add OSCON 2011 July 25-29 in Portland,
Oregon.

http://conferences.oreillynet.com/

(Note that this is the source of the date, *not* a link to OSCON.)
-- 
Aahz (aahz at pythoncraft.com)           <*>         http://www.pythoncraft.com/

"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait
until you hire an amateur."  --Red Adair

From mmueller at python-academy.de  Sat Oct 23 19:23:05 2010
From: mmueller at python-academy.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mike_M=FCller?=)
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 19:23:05 +0200
Subject: [Conferences] Python conferences 2011, dates
In-Reply-To: <20101023163536.GA13926@panix.com>
References: <4CB5FFAA.3030901@python-academy.de>
	<AANLkTi=OAMJv9HmNBVaejw3OgZ0+HdGD7SO1urVkwoWp@mail.gmail.com>
	<4CC1A078.6080602@develer.com>
	<AANLkTimOpj01NzBVbtn0jAkG5LOGF13ujSyckiPyoDyu@mail.gmail.com>
	<4CC2D6D3.10402@python-academy.de>
	<20101023163536.GA13926@panix.com>
Message-ID: <4CC319F9.7050004@python-academy.de>

Am 23.10.2010 18:35, schrieb Aahz:
> On Sat, Oct 23, 2010, Mike M?ller wrote:
>>
>> Thank you all for your feedback regarding dates of Python
>> conferences.
>>
>> I tried to assemble all information in one place.
>> You can see the result here:
>>
>> http://www.python-academy.com/events/python_events.html
>
> Thanks for your work!  Please add OSCON 2011 July 25-29 in Portland,
> Oregon.

Thanks.

Updated the page.

Mike

From mmueller at python-academy.de  Fri Oct 29 14:13:11 2010
From: mmueller at python-academy.de (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Mike_M=FCller?=)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 14:13:11 +0200
Subject: [Conferences] Statistics of all Python conferences
Message-ID: <4CCABA57.7000100@python-academy.de>

Hi conference organizers,

The Python conference landscape is steadily growing.
This is my, certainly incomplete, compilation of conferences
and conference-like events:

* 3 international conferences (PyCon US, EuroPython, PyCon Asia-Pacific)
* 12 national conferences (in countries in Europe, South America, Asia
   and Australia)
* 3 regional events (states in the US: AR, OH, TX)
* 3 SciPy conferences (dedicated to Python in science: US, Europe, India))
* 4 Web-specific Python conferences (2x Django, Zope, Plone)
* 2 Conferences with strong Python portion (OSCON, RuPy)

Some of this conferences are around for some time. Others are pretty new.
I think it would be great to have some more numbers about these conferences.
Data like how many times this conference took place, how many people came,
or how many talks were given would make great material for some statistics.

Besides serving our own curiosity, this would make really nice marketing
material. Just imaging all those business consultants showing stylish
graphs in stylish Power Point presentations with growing numbers of Python
interest predicting, by linearly extending this trend, that Python will be
the most used programming language by 2020. ;)

Seriously, we do have some hard numbers here that decision makers love.
Let's gather them.

I started doing this by assembling PyCon US 2010 data. This is the biggest,
most recently finished, probably best documented conference. Despite that most
numbers can be found on its website, it took me some hours.

I would like to do this for _all_ Python conferences. Even though Google can
be a pretty good tool here, there a few obstacles that prevent me from
coming even close to this goal:

1. Not all data is published.
2. Websites from many past conferences are not available any more.
3. I don't even know that the conference took place. Hence don't know what
    to search for.
4. It is just too much work for me if I want to do something else during
    the next few months. And I want and need.

Therefore, I would like to ask everybody who has some information about
Python past conferences to send me information about them.

I think a simple way to do this is to create one ini file per conference.
I attached an example. This is a partially formalized way to assemble
information. The given names or keywords (the ones on the left side of the
equal sign) provide a structure.
At the same time, you may define new names under section MISC. Furthermore,
you may include additional information as free text in comments.

Please make sure the ini file can be parsed. Just use the attached script
to check if the formatting is ok. The script works with Python 2 and 3.

I am well aware that very few files, if any, will be complete filled.
That's not the point. The goal is to collect as much information as possible.
The absolute minimum are the name, the location, and the date of the event.
Next useful would be the number of attendees and the number of talks.
Reasonable estimates are better than no numbers at all. Please indicate
if it is an educated guess.

I will process the data and make all sources and the analysis available
for everybody.

Feel free to suggest improvements on the process. I am open for ideas.

Also, please indicated if you would like your name to appear on the
list of contributers in the acknowledgment.


Mike


# Start sample file
#################################################################
# Sample file for Python conference data.
# This is a simple in-file format that can be parser with ConfigParser:
# http://docs.python.org/library/configparser.html
# The equal sign `=` separates name and value:
# `name=value`
# Sections are all upper case in square brackets.
# `[SECTION]`
# We use the Python comment sign `#` for comments.
# Use `unknown` if no information is available.
# Use `None` if not applicable. If you are not sure about this, use `unknown`.
# Please do NOT delete names (keywords), use `None`.
# You may add more names (keywords) under `[MISC]`.
# Please add the source of your numbers such as a link or contact information
# or something else if possible.
# For corrections and suggestions contact Mike at
# (mmueller (_at_) python-academy (_dot_) de).

[GENERAL]
name=PyCon US
# First day of event.
start=2010-02-17
# Last day of event, i.e. inclusive.
end=2010-02-25
link=http://us.pycon.org/2010/about/
organizer=PSF

[LOCATION]
country=USA
# Put `None` for most other countries without states.
state=GA
city=Atlanta
venue=Hyatt Regency Atlanta

[CONFERENCE]
start=2010-02-19
end=2010-02-21
# Source: https://us.pycon.org/2010/register/default/attendees
# There should be more since not all made there name publicly available.
# The number announced at the conference was 1100.
number-of-attendees=1084
number-of-talks=94
# NOT included in number-of-talks.
number-of-keynotes=8
number-of-tracks=unknown
number-of-parallel-sessions=4
# Just an example for `None`. Note: not `0` but N/A. ;)
number-of-bad-talks=None

[TUTORIALS]
# Please put `None` for all values if there were no tutorials.
start=2010-02-17
end=2010-02-18
# Source: https://us.pycon.org/2010/register/default/charts
# There might be more because people from canceled tutorials
# might have moved to other ones.
number-of-participants=833
# Given not only offered.
number-of-tutorials=28
# Hours per tutorial.
length=3

[SPRINTS]
# Please put `None` if there were no sprints.
start=2010-02-22
end=2010-02-25
# Source: http://us.pycon.org/2010/conference/talks/
number-of-participants=unknown
number-of-sprints=unknown

[POSTERS]
# Please put `None` if there were no posters.
# Poster presented not submitted.
# Source: http://us.pycon.org/2010/conference/posters/accepted/
number-of-posters=17

[MISC]
# Add more information here if you think it is important.
# Make up your own names (keywords).
# Write free text as comments if this is easier.
number-of-open-space-sessions=unknown
number-of-lightning-talks=unknown
# This was the biggest PyCon ever.
# The percentage of women was about 10% this unusually high
# for this kind of conference.
#################################################################
# End sample file.


# start Python script
#################################################################
"""Simple ini file reader.
"""

try:
     # Python 2.x
     import ConfigParser as configparser
except ImportError:
     # Python 3.x
     import configparser
import pprint


def check(file_name):
     """Print the content of the ini file.
     """
     config = configparser.ConfigParser()
     config.read(file_name)
     for section in config.sections():
         print(section)
         pprint.pprint(config.items(section))

if __name__ == '__main__':
     check('data/pycon_us_2010.txt')
#################################################################
# end Python script

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From mmueller at python-academy.de  Fri Oct 29 20:38:04 2010
From: mmueller at python-academy.de (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Mike_M=FCller?=)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 20:38:04 +0200
Subject: [Conferences] Statistics of all Python conferences
In-Reply-To: <4CCABA57.7000100@python-academy.de>
References: <4CCABA57.7000100@python-academy.de>
Message-ID: <4CCB148C.4090701@python-academy.de>

Answering to myself. Top-posting allowed.

Thanks to a suggestion by Carl Karsten, I created a Google
spreadsheet form:

https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dDhvaTF4aE1taEMtY3U2YXhqX21pOWc6MQ

This form has a link to the survey results.

Again, ideas for improvement welcome.

Mike


Am 29.10.2010 14:13, schrieb Mike M?ller:
> Hi conference organizers,
>
> The Python conference landscape is steadily growing.
> This is my, certainly incomplete, compilation of conferences
> and conference-like events:
>
> * 3 international conferences (PyCon US, EuroPython, PyCon Asia-Pacific)
> * 12 national conferences (in countries in Europe, South America, Asia
> and Australia)
> * 3 regional events (states in the US: AR, OH, TX)
> * 3 SciPy conferences (dedicated to Python in science: US, Europe, India))
> * 4 Web-specific Python conferences (2x Django, Zope, Plone)
> * 2 Conferences with strong Python portion (OSCON, RuPy)
>
> Some of this conferences are around for some time. Others are pretty new.
> I think it would be great to have some more numbers about these conferences.
> Data like how many times this conference took place, how many people came,
> or how many talks were given would make great material for some statistics.
>
> Besides serving our own curiosity, this would make really nice marketing
> material. Just imaging all those business consultants showing stylish
> graphs in stylish Power Point presentations with growing numbers of Python
> interest predicting, by linearly extending this trend, that Python will be
> the most used programming language by 2020. ;)
>
> Seriously, we do have some hard numbers here that decision makers love.
> Let's gather them.
>
> I started doing this by assembling PyCon US 2010 data. This is the biggest,
> most recently finished, probably best documented conference. Despite that most
> numbers can be found on its website, it took me some hours.
>
> I would like to do this for _all_ Python conferences. Even though Google can
> be a pretty good tool here, there a few obstacles that prevent me from
> coming even close to this goal:
>
> 1. Not all data is published.
> 2. Websites from many past conferences are not available any more.
> 3. I don't even know that the conference took place. Hence don't know what
> to search for.
> 4. It is just too much work for me if I want to do something else during
> the next few months. And I want and need.
>
> Therefore, I would like to ask everybody who has some information about
> Python past conferences to send me information about them.
>
> I think a simple way to do this is to create one ini file per conference.
> I attached an example. This is a partially formalized way to assemble
> information. The given names or keywords (the ones on the left side of the
> equal sign) provide a structure.
> At the same time, you may define new names under section MISC. Furthermore,
> you may include additional information as free text in comments.
>
> Please make sure the ini file can be parsed. Just use the attached script
> to check if the formatting is ok. The script works with Python 2 and 3.
>
> I am well aware that very few files, if any, will be complete filled.
> That's not the point. The goal is to collect as much information as possible.
> The absolute minimum are the name, the location, and the date of the event.
> Next useful would be the number of attendees and the number of talks.
> Reasonable estimates are better than no numbers at all. Please indicate
> if it is an educated guess.
>
> I will process the data and make all sources and the analysis available
> for everybody.
>
> Feel free to suggest improvements on the process. I am open for ideas.
>
> Also, please indicated if you would like your name to appear on the
> list of contributers in the acknowledgment.
>
>
> Mike
>
>
> # Start sample file
> #################################################################
> # Sample file for Python conference data.
> # This is a simple in-file format that can be parser with ConfigParser:
> # http://docs.python.org/library/configparser.html
> # The equal sign `=` separates name and value:
> # `name=value`
> # Sections are all upper case in square brackets.
> # `[SECTION]`
> # We use the Python comment sign `#` for comments.
> # Use `unknown` if no information is available.
> # Use `None` if not applicable. If you are not sure about this, use `unknown`.
> # Please do NOT delete names (keywords), use `None`.
> # You may add more names (keywords) under `[MISC]`.
> # Please add the source of your numbers such as a link or contact information
> # or something else if possible.
> # For corrections and suggestions contact Mike at
> # (mmueller (_at_) python-academy (_dot_) de).
>
> [GENERAL]
> name=PyCon US
> # First day of event.
> start=2010-02-17
> # Last day of event, i.e. inclusive.
> end=2010-02-25
> link=http://us.pycon.org/2010/about/
> organizer=PSF
>
> [LOCATION]
> country=USA
> # Put `None` for most other countries without states.
> state=GA
> city=Atlanta
> venue=Hyatt Regency Atlanta
>
> [CONFERENCE]
> start=2010-02-19
> end=2010-02-21
> # Source: https://us.pycon.org/2010/register/default/attendees
> # There should be more since not all made there name publicly available.
> # The number announced at the conference was 1100.
> number-of-attendees=1084
> number-of-talks=94
> # NOT included in number-of-talks.
> number-of-keynotes=8
> number-of-tracks=unknown
> number-of-parallel-sessions=4
> # Just an example for `None`. Note: not `0` but N/A. ;)
> number-of-bad-talks=None
>
> [TUTORIALS]
> # Please put `None` for all values if there were no tutorials.
> start=2010-02-17
> end=2010-02-18
> # Source: https://us.pycon.org/2010/register/default/charts
> # There might be more because people from canceled tutorials
> # might have moved to other ones.
> number-of-participants=833
> # Given not only offered.
> number-of-tutorials=28
> # Hours per tutorial.
> length=3
>
> [SPRINTS]
> # Please put `None` if there were no sprints.
> start=2010-02-22
> end=2010-02-25
> # Source: http://us.pycon.org/2010/conference/talks/
> number-of-participants=unknown
> number-of-sprints=unknown
>
> [POSTERS]
> # Please put `None` if there were no posters.
> # Poster presented not submitted.
> # Source: http://us.pycon.org/2010/conference/posters/accepted/
> number-of-posters=17
>
> [MISC]
> # Add more information here if you think it is important.
> # Make up your own names (keywords).
> # Write free text as comments if this is easier.
> number-of-open-space-sessions=unknown
> number-of-lightning-talks=unknown
> # This was the biggest PyCon ever.
> # The percentage of women was about 10% this unusually high
> # for this kind of conference.
> #################################################################
> # End sample file.
>
>
> # start Python script
> #################################################################
> """Simple ini file reader.
> """
>
> try:
> # Python 2.x
> import ConfigParser as configparser
> except ImportError:
> # Python 3.x
> import configparser
> import pprint
>
>
> def check(file_name):
> """Print the content of the ini file.
> """
> config = configparser.ConfigParser()
> config.read(file_name)
> for section in config.sections():
> print(section)
> pprint.pprint(config.items(section))
>
> if __name__ == '__main__':
> check('data/pycon_us_2010.txt')
> #################################################################
> # end Python script
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/conferences
>
> This is an open list with open archives; sensitive or confidential information should not be discussed here.


From vid at svaksha.com  Sun Oct 31 11:45:04 2010
From: vid at svaksha.com (=?UTF-8?B?4KWlIOCkuOCljeCkteCkleCljeCktyDgpaUg?=)
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 16:30:04 +0545
Subject: [Conferences] Statistics of all Python conferences
In-Reply-To: <4CCABA57.7000100@python-academy.de>
References: <4CCABA57.7000100@python-academy.de>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinj+DoQm84Hs9WTpGM99r5FVujoyN0XgsqeSKnL@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 17:58, Mike M?ller <mmueller at python-academy.de> wrote:
> [MISC]
> # Add more information here if you think it is important.
> # Make up your own names (keywords).
> # Write free text as comments if this is easier.
> number-of-open-space-sessions=unknown
> number-of-lightning-talks=unknown
> # This was the biggest PyCon ever.
> # The percentage of women was about 10% this unusually high
> # for this kind of conference.

Honestly, this statistic makes me uncomfortable, for a number of
reasons. I'm involved with a number of women-in-floss projects and the
pressure to stand up and be visible or be counted is immense <-- this
makes it hard on those that dont seek attention because of their
gender. While I am aware that diversity matters and its important to
get that data out there, but, with all due respect, there is the risk
of being reduced to a mere statistic, when your presence is mere
tokenism for being politically correct** and nothing beyond that.

** Recently for inpycon registrations, it was impossible to register
and pay with doattend without doling out a bunch of irrelevant details
(gender, location, etc). IME, pycon does not insist on knowing your
gender and upon raising the issue on the inpycon list, I was told its
something the PSF does. I am not aware if its a PSF mandate but I
would like to know if it is.


-- 
Regards,
vid ? http://svaksha.com

From mmueller at python-academy.de  Sun Oct 31 12:45:51 2010
From: mmueller at python-academy.de (=?UTF-8?B?TWlrZSBNw7xsbGVy?=)
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 12:45:51 +0100
Subject: [Conferences] Statistics of all Python conferences
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinj+DoQm84Hs9WTpGM99r5FVujoyN0XgsqeSKnL@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4CCABA57.7000100@python-academy.de>
	<AANLkTinj+DoQm84Hs9WTpGM99r5FVujoyN0XgsqeSKnL@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4CCD56EF.2060107@python-academy.de>

Am 31.10.2010 11:45, schrieb ? ?????? ? :
>> # This was the biggest PyCon ever.
>> # The percentage of women was about 10% this unusually high
>> # for this kind of conference.
>
> Honestly, this statistic makes me uncomfortable, for a number of
> reasons. I'm involved with a number of women-in-floss projects and the
> pressure to stand up and be visible or be counted is immense<-- this
> makes it hard on those that dont seek attention because of their
> gender. While I am aware that diversity matters and its important to
> get that data out there, but, with all due respect, there is the risk
> of being reduced to a mere statistic, when your presence is mere
> tokenism for being politically correct** and nothing beyond that.

The 10% was public announced at the conference and can probably be seen
in the corresponding video. If I remember right on Feb. 20th by the
conference chair Van Lindberg. So it is nothing new in any way.
You can find this information at different places, for example here:

http://www.thebitsource.com/tech-conferences/pycon-2010-event-report/

The statistics is in no way target towards getting gender specific data.
The 10% above are just a comment and serve as an example if there
was something noteworthy not captured in the numbers.

This is the form for the survey. There is nothing gender specific
in there:

https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dDhvaTF4aE1taEMtY3U2YXhqX21pOWc6MQ 


It is just about counting how many attended.

Please let me know if you have any suggestions to improve the form.

Mike

From vid at svaksha.com  Sun Oct 31 13:37:29 2010
From: vid at svaksha.com (=?UTF-8?B?4KWlIOCkuOCljeCkteCkleCljeCktyDgpaUg?=)
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 18:22:29 +0545
Subject: [Conferences] Statistics of all Python conferences
In-Reply-To: <4CCD56EF.2060107@python-academy.de>
References: <4CCABA57.7000100@python-academy.de>
	<AANLkTinj+DoQm84Hs9WTpGM99r5FVujoyN0XgsqeSKnL@mail.gmail.com>
	<4CCD56EF.2060107@python-academy.de>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinhUeZxmL7Ni1aVYhzOHsmjeUTpx-p=JJMp_TUK@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 17:30, Mike M?ller <mmueller at python-academy.de> wrote:
>
> The 10% was public announced at the conference and can probably be seen
> in the corresponding video. If I remember right on Feb. 20th by the

True, I was there listening to Van. However, my earlier query was if
its a mandatory to publish gender-based stats for pycons around the
world and whether the PSF requires this data be published?

> This is the form for the survey. There is nothing gender specific
> in there:
>
> https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dDhvaTF4aE1taEMtY3U2YXhqX21pOWc6MQ
>
> It is just about counting how many attended.

Looks good and i'm happy to see its not mandatory to collect/publish stats.

Thanks
-- 
Regards,
vid ? http://svaksha.com

From lac at openend.se  Sun Oct 31 19:30:37 2010
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 19:30:37 +0100
Subject: [Conferences] Statistics of all Python conferences
In-Reply-To: Message from =?UTF-8?B?4KWlIOCkuOCljeCkteCkleCljeCktyDgpaUg?=
	<vid@svaksha.com> of "Sun, 31 Oct 2010 18:22:29 +0545."
	<AANLkTinhUeZxmL7Ni1aVYhzOHsmjeUTpx-p=JJMp_TUK@mail.gmail.com> 
References: <4CCABA57.7000100@python-academy.de>
	<AANLkTinj+DoQm84Hs9WTpGM99r5FVujoyN0XgsqeSKnL@mail.gmail.com>
	<4CCD56EF.2060107@python-academy.de>
	<AANLkTinhUeZxmL7Ni1aVYhzOHsmjeUTpx-p=JJMp_TUK@mail.gmail.com> 
Message-ID: <201010311830.o9VIUbHG012547@theraft.openend.se>

The PSF has never asked EuroPython to keep track of such statistics.

Laura