[core-workflow] We will be moving to GitHub

[R. David Murray]

On Fri, 01 Jan 2016 20:25:11 +0000, Stefan Krah <skrah.temporarily at gmail.com> wrote:
> Brett Cannon <brett at ...> writes:
> > I don't think this will be a shock to anyone who has followed the
> discussion on this list. The decision is essentially based on:
> 
> We must have been reading different discussions: On *this* list more
> people were in favor of GitLab! Except for Guido, Donald and Senthil
> (on python-committers) no one has even bothered to post an explicit
> +1 for GitHub.
> 
> It's very disappointing that GitHub proponents apparently felt the
> need to contact you privately instead of stating their opinions in
> the open.

The impression I got here was Barry advocating GitLab (of course), and
you arguing against GitHub (but not, particularly, in favor of GitLab).
Everything else was down at the noise level :)

Me, I don't care one way or the other, as long as we aren't locking
ourselves in to either.

Now, the fact that people felt it better to contact Brett privately to
advocate for GitHub is indeed interesting, and yes, disappointing.  The
interesting question is, why is that?  Perhaps it is what was alluded to
earlier, that favoring the "commercial alternative" is seen as "bad" in
terms of what we might label as "virtue signalling"?  Which would be
weird, because GitLab isn't non-commercial.  So maybe there's some other
reason (because GitHub is the big gorilla and people think it is
"better" to favor the underdog?), but I wonder if it still comes down to
virtue signalling (or, rather, not wanting to signal non-virtue, in this
case).

So I agree with you, it would be great if people would openly speak
their minds, as Guido did :)

On the other hand, it might just be a matter of the "usenet nod", and
not wanting to "clutter up the list" with a "me too".  You did get some
pushback against your arguments, to which people may have been nodding.

--David